I promise, this video belongs here

[@Symphonicrockfran]

This guy hacked the algorithm just to tell us how the algorithm sucks. He's a genius.

[@SkyCloudSilence]

lol

[@dexooh]

He was showing youtube logo a lot, maybe youtube machine learning picks it up and then marks it as "good video"

[@RealTestikills]

Hahaha I thought the same thing. He knows how whack KZbin is so we'll, that he showed in our feeds and started with "you probably have no idea who I am and why my video was recommended to you" His right though, it's fantastic small channels are being recommended, I've said that to a few people. I reckon the algorithm is just so complex the code needs to be tweaked

[@ddljunkygames7654]

Ikr? The other videos come not even close to this amount of views

[@multishit6664]

he works for the shadow government

[@moraalli]

I want KZbin to recognize that just because I engage with travel content, it doesn’t mean I no longer want to see video essays and cooking videos. It’s like the algorithm thinks you can’t have more than one interest at the same time.

[@CaseyShontz]

Interesting, I thought it was just my watching habits that caused that effect because I do tend to focus on one thing at a time but maybe it’s a KZbin thing too

[@Star_Rattler]

XD for real, even autistic people (as I am) have more than just one single interest lol it's like i look up a single video about sleep ambiance and my whole feed now is just riddled with sleep bowls and meditation stuff like STOP bro omg. i watch an ann rearden video and all my stuff is now cooking. relax a little bit!

[@whatwouldsallydo]

instagram has this issue too and it annoys the hell out of me

[@Pink_Woz]

YES!! The only time I actually get the videos I want is if I'm on a channel dedicated to just one thing. 2 at the most. If you're interested in more than 1-2 things, KZbin just stops working and video vomits at you.

[@louiseb3146]

It's odd because I have so many interests and YT does recommend me a little of them all. But, unlike you, I can switch from space actuality to let's play on Nintendo games to video essay about sociology, or series review and analysis, back to space science and all of this within an hour or even less. So I do hope that YT gives me several recommendations, even of games I never heard about or about a science I haven't studied yet. Though, I admit I regularly have to actively search for the kind of content I feel like watching. It's only natural though, algorithms can't know what I have in mind right now. Lucky me!

[@faydimbleby]

One of my main issues with KZbin more recently is that I'm scared to click on a random video that interests me, because then it will be all I'm recommended for weeks.

[@MrCheswickMusic]

Ha ha, whatever you do, DO NOT click on a 'funny/cute animals' vid, or you'll be doomed for all eternity with vids of that topic ha ha

[@Friend_2162]

That's why I had to create sub channel for music listening. Luckily it's so easy to switch subchannels by clicking top right corner.

[@philipw5669]

Oh it's so true. . .

[@Omnibushido-]

Yeah I searched fantasy music playlists for when I’m reading or going to sleep and now almost every video in my recommended is just that. Same with scam-baiting videos, I watch tons of other things but when I started getting back into them they were taking up my recommended after only watching a couple of them.

[@sperrinwell-beingandyoga9224]

Add an account!

[@LyxiLynnn]

This is only getting worse over time too. I feel like especially lately I've been spending more time scrolling on YT than watching videos. Getting the same recommendations, seeing things I've already watched (but without showing it??), and lately getting a lot of videos with a max of 100 views with bad quality content. I enjoy the low-stakes variety that comes with YT, I don't really like watching shows or movies as much. Not sure what to do at this point. (yes I searched this video cuz it was getting that bad and to make sure im not crazy)

[@MikuHatsune159]

I feel the same way about this site now. I used to have real variety and it had helped me be more creative and learn more actively than I am now. I still love YT for content over any other platform but a lot of the good OG content is no longer correct or acceptable. Caused me to scroll for good videos, but it's a habit I have from years of being able to find new interesting content in a space where that doesn't even happen anymore. Like have you refreshed the page and it only rearranges the recommendations slightly? Honestly it's infuriating what it has become 😒

[@Shteven]

"Do not recommend." "Not interested." "Do not recommend." "Do not recommend." "Not interested." *Refresh* See's the exact same videos.

[@thenamesmimic7338]

I have literally never seen this man before in my life but he's spitting straight fire facts.

[@LittleMopeHead]

Same.

[@BlackShiftification]

I am crazy though

[@1mailpigeon1]

i never saw this man before, until KZbin decided to put him on my front page as a recommended video. (I am thankful for it and watched a couple of his videos, it's interesting fun content, thanks KZbin, you did something right for once👍🏻)

[@TheBanana93]

The algorithm has summoned us all here and here we are.... is the algorithm god? (Pls don't respond like I am being serious)

[@grenade8572]

Saaame.

[@commander-fox-q7573]

Personally the worst aspect of it for me is that sometimes you’ll find one of these random videos interesting so you watch that one video and then suddenly for ages the algorithm thinks that niche is your favourite thing and will fill your entire page with similar videos even if you never click on them and aren’t still interested in the subjects or content types

[@andrewhkim]

Yea it’s usually viral type videos that almost anyone would be curious about. But it’s like rubbernecking an accident.. of course you want to look, but realize that if you force yourself to look forward, you’ll waste less time on something irrelevant. All you can do now is delete it from your watch history

[@lh776]

yeah i've had the same issue at times

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

Agreed!

[@L1ght_7]

A few days ago, I watched a KZbinr who was reviewing 3 games in my favorite video game franchise across 3 separate videos. I didn’t watch any other videos by this KZbinr, and I was only interested in watching them because they were about a niche game franchise that I love. Yesterday I counted ELEVEN videos in a row unrelated to that franchise by that same creator in my recommended videos on the side of another video completely unrelated to that creator or that game franchise. I would understand if it was one or two videos spread out to try to gauge if my interest in that channel is more than just that one game franchise, but 11 videos in a row is insane. KZbin really needs to fix their algorithm…

[@justathumb]

what's particularly baffling and distressing to me, is that i can manually select videos i DON'T want youtube to show me, submitting the reason "I DONT LIKE THIS VIDEO" and i KEEP getting videos on the same topic! (ie serial child killer news pieces). it's legit traumatising to see those headlines. yet creators can't say certain generic words or they get demonetized. their algorithms are fucking appalling.

[@RedPandaNinja6886]

Explains why KZbin has felt so bland to me lately. I open it, see a bunch of content I don’t really care about, and give up. It feels like a chore to watch KZbin now more than ever. Not to even mention the terrible search function. All these content platforms keep sterilizing themselves to be more marketable and it’s ruining them. On the bright side, this social media apocalypse is making me want to pick up a book instead for once.

[@JP-ve7or]

Choose the book. I'm trying too.

[@effbar2400]

It's because you're not interested not some platform wide issue

[@paulyvii]

The search function isn't even giving me results of the words I actually searched. I just get my recommended videos which have nothing to do with the search

[@James.s]

Completely in the same place.

[@FUEGOSTARR]

@@effbar2400it’s def a user wide problem if it isn’t a platform centered problem. But many people say these things so I don’t think it’s limited to tht individual

[@vescenti]

I'm definitely experiencing this. It also seems like youtube's "memory" is getting bad; I have watched a large variety of content, predominately targeted towards young people. Recently, though, I've been watching a few embroidery and sewing videos. KZbin seems to have forgotten everything about me and mistaken me for an elderly lady! a few videos out of the ordinary and know I can't find anything else I'm in to. And I'm getting ads for makeup that look good on wrinkly skin (so old people), even though I'm a teenager!

[@kitKAT._]

Getting ads on wrinkly skin is CRAZY

[@derrickthewhite1]

I've recently noticed youtube isn't tracking my Account and my Wife's separately... I'm getting her favorite channels recommended, and she's getting mine. Also, I get ads based on what she's been shopping for. Some people might think that's creepy, but I'm just annoyed at the usability impact: If I want to watch that stuff, I'll log in with my wife and we'll watch it together. Save the screen space!

[@hazeldavis3176]

I'm getting the reverse. I started watching one younger creator and now everything I'm recommended is for teens/young adults. I don't need clubbing outfits ffs I'm *literally ancient*! If I show up in the club, something has gone horribly wrong

[@awkward_gravity]

I'm so tired of apps trying to be like other apps. I don't want shorts from KZbin. I want KZbin from KZbin, if I want TikTok then I want TikTok. Keeping it separately encourages me to use each app MORE because they're DIFFERENT. I don't want to go everywhere and see the same thing. I'm glad I came across this video, this makes so much sense now.

[@theprodigalson4003]

Yeah it’s annoying. It’s become especially cancerous this year and a bit and I just want to drop it all more than I ever have

[@davidthedeaf]

Agreed. They are teenagers with identity crisis, and all wanting to become like each other when they are perfectly fine who they are.

[@_98310]

but for the sake of storage, i think it's better for it to be all in one app...

[@scaper8]

Therein lie the rub, though. You and I may want different apps for different things, but companies want you on their things forever. KZbin wants you on KZbin and nothing else (or, barring that, at least some other product owned by daddy Google). TikTok wants you only on TikTok. Facebook only on Facebook. Unfortunately, viewers and creators are diametrically opposed to companies on this front.

[@panda42433]

exactly!

[@matthewmcwane9569]

The only part of KZbin’s algorithm that I hate is that when I’m watching a video, the recommended videos underneath it are now completely UNRELATED to the video that I’m watching, and those videos are basically the exact same videos I would just see in my home feed

[@Seilah789]

OR they recommend stuff you’ve already seen???

[@mei1568]

I usually use KZbin for work and my content basically should relate to that as I'm keeping myself more productive engaging with such content everyday even for a bit. BUT the only exception of "unrelated" content under videos that I watch is honestly... Cats lol. Short, uplifting and no pressure 😂

[@Rose_Haw]

Absolutely! Now it's way more hard to find the next episode of a let's play series so it's basically mandatory to find the playlist. And similarly if I want more videos from the channel I'm watching they won't be recommended if they aren't a large channel.

[@matthewmcwane9569]

@@Rose_Haw exactly

[@WingedAsarath]

Just speculation, but I wonder if that change was made to stop people going down some of the conspiracy theory or far-right rabbit holes that used to be a huge problem. I remember there being a lot of concerns that the recommendeds would skew people deeper and deeper down these dark places and it was doing a lot of damage.

[@Silly_Billy20]

i thought i was crazy at first. now i know otherwise. im glad some small channels are recommended to me though cause i found two people who deserve way more support.

[@hollanderson]

I've recently been recommended some travel videos from some aunties and picture collages from older folks, and honestly it's way better than what I was watching before 😂

[@ofskittlez]

Crazy? I was crazy once.

[@Icyy4406]

​@@ofskittlezCrazy? I was crazy once. They put me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy.

[@MarioKevin-o1d]

They locked me in a rubber room. Rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy

[@HExtraordinaire]

Fr, KZbin's been recommending me some interesting channels recently. A couple of days ago it recommended me two gay furry let's players. Honestly, pretty good channel

[@arihantkumbhat8066]

I actually searched why KZbin is getting boring and I got your video, whatever points you mentioned are absolutely relatable and correct!

[@rimshasheikh9935]

Sammmmeww

[@PreceptorLive]

same.

[@shuvamchakravorty7420]

Similar

[@splashlyy]

I serious can't believe that more people aren't talking about this. Not only do youtube recommendations suck but google results are all screwed up now too and i feel like NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT

[@River_YT]

Yep google is absolute trash now unless the result you're looking for is one of the top 3 or 4 results.... It's crazy

[@splashlyy]

@@River_YT and no one is talking about it. I literally can’t find most of the things I look for now and most other search engines just mirror google Please turn it back

[@saalok]

People talk about it and KZbin ignores them. They have done it with ads, with dislikes and now with a shitty system. The issues is that the latter might actually be a change that actively hurts them as it will probably decrease time within the platform

[@KekeeBlack]

@@strange-universeI thought they had to at least go off of some sort of research.

[@splashlyy]

@@strange-universe lol that’s called gaslighting

[@Tokechan]

Another thing the algorithm is doing that annoys me a little is it only shows me stuff I've been into recently. I tend to go through phases, so it'd be nice if it at least factored overall watch history in a bit instead of just assuming my latest interest is now my only interest forever until I manually search out other things I like again/specifically choose from my subscribed tab.

[@Squidveemo]

I know right, every time I watch something I usually don't watch half my recommendations are suddenly filled with adjacent content.

[@johnkelly7757]

I simply "remind" youtube of my former preference by searching for my former favorite vid's and calling them up for viewing. It usually takes a few times before the algorithm gets the hint.

[@jm6734]

Yes! This is sooo f* annoying. Like we’ve all turned into one track minded cyclops

[@tulip5210]

MOOOOOOOD

[@hitsugatatsuro9978]

Exactly! All those channels I subbed to and been meaning to go back to but don't remember the name of are just... gone forever, until my peabrain remembers one of their old videos and finds them again based on that.

[@valentynacubillos8697]

I knew I wasn't crazy and finding something interesting in KZbin was being a massive struggle

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

This Gentleman man says He wants to be suggested to people in the same space as him. For Me if want to find small or new music production channels just do targeted search select Release date as Today, and there you go you will find every new producer's channel that exists. I think people need to use there brains.

[@makalayoung580]

I have no idea why this was recommended but I agree. The search not letting me strictly search the subject is honestly infuriating and has our family thinking of cancel our KZbin premium plan. KZbin has been getting worse since around 2017, I remember they changed the home page and the way subscriptions work and how they show content. I am super sad, wish things would get back to the way they were when KZbin was in its earlier years

[@Mogswamp]

I thought it was just me, because I always click them out of curiosity. I figured it just knew I had that behavior, not that it was doing this for everyone.

[@caspermadlener4191]

I have the same curiosity towards these random videos, and I think the same hold for most people. But a lot of videos about a "niche", aren't designed with new viewers in mind, so I usually click away within a minute.

[@TisOsha]

same dude, so tired ofa b1 droid singing being recommended to me, i dont care at all mate

[@SomeDudeCauseYes]

Yea i have corusiority so i click random vids

[@wato.o]

wsg mogswamp

[@flamingaish]

same here

[@blossom357]

Actually, I'm frustrated with KZbin more for the opposite reason... it is VERY difficult to break out of any sort of echo chamber you've knowingly or unknowingly created for yourself.

[@pieflower6419]

Agreed. I found a new interest, watched that and only that on KZbin for a few weeks, and now I'm barely recommended anything else and literally have to search generic terms to find broader content.

[@c.edwards4457]

Searches 1 video about a motorcycle. Now every short an recommended something with motorcycle

[@ARCHIVED9610]

yes!!

[@elmemearana]

​@Doomvega this kinda happens to me, sometimes lol

[@rylie4122]

Me and smosh videos rn

[@SarahSuperFox]

I completely agree. KZbin has become constraining and instead of feeling free to explore content I’m actually interested in, I’m seeing only a small selection of what KZbin thinks I like. Very annoying.

[@victorsamsung2921]

Not to forget, getting the MSM shoved in your face, like with videos from CNN, NBC, FOX or HuffPo getting pushed on top, but the *independent* voices and independent smaller news channels getting almost *no* fraction or exposure when searching.

[@candaniel]

@@eternity8811 Did you even watch the video..? The search results suck

[@MrMarinus18]

It's why I think giving capitalists unchecked power over such an important piece of media is a really bad idea. I think there should be government regulations by the EU and US to set standards, improve transparancy and maybe combat some of the bad incentives. The important thing though is that they need to be regulations for youtube, not for youtube users.

[@gamerboyofficalyt]

it's true you try to find one thing and then it gives a million other things not even relevant to what you're trying to find

[@ambulocetusnatans]

I was thinking of getting KZbin Premium, but I think I'll get Nebula instead.

[@tinkerlynch5276]

My biggest beef right now is keeping the videos or programs I've watched reposted WITHOUT the red line under them to show I've already watched them !!! If it's within the last month I can usually remember I've watched them. I find it extremely frustrating and a waste of my time !!! As for watching YOUR video, I specifically watched it in hopes you would be a legit source of information and was not disappointed. I am 70 years old, consider myself computer literate, and watch a lot of videos on new trends, subject matter, and interest of the younger people to help me understand their generational culture and give me a better understanding of conversations I have with neighbor kids, great grand nephews/nieces, etc. I realize my age group isn't your target range, but your posts do help tremendously in understanding younger minds, their slang, abbreviations, etc. Thanks so much.

[@sgtjonzo]

you're a legend, thank you

[@ivandeus]

Just go and delete your watch history. Algorithm will forget everything about you. You will start life from scratch 😊

[@coryjohnson2486]

Yes!! I honestly feel like the only way you can keep up with young people these days is through SOME kind of Social Media. I’m only 37, but I’m already “old” and falling behind 😂. It’s not like I really care to be “young and hip,” but it’s nice to keep up with the culture a little bit and at least know what’s going on with younger people.

[@zandikaa]

KZbin just feels stagnant. I feel like I can't actually find new things because it either recommends things I've already seen, people I'm subscribed to that I'll watch anyway, or stuff that is completely irrelevant to my interests. No matter what it just feels like I'm going in a loop. For context of how I got here though, I'm pretty sure I was recommended this because I always watch similar videos. So even with this, youtube still isn't giving me new things to explore that would broaden what I find interesting.

[@Casocki]

I've been having the same problem. I've been trying to use the "New to You" tab to find new content, but the option to go there doesn't even reliably show up on mobile, and when it does the feed is never more than 20 videos.

[@jessies.4589]

You described the main problem perfectly

[@plaguepug2091]

And the default shit they give people to explore is NOT IT at all.

[@prestonjones8672]

My problem is that it seems to mainly recommend content you’ve watched very recently. For example if I binge watched KZbin videos about movies for an entire month I’d only be getting recommendations about movie videos or random stuff I’m not interested in. Then let’s say I watch videos about dogs for one week and take a break from movie content, it will then act like it completely forgot I like movie content or any of the movie people I subscribed to and just start only recommending me dog videos. It’s annoying because it seems to want to keep you on a loop of just watching the same content you are watching continuously. Then you get on a KZbin and just see the same videos and type of videos over and over when KZbin used to frequently show you topics you used to watch to see if you wanted to start watching them again or show you people you’re subscribed to but haven’t watched in a while. It seems like you’re cut off from everything now other than what you’re currently watching and seemingly completely random videos you’ve never showed interest in. Used to id get on KZbin see someone I haven’t watched in a while and say “oh yeah I need to start watching them again”. Now that never happens unless I happen to remember them or scroll all the way through my subscribed list.

[@joeywin42]

I found a good solution is to have an alt account and just watch some of the videos that you normally watch. Usually the reccomendation after a bit is a bit spicy. Igcognito also works pretty well.

[@Runix1]

One thing I really hate, is how the algorithm tries to force short-form videos down my throat. I rarely watch anything less than 20 min, but it keeps recommending shorts and 2 min videos.

[@chillarypuff]

YES AGREE!!!!

[@FUEGOSTARR]

This! Then when u give in to them harassing us to watch shorts, they repeat the same shit in specific loops.

[@PeefAndMerf]

Hmmm, I'm the opposite, I get mad if the video is more than 15 minutes lol. Interesting to see the opposite side of the spectrum.

[@logo315]

Yes! I’m trying to find something interesting and educationalish to put on while I do chores or something similar to keep my interest but recently it’s been like 9 min videos than I have to jump to another ruining my flow

[@aabe4327]

I agree so much with this. Most of the channels I used to enjoy the most have shut down, cause the algorithm didn't like them doing slow paced 40+ min long videos, so they got pushed down and were never shown on the homepage. Some of them I only found out they were shut down, after actively going looking for them, finding that they kept posting videos that I never got to see and in the end they gave up the fight and shut down. it is so frustrating. And Instagram is doing the same shit, shoving "Reels" down my throat instead of showing me what I have told them time and time again that I want to see. And since what i post the most are black and white ink drawings, I don't tick any of the "cool" boxes for vibrant colours or reel content, so my subscribers don't even see what I post.

[@player_none]

One of the most annoying things I’ve come across lately is the ridiculous word censorship that’s getting channels flagged. It’s honestly getting out of hand. Creators now have to say “unalived” or “deleted” instead of “murdered” or committed “suicide”. Changing the agreed upon word doesn’t change the meaning. If we can’t have a conversation with “scary” words in them that, often times are blocked without any context, it really takes the value out of the content.

[@hovhadovah]

I'm unalive 💀

[@interiot2]

Some of those word-alternates started on TikTok to evade automated censors, but then they became a legitimate part of the lexicon across the web.

[@haroldnecmann7040]

@@hovhadovah how do u bleach ur skeleton? Its pearly white 🤤

[@haroldnecmann7040]

@@hovhadovah go touch wheat u bubonic plague

[@effbar2400]

That's not a actual issue. No one has actually been demonitized for saying killed. Their just being safe since it's a issue on tik tok

[@13smitch]

Just got this pushed today. Never heard of you, but it did answer a question of "why is youtube burying the stuff I want and flooding me with crap?" I will now probably get flooded with other random crap I don't want.

[@snxjsnsnjsiwnsjsosjsmmemsjsn]

yep me too, wtf is this guy,?? and why did he end up on my feed, lol😅😅😂😂

[@maddiemcnugget1076]

The one that annoyed me the most is the fact that I would search a video that I KNOW EXISTS and then YT would suggest 3 random videos then give me some "for you" videos like... whaaa? I'm glad this video got big and arrived to my recommends. You deserve it.

[@Snoozl]

Fr and then it straight up turns into liveleak

[@randomdude2540]

Use new pipe for searching

[@Snoozl]

@@randomdude2540 what’s that?

[@Omni_Moto]

This video is so meta. I can easily assume Zack had no idea it would do this well, but the algorithm did exactly what he described and put his video at the forefront of all of our pages because we, the people, hit the like button and interacted with it. The irony of this video landing on so many peoples pages that it has now amassed 1,000,000+ views is astounding. Kudos to you, Zackary.

[@1PeakMindset]

My thoughts exactly!!!!! 😂👌

[@TQFMTradingStrategies]

came here to say that lol, algo has become sentient, and it has a sense of irony XD

[@timstutors]

I was conned, and I'm okay with it

[@CatboyFisky]

Absolutely peak banger irony and LOVE it! :D

[@regulargoat7259]

It was literally the first video on my yt homepage when i opened it today

[@hoshyro]

I can confirm this video randomly popped in my feed without me having ever visited your channel, at least it was one of the extremely rare actually interesting recommendations

[@kristinebailey6554]

Same

[@aubreyj.tennant1123]

Same

[@IcyNightMedic]

Agreed, most recommendations are dogwater nowadays on this site.

[@SnowyButterfly1]

@@kristinebailey6554actually I searched for it but im goad got this recommende

[@asoibal]

Same

[@nasis18]

I am constantly clicking "don't recommend channel" and "I don't like the video" on things I have no interest in.

[@BenColc]

I'm glad other people are feeling this way. Search feels useless. Recommendations is full of stuff I've already seen. It feels like it's getting harder and harder to discover new content.

[@alepolait8951]

I feel the same way about Spotify. It's the same, over and over again. Instagram has the same "narrow view" thing, plus a lot of ads. Reddit is the only social media where i feel i discover some new stuff, but they are riddled with repost bots too.

[@jonirischx8925]

@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist4 Maybe the content was the bibles sold along the way?

[@fluteoboe101]

Or can we talk about how it will recommend you the same video over and over that you haven't clicked because you are not interested in? I wasn't interested the first time, I promise I won't be interested the 20th either.

[@BenColc]

Oh absolutely! Even if you go to the "New To You" tab it gives stuff that you've skipped over before. Take a hint, KZbin! lol@@fluteoboe101

[@Shadow850031]

@@fluteoboe101 youtube manages to show the same video over and over or very similar ones that I've specifically marked that I am not interested in

[@tinalute]

I’ve definitely found it harder to find videos I’m interested in. I feel like KZbin used to be really on point at recommending videos I’ll like. Now it just feels… stale. You explained why really well.

[@smoldoggooo]

KZbin used to be incredibly addictive to binge and always interesting. Lately,I find like 3 or 4 videos and then idk what to watch :/ Im even struggling to influence the algorithm to give me what I DO want by actively seeking it out. Whatever they changed is just awful right now

[@TheRealSnurge]

Perfect summation

[@thealexanderbond]

I would suggest that many of you spend too much time on KZbin and somehow expect there to be an unlimited quantity of videos that you will find interesting. Even within a niche that you like, most of the content is not good or at best mediocre. You're basically expecting an endless amount of high quality content for free, 7 days a week for however many years you've been watching YT - which simply doesn't exist. Perhaps a better solution would be to stop whining about this fact and go and actually do something, instead of looking at videos.

[@TheYoungKilljoy]

I actually sort of like that the algorithm sucks, so that people don't spend as much time in the app

[@trikolo]

Nailed the problem down PERFECTLY!

[@accidentalmadness1708]

@@thealexanderbondI would suggest not pulling assumptions out of your ass.

[@PetAdorn229]

Totally agreed with you. Why did youtube keep showing me the videos I have watched? Why can't youtube showing me some content in the niche I am interested in, etc...

[@Missunderstood103]

I've been really really really really really really irritated with KZbin. Everytime I watch something once, they send it to my page with a flood of other content from the same creator. They Drown me with certain stuff I am NOT inquiring about & totally ignore other things I look up. I don't research as much on KZbin anymore because it's just to time consuming clearing out all the content triggered by one article. It's always the dark stuff, too. Never the lighter subjects. Super disappointing because computer technology was supposed to stimulate our curiosity, NOT limit us to dark corners and force us to shut down our inquiries due to freaky algorithms. Depressing.

[@steyraug96]

Bread and circuses. The powers that be do not want us asking questions or finding answers, they want us enmeshed and engorged with bull dinky. We need to enmesh our would-be owners with the dirt. Only solution. And that will only lead to new owners... Bad actors are perennial like weeds.

[@linsqopiring6816]

Did you know you can delete videos from your watch history? Also you can research in an incogneto window.

[@withthesehands5799]

I accidentally clicked on a video about serial killers, i had to go and delete it from my watched history because it immediately started recommending me murder, kidnapping etc videos. thanks i hate it!

[@steyraug96]

@@withthesehands5799 Useful to learn how to avoid FedGov though. 😉

[@Pabliski577]

Notice the doomscrolling, that trance-like state when it happens. Save your brain while you can

[@CykoruKun]

The biggest downside for me is KZbin is pushing me very quickly into certain niches and does not let me leave. Like, I watch a lot of political content but recently I wanted to know few exercises so I watched approx. 10 videos from fitness niche. Since I did that 70% of recommended content is from various sport science/fitness/gym bros. Cool it down KZbin, I want my politics and essays and my gaming KZbinrs back.

[@SyntheticFuture]

Getting back in track ironically always takes hours upon hours of watching the content you actually like 😅

[@nicholasvinen]

I consciously avoid watching videos on topics I'm interested in but don't usually watch because I don't want my home page filled with just that type of video...

[@andylaw3222]

I liked a SINGLE viking song video 3 days ago, and now my rec is full as well, it's annoying asf!

[@cholst1]

Same. Slight interest in fitness, bombarded with CARNIVORE BROS

[@Crime_Mime]

Yep, I watched a couple of classical music compilations and now it's completely stuffed my main page

[@AlexanderBennettVideo]

I feel like YT has become a video essay factory. I love video essays (including this one). But less and less do I see creative new formats.

[@friedkeenan]

@@alephnulI I do feel like most of the valueful recommendations for me are longer form content. It feels more and more like the algorithm is incentivizing videos towards a few lengths: less than 2 minutes (clips, simple one note sketches, etc.), 25-30 minutes, and 50+ minutes, very much including multi-hour long videos. The world of 8-15 minute videos feels like it's shrinking, and sorta makes it feel like each video either takes meaningful commitment (especially the 50+ minute ones), or are so bite-sized that they don't leave a lasting impression and I just get booted back into the video choosing cycle too soon.

[@sewerentropy5217]

i love video essays as well, specifically gaming essays, but finding genuinely interesting and creative essays is definetly harder than it used to be. i generally find the most creative channels through suggestion from friends or recommendations from bigger creators. the most interesting channels are never recommended by KZbin itself which continues to push videos that are barely related to a video i saw 3 years ago.

[@treeaboo]

@@friedkeenan I identified this recently when talking with someone about how the intros that so many videos used to have have largely faded entirely over the last few years, with longer form content usually doing unique video-specific introductions rather than the classic intro a channel might use on every video, very short form content dropping intros entirely, and only some 25-30 minute videos retaining that older style of intros. However when the intros are retained they're now shorter and sometimes placed later after an 'intro clip' from the video's main content in order to grab attention, with the classic intro instead serving as a dividing slide between the 'hook' and the actual content. I think it's a sign of how KZbin videos are generally made to a higher quality these days and are more refined and optimised for viewer retention and their target demographics.

[@a-dv7uy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmq7nZyEdpeLedE part 2

[@KlutzKalico]

I get the same recommendations of video essays, even stopped using youtube because of how obnoxiously similar the videos were, though, as soon as i started watching horror game content again (like manlybadasshero) or react content (cinnamontoastken, jacksfilms), I'm being recommended more of those types of content also after a couple of videos. For some reason, finding a smaller content creator and then watching more tended to suggest me more small creators, I usually find them by looking for a niche game from my childhood (such as sims castaway) or because I like sonic and fnaf sometimes a smaller creator will just pop up in my recommended randomly because they're a popular subject. The system isn't perfect and sometimes it days a couple days for changes to take a major effect but it's some advice I have. I also highly suggest a youtube shorts blocker, specifically shorts blocker.

[@DougGrinbergs]

Big problem with search results "for you" / "you might also like" is how they insert random junk - no search match whatsoever! - kinda like gratuitous irrelevant twitter ad every 6 screens.😡

[@Hurricane6220]

Recently, my mom has been complaining about getting videos recommended to her that have almost no views, and no relation to her viewing interests - religious videos, spiritual videos, mindfulness videos - and she thought it was her fault for clicking on a video like that several weeks ago, lol 😄 She is even explicitly telling the KZbin recommendation algorithm on each of those videos (via the small menu button next to the video) that she is not interested in that content. But KZbin still recommends her those videos over and over again 😂

[@ktvibing1134]

Sad. That would be very frustrating.

[@ravenlorans]

Funny, I Keep getting Chinese and Islamic or even Jewish recommendations..

[@stephanielandis6178]

Make sure she restarts her computer from time to time. KZbin is bad at updated individual accounts.

[@daniellee.e_x]

That has started happening to me too, usually shorts.. Videos are still within my echo chamber but shorts are weird and random zero views videos

[@caki4695]

Oh my gosh so I'm not the only one spammed religious content when I haven't ever engaged with it??

[@marehawk411]

Yeah, this video was recommended to me out of nowhere. HOWEVER, unlike all the other random bullshit I see potential in this channel. I feel like this could become something much much bigger in the long run. Just keep at that grind, I'm rooting for you.

[@davidmays2660]

Same

[@TheNoiseRator]

Same

[@user-yc6km3iw7c]

Same

[@anarchistSpacer]

Same

[@mathiasdhume9522]

same

[@ShoFox]

I have definitely felt a difference in the past months.. About half a year ago, i thought my algorithm was perfect, i had so much fun watching KZbin. But nowdays it's like tiktok and twitter, a few bangers in the beginning, and then just endless doomsurfing in hopes of the right content. I am so glad that I'm not alone, this video was also amazing and very informative. Thanks❤

[@jaazz90]

Funny, opposite of my experience. My algorithm was perfect about 5 years ago, and it progressively got worse and worse, to the point where 6 months ago my page was filled with exact same channels and topics. I would scroll for 10 minutes until giving up and doing something else. Today it is still far from golden times, but gradually gets better. Almost as if we both could have the best of two worlds if youtube added recommendation settings, one showing similar content to what you watch, and the other exposing you to something new and unrelated.

[@ElStucko]

Holy shit same man hours of scrolling fr

[@holdenhodgdon3756]

Mid - late 2018 is when things went to shit. Since then I will get 3 videos relevant to the search I just did, and then the rest of the results are page after page of Linus Tech Tips.

[@Ilsezwarts]

Yeah 100% Agreed. I just tend to scroll for a while before I find more content I actually want to watch,,

[@ADreamingTraveler]

Same I noticed that youtube just stopped recommending me pc/old tech videos because I like watching those and think they're fun and interesting. Then just nothing despite me watching so many of these videos. Content creators I used to watch every other day just stopped showing up and then I'd go weeks or months not knowing they were still making new stuff constantly

[@elbugs8895]

i actually searched up this video, im doing an essay about how youtube is falling off, and searching for this video is exactly how you described it, it really helped me

[@freethoth]

I feel like irrelevant stuff is being forced on me. You came to me randomly. It's like the the algorithm sensed my frustration and you were there to explain. I am old - not your target demographic. I mainly look at ecology, agricultural, and biology topics. But as soon as you don't resist an impulse to watch some comedian you get a firehose of comedy. It's hard to get back on course. Your critique is spot on.

[@Maybe_a_monkey_on_a_computer]

I've noticed this as well. I watch one video on a topic that I wanted to at and only at that moment in time, and the KZbin decides that that is my entire personality.

[@DevonExplorer]

Haha, yes! i once watched a video of birds splashing about in a bird bath and before I knew it all my recommended videos were of birds bathing in a bird bath. They weren't even a variety of birds but all the exact same ones, lol!

[@chrismullin8304]

Ha! Agreed! I watch “Canadian Prepper”

[@TheeShaggySniper]

@@DevonExplorer We put on a "cat entertainment" video, where it's just birds and squirrels and whatnot in the forest to entertain our cats for a little bit. Well, because we searched for it and watched it for 15 minutes, that's now half my suggestions.

[@aircvr4175]

No kidding. The algorithm is embarrassingly-bad now. Multi-billion $ company that lets childish minds authorize downgrades to the ML. There is not a single executive at youtube, and probably precious few at "Alphabet" above them who deserves to be in any leadership position. Can you imagine an actual, educated, mature adult saying "Yeah, once they've watched one video, lets show that same video again and again in their feed even though they never click on it ever again? Good grief. Google needs a shareholder revolt. @@Maybe_a_monkey_on_a_computer

[@jimintaos]

What is driving me nuts is that when I scroll on my phone KZbin records every pause as something I watched, even if I only spent the amount of time it took me to move my finger. Later when I go through my history all of those channels are recorded as watched. Lovely-I now have a hundred videos to scroll through as I try and find the video I did watch and want to watch again or share with someone. I never thought about what it might be doing to some creator's analytics.

[@RachelB.BookReferences]

You can turn that off in your settings. It's called something along the lines of "preview," if I remember correctly.

[@jimintaos]

Thanks@@RachelB.BookReferences

[@cathyjohnson8287]

You can delete videos from your watch history.

[@G00gLe_was_my_idea989]

Is that why I sometimes see videos in my feed that have a piece of the red bar highlighted red as if watched (some of) it, but have never even seen the thumbnail or title in my life?

[@alexyssaubrie1606]

I used to get sucked into KZbin rabbit holes late at night but that doesn’t happen anymore. I feel like I’m constantly looking for content to watch but have a hard time finding new creators to watch. I’ve seen the exact same videos being recommended to my 6 year old niece and she watches Roblox videos and I watch mostly commentary. Somethings broken and I’m kinda ready to take a break from KZbin all together I am interested in internet culture so KZbin did hit the nail on the head with this recommendation.

[@McZambie1]

Exactly the same here, I watch documentary style content and I get the same random stuff as my sister's recommended, it's even the same as stuff on a brand new account

[@damian9303]

I first noticed that first with Shorts, when there became actual creators from TikTok flocking to the platform instead of just phone clips from a decade ago and little kids recording themselves or their TV screen. Now even my front page looks almost like when I’m signed out…

[@rahvun599]

I got recommended videos about random topics that i'm not interested in, videos that i've already watched and 2-10 years old videos. It's all over my feed. I hope this ends soon because it's so annoying.

[@hacim42]

I will say, I absolutely love getting videos with like 8 views in my recommendations. You get such a good picture of what the average person is doing on youtube, it's insanely fascinating to me. Getting videos I've already seen though, is pretty annoying.

[@teletubism]

There are websites that can find a random vid for you with little to no views

[@toobig7150]

im also totally fine with that, the issue its that trying to find any video regarding a topic its bordeline impossible to find, along with getting tiktok level recomendations and isane levels of shorts shoved everywhere. I find myself closing youtube all the time or goign specifically to channels i know and rewatching their videos, because outside the odd 8 view recomended video from a theme i like 90% of everything else its just.. meh (not because the person itself, but the theme of the video)

[@_PinkiePie.]

This is how I found a channel of some guy washing his clothes for 2 hours per vid. Or an entire underground community of people showing off their filled coloring books

[@kephrian]

@@geekzombie8795 I'm trying to find motivation but lifes a bit hectic at the moment😂 had a new born - yay finally a dad - plus trying to learn ue5 from a complete at home noob setting to make random videos is probably not the smartest.... .....and I dont have the same passion for modern games any more.........funny enough I moved back to streaming on twitch after a very long break....growing faster there than on here which is weird as I was going well on here for my content quality I thought but now it's like nah no one wants to see what you do😂 plus I havnt been to a car show for a long time plus left all my car clubs after covid....maybe I will just put a timelapse car wash video of my r33 gts 25de sedan and see how that goes......

[@noobbutbetter]

@@kephrianbro I dont even get 20 views on my shorts

[@reezethevampire]

I miss the days when the recommended list under each video actually contained similar content to the video I was current watching, allowing me to sort of rabbit hole into specific topics. Now that that section is almost entire filled with KZbin drama, videos I've already seen, and Taylor Swift music videos, I don't think I've used that feature in years.

[@Oliravioli18]

i sweaarrr that was when youtube was actually fun to watch. Right now its all mish mash from small creators, old videos and some weird unheard of content that ive never watched before.

[@stephenszucs8439]

@sandraswan9008 I got so many unwanted Taylor Swift, Beyonce, and Cardi B Videos (I only ever listen to Gospel music or the Oak Ridge Boys/Statler Brothers/Home Free) that, after "Do not recommend channel" was ignored for over a month, I just hit "Violent or repulsive content" every time.

[@TheOne24115]

I was getting so annoyed by the suggestions, that I disabled them. Now I only see the suggestions when the clip has ended

[@datadavis]

yea its so very, very Ass.

[@savannahsmiles1797]

@@stephenszucs8439 thanks for the laugh...I went to UFO and Bigfoot suggestions

[@glodeine]

I thought I was crazy for losing interest in KZbin over the last year or so. Mind you, I have been consuming content on this platform for as long as I can remember. Back then it felt like I could load up the homepage and instantly find 3-4 videos that I would gladly watch to burn time. Now it feels like a schlep to find something worthwhile. Thanks for explaining, I hope they bring back the old KZbin.

[@CaptainFSU]

I don't use the homepage, I stick to my subscription feed, and if I must look for something new I use search. The homepage is where the algorithm lives and I find it chaotic af.

[@coebro1]

Yeah sometimes it feels like KZbin doesn’t want you to use it. I remember scrolling through my homepage and seeing nothing but 10 second memes or clips from tv. None of my subscriptions

[@CineSoar]

I've found, that if I don't see something interesting in the first half-page, or so... It's going to be less interesting the farther I scroll. About once a month, a 'really random' suggestion will really hit with me. But, it is rare that the algorithm serves me anything that rises to 'must watch'. Sometimes, I click on that oddball suggestion that I've seen suggested 50 times, just to get it off my homepage.

[@davidadams2395]

The question should be, to which old KZbin are you referring? The app has gone through so many iterations.

[@xmancook529]

literally! i would have so many internal battles of what to watch next, and now it’s a blessing if i even open youtube anymore

[@elkboy2538]

My problems with KZbin are it's echo chambers, it's search engine being crappy all of a sudden, and Temu, Shein, and dating ads that are definitely not generative popcorn. There's not even an option to remove inappropriate ads that I don't want to see, and I remember there used to be.

[@paulthep0teat]

Genuinely, I'm happy I was recommended this video. The amount of times I've had to hit "not interested" and "don't recommend this channel" the past few months is truly staggering. It's why I've been considering getting off KZbin and doing whatever else with my time.

[@imjustjk]

I’ve hit not interested many times and the next day I get recommended the video again. It happens regularly to the point that I don’t even bother anymore.

[@One.Zero.One101]

I've probably clicked "I'm not interested" a hundred times on "Camping in the Woods" videos and they still recommend it to me after a week. I don't get it, I've never watched a camping video in my whole life. I can't even think of anything that I watch that's remotely related to camping. Why is KZbin pushing this on me?

[@02artiom]

​@@One.Zero.One101lmao youtube wants you to touch grass

[@FiFiFilth]

I have the same thing. I get random videos by indian kids that shouldn't be on the platform. I also get loads of Jordan Peterson and self improvement channels which I actively dislike every single time. It goes completely unnoticed. Yet there are hundreds of channels I have subscribed, I haven't seen a video of them for years.

[@autolicious]

There are other things to do? What magic is this?

[@AtentieCadMere]

It was recommended, and I clicked because I feel the same. I am not sure what happened but last year my page looked nice and full o professional KZbinr thumbnails. Now.... it look like I am logged out, or searches influence way too much future the page and recommendations. cheers!

[@bobi_lopataru]

Sall :))

[@drachenaura]

It does NOT look like you're logged out. Believe me. I am not logged in at work so when I go on youtube for some music, it looks like a fcking porn site... because all of the pop music playlists use half-naked women at the beach for their thumbnails. Sigh.

[@beats-megga]

ariana what are you doing here :))

[@leagueaddict8357]

I was having this question for a longer time, then was randomly recommended to this video, google's algorithm also sucks giving you completely unrelated results all the time.

[@a-dv7uy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h36panSfirh1nLs part 2

[@corprall]

Something I've been noticing for a few years is sometimes youtube will recommend a video I've already watch and seemingly deliberately hide the watch time bar so it doesn't look like you've already seen it.

[@musaran2]

There is a limited memory for one's "watched' bars. Watch too many, and older ones get forgotten. Though I do sometimes have doubts about priority of forgetting.

[@lilyroza]

In my music section,it no longer gives me the option to eliminate videos. Listen again is a useful feature until it fills up with videos/ songs you listened to once or twice and never want to hear again. Other videos have the not interested option, and the don't recommend option, why not in music? Also, my recommended searches should be things I have searched, and they're not. I'm not a gamer or interested in sports, so all the most searched options are of no use to me. It used to have my own searches, but not anymore.

[@christinearmington]

Seems I’ve already commented happens all too often. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@corprall]

@@musaran2 This was my assumption when I first noticed but it kept happening so I actually checked on a number of occasions by going to the channel in another tab to compare and it still had the watch bar most of the ones I checked.

[@DynamicBailey]

I hate KZbin anymore. I’m so incredibly bored with having to sift through the same damn videos day after day after day. I used to love it but those days are over. The crap they recommend is so not me. It’s like they don’t care what I want to watch.

[@abbaday1200]

I searched youtube to find a video about how bad their search is and this was the only one that had enough relevance to click because youtube is SO GODDAMN BAD AT THEIR OWN JOB

[@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself]

The good news about how KZbin is now is that I used to find hundreds of interesting videos and spend way too much time watching. Now I get bored or frustrated after just a few minutes and go find something better to do.

[@prozacdick]

exactly!!! i used to look through youtube for interesting, tangental videos . Now i watch maybe 3 videos and fuck off.

[@_saltyvinegar]

I remember the sidebar always had so much! And now I spend more time looking than anything

[@drorbenuliel9280]

same!! the only good thing that has come out of youtube becoming so shitty is that it became less addictive. and since I was wasting way more time than i would like to on this platform it is actually good in some way.

[@nnn326]

very that

[@0sarah0911]

I thought I was just outgrowing youtube and social media in general, so it's interesting other people have the same experience. I can scroll through the home page and the "new to you" page for 20 minutes and not find something i actually want to watch anymore

[@pennystowers6491]

I LITERALLY was complaining about this in my head when I saw this video, KZbin has become so frustrating to use. I can sit and refresh my recommended page for no joke 10 minutes straight while clicking "not interested" on videos I've already watched/ don't want to watch, and STILL get recommended THE SAME VIDEOS. Or alternatively KZbin will stop showing me any videos and just give me "mixes" to watch, mixes containing videos I'VE ALREADY WATCHED!!! It's gotten to the point where I literally have to sit down and think of what specific KZbinr I want to watch or what might be interesting. It feels like shopping but you're only allowed to look at products you know already exist or have previously bought, and you have to guess the names of the other items to find them. It's made KZbin so unbelievably UN-relaxing to use because I just get so frustrated with how seemingly purposely bad the recommendation ai is.

[@TheLetterS_Rebooted]

ive literaly deleted all my watch history a couple months ago i wouldn't recommend doing that because it'll just recomend you videos you have already watched before reseting it

[@EvilParagon4]

I recommend the extention "BlockTube". Works completely within the KZbin system so no weird menus or anything. Allows you to block videos and even whole channels from ever being recommended. You can also block key words like for instance if you don't like "iceberg" videos (though it's not very smart, it will block _all_ iceberg videos, even ones about actual icebergs like for instance, if you like documentaries you may miss out on something to do with the Titanic if you have such a filter on. You can not only block Shorts, but also block videos of a certain length. When I'm in the mood for video essays I just pump it up to 3000 seconds and I get plenty of 50+ min videos recommended to me. But, my favourite part of the extension, is looking at a homepage of 24 videos or so, blocking 20 of them, and feeling confident I will _never_ see them again.

[@brenk7764]

In the spirit of scientific research, confirming your video got recommended to me out of the blue. I ignored it for many days...finally watched it. I still have no idea why it got recommended to me based on content I usually watch, but I found your explanation useful and informative. Thanks, hope this helps and best wishes for reaching your monetization goals.

[@airerazor9079]

Same, actually saw it refuse to go away on my husband's account and came and looked it up on my own, we normally watch yt through our ps5

[@TheeShaggySniper]

This has been very reoccurring as well - refreshing the main youtube page does absolutely nothing. If there's a video uploaded in the past week that I haven't watched from a creator I'm subscribed to, it's going to stay in the top suggestions. Refreshing the page just shuffles the order they're in, sometimes. It's like youtube is literally telling me "These are your only options. Pick one."

[@airerazor9079]

@@AmazingRofa spam?

[@cobrasys]

Same here.

[@Taraeth]

Yup, same. I actually only watched this now because I got the "KZbin Ad Problem" video recommended and decided to watch that one, just to realize it's from the same creator as this video which had parked in my recommended for several days, but which I had ignored (I can say now tho, it's a good video!). Usually, when I'm really getting annoyed by a video staying rent-free in my recommended, I eventually tell KZbin that I'm not interested in the video and it goes away.

[@edwardbloxy]

2024 update: it got worse, it's now recommending me videos i watched 1-3 YEARS AGO and videos that are barely related to the video that i just watched. and it's recommending playlists for some reason and i can't click not interested on them

[@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH]

The fact that you only have 24,000 subscribers and this video got 1 million views in 3 days shows that the algorithm is doing something different. Sometimes for the worse and sometimes for the better. And YES we are interested in more of your video essays. Keep up the good work!

[@amonoceros]

I do think that the, "hey, something is wrong or weird about the youtube algorithm!" is something that ties us all together, so the topic probably also helps for engagement metrics.

[@LaciRae]

he only had 660 subs 4 days ago. so the algorithm def helped him out here. but he is also right about the improvements that need to be made.

[@gruntlord6]

he had 18.5 k when I watched this, came back and refreshed the page and now its 26k lol

[@a-dv7uy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h36panSfirh1nLs part 2

[@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH]

@@LaciRae ohWOW! Really! Dang! That’s a BIG jump!

[@svalomat]

I'm into niche things, but getting recommended mainstream ones. Searching for something very specific became almost impossible. KZbin should try to be better than tiktok instead of copying it. And now youtube always recommends just new videos, even if you're looking for timeless things that are just as valid several years later.

[@banshiii4049]

Dude fr playlists is your best friend now, like I love the niche videos from 5-10 years ago or vidoes with that vibe, and it’s impossible to find them again it makes it feel like I found a piece of gold because legit searching for it I’ll never find it.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@banshiii4049 it's the only way I can keep track of things. I watch coding videos online and trying to refind a good one is nigh on impossible using the search bar, even if you know the name of the video.

[@jilledubois5883]

Broo yt search option is very accurate

[@amuro9624]

If I wanted to watch tiktoks I'd download TikTok if KZbin becomes like TikTok people like me who don't care about TikTok will just stop using KZbin. That's such a dumb idea from yt.

[@madcxat8390]

​@@banshiii4049I'm so glad it wasn't just me

[@lemonsgalore93]

I think, for me, the biggest and most annoying change is the search function. I’m constantly shown videos that I have already watched. I want new videos when I search for something!

[@losermillie]

and it doesn’t even show as watched which means i’ll go ‘that sounds familiar’ and probably watch it anyway, but if i watched it 5 years ago, i don’t actually want to watch it again

[@pugglebiscuit9600]

@@losermillie this happens to me even within a week or two of watching it, yt just forgets and even if i say ive already seen it several times itll STILL put it there. Also def agree that searches are horrible now, literally have better luck going thru google/firefox search and THEY find the types of vids i want more often that yt lately

[@NondescriptMammal]

For sure! Obviously if there are videos that I know I might want to watch again, I can save them in a playlist... No good reason to put them in my search results.

[@raezor82]

Tbf it is nice for asmr.

[@creamtoned]

@@raezor82 playlists r for saving videos not the search feature

[@TellerTactGaming]

Confirmed popped up out of nowhere. Yes KZbin recommendations has been "off" so to speak for about a year as you said. Also I noticed KZbin has started mixing in ads in the normal home page feed as if they are regular videos from a content creator, which is really annoying and you have to be careful so you don't click anything by mistake.

[@whatdamath]

About 8 months ago KZbin also reached out to many creators on the pretense of assigning us with a free channel manager/helper who's going to improve our channel and make it better I was excited to sign up for it just to find out that after a few video calls the only thing the "manager" would talk about is how I really should try short and should make more short and why don't I make short? also how about streaming more? but also shorts I was really frustrated with them and decided to just stop communicating because even after politely declining the short suggestions and telling them I was only interested in long form content they would not stop talking about it. Like seriously youtube? embrace who you are and stop copying other kids

[@neologicalgamer3437]

YOO, IT'S ANTON, I LOVE YOUR CONTENT MAN

[@raeyner]

Well, curiousity got the better of me, and I think I rather like your long-form content (and that you've got yourself a new viewer)! Though I definitely understand where youtube is coming from. I don't think it's a bad idea to have shorts to reach new audiences. I scroll shorts an awful lot whether I like it or not, and if there had been shorts content that directed me to your channel for a longform video on an interesting topic? I'd be all ears and would've found your channel a lot sooner! Don't look at it like "shorts", look at it like a good video trailer. If you're clever and execute it tastefully, you'll get the dual effect of growing your viewership and potentially even engaging people's interest in a topic they might not have thought much about! KZbin can only recommend so many longform videos, they vie for attention. Shorts? You can scroll dozens of them effortlessly. The exposure difference is immense, I reason, and I don't think there would be too much to lose (though I could most certainly be mistaken, after all: I'm not a content creator, I just play games and make music) Either way, I love what you're doing. Science has a resonating chord with almost everything we do, and creators who make educational or thought-evoking content around it, that encourage viewers to dive-in, help grow love for learning for an unspeakably many people. Keep it up!

[@a64738]

I hate the "shorts" videos and block them for a month every month (you can only bock them for a month)...

[@natalieminnis]

@@a64738 Didn't realise you could block them. Will try this.

[@natalieminnis]

I hate YT "shorts". The reason TikTok is popular is because the content is edgy, not because it's short.

[@ElderUribe]

I do hate youtubes new changes but having this video and creator recommended out of nowhere talking about the exact reason why its happening is so surreal. Great video, thank you for existing

[@sentientplant9658]

Fr it's kinda nice. Freaky, but nice.

[@katiebarber407]

itys kindof a testament against the proof that youtube is ruined lol

[@lordship1543]

Why is it surreal?

[@danksorcerer-xe2gd]

especially the new youtuber channel design ,now i don't know how to access the community tab ,about section or the in channel search bar ,only just recently discovered how to access all the videos in a channel and can only comment using the reply button without it there is no way for me to comment

[@danlightened]

Yeah, kinda ironic, isn't it?

[@NunnyaBidniss]

It definitely feels different. I’m SO sick of KZbin constantly recommending videos I’ve already seen! Then again…It recommended this video too and I liked it.

[@littledarlingwendy]

This! My entire recommended is videos I have already seen or are on my watch later list. Why would you recommend something I already saved? Its so counter intuitive

[@vuzereusazureus2245]

1.Yes, this video randomly on my page 2.Yes, somehow, my favorite creators and niche ...gone? Only very few 3.The best algo is KZbin music apps on Android, from "maybe i just pick 3"...end up 50 my fav bands/genres selected. 4.New algo mimic TT, where "everyone have a chance to be on fyp", this is better for small creators, they have a chance to compete and might gain interest from different demography.

[@radudeATL]

KZbin feels very OFF these days. You hit the nail on the head. And the fact your video was recommended is actually on-brand for the types of videos I enjoy watching.

[@lexwhy554]

Ive been refreshing my youtube feed like three times every time i wanted to watch something today because everything felt so disconnected from what I like and then I saw this thumbnail and I felt a cosmic connection with the rest of humanity instantly (and yeah i do love video essays on internet culture)

[@sentientplant9658]

Fr I feel like the algorithm completely disregards my actual interests and just give me random nonsense it's obvious I'm not going to watch while suppressing people I actually WANT to watch. For instance, I'm not subscribed to Wendigoon since I don't watch too many of his videos, but I used to get recommended his videos anyways. Now, I legit thought he hasn't posted in almost a year because I'm no longer getting recommended his videos. But based on what I watch, even if I never watched him, I still watch people in his area of expertise, so I should still be getting recommendations of him. It's wild.

[@ano_nym]

I'm happy I don't seem to have gotten this change yet. My recommended is still normal. I have noticed the search being shit though.

[@Your-Average-Nerd]

Yes, I keep getting videos that I’ve never had anything to do with or had any interest in or videos that I used to watch. For example Danny Gonzalez, I really don’t watch him and don’t WANT to watch him. I don’t really like his content so it’s pretty annoying when he keeps popping up. There’s also Mr. Beast (used to watch) and this one video about how North Korea is inescapable now. I really don’t care about any of them so it frustrates me when I’m trying to find a good video to watch.

[@vivious_]

exactly what i did

[@buddymmx3936]

I know right! I've never had this problem In the past but now it feels like refreshing is just a step to finding a relevant video

[@chrism4309]

Completely agree -- this video hits the nail on the head. Anecdotally I find myself scrolling longer, being less interested, and often just switching to other platforms. Video recommendations don't seem to update nearly as frequently as they once did, and often my homepage looks very similar day-to-day. The "algorithm" nowdays seems to just ignore my watch patterns, and focus on irrelevant ones.

[@Level1Hera]

Yes! I've been getting that old TV feeling of "ugh.. There's nothing on."

[@ErinR-w7t]

Same - I hate that the same videos just sit on my recommended page for ages. It used to be so good at recommending things I'm interested in and keeping it fresh :(

[@LukeCreates]

I think search has always been pretty meh, but the new algorithm I think is actually a step in the right direction. I've been using KZbin since around 2009 as my main form of media, and I am enjoying that this new algorithm is recommending me videos with less views. There was a period where it would only show me popular videos in my niches, but now I'm getting recommended videos from very small creators.

[@soulfrost2020]

half the time my homepage is filled with videos that I have already watched

[@phitsf5475]

Whatever stops me accidentally watching one video and being bombarded with the same c**p as if it was my favorite thing ever

[@TranquilBeing_]

My biggest problem that started occurring not too long ago with the algorithm and the homepage is that: For basically the entire day, my homepage recommendation doesn't change except for some exceptions where I get a new video recommended. Other than that, every time I refresh the home page or go back to the homepage after watching a bunch of videos, I always get the same videos and reels from the same creators. The only thing that changes when I refresh my homepage is the positionnement of the videos and shorts on my homepage. It is now more of a chore trying to find: 1. A new video that wasn't recommended to me AND 2. A new video that isn't bad or not related to what I usually watch.

[@beavortex]

I love the fact that small creators are being pushed out more, found this video exactly because of the algorithm change. Very good quality video btw

[@laser_uhhhh]

thats probably the only good part of this new algorithm

[@theflyingspaget]

It's cool, but it's so unhelpful to small creators because I'm recommended random stuff from some small creators but the tiny creators I care about are never recommend to me despite me subscribing and turning on notifications (that rarely appear). I've found a few good niches through this system but for some reason it's like when the channel gets too small KZbin forgets all of your interests. It's like they assume I'll click on someone's recording of a discord call out of pity that it only has 500 views but wouldn't want to listen to a video essay about my favorite game ever because it's only got 50 views.

[@townfool4682]

@@theflyingspaget Yeah unfortunately by pushing small creators indiscriminately to people outside their target demo, it can inadvertently tank the video performance, which often hurts the small creator even more

[@Mel-mu8ox]

KZbin have a box that comes up occasionally, asking if you want something different from what is usually recommended... It would be nice if that feature was worked on a little, giving ppl a choice :( A behaviour science thing. if choosing to watch something new, your more likely to have an open mind about it, allowing you to enjoy it more than you would have if it was the only option you had with seemingly no other choice. The same thing happens when youtubers buy adds and they are shown to ppl outside their target audience. This was actually tested by another content creator. 'The spiffing brit, youtube is broken - how to kill a youtube video' Time stamp 2:12 KZbin is hurting creators in the same way :/ Its bad marketing :(

[@iidoyila_live_]

" i keep seeing the same stuff " " i keep seeing random stuff " this guy is mad that people who don't know about famous people saw a video about famous people on youtube . this is exactly the kind of person who should see the video lol

[@sirsamiboi]

Funny how this video was also randomly recommended to me, I feel like the recent KZbin algorithm changes have been a mixed bag of good and bad outcomes and I'm super glad that you and everyone here feels the same way! You made some great suggestions to how the algorithm could change and I hope KZbin will consider them.

[@chilljelloton2089]

I miss being able to click several videos and use my history as a short-term queue. It saved me from so much of the doom scroll, often times I'd click several vids, then do minimal scrolling to find some more towards the end of the content I picked. It was so much better. I do find myself keeping up with the channels I'm subscribed to more purely because I find it a good palate cleanser from the endless doom scroll. Especially when I'm getting suggested doomer-esque content.

[@billcosta]

It's just random, the algorithm picking up something good is still a chance

[@ask343]

I love your pfp and I know where it's from 🥹

[@sirsamiboi]

@@ask343 Heyyyy let's go ✊ it's such an amazing song

[@Hugsloth]

I feel confident in saying the random low view videos in people's recommendations are an earnest(?) effort to give visibility to the bajillions of low view channels

[@ashleycarroll504]

My KZbin frustrations: -I cannot find any more DIY channels to watch to fill out my feed -If I watch genres that more often make long videos, those genres totally take over my feed. Instead of judging based on the quantity of videos. -the issues you mentioned about searching

[@krimke881]

THIS!

[@b_l_b_r]

i would like to add the fact that if u go to a channel that has been on youtube for more than 10 years ( or exactly 10 years ) u can see only the oldest and the most recent videos, but u cant see the videos in the middle;-;

[@OGimouse1]

I want to add that it autoplays weird s### unrelated to anything I'm watching or have ever watched.

[@saucedbutleaking6558]

60% of my feed is lofi now, lol

[@whitneawonka9264]

I like to watch movie reactions, but youtube only shows me the same maybe 5 channels that do those. Occasionally I'll get one brand new channel with 6 views and a terrible mic.

[@SuSang666]

Thanks for this video. I just got recommended your video today out of the blue. I'm experiencing all the issues you have raised, including getting recommendations that have nothing to do with subjects I'm interested in. I'm in Australia and speak English yet my News tab is filled with news channels from a different country each day - none of them in English. When I deliberately search for a particular issue, it is often difficult to find anything useful in the results. Not a huge fan of the shorts. Don't use TikTok and don't need the YT version in my feed.

[@TsarAlexei29]

My biggest complaint right now is almost entirely related to the search function. I use youtube in my classroom as a teacher, and its gotten a lot harder to find the content I KNOW exists, that I have previously seen, but now I get so few results related to my query that I struggle to find some of the more obscure videos I like to use in class.

[@emb7854]

I knew all of Robert Sapolsky's videos vanished! I used to be able to find stuff about behavioral biology and now it's a desert!

[@randomtinypotatocried]

It's getting really bad when it comes to videos on history

[@levieve7779]

Every year I use the same video to teach bon dancing. This time I had to get so weirdly specific about the video I was looking for to find the bon dancing video.

[@aksez2u]

You know you can save videos and even make folders, right? I used to have a folder for each subject and there they were when I needed them.

[@niqhtt]

Also a teacher and I have to download/record things as I find them

[@spooner6250]

I’ve definitely noticed the change in the search features and it’s one of the most annoying things on this site. Though I don’t use KZbin often, trying to find a specific video/a range of videos on a certain topic is almost impossible now.

[@animepiglover]

The search function drives me crazy now, I've always loved watching anime speed paint videos, but I get like 10 I can pick from before it's like here's this creator you watch who isn't related to what you searched at all~~✨ it's really cut down on how often I watch those now 😭

[@LikaLaruku]

The search is really bad. Starting to remind me of shopping on Amazon. So I'm getting irrelevant results & irrelevant ads. The recommendations are the only thing that has improved for me.

[@buddyyyy]

i think rhe search engine got changed or something because is not working on anything like it used to (google, facebook, twitter, etc)

[@Conkel]

It's an absolute nightmare trying to find some old vids with key words. Not even the full title of the vid makes it show up at top. Yt be crap nowadays

[@Treebranch_]

I feel like when I type a word in the KZbin search engine, KZbin is using that word for 5 listed videos in the results and then it completely forgets what i searched after that and tells me to go f-k myself with the rest

[@erikerikson3167]

This video came out of nowhere for me, however I genuinely wanted to know how exactly youtube was getting worse because I knew it was, however I didn't know how bad it was getting tbh.

[@J-D248]

Same here!

[@skratchisrandom5596]

I love video essays, multi hour long videos, outlandish movie and show theories, but I haven't been getting any of those. No video essays, longest videos cap at 22 minutes, and no theories. You are the first video in weeks that actually caught my interest and held my attention the entire video, and I am so greatful! Glad I'm not crazy, and glad I found you

[@tiffys]

As someone who has been on KZbin as long, this resonates with my soul. Opening the homepage to see none of my regular creators or people I have subscribed to makes it feel like KZbin is dead in a way. I am finding I am usually at a loss for what to watch these days or I'm relying on my memory to manually search channel names. It's terrible timing with TikTok blowing up as I think a lot of people will choose to make that permanent jump.

[@jiritsu0]

I'd like to ask then: why are you not subscribed to your favorites and use subscription tab to see all of them? Homepage is the place where I go when I want to see something different and my usual KZbins bookmark is straight to subscriptions.

[@Rhyzal_]

​@@jiritsu0 For my take: I almost exclusively use my subscriptions tab because the homepage is so worthless to me anymore, but even the subscriptions tab isn't perfect as it's listed by most recent release, which ultimately makes it flooded by the largest of my subscribed channels that produce content with a whole team and my smaller channels are lost in the flood. Anymore, besides getting direct notifications, I have to think about a channel and directly navigate to their page to get their content.

[@2112jonr]

Same here. Just being served up UTTER SHIT. No WAY am I going to pay for KZbin based on this experience.

[@jiritsu0]

@@Rhyzal_ That is so true about the big channels that produce a lot can clog up the subscription tab. It is a tricky thing for the creator side on that too: there's some content that needs individual videos (like in product reviews and that sort of things), but floods the feeds or make big compilations that might not go well as people just skip major parts and leave the watch time on those low, which in return makes them "undesirable" in the eyes of the algorithm.

[@pyroboy3750]

If a channel is really important to you, save one or more of their videos so its easy to find the channel you are looking for

[@kattenihatten]

I really hate what has become of the search funktion. It feels impossible to find the things I am specifically interested in. And I can't imagine how frustrating it must be for the creators. Edit: and what is up with pulling recommendations from my "watch later- list"?!!! I know I I want to watch that! Thats why it's on my list!

[@escthedark3709]

Absolutely this. I literally started using a search engine instead of YT's search because of how awful YT's search has become.

[@deadgirlcentral]

it is deplorably bad. too often now are the first few videos i see after i search anything arent even RELATED to what i was looking for

[@Envy_May]

yeah it's so bizarre and only becomes increasingly difficult to use. if i want to find more than just the top few results for something i need to go to the search filter and get it to specifically find videos, and even then it's still not all the results !!!!!

[@pustota7254]

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[@amypatterson7395]

⁠@@deadgirlcentralNot only are the videos coming up not relevant, but also those unrelated videos are often inappropriate and some border on dangerous. I have never watched a Eugenia Cooney (sp?) video in my life, but EVERY TIME I scroll too far down when I’m using the search function, it starts recommending some of her/her fan channels’ content. I don’t have an eating disorder, so it just stays in the annoying “why are there no options for me to report this content as ‘Not Interested’ or ‘Don’t Recommend This’ like I can with recommendations OUTSIDE of the search function?”, but I can imagine that for young children or people with eating disorders that content is extremely triggering. I’ve also been suggested weird shorts like “He’s never seen my FEET before!” that feels like it’s catering to fetish viewers. And this comes up after like… maybe 10-15 videos. Sometimes less. All of this when I’m searching for stuff like “room declutter”, “asmr fireplace”, “how to organize fridge”.

[@Anon999-qk3ue]

I swear this is what everyone has been trying to say for awhile now, but we just couldn't articulate it. Thanks for being the voice of the people

[@noticiasinmundicias]

I actually like the new system, except for shorts on desktop. Fuck shorts

[@kibblesnbits3174]

One year later and it still sucks ass. The AI controlling the algorithm is so shitty. I hardly even get recommendations for people I subscribed to anymore. It's just Shorts, random 30-view videos and, if I do click a video that's interesting, then that will be the only topic that shows up on the algo. I miss KZbin algo from five years ago.

[@sheldoncooper8199]

I HATE KZbin Shorts i wish i could disable them. And i thought 2013 was a Bad Year for KZbin.

[@KomajuDraws]

i use youtube revanced app for mobile + youtube search fixer on desktop, removes shorts like a charm

[@bodhi6769]

That was the beginning

[@TheOne24115]

You can disable them with adblock, I have done it and it works really well

[@SubBattleTV]

how in the world is 2013 bad?

[@theclearsounds3911]

You CAN disable KZbin Shorts, and this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJfVYah_ipefeqs shows you how. It's a fair amount of work, but I tried it, and it worked for me.

[@pretnear21]

As a teacher who looks for video clips to enhance lessons, the change in KZbin’s search functions have made it impossible to find relevant videos on some of the less popular historical events!

[@Dagoth_brunn]

True, KZbin search results have 3 relevant videos to the topic and the rest is gibberish

[@wilson1799]

As a history teacher, you are 100%. I either get those annoying pop history channels or a poorly made video that is some far-right or far-left spin.

[@Thunderdumpe]

i find for some reason that searching in incognito mode gets cleaner results, it seems to get past the recommended and other junk

[@baileescott401]

use the video search function on google, it'll give youtube results that may be more helpful

[@luchirimoya]

You can always search on google and add "youtube" at the end of your search, quotation marks included, so you'll only be shown results from youtube and not other websites. Hope this helps! The youtube search results infuriate me.

[@bclee__]

I've never watched a single one of your videos, but both you and (strangely) the YT algorithm are spot on for this video.

[@primroseplants]

same here, I hadn't seen him before but YT algorithm got him another subscriber 👍🏼

[@its.just.b.b.6]

Same here

[@Joes-Cool-Stuff]

Same here - I watch lots of video essays and internet lore stuff

[@MrCharkteeth]

Same here

[@andrewsmithphoto]

It's videos like this that makes me happy KZbin offers me random videos from people I have never heard of before.

[@Laserfish17]

I love it when I search for a video from a specific creator and I get 5 REACT videos before the original creator… super good for society, we need more of this. /s

[@ekn_38]

We aren't on Reddit here, people have the social skills to understand sarcasm

[@skarskart]

​@@ekn_38 yeah it caught me off guard

[@memegazer]

yeah...they borked the yt search...often you are better off using an outside search engine to find the vid you are looking for

[@memegazer]

@@ekn_38 it's called poes law reddit just has an etiquette for dealing with that

[@elainelouve]

Also in other ways the search gives absolute trash. AI created content farms, etc. Searching for a certain niche it might give hate compilations that totally break the TOS on bullying and hate content, yet reporting them does nothing, and that crap stays in the top search results.

[@DiaryofNatalieRose]

Finally someone is talking about this. I am interested in slice of life and Japanese fashion content, yet I get soooo many recommendations for videos about celebrity drama, commentary on why (insert anything) is problematic, and random makeup influencers.

[@stevens1041]

Yes, this. Its a lot of negativity blasting itself into our lives

[@allegorx58]

teach the algo you don’t want their constant libtard propaganda by downvoting all of it prob won’t work tho lol

[@foreverkurome]

oh for fuck sake tell me about it @DiaryofNatalieRose. I used to be able to find funny anime memes now I can only find "girls are into this" "look, look what this celebrity/politician did" bro, I don't give a fuck what celebrities are up to (yeah hopefully throwing themselves off a bridge ASAP wearing cement shoes) or what 3D GIRLS in the real world are into you dare to recommend the 3D to me???, Do I look like that's going to be relevant info to me any time soon?. I'm fucking sick of my recommended being 95% contaminated with shit I have absolutely 0 interest in. I want more anime and more Minecraft.

[@akabaneaki]

ikr! same here! its sooo annoying

[@foreverkurome]

@@akabaneaki what's irritating about it is that KZbin is effectively forcing people to agree to all of these terms on how they process their data yet the recommendations are still garbage. This is no small amount of data they are collecting about people and because of that I think people are entirely justified in expecting relevant content based on their interests. I'm sending them data about basically every video and channel I watch and yet I'm still receiving utter shit that has nothing to do with anything I watch or any channel I have subscribed to so I have to ask the question "why does KZbin need to process my data?"

[@pusiona]

Finally, someone brought this up. These issues, especially constantly being recommended videos I’ve already watched, have been frustrating me for quite a while now. Finding content that I want to watch has become more and more of a struggle lately, and I’ve started watching less and less videos as a result. Interestingly, and only slightly related, I’ve noticed that the less time I spend on KZbin, the more aggressive the advertisements become.

[@theflyingspaget]

This isn't as much of a problem for me because I watch the same videos over and over again (long video essays), but I've been having an issue with KZbin continuously putting the same video in my autoplay which is annoying when I'm trying to listen to something while I'm doing housework and the like. The algorithm is also continuously shoving religious content down my throat, specifically a lot of former Christians who have deconstructed into atheists, which I sometimes appreciate but if I watch something even somewhat related to religion the Christian deconstruction becomes everything I'm recommended. I'm not Christian, never was, born an atheist. This is related because this one stupid video chasing me is an atheist deconstruction of the Bible, which was cool the first time but holy fuck if I hear the intro to it one more time I will quit KZbin.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

"especially constantly being recommended videos I’ve already watched" With no red bar either so if its a generic looking video or has an nonspecific title its hard to tell if you've seen it before. Meme compilations are pretty bad for it.

[@hiijustin1905]

Same my recommendations have been absolute pure garbage or just stuff I've watched already three times

[@saintmotel7813]

If you aren't on mobile, I'd reccommend using ublock origin. Right now it's blocking 860 ads for me.. goddamn

[@futrey9353]

to be fair, being recommended videos I’ve already watched is not a problem to me.

[@sherylcoetzer1]

If three was an alternate platform I would go there. You Tube is steadily getting worse!

[@littlestone1541]

Spot on. The algorithm is so off at the moment it's crazy. I get the impression they're trying to remediate the problem with more and more "do you like this video?" And "is this suggestion right for you?" Questionnaires that they expect you to fill in to help get your personal feed sorted out somewhat, but people just aren't going to take the time to fill these things in, and it won't fix the overall problems either.

[@inacatt]

The ironic thing is I only ever get those lil surveys on videos that I've already watched or from channels I'm subscribed to. It doesn't help that clicking "not interested" or "do not recommend" don't seem to work.

[@andrewsad1]

My problem with those is that a binary yes/no doesn't work without letting me explain *why* I said yes or no. Like, when I say I don't want Jordan Peterson's Kermit the Frog ass on my front page, is youtube gonna understand that I don't like him because he's an alt-right hack, or is it gonna assume I'm not into science and psychology? I like seeing charismatic people sit around and shoot the shit. I don't like Joe Rogan. Can youtube understand that difference when I say I'm not interested in clips from his show?

[@littlestone1541]

@@andrewsad1 Good point. I don't think that it can tell tbh. I've gotten a shtload of far right grifter garbage recommended to me lately. Doesn't seem to make any difference that I never watch them, the algorithm is assuming I want to see it anyway because Ive been interested in something vaguely tangential to whatever wedge issue that their propaganda mills are churning out at the time. And as they just grift from one subject to the next trying to farm outrage off of just about anything, it's pretty much guaranteed that theirs are the channels that'll keep getting recommended over and over again.

[@psgamer-il2pt]

​@@littlestone1541Thank God I thought I was the only one getting that shit

[@fluffysheap]

I only get those stupid questionnaires asking me if I liked videos I haven't watched. Well, I don't know, do I? If I watch the video they disappear. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@srslyawkward3095]

Your video was in my suggestions, but, as a 50-year-old woman, I tend to be in none of the demographics for the types of videos that I like. I also have been frustrated with getting the same videos served to me, especially ones from creators I have unsubscribed from. That said, this video was really enlightening. I am glad you made it to my feed.

[@kevlarbasin7501]

Not sure if your aware but you can block entire channels from showing up in your feed.

[@GeeEee75]

The three dots dropdown next to the video title lets you choose to not get recommendations from a channel again.

[@srslyawkward3095]

@kevlarbasin7501 Yes, I am aware of that. It was just a trend I had noticed that hadn't happened until the last year or so. Thanks for the tip, just the same.

[@greenwave819]

you have to thumbs down the videos from creators you unsubscribe from. That'll stop them from recurring pop ups.

[@zka77]

@@kevlarbasin7501ok but then some other crap will take its place, trust me I know :D

[@rigwire]

I’ve been finding it really hard to find engaging content recently, and I thought it was just me. I didn’t even know you when you showed up on my recommended, but I have to say this video was quite informational and entertaining. Love your content man, keep it up.

[@TheHighborn]

yeah, this. youtube recommends dogshit mostly.

[@cory99998]

The only way I find content I like is to go to the channels of my favorite creators. Finding new creators is so hard

[@rigwire]

Fr@@cory99998

[@vindi167]

im glad i have a watch later with more than 1000 interesting videos

[@rigwire]

@@vindi167 sometimes my recommended page gets so back I have to dig in my watch later bro. KZbin is just fucked up rn

[@shanzayaftab6125]

I was frustrated because of the search being useless and I typed “why has KZbin become so useless” and this video popped up. I wanted to see it.

[@ModularKnight]

I used to ask out loud if I was crazy as I scrolled through KZbin for literal hours slogging through only videos I've already seen or ones I've already selected 'not interested' on. Absolutely insane that there are millions of videos on the platform but it can't figure out what we like to watch.

[@drswaqqinscheckingin7210]

@@davesmith3023 dont you think that scrolling thing is them trying to figure out what they want to watch?

[@andydietrich3689]

@@drswaqqinscheckingin7210scrolling needlessly for HOURS? Trying to find a single video that’s new to you? At that point you need to start reading or engaging in another hobby and admit that shorts/scrolling have taken over your life. That would be the best case - the worst case is he could simply do research on new content.

[@virionspiral]

Yeah recommending the same random thing you've already watched is stupid. Now I could see maybe it is something you have watched multiple times before, but space out before it recommends it again.

[@cwai_art]

I'm someone who loves video essays, so this was probably recommended to me because of that. But I definitely agree with KZbin feeling off these days. It's either too much of the same thing or it's all over the place.

[@Zectifin]

yeah even though I've never heard of him, this is definitely a good recommendation for me as I'm all about video essays, and quite often internet lore ones. I do get recommended the weirdest crap though.

[@_shadownotes_]

Same here

[@nobodyplaylists]

The kind of content I like to watch is about renaissance and baroque instruments and art, I don't know why this video was recommended to me, but it was interesting to watch and understand what's happening👍

[@JasonNaas]

I once watched one of those videos where somebody power washes a dirty driveway. For weeks, my recommended videos were inundated with power washers.

[@EnriCherry]

As a regular viewer, I enjoy that YT recommends wide range of videos, as long as it's done appropriately - NOT in the search results. It's a very straight forward feature - you go to search when you want to find something specific. The fact that they put irrelevant "For you" videos there in the results so sneakily feels like a betrayal. It shows that they don't really care about usability or user experience in general.

[@daniel_960_]

If you're searching for yt videos search with Bing

[@hannah60000]

Recently, search results will also include recommends unrelated to the search enquiry. I like YT and I am not keen nor use TikTok.

[@NashvilleBraids]

This video wasn’t recommended, I went LOOKING for it because I’m so annoyed with the algorithm!!

[@amandasmercantile]

Good news is that KZbin has incentive to fix the problem. The better the recommendation system is the longer on site sessions will be 🤷🏻‍♀️ Why wouldn’t they want to fix it?

[@ZackarySmigel]

Never really thought of it like that. Interesting point!

[@Ten_Thousand_Locusts]

Lol as that's ever stopped them from making shitty decisions.

[@Pixiuchu]

@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts The dislike button? Yep

[@Ten_Thousand_Locusts]

@@Pixiuchu to name one thing yeah lol. But let's be honest they've made this site/app worse to use every year for years now, refuse to listen to community feedback and just keep on trucking along. So don't expect your recommendations to get any better anytime soon, or ever for that matter.

[@adamk-paxlogan7330Sucks]

youtube hasn't given me good recommends in years,in fact earlier this year,youtube recommended me a cat abuser,that made me really really really sad as a cat lover ;-; youtube is so mean to even recommend that to a cat lover,that literally broke my heart

[@johnfrian]

I can spend several minutes just scrolling, looking for anything interesting. Most videos are so far outside what I care about that I just keep on scrolling. It feels like it got worse and worse over the last few years, especially this last year. Your explanation feels spot on!

[@WrenFairX]

Don’t say it makes you keep scrolling, they’ll double down 💀

[@JAY593_]

omg yes, I remember like even still a year ago I would be able to find something to watch on the maximum first 10 recommended videos guessing high, now I will scroll for minutes trying to find something to sleep to, I literally just clicked on this video bc I was like ok im scrolling for so long now lets just watch this random one he might be chill enough for me to fall asleep

[@Cal3000]

This is exactly what is happening to me. It seem like it's getting worse every month. Before, I'd find something interesting to click on off the bat. Now I scroll for days, then refresh the page and scroll until I force myself to watch something I don't really have an interest in. Spend a minute on the video, then leave. The new algorithm is not good.

[@ey6413]

YEEES

[@fauge7]

@@WrenFairX no they wont, they dont want you to scroll on youtube, they want you to spend your time on the site as watch time. Netflix knows its users will exit the app within 90 seconds if they cant find anything. KZbin is probably similar

[@thepolloelectrico1117]

This was recommended to me out of nowhere, and it's one of the very few things that have been worth it. Hopefully KZbin themselves will watch and know how much we hate this.

[@UD503J]

I would share your optimism if it wasn't for the fact that KZbin only tunes their algorithm for maximum profits and not user satisfaction. They don't care if we like what we watch as long as we continue to watch and they make ad money from it.

[@vashcrimson4395]

must be the runescape music

[@Picxalate]

I swear you watch 1 random video and this broken ass algorithm thinks you're an enthusiast and tries to put you down a rabbit hole. Either that or they just think you wanna watch the same crap over and over and over. I have to legit try and find ways out of my algorithm just to find new content.