I Survived my first 12,000w SUR RON 72v electric bike ride!

[@JuicedJoyrides]

See what happened on my top speed run 🤪 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJuVaWqhe8x2fa8

[@russwoodward8251]

I watch sometimes from work and Matt's videos just make me want to go ride my bike. Great test and a good example of what other battery upgrades can do for bikes. Thanks!

[@fooliganvlogs]

Thing is badass!

[@SS-ln3dg]

The launch at 30 is dope 💥

[@therealbojak]

I used to live near you, up against the bluffs. It's really cool seeing my old stomping grounds in your videos. I got kicked out of that same business complex over by KAWS many times. I still work for a company near you. Such a cool place to live, but I had to leave for personal reasons.

[@KevinKvn69]

In the video it doesn't feel like you going that speed ,but in real life i know the feeling of the speed is awesome

[@mcbrite]

11:52 That sounds like something that should be connected to permanent power may be connected to switched power? I had that before for example with an aftermarket HiFi-Nav Unit for my car. For my specific car, the wires for permanent power and ignition only power was SWITCHED! So I lost all my settings and all my calibration every time I turned off the car and back on again. Took me ages to figure out, was 18 at the time with my first car... 😀

[@urbanlegends4379]

to fix the key on and off problem look up emotobros switching to 72v battery video they explain everything i myself am about to watch that video because i ordered the same 72v from chi as you about a month ago.

[@carson7466]

To fix your problem you need to go to the emb app and make changes I hav the 72v and had that problem make sure that you have your settings correct

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Thanks man, a few have pointed this out, I had no idea, I am going to do it tomorrow

[@DailyWalt]

Lol..welcome to the Club..ive been doing torrance beach to 3rd street promenade 3 days a week now...I usually head out around 8am..im probably going to do Wednesday this week..let me know if you want to meet up..

[@repo4sale]

I miss riding the Santa Monica to Redondo Beach Boardwalk.... what your on!!!

[@JuicedJoyrides]

It’s the best 🤙

[@John-uc6gb]

WOW... what a bike. Good video. Thank you

[@jasonhartless3797]

Did you have to get a 12 volt output for your eggrider v2 since your battery is more than 60 volts?

[@ethanweckwert]

Just did a top speed run today on my bike, it has 12" wheels, curious too see how much faster you can go with the bigger wheels! Also the problem with it not turning on, did you set the system voltage in the emoto bros app to 72v? Not just in the egg rider?

[@carson7466]

Ya you need to change in emb app

[@KoalaTeaa]

What speed did you get with the 12”?

[@HotdogSosage]

Why would you not clarify the speed?

[@shanebehling4552]

Why didn’t you do the top speed?

[@klopez784]

Does it require registration and license required?

[@pokingfun4008]

if you wanna get good at launching try leaning forward when hitting the throttle hard

[@GlassfilmWeddings]

Range test bro! Go 100 - 10% please!

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Coming later this week!

[@KoalaTeaa]

What do you think of KO controller?

[@arash_misses_papa]

Can you ride those in California roads 12,000w bike?

[@LzyCube]

does the higher wattage translate to speed?

[@connorbatty5078]

I wish Australia was as chill about these bikes as the U.S you get caught riding one of these on the street and it's a fine for riding an unregistered motor vehicle. We can get a road legal version but you need a motorbike license to ride it on the road and then you need to pay registration (every 3, 6 or 12 months) and you also need insurance. If you ride the regular Sur Ron on the bike paths we have available you get a fine for riding an un-registered motor vehicle on the footpath and if there's pedestrians on the same strip you can also be charged with additional fines if the cops feeling like a jerk. Cant really justify buying one now if they cost $6.5k and you can only ride them on dirt bike trails, so I'll get my fix from you 🤣

[@afrobiker]

I feel your pain 😓 Your are 100% right, they don't come with the versatility here that they have in the US and other countries. They are pretty much just an expensive 'weekend toy'.

[@EssPhour]

Its only a matter of time here in the US, they have plenty of ammo via video as to why to start regulating the segment more, I think they just want the segment to get more traction, with more people using them before they bring the hammer down.

[@lofty92]

Typical Australia ,wanted to move there years ago,but there car laws are even worse..

[@goofy_stuntz6022]

Aye buddy do you have the emoto bros controller? If so Ik how to fix the 72v problem

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Yes it is, please do elaborate!

[@goofy_stuntz6022]

@@JuicedJoyrides when you log into the bike put the 60v battery on the 2 battery slot and the 72v in the first it worked for me I hope it works for you let me know

[@goofy_stuntz6022]

And logging into the emoto bros tuner and makes sure it says you’re on the 72v

[@capbell9358]

if this work i wanna know

[@64hillstead]

What is your favorite e bike, step thru

[@kaysav6891]

Best wheels for street/grass riding ? Was looking at sm pros with cst c-186

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I’m running shinko 244s, made a few videos with/about them on my channel. They are great for street riding, a bit heavy but better than stock for most riding I do. They do fine off road but works consider 241s next time for more grip but less tread life due to softer compound

[@mendo_cat7075]

Late to the party here. I'm not sure if you figured it out, but you can set the controller to 72v on startup with the emoto bros app. They have a video on it.

[@joem8601]

Worth mentioning it’s not the same at all with less phase amps on a BAC4000 controller I have the BAC4000 he has the BAC8000 I save some battery. So by using less phase amps, ideally you don’t need to set your eggrider to mode 9 unless you’re hauling ass

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I’m not sure what you mean here, can you explain more? I’m on the bac4000

[@joem8601]

@@JuicedJoyrides That’s weird, are you using the stock sprocket?

[@joem8601]

@@JuicedJoyrides my front wheel doesn’t go up like that unless I’m going slower and putting effort into it

[@bslothed3211]

@@joem8601 He's using a 54 tooth sprocket

[@ahmadhs89]

so cool i have 60v im thinking to upgrade the 72v as soon

[@JuicedJoyrides]

You won’t be disappointed

[@maplehouseknives]

Awesome test, was looking forward to this video! I suspect that the issue you spoke of when shutting down is a "quirk" because of the after market battery. I'm confident you'll figure it out. Must have been a shift change w/ the cops, careful w/ the roll stops at stop signs, you'll get busted! Cool vid! Greetings from Germany 🍻👍

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Thanks! Hope to figure it out soon! Cops are always on shift change in LA 😂, happy October fest 🍻

[@noahm6261]

california is the only state in america where you can do this, its called a california stop lol

[@lee4macs]

My friend, Los Angeles is the polar opposite of Germany when it comes to following laws. Germans are hellbent on following every rule whereas most of LA is basically lawless. Police don't have time to deal with anything but serious crimes.

[@GlassfilmWeddings]

i also hope you dont melt your motor lol. I have mine stock cause its fast enough and i want reliability as i use it to communte

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Hoping for the same, we shall see. 6 months ago I was saying the same thing about fast enough and reliability 😆

[@mattwhite-0564]

Is it wow because it’s faster then the slower top speed or it’s fast cause it’s not even fast until 15000 watts or more

[@teeb174]

what wattage and make of motor is it?

[@Steviewonderwhy]

I don’t know what to get a regular e-bike that’s goes 28mph legal class 3 limit or a fast e-bike dirt bike

[@JuicedJoyrides]

That’s what I was trying to decide before I got this. I highly recommend the latter, however, depending on law enforcement in your area it may or may not make sense for you

[@Steviewonderwhy]

@@JuicedJoyrides In Nevada, a bicycle can qualify as an electric bike instead of a moped if it has an engine that is 750 watts or fewer and it goes no faster than 20 miles per hour. In addition, electric bikes must have pedals and must be generally recognizable as a 'bicycle'. I’ll just get the pedal

[@robertwigh8621]

can you post the electrichal components iused please,wanna build the same,please.

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I updated the description box to show the parts used in my build

[@FixedLondon98]

You sound like Andrew from Big Mouth and I can't unhear this. Dope video tho.

[@kemimoto_official]

Awesome Test Matt! Are you still not receiving the emails we send you? Thank you and let us know:)

[@theknifedude1881]

Where did you get your controller? I keep seeing “out of stock”, @ E Moto Bros. I’m thinking about KO MOTO. Any info you would care to pass on?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I got mine from emoto, but if I could do it again I’d probably get it from green line so I can have the Regen brake throttle. bit.ly/BAC4000 Discount Code: JUICED15 (if you wanna save $15 and help support my channel)

[@JuicedJoyrides]

And I don’t know much about the KO yet

[@SaltCreep45]

Why do your bars look bent on the left side ?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Perhaps they are? The bike has been dropped a couple times 😆

[@Redfoxsurron]

Emoto bros should be able to remote flash a tune into your controller so you don’t have to do the work around any more! Give them a call

[@jamescooper5183]

This guy is riding in the GTA 5 map, so cool!

[@JuicedJoyrides]

😂

[@pockit57d.a.d.68]

How much is the upgrade ??????

[@JuicedJoyrides]

$3k in power upgrades

[@EMTBOllie]

Can someone explain to me the point of these bikes? What's the reason for getting one? Just seems like a really slow motorbike and not a real emtb ?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

You can ride them anywhere, and they’re a blast because the power to weight ratio is really high

[@syirrus]

Nice! I wonder how a 134v bike would be like EUCs

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I’d like to try

[@misc.2682]

Hopefully theres a top speed run in the range test. You didn't even go as fast as my stock bike goes.

[@givemethatfilletfish]

Dude was literally scared to open it up 😂

[@electro2606]

Is the bike made fore this battery voltage???

[@JuicedJoyrides]

It can handle it no problem

[@knucksgaming_fb3063]

Link to purchase this beast?

[@DarthLink1986]

So sick! Thanks for sharing!

[@JuicedJoyrides]

🤙 thanks for watching

[@muhannadabdullah4494]

From where i buy this bike ?

[@BricktopsPigs]

I don't have a bike just stumbled on this vid. My question is-is there a way you could put power to both wheels to enable you to get more power down without popping the front.

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Not in this bike, check out my Pedal Electric review

[@jessewhitely322]

Hey man I had a question I'm going to purchase a battery I'm debating on going with chai battery or this brand called ewatt motor clops sells them what would you do because I know you got a chia battery

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Not sure on that other brand, but I’m happy with my chai

[@petermelnyk7664]

That thing sounds awesome.

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Need to try belt drive eventually

[@sunnydays3476]

How fun 🤩 🤘🏻

[@itssjuice_]

How do you get one

[@bongwoophet]

Perhaps you should use the GLE Dashboard, than, you won't need the eggrider display. I returned mine back to GLE.

[@reflex6003]

he has the emoto bros version

[@elgringoec]

Ooh, 12 Thousand Watts! That's a whopping 16 horsepower.

[@JuicedJoyrides]

haha, well when you put it that way....

[@elgringoec]

@@JuicedJoyrides 😂 Gotta keep perspective. A small (300cc) motorcycle engine can deliver 49HP on a 230lb package. A 2HP motor is about the max a standard house outlet circuit can support. And pushing the board through the table saw too fast can mean a trip to the breaker box to reset it. A 16HP electric motor is heavy industrial stuff! Weigh around 300lbs, use over 60A continuous at 240Vac, cost around six grand. With an output shaft of 1-5/8" to withstand the torque. These small, low-mass motors for bicycles can't put out that kind of power or they'd liquify. And notice how they advertise "1,500 watts" instead of using the traditional convention of 1.5kW. Same reason they advertise prices like $9.99 instead of $10.00. Mind games.

[@aco3495]

do. you have a link for the battery

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Not yet, Chi has not replied to any of my emails or requests to promote as an affiliate yet. Wish they reply to me soon, I’m a fan of their battery

[@abdishakzsomar]

Can you give me link to get your Surron

[@Project_AAA]

What app is he using for stats?

[@quadzilla2854]

Sorry if this question was posted in a previous video. I just found your channel. What is your current dollar amount invested in this? Yea im researching what to buy! Thanks for your time

[@JuicedJoyrides]

This build is about $8500 right now

[@chuck2351]

@@JuicedJoyrides 8500?! Can we get one for maybe closer to two thousand that is similar but less costly. Like a cheaper version

[@animalmake7149]

awe i was gonna go 96v ... but tonight will be my last ride 48v

[@Theo-de-Koning]

*12,000W / 72V = 166.67A* How tick are your electric wires? Between 125 A - 160 A 35 mm2 cable

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I have no idea, whatever they ship 😆

[@wissamr3034]

Just a question u can ride it on the high way?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Haha, it’s possible, but not really, too sketchy at high speed above 50 or 60

[@Withered_Souls187]

Oh a heavy front is pretty good, I don’t wanna do wheelies lol

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Haha, valid point, does make the bike more manageable and less of a death trap

[@capbell9358]

yo so what is the range change from the 72v battery more or less

[@capbell9358]

also i love your videos

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I think about 40% boost, new vid coming in a few days detailing the range

[@sanitarsasha3730]

the difference between 72v and 62v is only in speed, the higher the voltage, the higher the speed, the higher the amperage, the longer it will go and the higher the power, but the change in voltage and amperage must occur with the change in the motor, that is, the motor, the controller, the battery amperage must match each other , if there is no compliance, something will fail sooner rather than later

[@JAF777]

So fun to see these videos in my local riding spots. Do a full speed test behind google! 😂

[@CollinFleming]

Ive had my surron for a couple months now and my stock 60v battery with controller does that to me with the throttle randomly. Although turning on and off a few times corrects is. hopefully you get it figured out or a work around from having to do it every time.

[@vaporware666]

It's from turning the key and then trying to use the throttle too fast possibly, worked for me

[@JuicedJoyrides]

i figured it out, apparently there is a way to do it in the EMB app, which i wasn't aware of at the time, a commenter told me about it so thanks to them! also apparently there was a motor calibration i needed to do.... oops

[@jimlahey5354]

Plug in the diagnostic harness to the battery and see how many LED blinks you get. Number of LED blinks corresponds to an error code. It may be that your kickstand, tilt sensor, throttle, something else maybe causing an issue.

[@WEGGY1]

How mach this bike

[@JuicedJoyrides]

$4300 stock, This build is about $8k with all the upgrades

[@rhysbone188]

is this in MPH or KPH?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Mph

[@barkbros123]

Yea the bike becomes a bit more fragile but overall It’s a great upgrade 💪💯, if your doing crazy stunts you have to make sure your strap and set up is perfectly Set up if not you will be getting an error code over and over due to the battery banging everywhere…

[@noahm6261]

not really a good enduro setup, it rather buy 1 or 2 extra batteries and a larger sprocket for ripping around in the dirt

[@barkbros123]

It’s true, if ur going to off-road it’s not a good idea 🤦‍♂️

[@xghostyxjokerx]

What app is this you using to measure speed? Phone app?

[@mgsv_morbidslinky]

The way he connected it to the eggrider I think it's the companion app, but I don't have an eggrider to confirm on that

[@stevebonnici8472]

How much did you pay for that thing?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I don’t wanna talk about it 😆, probably like 8-9k

[@chuck2351]

Do u have a license plate on it when u drive? Can u get away with not registering it? I want one that i can get away with not registering but i dont want a slow 20 mph bike e bike either. Do the cops mess woth you?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Is been fine around where I live, I guess the rules are more strict in some cities than others though

[@xymaryai8283]

i keep forgetting all these videos are in MPH, i keep scoffing at it like "meh, my e-scooter can squish that in a race" then i do the conversion and i'm like DAMN

[@xymaryai8283]

15mph is meh, 22 is fun, 30 is yooo, 45 is bonkers, 60 is stupid

[@JuicedJoyrides]

😆 I know there are faster builds out there, but this one is a blast so far

[@D3LB0Y]

was that mph or kmh ?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Mph

[@davidk4738]

what sur ron model is that?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Sur Ron X, although it’s heavily modified at this point

[@GaelLazerYT]

This is sweet man its so fun to watch these videos of yours

[@dontknowbetternameatm]

what is this place? so beautiful

[@JuicedJoyrides]

West LA

[@evelynoclaret4689]

We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. kzbin.infoUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!

[@BartMolkenboer]

Man would love to have one of these bikes, love it how fast they are! What is the top? I am wondering 😃

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I’m guessing 70s, will attempt this week 😜

[@georgee4097]

Hey dude, sweet video. I think these emotos are really cool and i wanna get into them, but my main use case would be city transport. I am trying to figure out all the ins and out of what needs to be registered or not/what qualifies but its real hard, so any info you could give about the leaglity and workability of riding these in a bike lane friendly city regularly

[@JuicedJoyrides]

It really just depends on where you live, and how much the rules are enforced, also I think how you ride plays a big part in how the rules would be enforced. If you want to be 100% road legal you probably need to register and modify, you might want to look into my Ryvid review

[@georgee4097]

@@JuicedJoyrides thanks for the info! I’ll definitely keep that in mind and check that vid out

[@jimlahey5354]

I'm not sure about other states but in California law is pretty straightforward. Given its derrick speed of 30 mph , electric engine, just foot pegs this means it has to be registered as a moped. And you need M2 license.

[@noahm6261]

cali is the only state that enforces ebike laws and they dont really even do that. as long as you dont ride like an asshole the cops wont mess with you

[@nattsurfaren]

Brushless?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

🤷‍♂️ probably?

[@nattsurfaren]

@@JuicedJoyrides Brushless sounds smoother. This sounds like it has brushes

[@Chefchen21]

Respect, but Armstrong survived the ride to the moon

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Armstrong may have taken one giant leap for mankind, but I take one small pedal stroke for my daily commute. Plus, I bet Armstrong didn't have to deal with this headwind... and at least I don't have to worry about lunar dust getting in my gears. Armstrong had a rocket, I have a rechargeable battery, same difference. At the end of the day Armstrong didn't have to deal with the embarrassment of getting passed by a grandma in a Prius, that's true hardship. I have to confess: I had way too much fun using ChatGTP coming up with that reply 😂

[@plutonium6280]

sounds like it could handle a gearbox

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Would love to have just 2 gears on this beast, would make a huge difference

[@plutonium6280]

@@JuicedJoyrides yep, I reckon all EV's should have a low and high gear.

[@bslothed3211]

@@plutonium6280 will never happen, it will be another type of CVT that they will bring out or they will just develop around the RPM of the motor

[@Rikimkigsck]

Damn 12kW is too much :D What is the name of the app you use on your phone?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

strava, haha and yeah, 12kw really is a super high max power for this frame, what i'm learning is the combo of increased range and higher average power vs peak 12kw power is what is making this new build awesome. thanks for watching and leaving a comment!

[@Rikimkigsck]

​@@JuicedJoyrides Thank you for sharing this video it was super fun to watch. I think the application you use at 1:47 is different it doesn't look like Strava.

[@ataksnajpera]

@@Rikimkigsck EGGrider app

[@RJ-lk5pj]

Great video👊🏻 I need to throw a leg over one of these- looked fun to say the least ☝🏻

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I’d recommend it!

[@marshallmaia8130]

How many Ah?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

38ah

[@marshallmaia8130]

@@JuicedJoyrides not bad so like 60-80km range probably

[@CypherBTW]

Where or what website did you got your sur ron? I want to get one to go to work. Also, does the bike needs to be registered? I'm in VA btw.

[@JuicedJoyrides]

the video on my yt homepage shows my experience buying it at the Luna Cycle shop down the street from me in LA

[@JuicedJoyrides]

registered? its a grey area haha

[@jimlahey5354]

@@JuicedJoyrides It's not that grey actually. You're riding around a motorcycle. Class 3 ebikes are allowed to go up to 28 mph. Mopeds in California are allowed to go up to 30 mph and have 4 horsepower, 3kW. You're obviously exceeding those limits by quite a bit. I'm not trying to get on your case at all. I have the same setup. My bike is capable of going 65 mph because of the gearing and field weakening. It is registered as a moped though which is the right way to go.

[@chuck2351]

@@jimlahey5354 how do u register it? How much does it cost. The government needs to f off out of our pockets if u want the truth

[@tzef73]

Words out that the cops are chasing down the Surrons. Be careful guys.

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Where at

[@tzef73]

@@JuicedJoyrides Los Angeles. Specifically San Fernando valley, Santa Monica and Venice area.

[@ShayanKhan-e4k2w]

Bike name

[@personthatlikescheese]

A 6th grader at my school has one 💀

[@JuicedJoyrides]

😬

[@Manuel31234]

haha a colleague has the same bike and he changed some parts, now he can drive 110kp/h (~65mp/h)

[@JuicedJoyrides]

😆 I’m guessing this one will go about that fast but I’ve still not tried it yet

[@mason6300]

To be clear, this is not an electric "bike", its a motorbike for all intensive purposes. In most places you will need a full motorbike license to ride this on the road and you can't ride it in cycle lanes.

[@AZuRaFPS]

hey man awesome vid ! upgraded battery is the way to go quick question: where did you get your logo ? I like the style so if it was commissioned from an artist I'd like to order one with a similar style

[@JuicedJoyrides]

Thanks! Yes I had it commissioned. Her IG is @juliathereseart

[@boardstopia]

What is the range like? I am kinda waiting on that to order my battery so you better post it soon 😜 I need to have a range of 55miles or more.

[@luxuriousfir]

I live in the mountains of southern California I'd like to see what these things can do on inclines. Steep inclines. Talking top speeds and longevity.

[@MK-yc1fp]

Bike Lane?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

🤷‍♂️

[@donp5482]

What’s the top speed

[@JuicedJoyrides]

I made a video on it, 70 mph

[@tracezachdaniels4264]

how much is it.??.

[@JuicedJoyrides]

battery is about $2300, total cost of bike is around $8k i think

[@tracezachdaniels4264]

@@JuicedJoyrides ooo ok thanx..

[@jay.mcclou1056]

How tall are you mate?

[@JuicedJoyrides]

6’5”