I regret selling my channel. WILL MATPAT? I spent a day with MATPAT

I spent a day with MatPat to learn the truth about being an analyst and his career on KZbin. Sponsors ▸ This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp - go to betterhelp.com/padilla to get 10% off your first month
🎙THE PODCAST (UNCENSORED)
Spotify ▸ open.spotify.com/show/5aOLuPe...
Apple ▸ podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
💥NEW YOUTOOZ FIGURE: youtooz.com/products/anthony-...
🧨HUGE thank you to Matt:
GAME THEORY: / @gametheory
TWITTER: / matpatgt
🗯MORE EPISODES…
▸ MARKIPLIER - • I spent a day with MAR...
▸ JACKSEPTICEYE - • I spent a day with JAC...
▸ LUDWIG - • I confronted Ludwig, o...
🎥Crew
▸ Creator, Director, Writer, etc. - Anthony Padilla
▸ Executive Producer - Alessandra Catanese
▸ Producer, Co-writer & Research - Elise Felber
▸ Director of Photography/Gaffer - Kathy Sue Holtorf
▸ Camera Operator - Amber Steele
▸ Social Media Manager - Mallory Myers
▸ Editor - Mike Criscimagna AKA Mork Crispy
▸ Assistant Editor - Patrick Horba
▸ Assistant Editor - Ash Duckworth
▸ Assistant Editor - Nikki Blacklock
▸ Sound Editor - Gareth Hird
▸ Post PA - Levi Villalpando
▸ PA - Joshua Dozier
▸ Thumbnail Artist - Dill Toma
▸ Captions - Davy Gerichten
🎵Theme Music Composer - Matt Good AKA The King of Emo
🖼Portrait painted by: Rhianna Robles - / zerogattsu
🦥Slade mascot built by: The Pastel Prince - / @theepastelprince
📺3D animations by: Jacob Dalton - / jacobdaltonvfx
📢BE ON THE SHOW
▸ If you are part of an underrepresented subculture or live a lifestyle you feel is not widely understood and would like to be interviewed by me, email inquiry[at]pressalike.com with your subculture in the title of the email.
❗️You dug this deep into the description. You owe it to yourself to subscribe ▶ kzbin.info_cent... or get more at / anthonypadilla & / anthonypadilla
0:00 INTRODUCTION
1:39 SELLING SMOSH
5:49 SELLING GAME THEORY
7:14 THE GENERATIONS OF YT
13:18 CHANGING ALGORITHMS
15:56 THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT
17:28 THE START OF GAME THEORY
21:21 SMOSH IGNORED MATPAT
22:58 SPONSOR
24:13 WHEN GAME THEORY BLEW UP
26:39 WORKING WITH A PARTNER
28:02 WHAT’S NEXT FOR THEORISTS?
31:07 A PADILLA THEORY
32:32 BLOOPER

[@AnthonyPadilla]

come back next week for *I spent a day with JIMMY TATRO* UNCENSORED ON SPOTIFY ▸ open.spotify.com/show/5aOLuPenneHbhLh05fmkeu

[@PhaseYouTube]

Ok

[@heart2mila]

Ily bb

[@Dogical]

Hey

[@Horangiverse]

Looking forward to it!

[@spiritwolf5774]

Hi Anthony 😊

[@GameTheory]

I've got a great idea: next time, we do an hour-long video of us walking down the street where we don't say anything the whole time. It'll be BRILLIANT!

[@phlogchamp]

Two bros chillin down the street 2 feet apart cuz they’re best friends

[@JoTheXplosiv]

Bromance

[@AnthonyPadilla]

the retention rate is going to be INSANE!!!

[@finixmoon127]

Surely that won't backfire

[@GamingFun-mf5zw]

Da best idea ever

[@NotBrock903]

Anthony should’ve asked Matpat, “What was in the box again?”, so he could witness him have a mental breakdown right infront of him about Fnaf Lore

[@duck8049]

Omg right

[@MultiKl]

I would have died

[@Creation_kitchen]

😂💀

[@literallyjustisaac3521]

Couldve gotten an entire video out of just that

[@HaverOfHands]

Theyre saving that for part 2

[@nprnilk]

KZbin: MatPat quits? Let’s recommend this video!

[@Astroxai27]

same

[@DuckityBoi]

I think Anthony should make another video with matpat after the retirement. I still will appreciate and love MatPat for what he has done for so many others, including me. And yes I did go through the 7 stages of grief for like 2 days, I recently already accepting that he is leaving, and it’s okay. Let’s all hope well for MatPat and Steph. ❤️🙏💚

[@ArianaVersace]

Damn it I came here to say this 😂😭

[@jax5261]

Fr

[@dubs67]

Fr

[@RealNinjaTimeKeepa]

Every time he talks about his wife he seems so genuinely into her. Not in a “wife guy” type of trash way, but in a “hey check out this amazing person….. who happened to have married me”

[@TheStudioArchitect]

What do you mean by "wife guy"? If you mean guys who refer to their wives as... their wives, that's just the normal English language my guy 💀 Edit: You'll never know...

[@celigalaxii]

​@@TheStudioArchitect Guys who use the fact they are married as a sort of marketing thing but very much don't actually value their wife or her contributions Let alone never naming said wife even though she is also a public figure Example Ned Fulmer, ex try guy

[@TheStudioArchitect]

@@celigalaxii I believe the word you are looking for is "asshole." Because, although you are 100% right here, saying "wife guy" just sounds goofy 💀

[@trifectas]

the bare minimum

[@RealNinjaTimeKeepa]

@@TheStudioArchitect but the term for it is “wife guy”….. it’s been around since about 2019…. Most of them end up the same way, with a cheating scandal. Adam Levine, John Mulaney, Ned Try Hard Fulmer, that’s the most notable three that you’ll hear associated with the term.

[@RosannaPansino]

Two of my favorite people! Cant wait to watch this ❤

[@EnergeticSpark63]

hey

[@angelaplays]

Omg Rosanna

[@ohbarbatos3255]

Omg wow

[@VirgilAtlas]

Ro! Hello Rosanna!

[@crystalclouds8687]

Ro omg hiii

[@aplila]

I’m living for this dynamic. Two KZbin veterans, chilling in an interview room, five feet apart.

[@tijdelijkeportfolio8538]

Cuz theire not gay

[@elenarexach9236]

but one of them is gay

[@john.4987]

@@elenarexach9236 which one??

[@YouTubeChannel-ru8ed]

@@elenarexach9236 Mat is married and Anthony has a girlfriend

[@maguyonseanlewis7696]

@@mostar1219 Ive never seen a post accusing either of them being gay. Well Athony does sometimes act gay in the old skits but its pretty obvious he has a GF

[@Rat_64]

I remember when I first learned about this channel, I didn’t know Anthony Padilla was Smosh. I was only really active on KZbin after Smosh had already faded away. When I learned that Anthony Padilla was one of the Smosh guys, it was like… learning that you’re dating a celebrity, or someone you knew was secretly an immortal vampire, or like the old hermit in the desert is actually a master wizard… or something like that. Anyways, I love these videos, Anthony, keep making great stuff

[@AnthonyPadilla]

D. all of the above

[@Sandwich_People]

Anthony padilla lore

[@Misshowzat]

Probably a good thing. He was the Logan Paul of his era

[@Diablo3364]

​@@Misshowzat don't compare Anthony to Logan Paul. We don't compare him to that insane freak.

[@Brosethorns]

@@Misshowzat he was not

[@KarimJovian]

This was a great interview. It was great to meet MatPat during the Assassins Creed premiere back then.

[@OhSoTiredMan]

Great vibes

[@angelaplays]

I’d like to thank matpat for being the reason why I over analyze things

[@simplyjay3638]

Same, though.

[@boob.rockets]

me fr

[@najrenchelf2751]

Oh, no doubt about it! XD

[@Niegekui]

Didn't expect to see another gang member on this channel

[@q_dudeq2828]

Him and all commentary youtubers

[@TheWarriorscat]

Matpat wearing his son’s bracelet is adorable. Best dad

[@braingoop]

I did NOT know he had a kid

[@paulstephens2861]

@@braingoop his son Oliver is like, 4/5 years old at this point.

[@ItBePatYo]

AKA Dadpat.

[@Bluekoala626]

fun fact: I don't know if he ever takes it off or not, but ever since he first appeared with it in one of his Game theory not lives he' been wearing it, if you watch them. it's pretty wholesome and adorable.

[@braingoop]

@@Bluekoala626 that is adorable, what a great dad

[@frankiecedeno3724]

Wait a minute… I just realized: the Smosh announcement happened the other day and Ian and Anthony have been working in it for about 6 months. That mean Anthony was in the process of getting back his channel (a literal dream) during this conversation about Mat selling his.

[@hitsurei]

Yepp

[@noahvanderwyst1232]

it also means that matpat probably knew he would be leaving the channel already

[@glist_gloom]

I would love to see MatPat and Anthony put together a 2 hour documentary about KZbin history

[@concept5631]

Same

[@Nick-oj5bh]

idk even in this video you can tell anthony still regrets and despises what happened with smosh I don't think he could give a unbiased opinion

[@concept5631]

@@Nick-oj5bh They never said it would be unbiased.

[@hugeleshawnafan8110]

i love this omg

[@0olilyo089]

Same!! I had so much fun hearing him mention the youtube generations and I got so excited!

[@ghostmistwho]

27:11 the devotion that Matt has to Stephanie and making sure that her work is recognized is truly inspirational

[@sarahisaraccoon2233]

+

[@sundalosketch4769]

Absolutely

[@silverhawkroman]

They made such an impact on me I couldn't possibly imagine it being only MatPat, and I'm not even a real casual fan!

[@Numberer1]

I've been editing for Matt for almost a decade, he's an absolute legend and a wonderful bloke. Couldn't ask for a better boss or a better team :)

[@alaneatsfood]

Man, I hope you know that i grew up with your work. Thank you

[@R1ze_humorous]

Nice you must be really fuckin good at editing

[@nightblade628]

I remember a comment by someone who went to school with Matt saying that everyone hears about how much of a dickhead some creators are before they became famous, but he’s like, “No no no, Matt was a bit reserved sometimes but was nice to EVERYONE and was hated by NOBODY back then”. So yeah, I only ever hear great stories about how genuinely awesome he is. And he did have a hard time when he was trying to find his feet before KZbin, so he knows what’s it’s like to have very little. Good for him for doing so well.

[@jblen]

No way, that's crazy. I'm a fan of your ytps, I had no idea you edited for GT.

[@justanothercomment]

Whoa you edit for GT? That's wild! No wonder their videos are so well edited

[@iiantixsocial]

MatPat is such a good partner to Steph. You can tell he genuinely loves and cares about her. I could tell he was getting emotional when discussing the hurt he feels when Steph doesn't get the attention she deserves

[@cainwallace]

Matt Pat has one of the most iconic KZbin voices. Theorist channels wont be the same if he doesnt voice them

[@DeathIsDestiny]

I agree. I always tried to avoid the videos with his editor’s (don’t remember their name) voice because I was so used to Matt’s

[@zyaicob]

*cries in Extra Credits*

[@whatcanidooo]

I agree but at the same time I understand that he might be tired of doing it after so many years

[@AstralBeing]

@@whatcanidooohe should get Ai to do it lol

[@Venator_X1]

@@DeathIsDestinyAh Austin. His videos were really fun but unfortunately or fortunately for you is that he’s no longer there due to personal life problems

[@NobodyNobody310]

I wanna see “I spent a day with Ian Hecox” and it’s just thirty full minutes of unbroken silence and awkward glances.

[@Bobo_bogart]

You made me giggle😫

[@talentlesscult8968]

Are Anthony and Ian still friends? I haven’t seen them interact since he left

[@ItsNerdNotGeek]

Even better: its 24 hours long

[@Giose]

@@talentlesscult8968 I've seen Anthony mention him sometimes, so i think they're at least on good terms (i hope they're still friends)

[@SquishyOfCinder]

@@Giose i think they are

[@theabruun1028]

Hearing MatPat explain the different generations of KZbin and basically being an encyclopedia of KZbin history is so interesting to listen to

[@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal]

Fax

[@Chuuniboy]

Everything he says at this point sounds like a history lesson or a grand wizard telling me my future

[@leiii05]

he's one of the internet historians

[@other7445]

you should watch some EmpLemon, he has a series going through historical events in youtubes history

[@hellokittygaming42069]

@@leiii05 bro that sounds like a legendary group of people in an rpg. "Hes one of the ashen soldiers"

[@someonelse11736]

Watching this after the matpat retiring video, there’s a surprising amount of foreshadowing

[@ziyahkeil4808]

MatPats face at 29:46 is one of confusion, shock, and happiness all in the span of a couple seconds

[@angelaplays]

This feels more like Matpat interviewing Anthony than Anthony interviewing Matpat

[@TheGreatShortdini]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@alondor]

They seem like friends

[@havewissmart9602]

Which is very appropriate

[@MsNoPixel]

I mean 70% of the time Matpat said “yep” “yeah” “yup” so I wouldn’t go as far to say he was interviewing Anthony.

[@Endtherinbetween]

yep

[@Kailova07]

MatPat making sure Steph gets the cred she deserves is the kind of husband I want to be.

[@LawsynRose]

You’re amazing

[@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331]

You already have the decency to acknowledge and respect your future lover, so you’ll do fine.

[@Kailova07]

@@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331 oh I mean like now lol I’ve been married just under a year now :)

[@bonemarrow3439]

Me too man

[@exceptionallyriso]

Doing the bare minimum is very surprisingly not common

[@Blebsnek]

watching this again after matpat announced his retirement

[@lonestarlucas]

It’s amazing to see MatPat be so loose and free without a script. And his body language shows how relaxed and comfortable he is, not just when it comes to talking about being a youtuber but also just in general. He sold his channel and he’s set. He doesn’t have to deal with the struggles of poverty anymore. Good for you, MatPat. ❤

[@danicarli8412]

It’s obvious these two are old friends because this feels more like a conversation than an interview 💜💚

[@SunIsLost]

True

[@shortcake9046]

Yeah I think interviews like this similar to the one with Dan are really fun and I think much more flowy and easygoing

[@willow_de_mori3754]

Yes, I love their chemistry and how they talk and react with eachother. You can tell that they are friends and that they both feel comfortable with eachother, it's awesome

[@xenophacilus5895]

The Taco Shell talk made it obvious XD

[@callmefaust6988]

I forget how smart MatPat truly is. And he's so engaging with all the information he shares too. I would love to attend a class he teachers. I think it would sound so fun haha

[@samanthakeith4925]

I would so attend his media courses at university

[@madmadammeag5141]

Some of the biggest KZbinrs are also the smartest. Markiplier was going into bioengineering, Mark Roberg worked for NASA, Mattpatt studied neuroscience, etc. There's genetesists, marketing geniuses, doctors, lawyers. It's endless, and awesome.

[@iloveprowrestling]

I'd also like to attend a class he TEACHES* 😂

[@greanbeen2816]

@@iloveprowrestling Brother. Out. Before I harm you and your family

[@itac.2280]

It’s really crazy how someone like MatPat; excellent grades, intelligence, valedictorian would be treated like that when he was looking for a job. Really knows that everyone regardless of their talent is treated like garbage. It also makes sense why he felt he had to put on a persona because none of what he had done before had been good enough for anyone, when it was them not being good enough for him.

[@NinetyLegos]

30:52 Matpat may have hinted he was thinking of Retirement a year before he annouced it right here

[@brainiac2977]

I know matpat is treated as this nutty character youtube stereotype (sans is ness, etc) but he is a youtube expert. man has survived on this platform as long as markiplier has which really says something. hes like the perfect guide for navigating youtube as a platform, as a business, and as a community. imagine if he made videos for aspiring creators teaching them how to grow a youtube channel with real statistics and that changed as youtube's own platform changed and evolved. its fascinating.

[@brentontreloar419]

Kind of like the channel Dude in a Room

[@dr.wolfstar1765]

Nah hes a pretender

[@ethanlockhart3985]

MatPat and Steph did used to do that, help newer KZbinrs navigate this landscape. Don’t know if they still do that though.

[@duckify2800]

@@ethanlockhart3985 i think matpat did an interview doing that recently

[@twbillionare9568]

Alright what is your reasoning. Why do you say he is a pretender

[@Abhi-wl5yt]

As described by Keith from TheTryGuys, MatPat has not only helped the YT community, he legitimized content creators in the creative space, and made the businesses (who otherwise would've never understand it) realize creators' influence. Without him, a lot of current channels might not even exist

[@prodfuneralboy]

524 likes with no comment? I’ll fix that.

[@sylvalis4295]

You my good friend are both a gentleman and a scholar

[@phantom_fox1088]

Bro speaking facts 🤌🏻

[@coralieofjumpwithnofear]

Where did Keith say this? I’m interested in watching that.

[@jonaswolterstorff3460]

I wonder whether the Vlogbrothers and MatPat share this trophy. It feels to me like they were all very critical for this legitimacy.

[@gachacamm]

this came into my recommended at the worst time possible 💀

[@curiousiveru]

Same :,)

[@tatltails3923]

I absolutely love that Anthony set aside a whole section for Mat to talk about his wife, Steph deserves all the love. Us classic GTLive watchers been knew, but the WORLD needs to know!

[@randomstuff-v10]

969th like hehehehhe

[@kittyratrawr]

@@randomstuff-v10 😐

[@I-like-cows]

1.6k likes hahahaha

[@mrmonkey123]

GTlive kindergarten videos were peak

[@SWTobito0702]

@@mrmonkey123 Nugget voice is peak

[@doopdoop7673]

To learn that Mat was VALEDICTORIAN, got a PERFECT SAT, somehow doesn't surprise me, it just gives me more mad respect for him.

[@Miss_Trillium]

And of course, one of his first game theory videos was on tiddies

[@chrislangstaff]

This reinforces something I've assumed for a long time...the whole "normal people can make YT/social media a career" is horseshit. MatPat is literally a fucking polymath superstar with a similarly amazing hot wife. If he wasn't winning at this, he would be a hedge fund billionaire or something. Padilla is a male model. etc. These aren't regular Joes that can be emulated.

[@christhefiend]

@@chrislangstaff Don’t let that discourage you.

[@Nirmiti.]

That makes his Mario is mental theory even _more_ stupid.

[@floop1108]

Tubbo…

[@mitsugilikesfood5309]

This aged more finer than any wine Welcome back to Smosh!!

[@realSerran]

I'm from the future. Anthony no longer regrets who currently owns Smosh. :)

[@Wntstoriseup]

I love the attention for Steph, I remember when GTLive first started and Steph got to be so front and center and I fell in love with her personality, she’s so great thoughtful and caring, with out taking into account all of her incredible skill set.

[@_helvetixa]

Same! Even though she isn’t on GTLive anymore, it’s nice seeing her appear in some food theory episodes every now and then!(I honestly didn’t expect me to enjoy food theory so much haha)

[@shadowphoenix3544]

And she also does the best nugget voice

[@BlackStarSymphony]

I miss her during gtlive. Matt and Steph just work so well together in terms of humor and how they play games. But I understand that she has other things taking up her time.

[@starshiny3399]

Yes!!! Steph getting long overdue recognition. She is a role model for me. Please please please please interview her. She has so much knowledge and creativity.

[@ProphecyPhrase]

Truth!! She is as much part of the Theory channels as much as MatPat is.

[@williamvanniekerk5608]

Hey could i ask you a question real quick?

[@starshiny3399]

@@williamvanniekerk5608 Sure.

[@thebestpilot7]

@@starshiny3399 Plot twist: that was the question

[@Jay9966]

@@thebestpilot7 What a twist, it's been 7 days, that must've been it.

[@IceMetalPunk]

Everything Matt said about Stephanie not being taken seriously makes me so sad. She's one of the best parts of the channels, in all the ways we've seen her and I'm sure countless ways we haven't. I've watched much less GTLive since Steph "left" the channel, and I secretly keep hoping there will be more Kindergarten sequels just so they have an excuse to bring her back on camera. Steph deserves all the love, respect, and support in the world ❤

[@owenehrlich]

The more I watch MatPat, the more I see that he's amazing in interviews and streams. He can perfectly flow from topic to topic while still making complete sense lol.

[@invisiblebutaintblind6582]

wow. wtf. I had no idea how much respect was to be had for Matthew. I had thought a lot of his success was due to luck, whether with finding the right things to analyse, or people stumbling across him online- now, I realise that with a personality, dedication and intellect like his, it almost doesn't matter how much lady luck favoured him. He feels like such an impressive force of nature here, that his success seems almost inevitable.

[@joseangelhernandez613]

It's funny you say that because all that theory stuff actually runs in his family where I think he said his father was also a theorists this was mentioned in a podcast between Markiplier and matpat where a lot more info is showed

[@jaredrak6003]

Well said! That's part of why I think his wife Steph is so important to work out. They're like a consultant team who've helped out plenty of KZbinrs directly. In a lot of ways I think this move to sell will help free some time for them to continue learning and exploring ways to help KZbin as a platform grow and be a great space for all creators

[@naphy]

this is why I love Anthony's interviews, it allows me to enjoy a creator even more, or start to emphatize with them, like in the case of amouranth

[@quantumwitcher]

I feel with platforms like KZbin, luck will always have to be in the equation to a degree. That being said, I'm confident there aren't many people that could accomplish what Matt has with any amount of luck. Even though I've fallen off his content the last few years, I always have massive respect for his work.

[@thend4427]

Yeah a lot of his haters don't understand

[@Ninetailsmaster16]

I adore their chemistry in this. That tangent about taco bell was gold

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

To me this just like two old friends getting together to shoot the shit

[@asianhotdog4755]

@@EndoftheBeginning17 yeah it Taco Bell

[@tomasinojonathan]

Wow, looking back after the recent news, it feels like this episode was the catalyst for Anthony coming back and repurchasing Smosh

[@Simpin4Robin]

Idk he said it was a year ago when this happened

[@richtigmann1]

it's crazy how you can just tell Matpat is so fluent and aware of all the ins and outs of how youtube as a platform works, it really shows his proficency and skill in understanding it all

[@aurorasheep]

You can tell how much MatPat loves and cares for Stephanie by the way he talks about her, he truly has so much respect and admiration for her and everything she has done, and you can tell he has always supported her and wanted her to be successful. Makes me respect him even more

[@HearingWall7238]

Try Guys

[@bryanaperry8760]

@@HearingWall7238 ah so now talking positively about one's spouse = cheater. That's... interesting.

[@HearingWall7238]

@@bryanaperry8760 I love MatPat and Steph, I just like bringing the cheater up when someone talks about loving their spouse

[@IeatcheeseLBB]

@@HearingWall7238are you mentally ok my guy?

[@TJToons]

Having two of the biggest goats bond and get along was so incredibly wholesome to watch. So many super helpful insight and tips were also brought up in this video! Thank you Anthony!! 🙏

[@RyanSoltani]

The 🐐s

[@biskits8472]

tjjj hi

[@h3heE]

Hello

[@critz3971]

TJ TOONS WASUP

[@TheAnimeDude]

🎉

[@TheAndromedaGalaxi]

Hearing about people ignoring steph’s ideas just to compliment matt for the exact same thing is heartbreaking. Steph is amazing and I always think of her when I think of the channel. She deserves so much love and appreciation and whoever pulled that sh*t needs to get their head outta their a** because she deserves all the credit for that idea.

[@symliadoo]

I'd kill to hear MatPat go on a deep dive about KZbin eras ngl I loved this interview!! It was super fun- I didn't know they both knew each other for so long!

[@marljusweety]

I think Matthew and Stephanie might be the only creators that could announce selling the company without me immediately thinking "Oh, this will ruin the channel and its just a matter of time until its all gone.". I know they have more knowledge about the business part of youtube than anyone else and I actually trust their decisions. It was just "OK. Im ready for this to be the example of how it can be done successfully.". Still a tiny flutter in my stomach, but I choose to go with my instinct and knowledge. Its gonna be fine.

[@m_artroom]

For real, I’m depending on them so much. If anyone on KZbin was qualified enough to make this decision well it’s gonna be game theorists. Makes everyone a bit nervous but this I’m really trying to trust some of the smartest people on the internet

[@plumjammed]

i seriously love hearing matpat talk analytics, he’s so knowledgeable and i’ve always thought it was amazing that he acted as a consultant for so many other creators while creating for his own channels.

[@mevoogle]

Matpat got that insider knowledge about what makes channels good and large and profitable fr

[@codyjohnson6427]

Matpat and Mr. Beast should sit down and nerd out about youtube for an hour

[@LilacMonarch]

That part about no one caring about the presentations and then disregarding the main points he got across, that was painful. Every organization ever...

[@OllieOxyn]

WOAH LOOKING BACK AT THIS TITLE NOW HE'S BEEN PLANNING

[@jesiksVondeck8145]

Honestly everytime I hear Matpat say "in hopes to find another job" just melts my heart because that's what i heard my dad say when i was growing up. So much respect 🙏

[@dragnbane]

I've ALWAYS appreciated how MatPat always treated his viewers like we were a part of the channel, and not an afterthought

[@Jamjosh]

It's my belief that matpat sits at home with 5 different youtube videos playing at any given moment at 2x speed just to constantly be in the know.

[@RayzaRose]

He does say he watches most videos at 2x speed now, especially after Ollie was born

[@UnfazedPhoenix]

It's interesting how many of the original top youtube creators felt like they had to maintain a persona. It's really great to see them be themselves and grow into the confidence that they are enough without a persona.

[@hamingnu6610]

Definitely. I think it was definitely exemplified by the Vine boom where, like them or not, you had a bunch of creators who came in because they had token personalities. I'm not saying their fans loved them for those archetypal or 'token' personalities, but they were able to capture an increasing audience because their 'thing' could be summed up in a few words, or in a 6-second video every week. The original KZbinrs didn't think they could compete because Viners had to inherently play around a much lower attention-span (and therefore quicker but more 'juicy' content) and a much more mobile-oriented environment, where one's 'relevance' and ability to stay on the platform with a consistent amount of clicks would've had a much shorter lifespan than a typical KZbinr. I'm not saying that's bad, what I'm saying is that - there would've been an advantage to doing that - that the original KZbinrs wouldn't have had from the get go. So, one of the things they could do to inhibit a quick shift into this totally different paradigm just to compete with the Viners was to use a single persona that they could bend and shape at will just to succeed. They could no longer just make a video they wanted to make on a saturday evening, telling their viewers about how their day went - they had to be a personality because a bunch of these creators from other platforms were coming in, already born with archetypal and bombastic personalities. A lot of these Viners had already streamlined what would come to be a much more clickable format, and the only way for the original KZbinrs to compete was to ditch the flexibility of old laid-back KZbin, and to adopt the streamlining and content optimization that would have already been subconsciously well understood by the Viners - with the biggest part being that you now also had to completely optimize your persona as well just to stay relevant. But now that a lot of these people are well established and have gone years making a relatively stable living: they're no longer worried about making too many compromises just to stay 'relevant'. Sure, you still have to do a load of work to 'stay', but you no longer need to do much to keep up. There is no longer enough change happening on YT that warrants the entire present creatorbase to suddenly do an annual shift in what they want to do just to continue getting views, and thus easing your viewerbase to a much more genuine 'persona' is finally completely doable.

[@analixir]

Here we are now, in 2024, January 9th, With Mat’s announcement

[@gamma_centauri]

I like how this episode feels less like an interview and more like a conversation between homies who haven’t spoken in a couple months.

[@TheStudioArchitect]

Hell yeah! Love these guys! I don't agree with everything MatPat and Anthony say/believe, but they are both really fun and likeable guys! This video was awesome! Edit: You shall never know what this reply said before the (edited) tag was added. >:)

[@Flairis]

to be fair, the title just says he just spends a day with matpat

[@demi_goddex]

shout out to Davy for the immaculate captions. not only are they not auto generated, AND includes stuff like who's talking and [character voice] etc. but also describes the convo so well?? like. [belly laughing] and [guffaw] when they could've just said laughing but they specified. idk man I just think that the people doing the captions don't get enough recognition and as someone who almost always uses subtitles i really appreciate it

[@davydoesthings]

omg thank you so much 😭😭

[@farawayxgalaxy]

Yesss!!!! People who do captions fully help me so so so much. I’m hard of hearing in one ear and also have ADHD to point I need captions to focus. People who do their captions seriously or who have fun with their captions make my days. Same with people who do trigger or content warnings. It’s the small things in life

[@kawaranai9743]

@@davydoesthings thanks for the personality you put into the subs Makes my day

[@sugarkats21]

I agree but that's the standard for proper caption writers and transcribers

[@sumans7620]

@@sugarkats21 Which are Sadly Too Rare on Not just KZbin, but most Platforms Nowadays. It’s Come to the Point where Accessible, Actually Comprehensible Captions like these are Less the Standard and More the Outlier for Content in General. Captions are Mostly Auto-Generated and Poorly Structured outside a Few Specific Channels here on KZbin.

[@djace5000]

Revisiting this after MatPat announced his retirement, we should have seen the signs!

[@Mr.Bob-Gray]

the fact that i just got this video in my recommended 💔

[@tommyvasquez2708]

this didn't feel like an interview anymore but more like two friends catching up which made this video feel much more organic

[@ohnotagain851]

This was one of the best episodes. It was all so natural and nice. And man, he's so smart. And hearing him talk about how he had to literally force people to pay attention to someone else other than himself just warms my heart. And saddens me in equal measure. Thank you, both, for existing. It's been a horrible day, but this video made it 100 times better.

[@Kit-ux4vp]

Frr cause Stephanie is equally as hard working

[@justanothercomment]

Sorry you had a tough day! Glad the vid made it better. Nothing like wholesome Anthony videos after a rough one eh? :)

[@Cass-so8uj]

I so glad Mat and Steph found this much success. I love who they are as people.

[@Silver-CC]

Oda level foreshadowing 😭😭

[@ry2950]

This is nostalgic as hell. Anthony's days in Smosh was an era of KZbin that will forever be ingrained in my memory. Even though I miss the "good ol days" I'm happy to see how well he is doing right now.

[@mythicalpotatoes8832]

MatPat saying "of course I am!!" at the end was so unbelievably wholesome

[@naparasmon788]

Right? Damn they both have such a cool dynamic together

[@victoriale2792]

omg even though I read this comment before the end, it still caught me off guard with such warm feelings!!🥰

[@bluemikuhow2092]

Talk about forshadowing

[@imatiredstudent2081]

I’m actually really intrigued by Anthony and Matpat’s previos work relationship. Like, now they talk as equals, both having their respective channels, but back then? Well, Anthony was clear he didn’t like the direction the company was taking his channel, while Matpat seems to have been a big part in deciding what that direction was! Like, board meetings and stuff! These guys have such a long history I didn’t know existed!

[@hitsurei]

Nope, doesn't look like it. Matpat has no power over their channel, he's just a data analytic person.

[@rubis5904]

"I didn't feel like people would accept me for me, because historically they really didn't." Man I feel that SO much.

[@nat2501]

Anthony has come a long way building his new brand and channel outside of Smosh, so watching him talk about the company so candidly feels really nostalgic. It would be cool one day to see Anthony spend the day with Ian, and they can reflect on how much they’ve both grown since early smosh days.

[@Crucent]

Oooh i'd love that. If that were to happen, i hopehopehope they'd do a lunchtime with SMOSH-kind of ting. I really miss those. Questions and all.

[@Helios2737]

"I Spent a Day with Ian Hecox" has to come soon

[@the_snailll]

This is one of my favorite "I spent a day with" interviews. It was very entertaining to see how you guys interact with each other. I had no idea you guys got along like this.

[@spacegames2270]

This video was such a breath of fresh air, the conversation flowed so well and naturally, you could really see the passion that both of them have for their jobs and it was so nice to listen to both of them go on tangents and discuss the things they love, a really good video

[@sarhahillsburg5142]

Let's all take time to appreciate Matpat still wearing bracelet his son made for him. It just so sweet. I think is same one Olly came in mid video (GT LIVE) and brought him lil gift.

[@Hydraina]

Thank you so much for pointing this out!!! I am literally crying that's so amazing

[@sunstruck2298]

if you remember which video it is can you give me the link??

[@WorldMania03]

You gotta leave a link, cause I wanna see it.

[@Aphrothena1221]

Also following for the link

[@ll-owo-ll]

Leaving a comment for the link

[@adam_joestar]

this honestly feels like two friends catching up and talking about the past

[@ktheveg]

Kinda is. MatPat worked for Defy for a bit, and he also helped Anthony as well

[@adam_joestar]

@@ktheveg yeah, exactly

[@godlymarine]

Genuinely smiled at this, I've watched Mattpatt and Smosh since the beginning and they deserve all the success that they have received, I hope they continue to do great things. Godspeed gentlemen.

[@ijudgetakes]

:( got recommended this when matpat said he's stepping down.

[@ellanimation816]

Yeah he’s gone now

[@BenedictMpeti]

This was horrible timing 😭😭

[@itsAniq.]

@@BenedictMpetino fr 😭

[@FeFeVtuber]

As a content creator this was one of the most insightful & entertaining interviews yet! Love both of you 🙏🏻❤️

[@someoneanimations3617]

How is this type of a content creator verified

[@TheAnimeWeeb]

@@someoneanimations3617 yes

[@Feesh116]

@@someoneanimations3617 they worked their ass off networking, making music and making content on many platforms. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Luis-kv8zc]

@@someoneanimations3617 common SomeoneAnimations L

[@zabianreubens4989]

@@someoneanimations3617 talent get some

[@wispyluma76]

It’s kind of hard to believe how far matpat has come. I was seven when I started watching him and now I’m an adult moving into an apartment next month. It’s just crazy to think about.

[@axelmok498]

I mean, the channel started in 2009. If you started watching it in its heyday, you're no older than 21, which adds up.

[@lapvona]

yeah i’ve done the same and i’m really proud of how far he’s gotten

[@tumultuousv]

@@axelmok498 well.. yeah

[@tumultuousv]

@@axelmok498 got it memorized?

[@axelmok498]

@A B LOL sorry if my comment seemed dumb, I just see alot of comments 😅 of people saying they watched the channel X amount of years but the math don't add up. Just appreciating the math works.

[@Gerard-Downes]

Who else is revisiting this after matpat’s announcement?

[@paulwilson2204]

I get the sense that these two are perfect examples of intuitive vs informed thinking. Anthony hits a lot of points where he's reasoning conclusions and thoughts with his experiences/discussions where Matt is able to agree, support and expand those points with his in-depth knowledge of the system. It's just a pleasure to watch.

[@cXspXr]

matt is so wholesome, he truly has so much care and passion for an industry that doesn't share even a %1 of that passion. hearing him break down the eras, talk about stephanie, talk about his past history (with acting and analytics), along with his struggle to get a job aside from his intelligence. he's a treasure and i'm glad he's survived in this space

[@fictionlover695]

MatPat is inspirational I wanna strive to be like him in terms of Competence and compassion

[@wasupitshanna]

The amount of times as a woman becoming a physician I have been in a group of men and that same situation happened to me where a man says my ideas louder and they are acutally heard has been too many to count. I continuously have to prove myself by being asertive and repeating myself before my ideas are considered as equal to my male colleagues. I feel for Steph so much I am so glad she is getting more credit.

[@reizak8966]

I am the only female in my job, so I completely understand. The people I've worked with for years listen to me, but every time we get a new guy, I have to work harder than everyone else to prove that I deserve the job and know what I'm doing, where everyone else, even the other new guys, are assumed to know more than me. I am so tired.

[@hiddenguy67]

ok..

[@aarishowton8037]

Exactly. People always discount the wage gap by saying ‘women choose to work lower-paying jobs’ but so often that’s because the more specialized fields are extremely sexist.

[@BlueHazyDreams]

@@aarishowton8037 Lol yep. I actually would love to go into programming if I could do college over but nah, would rather not subject myself to that. I also highly question why some of the most emotionally-taxing jobs are super low paid.

[@alextwig]

@@hiddenguy67ust say you hate women 👎🏽

[@tensubde]

This was such a fun video. I always feel like the more I learn about MatPat the more impressed I am by him.

[@hannahmew9194]

I love podcasts when you can tell the people are great friends because there’s so much chemistry

[@shutdown970]

It's not just an interview it's a MATPAT INTERVIEW!!!

[@Questerer]

Thanks for watching!

[@StrudlAnimations]

Thanks for talking!

[@shutdown970]

@@StrudlAnimations Thanks for commenting!

[@StrudlAnimations]

@A-Opal Candy that's a better one and also HA

[@najrenchelf2751]

Shoutout to Stephanie for being a rock in the storm for Matpat! 💚💚

[@madisongreve1224]

This hurts after the announcement. But also finding out mat worked for defy is killing me💀 talk about enemies to lovers.

[@LivingGuy484]

Seeing this now, I'm very happy with how things turned out for Anthony and Ian!

[@Nobodyavailablefornow]

Who knew that he would retire😂 These are tears of sadness 😢

[@RyanSoltani]

I’m calling it now. Matpat is going to pull the rug on everyone and make the next channel Stat Theory: An education channel that goes in depth on the lore of all the academics. From the hidden meaning behind the digits of Pi, to the history of the square Edit: Well looks like it was Style Theory, was fun guessing with you guys

[@liesl5313]

I would honestly really love that. It would work well as kind of a casual crash course

[@kenna_king100]

I like Science Theory:) lots of stats in science, and a lottttt of science theory’s😂😅

[@Ali_D_Katt]

Sports theory, maybe? He even mentioned sports guys being geeks too in this interview. I think science theory and stat theory would be higher on the list of possibilities. Having watched him over a huge portion of his career, knowing what he went to school for and his interests shown through his current channels. Then again sports fans are a possibly untapped audience. While I'm not saying sports fans don't have any overlap with his game, film, and food channel I think it'll just sweep those folks to add to the pile.

[@adamnaameeazim6365]

I think they've already hinted that it'll be Fitness Theory, or something of the sort. I remember him and Stephanie talking about this around when Food Theory started. They said they had considered Music Theory but there were too many copyright concerns with KZbin.

[@iacomary]

Science Theory, Sports Theory, Sound Theory, Space Theory... Can't come up with anymore

[@theflabbergasterer8340]

I feel like the Theorists channels are some of the only channels that you'll never really age out of. You can be just as interested in them when you're eighteen as you were when you were eight

[@drewpeacock9087]

Lmao no they definitely skew zoomer. Tom Scott is a much better example imo

[@theflabbergasterer8340]

@@drewpeacock9087 Now I need to see Anthony interview Tom Scott lol

[@BringBackOGClubPenguin]

@@drewpeacock9087 I mean they’re made with a younger audience in mind but it isn’t like dumbed down or anything. It’s like movies or shows that can be enjoyed by both kids an adults.

[@starscream8388]

@@drewpeacock9087 What do you think a Zoomer is? Millennials are like 40 now, and the cut off for Zoomers is actually the late 2010s.

[@arugula517]

@@drewpeacock9087 I am a zoomer, I am 18, I watched him when i was 8 so checks out ig

[@kayleemoreno2050]

ahh I absolutely loved this episode! props to both of you and how much you both have grown over time! crazy how long its been!!

[@Shrimphat]

100% the plan to take the channel again was born from this video

[@boredape1986]

Maybe this contributed but according to Ian and anthony they've been planning this since last year

[@Cartmanchill]

I could listen to MatPat talk about the functionality of KZbin all day. He's so passionate about it, and you could learn a thing or two.

[@GlowstoneWolf]

i love it when matpat talks. i hope he does the hr long video on bioavailability that he mentioned in a food theory video

[@olivetreee5021]

anthony and matpat making a podcast is something we all need

[@TN-uu3xk]

I love how you connect, it was great to watch you just go through random stuff naturally

[@VoidyintheVoid]

I CAN’T BELIEVE I HADNmT SEEN THIS WHEN IT CAME OUT! I’ve been DYING for an episode with MatPat ever since I watched the KZbinr Interview and I was SO upset that our favorite man in Green, Red, Yellow, and Blue hadn’t been on! Now he’s finally here! Yippee!

[@Coco-Loco]

MatPat is absolutely adorable, he's so nerdy and cool and knowledgeable. Both Steph and Mat work so well together I'm so happy for them! Wishing to see what's in the store for the Theory channels

[@AlottaBoulchit]

I agree entirely! They're so cute and I love seeing them both in videos together! It's wholesome and refreshing in this chaotic world that feels full of meanness so often. I'm so excited for the new channel! Also: Memento Mori!! 🖤🤍

[@lexieconner4347]

Momento mori ❤

[@cha1rie]

hella interesting that matpat used Anthony's mistakes to learn what not to do

[@RobwithoneB]

As much as I dont watch things like Smosh or Game Theory nearly as much as I used to in my adult years, I actually really enjoyed this because it was a visit to the older side of the creators that I loved so much in my younger years being in school. It was really cool to see 2 of my all time favorite creators as a kid sitting down and discussing the reality of how things used to be vs how they are now. Im glad to see both of you guys doing well and making content youre happy with, with minimal limitations. Peace and love to both you guys