I Maced My Dad...Can Our Relationship Be Repaired? | KARAMO

[@carolynwhite9975]

So this father has protected this son from bullies, stood by him, accepted him. And just because he is late with a key, no matter the time frame, there was no reason to mace your father who has been there for you for just being locked out the house. This father does not reject his son, the son feels entitled and justified by his disrespectful behavior. Karamo missed on this one. I'm not homophobic but Karamo sided with the son because common path.

[@superkalafragilistic8289]

Exactly!!

[@jailahthomas2104]

He never said the son was right , the son was definitely wrong but the dad was too because of HIS reaction.He asked the Dad to apologize FIRST.He told the Dad multiple times that he was going to address what his son did .But his pride was too big to even be patient and trust the process.He cared more about his ego than he did about his relationship with his son , period.

[@brendaroath]

So true!

[@chloew8374]

@@jailahthomas2104facts

[@lucio24753]

​@@jailahthomas2104 I understand what Karamo was trying to do but I also understand the dad's ego in this situation. Bad behaviour shouldn't be reinforced. Actions have consequences and it's time children though "protected" needs accountability. Since respect is a two way thing why didn't the initial offender apologize first? For me, I side with the dad on this one, otherwise the child would feel entitled to just walk on his father. Sometimes we need to understand how difficult it is being a father. Then watch your lil child whose grown trying to disrespect you. It's the first hurt I have seen firsthand in many parent. It hurts when your adorable talk back at you, just as a junior worker talk back at his boss.

[@alfredapierce9731]

You have to give respect to get it back. Calling him the f word is disrespectful but also calling a grown black man "boy" is disrespectful as well. Son does more talking than listening.

[@ramonahamm6292]

They both talk more than they listen.. that is his child .. they are they same

[@304justaking]

Facts

[@alfredapierce9731]

@@ramonahamm6292 True.

[@NashvilleBraids]

They are more alike than they realize

[@serp1806]

This is where you are wrong my dear, know grown up child to his or her parents but their parents still going to call him boy or my girl, this father wasn’t disrespectful to call his son boy but his son is the one who disrespected father, if even you reach 89 years old and your father still alive he will call you my boy while you are 89 years old. let’s me tell you the history of a young man who got the girl pregnant in the age of 14 year old and they begin to grow up together like brothers, and also they use to walk together and a lot of people do know them that they are father and son, and one day went they are sitting down in the hotel to eat than father begin to call son go and bring me my wallet in the car, and a lot of people in the hotel hear him calling him son they all wonder and ask him why do you call him son and the son turn himself around and tell them he is my father, and all the people say thank God your father is the most caring parents because we thought you were twins but never knew you were father and son, you see the son is disrespectful to the father no grown up child to the one of his or her parents let you delete that word.

[@rubyjaez]

Karamo keeps saying he was rejected but he said his father supports him. The fact is he was drunk, snapped at his Dad, and assaulted him. His father responded with insults and now the son is playing the victim. He was the wrong one NOT the Father.

[@jaimia8626]

Karamo heard that the father called him the F word and he blanked out to what really happened. The son said he sprayed his father because the father called him the F word. When the father came out he said "No... I called him the F word after he sprayed me in the face and slammed and locked the door." Not one time did the son say that wasn't true. Remember the son also said he was very drunk. Normally Karamo does a great job bring families together but this time he completely failed.

[@AnniPandaRawr]

no sorry i disagree he said “i don’t care if he said that before or after you maced him that’s not important right now.” it’s the internalized homophobia the father has to weaponize it against his son. the son should not have maced his father but still

[@shakira9468]

They think gays could do anything, they actually teach them to disrespect their parents, expecially when they don't accept their lifestyle

[@AnniPandaRawr]

@@shakira9468 if i’m understanding u correctly u dumb for that one bae but if i misunderstood i apologize

[@shakira9468]

@@AnniPandaRawr but still what?

[@shakira9468]

@niki how I'm dumb? You trying to justify the man for making his father,your dumb

[@gracevictorious3922]

Dad just gave us all a master class in setting boundaries. His son is violent and he is no longer safe around him

[@idaruth6293]

Bondarious YES

[@michellemguni8298]

He stood on business

[@antonioabrams7988]

As a gay man and a father to an adult son, I would never tolerate my son speaking to me the way this young man did. The father did not reject him......HE SET HIS BOUNDARY.

[@noram2957]

Well said .. God Bless u

[@itzyagirlkeekee8831]

So you telling me you missed the part where he called him the F-word twice? Like Bffr

[@ryleighhale3819]

hopefully he puts you in a nursing home and doesn’t look back. it’s a new generation grandpa… keep up or get left behind. we will not tolerate disrespect from ANYONE family or not

[@aleathashumblelife5103]

Agreed

[@Thundrstxrm]

@@ryleighhale3819right 👏🏽

[@michelleb3119]

Being gay doesn't give you the right to be DISRESPECTFUL. Karamo missed the mark.

[@elleenmusakwa72]

True!!! He was not hearing the Father’s side

[@princesstaytum]

Tbh. If u disrespect me ima disrespect you back point blank period idgaf who u is 💀

[@williamglennbean]

RIGHT!!!!!!!

[@kaybee7680]

Yup.

[@Theoccasionalcreator]

@@elleenmusakwa72 to be fair. The father wasn't allowing Karamo to do his job. He is finding ways to hear the both of them to not play the blame game. He would get to him next... As he said in the show, that he isn't Invalidating what he went through with being maced either and he will get to him. Remember, it was his son that wanted to repair the relationship. The father seems to not want to and would rather lose his son over one bad moment. They both fucked up and clearly they both act the same. But only one wanted to try to fix it. He has experience with this. Getting to the root of the problem is his job. And why the father resorted to calling him a f word, instead of something else.

[@straightoutofstrat8722]

Also, it was clear that the host "KARAMO, was also thinking about his own experience which is a lack of professionalism. Extremely glad his father did not bow to the host or the son. We bring our children up to respect our period, I will never accept my children disrespecting me, we have worked our hardest to bring them up to where they are today. So no way.

[@DrHEMaepaMaepa-er6by]

True that

[@OceanBabiedollBias]

He literally disrespected his dad first by cussing him out for being late. Hes your father NOT your friend, period. Of course dad was wrong for calling him that but Teon was literally on 10 cuse he was drunk and pissed off 🤦🏽‍♀️he was even disrespectful on the show!

[@ms.mariahimvu4596]

okay but its HS house not HIS FATHER

[@zoespeaks7404]

Respect is earned girl. You don’t get to say a slur to your son and then expect respect.

[@omgimover4075]

I guess times have changed because if I had maced my dad back in the day, I would be 6 feet under.

[@cynthiasolomon6383]

OK.Peace

[@shereelewis2251]

Thank you I said the same thing. These kids & young adults they don't understand ish. Back in the day parents didn't tolerate 🤔no form of back talk or disrespect, but now they curse & fight with their parents! I'm 45 and I keep my mouth shut if I don't agree with something or I distance myself until we are on good terms. No need to be disrespectful period!

[@rororidley5829]

Slow singin

[@ammiemcgee7803]

💯💯💯💯

[@ammiemcgee7803]

This Could Have Never Happened Back In My Days

[@sharongeorge2338]

The father is what you call it old school, never disrespect your parents. His father loves him but he's not going to let him talk any way he want to.

[@RoTheSoulDiamond]

I’m with the Dad on this one. We can’t talk about anything until we address the disrespect with his dad.

[@KJserious]

It feels like Karamo is trying to make Teon feel like he was rejected but i don’t think that was really the case

[@shakira9468]

All gays feel that way,they love to play victim

[@LifeWithJulietChilaka]

I agree

[@chelybeann]

Dad said Son was spoiled and Dad was supportive. I agree, I don’t think he felt much rejection, even he said so.

[@feliciaedmond2776]

When Karamo saw that it wasn’t working to get the dad to acknowledge the son’s feelings, he could have let the dad speak and be heard first. Maybe it would have calmed the dad down. The dad wanted to be heard. And then the dad may have heard the son.

[@Boldblackbutterfly]

That’s a wonderful idea!!

[@ericaskinner4000]

Totally agree 💯💯

[@ramonahamm6292]

If you can’t be still to listen to how someone else feels you really can’t learn .. if the dad can only value what’s said after he is heard it’s the same bullying tactic . There’s a process in therapy and he didn’t want to go Thru the pain points , so he truly can’t learn.

[@feliciaedmond2776]

@@ramonahamm6292 I can definitely see your perspective especially about bullying behavior. Adding a different perspective because sometimes In counseling you have to try a different approach if something isn’t working. And then the dad may have been able to hear. I see your perspective as well.

[@unpleasedwitch2235]

he didn't give a damn about his son, only himself. There's a reason his other kids don't talk to him

[@brittanyhunter3331]

Parents aren’t always right, and just because you’re a parent, does not mean that you are entitled to unrestricted respect

[@natnaelgirmay8223]

I think parents should be respected at all time regardless don't you think soo

[@unpleasedwitch2235]

@@natnaelgirmay8223 no

[@jrose1999]

@@natnaelgirmay8223 isn’t respect earned not given. Dont you think so

[@lovelybrowngeek8725]

Parents deserve respect at all time period…..but as a adult you can say what you have to say without disrespect. My dad use to always tell me you are grown and you can say what you have to say without being disrespectful.

[@AlexusMusic]

@@lovelybrowngeek8725 NO ! If you’re being disrespectful you do NOT deserve respect AT ALL regardless of your “Title”.

[@Therbert3302]

His father didn’t reject him, he admitted that on the show so he can’t play victim with his father

[@MsLuverofmusic57]

To me, the son was sounding a little entitled, spoiled. He has issues if he seriously got that upset about someone being "late" bringing some dang keys to him. I understood the Dad feeling the way he did...if my kids ever did something so drastic as macing me, I'd definitely be feeling some type of way🤷🏽‍♀️ I hope they both work it out though.

[@lucio24753]

This thing is simple. People just want to see things from child's perspective so bad they are ignoring parents have emotions too.

[@Moyegirl]

I totally agree with the father.. When your child disrespects you it puts you in an whole different head space!! Maybe if the son had apologized for his actions this situation could have been resolved!!!! When you have the nerve to Disrespect your parents you deserve to be dealt with !!PERIOD!!!

[@elleenmusakwa72]

Amen l felt the same way if He talked to him nicely like Dad l did. Not like this l bet they would not hv reached this far buh mace him ?? Now cmon l ain’t gonna lie a parent who supports u when no one does n u treat em that way l can understand him

[@hmmuhh123]

Exactly 💯

[@neeta_jenks]

I agree! Not once did the son DENY it when the father said he called him the F word AFTER he maced him! I don’t care who you are, you mace me imma call you any and everything I can think of! Once again this show is one sided because Karamo is LGBT so he automatically are in their side. Karamo should have clarified again while the dad was on stage when the F bomb was dropped. It is key to the whole situation. So Karamo didn’t ask cause he was so stuck on siding with the son🤦🏾‍♀️

[@onyedikaemmanuelokpala6889]

As much as I did not support his dad's action and expected him to show more maturity and acknowledge that he wants the relationship to be repaired, his son should take the greater part of the blame. On no occasion should you ever mace your dad. That is purely violent conduct, and I did not see him apologising for that action for once, and he showed no remorse either. If he had apologised for macing his dad, his dad would have been calmer. Also, I think Mr Karamo started with the wrong approach because the dad felt that he was on the side of his son; he could see the anger in his dad because of the fact that the son maced him; I felt the dad was still in shock that his son could mace him, so Karamo should have asked the son to apologise for that action first before any other intervention. I know he is a professional, but sometimes you have to leave what is in the book, feel the tension in the room, and find a practical strategy to resolve the issue. The dad refused to acknowledge that he wanted to repair the relationship because he felt Karamo was not appreciating his point of view, and his son showed no remorse for his actions.

[@zaybae3130]

I just have to know why this is like totally okay with you or sounds like a great way to treat a said persons own child? 😭

[@darjohn9550]

I absolutely agree with the dad. His son was spoiled as a child and he is a spioled grown man. You don't mace your dad because he is late with the key to your apartment. Or because you get called the F word. That man did not lay one hand on him to have to defend himself in that way. He is a self righteous spoiled brat drama queen. Disgusting that anyone would agree with him. Good for his dad for standing his ground!

[@NuView2012]

Karamo was bias on this one, that boy definitely maced him first , he already said he was lit…Karamo took too long to acknowledge the disrespect from the son and was too focused on the F word. The boy biggest problem was waiting outside for his dad, which is a major inconvenience and I would pissed too but it doesn’t warrant physically harming your parent.

[@shannongraham5786]

True, good thing it was mace and not a gun.

[@NuView2012]

@@shannongraham5786 EXACTLY, I wonder what the conversation would have been then!

[@gibsontaxes3344]

Karamo is not really trying to place blame. He wants to get to repairing the relationship. Dad is not ready.

[@jahdestamuzik9145]

Love this comment, so true!

[@Miss_Understood00]

Karamo has been very biased lately actually 😕

[@J_The_Word]

I don’t like how Teon called his dad “boy” so many times and no one addressed it.

[@williamglennbean]

Right!!!!!

[@shereelewis2251]

I didn't like that!

[@itzyagirlkeekee8831]

I don't like how the father thought that that was the words he needed to use on that night, and when the son spoke up about it the father acted like he didn't care and nobody addressed it.

[@J_The_Word]

@@itzyagirlkeekee8831 Karamo addressed that several times.

[@itzyagirlkeekee8831]

@@J_The_Word He tried to. But the Dad just kept talking over him, and being rude.

[@Alterego_lotus]

Did y’all forget that was the SON’S house. Dad was couch surfing. And none of kids talk to him. He almost got an apology but he wanted to be stubborn.

[@samanthachristian8945]

I think if the son would have acknowledged he was wrong for maceing and fighting him first, it would’ve gotten a lot farther

[@amondavisify]

Look how disrespectful the son was in the show by saying boy to his dad a couple times

[@richardcedrictoupane5715]

I'm still waiting for Karamo to call his guest accountability, this one boy was wrong but Karamo looked away and focused on the wrong the father did. It goes both way like they sayed themselves. The boy could have just said to his father calmly that it was not cool to make him wait but he started to fight and maced him. The father reacted. The son should have apologized that was the only way it could have gotten the father to apologize since the boy started it. I totally understand him, if you get to me first and I get back at you, you apologize first or we split.

[@bighead7317]

Once they get like him he don't care

[@hooddreamztv]

I like this show and I’m a faithful watcher. I also am a gay BLACK male, and this is the only time that I completely disagree with Karamo. I would never mace my father just because he was late with my keys, and the fact that Karamo did not tell the young man at all that he was wrong It’s just baffling to me. Once he maced his dad all bets are off. Everything was fair game and his dad can say whatever he wants to say because he was maced for the pettiest reason. This has me raising my eyebrow to karamo. It was almost like gaslighting. I really dislike this episode.

[@lesley5380]

Mace just wow, imagine if he had a gun.

[@thatbemefool]

I agree. Karamo gets an F-. He heard the F bomb and he thought he was going to nail the Father to the wall. When the Father stood on his “NO,” it messed up Karamo’s script 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MzGr33nEy3z]

Nah, I think it’s reactive abuse. The son appears to be out of pocket because he’s loud and hurt. The father needed a place to stay, the son wanted the love of his father. If the father felt wronged, he would have been hurt and confused by his sons actions. He was just mad he got maced and couldn’t beat his ass like he wanted to.

[@kukuakukua]

@hooddreamztv9374 thank you. I like this show it but it amazes me how Koramo is always siding with disrespectful children. Our parents are not always right but they will always be our parents first. No justification to disrespecting your parents. You talk to your parents the way some of these kids do, they wouldn't have lips anymore from where I come from

[@starnwam6864]

Kamoro most times is bais

[@dstevenson1991]

They look and act like brothers instead of father/son

[@ramonahamm6292]

They are both wrong in this situation and both head strong in defending their points of view . I can’t imagine ever masing my dad .. even if I was upset by what he said I’d walk away and let him know he can’t be in my life and continue to disrespect me. It seems they have a pattern Of speaking out of anger . The dad was wrong for not respecting his sons boundaries in his home .. and he was out of bounds for calling his son out his name . Someone asks you to leave their house, you leave. They are both wrong. The dad is too stubborn to listen. He’s set in that old school mind set thta I’m your parent .. respect me . But he broke that respect when he called his son out his name and broke his door. He grown, dad has to respect boundaries too. They are both very similar in attitudes

[@lsmckethan]

Thanks.. I’m saying the same thing

[@elleenmusakwa72]

I might be wrong but l feel like the son started it because his Father was 20 sumn mins late does not give him the right to mace his Dad like cmon and out of anger his Dad reacted that way callin his son those words was not nice but l get him we all humans l can’t control how lm feelin if my son maces me that’s disrespectful to the last cz mind you He is. Not his friend it’s his Father and by the way he was explaining he is the real one who stuck on his corner when erybody rejected him so a lil respect would hv been nice regardless him living in his son’s house

[@Kaizure_]

@@elleenmusakwa72 The thing is, Karamo NEVER validated that behaviour. The dad was too arrogant to ever get to that point where they could look into that because he refused to acknowledge how his actions also hurt his son. That is where the progression and growth stops because despite supposedly not being homophobic, he will never respect his son as an adult because he will always think he is owed respect.

[@elleenmusakwa72]

@@Kaizure_ l totally get you l think we all heard how this story went down he maced his father first and that led to the father reacting that way so here already the first person to be heard was supposed to be the Dad and lm pretty sure we all heard him say He loves his son but all he was Askin for was Respect and Karamo failed to hear him out on that part cz he is sayin he was never gonna react that way if his son had simply told him Yoo lm upset that u took this long with my key instead he resonated to Bein aggressive and as a parent lm pretty sure that would make u feel disrespected and mad as hell… if they had acknowledged that they both wud hv apologised to each other and moved on cz it’s not okay to call someone an F word buh l get him cz he was mad and he even told Karamo that if the son gives him the Respect he deserves (clearly they both agreed the Dad supported him when everyone rejected him so he deserves a lil respect for that)he was willing to solve the relationship buh if not then No and good for him… respect goes both ways right

[@syniahare8630]

​@@elleenmusakwa72 I'm kinda confused on who did what first because at one point it was stated that the son maced his dad because he called him the f word but then it said the dad called him the f word because he mased him, they also stated that the f word was said twice so what's really true

[@kashmeredreamss1689]

Karamo has a bias to the gay community. This son took no responsibility for his actions and is bluntly okay with the level of disrespect he continues to show to his father being 10 mins late providing a key is no way acceptable to mase and curse out his father just as he was hurt with the choice words his father said to him his father would be just as hurt heaing that from his son...... like I tell my kids your actions can carry consequences and you have no control over the reactions you may receive

[@smilezzelims5129]

A.) Maybe that's because Karamo is gay and he understands how it is to be a young, gay, black man? B.) 40min C.) Are you forgetting when he both admitted to and defended calling his *son*, one of his *children*, a slur?

[@lexielexie8819]

@@smilezzelims5129 D) shut up they’re entitled to their opinion

[@smilezzelims5129]

@@lexielexie8819 What opinion allows you to justify disrespecting a person based on their identity? What opinion allows you to call your children a slur?

[@d820m]

just because he's gay doesn't give him authority over his father, and as a father he has every right to call him whatever he wants

[@smilezzelims5129]

@@d820m Wrong, you don't have a right to disrespect your child on the basis of them being your child. Your child is a human, not your pet dog or goldfish. They deserve respect. If you can't understand that, don't have kids.

[@michaelhenderson9411]

He disrespected his dad first because he was drunk . Late or not you don’t disrespect your parents that’s where it started. The father was wrong for calling him a *f*ttt slur. But overall you can see the son is an over the top handful with anger issues when he called his daddy boy. I wish my son would call me boy . The father accepted his sexuality along time ago. He’s not homephobic because if he was he wouldn’t claim him come around him or wouldn’t want nothing to do with him. The son was wrong from the jump

[@BeyEstabanEL]

It would have been round two

[@justblessed9358]

Period!

[@thatbemefool]

THANK YOU. People heard the “F” word and their brains shut off after it. The son was wrong and his Daddy stood on his decision. It was beautiful to see….especially today!

[@ThatOneWeirdGirl473]

how can you say he isnt homophobic and he “ accepted it “ but then he turns around and calls his son a slur ?

[@williamglennbean]

Right!!!!!

[@kimali7477]

You can’t disrespect your parents like this. I’m so tired of these young people.

[@carltoncoleman454]

Respect for parents, elders, and authorities is dying in this generation. Everyone seems to want to challenge the whole paradigm of respecting these categories of people. In any case, this is a sad state of affairs. The son has no respect for his father. However, the father doesn't know how to be a father and their relationship seems more like brothers or friends.

[@mactrek2]

As a parent I don't expect my children to respect me just because I gave birth to them. I earn their respect by giving them respect. I chose to be their parent, they didn't chose to be my children, therefore the onus is on me to make sure they respect me.

[@GoddessAlkebulan]

@@mactrek2 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@chelleave]

@MAC B Thank you! The younger generation is waking up to not just blindly giving respect. The older generation is stuck in that and don't understand their faults and we're just supposed to shutup and listen.

[@RealTalk532]

@@chelleave I agree but how is that working for our younger generation though?. everyone needs to respect each other, respect is not given its earned and someone got to be mature enough to show respect first.

[@ceesah71]

Karamo should be ashamed of himself. If he would do that to his father there is nothing else he won't do.

[@raindrops4284]

He has a disrespectful tone in the way he talks to his father.

[@justblessed9358]

Exactly! I absolutely hate how Karamo handled the situation

[@Myshelleallen]

He is right though you can’t be cursing your dad out like that. He doesn’t deserve to be called the F word but still dad doesn’t deserve to be cursed out. He was late with your keys so you mase your dad ?? He’s dad is Old school I don’t feel the dad rejected him!

[@driareigns4147]

Karamo always takes the side of the person who calls the show no matter how wrong they are. The son was wrong on so many levels. We get angry and say things we don't mean but to mace your father for being late is unacceptable.

[@williamglennbean]

Right!!!!!

[@kishonsmith4321]

I don’t agree he took the guy side the dad is stubborn and he didn’t have to reject his kid that’s the worse feeling ever not having your parents

[@quetheking9322]

That’s not true at all

[@kamp216]

I don’t think he took the son’s side. The father didn’t allow him to get to his side. The father said his son has another year until he will be bothered. No one knows how much time they have here, the father was too stubborn to listen. And no the son shouldn’thave maced his Dad or have the attitude he had, but the son was atleast trying to heal their relationship

[@shameketeaque]

His son is rude and nasty

[@williamglennbean]

Karamo you are the host of the show- how do you loose control and get into an argument with your guest!!

[@neverfeltlikethis2419]

The father speaking fact...."where I grew up in...was taught to respect"!!!

[@Ygsossa]

It doesnt matter where and when somebody grew up, old heads gotta understand that 😂😂 there was def disrespectful kids back then it doesnt matter the era

[@neverfeltlikethis2419]

Without respect you ain't going nowhere

[@siyanwilliams7644]

@@neverfeltlikethis2419 that’s what wrong with y’all old heads now . Y’all think y’all could do and say what y’all want to us because y’all our parents etc but still want respect . Respect is earned not giving and that’s what y’all failed to realize . Because y’all the parent y’all think it’s okay to say and do whatever y’all want to us . And not us expect to do nun back y’all got the wrong generation fucked up !

[@ShayMiW]

When we grew up we were also conditioned to put up with insane amounts of disrespect as well. I personally would never fight my parent or anything like that but you can't talk to or treat people any way you feel because you feel you have some type of authority over them

[@kukuakukua]

Am i missing something? Koramo, with all due respect, you are wrong on this one. This kid disrespected his father by macing him and all you care about is his retaliation? Which is actually a reaction to the son's action? When did it become ok for children to disrespect their parents? You can start off by letting that boy apologize to his father before asking his father to take accountability

[@ladyearthb1249]

Karamo did this on another episode with a mom and daughter. The daughter was hella disrespectful to her mom and Karamo didn't address that at all, I was upset with him about that.

[@cindyreed1922]

He totally wrong...Teon & r most ppl who live there lives like him r over dramatic & want attention & pretend tht evry1 is out 2 get them...grow up n b a man.

[@kukuakukua]

@cindyreed1922 I remember that episode, he is always taking side of disrespectful, rude and entitled kids by capitalizing on so called children trauma. Go to Africa and come and tell me about children trauma. We still respect our parents and grown-ups. You talk to your parents that way, you wouldn't have lips to talk back the next day, let alone mace your father, then expect an apology. This is how this generation of little monsters are created.

[@someguy7874]

Wouldn't be the first time Karamo is wrong, have you seen the pink sauce episode? It was so wrong, he deleted it from the sheer backlash.

[@kukuakukua]

@someguy7874 I never watched that episode, but I keep reading comments referring to a lot. I think the brother needs to take a seat back and analyze some of these episodes. He will then know he is projecting a lot of his own opinion/experience vs. professional advice. With that correction, this will be a phenomenal show

[@neeta_jenks]

I’m with the dad on this one! I can only imagine the things the son was saying to his father that led up to the fight😏 remember he was mad cause he waited 45 mins to get in his own place. Besides that , the nerve of their son to throw his dad out at 3 am because his dad was late then MACE HIM ! Yes son imma call you things far worse than the F word after you throw me out AND mace me🤷🏽‍♀️. Karamo can’t see clearly on this one cause he is LGBT and he’s so quick to educate on that matter, but what about education in respect in our parents? The father said he has been disrespectful for years so the son couldn’t wait to have his “own” so he can dish out the same disrespect he’s been given from others .

[@sconiersclan]

My son tried to fight me when he was 17 and laid him down on the floor by his throat. I was so angry with him that I left my house with him and his mother for 5 days because if I saw him, I was really going to hurt him. I stayed with my brother because my son had school and other activities that I didn't want to disrupt. I thought about all the sacrifices I made to give him the best life, clothes and good education and this spoiled brat wanted to show his behind! I went back home after the 5 days and he apologized and cried. I forgave him but I told him if he ever did anything like that again to me as his father, I was going to prison. Today we are great and he's in school about to graduate from college.

[@munafaisal6775]

ko

[@khozamasechaba]

Not you being proud about being violent with your child. And you wonder where he learned how to fight.

[@elleenmusakwa72]

@@khozamasechabayou actually did not understand this guy… him leaving the son for 5days shows how good of a father he is cz he knew he was not gonna control his emotions stop putting violence n discipline in the same bracket 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@elleenmusakwa72]

You doing a good Job as a Parent 🙌🏾

[@khozamasechaba]

@@elleenmusakwa72 No, he taught his son to be violent, and now the child copied that behavior on him. He has anger issues that would be a danger to everyone around him.

[@Therbert3302]

Smh the son is dead wrong, the father said he respected his son up until he maced him , how can you do that because someone is late and to your own father. That is bratt-ish behavior if you ask me. Karamo couldn’t tell the son that he is wrong smh. Let’s be real.

[@thatbemefool]

No is not an option? His Daddy said NO and stood on it. It threw Karamo off of his script. I respect the Father’s decision. That young man has no self control. He better find himself quick fast and in a hurry!

[@OnajesMedulla]

The father used a slur and destroyed property. Was that self control? 🤔

[@sbongisenindwandwe]

Karamo never asked the son to apologise to his father

[@osunlade-daphne2598]

He was building up to that, but the father wouldn’t let Karamo get the son to be vulnerable enough to admit that he was wrong for macing his dad.

[@BoringDad1272]

If in life waiting 20 minutes for your dad is too much, then you are in trouble!

[@eyabrock]

He shouldn’t have disrespected his father.

[@wandumazgabu7252]

Right

[@richardgentry6996]

💯 Agree. PERIOD.

[@niyaaa1531]

His father had him standing outside 3am at night waiting for HIS FATHER to open the door. So you telling me if that happened to u u would just be calm?

[@eyabrock]

@@niyaaa1531 who wouldn’t be upset. But I wouldn’t cuss my parents out or mace them. You can be upset and still respectful to your parent.

[@camdahottie1]

Ya'll are so one-dimensional, damn. Imagine if it was a mixed race child and their white father called them a nigger. I swear black folks will excuse everything in the name of "respecting elders". Everyone was young once and if lucky, everyone will be an elder one day. Age has nothing to do with it. There are several context clues that the father is a loser and terrible father. First, his attitude. (did you even watch the episode?) Second, the fact that his other kids do not speak to him. Third, the fact that he wants brownie points for doing what a father SHOULD do. I'm sick of parents thinking they deserve respect for the bare minimum. Notice how he put the focus on what HE went through when talking about his friends talking shit about his child. No, you're an adult, you're supposed to DEFEND your child and let them ignorant ass friends blow away in the wind. He didn't even mention what his own son must have been feeling to have grown ass men chime in about him.

[@impactfully5714]

Damn! That was hard to watch. I wish them both healing.

[@artishdesign]

People are saying Karamo was wrong, but he told him at the end "You gotta find a better way than anger". I am pretty sure he would have acknowledged the son's angry reaction about the father being late and his disrespect, if the session wasn't cut short - which is why he kept telling the dad that he'd get to his hurt next. Many parents do not want to listen for real, they think they can say/do anything and their child still have to give them respect, and this was one. If he'd worked through the process I am almost sure he would have gotten the apology that he obviously needed.

[@osunlade-daphne2598]

💯 EXACTLY

[@trevemusic5778]

I’m with the dad. And I have a weird relationship with mine also, but Karamo put too much the parent the kid was the one playing victim. Karamo deserved what he got from the Dad.

[@fanniemoore8079]

Old school parents do not tolerate the disrespectful behavior. You can be right, or whatever-but you absolutely cannot disrespect me. It puts me in another space.

[@heatherjefferson8687]

If something that came out my womb mace me……. Baby he would’ve wished he hadn’t!!! This is definitely a time I disagree with karamo. The son was popping off from the moment he asked for the key. And let’s not forget about the alcohol 😒

[@tamikacasey]

I don't give a damn what the Hell ya Parents or Parent might call you!!!! You do NOT have the right to put ya hands on ur Parents or mace them!! Like WTF!! This world is really twisted!!! Well now he done messed up with the only one that did have his back. One day he is gonna wish that he wouldn't have done that to his Dad!! He is gonna need him and he won't be able to call on him for help. SMDH 😐

[@ThatOneWeirdGirl473]

idk what type of world you living in , but if somebody on the street disrespected you , YOU wouldnt go for that. so why accept the same behavior from somebody who u love & especially somebody who is a figure in ur life ? bye .

[@williamglennbean]

Right!!!!!!

[@avrildefour6793]

@@ThatOneWeirdGirl473 what kind of world do YOU live in where it's ok curse at & mace ur parent because they are 40mins late with some damn keys!? Be mad all want u want that u got home n he wasn't there but to fix ur mouth to curse ur parent n then mace them but then be up in ur feelings because he called u the f word. Y'all really living in a f**ked up world.

[@kaybee7680]

The son was upset that his dad wasn’t there so he was definitely being disrespectful from the moment his dad showed up

[@janelleimani945]

I actually seen this in person. This was so hard to watch because they really did not come to a resolution. They are the same.. Loved how Karamo tried to help. He was so patient.

[@carltoncoleman454]

How was it being in the audience, particularly in Maury's old studio area?

[@janelleimani945]

@@carltoncoleman454 It was a great experience. They play games with the crowd before and during the show (in between takes) and Karamo is super friendly and down to earth. I had a great time.

[@aic0809]

@@janelleimani945Thanks for sharing your experience! I’ve been wondering what it’s like to watch this live!

[@rafaellocke116]

No I have respect for my elders we are nothing alike

[@tomtrajnowski4266]

We’re you required to wear a mask

[@patricianyandoro5606]

Relationships are a two way business ... Most important is respect for each other .

[@tracijvanderbilt7552]

Wait a darn minute...the son cuss his dad out for being late, tells him and his girlfriend to get out, throws their bags out the house, pushed his dad out the house then slams the door shut cause he knew his dad was about to handle him for putting his hands on him. Dad kicks in door because his drunk son disrespected him by pushing him, son maced the dad....but somehow dad is in the wrong???? Get tf outta here. I'm with dad.... .Karamo I'm starting to think you are a gaslighter! Ooooh how many times did the son call his dad "boy" so disrespectful

[@Marilyn_123]

Hes literally homophobic.... yall r only paying attention to tha tpart but not his role in it

[@imthatbithritethere]

@@Marilyn_123 the son literally keeps saying he didn’t mace him until he called him a F* while they were arguing…that makes way more sense then him just cursing him out and macing him randomly.

[@chelybeann]

Yeah, when the dad said he didn’t want a relationship if his son couldn’t respect him, I understood that. Why be around someone who would cuss me out for being late. Why be around someone who maced you. And talks down to you. I see the dad has communication issues but he’s not the only one.

[@shimmergangfitness5880]

I see a few wrongs....but the son shouldn't have maced his dad. Control yourself and handle it accordingly

[@zie4229]

He says ‘boy ‘ to his father ,how disrespectful is that and Karamo sits there and overlooks it 😊😮

[@crystaldiaz694]

Karamo was about to get to holding the son accountable for his intoxication and macing but the father was too narcissistic and arrogant to let him get there. The parents have to model the respect first. The father is visiting at his adult sons apartment and his request was to be there when he gets home from a party. His frustration is valid because he’s a young man who was intoxicated and just wanted to have a safe place to sleep in his own place. Parents can’t be surprised when their kids act a certain way as adults. It’s a reflection of how adults treated them when they were younger and defenseless. Now that they are adults and can speak up for themselves all of a sudden “they are disrespectful”. Clearly, the son needs to manage his anger better and work on respect but so does the father. Sometimes you need to learn when to let someone go if they are unwilling to do the work. 6:10

[@Boldblackbutterfly]

Very well said my sister!!

[@AlexusMusic]

THISSSS !!! 🗣️🎯

[@williamglennbean]

His son is grown and is responsible for his actions!!! Spaying the father in the face with mace is ok!!!!!

[@elleenmusakwa72]

So when lm fustrated by someone Bein late Not to mention he is His Father l have to mace him?? Naaah cmon this is his Father big difference if he had told him he did not like it like an Adult he is l bet his Father would not hv reacted that way

[@Theoccasionalcreator]

Exactly! Karamo is the one with actual experience here. There are too many people with this ego on here that want so bad for this father to be validated but the son to be invalidated. Both of them were wrong. Only one of them wanted to take a step into repairing the relationship.

[@MrBeautiful2908]

Wow. SMH. Sigh. So heartbreaking. I’m at a loss for words. I’m a father my and this touches my soul 😢

[@serenitypowers]

Karamo would have let him acknowledged his mistake of disrespecting his father before asking the father to acknowledge his...We don't bring down elders because we want to pleased children. This don't happened in my community. His is a child and most be remorse of his action towards his father. Karamo step up and feel the pain of the father too

[@elleenmusakwa72]

@@serenitypowersthis right here 🙌🏾!!! Cz u can’t mace your Father over a petty issue n expect him not to react

[@lotusxinception3475]

I hate when parents expect respect while being disrespectful to their children. No wonder he doesn't have a relationship with his other kids, he's a bully and immature!

[@JT-qw5hd]

The father arrogant & ignorant. He wanted a respectful apology frm his son, but if he trusted the process Karamo like he said would have gotten to him. He was too busy letting his ignorant Ego leading him astray.

[@wandumazgabu7252]

He’s bully and immature ? What about the son ?

[@lotusxinception3475]

@@wandumazgabu7252 not saying that the son is perfect either but the father is supposed to lead...

[@lotusxinception3475]

@@JT-qw5hd Yeah the son was willing to work on the relationship. Sad that the father is throwing it all away...

[@mgeter1975]

The SON is wrong in this instance. 1. Should have never verbally disrespected his Father. 2. He Maced him. Imagine your child cursing you out, and turning around Macing you because you were late bringing there Keys. I don't blame the Father. I wouldn't want to be bothered with him either. Karamo, with all due respect, you wrong on this one bruh!

[@copperamerindian050]

I’m with dad on this one.. Don’t disrespect me and lash out unwarranted anger at me because of your hurt , especially when I wasn’t the one who rejected you.. These younger generations sense of entitlement is gettin worse and worse, especially amongst the rainbow community.. Until he realizes he is in fact a spoiled brat with anger issues, then he won’t have healthy relationships with anyone.. These younger generations are gettin way too soft as well which is why mental illness is at an all time high..

[@Cali90210-n]

This is sad seriously. People miss out on having loving relationships just because they'd rather dwell in their ego.

[@Theoccasionalcreator]

Agreed

[@TruthBringer.]

No if you mace me it's fxxk you. Their both adults Karamo dropped the ball on this one.

[@traceycoleman2340]

Karamo was correct. He did not take sides. He took a therapeutic approach to the discussion. Acknowledgment of “the hurt” is the first step to healing. He told the father SEVERAL times he would address his pain. The father justified his actions and would only focus on his pain. You can make progress without this step.

[@roniquejames5237]

Karamo you handled this alllll the way wrong. Let's start from the beginning which is where the son disrespected the father FIRST and maced him which caused a reaction from the father. Then continued to disrespect him by calling him boy and still carrying on as if he was right for what he did. Absolutely no accountability. This story had nothing to do with the son's sexual orientation. That narrative was really pushed. The father obviously accepts him. I would keep my distance from any child who would do that to me and can't even say sorry. Stewps!!!

[@ericaskinner4000]

💯💯

[@chrisy-e]

True he a good therapist but it's like sometimes he tends to lean too much in support of the lgbt or women!!

[@williamglennbean]

Karamo handled the POORLY!!!!! VERY BIASED!!!!!

[@worldof2ndfluteclarinet353]

He was trying to make it about rejection when that wasn’t how he actually felt

[@jenniferconley1192]

The dad may not have responded the way others thought he should have. Karamo was saying wait i will hear or address the situation but FIRST I need you to say J want to repair my relationship with son while the Dad wanted the disrespect from son to be addressed first. The F word being told to son seem to take priority over the fact son disrespected his father and the father wasn't having it. The son had a right to be upset about waiting but not to disrespect his father.

[@lellepad]

That guy in the audience in the black shirt was really feeling what the son went through. I’m sorry he couldn’t get what he wanted today. That being said, his pain is teaching others about theirs. I’m proud of him for being vulnerable enough to come on the show so at least the community got knitted a little tighter.

[@yoyobella3135]

It's like Karamo always sides with people who are gay no matter what. If a child wants to be respected then he or she needs to respect his or her parents first.

[@RiahMunnblock]

It doesn’t have nun to do with being gay u sound stupid

[@mspooh4136]

So true and this isn't the first time

[@carltoncoleman454]

@@mspooh4136 yeah this reminds me of the one with Karamo being so hard on the mother of a her transvestite son that she walked off the stage. That particular episode aired during his first week on the air.

[@mspooh4136]

@Carlton Coleman That's the same episode I was speaking of too!!

[@Higherpower-p9m]

Exactly!!!

[@cityboyfication]

I feel he should have started off by APOLOGIZING to his dad for macing and disrespecting him. It’s a big NO NO to disrespect your parent in ALL CULTURES. If this child calmed down and genuinely/sincerely apologized to his dad, I believe his dad would have been open to reconciliation. Sorry, but this child is OUT OF CONTROL! Our parents call us all kinds of names when they are upset, but they don’t really mean the insult. Clearly, his dad loves him to bits, but this child has been SPARED THE ROD while he was growing up. And the parents are to be blamed.

[@diamondjess123]

That son is absurd. Don't mace your dad! He is clearly disrespectful....Karmo you dead wrong on this one.

[@shereelewis2251]

I'm starting to have mixed feelings about Karomo. I'm 45 and when I came up you didn't disrespect your parents 💯! Karomo is wrong again like he was with the pink sauce show. The son was wrong as hell, disrespectful and curse 🤬at his father. My mom has said hurtful things in the past but never would I even think to mace her. Karomo didn't listen to the father, it's like because the dad called him a f-*-g, he was going to be biased and side with the son! You want the dad to acknowledge his wrong but not the spoil son! Karomo you took a big L on this one!

[@superkalafragilistic8289]

Im unsubscribing. This was such bs

[@sequoiasaunders8347]

You got to understand you can’t raise your children how you was raise it won’t be reciprocated the same way y’all reciprocated it

[@pocahantas67]

I understand exactly why the dad feels the way he does. Disrespectful children will make you not gaf and that son is disrespectful AF. He lucky his dad only kicked the door in and not his face after he maced him smh.

[@osunlade-daphne2598]

Y’all, if you watch the show often enough, you will see how Karamo always gets to both sides. IF the father would have been able to trust the process, Karamo would’ve not only gotten the son to be vulnerable enough to admit that he is angry and still hasn’t healed from rejection, the next thing he would have been able to get him to acknowledge was that he owed the father an apology. He ALWAYS gets both sides to look at where they went wrong. Karamo is also very clear on how Black parents don’t play about respect. Although I do believe that the father loves his son, his ego would not let him wait on his “turn “ and I’m saddened by that fact because I do believe that he would have gotten his apology, and that would have allowed him to in turn be vulnerable enough to say his choice of words was wrong and meant to cut his son deep. This is my opinion and it comes from a place of love. 💚

[@chrisy-e]

Karamo's fashion always on POINT every time though

[@yolosotoph1152]

I feel like we're missing some context here. Like maybe there was some contempt and previous issues from his dad and gf having to live with him, because why does it need to be said/emphasized to make sure Rafael's home so Teon can get into his home? He said there was some arguing in between-- I wonder if that was about their roommate situation. And really, I don't think that matters. If that was Rafael's house and Teon came home 40 minutes later laughing and kee-keeing like everything is fine, Rafael would've been pissed. Teon would've had NO right to then call his dad out his name. But, there are people in these comments placing all the blame on Teon, when his dad didn't stay aligned to Teon's boundary and simple ask, came up laughing in his face , and insulted Teon-- twice!! Rafael insulting his own son doesn't warrant respect in return. Everyone expects a child, even adult children, to forever respect our elders despite the abuses our elders do to us. It don't even make logical sense.

[@justblessed9358]

I’m with the father on this one

[@unpleasedwitch2235]

why?

[@ajaxthomas2012]

>> What you say when you’re angry or when you’re drunk is how you truly feel 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@gardenofeden9207]

Karamo has a calming voice 🫠

[@mercy6549]

Right😭

[@opulence_prime]

Chile he on the Waze app telling me to turn left because it’s right sometimes 😅 I enjoy his voice too.

[@sissaroyce8772]

Right. Karamo is intelligent as well and he not on that extra

[@dxllyloli581]

I love how in these comments they calling the son disrespectful or ungrateful because he shouldn’t have to wait for the key to get into HIS OWN HOME, his father disrespected him first and the son defended himself. People are so ignorant these days and it’s sad asf 😒. And most of these comments are adults who probably don’t have a relationship with their kids and call them disrespectful or ungrateful when they speak they truth or defend themselves.

[@globalprincess5471]

Hoping the best for both of them

[@FashionParadise04]

This the problem with being your child “best friend” the lines get blurred! You don’t disrespect your parents especially over them calling you a name. He litterally called his dad “boy” like whatttttt

[@williamglennbean]

RIGHT!!!!!!!

[@blacksunflower2958]

Being maced (spell check) by your son is crazy!! I’m usually hear for Karamos word but he got lost in the f word and wouldn’t let the dad get much out he was wrong but that man was cussed out and maced by his son and even after the dad left which was unfortunate he never made the son accountable for macing him and cussing him out or acknowledged that he was disrespectful still on the show his whole demeanor, I can see the love there between he and his dad I hope they figure it out truly

[@traceejohnson290]

The Biggest Disrespectful issue was the son Cursing and Macing the father, Not the "F" word.

[@britdom2059]

This is why it's important to not just give your kids the world but prepare them for it. I can read deeper into the situation...I hear how he was making himself bigger than his dad financially talking about "He's living with me & he doesn't have a phone" Now I see exactly what's going on. He's one of those big me little you people, he knows his dad has a good heart that's why he wants to repair the relationship but he's to full of himself. I wouldn't ever talk to my dad like that if he took forever with my key I would've never given it to him again he'll just have to wait on me to get there next time & he did all of that in front of his dad's girlfriend ..SMH this new generation of kids get so much handed to them and they're still ungrateful

[@opulence_prime]

Exactly. He was trying to humiliate the Dad because he was upset about the key. I’d never disrespect either of my parents in this way. I also wouldn’t let them live with me.

[@pearlmcneil9448]

I would have to love him at a distance that young man LOST his mind..........

[@kiravideos.5353]

🤣🤣 that’s what you read ? You may need glasses.

[@britdom2059]

@Kira videos. oh goodness you must be a cousin or something here to try & save the day and argue with the people that's commenting 😂

[@myopinion9999]

The son stated his father was there visiting and that the father lived out of town. The son stated his phone was off not the father.

[@ladylibertyxo]

I’m voting for the father on this one. Haven’t heard Karamo said to NOT MACE UR DAD!

[@sinavaitululeupolu1455]

They both showed disrespect n hope they can work on everything. It hurts watching this cause I'm close to my dad.

[@winxxclubbb]

If he grew up spoiled how was he rejected. He even started to say himself that he didn't feel that way.

[@realestatetipsbyakileach6032]

The DAD is IMMATURE!!! PERIOD!!!!!!

[@Dimples276]

I’m with Dad on this one, Karamo heard the F word and didn’t wanna acknowledge that the dad was actually right

[@VAATAUSILI4139]

Teon should never, dishonor his Father.

[@rahabwambui8474]

Clearly Karamo wasn't being professional since he allowed his emotions cloud his judgment. No matter your sexuality you shouldn't disrespect your parents.

[@l0rdapophis]

Couldn't be my father. I already told mine he was dead the next time we saw each other and that's on soul

[@ximsohiphopx6768]

Old gen lack accountability. “In my day you don’t disrespect your parents”. Son said dad was sleeping on his couch until he moved out of town. At the very least you show respect to your son who allowed you to stay at his home. First it took 10 min then 20 min then 40 minutes for you to get upstairs from the parking lot. Story is already inconsistent. But liars never tell the same story twice. So of course I’m gonna be mad when a liar tells me their version of the truth. Then you call him a slur. Old generation never learned how to apologize for their poor learned behavior. Instead they just blame their own kids, blame their parents or lack of, blame anyone but themselves for why they do the things they do

[@TIFFTHEGIFT1]

This one I’m going to have to disagree with the way you handled this situation karamo. Mace me and I’ll call you whatever y’all always trying to flip a situation and make it look like slander or whatever 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@AlyceMalyce]

The son literally assaulted his father for making him wait for a damn key. The father's reaction was wrong for reacting violently but honestly, the son earned his rejection, by macing his father in the face, then concocted the night's event's to make him seem more sympathetic.

[@moniquejohnson1822]

I agree with Charleston White when he said, "Sometimes you gotta say "f" dem kids". 🤣Str8-up. I have a nephew, and a niece, that are both very disrespectful. Both are in their early twenties. As long as you are giving them what they want, when they want it, they are happy. Then they love you. As soon as you don't,... Or you try to discipline them simply by telling them that what they are doing, or saying is wrong,... They become very upset, and talk very disrespectful. They flip the table on you, and say, "I don't care if you are my parent, aunt, or grandparent. If I feel like you're talking/treating me in a disrespectful manner. I'm going to disrespect you right back". 😳 Oh helllll no!! I was raised to honor my parents, my elders, or etc. So I do not accept, or condone, this type of treatment from young people. At one point I was helping my niece with her rent, and buying her food. Once she began acting this way I put an end to it. I love her. Yet, from a distance. With a smart mouth like that,... She needs to learn how to make her own way in life. I also love my oldest nephew from a distance. He also talks to me very badly at times. So he too, must make his own way. He asked me to help him with his rent, and I told him no, as well. He made a very disgusting comment about my not working during my treatments for breast cancer 3 years ago. He was aware that I have a mental illness diagnosis, and had an open SSDI case. Well, since he talks to much,... He's on his own. "Sometimes you gotta say "f" dem kids". 🤣 And stick by it. Until they completely change their ways. 💯

[@sabrina21clark]

You are so right! BLOCK EM!

[@moniquejohnson1822]

@@sabrina21clark 🤣 Gurrrl!! 🤣

[@jalysahenry9288]

Karamo missed on this one. He kept forcing the word “rejection” when the boy was clearly telling him that’s not the case. The disrespect is what needed to be addressed here!

[@workinghardtomakemyfutureb7932]

the son shouldn't have done that. if you disrespect your parents you got to deal with the consequence