I Made 5 New Pokémon Move Categories

[@Reyzorblade]

I think you forgot to include Dazzling Gleam in your list of light moves but other than that, great video!

[@bb4life141]

and maybe Electro Shot

[@x_bell1142]

True, I definitely should include that

[@yonkodude]

@@bb4life141electro shot would kinda just make any electric move be light based. It isnt light based at all and mostly just concentrated electricity being fired.

[@bb4life141]

@@yonkodude could be

[@Ty2000.]

And him pronouncing Shiinotic “Shintonic”

[@KanderUdon]

I’ve been on the light move train for a while. I’ve thought of a few things: Photosynthesis - This Pokémon is immune to Light Based Moves. It heals 50% of its maximum HP if hit by a Light Based Move. Veiled Eyes - This Pokémon is immune to Light based moves. Radiant Glow - The power of Light Based Moves is increased by 1.5x. Blazing Glare - All Light Based Moves are converted to Fire type. Tinted Mask - The holder takes 50% less damage from light-based moves.

[@x_bell1142]

These are some cool ideas!

[@goldenbunny-rc7mr]

I think 50% is too much

[@flamejedbarboach4297]

Reflective - Reflects 50% of the damage taken from light-based moves to the attacker. Refractive - Reduces damage taken from light-based moves by 50%.

[@x_bell1142]

@@flamejedbarboach4297 Those are some sick ideas

[@azureblue99]

I feel like a new category related ability can be a lot more creative than just a different flavored sharpness tho. Something like triage is a great example for variety. Since there's a lot of kick move with crash damage, we can just have an ability that make all kick moves always hit. And we can have other abilities like make all slamming move have a 30% chance to para, or all light move become spread move, or something like these. Also just like sound move can go through subsititue, adding properties to a new category itself can also make these far more interesting.

[@jashpippins8228]

I think the idea was it's just an example of an ability to go along with the move categories, a whole team of people with enough time to probably come up with a ton different abilities for these categories

[@spunchbob.]

Imagine a +1 Dondozo pulling a 180 BP Wave Crash out of its ass 💀

[@x_bell1142]

After a +2 boost from commander

[@spunchbob.]

@@x_bell1142 Forgot about doubles and oh god 💀 +2 252+ Atk Dondozo Wave Crash vs. 248 HP / 252 Def Toxapex: 83-98 (53.2 - 62.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[@jamesfeng24]

@@spunchbob.amoongus would be the benchmark physical resist in VGC +2 252+ Atk Dondozo Wave Crash vs. 244 HP / 188+ Def Amoonguss: 135-159 (61.3 - 72.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO oh my god indeed

[@spunchbob.]

@@jamesfeng24 I don't play VGC at all but I'm how tanky Amoonguss is and oh god 💀

[@luisgarcia1337]

If i remember correctly, you missed other Kicking/foot moves such as Aqua Step, Stomp, High Horsepower, Thunderous Kick, Pyro Ball and Triple Arrows which RR also classifies as a Kicking move. I also recommend using the Dex for ghe Rom hack Emerald Elite Redux since it also has the Striker ability and lets you filter moves by certain effects such as getting a Striker or Iron Fist boost.

[@yonkodude]

A stomp is not a kick. Aqua step is also more a choreographed movement of the legs. Pyro ball is the FLAMING BALL not the leg that kicks it. Triple arrows is… an arrow. High horse power and thunderous kick are completely justified however. Dont just take radical red’s words as the game likes to appease players by giving synergies not possible in regular games.

[@TheRedSmarty]

​​@@yonkodude Triple Arrows starts with a kick, that's in its description and animation.

[@luisgarcia1337]

@@yonkodude Aqua Step literally involves kicking though and Pyro Ball is literally based on a Soccer/Futbol flourish and kick. And it's the signature move of Cinderace, y'know? The STRIKER Pokemon who's entire concept is BEING BASED ON SOCCER PLAYERS. I understand Stomp not counting, but the rest sure do.

[@buycraft911miner2]

@@luisgarcia1337 triple arrows is questionable too

[@somebody4094]

​​@@buycraft911miner2 The user delivers an axe kick, then fires three arrows. This raises the chance of its future attacks landing critical hits and also lowers the target's defensive stats. and The user kicks, then fires three arrows. This move has a heightened chance of landing a critical hit and may also lower the target’s Defense stat or make it flinch. from bulbapedia, definitely strange but there is a kicking part

[@SadGreenBish]

This is the best & most well thought out take on new move categories I've seen

[@x_bell1142]

Thanks! I put a lot of effort into this one

[@ednorthon]

Great video! One thing I would do different is just add Luminous into Illuminate effect cuz currently Illuminate is mechanically useless in battle, which would also save an Ability slot for the Pokemon you mentioned Edit 1: Oh and I would change Lashing Force into lashing / whipping move in general so we can add Power Whip, Vine Whip and Fire Lash into the mix as well. This also extend the possible receiver for the Ability to Pokemons with long tendrils

[@Greenomb]

Just to be accurate: in gen 9 illuminate received an in battle effect being that it prevents the user’s accuracy from being lowered and lets it ignore evasion boost. Not to take away from your comment but just wanted to make it clear.

[@mahrii3093]

Nice pfp

[@x_bell1142]

Adding whipping moves to Lashing Force is really creative and a great idea!

[@ednorthon]

@@Greenomb Appreciate the notice! So Illuminate shares the function with Keen Eye now. Not great but it sure is not useless I guess

[@ednorthon]

@@mahrii3093 Thanks!

[@r-18altaccount85]

thoughts: illuminate should make light moves bypass accuracy check and lower evasion confuse ray is a light move (jp name is strange light) false swipe is a wing move (jp name is strike with flat side of blade, which is basically what a wing smack is)

[@typemasters2871]

One category I thought would be interesting would be “Headbutting” or “charging” moves So all moves with the word “Head” in the name and Raging Bull (apparently the only move that implies attacking with the head without the word “head” in the name) And if that’s not enough, throw in some moves where the user is charging at the opponent (I.E. flame charge, flare blitz, wild charge, trailblaze, and maybe extreme speed)

[@guillemtb1671]

Skull Bash is also a head move without head in its name, too

[@typemasters2871]

@@guillemtb1671 thanks for the addition

[@pedrohenriquemonteirodacos3224]

Fun fact in pokemon Super Mystery Dunegon, Ligth-based is actualy a category and are afected by illuminate alowing the user to becomes a decoy for oponent attacks. This category also includes Confuse Ray, Spark, Thunder Wave and Volt Tackle as well some status moves which are not listed on the video.

[@BrawlSnorlax]

I made up a couple of Catargoies also * Beams are mostly what you would expect, such as HyperBeam, Ice Beam, and so on, but also Flamethrower. * Grapples are used for moves that squeeze or throw the target, such as Bind, Consturt, and Strom Throw. * Hammer Kinda joining, but I was confused and thought there would be more Hammer Moves than Mega Luncher moves. Hammer Arm, Ice Hammer, Crab Hammer, Wood Hammer, Gigaton Tammer.

[@x_bell1142]

Hammer moves was actually one of the categories I made for this video, but I left it out as it was too small. I also came up with something similar to your grapple category that also didn't end up making the video, which is gripping moves. I like yours better though!

[@BrawlSnorlax]

@@x_bell1142 Thank you. Have a nice day.

[@NeoWocky]

Shin guard could also provide protection from contact moves and a small boost like the punching glove item Edit: headlong rush's description also says it's a full body slam

[@tangerinepaint3643]

fun fact: headlong rush is classified as a punching move

[@x_bell1142]

Headlong Rush is already a punching move, so I don't think being both a punching move and slamming move would make sense

[@jordanbean5507]

Love the idea of Light moves being a category to appease those of us who used to want a Light type.

[@ghostlyfieldclub2930]

Small suggestion for the winged moves list: if fiery dance is included because it's an attack made by beating wings, maybe it'd be fair to have gust, twister and hurricane as well?

[@melindamuller4466]

I could see Beam moves being another category, including Psybeam, Ice Beam, Aurora Beam, Signal Beam, Bubble Beam, Dragon Energy, Hyper Beam, Charge Beam, Photon Geysir and the other Necrozma signature move, Moongeist Beam, Spotlight, Solar Beam and Solar Blade, Mirror Shot and potentially Power Gem, Flash Cannon, Tri-Attack, Techno blast and Sunsteel Strike. I also would create kicks and tail moves. Another new category I could see would be 'hammer moves' like Hammer Arm, Crabhammer, Ice Hammer, Dragon Hammer, Wood Hammer and potential future moves.

[@melindamuller4466]

Ah, I didn't get to your light moves yet XD

[@melindamuller4466]

(I also made the Beam Category before gen 8)

[@chrisjohnsen8448]

I think they should introduce way more moves with unusual type interactions, such as Freeze Dry and Flying Press, so they can have the move category "Oddity Attacks" and a new ability "Oddity Specialist" to boost their power by 30%.

[@yonkodude]

No because then it would just make them better than the original moves. There should be an equal cost/opportunity to using feeeze dry over ice beam as it has no drawbacks and hits water types

[@bb4life141]

@yonkodude no because not all Pokémon would have access to Oditty Specialist. You won't see an Iron Bundle with that ability. Maybe Cyogonal thar has Freeze-Dry and it's trash

[@x_bell1142]

I was actually thinking of making a video where I theorized new "oddity" moves like that

[@bb4life141]

@x_bell1142 I invented one called Corrosive Strike. A base 70 physical water move that has a 10% chance to lower defense and it super effective against steel type Pokémon. Y'know, cuz the metal rust

[@viggosevenhant5595]

​@bb4life141 Even though it makes sense for it to be a water type move, I'd personally like it more if it was a poison type move instead. Water is already strong enough as it is, while poison getting a buff is an indirect nerf for Fairy types while also nerfing Steel a little.

[@Andreecals]

"Shintonic" seems like a pun name on shintoism and hairgrowth tonic (the image of bald monks came to mind). We need this regional form for shiinotic.

[@x_bell1142]

I've totally been pronouncing it wrong all these years 💀

[@Andreecals]

@@x_bell1142 hahahaha you were subconsciously bringing a new mon into creation (I'm somewhat dyslexic too, so I totally get it xD)

[@Andreecals]

I just thought the abilities should be more than slapping a 50% boost on the moves, but maybe I was thinking of the special interactions such categories should have, like sound moves ignoring substitute and such. Like for instance, wing moves could dispel powder moves, or the effects of mist or smokescreen. And light moves could increase the accuracy of the next move that hit the target by 10%, or make it not affected my misdirection for the turn.

[@x_bell1142]

True, I wanted to do more than just the 50% boost abilities but I ran out of ideas 💀

[@Regeor]

I love using Mons that have great synergy with their abilities.

[@bread7259]

Pyro Ball definitely should have been a kicking move, since its just getting a rock kicked at you

[@x_bell1142]

True, didn't think of that

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

it would in the ball and bomb area. i don't know why have orgin pulse when that is a sphere of water fire at people and charge beam is a focus electric way

[@gavinaaric]

Just a suggestion you should’ve added dazzling gleam to light moves since it shoots light rays basically Love your videos!!

[@noahthecrazy1632]

I thin, the tail ability should boost the accuracy of them, since most of them are crippled by being unreliable

[@x_bell1142]

True

[@lilharm]

I’ve always felt like two categories would make sense airborne and grounded moves airborne moves would fly through the air, meaning, if they’re ground type, they ignore ground immunity caused by flying/floating, but would be dampened or even eliminated by gravity and grounded moves are the opposite, moves that are tied to the ground, and so wouldn’t be able to hit a flying Pokemon, even if not directly ground type obviously though, not every move would have to fit one or the other, as that would shake things up way too much

[@marverickbin]

I've been also planning game mechanics that include new cathegories. Here are mine: Cosmic: moves related to space time, other dimensions, celestial bodies. Cosmic_moves: 'Draco Meteor', 'Meteor Mash', 'Cosmic Power', 'Cosmic Punch', 'Moonblast','Meteor Beam', 'Gravity', 'Roar of Time', 'Spacial Rend', 'Meteor Assault', 'Meteor Beam', 'Dark Void', 'Blood Moon', 'Moonlight', 'Moongeist Beam', 'Morning Sun', 'Sunsteel Strike' 'Swift', 'Prismatic Laser', 'Photon Geyser', 'Lunar Blessing', 'Lunar Dance', 'Hyperspace Hole', 'Hyperspace Fury', 'Eternabeam' Light: Simplily light. I do not include every type of beam, and also include status like flash and tail glow. light_moves: 'Aurora Beam', 'Aurora Veil', 'Dazzling Gleam', 'Flash', 'Diamond Storm', 'Lumina Crash', 'Flash Cannon', 'Glitzy Glow', 'Judgement', 'Light of Ruin', 'Light Screen', 'Light That Burns the Sky', 'Luster Purge', 'Tail Glow', 'Mirror Coat', 'Mirror Shot', 'Mirror Move', 'Moonlight', 'Power Gem', 'Prismatic Laser', 'Reflect', 'Signal Beam', 'Solar Beam', 'Solar Blade' Piercing are moves with spiky apendages that meant to pierce the foe. Usually horns spykes, drills, beaks. piercing_moves = 'Fell Stinger', 'Drill Run', 'Drill Peck', 'Poison Sting', 'Barb Barrage', 'Pin Missile', 'Spiky Shield', 'Glacial Lance', 'Horn Attack', 'Horn Drill', 'Horn Leach', 'Hyper Drill', 'Icicle Spear', 'Mega Horn', 'Needle Arm', 'Peck', 'Pluck', 'Pounce', 'Spike Cannon', 'Spikes', 'Bolt Beak', 'Branch Poke' Kicking, very similar, but also included high horsepower because of hooves animation, and pyro ball (force of kicking affects it), aqua step (dance and kicking move). kicking_moves = 'Axe Kick', 'Blaze Kick', 'Double Kick', 'High Jump Kick', 'Jump Kick', 'Low Kick', 'Mega Kick', 'Rolling Kick', 'Stomp', 'Thunderous Kick', 'Triple Arrows', 'Triple Axel', 'Triple Kick', 'Pyro Ball', 'Aqua Step', 'Trop Kick', 'Triple Arrows', 'High Horsepower' In the mechanic i am thinking, there would be another attribute to pokemon marking the category of moves (beyond abilities and types). Just add 20% damage to these moves. For instance, kabutops doest have sharpness, but its design clearly indicates it is good at slicing moves. So, it receives 20% on slicing moves. Also, it caps at 50% when combined with the ability. And I listed all pokemon that could receive these categories, for all of them, including the ones that already exist, like sound, slicing, and multi-hit. BTW one of my favorites is multiple: pokemon with multiple being (usually more than 1 head) causes 20% more damage with multi-hit moves.

[@marverickbin]

Also, this mechanic could also include something aike third type, without including the third type. Like: charizard could have 20% damage boost on dragon moves, just for instance.

[@McC0n0r]

Ngl, going from slamming moves (of which your list includes notable weight based moves) to light moves, I was hoping your "light" was in regards to weight. I don't think light weight is relevant outside of the Ability Light Metal and weight based move damage calculations but since it's not a typical topic, I was interested in hearing your theory crafting. Lol. On a related note, I think your light type Ability and item should be switched. The Ability should give you light immunity and the item should increase your damage. I don't think any single Pokemom wields enough light-based moves to warrant an entire ability. (Ampharos is the only option that comes to mind, with access to both Meteor Beam, Signal Beam, Power Gem and Charge Beam.) However, there are enough relevant light moves on your list to warrant an immunity Ability as a niche option similar to Bulletproof.

[@Father-of-Xerxes]

I’d imagine stomping tantrum, high horsepower, and temper flare could also be kicking moves

[@ValToadstool]

An item that makes you immune to ice beam would be insane

[@thanib7796]

Long Reach should boost archery based moves. Triple Arrows and Spirit Shackle only, but still better than nothing. Makes Decidueye more unique.

[@TheCrogun]

Imo Steel Toe is a better name for the kicking ability. It references steel toed boots and pairs perfectly with Iron Fist.

[@Beansantoast]

I have a new move in mind called solar crash a 120 base power move that deals 1/3 of recoil when the user misses it will deal 1/8 of it has a 95% accuracy and it's a physical fire move

[@SakhotGamer]

Ah yes, Shitonic, my favorite variant of shinootic

[@x_bell1142]

I totally was pronouncing that wrong, my bad 🤣

[@lukaskback9710]

Pyro Ball should be a kicking move, since the power of the move comes from the user kicking a burning rock at the opponent.

[@StephenMeek]

Now I want a "bicycle kick" move that does something like circle throw.

[@StephenMeek]

On that note, throwing moves would be interesting too.

[@BasicallyJesus]

They should make a freaky move category that includes all the moves where the user gets freaky 🥴

[@Carnagemode]

missed opertunity to make illuminate deal extra light damage

[@ritwikism]

If Cinderace is getting Striker, Pyro Ball should get boosted by it, because of the animation.

[@VWabhijit]

I think sun steel strike shoud be a light type move as It's basically Sogalao or Necrozma slaming the light of the light of the sun into the opponent.

[@amja327]

Isn't this a re-upload? Anyway, great video 👍

[@x_bell1142]

Yes, I accidentally posted at the wrong time and it messed up my typical upload schedule timing

[@Subatomicfish]

I don’t think Striker would necessaaaaarily be a good fit for Lokix, but Lokix definitely deserves some kind of boost to kicking moves. I wouldn’t mind it having its own signature ability to replace swarm lol

[@jonathanogodo3431]

I think Pyro Ball should be a kicking move as you are striking a ball

[@JustJordanParker]

Now I'm even more sad that Aerodactyl doesn't get Brave Bird

[@blackdot105]

I'd give Heavy Metal the properties of Heavy Impact.

[@elladunham9232]

I wonder if there’s enough moves for a “head” category incoming head smash, headbutt, zen headbutt, and iron head

[@theswagatron]

gotta give serperior the tail ability!

[@Mirawaru]

3:51 just a small correction "Aku" doesn't exactly translate to evil, it is more dark but in the metaphorical sense (probably this is the reason the localized used this word) That is why not "evil" pokemon like Absol and Sableye are still dark, they have coonnection to dark themes and behaviors.

[@Jasonwolf1495]

Something more like grim.

[@somebody4094]

mienshao Is more a punching Pokémon than a kicking One since the arms/hands are so emphasized

[@chegwin_yee160]

I love this guys

[@x_bell1142]

Thanks

[@WyattBehm]

Want to know something funny due to claunchers ability and aura or pulse move gets boosted so if they come out with a move called aura kick or something like that it would get mega launcher boosted also who else thinks it’s dumb that ball and beam moves don’t also get boosted by mega launcher

[@zanyludicolo]

I'm surprised headlong rush wasn't included in slamming moves, since the Dex description describes this as a "full body tackle" Similarly dazzling gleam for the light move category

[@x_bell1142]

Dazzling Gleam I would include now that you mention it, but for Headlong Rush, it is already categorized as a punching move so I didn’t feel it would make sense for it to be both a punching and slamming move

[@martinbonnebouche4718]

Gyarados needs the tail one

[@x_bell1142]

True, I should have added it to the list

[@jjthepikazard212]

love these

[@x_bell1142]

Thanks!

[@gamefan1353]

Instead of Luminous I think Illuminate should get an additional effect of doing more light damage. Would make it an actually relevant ability (though actually it did get changed in Gen 9 already, right?)

[@KanderUdon]

Btw give watchog that light ability too. Its needs it

[@ninjakirby777]

Heavy impact is so broken wtf lol considering everything else is fairly well balanced why’d you go and make that one so much better??? It should be a 30% like everything else then it would still be good but not broken.

[@Ignotiou]

yeah i agree slamming moves would be way too OP

[@KanderUdon]

Its not too dissimilar from sharpness which is also 50%

[@x_bell1142]

True, 50% is probably too high 😅

[@olafmikoaj3121]

​@@KanderUdonHalf of slammimg moves are like 100 base power or more. Slicing moves are much weaker in general

[@smolmozi7917]

It is broken but most of the mons that would get it range from niche to ass, at least in singles. I think it'll be fine to let them have a nuke of an attack. Dondozo is good but it needs unaware, idk about vgc though

[@pablomonederocarmona679]

Shin guards get kind of outclassed by wide lens I'm afraid

[@x_bell1142]

Wide lens wouldn't stop you from taking damage when hitting into a protect or an immunity though, which is common counter play to moves with crash damage

[@frakspikes2619]

what would you define Pokemon moves that relate to food? as in moves that feed something the pokemon that uses it, OR to the target poke? heck! Even moves that use up a poke's held Berries?

[@omar3751]

Instand of hisui decidueye galar zappdos would fix it better. About light move dazzling glean is missing tje japanes naem is even magical shine

[@crazylasagna3576]

Gust should also be a wing move

[@WyattBehm]

Another comment as my first one is a valid point but why isn’t dazzling gleam part of the light category in game it looks like a bright flash of light and also shouldn’t the luminous ability give extra healing to the light based healing moves like morning sun or moonlight also flash should also be on this list just for fun but a practical use would be for it to lower acc by 2 stages instead of 1 and screen moves should last as long as possible with out light clay sconce the Pokemon that learn screen moves that get this ability are either not very bulky or have quad weaknesses except for starmie also espathra should be in the list for luminous

[@x_bell1142]

@@WyattBehm I’d definitely include Dazzling Gleam now that you point it out!

[@a.y.5812]

I think for forgot giga impact in the slamming moves

[@sheeplol2161]

do you have any ideas besides "moves of this category have an ability that boosts the power" or "this ability/item makes the user immune to moves of this category"

[@x_bell1142]

Nope

[@sheeplol2161]

@@x_bell1142 🔥

[@cat8506]

yoo heavy impact is insanely broken

[@cat8506]

ok they are like all broken icl bc lmaoo

[@Andreecals]

Guzzlord for heavy impact

[@x_bell1142]

I specifically excluded any legendaries/mythicals/ultra beasts/paradoxes from getting these abilities since I feel it wouldn't fit thematically as well as regular Pokémon

[@Andreecals]

@@x_bell1142 really? Why not? Should they get signature abilities, you think?

[@x_bell1142]

@@AndreecalsWell the ultra beasts in particular all have the same ability, so it wouldn’t make sense for one of them to randomly have a different ability. Maybe if they all got hidden abilities that would work, like Kartana getting sharpness

[@thedude882]

Shouldn't fire blitz be a slamming move?

[@enderdoctor7631]

pyro ball should be kicking

[@DarcyMH]

Shintonic 🥴

[@Psychomaniac14]

where Solar Blade, that's a Light move

[@MemeDude-rl9wk]

Nice

[@x_bell1142]

Thanks

[@tangerinepaint3643]

1:03 iirc some of the radical red abilities are taken from pokemon clover, such as Striker, Bone Zone, and Blademaster (formerly) Also, Immunity ability idea *Pitch Black* - Makes the Pokémon immune to light moves. Could be an ability given to base Necrozma or smth.

[@Entropicembrace]

Lumineon not having luminous :(

[@x_bell1142]

True, should have included it

[@indigo...]

CRYOGONAL MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!

[@AGMadeItBratlord]

cryogonal should get a new ability "limitless charm" that infatuates the opponent on contact

[@x_bell1142]

Let's goooo

[@moondogli]

Dazzling Gleam??

[@x_bell1142]

True, I would definitely include that for light moves now that you mention it

[@MewHQ_says_hi]

Shintonic?

[@x_bell1142]

Yes I know, I was pronouncing it wrong. I thought it was spelled differently

[@rhyshin5662]

X

[@ritwikism]

Wtf is that Shiinotic pronunciation. It's not even close.

[@x_bell1142]

I am aware, I thought it was spelled differently and didn't realize I was pronouncing it wrong