I Test A $398 Walmart eBike VS Mountain Bike Trails

[@camerabehindhandlebars]

"Time to Sam Pilgrim this seat problem" I'm dying

[@Flamin111]

made me laugh lol

[@DeadsetYT]

There are some sounds you don't want your bike to make and thing made all of them. 😂😂

[@330_Crew]

The only logical next move is to put on a brand new Fox 40 double crown and proclaim the Hyper-E to be “the dream”

[@mastertapstermikemacdonald8086]

me and two of my friends have this bike for over a year and a half now never had a problem it works excellent ☺️

[@user-ul5wq3kv4p]

Still using the bike ? Luckily you guys bought it back then. Now the price is getting ridiculous

[@talesfromthecrypto9642]

He'd rather sell you his $5k sponsored bikes

[@asnpawcio]

i just wanna make sure i fully understand this bike so if you out of the battery does it act like regular bike? can i just paddling normal way or is to hard? does is safe on the street? i need to get to work i lose my car and everything is to expensive....

[@jawad1403]

@@asnpawcio Yes, you can paddle if the battery dies

[@xuelor3614]

Using the cheapest electric mountain bike on an advance trail is not a fair evaluation, and it is obvious that the ebike wouldn't perform well. Try testing on gravel roads or flatter sections would have been a better evaluation of the bike's performance.

[@kidglockboi3555]

It says it’s a mountain bike and second that trail isn’t that hard

[@78sound]

pedal it

[@TEKDAD]

It’s a MTB channel …

[@aperocknroll88]

@@kidglockboi3555 and that's where reading the othet specs and manufacturer's warnings are important.

[@jeffmcnctv]

Exactly. People aren’t buying this bike to go on mountain trails. They’re buying it to ride around on the road

[@PaulThePunter]

The ball ride 😂 oh man,

[@SemiSendy]

His bits are fortunate to have been riding the new 'break-away' saddle tech we're just starting to see in 2021.

[@skyshow5192]

hahaha

[@shredditsbiking]

He needs to make a second episode where he upgrades it. Hahaha

[@ThunderbolttheFox]

I bought a $200 regular MTB from walmart (Genesis Incline). It's at least a full suspension bike but I don't think I'd trust it for anything more than smooth mountain trails. Am going to convert it to a 1000w e-bike over this weekend so that it has the climbing power to get me around my hilly town fast and easily

[@Jetsonn]

Nice that sounds like an awesome idea. Hope the conversion went well, did you go with a hub kit or a mid drive kit like a bafang BBSHD?

[@paulmryglod4802]

How'd it turn out?

[@Bacon676]

"time to Sam pilgrim this", oh I'm done, lol

[@DeadsetYT]

I love that Sam Pilgriming things is a thing 😂.

[@louisminford2089]

E-bikes are amazing, can’t hate until you’ve tried one !

[@eddie_mercado]

I will agree that this bike is woefully inadequate for mountain biking, but as stated earlier in the video it makes a great entry level e-bike for commuting and city biking. My partner and I both love this bike for that purpose and if that is what you want it for, then the price is unbeatable.

[@aidansarhosh9146]

Does this bike have a throttle that you can use with your right hand?

[@seansnyder2855]

"Totally against e-bikes" Thats a real mature opinion.

[@drister007]

You are being sarcartic, right?

[@jaredgulaga8367]

“Totally against E bikes”. Dude, you just started a war 😂

[@James-dn1hu]

I’m an analog rider myself but I can see why so many people get ebikes. Surely if an ebike can give someone the motivation to ride that they may not have done before it’s that a good thing. If I had the funds I would definitely be riding an ebike. A proper emtb I mean.

[@jaredgulaga8367]

@@James-dn1hu I too ride a self propelled bike, but I have ridden E bikes and totally endorse the premise of getting in way more laps. On an E bike I can get in 5 rather than two, and whilst the climb isn’t nearly as difficult, descending more than twice as many times makes up for the exercise lost during the ascent.

[@mtbdizz]

Seriously! Just lost a little respect for the man. People need to get over themselves. *Disclaimer I do not own an ebike.... Yet....

[@dougest6578]

John Riggs

[@kenbad8271]

That's too bad you don't like them I need an electric bike because I got nerve damage in my legs and I can't pedal hard or fast anymore so the e-bike is the only bike I can use

[@one_mtb]

Everything about it just SOUNDS cheap! 😆 Couldn’t stop laughing when you broke the seat 😂

[@one_mtb]

Wait that rhymes...

[@RiggsRides]

lol

[@alfiejw5534]

@OneMTB follow u on Instagram lol glad to see u here (• ◡•)

[@halanderson2038]

😂 I have this hyper bike. I changed the seat out before I even rode it for the first time. It’s great for light off-roading and commuting. Do not take it on advanced mountain trails.😀 It’s holding up pretty well. If you don’t have a lot of money to spend I think it’s worth the money. I am satisfied for the money I spent. BTW I own 8 Ebikes ranging from this Hyper Ebike to higher end $1500 Ebikes. I’ve also built 2 Ebikes from scratch so I know more about Ebikes than most people.

[@xxk4rilsxx]

What’s some better ones to look at for under 1,000$ ? Just looking for something to roam nature trails with no rough terrain 10-15 miles max.

[@GARBO96]

@@xxk4rilsxx not worth it I took it on basically gravel trails and in 9 rides the motor failed no drops no dips just dirt

[@FtanmoOfEtheirys]

@@xxk4rilsxx you're better off building your own for that price :)

[@thetoycollector4499]

How can I turn my schwinn 2.6 fs into a e-bike sir

[@joesamtos238]

You didn't happen to install a hand throttle on it have you on the hyper E-Ride?

[@troubleshootdis5930]

Great review, iI have one myself and have been using it on flat road for commuting to work. It's great for just that but I turned it into a project bike and upgraded the forks to a rock shox recon, swapped out the front wheel to a better hub that has rotor mounts, upgraded to mechanical disc brakes front and rear(to keep the motor cutoff switch), tires to 26x2.5 nobbies, 720mm handlebar, shimano trigger shifter, and race face lock on grips...and in all honesty it's a completely different animal now. It can handle most local trails (and non crazy jumps) no problem and still have the help of the pedal assist. i would say overall it is a good capable ebike once you eliminate all its cheapo components and still be under what the big brands ask for... that is if you are a recreational rider.

[@vibelife5133]

Cool!

[@DanielOmarUrieta]

What is that shadow at the right 11:05

[@SemiSendy]

That first downhill chute around 8:35 had me truly concerned about the future of your 2021 riding season. Somehow you made it through surprisingly smooth!

[@4saken404]

I can't believe he did that sh*t twice. That stump clearly had his name on it. It was waiting there like some kind of PREDATOR.

[@drivventodrumm1]

That drop on that p.o.s? Savage

[@Mike-hr6jz]

For those of us over 16 this is a viable solution when you can’t quite make it home on pedal power alone thanks for the video.

[@Basement_CNC]

guys be smart , if you ever see a e-bike without disc-brakes you know something's fishy🤔🤦‍♂️like big fish🐳

[@SimonBauer7]

whithout HYDRAULIC brakes rim brakes are fine on a non emtb if they are HYDRAULIC

[@HoloScope]

What if I electrified my rim brake bike 🤔

[@lisabrown7762]

I got one off Facebook marketplace for 275 and replaced the fork, stem, hydraulic brakes, handlebars, cranks, front wheel with a 27.5 + and Maxxis tires now its amazing for the money. It just needs some help if you already have some parts in your parts bin but the frame is great. I already had all of the parts except the front wheel and fork so it was worth it for me. Later I'm installing an ebike motor kit.

[@ericl6460]

Yeah it's a great platform to upgrade. An ebike kit is almost the same price somehow, and the hyper has nice frame integration for the battery

[@Junnys_Bicycle_Hoard]

I picked one of these up and use my parts bin to make it a decent ride. Parts Used 1.Rigid Alloy Disc Fork 27.5 2.27.5 Wheel with disc hub 3. Generic mechanical disc brake calipers front and rear. 4. 780mm bars 5. 27.2 alloy seat post 6. Old Specialized saddle 7. Kenda tires front 27.5 and rear 26 Only part I purchased for this upgrade was a JG bike crank and BB with chainring $39.99 on Amazon (Steal of a deal) and cheap bar grips. She’s a decent E-Bike ride now for pavement and gravel use only.

[@scootergeorge9576]

Nice but the average Joe has no "parts bin" to pick from. What is the retail price of these parts?

[@Junnys_Bicycle_Hoard]

@@scootergeorge9576 I’m not sure what these used parts are worth. The front wheel, brake calipers and seat post where off a mongoose ledge x1.

[@ericl6460]

@@scootergeorge9576 should you buy this as your first bike: probably not Should you buy it to upgrade: yep

[@xdirt.surferx]

I upgraded the seat, forks, and handlebars on mine! I have no issues with it except the chain falling off. I’m going to get a chain guide. I have taken this bike off jumps. It’s better than he’s letting on. It’s a good bike to build off of for the money. I’m not paying thousands for a bicycle.

[@wrightvcx2249]

2:45 What is your height? Considering the bike has 26 inches wheels.

[@The_RC_Dude]

When the seat just bent like that, and you did some...lets just say, "trailside repairs", I lost it. Great video!

[@robbchastain3036]

Any bike requires one to engage brain and use the machine within its parameters. And 400 bucks is a great place to start for an e-bike, it seems to me, you could always mount the motor and such on a better frame or whatever. And I work at a Walmart and assembled bikes for eight years and it was always breathtaking to me, the demand. It never, ever stopped. Build up a batch of bikes, roll 'em out to the sales floor, gone within days and sometimes even hours. And with the e-bikes, Walmart was selling a basic model a decade ago and one evening, an older gent was looking at it and I happily explained its features and benefits. But he replied, well, if he wanted that, he'd just ride his Harley.

[@sarthakkokane5776]

11:04 Anyone notice the figure on the right ?.....

[@DailyMTBRider]

Oh that’s just a big rotting tree stump

[@ridingwithpat7251]

Or maybe slenderman...

[@Daoy112]

That’s scary

[@CobraKyle]

That saddle was only slowing you down. Clever weight reduction strategy! I'm so stoked you actually got this bike! Appreciate the mention my friend!

[@mixflip]

I bought the same bike last Christmas for $399. It was fun but I returned it and used the money to buy a macwheel ebike because it had a 500 watt motor and a throttle.

[@noelbrantley3400]

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[@ramonridge8839]

@Noel Brantley instablaster ;)

[@noelbrantley3400]

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[@noelbrantley3400]

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[@ramonridge8839]

@Noel Brantley no problem =)

[@TheCrashingDad]

4:47 taht power stance is the bessssst!..... and wow... we always knew you had balls of steel (I'm sure I'm not the first person to comment this...but dang Josh!)

[@inhalethetrail3935]

Funny how you say your against e bike but have never rode one. Then you ride it and it's so much fun (and it's a cheap a$$ e bike). That's how it works with non e bike guys. I own both, but given the choice I pick e mtb every time. More laps = more fun. And that's why I ride. Love the videos btw

[@ciovicaalexandru]

i think upgrading it would make a great fun video

[@KyrinSolaq]

At 3:11 You can see that has a spot to mount a disc brake meaning that frame is used for other bikes

[@michealthomas4331]

This guy be like 'I dislike ebikes sooo much, I gotta get the cheapest, crappiest one, then roast it.' You got it at Walmart. I'm surprised it even turned on!

[@nofrontbrakes]

Seems legit. Really solid birth control. I want to know if the chain did in fact survive.

[@jap7856]

I am eMTBer, so the fact that you mention you would never get an eMTB, give it time you will be ride a real eMTB one day. As far as the content that was funny:) for $400 you got to go down one double-black diamond trail, so money well spent.

[@Tkolbo_]

It’s a great bike for shuttling your buds to the top of the mountain then you ride the double track back down to tow them up again! I didn’t know you did sick tricks like no footers hahahaha! Fun video Josh!

[@SimonBauer7]

or get a proper emtb shuttle your friends and get to ride down the trails with them without dying

[@Tkolbo_]

@@SimonBauer7 obviously that’s the best bet haha

[@23names]

DECENT VIDEO, MAKES ME THANKFUL I OWN AN A CHEER 16 INCH EBIKE(I DID SOME MODS SO ITS FASTER AND CAN GO LONG DISTANCES), I HAVE HAD IT OVER A YEAR AND IS STILL SOLID AND AWESOME, I CAN RIDE SLOW OR FAST WITHOUT PEDDLING, SOME EBIKE ARE JUST MADE SO CHEAP, ALSO WHEN THE BIKE HAS A 36 VOLT, 250 WATT HUB, YOU WILL NOT HAVE A TON OF TORQUE TO TOW ANOTHER RIDER UP A HILL WITHOUT STRAINING OUT OR STRESSING THE HUB, MUCH HIGHER WATTAGE AND VOLTAGE WOULD HAVE HELPED, AND MOST OF THE EBIKES WITH THAT RATING ONLY HAVE 8Ah TO 10Ah, SO THE DISTANCE IS LIMITED, I HAVE AN 8Ah and (2)18Ah BATTERIES, THE LARGER BATTERIES GET ME ABOUT 35 TO 40 MILES WITHOUT PEDDLING (EXCEPT FOR MAJOR HILLS), I DO LIVE IN A CITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF MAJOR HILLS, SO THE RIDE IS VERY ENJOYABLE BECAUSE I DO NOT WORRY ABOUT DISTANCE

[@edsjourney5536]

Commute to where what kind of range does that thing have on a single charge?

[@leekronforst4589]

Thanks for taking one for the team.

[@remyrippinn]

"I'm very nervous about the fork. Because it doesn't exist."

[@southsoundrider5428]

Great video bro! Awesome to see you still having fun up there!

[@thim8009]

Hot damn good to see you again!

[@FilthyCasual_Jhn20v29]

Who rounds down from $78? It’s a $500 bike.

[@JEMMTB1]

Hahaha, sorry the seat collapse was very funny, thanks for the eye watering laugh! 🤣

[@triggeredcat120]

“I love cheap bikes...” Well I may just slam that subscribe button. I was laughing so hard at the saddle being bent backwards. 😂😂😂

[@The_RC_Dude]

Me: Sees title: $400 + E-MTB + MTB trails = I never thought those words would be in the same sentence Edit: Lol my name is Isaac too!

[@michelleevans9869]

Good for light trails. It’s like comparing a Kia vs Acura. The hub works off of cadence sending vs torque sensing on a mod driver. Mid drives are thousands of dollars. For the price and average person you can’t beat the Hyper . Spend another 500 in upgrades and nobody on the mountain catch you

[@CaliradoKid]

I'm a firm believer that if you were to remove the reflectors you'd improve performance by .5%. 😂

[@GrnXnham]

got .6% on mine

[@thetoycollector4499]

☠☠☠☠☠

[@colindixon9543]

Josh for all your big box store bike needs see KevCentral channel. Glad you didn't die 👍

[@syncros99]

Wheel reflectors and then the kick stand. That was great.

[@acecyxyooj6954]

Hey at 11:05 there is a black figure standing. was that your friend? I was just wondering.

[@AverageDadMTB3]

How can you be against ebikes ? It’s the future I have a 10,000$ bike in Germany it’s a game changer get use to it

[@rustlingbushes7678]

Thank you for your service.

[@jeffstrong2993]

Omg my stomach hurts from laughing so hard hilarious. And couldn't believe you made it in one piece

[@RippinForRookies]

Hey Josh! What a wonderful gift you gave to Andy @ Flying Dutchmen Cards. Andy’s been a long time subscriber to my channel and he does an awesome job with his channel. I just gave you a sub and look forward to watching your channel!!

[@JJ_ExMachina]

And people wonder why it cots thousands of dollars to own a proper mountain bike... The seat failure on the Hyper is just one example of why...

[@RyanHryciuk]

Awesome video, love the channel. Mind telling me what size ixs knee pads you wear, I’ve been thinking about the same pair and was worried about the fit (we have similar builds). Tx!

[@tsunamidoc]

As you say, thanks for doing this so we dont have to. Was tempted and curious about these bikes. However dude, please never tow w bungee cords! That thing snaps and your buddy could have lost an eye.

[@brockmannwells]

When the saddle gave way I lost it 😂😂

[@RiggsRides]

Lol YES we all needed this today!🤘

[@MacedoinaChoirs]

The first thing I notice when I saw one in my local Walmart was that this is not a Mountain Bike, But it plays one on You Tube.

[@michaelqu]

It would be the perfect bike for camp grounds. Shorter distances, dirt or gravel trails that isn't sutible for road bikes but doesn't justify a full on mountain bike.

[@CY3ERD0G]

Pads worn??? or new cable stretch

[@tjbriggs303]

Does anyone know where to find the cheapest fat-tire e-bike?? Looking for something for my son who is my height and weight. 5'10 around 160lbs. Greatly appreciate ya!

[@96Duelfuel]

Well, if you were just riding it along bike lanes and bike paths, would it do the trick?

[@dansouthcomb5439]

As for the speed that is the way all cadence sensors work, cheap or expensive.

[@jayv9779]

Why in the world would you be against ebikes? You don't have to ride them. Just an odd position to hold.

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

That's a mountain looking commuter e-bike. Rim brakes have an undeserved bad rep. They're fine as long as your rim isn't wet or dirty, so fine for the road & fair weather. For $400 that bike is better than the local bus?

[@youknowwithMartyKauffman]

How’s the mini truck you still have it ?

[@aidansarhosh9146]

Does this bike have a throttle that you can use with your right hand?

[@3Dogs1CatandMore]

You are a very brave man, my friend!

[@niacal4nia]

I'm sure you can hack and bypass the speed sensor and add a throtle switch.

[@shredderzing8829]

Chuckanut is the best! We have been riding there a lot the past few weeks. I can't belive you were brave enough to send it on that.

[@M3garage1]

I would like to see some upgrades done to this badboy

[@GARBO96]

I live in Santa Cruz I had this bike it took nine rides for it to break I didn't do anything crazy didn't do any drops basically all Cross Country Trails

[@Mikemalone7873]

Chinesium seat rails. Make sure you have children BEFORE use. BTW, we got my wife a Turbo Levo and PRESTO! She rides as fast as me and we go on epic rides! Hopefully people will ease up on the e-bike hate, much the same way the equestrians eased up on the MTB hate in the late '80s and early '90s, opening up the trails for us folk. How soon we forget...

[@BicMichuM]

Im getting the full shoes...theyre pretty good for the price...1298 for a mid drive full shoes is pretty good...with upgrades itl do

[@mrlaforgephysics]

"Totally against ebikes" but you're ok with buying one to have some fun and try something new. Are you against only expensive ebikes for some reason? Is your regular mountain biking super serious or something?

[@leightondavies8884]

Condescending Pleb I’d call him

[@bananasstuff3344]

Its interesting, isn't it, that ebikes complain about being hated on, and then hate on anyone who says they don't want an ebike. Huh.

[@TrailTrekker]

I wonder how long until that Walmart battery explodes 🤔

[@323johnnybravo]

Sam pilgrim is always looking for a New Free Bike to challenge :)

[@DrQuizzler]

It sounds like you really liked that eBike for road and commuting. Did the assist only have one level, and did the "+" and "-" buttons on the left not do anything?

[@harrygrimley4352]

Can you take those on mnt biking trail ? Technically a motorized bike not allowed on trails right?

[@likebutton8656]

Yea you can take it on a mtb trail it’s not gas powered

[@vegasstacker3857]

This one doesn't have a throttle, should be fine.

[@mattgies]

The law on that varies by location. He said in the video that this was the one MTB area in Bellingham where EMTBs are allowed.

[@ryankennard6626]

Don’t spend too much time watching a guy crush his cherries on a Walmart eBike for $400. Get out there and crush your own for $6k!

[@finniansmith7697]

Is that little pump track at squalicum park?

[@yeldawg907]

You're a mad lad taking that thing to chucanut, I walked that feature on Saturday

[@dirceualejandrogutierrezca7515]

The real question is, what if you put an acceptable fork on it (obviously not a fox 38 factory grip 2) but an acceptable air fork, some grippier tires and some entry level disc brakes, i mean, the bike on its own doesnt seem THAT BAD, its just out of the store new, i think it would be fair if you put some upgrades on it because lets be honest, most of us dont have our bikes even CLOSE as they were out of the store

[@bananasstuff3344]

That could be interesting, but you have to think about the fact that it started cheap, so probably will stay sort cheap.

[@angelas4681]

"Ow, my nuts." I am dying. 😂😂

[@TyrannoKoenigsegg]

Strange. I have the same exact saddle, I weigh 257lbs.... HOW MUCH DO YOU WEIGH?

[@HunkabrninSteele]

They are now over $650. I got mine for $299 from a damaged freight and grocery outlet. The box was tore up.

[@HunkabrninSteele]

I weigh 240 pounds and my forks don’t bottom out.

[@BackyardShredder]

Now try a good bike, and use lots of Emperor Palpatine quotes. lol

[@chuckmckee2741]

Hub drives suck compared to mid drives. Yet I know you were just showing us this one. But the towing deal really isn’t what it’s to be used for .

[@lostwarhead]

Just because the "brakes pull all the way to the leaver" doesn't mean the brakes are going out. You can clearly see you havent adjusted them at all. Also, i think you would have bent most seats landing on it like that.

[@fcv1967]

Why would you be against eBike's in general?

[@flashfreez6414]

It's funny how 2 years ago he hated EMTB's now he loves them

[@NotARealChef]

Think of it as a cheap gravel bike for the wife. Slap some cheap rear disc brakes, unfortunately the front end is not as simple as bolt on.

[@minakpopfap5316]

I have 2 e-bikes from this same brand and both are awesome.

[@sh4branze]

All bikes have upgradable forks/shocks. Easy upgrade.

[@paghal11]

Thanks to that quality saddle, I believe that you actually did "Chuck a Nut"

[@sburton015]

Ok, so this Hyper bicycle will give you so many problems that it will literally make you "Hyper". Lol.

[@FlyingFun.]

$400 is peanuts for a mountain bike these days without electric so no surprise its total garbage as a mountain bike. As a commuter it seems a ok deal. I converted a decent second hand moubtIn bike with a cheap kit and got better results but still not safe of trails like that. However I also have a proper emtb and it is an absolute blast.