I Talked To Mormons (LDS) P.2

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[@steve-oh4342]

Elizabeth, I applaud you for making the effort to try to understand other religions and belief systems and to objectively listen to others share their faith with you in an effort to understand the world and your own faith. Not many people take the time to do things like this.

[@elizabeth_margaret]

Thank you

[@ProdigalSonMatt]

I converted from a Baptist faith to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There’s a lot of misinformation about our church, even in the comments section of this video. For accurate information, check out Stick of Joseph, Ward Radio, Scripture Central, etc. I converted because the plan of salvation is complete in the LDS church, and no other church. 1. faith in Jesus Christ (John 3:16) 2. Baptism (Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16) 3. Gift of the Holy Spirit by laying on of hands (Acts 8:12-18) 4. Endure to the end (Matthew 24:13-14). Not to mention the only church that builds temples. We know the early saints went to the temple (Luke 24:53, Acts 2:46) I’m grateful that Christ restored his church and these precious truths have been pieced back together for the full plan of salvation.

[@tommacari4103]

These are all great, I agree!

[@PatriciaNewhart]

There was only ONE temple. It was in Jeruselem and marriage ceremonies were NOT performed in the temple. Only animal sacrifices. The one true temple is the believers body where the Holy Spirit indwells. Mormons are NOT Christians.

[@davidjanbaz7728]

Your counterfeit church isn't a Restoration of the church of Christ

[@tommacari4103]

You could talk to David Boice from 52 Churches in 52 Weeks. He was an Evangelical and visited many many churches for about 7 years and was just baptized into the Mormon church

[@tommacari4103]

You could also talk to / watch KZbin videos from David Alexander, he was an Evangelical for 47 years and just joined the Mormon church

[@braydencaldwell7310]

A great channel to learn about the LDS church is "saints unscripted" it goes through everything very thoroughly

[@tommacari4103]

Yep. I also really love both David Alexander and David Boice (52 Churches in 52 weeks) who were both recently baptized into the Mormon church

[@ItsSnagret]

Hi Elizabeth, I’m a faithful member of the Church and this video popped up on my feed. Thanks for uploading your thoughts! There is evidence both for and against the truthfulness of the restoration (as well as for the truthfulness of the Bible, resurrection, etc). I do think that the evidence for the restored Gospel is compelling, but what spurred my conversion was the witness I received from the Holy Ghost regarding the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon and the divinity of Jesus Christ. I truly cannot deny this experience and following it has brought so much light, truth, and joy into my life. I pray that as you diligently seek Jesus and the Truth that you can come to a greater understanding and more joy in your life.

[@tommacari4103]

In terms of evidences against the church, as technology has improved over the decades with Lidar, carbon-dating, etc the evidences for the Book of Mormon have only increased

[@Lovecatholicfaith]

I don’t think she’s going to change Jesus status. Jesus is God for all Cristian’s , just for you LDS and seventh day adventist and JW Jesus are not God.

[@ItsSnagret]

@@Lovecatholicfaith that’s quite an incorrect take. How is Jesus from an LDS worldview not for all people?

[@k98killer]

​​@@tommacari4103what evidence is there for the Book of Mormon? My understanding is that genetic studies have conclusively ruled out the notion that ancient Hebrews were the ancestors of American Indians, and the church has yet to find a single artifact anywhere in the Americas that supports any historical claims made in the book.

[@frenchfriedfish1990]

​@@k98killerif my knowledge is correct only about 3% of archaeological sites have been uncovered in the Americas, saying there is no evidence of the events in The Book of Mormon happening is like seeing a cup of water from a lake and claiming there are no fish. (Pre Columbus horses and barley were also discovered in America)

[@mjordan79705]

I recommend that you read something called the CES letter. It discusses important issues that are actually reinforced in the gospel topics essays available on the LDS church website

[@danielcompton3492]

If you’re going to delve into church history and use KZbin as your main source, I would highly recommend the channel “Mormonism with the Murph”. Stephen Murphy is one of the most balanced and fair KZbinrs that I have found on this topic. Also, Don Bradley and Brian C. Hales are excellent scholars in this area. Good luck!

[@ItsSnagret]

The “Faith and Beliefs” videos by Saints Unscripted are also excellent. Other videos by Thoughtful Faith and Ward Radio are also helpful.

[@SavannahRoos-it4ee]

Please continue in your journey. I am hoping to find faith and beliefs to base really big life decisions on and you doing this research is helping me a lot.

[@elinglesdiario7805]

Read and study the Book of Mormon it is such an amazing book. I love it and it has helped me know Jesus Christ more as my Savior than any other source. By their fruits ye shall know them. The Book of Mormon is a fruit of the prophet Joseph Smith. I wish you all the best on your spiritual journey

[@elizabeth_margaret]

It is interesting to read

[@KaiserSoze-us9ji]

​@@elizabeth_margaret...Once you get to Second Nephi and Mosiah ..you shall gain a Testimony .. Also, have you seen David Boice of 52 Churches in 52 Weeks !?

[@parker_chess]

Joseph Smith made the thing up! He plagiarized the Bible on many occasions and used the same King James style English to give the Book of Mormon more legitimacy. I've read the entire BoM cover to cover many many times there is nothing special about the BoM that can't be found in the Bible. It makes claims of historical civilizations and battles which have never been proven. It says the Lamanites were cursed with a skin of blackness then later on when they become they righteous their skin turns white and becomes 'white and delightsome'. The BoM is said to be written in Reformed Egyptian which is a language that does not exist. Joseph Smith had an affair with Fanny Alger (his adopted daughter). Emma came home and found them doing the deed in the barn! He then claimed it was a revelation from God. Then 'rumors' came out about Joseph's affair and Oliver Cowdary publicly denounced Joseph's relationship with the girl and subsequently he was ex-communicated from the Church. There's even more details but my man you need to read into the history it gets worse and worse.

[@legomaster9190]

Also, as I'm sure the missionaries have invited you to do, Elizabeth, pray about it. Pray that God would show and tell you what's the truth is. He will do it. You have a good base, knowing about spiritual matters. Wherever your path will take you on this investigation, it's definitely good to have an open mind and ask questions. So glad you are taking the time to dive into this and just learn!

[@MutantBuzzard]

Jeremiah 1:5 New International Version 5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew[a] you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

[@elizabeth_margaret]

Yes, that is an interesting point for if God knew us before conception. I am unsure what the Protestant faith stance on this. TBH

[@k98killer]

Dr. Dan McClellan, a Biblical scholar and active member of the LDS Church, has explained this passage as setting out an exception to emphasize the specialness of the prophetic calling and subsequent oracular relationship with the deity. It is an aberration in its historic ontological and theological context.

[@smileygoldfish]

As an LDS member, I’m grateful that you took the effort to question accusations about our church before immediately believing them because we’re mormons 😂

[@newlightknowledge9869]

55 years ago my dad was the geologist for the Hopi indians in Arizona. I stayed overnight in a hogan as guest of Chief White Bear. I was told of the White bearded god that stood on top of SHIP ROCK. He taught the indians many wonderful things.

[@newlightknowledge9869]

60 years ago, I was a missionary in Argentina and we baptized a guide that took us to a museum high in the Andes Mountains. He showed us 2 statues of Jesus Christ taken out of Inca tombs before the Spanish ever arrived in So. America. He always wondered why Jesus was here before the Spanish arrived. One statue had an Egyptian hat.

[@sarahpinho1114]

Deconstructing former member here. It's great to learn about others' beliefs and culture/history. Unfortunately many of us have left due to harm and would caution anyone formally investigating, preparing for baptism to talk to people who can let you know what it's like to be involved for them, also to get informed consent before making any lasting committements.

[@tommacari4103]

I've been a member for over 30 years now. I can't tell you what my life would be like without the gospel. I've certainly never experienced "harm". I'm terribly sorry if you did

[@johngaudy]

I mean... not to be insulting but you make it sound like a complex lawyers contract that you can't get out of after someone has been duped signing into. I don't understand where that would even come from. Most things people care about (relating to lifestyle changes) are pretty clearly outlined prior to baptism--essentially giving up smoking, drugs, and alcohol, and paying tithing. From there, even if one fell back into old lifestyles, it's not like they goto Mormon prison or pay some fine or something, or become enslaved into some deviant covert practices. If one commits to following the gospel "the LDS way" and then falls back into old habits, what is the harm done? If ultimately you decide its not for you, I can only imagine the worst that happens is you get annoying phone calls and door knocks from time to time and cookies left on your doorstep. Sounds so harmful! :D. If you have been wronged beyond that, I do apologize in sincerity, but it's also important to know the LDS church, as all other churches, are made up of imperfect sinners all trying to figure things out as well.

[@BrianTerrill]

A lot of the early members of the church were cambelite Baptist. Parley P. Pratt was a Baptist preacher when he ran into someone who had a copy of the Book of Mormon. After he read it, he went to Palmyra New York and met Hryum Smith, Joseph Smith's older broylther. Parley was baptized and became an apostle in the church.

[@elizabeth_margaret]

Yes I actually just learned this from a Independent Christian church pastor. These churches came from I believe as you said Campbellite Baptist (though I could be wrong).

[@alexfriedman2152]

This might be irrelivent, but I felt the holy spirit watching this video. I'm an Empath. God gave me certain spiritual gifts that I was born with. I can feel what others feel. You're blessed. I wish I was that blessed.

[@geoffreypalmer2661]

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[@alexfriedman2152]

@@geoffreypalmer2661 ? You never had a supernatural experience with God or with demons? This is real if you didn't know.... God is real.

[@geoffreypalmer2661]

@@alexfriedman2152 i believe god is real but i dont have supernaural eperiences with demons because i dont blame them them and attribute everything the goes bad in my life to demons thats a pentacostal thing they make up demons for everything because they live in a fantasy world blah blah a jezebel demon a demon of this and a demon of that these are sick people being a christian also means being realistic and rational we dont live in the middle ages mark driscol is spreading fear and noncense by calling everything evil he is a very unwell person

[@ErC-oj6rc]

Also I did find Wally Browns Video. "The True Native American (Navajo) History of the Southwest." to be rather compelling especially when he talks about The Holy People in this Coyote Ceremony Video, and how they would describe "The Speaker of Peace" wearing a Red Garment, worn over that is a White Robe, 12 Feathers on His head representing the 12 Men that he called to serve The Holy People, about 1900 years ago as the story goes they say they were called from the East to Settle in the Southwest, In one of his other Videos he talked about how they had been called from the East by The Holy People, and crossed Wide Rivers fleeing from a Contentious civilization. All I know is thats what he said. And having read the section on their website titled. "Our Story." its fair to say that he is very adamant that these are the things that were taught too Him as a Boy, and were Taught Anciently. As an Evangelical who now finds myself in the condition of being an Active Member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints I just appreciate the Man's Wisdom, and Insights as a Human being. I don't know if he is a Latterday Saint, but I recently heard a Chief from the Ashinabe who is a Latterday Saint say that the Teachings that he received in the various Native American Lodges carry with it a similar Tradition, and Practice to what the Latterday Saint Endowment is trying to Teach us. If so I think thats pretty Awesome. Honestly it just gets more curious with time....The Ethiopean Orthodox, the Mandaean Apostasy. In the Larger Picture what comes to mind is this... Doctrine, and Covenants 38. "24 And let every man esteem his brother as himself, and practice virtue and holiness before me. 25 And again I say unto you, let every man esteem his brother as himself. 26 For what man among you having twelve sons, and is no respecter of them, and they serve him obediently, and he saith unto the one: Be thou clothed in robes and sit thou here; and to the other: Be thou clothed in rags and sit thou there-and looketh upon his sons and saith I am just? 27 Behold, this I have given unto you as a parable, and it is even as I am. I say unto you, be one; and if ye are not one ye are not mine. 28 And again, I say unto you that the enemy in the secret chambers seeketh your lives. 29 Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land." I Hope you have a Great Week Sister. Regardless of what Church you decide to be apart of. 👋

[@danjohnson8556]

Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. Q: How did God know Jeremiah before he was in his mother’s womb? A: The pre-existence

[@MutantBuzzard]

by their fruits you will know them

[@tommacari4103]

This is critical. As I've read and studied the Book of Mormon, I've felt and seen the fruits of the spirit (as described in Galacians 5:22) in my life. This is a major factor in my testimony that it is from God

[@geoffreypalmer2661]

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[@ErC-oj6rc]

I was listening to a portion of your Video, Feminism in the Bible. I think you would very much enjoy listening to General Conference. I was just seeing if I could think of a Specific Talk you might enjoy when I realized something...The Tabernacle Choir consists of a Paradigm of Men, and Women essentially in equal Proportions. Singing together in Harmony.

[@elizabeth_margaret]

That would be interesting

[@ErC-oj6rc]

@@elizabeth_margaret Absolutely there is Hundreds of Hours of Videos to watch. The Official Channel is now called General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ I think it used to just be called General Conference. There is Two Sessions a Year in April, and October.

[@ErC-oj6rc]

I was an Evangelical for 36 years, Trust me I never had any Plans to become a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints. I Hear Yah Sister.

[@tommacari4103]

In terms of archeological evidence, there are Native American civilizations called the Hopewell mound builders, as well as the Adina (spelling?) whose bones, armor, weapons, and location happen to match up with the ancient Americans in the Book of Mormon. Those who join the church do so because they feel the holy spirit, but it does help to know that there are native American tribes whose ancestors line up, even with Hebrew DNA Markers

[@Ralph419]

See the 2010 statement by professors Atalay, Barnhart, Bolnick, Feder, Kehoe and Lepper about "The Lost Civilizations of North America DVD".

[@tommacari4103]

​@Ralph419 something from 14 years ago? There have been a ton of advances since then

[@Ralph419]

@@tommacari4103 Give a source, since then, from professors of archaeology/anthropology that would make their statement obsolete.

[@MutantBuzzard]

when do you think Lucifer and his followers were cast out of God's presence? before or after the creation?

[@elizabeth_margaret]

That is an interesting question. Some say sometimes after creation but before the fall. Since God created the Heavens and the Earth (which is creation) Genesis 1. However he had to fall before the the fall because He deceived Eve in Genesis 3.

[@KaiserSoze-us9ji]

​@@elizabeth_margaret Precisely ! Proof of the Pre-Existence

[@noahriding5780]

If you want to talk evidence we can talk evidence all day there's mountains of it. You can search it under Wayne May videos. But that's not really the point, the point is... you'd still have to pray about it and ask God if that's where you are supposed to be. And the minute we started talking about evidence someone else will just jump in and say its not evidence. And then you'd be right back where you were again, having to pray about it still. And another problem is to recognize evidence you'd have to know enough about a subject matter to tell what's evidence and matches it, and what doesn't. So someone who hasn't studied something would still have to go right back to the original question of praying about something.

[@Ralph419]

See Civilizations Lost and Found: Fabricating History Part Two: False Messages in Stone by professors Lepper, Feder, Barnhart and Bolnick. Wayne May uses artifacts that are proven to be hoaxes.

[@gwvest]

to understand more about the LDS faith you will need to pray about those things you heard and ask God with pure intent if those things you are reading and hearing are true. If your feel peace and/or a burning inside of you this the Holy Ghost speaking to you the truth of what you are looking for.

[@PatriciaNewhart]

That burning feeling could be the pizza you had for lunch..indigestion. God gave us a rational mind, a mind to THINK and investigate. Feelings are fleetingband can be deceptive. So can th heart. If Mormonism was true than mormonsbwould not be afraid to 8nvestigate or question. As a Christian my faith only grows stronger by asking questions. Christianity can withstand any questions asked. Mormonism can't.

[@GOODTAGO]

Check out the place named Nahom, it's in the Book of Mormon.

[@elizabeth_margaret]

May I ask why

[@GOODTAGO]

@@elizabeth_margaret It may have been found, In Saudi Arabia. Eye-opening.

[@Ralph419]

@@elizabeth_margaret The location was identified on both Niebuhr's and D'Anville's maps, copies of both maps were in the United States before the Book of Mormon was published.

[@KaiserSoze-us9ji]

Fayetteville Illinois the ground was carved into Hebrew Lamps in the ground. Pre Columbian Barley and horses found. Cement was found... Some Hebrew words and symbols found in Native American Tribes

[@frenchfriedfish1990]

One of the reasons latter-day Saints are not super pushy is because they believe that non lds Christians are still saved by the atonement.

[@elizabeth_margaret]

Really? I did not know this and could not get a good answer concerning this from them.

[@frenchfriedfish1990]

@@elizabeth_margaret in the spirit world Christ will be teaching all those who did not receive the full gospel, and if they accept the words of Christ they will be saved.

[@mikeoniones667]

Yet the temple lot is the earliest church of christ, but Trinity believers' book of Abraham and Temple garbage was removed.

[@PascalDupont561]

I would suggest reading the Book of Mormon and ask god himself if it is true. Go to the source He is your heavenly Dad.

[@ningenJMK]

Lol

[@davidjanbaz7728]

No, God isn't your literal father!!!

[@williamradtke6746]

Yes he is

[@lukegraven7839]

The BoM is a racist 19th-century comic book. nothing more. the 'veil of forgetfulness' lol so fakey.

[@jameseldridge4185]

He will tell you to read the Bible

[@richlopez5896]

I read the Book of Mormon in 2002. It is a very strange religion that uses Christian terminology, but has very different beliefs. The B of M is full of errors and no archaeological evidence supports their stories. Most Bibles contain maps illustrating where important biblical events took place. You can visit the ruins or cities described in the Bible(Jerusalem, Antioch, Bethlehem, Damascus, Babylon, Ephesus, Thessaloniki, etc...). If you get atheist, Christian, and Jewish scholars together, they can agree on where the events allegedly took place and confirm the existence of cities and sites in those places, even if an atheist or a Jew denies certain miracles or historical events took place there. Nothing comparable can be said about the Book of Mormon. Some Mormons say the events of the book take place across North and South America. Others say it took place in Central America, in Panama or Mexico. And still other say the events of the book took place in the Heartland of America. That’s why some Mormons are conducting expeditions in Southeast Iowa to uncover the ancient city of Zaramehla that purportedly had 100,000 people living in it in the fourth century, which would have made it one of the largest cities in ancient North America. But so far, the expeditions haven’t found a single thing. In fact, according to the National Geographic Society, “Archaeologists and other scholars have long probed the hemisphere’s past, and the society does not know of anything found so far that has substantiated the Book of Mormon.” To put this into perspective, it would be very difficult to defend the Bible if some Christians said the city of Jerusalem was in Israel, others said it was in southern France, and still others said it was in India. There is absolutely no archaeological evidence to directly support the Book of Mormon or the Nephites and Lamanites, who were supposed to have numbered in the millions. We read about two major war battles that took place at the Hill Cumorah (Ramah to the Jaredites) with deaths numbering in the tens of thousands - the last battle between Lamanites and Nephites around 400 AD claimed at least 230,000 deaths on the Nephite side alone. No bones, hair, chariots, swords, armor, or any other evidence of a battle whatsoever has been found at this site. John E. Clark, director of BYU’s archaeological organization, wrote in the Journal of Book of Mormon Studies: "In accord with these general observations about New York and Pennsylvania, we come to our principal object - the Hill Cumorah. Archaeologically speaking, it is a clean hill. No artifacts, no walls, no trenches, no arrowheads. The area immediately surrounding the hill is similarly clean. Pre-Columbian people did not settle or build here. This is not the place of Mormon’s last stand. We must look elsewhere for that hill." Compare this with the archaeological evidence of other hillside battle sites. Caerau Hillfort, in the Wales capital of Cardiff, was found to have abundant archaeological evidence of inhabitants and weapons of war dating as far back as 3600 BC in the form of stone arrowheads, tools, and pottery. Compare the absent evidence of Book of Mormon civilizations to the archaeological remains of other past civilizations such as the Roman occupation of Britain and other countries. There are abundant evidences of their presence during the first 400 years AD such as villas, mosaic floors, public baths, armor, weapons, writings, art, pottery, and so on. Even the major road systems used today in some of these occupied countries were built by the Romans. Additionally, there is ample evidence of the Mayan and Aztec civilizations as well as a civilization in current day Texas that dates back at least 15,0000 years. Another recent discovery has been made of a 14,000-year-old village in Canada. Latter-day Saint Thomas Stuart Ferguson was the founder of BYU’s archaeology division (New World Archaeological Foundation). NWAF was financed by the LDS Church. NWAF and Ferguson were tasked by BYU and the Church in the 1950s and 1960s to find archaeological evidence to support the Book of Mormon. After 17 years of diligent effort, this is what Ferguson wrote in a letter about trying to dig up evidence for the Book of Mormon: "...you can’t set Book of Mormon geography down anywhere - because it is fictional and will never meet the requirements of the dirt-archaeology. I should say - what is in the ground will never conform to what is in the book." DNA analysis has concluded that Native American Indians do not originate from the Middle East or from Israelites but rather from Asia. Why did the Church change the following section of the introduction page in the 2006 edition Book of Mormon, shortly after the DNA results were released? "...the Lamanites, and they are the principal ancestors of the American Indians." to "...the Lamanites, and they are among the ancestors of the American Indians." A Few False Prophecies of Joseph Smith, Founder of the Mormons: *In 1835 Joseph Smith prophesied the Lord’s return within 56 years (History of the Church, Vol. 2, pg. 182). By 1891 this was proven to be a false prophecy. *In 1843 Joseph Smith prophesied that the United States government would be overthrown and wasted within a few years if they refused to redress the wrongs committed against the Mormons in Missouri (History of the Church, Vol. 5, pg. 394). The United States government has never formally redressed any wrongs committed against the Mormons in Missouri and the government still stands nearly 170 years later. *In 1832 Joseph Smith prophesied that the present generation of Mormons would not pass away before the temple of the New Jerusalem would be built in Zion, Missouri (Doctrine & Covenants Section 84). The Mormons were forced to flee Missouri and no temple was constructed there in Joseph Smith’s lifetime or within the generation that witnessed this prophecy. *In 1832 Joseph Smith prophesied that the United States civil war would eventually engulf all nations (Doctrine & Covenants Section 87). This prophecy did not come close to being fulfilled. Joseph Smith made many other false prophecies in his lifetime. By the standards of God’s word, he must be labeled a false prophet (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)

[@shireecox122]

What did you learn?

[@tommacari4103]

Sorry for all the comments haha - the term "Mormons" is just a nickname, I prefer the Church of Jesus Christ, or the Restored Church of Jesus Christ (since it's his church, not Mormon's church. Mormon was just one of several ancient American prophets))

[@rupert1358]

Just read the book and pray about it

[@kuemua]

If you want to know a little more you should watch *Test of a prophet Bible vs joseph smith " "Bible vs book of mormon*

[@elizabeth_margaret]

Thank you

[@KaiserSoze-us9ji]

These are all Hit Pieces with Confirmation Bias. The ultimate test ! Read the Book of Mormon. Pray about it's origins. Attend an LDS Chapel. Take the Sacrament. The Holy Spirit shall lay a witness. Also Watch the Prophet of the Restoration

[@leeuniverse]

@@elizabeth_margaret .... Go to "FAIR LDS" and see what the LDS response to those Videos are, as well as ALL other challenges and claims against us. Anti-Mormons are liars. Exactly like how Leftists lie about the Right, and then claim they are "good" and "truth tellers" and that the Right aren't. Good people may disagree on beliefs, that's okay, but only those who serve the Evil one are people who "Bear False Witness" of their fellow men. You will also see to whatever issue you look into, how the Bible isn't actually how you've been taught. We show it clearly with the Book itself, and history.

[@tommacari4103]

Also be weary of youtube channels that are very anti-mormon, they get a lot of clicks and become popular bashing the church with half-truths / incomplete context

[@stickyplays8809]

Ask them about the deity and divinity of christ. Did he always have his divinity and how did he become a God?

[@Pound_Shift]

When Moses was on mount Saini receiving the 10 commandments Moses wanted to see God face to face Gods response was If you see my face my goodness would kill you (paraphrasing) so God put Moses in a cleft and covered him with his hand as he passed by ,Joseph Smith supposedly saw God in the woods face to face in New York and survived ? This should send up red flags ,Read Galatians and see what it says about false prophets ,I hope this helps you in your journey 🙏

[@IamTheJesus]

I love learning about religions

[@elizabeth_margaret]

Me too

[@MutantBuzzard]

you might like '52 churches in 51 weeks' parts 1 & 2

[@tommacari4103]

​@@MutantBuzzardyes I agree! David Boice spent 7-8 years learning about and visiting 100's of churches, and just got baptized into the Mormon church only a month ago

[@truthbebold4009]

​@@elizabeth_margaretI have a question for you. How do you plan on having a balanced view of Mormonism? LDS beliefs can be presented in such a way to make it seem reasonable. However, not many movements or organizations can compare with the amount of controversy that has plagued the LDS Church. One of the most shocking exposés is the short and succinct videos put out by Latter Day Smarts. God bless you, sister. I have been blessed with a ton of insight into LDS beliefs and it's no bueno. They believe (as taught in the BOM) that the fall was a good thing 😕 Please find someone who you can trust to scrutinize what they are telling you.

[@newlightknowledge9869]

I also show how to become a god, by the Bible.

[@newlightknowledge9869]

You appear to have Asian heritage. The gathering of Israel is happening right now. 700 B.C. there were 1,700 children of Israel families that settled in Japan known as the Hata people. There are 500 words that are the same for Jews and Japanese. 4,500 years ago the Chinese worshiped the god Shandi, whose creation story is identical to the one in Genesis. In the ancient Chinese writing, it shows they knew all about the Garden of Eden, Caine and Abel, Tower of Babel, and the flood. At exactly that same time Jesus was crucified, there was an eclipse of the Sun and the Moon and the emperor GuanWu said that the Man from Heaven has died and all of the sins of all mankind are upon one man. If Jesus sounds familiar to you, you have the blood of Israel in your veins.

[@Lovecatholicfaith]

I was raised LDS I was so in love for Jesus but I didn’t know that Jesus is God! All my life I teaching that Jesus was my old brother and Satan as well! And during the pandemic time I just started to study out side of the Mormon doctrine and my doubts started to grow up! They claim they are the true church, they claim that the church was corrupt by man ! All of Christian’s church! But as far I was studying I found out that Jesus said : “I’m going to be with you until the end of the world Matthew 28:20” . I just started to think rationally: Or Jesus was lied or LDS doctrine does. And I just started my path to get out of the Mormon church. It was so painful 😢 but as soon I found out Jesus is my God I found happiness out of Mormon doctrine. I remember that for them the sacrament of the body of Christ is just a memory 😢it’s completely disgusting! Because Jesus said its Him ! 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 It’s really is the body and the blood of Jesus til he comes back again! Unfortunately people doesn’t take time to study the first Christian’s life, if they do like I did they will understand the meaning of the last supper. Gets way from LDS doctrine it’s not came from God.

[@elizabeth_margaret]

So if I understand you are an "ex-mormon"

[@dylanwilliams2202]

Matthew 28:20 is Jesus talking directly to the Apostles and is meant for them only. Neither Jesus nor we lie, you just misunderstand. _"Unfortunately people doesn’t take time to study the first Christian’s life"_ Oh, as a faithful member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints I love reading the Early Church Fathers writings because they are the biggest proof that Joseph did restore Christianity to what was originally taught. Would you like examples? _" I remember that for them the sacrament of the body of Christ is just a memory"_ I am not sure exactly what this means, but what we teach is exactly what the early Christians taught.

[@k98killer]

I would recommend listening also to ex-Mormons to hear why they left the LDS Church to get a more complete perspective on the topic.

[@geoffreypalmer2661]

exmormons are crybabies they just get on the internet and lie and make up stories

[@elizabeth_margaret]

Thank you. I have considered this.

[@geoffreypalmer2661]

waaaaa i left the mormon church boo hoo i want attention

[@k98killer]

@@geoffreypalmer2661 I guess you have never experienced being estranged from your family and friends over a religious disagreement, else you would not be quite so flippant and obnoxious.

[@geoffreypalmer2661]

@@k98killer the church is not responible for these problems its the people in the church and their familes

[@newlightknowledge9869]

Click the Big N to watch ; Biblical Proof: YOU CAN BECOME A GOD!!!

[@MutantBuzzard]

Joseph Smith had 14 wives, and the youngest was 14 years old, but he only had children with his 1st wife Emma.

[@elizabeth_margaret]

They did speak about the difference between spiritual marriage and physical marriage.

[@ItsSnagret]

@@elizabeth_margaret Joseph Smith wanted to spiritually seal families together horizontally, hence he was sealed to many people, including a young woman. However, she didn’t live as his “wife”, nor was their “marriage” consummated. It was more a gesture of connecting their two families together into eternity.

[@parker_chess]

I'm leaving the LDS. And Polygamy is a topic that most shy away from. The church abandoned the practice due to pressure from the U.S. federal government. And of course in early Mormonism there were teenage marriages to older men that were consummated. Brigham Young, Lorenzo Snow, Wilford Woodruff, and John Taylor all had teen brides. Brigham Young even said that a man needed 3 wives for the highest degree of glory in the Celestial Kingdom. And for that reason you have many splinter groups of Fundamentalist Mormons who still practice polygamy. The Book of Mormon describes huge cities and many battles which there is no archeological evidence for. Also, it was said to be written in Reformed Egyptian which is a language scholars say doesn't exist and we haven't found one trace of it in the entire world let alone ancient America.

[@steve-oh4342]

there is plenty of evidence that the stuff Joseph Smith wrote was complete fiction. If you delve into the book of Abraham for example, Smith claimed to have translated from ancient Egyptian texts, it clearly shows that he did not understand the hieroglyphs referenced, he was just merely looking at the pictures and drawing his own conclusions, making it all up. According to Smith, the book of Abraham is supposed to be Abraham's own personal account written in his own hand. In actuality it is ancient Egyptian funerary text from the book of the dead.

[@laurievoss285]

Before you leave... please ponder the reasons that relics and ruins of the ancient cities and civilizations have not been found is because modern towns, villages, cities, and metropolises have been built over the ancient historic civilizations

[@parker_chess]

@@laurievoss285 I have thought about this. And no doubt that we have built over much of what would have been ancient civilizations. The problem is the battles described in the BOM are too grandiose, there would definitely be remnants found. Not only that but not one trace of Reformed Egyptian has ever been discovered. I'm in the process of joining the Orthodox Church. Started taking classes weekly and attending the divine liturgies. It's truly the Church that Christ founded.

[@crazyaboutcards]

A lot of what you mentioned here is inaccurate. As time goes on, more and more evidence is being uncovered. People expect everything to be revealed to them by a certain deadline. If we're hand feed every single evidence, we wouldn't need to have faith and rely on the Holy Ghost for truth.

[@johngaudy]

​@@crazyaboutcardsIt's like asking for physical proof of miracles performed by Jesus. Those kinds of endeavors for scientific proof will lead anyone away from Christianity or religion all together if that's your only measuring stick.

[@elizabethrehm470]

I agree with another comment made. Watch Test of a Prophet: The Bible vs. Joseph Smith and The Bible vs. the Book of Mormon by Expedition Bible. I would also add Mormon Stories, Mormonish, and Mormonism LIVE. The last 3 will give you a very good idea what Mormonism is about. After a few of those, you'll know more than the missionaries. Polygamy is still a doctrine in the mainstream Mormon church. The doctrine also includes concubines. Just read Doctrine and Covenants 132 (section 132). The missionaries carry that around with them.

[@ItsSnagret]

These are awful sources that are filled with misinformation and hatred toward the Church. I would not take them seriously if you’re trying to honestly search for truth.

[@tommacari4103]

These are all anti-mormon websites that are built on half-truths. "Mormon Stories" makes TONS OF MONEY bashing the church. They are the epitome of wolves in sheep's clothing

[@elizabeth_margaret]

Oh thank you for the advice

[@vaxx5113]

I suggest you learn the history of the Christian faith and the one true holy Catholic and apostolic church, then learn about the breakoffs that came after before you learn about this. It would be confusing to me especially not regarding Mormonism as Christians agree that mormonism isn’t Christian and is highly heretical.

[@johngaudy]

😂 since when does defining Christianity come down to whether a committee of flawed humans deems so? I dont remember the Old Testament or New Testament using committees to define who is part of the club. I suppose Pharisees did that...