I made Paint like ancient people...

[@DragonBookWriter]

Don't forget, pigments from the past were refined over many generations and you've only dabbled. The fact that you were able to paint anything afterwards shows you were far more successful than you appeared to feel. The vibrant colours you showed from ancient cave paintings were using many years of experience; considering the amazing things I've seen you do on this channel, I'm confident that you could do this as well as you had hoped with just a few more dabbles

[@vanillaicecream2385]

if we're going off cave paintings, as long as they stuck to the wall and looked halfway decent, jazza did a really good job all things considered

[@SlenderWolf109]

And on the comparison to modern pigment he makes- modern pigment is made specifically for this purpose, ancient people had to work with what they had and work around the pigments' textures and clumping tendencies, and that took years and years, like you said. Going from modern pigment to older kinds probably created warped expectations and more rigid technique than they might have used. I wonder if playing with different media than linseed oil (even other kinds of oil) and spending more time grinding the powders down (maybe for some like the beetroot, baking, grinding, then baking and grinding again?) Would drastically change the results.

[@mgeller854]

@@SlenderWolf109pretty much wanted to say that also there’s a bug in Mexico they grind to make dyes,other bugs or local products might have produced different pigments more or less easily

[@highdefinition450]

yea i mean this isn't bad at all lol, we all are our harshest critics after all lmao

[@Jesse-zk9ge]

Fun fact, colored dyes like Royal Purple had particular smells to prove their authenticity. Basically it wasn't Royal Purple if it didn't smell like dead fish, which strangely made it more valuable. 8:06

[@occheermommy]

That is an interesting fact. Kind of gross though.

[@paulwoodford1984]

I wonder if this millionaire is still begging for money from poorer people

[@stevestogsdill5791]

I've heard Mediterranean free divers would dive for a very particular little purple shell for making royal purple.

[@stevestogsdill5791]

You can also dissolve egg shell in vinegar to get pure (and white) calcium

[@-DailyDoseOfART-]

Purple was found in sea snails in lebanon

[@VincentKraven]

I'd love to see a part 2 where you get in touch with an expert in historical paint making. Learn all you can, and give this another go after being taught how to get good paint consistency from natural materials in historically accurate (non-factory refinery) ways.

[@bambiraptor9]

This!!😊

[@xxPenjoxx]

That's a fantastic suggestion 👌

[@invisiblesteve9523]

Yess I'd be so down to watch this

[@ThorStroliaDavis]

There is a guy who has done a really amazing job synthesizing historical paint hues who would be cool to contact as well. Ryan Demaree. He got some notice selling his paints on Ebay. I would bet he might have some useful insight if he is interested in doing something with Jazza

[@erizamisorafujoshi7002]

This is an amazing idea! 😊😊😊

[@lost_dog2]

I love how he's surprised that wet dirt has the consistency of mud

[@binoodle511]

Or that crushed rocks of lapis lazuli mixed with Lin seed oil has the consistency of wet sand, when sand is just ground up rocks

[@Balkan_elf]

That's because he didn't do the research on how to extract the pigments from various elements in nature and how to use them properly😂 I understand that it takes a long time to do that, so I'll forgive him hahahahha

[@Keditorian]

i was surprised at this comment and then realised that wet dirt is legit mud. :(

[@celestialrodent]

@@Keditorian this is so funny to me

[@zirenitamon]

11:38 Fun fact: the reason why his blue color ended up less vibrant and grainy is because lapis lazuli is a metamorphic rock, which means that it’s compose of other other rocks (lazurite, calcite and pyrite). To get a better color one can get better quality lapis lazuli with less calcite and pyrite or just use lazurite, which is what gives lapis lazuli it’s color and also it’s much easy to pulverize because it’s much “softer” (lazurite being generally 5 on mohs scale, while lapis lazuli is generally 5.5).

[@GeryNH]

Thank you :)

[@rebekahgoss4985]

Iraq is the country where lapis rock is from .

[@chelsmeister]

@@rebekahgoss4985 It is also from Chile!

[@Ellie-hy4of]

Wow

[@SongsOfDragons]

The ceiling of Carlisle Cathedral is painted ultramarine from lapis lazuli pigment. My father-in-law was a cathedral guide and when I talked with his colleagues they told me that the last time the ceiling was repainted was in the 1970s, and they sent a bunch of them over to actual Afghanistan to see the mines and the rock they dug out, the sale of the pigment was a full-on event. Now he laments it won't be possible to do that when the ceiling needs repainting again, and it's getting towards needing it - and he told me about this before the recent rubbish news. :( They'll probably have to leave it until the colour noticeably fades.

[@erisgath7688]

For a better black, you can make "lamp black" You just hold something like a plate over a sooty flame, like a big smoky candle flame and the soot sticks to the plate. The soot is already a fine powder, so its ready to go, and the powder is super fine. In the past I tried to make ink using crushed charcoal and it was unusably terrible, so I looked into how it was actually done, and the answer is soot!

[@ima.ekenes]

This is one of the ways they make the japanese ink sticks, burning hundreds of oil lamps and harvestun soot. So fascinating!

[@CaptainTwitchy]

@@ima.ekenesstrangely I watched about an hour long video of that exact process on here. It was very cool.

[@Buzzzy-bee]

@@CaptainTwitchysame lol

[@sk818factory5]

I have a stick and poke tattoo of a B that did this way

[@stamasd8500]

Some pointers for pigments: 1. if you want to get them as fine as possible, there is no getting around ball-milling the powders. After you crush them as much as you can with a hammer, load them in a rock tumbler with steel balls and let it run for hours up to a few days, and you'll get very fine powders. Sometimes it goes faster if you add a little moisture, i.e. use damp powder to load the mill. 2. a much finer black is lamp black. Basically soot that you collect by placing a sheet of metal, glass etc above the flame of a wax candle or oil lamp. The very fine particles of carbon collect on the plate and can be scraped off periodically. This was used in antiquity too. 3. Pigments from beets, red cabbage etc. are anthocyanins. The color is sensitive to pH. For instance, red beet pignent is red only in acidic environments. In alkaline conditions the color changes drastically (for instance by adding a little sodium carbonate or hydroxide). You can get blues and greens this way. The downside is that they are really not lightfast and will fade rapidly when exposed to light, both in the red and in the blue/green form. 4. There were synthetic pigments used even in antiquity. Especially blues, because natural blue pigments were so scarce. Look up "Egyptian blue" for instance, the wikipedia article is quite good on the subject.

[@itswadever]

The need for ball milling was the exact wall I ran into when I was experimenting. This video might just get me to go after it again.

[@LisaBluestar83]

Im not sure I remember correctly but some Natural color do better as dye then oil color ( As in brighter) or is it just they need "Chemicals" to be brighter

[@deimondrawsproductions]

this was actually rly interesting to read

[@Im-building-stuff]

It's complicated try mixii water and the crushed powder and after a while the good stuff remain on the bottom the bad stuf remain in the water try this process 2 or 3 times and after that let the weat powder in the sun after the powder it's dried it's ready to be used, this whas used for generațion !

[@comedynerd6669]

Also you need to be mindful of pigment size because if you overmill the lapis it will just be grey.

[@matthewshiers9038]

That final piece was quite impressive even without knowing the efforts that went into making the pigments! Knowing the production process made it so much better! Definitely something we take for granted!

[@arkhimsanitastupor]

It enriches the narrative.

[@marcuscarana9240]

0:15 This is actually the reason why there were no flags that were purple in color because it would have been too expensive to paint flags with such an expensive paint. And this is why if you had a purple robe, back then, it was like flaunting gold and silver bling to your friends.

[@Krankaroon]

My ansestor invented artificial purple dye so he’s the reason it’s not only for the rich anymore

[@failurenotsorry6600]

​@@Krankaroon your ancestor? do you know the name?

[@somepunkinthecomments471]

That painting at the end is absolutely gorgeous! I love the minimalist/monochromatic look you ended up with. The textures of the grainy paints add a lot of visual intrigue. It just looks so natural, reminiscent of woods and rawhide. I'd buy it.

[@LucarioBoricua]

Looks like a tribute to cave paintings!

[@tali3san337]

The book "Colour" by Victoria Finlay is an fantastic exploration of how colours were created historically. Well worth reading.

[@leahgroess5361]

Second the recommendation.

[@DaleTrevors]

Thanks I enjoy finding unexpected recommendations that I find interesting!

[@ellac89]

its literally sitting right next to me as I watched this video. Just made it to "the pencil wars" and im fascinated

[@cnd140]

I was thinking this exactly. The Indian yellow is a myth as the mango leaf diet would have killed the cows.

[@roswithaprochazka912]

Came here to say that!

[@ericgreenwood4812]

PLEASE come back to this in a few years and do a video on how each of the pigments lasted over time!

[@bambiraptor9]

I'm curious to see this too!

[@erizamisorafujoshi7002]

😮😮😮 that would be absolutely awesome

[@MimiKandsomerandomnumbers]

Charcoal should be unchanged, maybe some organic matter in the dirt would decay and make it less vibrant.The turmeric though, it's not a pigment we use in fine art, as it's organic matter it shouldn't be lightfast

[@SabethRavenwing]

As someone who has dyed fabric with turmeric I can tell you it will fade fast, UV light will bleach it out quite quickly. IDK if the linseed oil will help or hinder. I did a linen sun dress near two years ago it started out close to orange and it is now a soft off white. Kind of nice having it a different color every time I wore it, and when I wore it in bright sun you could see it fade over the day with there being light spots were the sun hit. Pretty for clothes not a good thing for paint

[@Tactlessly_Truthful]

Yes‼️💯‼️ I was wondering that myself, how long could it last?

[@iiruniaalice1764]

next, jazza tries Kintsugi (golden repair japanese process) to repair the broken morter and the rest of broken things in the studio 🤣

[@annettefournier9655]

That is a beautiful technique ❤

[@CrazyGamebino]

i remember seeing some kintsugi repaired bowl last year but never knew the process was japanese or its name

[@actuallyfrankie]

Yo! He should!!!

[@invisiblesteve9523]

I would love to see this 💖

[@rebekahdery142]

Yes please!!! I would love to see that!!!

[@ravenpotter3]

I just bought a book called maybe titled “the secret lives of color” from a gift shop and I’ve been reading it. It explores every pigment and the history and uses. It’s absolutely fascinating! I’m only in the white section rn but it’s fastinating how she talks about how obsessed people have been with finding a “pure” white and how a lot of whites are just very light colors

[@alexspies-pronouncedspeez]

haha i have a book called the secret language of color. its quite a fun read. lots of vibrant images.

[@metalrainbow2728]

This sounds really interesting! Very much my type of read! I'm going to see if I can find it, or a similar book online! Thanks for sharing! :)

[@bhargavaithal]

People use lime (sunna in kannada) in India

[@HMFan2010]

Similar to the white of lead, a brilliant emerald green discovered and manufactured in Victorian England, known as Scheele’s Green, was derived from arsenic. It was used in practically everything from wallpaper, fabric for clothing and décor, paint for children’s toys, and books. It wasn’t unheard of that children died from licking the bright green wallpaper in their nursery. Victoria Finlay’s “Color: A Natural History of the Palette” and Kassia St. Clair’s “The Secret Lives of Color” are both wonderful books for the artist’s quest for colored media throughout the ages. Love the evocative painting you did with your pigments!

[@Aaaaaaaalonika]

As an archaeologist and an art historian in school, I really love this video! I’d love to see you do more! Or consult a historian to try to refine your process.

[@plzletmebefrank]

Or chemist.

[@shroomyshroom4524]

@@plzletmebefrankchemist?

[@plzletmebefrank]

@@shroomyshroom4524 Yeah... For the refinement of the pigments.

[@BelindaShort]

Have you watched 'how to make anything?' he's going through the stone age through modern time

[@brissygirl4997]

​@@BelindaShort how to make everything is a good channel. I don't know if they're back up and running after their building was burned down.

[@Jack93885]

Lapis is notorious for the amount of hours needed to refine the rocks into pigment

[@marllram]

Indeed. I think the low saturation blue Jazza got is exactly how much the blue from the gem is mixed with grey of the rocks and dust that's part of the overall stone.

[@pokelolmc6826]

Lapidary hobbyist here-meaning I cut, carve and polish rocks/gemstones. The blue pigment from lapis lazuli comes primarily from one specific mineral, called "lazurite". But lapis lazuli itself is actually a metamorphic rock-it contains a variety of minerals so it's never pure lazurite. The grey/white seen in the fragments he was smashing was probably calcite (which is what limestone is made of), and you can get golden specks of pyrite as well. Depending on where/how it forms, you can also get minor traces of other common minerals as well. It's an absolute hodgepodge. The most vibrant lapis lazuli would be very high in lazurite and less grey from the other minerals. I don't know much about how the pigment was created in ancient times, but maybe it could have an effect on how the minerals in the stone were processed. Idk. But the quality of the rock would ABSOLUTELY matter. The bag of crushed up chunks he already had were definitely lower-grade/pretty dull in colour compared to what the pigment actually uses. So there might've been no way to get the kind of vibrant blue you see in the typical lapis pigment, even if he put more effort into processing the stone. That stuff would most likely be high quality-the best, bluest lapis mostly comes from Pakistan and Afghanistan (which is most likely how the ancient Mediterranean nations got it through trade). So that's probably what proper lapis-blue pigment uses. Edit: I just looked up the process of making lapis pigment and WOW. It's definitely not just grinding it into a powder and mixing it with oil-which is what Jazza did. There are a ton of other steps that result in differing grades of paint. He basically barely scratched the surface of how you make it. That's why it came out looking so pale.

[@CatfoodChronicles6737]

And for enchanting diamonds armour

[@Jullebulle1991]

We here in Sweden are known for our red cottages. The red colour is called Falu Rödfärg and has for the past 400 years been made from copper dust that has been grind down, burnt and then boiled in linseed oil. The red colour is very vibrant. It might have been a bit darker 400 years ago, but it’s very vibrant now days.

[@FranOnTheEdge]

The result of your Lapis Lazuli grinding, might not be at intense as ultramarine blue, but did you notice that it resulted in something that looked rather like "Smalt blue" which reminds me of rusty denims. I don't know why, but I REALLY LIKE Smalt Blue! So if you don't want it, you could always send it to me! Lol! I've tried a few natural colours - one of which was earth from a wood near me with slightly more Reddish... Orangy... Brownish earth than in my garden, and yes I tried turmeric powder too, plus paprika powder, blackberries, acorns, knopper galls, alder cones, pine cones, broom flowers, rose petals, alkanet, avocado, calendula, oh, anything with any colour I thought worth trying! Fun to play around with - and earned me a purple witch's hat from my husband, lol!

[@livedandletdie]

Falu Röd isn't made from copper dust... It's literally made from Burnt Limonite, which is a slag product from the copper mine, because they were mining for copper, and other minerals were left in the soil, and then they took the soil, washed it, boiled it, and burnt it. This was to remove unwanted materials, also the iron oxides turned into black pigments while the limonite turned from yellow to red. Man a lot of people doesn't understand anything about stuff yet claim to be experts on the subject... Had it been made from copper, it would've been blue or green...

[@UngodlyFreak]

@Jullebulle One correction: The Falu red is actually made of iron oxide (basically the same stuff as the red dirt in this video), not copper. Copper pigments are typically blue or green.

[@elnod]

I'm an organic/medicinal chemist, and it never ceased to amaze me what amazing colours some of the compounds I synthesised created. Many hues of purple, blue, I even got some red and yellow (and, while purifying it with a silica column, it formed the colours of the German flag).

[@Elisott]

It's genuinely one of the best feelings checking out Jazza's channel after YEARS of not browsing it and seeing how he still pushes out fun and creative content whilst still remaining as genuine, encouraging and positive as he's always been! I believe he's on the top best yt artists, knowing that his content is aimed at a fairly young audience (while still somehow remaining fun for any age really, which is so impressive to me) the fact that he encourages creativity and self-expression with such a healthy mindset is so nice to me. I remember watching his content way back when I was in middle school and wanted to be more serious at art so I kind of took his videos as inspiration! And despite his art style not being quite my cup of tea I find that the genuinity and great quality of his videos are really what makes me so fond of them

[@_.CCelestia._]

I JUST HAD THIS EXACT REACTION 😭😭😭 im so happy that he still does creative videos

[@mctwisp7175]

Same here. It's been a year or more since I last watched a Jazza video, but coming back to his channel and seeing that he's still so passionate and curious about all kinds of art forms is a comfort.

[@geomeopeoleo1740]

I don’t know if it’s the grainy paints, but the texture of the painting was really amazing. It pulls you into the scene, this is one of my favorites now. Really beautiful painting.

[@DarkestFinale]

Agreed. I couldn't stop looking at it. Would love more of this!

[@mothiestman4995]

I'm so excited for when he eventually starts doing elaborate traditional illumination or makes an entire cathedral's worth of stained glass windows by hand. Seems like a perfectly in-character escalation.

[@MTGeomancer]

That brings up an interesting idea. Jazza has experimented with numerous mediums, but has he ever done stained glass? I don't recall ever seeing a video on it.

[@LostEveryMarble]

😂😂😂 tell me you've been a fan for a very long time without telling me 😂😂😂

[@Minty1337]

@@MTGeomancer for some reason i had deja vu of him doing glass blowing, but i must be thinking of someone else on youtube glass blowing in general would certainly be fun to watch jazza do

[@a_random_confused_person7703]

@@Minty1337 Jazza did do a glass-blowing video just 3 months ago.

[@Minty1337]

@@a_random_confused_person7703 it wasn't deja vu, i knew it! lol specifically doing stained glass would still be pretty cool though

[@Auchtahelweit]

Just want to share some caution around pigment making. Some people have tried grinding down mollusc shells for pigments, however in grinding mussels to get shapes for sculptures a Canadian artist got severely sick with heavy metal poisoning and it took time to learn it was the dust from shells doing this. Shell and bone bioaccumulate heavy metals which are safely inert in their solid form but as soon as they are worked, can become a dangerous source of toxicity. Be careful about making your pigments without protection for your lungs and skin! A lot of different materials can make up stones where some could do more harm than others and overall fine particles aren’t something you want coming into contact with your lungs! This project was very cool to watch and it seems a lot of trial and error is involved to find the right combination of source materials, grind and oil to make a workable pigment. I love that you pushed on and made such a wonderful painting despite only the partial success!

[@stellazzio479]

It scares me how far down in the comments I had to look to find this. I work with gemstones and crystals for a living and I always have to tell my customers to be mindful of stones because some of them contain some really toxic minerals with Lapis Lazuli being one of them. While they’re fine in their polished form, inhaling or ingesting the dust from the powdered form can be really dangerous! So I definitely share the sentiment of safety for anyone wanting to grind up rocks into a powdered form. Wear a respirator, folks, and make sure you properly research your materials!!

[@Rain_boot]

I had just commented about this same thing! him grinding up the Lapis without any proper gear was giving me anxiety.

[@Auchtahelweit]

@@Rain_boot ​ @stellazzio479 I mean he even uses the stone as the thumbnail image so it'll grab attention. Given how many people follow his content it'd be great if he added a disclaimer around it.

[@Rain_boot]

@@Auchtahelweit He does this quite often unfortunately, so it doesn't surprise me anymore. There's been plenty of mediums he has done very little research on in the past, however it's a shame that this time could actually be dangerous considering the materials.

[@hayleywest4942]

The finished piece really captures the effort you went through for this video. It think this is one of the most creative videos I’ve seen in a while! I really enjoyed it!

[@timisme8360]

I love how you try everything! Pass or fail, it doesn't matter. And even when you have a fail, you go back and try it again to figure out how to make it pass. Your videos are just plain fun to watch. I took up painting years ago after a spinal cord injury made it impossible for me to continue with my work (construction [foundations, framing, roofing, finish carpentry] and custom furniture). The wolf and pup in my profile picture is one of my more successful pieces. I don't do it for profit. My family loves getting them for birthday and Christmas presents though. You give me a lot of inspiration.

[@TheSacredGoldsmith]

Also I make a lot of pigments from flowers in our garden, it's fun to see what flowers produce different pigments. I figured out that if the flowers still have colour when dry, they often are a good pigment. You just soak any petals in water or ethanol to see if the pigments are soluble in either solvent. Once you find a good one like purple Pelargonium here in Aus, you just soak it for a couple hours, then evaporate down to a strong extract, add linseed, mull and have an epic fine paint. Using the raw material instead of an extract yields grainy textures, so I figured out the pigment extracts are the ideal way to do it. I've made almost full spectrum now from flowers, incredibly satisfying

[@jlucas7745]

That is incredible!! (Unfortunately for me though, cause it’s winter time here so I have no flowers to try it on 😂.)🌷

[@my_username_was_already_taken]

I actually really loved the small history bits you gave us, I would love to see more like this from you in the future wherever possible!

[@justanotherpiccplayer3511]

From what I remember from a chemistry class years ago, legit lapis lazuli is really really expensive and you can tell which are the more expensive paintings not by how much gold but by how much of that rich blue is present. Apparently ultramarine is either a really weak lapis giving a lighter less rich blue or its synthetic. Idk if your stones would be legit lapis or not.

[@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen]

Jazza's stones were pretty obv. legit, but like he learned, he simply hadn't ground them fine enough. That's what made those paints so valuable: not (always) the materials involved, but the sheer effort and manhours needed to refine the raw materials into something that was actually useful.

[@Particelomen]

Lapis lazuli is a rock that contains three different minerals; lazurite - which is the blue mineral, calcite - which is white, and pyrite - which is metallic gray/soft golden. For making pigment, you'll need as much of the lazurite as possible, so I would guess that this type of lazurite-rich lapis lazuli would be more expensive than other lapis lazuli. The rocks Jazza used was very white-gray which was why he felt he needed to sort out the bluer pieces, but he should probably use a more pure lazurite in order to get a more vibrant pigment. (And grind it more finely so that the pigment actually would work...)

[@laureendavis2369]

@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen I was thinking maybe it would be a bit more successful if he used a "raw" piece of Lapis. He was using pieces that had spent probably a month in tumblers with different polishing compounds

[@justanotherpiccplayer3511]

@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen yeah that too, I reckon his were just like not v pure

[@tamagogohann]

@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen The refinement process for lapis lazuli paint is not purely just grinding it, to get the purest colour you have to mix the finely ground lapis with wax and gum and then knead that plaster for days/weeks in a bath of lye to get rid of all the impurities(minerals other than lazurite) That's also why you can get pretty cheap lapis lazuli paints but their colour will be extremely weak since they make them from low quality ground whole lapis.

[@zacharygardner2469]

Jazza is so genuine. Not everything works out how you picture it, and he includes both success and failure in these videos. It's wholesome and authentic. Love this channel, man.

[@luisesebok1742]

i also really love the art you made from it in the end, its very like the colours ifself, earthy raw and genuine

[@RevRedmondFarrier]

I have tinkered with this before. Judging from my very limited experience, it looks like you just needed to grind you pigments to a much finer powder. I used an old coffee grinder to get it as fine as I could, and then spent an excessive amount of time grinding it in small amounts in my mortar and pestle set. If you can perceive individual particles either by touch or sight, you aren't there yet. Think baby powder smooth as your starting point. I had great success with Georgia red clay (similar to your Australian red dirt.) and with charcoal and was working on the eggshell pigment when I got distracted from the project and never got back to it. lol

[@livingchaosmatrix]

I got a decently robust coffee grinder from a garage sale, and switched the motor in it for a far too strong one, the charcoal dust it makes is so fine you wouldn´t believe it.

[@keylasharp8281]

That GA red clay will stain everything!!! Not even bleach will get it outta white shoes.

[@Krystlgaming]

I guess more places then va have red clay

[@rachel_369]

I know YT doesn't push longer form content anymore. But I wanted to say I love when you make longer videos, ten minutes of Jazza just isn't enough, lol.

[@mellym3ow]

Agreed! I binge watch them all and love having them in the background while I make my own art. It's such a pity

[@mermaidnott9713]

I haven’t seen a single video from him in two years. What is up with they’re algorithm?

[@BelindaShort]

It has been pushing longer content recently

[@rachel_369]

good! when shorts first started coming out it was terrible, so many content creators were suffering.@@BelindaShort

[@dragonwyrmdracodracul8361]

So. Beetroot can be used to make a dye. And since it's a die, you can make a lake pigment (from memory it has terrible lightfastness). A lake pigment is a pigment made by dyeing a material such as chalk and then grounding up the dyed chalk to make the pigment. Also: No not all paints are synthesised now. All the natural earth pigments. Such as Ochres, Siennas, and Umbers are made from... dirt. Additionally, Michael Harding Lapis Lazuli is according to the website: "Inorganic, natural earth-This is the purest and oldest form of the Lapis Lazuli pigment, a genuine earth from Afghanistan." So no it isn't synthetic (supposedly). Synthetic lapis lazuli is called Ultramarine blue.

[@claireobrien4130]

Love this addition I definitely think there is a world of natural dyes/pigments that is not conveyed in depth in this video @trejayne does some beautiful videos on natural inks

[@syysky]

Jazza making lake pigments would be a fun video. I've seen people use alum (precipitator) and washing soda instead of chalk.

[@cobra29935]

Makes sense why you wouldn't synthesize earth colors when dirt is literally everywhere. All I need is a shovel and to walk 2 feet outside and I have more brown pigment then I could ever need.

[@kaloethina]

Yep! All of this, though most laked pigments use alum or potash to keep the colour vibrant.

[@christineg8151]

Lake pigments aren't actually just dyeing chalk to get the pigments. The colored compounds from plants are often charged compounds, and when you add chalk or calcium carbonate, there's a chemical reaction that replaces whatever ion balances that charge (often sodium or potassium) with calcium. Since most calcium compounds are not very soluble in water, the calcium salt precipitates out of solution. The carbonate that was previously bound to the calcium is still in solution, hanging out with the original cation from the colored product, and it can get rinsed away when you pour off or filter the liquid after the dye precipitates. Lake pigments are cool!

[@ORagnar]

I've been following Jazza for a long time. I remember when his account was called "Jazza Art" and you showed you how to draw things and sold his books on how to draw. Things have come a long way since then! 3

[@sabwo2976]

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[@ORagnar]

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[@EmA-oo9xk]

Jazza Art? When was that?

[@powerpuff4ever]

Don’t give up Jazza! I would really recommend watching the lapis Lazuli watercolor tutorial by Dirty Blue Tube. The binder is different of course but all of the processing instructions in the first half should still be applicable.

[@Edengar86]

Your painting at the end made me tear up, it felt really meaningful, you picked the perfect subject for your handmade medium! So many humans worked hard to make art happens since the dawn of time, It's beautiful

[@katiegrossman2338]

Fun fact! A lot of these colorant techniques are still used in ceramics for glazes! The red dirt is probably high in specifically red iron oxide and that’s typically used for reds, browns, and occasionally blacks (although manganese is more typically used for black) we usually use cobalt or copper oxide for blues, chrome oxide is a very strong green and if you mix tin in with it you’ll get some pink! I really enjoy learning more about what substances are used for both my art and other specialties!

[@goshisanniichi]

I think that for black it was common to use soot whenever it was available rather than charcoal. Even though they're both carbon, the soot is generally easier to get into a really fine powder. For a next step in this 'journey' it would be cool to see if you can find an historian or some other expert who knows about ancient methods of making pigments and try again with their help or, at least, after consulting them.

[@TheJcris87]

They used slate and coal as well as burnt bones to make black paints for hundreds of years.

[@Nagromthewhite]

Here are some songs in the video for those who want to know. 6:26 The Goths by Bonnie Grace 8:06 Highland Hymn by Bonnie Grace

[@BJDLove]

Ah!!!! I’m SO HAPPY you finally did this!!! I absolutely adore making things from the literal basics in historical ways. It’s so wonderful and just really helps you understand your art materials all the better.

[@annettefournier9655]

And this is why the apprentices ground the pigments: day after day, after day, after day, for a week and then all over again. Wonderful subject for your primative paints! Bravo!

[@kathymarshall220]

I genuinely love these kinds of videos, where the emphasis is on the processes and the history and the joyous experimentation of art ❤ they really dig down to that kindred spirit of creativity that has been a part of us since we first stood on two legs and started using tools 😊

[@ichthyovenator3351]

For a super chaotic Jazza video, this was actually a very good look at art history. I genuinely didn’t know Sienna and Umbria were places. Love these experimental videos. You should’ve worn your lab coat!

[@bubbleshock14]

That final piece is absolutely incredible

[@mariahmanahan4481]

He gets so down on himself, which I relate to from being a perfectionist, then pulls off this amazingly beautiful piece of art that blows me away. He truly is THE artist! Love you Jazza!

[@angie2point0]

Thank you for all of your fun experiments, Jazza. It reminds me that I shouldn't be afraid to fail!

[@farhamabbasi2325]

yes

[@ionzmr685]

How did you comment 7 hours before he posted 💀

[@whuuuut2035]

@@ionzmr685 That's what I wanna know, lol, maybe this was one of those patreon/members first videos?

[@LostEveryMarble]

Final piece is amazing! Could have been soooo muddy with all the brown tones, but you crushed the light and shadow! Good job!!

[@fredforever71]

I love that painting, the fact that it's made like that, and the history of the image, awesome! As always Jazza❤

[@adelheidbekaert5972]

I agree. I didn't think he would be able to make anything out of these paints and then he ends up with this masterpiece, appropriately themed. That is how you recognize the really creative ones. They can make anything out of almost nothing.

[@SapavemLasae]

You should try making homemade charcoal sticks for art. It's pretty simple. I always collected sticks that fell from our willow tree, let them dry, and then stuffed them in an airtight metal container and put them in our wood burnig stove. You could also sit them in the coals of a fire. But I really enjoy the charcoal you can make vs the stuff in stores for softer artworks. You can chance up what wood you use too. But this was cool to watch! The Navajo hand dye their wool for rugs so they have a lot of different natural sources for dye that you could also look at to expand on some of the pigments.

[@TheBananaApproaches]

Honestly, I think there is a place for the coarser, sandier paints! They could create some awesome textures for paintings, especially fantasy or sci fi!👏

[@henrico09091]

I just love how jazza is so funny and creative at the same time. The way he always makes me smile is amazing

[@lowiekey]

That end result is low-key one of the best I've seen in a while! I'm blown away honestly!

[@MoonfireXD]

i'm a little surprised that it wasnt mentioned in the video and in my brief scroll i didnt see it in the comments either but the colours you were able to successfully recreate were just about the colours of the indigenous flag. red earth, yellow, and black. likely also the colours that would've been easiest to come by as an ancient australian too. though, uh, with your comment about the mango cows its possible that the yellow back then also came from urine rather than tumeric... but still an interesting thing to note, imo. the final painting looked awesome! very meta to make a painting of people cave painting out of paints made in traditional style lol

[@xxBadwolfxx]

This is genuinely really cool to see! It's easy to take for granted the range and vibrancy of the colours that are accessible today, and super interesting to see what artists had to work with historically. Reminds me a bit of one time in uni where I painted a still life with just different kinds of tea for my colours, haha. Makes me want to experiment with getting colours from unusual sources again!

[@ZephariusBe]

Your channel never fails to be inspiring! I just got your bundles for bodies and faces and started working in them. I'm struggling a lot with understanding how the face method works. But if you can make your own homemade paints and power through to make a great painting even if the results of your paint weren't what you hoped for, then by gosh I can push through and continue studying to try and make sense of how to do the circle method for faces.

[@danielraiber3639]

You know, just like the chocolate sculpting, it does not matter if you succeed or epically fail, the fact that you try something new to show us week after week after week, that is a win in my eyes. I love it. And as a team, we win or lose together, but either way, we learn from it

[@tolido20]

Daniel Smith has watercolor paints with actual gemstones in it (including lapis lazuli). It’s their genuine series

[@UrsulaDaSeaWishh]

OMG PLEASE do another vid like this, I love ancient history and I yelled “ooooh!” out loud when u saw the title of this one. And I LOVE the painting at the end, prehistory is so rad

[@RinnzuRosendale]

That artwork at the end is very moving. I really love the tribute of painting ancestors with the paint they would of used.

[@lukewatson.3917]

Dude you're a friekin legend for doing this. Only seeing someone doing this insane level of work to achieve this colour could even begin to impress upon us 21st century folk how much work used to go into it. Incredible!

[@astralshore]

Painting looks really cool. Shows that it’s all about the artist and not about the materials.

[@evilmissmunchkin]

I’m so curious if any paint makers have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this process. I’m so impressed with your results for your first time doing this though and I really want to see more!

[@MattsProductions]

(Not a paint maker but a chemist) one of the things he couldve done us he couldve gotten a rock tumbler to make them extra powdery, also he used the wrong types of dirt, some australian dirt is really red and its actually iron minerals in the dirt, also for the blues he couldve used copper sulfate or copper carbonate which are also known as azurite and malachite which way more people used for the blue/teal colour

[@TheMightyOmega-NotTheAlpha]

Paint chemist here, the pigments themselves (aside from the beetroot which isn’t really a pigment) aren’t so much the problem, he really needed to grind things much finer. You can’t really make paints of the type we are used to by using hand tools like a mortar. You need to mill the pigments much finer. A ball mill might have worked.

[@deltahillcreative]

I'm nowhere near a professional paint maker, but have learned a few things in the area. Most notable being, the makeing reasonable pigments and paint requires multiple, lengthy steps. Definitely not something that can be rushed. Jazza has given us the quick version which covers the basics. AND he's still managed to create a brilliant painting with his results. But he's also shown us that it's not easy and the quality of the paint you end up with, reflects the time you allow the process. Crushing and grinding the materials will obviously create pigment. But if you want smooth paint, you need to levigate your crushed materials to get rid of impurities, separate the settled sludge from the coloured water, then dry the sludge material to grind and levigate again. How many times you do this depends on the hardness of the material and desired pigment colour. With materials like lapis lazuli, each levigation and reduction creates a different shade of blue. After levigation, the coloured water needs to be mixed with a binder such as gum arabic, in order to create the paint and the remaining sludge, once dried, can be ground into powder and then mulled with a binder. Again, the mulling process needs to be done thoroughly, multiple times to reduce any remaining grittiness. Now it is smooth, you can either use as is right away, put your paste into watercolour palettes to dry and use as watercolours, or add your linseed oil to make oil paint. All I know for sure is, I agree with Jazza when he says how lucky we are to have access to the paint and colours we do today. I doubt I'd have had the patience to go through all of this just to paint a picture back then. And can you imagine how awful a lot of the paints must have smelled?? No thanks! 😂

[@316dyestudio]

Professional dyer here. I just started my natural dye journey about a year ago (although I've been dyeing for almost a decade), and have been researching using natural plants and food waste to make artist pigments. I'm not too familiar with using earth pigments, but there are great resources on laking your own plant pigments to obtain artist quality paints. Alizarin crimson comes from laking madder root and Mayan Blue from indigo. Essentially, the color needs to be extracted from the plant material by heating the raw materials in a pot with water, then straining the raw materials out after the dye has been extracted. The dye is then laked with a mordant (usually alum) and precipitator (soda ash) to make the pigment insoluble and sink to the bottom. Everything is then filtered through a coffee filter and dried. Once completely dried, the pigment can be mixed with a binder to create pastels, watercolor or other paints. Thanks so much for the video, and I hope you continue to experiment with using natural pigments!!

[@bambiraptor9]

Thanks for sharing your process! 😊

[@martjanamoon1785]

i really like the educational bits in this video! and the end reslut turned out way better than i expected, good job!

[@daniellemmon7793]

100% Awesome!!!!! You took dirt and charcoal and turned them into a masterpiece. If you need another challenge, there is an artist on KZbin who spreads hot glue on canvas and carves a picture out of it. I know you enjoy melting, burning, and carving things into fun Jazza art, so hopefully, this is up your alley. I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! Many thanks for the video, and I'll watch you next time.

[@TheaterGeek2007]

Years ago, more than I care to fess up to...I was doing a project for school about the history of art. My teacher actually bought me a kit so I could demonstrate how ancient peoples used to make their inks and paints. It was, and still is my favorite project I've ever done for school.

[@AdityaSharma-l2q]

the stick turning into charcoal was hilarious

[@zmythos]

It was such a seamlessly edited transition he literally had me fooled for a second lol

[@Eovielle]

Love this sort of content, where we get some historic background about paints and art. Please more of that! Great video!

[@Roni_Rosetta_Blackwood]

18:50 Be DAM happy - every Percy Jackson fan (only Percy Jackson fans will understand)

[@idostuff1785]

I forgot about the DAM 😭

[@jonathantopscher2901]

That piece at the end was truly stunning. You're awesome.

[@jammmmas]

I’ve been following you for literally my entire childhood and it has been amazing to see you grow into this incredible and crazy arty party! Love you man ❤

[@DJJeannotD]

I immediately have concerns when crushing gemstones, as the dust that can be carried on the air and toxic if ingested. When you buy crushed ones there's usually a warning on them. That's why shop bought are tumbled and polished. Also Lapis lazuli is a kind of sodalite, but it includes pyrite - the gold flecks (dangerous when heated) - and calcite - white and hard to separate. It's hard to refine it beyond sand, as sand is tiny rocks. My instinct would be a chemical reaction to get blue before gemstones, but only cus I like chemistry.

[@Rain_boot]

I commented about this same exact thing! just replying to boost this message, as well.

[@hybridgoth]

Technically... lapis lazuli is a rock, sodalite is a mineral, rocks are made up of multiple minerals, so, lapis is not a type of sodalite. Whilst it's true that there are sodalite-group minerals in lapis lazuli these being 'lazurite and hauyne', the mineral sodalite isn't responsible for the blue colour of the pigment. The mineral sodalite streaks white, and, when powdered is white, whereas the sulfide rich end-members of the sodalite mineral group 'lazurite and hauyne' create blue streaks, and, when powdered are blue. Lazurite generally creates a richer blue colour than hauyne when powdered due to a higher concentration of sulfates. P.S. Sand is granular particulate matter of either rock, mineral, or, mineraloid material and often includes biominerals like shell, bone etc.

[@itswadever]

Lapis lazuli was one of- if not the- first sources of blue pigment. It definitely works 😅. But you're very right on protecting the lungs. If he took it any finer he definitely would've needed respiratory protection.

[@Vickie-Bligh]

Your final art piece was amazing!

[@iunabeam]

I've noticed in other people's videos who try making their own pigment that some do more processing on the dry pigments before mixing it with the art medium (oil, gum arabic, etc) to get the pigments smaller. Some have taken the pigments at the powder level you had them at, mixed in a little water and ground it out with the pestle, then filtered again to get the pigments separated further (fine vs extra fine). Good job on the ones you did in this video. :-)

[@hananiatacorelis2152]

Your final paonting is awsome. Way batter than I expected after seeing the Pigments. And og course quite fitting themewise!^^

[@SBChaevok]

Using stones like Lapis, etc have a much more laborious process to actually leech out the pigment and get rid of the grainy texture "finely ground source material like Lapis with mastic, linseed oil and wax to make a 'plastic' which is then laboriously kneaded over days and weeks in a bath of lye in order to leech off the pure lazurite particles"

[@jazzbazz6945]

I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO MAKE MY OWN PAINTS LIKE THIS

[@fasfan]

I wonder if your actual talent is underappreciated because of the surrounding silliness. Im not an artist myself. I used to draw a lot when i was younger but nothing exciting. I have watched you create works of art from all sorts of disciplines. Genuinely good art. Like inwas a good photographer but i couldnt draw or sculpt. You are creating wonderful works of art from junk. Seriously.. in this video you took only 3 barely passable oil paints and created a Genuinely good artwork. That takes talent. Well done you.

[@LordBloodySoul]

That's super cool. Next, you should try the more vegetation pigments and paints. So making them from flowers and plants! :D

[@jennycrossman6567]

What a painting and what a journey!!! Feel so blessed to have paints that we can grab and go and not spend hours on making the smallest amount

[@1337million]

I find the way we've always tried to make colors so interesting. I remember when I studied art at university in the textile workshop we were working with wool and our instructor told us about how the vikings would dye their wool blue, and how they made the dye itself. They picked the leaves off of woad herbs, dried them up and cut them up, then they would put them in pots filled with urine and let it ferment for a few months and the end result was blue dye! I wonder how they came up with this specific process

[@johnmichaelrutherford3514]

if i had to guess maybe a happy accident, it wouldn't surprise me at all or even just them desperately looking for a more readily available source of blue pigment.

[@Erikaahh_Mae]

Honestly I loved this video so much as I love learning about things and hearing how some of these colours came about that I didn't know about was really cool thanks jazza! It adds onto my knowledge as well of some of the chemicals used in households e.g. in the Victorian era arsenic was used a lot in paint as well before that also got banned for obvious reasons... haha Edit: actually this video reminds me about another video youtuber Raedizzle did about rare paints a few years ago!

[@howitzer551]

As far as the whole Tyrian Purple thing goes, not that long ago I saw a video on a guy reviving it in Tunisia. One of the interesting things I learned from the video is it isn't actually one color. There are a couple different types of Murex snails in the Mediterranean(I think 5) and each one makes a different pigment and you can obviously mix the pigments to get new colors. I believe he said the most common version from ancient times is a pretty even mix of all the different types and that was that standard color we think of as Tyrian Purple, though with all the stuff that goes into it had some variation.

[@316dyestudio]

I saw that same video! It was a Business Insider video on Tyrian Purple and why it's so expensive.

[@howitzer551]

@@316dyestudio Yes I believe it was. I also like how involved the artist was with harvesting laws and environmental stuff because he is acutely aware that if climate change or overfishing kills off too many snails he is screwed.

[@BarkyBuffoonery]

5:24 “I wouldn’t do that I’m authentic” as he buys the yellow pigment😂

[@L1ly_Panda]

😂 The way he said: “Fancy!” 9:33

[@DjackHerRrer]

A video where you try to create your own paper would be quite interesting

[@Goggled_vr]

jazza i luv ur videos keep up the great content

[@azuliakitten9197]

“I love this paint! Where did you get it?” “Dirt.”

[@jiasalar3619]

Such a genius Mashallah, no matter what jazza's final art is always a master piece whether it's a crappy texture paint or literal trash the final result is always a master piece

[@annemariequick2730]

The final piece is AMAZING! A true artist, wow!

[@lil_chubbz_333]

hi jazza your probably not gonna see this but you and your videos have changed my life in art and in genaral thank you for posting

[@gabriellacunza1585]

Fun fact!, a dehydrator would have worked with the beetroot

[@iniyama]

honest question: did they not know much about mixing colours back then? assuming blue and red pigments were cheaper than purple, would it not make sense to mix those? i guess the results wouldn't be exactly the same but still 😅 edit: 16:28 I guess that answers my question 😂

[@averageeughenjoyer6429]

Everything Nobility had was made without practicality in mind

[@iniyama]

@@averageeughenjoyer6429 oh you're right, didn't really think of that 😅

[@KCasper-qm2wm]

They can, but a better more politicl answer lies in another comment. Someone said that the smell of the traditional ingredients like snails and fish and bugs were said to lend to its nobility, so you could if you got the right chemical makeup but no one would be fooled when you open the bottle

[@taylorb8609]

Jazza! You should include more history lessons in your videos. I find it interesting to learn the history of the artistic process

[@cyanerain]

I actually just came across a tiktok of someone making lapis lazuli into a pigment, and it took days or weeks. It's a while process. I think you did an amazing job with very little knowledge, and in the time frame you did it in.

[@Rain_boot]

⚠I have heard somewhere that grinding up Lapis Lazuli could actually be really harmful if ingested. So please be careful and do your own research before thinking about trying this at home, just for your own sake💖⚠

[@Jas8153]

Wear a mask😀😷

[@Sniper_Jacob06]

"Unga Bunga, I Made Paint!"

[@rjtopper68]

I think for an "off the cuff" attempt at making paint, you were spot on. Remembering that this was also similar to "their" first attempt also. then through years of attempts and improvements you get what we have today. Plus, this was probably their whole life where they had nothing better to do than sit around and grind stone into powder. I say it was a success.

[@Esther-rehtsE]

Wow!! That is really great, both the paint-making and the painting. I think it is super you do all these things. It's interesting, I love it. Thank you Jazza💜💜💜💜

[@ikeokeke1759]

I’ve always been so interested in this and I’m so happy to see someone care about it