Yo what is up guys do you think the final hyper carry team is balanced considering the ice resistance it was facing, it was doing more damage than most of my carries do without resistance. Also, this isn't my usual team building video I do for dps characters and certainly took a lot more work so let me know if it was worth it and was more interesting or helpful to you.
@forcefulstorm6187 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you putting this much effort in, holy hell.
@nabi7701 Жыл бұрын
This was incredibly interesting content. Must have taken ages to do all this. My only "criticism" isn't really even that critical. And that is that this vid undervalues pela and silverwolf a little for those who use quantum set on Jingliu (which even without quantum weak is very close to ice set. And is much better against quantum weak enemies). Since it's near identical to ice set in terms of performance, it's best to use the one which you have better substats on. And both are better than wild wheat for Jingliu. And since Quantum set is one of the most farmed domains (for Seele, Qingque, Silverwolf, Fu Xuan. And all squishy supports like 2pc wuthering), you are much more likely to have a better Quantum set. Defense shred gets more powerful with a larger amount, so the results would lean more towards Silverwolf and Pela. So it might have been more fair to use Quantum set for Pela and SW showcases, and wild wheat/ ice set for the other teams. But I understand that it would make things more complicated. Since it would be tough to get equal stats on both sets and that would make comparisons much harder.
@malificajones7674 Жыл бұрын
Luocha/Bronya/Tingyun/Jingliu is my whale team and it's totally broken.
@sorrow6011 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what these tests would look like once Huo Huo is out, get the feeling she's gonna be an absolute nuts combo with Jingliu.
@mainsterr2474 Жыл бұрын
Should totally now redo the Imbibitor Lunae vs JingLiu vid now, clearly didn't see JingLiu in her full power, you used Pela over Tingyun. *insert vine boom and random noises* But on a bit more serious note .... Does this mean that the entire time, JingLiu, Bronya, Pela, Luocha wasn't the best team? I assume it's still the team most people might use because in some scenarios, your tingyun might be more useful in another team making that other team more useful.
@Sodium779 Жыл бұрын
Loving how Jingliu is flexible enough be a hypercarry or a subDPS like Qingque - which is why Im looking forward to Grimlo’s QQ guide!
@planetary-rendez-vous Жыл бұрын
Save this man from samsara please
@artumbo Жыл бұрын
This man is dedicated. Great video as always!
@steffie3148 Жыл бұрын
Jingliu + Blade team is the most fun comp I have tested
@tweezy5804 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@fedrecedriz6868 Жыл бұрын
That's my end goal team. I'm waiting for a Blade rerun. Hopefully, he will come back soon.
@mattscott4792 Жыл бұрын
Yup, I thought I had a pretty good and built Blade, but he immediately became my sub-dps, but still amazingly good comp to play.
@josefelipe2812 Жыл бұрын
Which support did you use?
@jayb7775 Жыл бұрын
@@josefelipe2812 i use Pela to benefit both Jingliu+Blade.
@sorrowful.nights Жыл бұрын
10:47 damn i didnt know asta was such an edge lord jokes aside, really informative video. while testing a few jingliu teams myself, i found using blade with her was the most fun especially in sim universe, glad to see that its one of her best teams
@lvlurarti Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect Jingliu's dual DPS team to be just as good as her hypercarry team. I guess the age of dual DPS teams is finally here with two DPS that don't consume that many skill points. Great video as always!
@madcat6299 Жыл бұрын
I've been using dual DPS for a while now. Consisting of IL, Blade, Pela and Luocha. It's been my favorite team so far. They're so good against Kafka, Yanqing, Void ranger and Sanctus medicus
@lvlurarti Жыл бұрын
@@madcat6299 I've been looking at Prydwen's MoC data for quite a while now, and I've tried it myself before, dual DPS teams always tend to perform worse than hypercarry teams in terms of average cycles. This is the first time a dual DPS team can perform similarly to a hypercarry team.
@fedrecedriz6868 Жыл бұрын
@lvlurarti I think it's also because Jingliu and Blade both pair up really well, or even perfectly. Jingliu's team hp drain gives Blade more stacks for more follow-up attacks. So the dps evens out when compared to the normal hypercarry team. I do have my own calcs with Jingliu + Blade vs. Jingliu Hypercarry, but my numbers have shown that Jingliu + Blade wins.
@bajcli Жыл бұрын
@@fedrecedriz6868 Yep, this team is defo an anomaly. It's rare enough to have 2 DPS characters that aren't very skill point intensive (Blade is probably the only one that doesn't need to use a skill point every single turn, and Jingliu also gets by on 1/turn), but the fact that she ALSO helps him proc his follow-up attacks (which helps his healing as well) is a pretty nutty synergy. Don't really expect it to change any time soon + at the point where hypercarry teams can also 0-cycle, it doesn't seem to matter too much. Not to mention that the only good support 5-star we've gotten since release is Silver Wolf, while we've been flooded with new DPSers. I wouldn't be surprised that if Hoyoverse were to release a few Harmony 5-stars that are similar in power to Blade or DHIL and who'd outperform good ol' Bronya & Tingyun, hypercarry teams would continue to be top.
@hulahupjingga Жыл бұрын
Yep, dual dps with bronya. Bronya shoulder alot of burden, everyone just want her. Me still along way to go for 300, and atleast ma boy E3 danhengIL doesnt really need her.
@jasonchan5504 Жыл бұрын
Hi guys, I'm just here to add that for people like me with no Luocha but have pulled for Fu Xuan, you can absolutely replace Luocha with Fu Xuan. She does a great job at solo sustaining as long as your DPS and support can end the battle quickly enough.
@DaMastaDavina Жыл бұрын
This is my same combo also. I have fu xuan e1 so it helps jingliu a lot.
@Elainyan Жыл бұрын
Ofc fu xuan works since shes best sustainer either way
@sherurei Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, now I don't need to save for Luocha anymore!
@theolailheugue9402 Жыл бұрын
@@sherurei and huo huo also gonna be a better version of luocha in certain team cause she gonna heal + batterie the entire team and boost atq.
@roy__masters Жыл бұрын
I got JL+Fuxuan+Seele for my second acc atm she is glued with Seele due the crit rate could do better for Seele and faster Quantum break as well, Atm my sustain for JL is Gepard if shit hits the fan Gepard+Lynx works great too.
@GOKpot Жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Finally a Luocha guide and best team! That's all i need
@kalWuWa Жыл бұрын
I'm doing Jingliu, Tingyun, Bailu and Blade comp and man it was anxiety-inducing Jingliu who sips out HP, Tingyun with high aggro rate, Blade draining his own HP and Bailu who's just waiting on who's gonna die first lol It's truly a chaotic team comp
@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 Жыл бұрын
TBH, using *Blade* with Bailu is always exactly that anxiety inducing. She just can't heal for enough, or often enough, to support him effectively much less him and anyone else using the SP. You can easily spend 50% of your health turn one.
@paulyu535 Жыл бұрын
I think the thing people need to realize when running a sub dps is that your support needs to be buffing both main and sub dps in order for it to be a gain. Asta, Pela, SW and Bronya are great for this purpose. Advancing forward your Jingliu with Bronya enables more hp drain which buffs blade and the Bronya ult gives blade the cdmg he craves. The atk bonus isn’t the best for Jing and Blade, but it’s not wasted, either.
@spunkyred Жыл бұрын
i think the pela/sw comps would fair better if you were using the quantum set with her
@johannesmanninen6416 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Hard nope. Hitting 100% def shred/ignore is a hard cap. You can't go past that. Edit: 5 seconds after I said that I realised you meant single def shred unit.
@Rhyhmx Жыл бұрын
For Fu Xuan havers, she's extremely nice with her especially since at talent lvl 10 you get 12% crit rate for free so you need less rolls to get close/exactly 100% CR in her enhanced state
@Max-sn3hr Жыл бұрын
It's worth mentioning that if you're planning on running the quantum set you must have silverwolf with you. Fu xuan as solo sustain will help massively.
@hikershay11395 Жыл бұрын
this type of video is great because many of us have different accounts and it's always nice to see how we compare against an ideal account, also what pulls we can consider to get closer
@sleepyheartss Жыл бұрын
This was a very amazing idea, easy to understand, and thoughtful to include ALL types of players! I look forward to seeing more of these
@camilaloaiza7731 Жыл бұрын
This video was SO FUN to watch, not just because the info is amazing but also you presented it in a great way, highly appreciate it... Even if I'm not pulling for Jingliu hahahaha. I get 4 really important things from this analysis: 1. Is obvious right now that the weakness type is not as important anymore since we have units like DHIL and Jingliu. 2. Debuffers are really good, but Harmony units increase your stats SO MUCH that transforms your DPS into a hitting machine. 3. All type of support is welcome, but Turn Manipulation (Advance Forward) and Energy Recovery cheats the game in an incredible way. 4. WE NEED A 5* BATTERY, Tingyun can't be everywhere. Could you do a similar video with different DPS units when we have more supports? I feel like right now is quite... meh because we have 5 Harmony units and only 2 debuffers but would be nice in the future.
@Rayhaku808 Жыл бұрын
If an angry redditor gets upset at how Prydwen does their tier list rankings. This video answers their unrealistic expectations. Look at how much you have to do for one character. Imagine that but all of them. Then doing it again for the next MoC rotation. On top of that adding 2-3 new characters every patch. This man is the hero we don't deserve.
@Zoeila Жыл бұрын
I think this partly happens because not everyone is TB lvl 60
@mangshu21 Жыл бұрын
But if you don't do comprehensive testing then people can question. You can't cry about it that people aren't happy when every character doesn't get the same treatment. They have a point, easy for you to talk shit because you agree with prydwen despite not doing calcs yourself. There are so many who are clearing MOC with off meta who don't agree with prydwen but you brush them off oh because they are redditors, Come on now.
@dantaylmao Жыл бұрын
@@mangshu21So many can continue to clear with whoever they want... Just like every content creator has been saying you can since day 1 lmao. Absolutely no reason to get so wild 😂
@ymw1107 Жыл бұрын
@@dantaylmaohere's the thing though, if they pride themselves as the defactor TCs of this game, they absolutely have to do justice to that. That includes setting up base point and assumption of diff teams so people can have a rough idea where each specific character performance is at their respective team investment and not only on a solo character strengths, where it's basically useless in the grand scheme of things. The game is a turn based game, they have a lot less variation and assumptions to consider as compared to action games like MH and genshin where the TC over there have so many more variables in combat scenarios to consider. So yeah, although I don't condone them being so riled up for a simple tier list, they definitely also have a point there.
@manfredirizzo6999 Жыл бұрын
True, i had to farm for a month to have S tier relics overall on Blade, so its quote time expensive (i have Blade, his light cone, Jingliu and her light cond and i’m not even a free2play player, but more like a free2play+, becouse i shop the monthly things, like pass and the 90 daily gems)
@zerntigo Жыл бұрын
this was an incredible video, would love to see this kind of analysis for every unit going forward!
@vulshie2605 Жыл бұрын
Jingliu is such a Queen she took everything from Daniel : the herta lc, blade loucha peela even his attack rope from ritualnt but its such a fun team to run. Poor Dan Heng is gonna be stuck manning the other side with copium and sampo for a long time
@Zharque Жыл бұрын
This video is heaven-sent since I have only Jingliu and Blade as my dps characters. I was hesitating whether or not I should pull for Jingliu but I was eventually convinced by the fact that they work well together, meaning I can just slap them on the same team in SU and overworld. The only thing I'm sad about is that both of them has anti-synergy with my E6 Asta, which is really sad since I can't use her. Still not sure what team I'll be using for Jingliu but this video definitely helped a lot. Only thing I don't like is that Tingyun gives speed buff and ruins Jingliu's speed tuning with Pela. Still wondering if I should give Bronya to Blade or Jingliu as well on MoC. not sure yet who needs her more. The eventual goal is to pull for a third dps so I wouldn't have to worry about it anymore.
@connorkim5855 Жыл бұрын
pull another dps so you run blade and jing in the same team XD w/ bronya
@isateasane Жыл бұрын
@@connorkim5855this 😂. I run both on the same team and jl just pumps blade's passive and they both go fk ppl up hand in hand
@_orion_5411 Жыл бұрын
holy shit blade/bronya/luocha/jingliu is the team i started out on, didnt even know it was that good, it was just what i had
@LohseDotWav Жыл бұрын
She's SO strong. I have been 0 cycling side one with 100% consistency with JL/Bronya/Pela/FuXuan. I can't wait to dedicate the next couple months of my life to making the funny CDMG number go up
@tweezy5804 Жыл бұрын
Mine is at 40% crit rate / 275% crit damage.
@abba9881 Жыл бұрын
and even more importantly, she is so satisfying to use
@warshawgameshd3432 Жыл бұрын
@@tweezy5804 bruh, I keep rolling crit rate on all my pieces.
@alderwield9636 Жыл бұрын
When bronya ult and fx skill is up, I got approximately 86/290 ish
@jerrychen3428 Жыл бұрын
I think an interesting question for f2p players is what are the best teams without TY/Bronya and how closely do they perform to a team with. Currently a lot of us don’t have the luxury of giving one DPS two of the best supports and thereby gimping the other side of MoC. For example, for a f2p player a pretty common scenario is having DHIL+JL or JY+JL, and having to pick who to give TY to and what to do about the side that doesn’t have TY. So, aside from TY/Bronya, which combination can achieve as close a result as possible to the optimal ones?
@Zer0Hour17 Жыл бұрын
I mean he showed both Yukong and Asta teams that don't use Tingyun or Bronya. They'll clear but they're noticeably worse.
@jerrychen3428 Жыл бұрын
@@Zer0Hour17 for sure, but would have liked for there to be some non-TY/Bronya data on second side too. they’re noticeably worse, but which combination is least worse?
@chaosinfernoid9008 Жыл бұрын
I would say use Welt or Yanqing If you have any of them. Any Breaker also will do depending on what your facing. Since she is so Aggresive that's my take.
@MarineMyste Жыл бұрын
This was a high effort video, thank you so much for your contribution to the community. I also liked how there r f2p options!
@maevethefox5912 Жыл бұрын
Getting the F2P options at the end helped a ton. I've been sort of on and off playing this game, and don't have any 5-star sustain, no real eidolons outside of e6 Sampo (seriously the game gave me Sampo on almost every pull). I pulled Jingliu and got excited but then started looking up team builds and it's like ... I've got FireMC and Natasha, folks. I don't want to have to wait for a Luocha rerun just to play xD
@IdeasAreBulletproof Жыл бұрын
After Struggling in MOC 10 Before when I somehow managed to beat MOC 9. Jingliu Tingyun Pela and Fu were able to 2 cycle MOC 10. I Tried to throw Yukongous into there and she died while it took 6-8 cycles to Clear. You can Build a Quantum Ignore Def Jingliu and have a fun time aganist Ice Enemies including Cocolia.
@nullifiedmatt Жыл бұрын
Amazing work! Thank you for the time and effort! I’m glad I was able to get Ting E6 from this banner!
@Lol-Lol0 Жыл бұрын
Jingliu,bronya,tingyun,luocha team definitely hit the hardest but there r a lot of flaw as well. Having tingyun+bronya on one team makes the 2nd team line up becomes much more complicated,this team kinda only works if u have E1S1 bronya otherwise the SP kinda go nuts,survivability issue as well since u mostly want the sustain to only spam basic but if u were to fight very strong enemies and u constantly need to use skill on the sustain unit then it's definitely much better to replace tingyun or bronya to other unit who is definitely much more SP positive. Tho this is just my opinion.
@lafdranya6772 Жыл бұрын
Agree. This team need E1s1 Bronya to make it better than other team. If you have DoT team you can ignore Tingyun like me lol
@Byaksune Жыл бұрын
Impressive! The game is maturing and as we get more characters, guides like this become super important, I myself was worried about her team and now I can decide better.
@gloxinixx7938 Жыл бұрын
100/10 quality content right here! Even though I'm not pulling for Jing Liu, I enjoyed watching this a lot. The format is well planned and every part of the video was very informative ❤
@deystar_ Жыл бұрын
some doubts cleared, love that, i change beetwen tingyun and pela and i always go jing, bronya and bailu/lynx i cleared moc 10 first time thanks to this goddes glamorous queen
@luigi495 Жыл бұрын
Jingliu + Blade + pela + Loucha is my fav team and you can play it 100% auto :D
@Elfcon Жыл бұрын
amazing video I might disagree with the way of the ranking but more info like this is helpful for everyone tnx u king
@xXLordYggdrasillXx Жыл бұрын
As expected the one character you really want to pair up with Jingliu is Bronya. The second character seems very flexible between Tingyun, Pela or a double dps comp with Blade. Which is great for most people who dont have every character. A few additional things to note: Jingliu is not using her best set here. And a full quantum set would benefit Pela the most, so there is additional damage to be gained for her teams, especially for people who have her signature LC. Tingyuns optimal performance is more eidolon dependant than Pela and also needs to use more skillpoints. Skillpoints can be a bottleneck for people with less optimal team options or investment. Bronya alone in the video is E1S1. Both the eidolon and the LC are enabling more skill point usage by other team members. For people without one or even both, skillpoints become a more important resource. So having to Tingyun skill a lot because Jingliu gets so many turns is less viable for the majority of people. This is again favouring Pela a bit more who can contribute most of her buffing power with complete skill point positivity and is not dependant on how many turns your Jingliu takes. More skillpoints also allows a weaker sustainer than Luocha to skill from time to time if needed. So Tingyun is great for bursting a fight down fast, but overall harder to make work for slightly longer fights where Pela offers more flexibility while still offering good damage buffing. Tldr: Bronya is the best as expected. Grims account favours Tingyun over Pela compared to what most people probably got.
@yangster5106 Жыл бұрын
Why is quantum set best for Pela?
@xXLordYggdrasillXx Жыл бұрын
@@yangster5106 Sry, might be badly worded on my end. Putting the quantum set on Jingliu (not Pela) gives her better damage than the 4p Musketeers Grim is using. Quantum set has defense ignore and any form of defense down/ignore benefits from having more of it. So Jinglius damage is at her highest using the quantum set + Pela ult def down + def down from resolution + def ignore from Jinglius LC. This gives 90% def ignore to Jingliu for a massive boost in damage.
@dan_963_ Жыл бұрын
@@xXLordYggdrasillXxagainst quantum weak enemies the quantum set is stronger ( what a surprise...) like 3%. And against non weak enemies ice set performance better. Quantum set vs non quantum enemies performance few % worse. Means ice set is best for general fights against random enemies.
@xXLordYggdrasillXx Жыл бұрын
@@dan_963_ If you have Jinglius LC and are using Pela consistently with her, quantum set becomes about equal to ice set vs non quantum weak and is like 6% stronger against quantum weak. So if you are planning on using a Jingliu+Pela combo, then quantum set is the better generalist set. If you arent planning on running Pela, then yeah quantum set is not optimal.
@christophermolitor4554 Жыл бұрын
That was some top quality effort fir skme top quality content. Thabks for this!
@Luvanweed Жыл бұрын
another great benefit from running jingliu + blade is that the team gets much more tanky and consistent (particularly if you use luocha or lynx). I will be running that team as my second team, and Dan il with ting as my first. Probably the most fun team to pilot right now.
@marloncini5067 Жыл бұрын
Really liked the format of this video, great work
@lordastrea2765 Жыл бұрын
the dedication here is amazing. really enjoyed the video. now i need to wait until i hit the 300 pity for bronya
@zippora11 Жыл бұрын
That must have taken you an eternity! Thanks so much 😊
@keanesn.1513 Жыл бұрын
love this bro this is a lot of work and very very useful testing
@smittywababla Жыл бұрын
This is the coolest team guide for Jing Liu out there!
@adamwoods8202 Жыл бұрын
Doing the hard yards so we dont have to... Much appreciated Grimro!!! Subbing for this!
@tweezy5804 Жыл бұрын
Soo easy to build, mine is nuts, 40% crit rate / 270% crit damage / 138 speed. Blade plus Jingliu by far my favorite team soo far in the whole game.
@strat3gland Жыл бұрын
Wow, you must had some god rolls on cd
@bajcli Жыл бұрын
@@strat3gland"So easy to build, just get all your substat rolls to go into crit stats & a few into speed 4Head"
@zeph769 Жыл бұрын
@@bajcli She is objectively the easiest main DPS to gear though, just cos this dude over-invested into her for the sake of it doesn't make that point moot. Her traces give her a huge amount of ATK% (along with Aeon) and her CR issues are solved through her talent, she's also the only one with SPD traces so getting to 134 SPD breakpoint is easy as shit
@strat3gland Жыл бұрын
@@bajcli
@hulahupjingga Жыл бұрын
@@zeph769if people go for E0S1, almost all mainstream dps unit had 50% crit rate like JL, from crit rate body + signature 18% crit rate(blade,DanhengIL, Seele) or Jingyuan who gets from trace. It seem people really avoiding using crit rate body.
@opbro751 Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story have a Bronya🙂
@sammy5480 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the testing, it sure must have taken some time and dedication. I'm quite surprised by the performance of Bronya-Tingyun teams : it sure looks awkward to play on paper. Good to know.
@daniel-ix8wx Жыл бұрын
everyday, more and more people regret skipping luocha the goat
@scrublord7922 Жыл бұрын
Zhongli nostalgia 😂
@noxlunesia Жыл бұрын
My team is Jingliu, Tingyun, Lynx, and Blade. Both pairs of characters work together, Lynx is the healer and Blade is the tank, as Lynx can designate him the target of attacks (more stacks) and keep damage off of Tingyun and Jingliu Tingyun gives jIngliu more ult energy, keeping her in burst phase longer Overall I don't think I'm swapping any of these characters out. I genuinely prefer Tingyun over Bronya because her niche just fits so perfectly.
@TheJersey973101 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised pela and tingyun are so good with her . Tingyun energy regen is just so good
@KiraTobira Жыл бұрын
since i dont have bronya or luocha, or most 5* cuz game hates my f2p pulls lol my team is actually pela - jingliu - dan IL - bailu i actually build pela around ERR her ultimate comes so often the boss is basically constant def - works pretty well too lol its also my personal style im usually not a fan of 2 buffers even tho its 99% the meta going for bronya/tingyun in basically all builds nowadays, theres sadly no big variations to test things out and i feel thats the main problem for HSr in the future when it comes to dps chars
@Obakedake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide - ice been using Bronya E5 ting and Fu Xuan and it’s great so fast she just spams her ult
@phillipp.3171 Жыл бұрын
That was quick, excellent video as always!
@aysllanlima1205 Жыл бұрын
Grimro, that was an amazing video Hope that u can bring this type of video again when new future units arrive to the game
@flame79800 Жыл бұрын
Honestly surprised how well bronya worked and how pela wasn’t the best for her. Overall very informative though thanks for the video 👍 really happy duel dps worked so well hope we see a shift towards duel dps over hyper carry teams in the future
@hulahupjingga Жыл бұрын
Lol, bronya crowned as best Support for a reason afterall
@dubstepforever99 Жыл бұрын
that blade team was what i was running already, didnt know it was the best blade team
@theviper2176 Жыл бұрын
Love the vid. Will say that I will be sticking to the Pela, Bronya, Jing just because I can't ever play Seele without her pocket Tingyun. Just too good.
@ViniciusGabriel-ww6ix Жыл бұрын
Bruh i still can't get over the fact that i have an E2 Yanquing and no bronya ;-;
@MrYamiBakura Жыл бұрын
For Hypercarry, Luocha can be switched out for Fu Xuan if Jingliu only makes it to 38% Crit. Ofc especially good with her E1.
@fadasd Жыл бұрын
Insane thorough content! Appreciate the effort.
@kevinmolina2878 Жыл бұрын
Wait Blade + JinLiu just with Bronya and TingYun?? Why didn't you tested with Pela? I mean, isn't she the one who is suppose to work better in multiple carry scenarios?
@GrimroGacha Жыл бұрын
Sorry I messed up the time stamp check the blade best good teams one at 10:08
@kevinmolina2878 Жыл бұрын
I see. Thank you Grimro! Also I notice that at 12:52 it says "ASTA" under the picture of Blade xd
@PeachtreeCorners Жыл бұрын
Glad Blade got one of the top decks; I was worried when things were showing hypercarry better than Blade-combo
@vince4229 Жыл бұрын
Would've been nice to see yukong and asta paired with blade in the team comps since they're able to buff both dmg dealers. Great vid tho!
@Nouta64 Жыл бұрын
I did 0 cycle run with Jingliu, Clara, Pela and Luocha. It did cost me some sanity to try it over and over again but I did it 😂
@Oatmeal_Games Жыл бұрын
Im running a Jing, Fu, Pela, Ting and it absolutely slaps. If I absolutely need sustain Ill swap in a Healer (usually my Lynx) in Ting or Pelas place. Fu can absorb and heal so much damage it kind of doesn't matter and I use the light cone that makes her heal every time she ultimate's so She is pretty much unkillable most of the time since she now has Two Big heals on herself. This allows Ting and pela to buff and debuff making Jing a monster.
@chaosinfernoid9008 Жыл бұрын
Uhh that's a great Idea sad that i only have E1 Pela but crazy that she can be a Sub Dps here. And Freeze everything to Death. Anyway guess imma get my Welt then and also Slow them down Times Infinity. Lol.
@chaosinfernoid9008 Жыл бұрын
Other then that Waifu Fu for the Win Ting as well
@GoatedGang7 ай бұрын
At this point in time. What other sustains are best for her other than Luocha?
@Sin0w_ Жыл бұрын
3 times to reduce randome error, and i think having same relics for support characters in a rainbow set would probs be best just to see the synergies between each party member. Having set effects and such will result in some characters having better sets and stats than other which can attribute to different clear times
@josephmeckel872 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I could tell it was a lot of work and it was very helpful.
@roy__masters Жыл бұрын
I like these new series of tests from you, a bit surprised the non ice weak enemies is better to go Tingyun, Bronya than Bronya, Pela meanwhile for ice weak enemies Bronya+Pela seems the way to go. Blade with JL goes great too I don't have him but I've been borrowing him A LOT lately, might as well consider him for the rerun unless I see another char that could go great with YL too, she open a lot of posibilities to dual dps as well. I wonder how Yukong+Blade+JL will work if you speed tune them well, anyways thanks for all these test Grim, Plz do this for IL too, I'll be looking forward to it.😁
@MsDark93 Жыл бұрын
16:30 - the target is on Jingliu, but both Tramplers will go out of their way to kick the non-targeted Tingyun in the face. Because of course.
@vickdinvick5485 Жыл бұрын
nice... really good to know before hand that pela with tingyun is a really good combo to JL, because thats the team i want to run, need to free my bronya to the blade team, hes on atk boots, need my fast bronya more.
@varryi2041 Жыл бұрын
I was having a lot of fun with a Jing Liu-Pela-Lynx-Blade team and had a lot of excess skill points which I used for Lynx skill on Blade and maknig him soak up all the dmg. But i think once I'm done building Jing Lui and run her in MoC I'd rather use Bronya here bc then I can run Pela with IL or maybe Seele/Jing Yuan (buth they mostly use Fu Xuan-SW-Flex as their teams:) Can't for more sub dps type characters and more supports!
@pk0a0gundam Жыл бұрын
This video was full of soooo much good info and insight!
@richardjones8846 Жыл бұрын
it makes me happy that blade+jing is a winning combo because now he can stabbed by her everyday
@feripuu Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Madoka bless your pulls Grim! Jingliu is 💙 I love JL Bronya Fu team, Jingliu my favorite dps now.
@evokaiyo Жыл бұрын
The only issue I find with Tingyun/Bronya combo is that in harder content, Tingyun likes to try tank aggro and die
@Balakin2 Жыл бұрын
I got 0 cycles with TY pela luocha, but 2 cycles with bronya pela luocha (only first half because I'm lazy, though i did try both teams multiple times fwiw) To elaborate, I think TY is better for JL than bronya because bronya just takes your current rotation and speeds it up, with middling uptime, but tingyun actually enables a new, substantially higher damage rotation (that being 4-5 EE's per transmigration). Furthermore, because thats reliant on TY getting multiple ults, it only works specifically with tingyun and *not* bronya, because bronya makes you exit the state so fast. The only thing faster than moving twice as fast is never having downtime, right? The higher damage rotation is not just more consistent, higher damage, and faster (in my experience), but the extra EE's are also extra energy gen beyond what tingyun just gives directly. Imagine if tingyun's ult gave 80 energy, thats basically whats happening here.
@rainingrotom Жыл бұрын
I actually cleared in -1 cycles with a pretty interesting team. first, I used jingliu, of course, since that is who we are testing. Then, I decided to include march 7th, since she is able to use follow-up attacks to deal massive damage. I decided that the team was still lacking damage, so I included a skill point neutral character like arlan to round out the comp. Of course, the team could use some more support, so I added Dr. Ratio to invert the enemies' stats. This team was really impressive, but I do not see many others discussing the viability of it.
@LeonNguyen Жыл бұрын
1:55 well, if you had Rutilant and Ice/Quantum set, I'm sure a few of these results will have 1 cycle less.
@viviansytsui Жыл бұрын
IDK why I thought in my mind double DPS would be better but it's nice to see Bronya+Tingyun works amazingly. Maybe even better!
@shenji06 Жыл бұрын
thanks what an amazing guide and breakdown for multiple options going to use that f2p team until i get lucky and get luchoa
@Wubbabooo Жыл бұрын
The Bronya Blade Loucha comp is very op. Good stuff. Not the best one, but still very good especially with an e6 blade. Ive noticed that Jing really doesn't agree with any sort of attack boosts. Overall a good character, but boring compared to the other DPS both build wise and play wise.
@JovazPulse Жыл бұрын
This was a damn good video. Very efficient and enjoyed that you showed how to run the battle with f2p characters. The tough spot for me is having YQ. As well as IL who is using the free 5*destruction light cone. So if I got her I would need her light cone as well. Wouldn’t have enough to get Loucha and Hanabi guaranteed. I wish I thought about my finances as much as I do this game 😆. Good stuff either way Grim 👍
@AraYuannn Жыл бұрын
Jingliu blade bronya and luocha is my current fav
@Eqvil Жыл бұрын
We are talking about zero cycle here. How redundant these calculations (and pulling) are when you remember that you get no reward for 0 cycling. We need a butter knife to spread the butter, but are researching military grade carbon steel knives.
@MalixFarwin Жыл бұрын
i am surprised you didnt use Lynx over loucha in the blade teams for your testing.
@aesaidauroria3458 Жыл бұрын
that bronya + tingyun combo is insane.
@peanutbutterandjedi Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the results for teams including Pela and/or Silver Wolf would differ if Jingliu was wearing the genius set. Thanks for the video!
@splishsplash37 Жыл бұрын
im using Jingliu, Tingyun, Pela, and either Fu Xuan or Lynx (replace tingyun with Clara). the team is pretty good however tingyun energy gets capped sometimes because of cycles with jingliu.
@try2fly Жыл бұрын
Insane video. So much work. Wow
@holeintuni Жыл бұрын
10:48 ah yes, Asta in her emo phase
@GrimroGacha Жыл бұрын
Hahaha woops bit of a editting mistake on the name.
@Igraphi7335 Жыл бұрын
At the moment i see only Seele or User of quantum with her pair the reason is both of them can use to the same set and for both of them is benefit for Pela Users. Ofcourse not requirement her Lc but if you need more impact you have to get her original Lc. The main problem of it she doesnt gain of energy but! Still is perfect. I also tested for double dps and is much much clearly pela is great debuffer for them. Probably pela soon or later will be S+ rank like SW did.
@paulobernardes9832 Жыл бұрын
But Pela already S+ on tier lmao
@dreggor4845 Жыл бұрын
Really fun 0 cycle with blade jingliu sw fuxuan, really easy but i think fuxuan lightcone is a must
@alibanimalek3578 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this new format. However, I wish we've seen Fu Xuan included... Maybe an update video?
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
Keeping Luocha static as fourth slot is a bit hindering. Like if this Luocha was Lynx, Blade would be much stronger. If Lynx was paired with Silverwolf, she would be able to apply more consistent weakness and shred.. etc
@dragonkus6934 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Phenomenal video well done ❤❤
@Gachablazer Жыл бұрын
Switching Luocha for Bailu for F2P... Playing 6 months, never spent a dollar on the game, no single copy of Bailu. I have already pulled Fu Xuan and even her signature light cone, this game gacha is rather broken (in the negative sense of course.) Yeah, have got E0 Natasha and E0 Lynx. Thanks for the tips at the end of the video.
@s.w.6260 Жыл бұрын
When u use dance dance dance, u move bronya action forward, but not jingliu, that ended up messing with the rotation, but who cares about rotation if the enemies are good as dead
@wolfVFV Жыл бұрын
16:40 Mandatory tingyun getting hit twice in a row comment
@celtictheknight Жыл бұрын
This is all fine and dandy but... I still don't have bronya to this day rip.
@FIFAFootballer14 Жыл бұрын
Could you possibly do a video regarding like "now you're level 65, what is the best use of trailblaze power to maximize the use" I'm actually level 69, but I don't do heavy research into the game. I just want something I can kind of visualize while I'm deciding between maxing traces, or light cones, or endless grinding relics etc. I appreciate the videos and all. o/