I Thought This Was Bullsh*t.... Then it Added an Inch to My Arms

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Alexander Bromley

Alexander Bromley

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@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
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@TomKwonDo
@TomKwonDo 8 ай бұрын
The real reason is clearly dad strength kicking in
@zerrodefex
@zerrodefex 8 ай бұрын
Curls and Zerchers are functional, after all you don't power clean a baby off the floor you sweep them up and hold them in your arms for a long time.
@leonkennedy9739
@leonkennedy9739 8 ай бұрын
As a dad I can confirm a child ads 1/2" to 1"
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
Hardest workout I've ever done is trying to open Mylicon and make a bottle with one hand, while the arm holding the baby is on literal fire
@TomKwonDo
@TomKwonDo 8 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley built in progressive overload as they grow up
@kevinbaker5630
@kevinbaker5630 8 ай бұрын
Next video is going to be about your newly massive calves
@Seb4asti4n
@Seb4asti4n 8 ай бұрын
I'm literally doing my master's thesis on Isokinetic strength training. I'm comparing isokinetic bench and curls with bench and curls with traditional weights.
@annelieseb6678
@annelieseb6678 8 ай бұрын
Can you discuss any early findings?
@MAbild7
@MAbild7 8 ай бұрын
Any preliminary results so far?
@Diarhehe
@Diarhehe 8 ай бұрын
Mark my words, I will be back somewhere down the line in a few month to ask for updates on your findings
@Seb4asti4n
@Seb4asti4n 8 ай бұрын
@@annelieseb6678 Probably in about a month or so.
@Seb4asti4n
@Seb4asti4n 8 ай бұрын
@@Diarhehe bet.
@titan-bloodedsovereign3519
@titan-bloodedsovereign3519 8 ай бұрын
The reason why your arms grew was most likely due to you inadvertently prioritizing them while cutting the volume for everything else. Increasing volume for your other bodyparts would likely grow them quicker but provide diminishing returns to your arm growth because your body can only recover from so much volume on a daily basis.
@theeternelyeboii6784
@theeternelyeboii6784 8 ай бұрын
Along similar lines, he probably gave alot more intent and enjoyed this training alot more which often happens in the situation you described above. You add on that this constant speed is simply more stimulus as your reaching beyond failure (arms respond especially well to alot of stress) and lastly that most of the excercises on this type of cable allow for a lengthened bias (relative to freeweight movements) - my guess is he hasnt done alot of cable arm work in the past besides pushdowns. Theres multiple competing explanations here and don't think there's much magic going on re effective reps, smoothness of the strength curve, or a lack of an eccentric, but will be interesting to see where any research goes on isokentic training in a more controlled setting.
@IvanM272
@IvanM272 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. Literally an specialization program, the type Mike Israetel advocates constantly on his channel for weak muscle groups to catch up to the rest of the body.
@amazin7006
@amazin7006 8 ай бұрын
He said he's done that before yet right now his biceps are biggest.
@mfgreviews5028
@mfgreviews5028 8 ай бұрын
Yeah lol
@wladdragwlya
@wladdragwlya 7 ай бұрын
LOL no to your recovery theory. Biceps is from evolution designed for men to grow fast and strong. I did biceps for a few years daily for between 15 and 20 sets and everyone called me after that "Arnold" because the size and shape of my arms. Biceps is recovering even if you do daily 30 sets. In time I also learned to use real weights now I can pullup with one arm from biceps (not using the back like most do on youtube) -like Alexey Voevoda did in the documentary Pulling John and biceps curl strict form my bodyweight.
@PullsPressesCarries
@PullsPressesCarries 8 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for someone legit to try one of these things they're very interesting for hypertrophy work PLEASE do keep us updated
@storiedstrength
@storiedstrength 8 ай бұрын
I get a lengthened partial watching Bromley do those hyperextensions, if you catch my drift
@user-dn4lg1dv5v
@user-dn4lg1dv5v 8 ай бұрын
Bromley, begging to be put in the "stretch position," huh 😂😂
@storiedstrength
@storiedstrength 8 ай бұрын
@@user-dn4lg1dv5v unabashedly
@jayanthsambaraju6562
@jayanthsambaraju6562 8 ай бұрын
My “stretch reflex” got stimulated
@user-dn4lg1dv5v
@user-dn4lg1dv5v 8 ай бұрын
@jayanthsambaraju6562 That's why it's called the stretch shortening cycle...
@jahmereyoung6000
@jahmereyoung6000 8 ай бұрын
Da fuq? Pretty clever though
@wearetheremnants1615
@wearetheremnants1615 8 ай бұрын
On a side note Google has memory holed a gigantic portion of the internet.. so it's not really a mine of information any longer . 2018 was where they cleansed everything
@GodisgudAQW
@GodisgudAQW 7 ай бұрын
Whoah really? Why 2018, and what kind of content?
@beantea5592
@beantea5592 4 ай бұрын
Seriously. It sucks now
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 8 ай бұрын
Strapping that thing to the barbell for benching, like at 11:30, was a great idea.
@Phalanx345
@Phalanx345 8 ай бұрын
He's right when he says 70s Powerlifter is a blood bath. I'm on week 5 and just got used to the volume during the base phase. The first lower day of each week has been murdering my quads. The second lower day has been awesome in strenghtening my posterier chain. The two upper days have been putting some good size on my shoulders and chest. I can't wait to get to peak phase and really test out how much stronger this program will help me get.
@IainCheyne
@IainCheyne 8 ай бұрын
sale price: $2,591.65
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
Yup. Not cheap. Only comparable thing I found was a flywheel which is similarly priced, has forced eccentric overload and 5% of the functionality.
@aurelius5837
@aurelius5837 8 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley did you buy that or did you get it by the compony for free?
@seanjohnston848
@seanjohnston848 8 ай бұрын
​​@aurelius5837 He got it for free well over a year ago if I recall. He did a review way back. I dont remember it being a glowing review though. I can see discovering new functionality being interesting and adding value, but obviously wouldn't be something the average "dedicated" home gym owner would buy. At least not as an initial buy. I think my brother's office gym has one.
@hjewkes
@hjewkes 8 ай бұрын
I first heard about isokinetics a few months ago when I saw the ARX machine on youtube. That motherfucker is 40k, so this is a steal lol
@wyattlightning6681
@wyattlightning6681 8 ай бұрын
​@@AlexanderBromleyThis was a decent advertisement though!
@biggee1509
@biggee1509 8 ай бұрын
I listened to a podcast where they were talking about flywheel training which sounds similar. Basically the resistance is set to maximally resist against the force you can exert, so that every rep feels like a going to failure rep. Sounds brutal.
@cx2900
@cx2900 8 ай бұрын
I've seen videos (not in person so haven't tried it myself) where some gyms have like pneumatic machines or something. like a chest press where the right handle has a button to increase the air pressure/resistance and the left handle has a button to decrease it, so you can basically do a dropset where every rep is like one set
@enl8ghtenmenttv476
@enl8ghtenmenttv476 8 ай бұрын
I would shadowbox,and would jab like Bruce Lee did,this would after 5to8 punches,cause muscle pain like no other lifting session ever...now writing this it seems this would only apply to my r8 arm,and not left,explanation would be...I go all in on my r8 arm as I have full control, but hold back out of fear of lack of control on my left,cuz else I'd literally just snap something...and I would, most likely...
@GWRus77
@GWRus77 7 ай бұрын
Can’t recall if it was mentioned in the video, but going to say this anyhow. The problem with these machines and the constant speed setting is the benefit will only come if the person using it treats every rep as a maximum effort rep. One can lazily do the constant speed rep and have very little resistance. This isn’t to discredit the machines ability to adapt and follow the natural strength curve through the rom, but it would be awesome if you could combine the speed setting with like a minimum effort setting to keep some tension like free weights do.
@osh241
@osh241 8 ай бұрын
North of 40 myself and I added some interesting mass using Dr.Mike iso technique. Hold 2sec in stretch, slow in the eccentric stage and work until near failure. (Knowing what failure is is key) Hurts loads but seen some easy gains in 3 months since using it on my accessory days.. Been working out for many years btw. 👌 Keep up the good content Alex 💪💪
@neckupfitness3274
@neckupfitness3274 8 ай бұрын
When I worked in the fitness industry many moons ago, we did have a line of equipment I got for my club that had consistent resistance along with negatives, etc.. It was from Lifefitness/Bally at the time. Bill Pearl was their spokesperson and came to the club to set my staff up on it. That was in the late 80's early 90's, so the technology was there even way back. Too bad it isn't more commercial in clubs now. Great video too! Thanks for sharing.
@maxmaximum-sh4bx
@maxmaximum-sh4bx 8 ай бұрын
It's probably the best Ad for this iso-kinetik machine!
@jef6438
@jef6438 6 ай бұрын
holy shit haha
@Mixer-1111
@Mixer-1111 8 ай бұрын
Always found kettlebell (ya, I know) cleans to be a very good bicep builder. Something about how turning the wrist out outwards while curling the arm in and pinning it, as well as absorbing it on the way down, seems to getting the bicep to work in a funny, holistic way. Probably explains why the kettlebell sport guys have serious arm considering their endurance athletes.
@FTCRW
@FTCRW 8 ай бұрын
I tried kettlebell curls recently, and they utterly humbled my dogshit DB-oriented form. Maybe the soviets were onto something there...
@ES1976-3
@ES1976-3 8 ай бұрын
11:47 is a really cool set up using the machine while benching!
@koleary1798
@koleary1798 8 ай бұрын
"My bicep was always just a different sort of lump" 😂😂
@thornfalk
@thornfalk 8 ай бұрын
This is the best ad for these machines and it's literally just you talking about how hypertrophy guys would be right if this is replicable and if they adjusted their theories.
@BoeserWolf1977
@BoeserWolf1977 8 ай бұрын
Interesting. Would be nice if you could give an update in ~6-12 month or so, to confirm if the growth was just due to a new stimulus or if this is something, adding consistently over the long run....
@halfnattyboomer354
@halfnattyboomer354 8 ай бұрын
Lately I've been trying very light preacher curls with an ez bar at the end of a biceps workout, I really sink into position putting most of my weight through my arm pits and fully extending my arms with extremely tight control at the bottom of the movement because the tension is immense and I don't want to rupture my distal biceps tendon. If elbow extension is impaired due to muscle tightness even doing this with the bar is intense and probably a good way to increase mobility provided the elbow joint isn't structurally blocked by bone formation. The elbows should be barely resting on the pad with almost no weight going through them. It's only a partial because as the forearms get close to vertical the tension on the muscle disappears, but its a very effective way of putting high tension under stretch on the biceps in a position where they don't usually get it.
@BBQDad463
@BBQDad463 7 ай бұрын
I concur in your respect for the distal biceps tendon. I completely ruptured my right DBT during a rafting trip in Montana. It took seven months to rehab after the surgery. Doctor said I was lucky that it ruptured very close to the insertion, did not tear in too frazzled a manner, and the remaining tendon was sufficiently stretchy that he could reattach it at the insertion point without the use of cadaver tendon (!). The rehab was sheer torture. I dedicated myself to it and ultimately recovered 100% range of motion. After eight years of careful work, I have recovered 70% of original strength. Doctor said I should not attempt to exceed 80% of original strength, else another rupture could occur, and would be non-repairable. Be careful. Good luck!
@davidstephenson3615
@davidstephenson3615 6 ай бұрын
Machines like this will give us a new generation of data and observations and that is awesome. Really look forward to seeing what we learn from this, what we discover, and what we can do. Unravel the mysteries of physiology.
@Matt45045
@Matt45045 3 ай бұрын
I remember Fred Hatfield talking about this in Power: A Scientific Approach. I can't remember what the machine was called that they used at the time though. I was always interested in this technique but there was no cheap and easy way to do it back then.
@marcus_ohreallyus
@marcus_ohreallyus 6 ай бұрын
Interesting points about the tension variations. At the beach where I live, there's a park that has a fitness area. They have these hydraulic powered pressing and pulling equipment that looks lame, but it gives you the greatest pump ever. As you press (for chest and shoulders) and then pull (for lats), the tension grows and grows until it feels almost impossible to complete the rep. But the great thing about it is you're exerting incredible force without having to worry about failing under a heavy barbell. When I use that thing all summer, my shoulders and chest look amazing. I would guess these hydraulics are not delivering constant speed...or maybe it is, and its the muscle fatiguing which makes it feel more difficult as the rep drags on. But either way its great.
@brotherlittlefoot2216
@brotherlittlefoot2216 6 ай бұрын
Resistance bands and isometrics can also give these results.
@abasicname8848
@abasicname8848 5 ай бұрын
Idk if thats magnetic cable resistance or fly wheel pulley. Either way, those types of technology of weight resistance is different to cables because sometimes cables have friction along a kind of sled or trolley thing where you can hear the sliding of metal along metal or theres no friction and you can hear well nothing because its quiet. Differences between smith machines, cables, and other machines. I think that probably what could be related to that specific tecunology, is something like the torque curves in different gears on a car. The resistance on it varies on different gears and its not all linear. With some mechanisms the mechanical tension is not efficiently designed, and thus theres dead zones where if too much momentum is generated you can get out of the pocket of being one with the weight and the mechanism/implement. With dumb cables, sometimes im not even sure if i feel the weight cus it doesnt feel like a raw weight. I dont even think that the strenfth curve is necessarily the issue. I think its just mechanical tension and potentially losing it for even a split second due to momentum, is what causes you to not use muscle otherwise. Probably what that unique style of cable resistance is teaching you, is how to strain under load without any use of excess momentum. But the other thing is theres also certain types of cable attachments that will swivel around your wrist a certain way and maybe thats giving you a better connection to the weight. Some people say they cant do lat pull downs or pull ups because they physically cannot force the adaptation in their brain to adapt, they just stop getting better or progressing, that theyre not skilled at the movement. The thing is the effort going into lifts, you can improve at something in real time based on how youre adapting your form. Maybe that cable resistance is allowing you for the first time to feel what its liek to not use copious momentum. And its probably because your extra body fat where youve always had more than you needed, often leaves a lot of undertrained muscles unconditioned and insensitive to training stimulus. The leverages it provides from having that layer of fat becuase you have poor conditioning in a muscle group makes it so that youre less susceptible in knowing how to pull with the muscle all the way through. And probably just ur stigma around it from before was still pushing you away from being more passionate about it to where youd eventually get put off just something that wasnt working out yet. You might not notice it because its subtle, but when people do curls, there are slight micro adjustments you have to do to allign yourself with the weight. Even with a fixed bar standing curl, there is a certain way that you contort the arms when the bar is still low to your hips and you're coming out of the bottom. You can literally get a stretch on the biceps during a standing curl. And a lot of guys who dont connect with this shit just dont have the natural sense to figure the little shit that people will mindlessly incorporate because it feels good or arbitrarily feels like the right thing to do. If the magnetic cable resistance works for u great. But you should definitely consider just doing barbell curls whether with ez bar or straight when you start to really build momentum in your arm training because if you can apply what youre learning from lifting on those cables to free weights, youll probably be able to apply it to more shit and stay off the overly fat body composition for the long run.
@jamesbernedo3204
@jamesbernedo3204 6 ай бұрын
I find it super interesting in the final point about eccentric work. I’m curious to see other people opinions on it cause im a big believer in abusing the eccentric in order to achieve muscle growth. So it kinda took me aback hearing him do the opposite of what I would likely do with the machine
@JRT140
@JRT140 8 ай бұрын
In the mid 90's I went to a gym that had some machines that used air pressure. It was the same as this plus the handles had switches on them to allow you to increase/decrease the air pressure during the reps. I really didn't notice any difference as compared to regular weights. I did however over trained on them a lot faster.
@brandonyoung4910
@brandonyoung4910 8 ай бұрын
Just ordered the family max. Hyped af thanks bro
@ponyboykurtis4645
@ponyboykurtis4645 8 ай бұрын
the ONLY TIME i experienced MASSIVE GROWTH of my arms was as an apprentice electrician pulling cable for several minutes at a time , enough to get massive arm /bicep pumps. SO it goes like this, sit down beside cable lean forward pull on cable while leaning back, similar to seated rows. this was a a time i was working out of town hundreds of miles from a gym, so my arms grew despite not working out , maybe 3 workouts a month in addition to pulling cables.
@gaberoo9099
@gaberoo9099 8 ай бұрын
That concentric only feature reminds me of the Torque tank sleds in which you push (or pull) but no eccentric component and thus I can recuperate faster using it as an accessory leg movement. Of course the basic model (the M1) is much more affordable at around $600-700. Yeah...really excited about this machine you shared with us.
@javig9346
@javig9346 6 ай бұрын
so you started to do isolation work with that computer pulley, 😆 guy just discovered the wheel lol
@mikea327
@mikea327 8 ай бұрын
Wait so how do I get same effect with free weights?
@jimmywood3924
@jimmywood3924 12 күн бұрын
By drop setting.
@rohanmeilor
@rohanmeilor 8 ай бұрын
When I was a kid, my parents had a DP rowing machine that used pneumatic resistance tubes instead of weights. Sounds very similar to what you're describing.
@zerrodefex
@zerrodefex 8 ай бұрын
I still use the one that my mom bought back when I was little.
@dajuicce379
@dajuicce379 7 ай бұрын
So in other words you did drop sets in slow tempo in the concentric motion. I'll try this for 6 weeks. Thanks coach 💪🏿
@overratedfool6900
@overratedfool6900 8 ай бұрын
A very entertaining comment section to read through lol. I'm definitely interested in hearing your thoughts on this again in a year or so.
@jakedrab4156
@jakedrab4156 8 ай бұрын
Dude, this is awesome it makes complete sense. Basically, everything in one.
@THE_ORGINAL_SILVERBACK
@THE_ORGINAL_SILVERBACK 13 күн бұрын
Ive been powerlifting for years and honestly other then dips or chins ive never worked out my arms in my life.
@kevinwicklund9593
@kevinwicklund9593 8 ай бұрын
Single leg squats with the constant speed setting looks amazing. You can push harder in the bottom stretched position
@sheepdog916
@sheepdog916 7 ай бұрын
The number one 1 to improve a body part, is to put it under tension outside of your allotted gym time, and program….unless you’re in the gym 3 hours/day with food.
@boywonderrr71
@boywonderrr71 7 ай бұрын
Im thinking that your able to max out each lift with the self adjustment feature. We are all taught to workout till failures. This does exactly that. Ive had issues with failure as one side is stronger and trying to get the proper weight for it.
@koleary1798
@koleary1798 8 ай бұрын
If these machines were like 500 euro id be tempted...I love me some elbow friendly arm work. But not a couple grand, which is what they were last time I checked. Maybe this niche will actually surpass the early adopter portion of the market before fizzling out and the price point will come down
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
I think there could be a smaller attachment that mimics some of these features, but I don't see this machine being sold for less. Rogue sells a single tower vertical pulley that uses free weights for 3300.... universal machines are generally expensive WITHOUT a computer automating resistance according to user feedback. Many here are citing ARX machines as an example of isokinetics and they go for freaking 40k.
@chasleichner5895
@chasleichner5895 7 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderBromleyHow close do you think you could get to approximating the curve with bands and chains or band and chain drop sets?
@TheLockon00
@TheLockon00 8 ай бұрын
I finally decided to get my ACE certification after all these years. Revisiting the textbook and just read a section where it talks about isokinetics.
@halbritt
@halbritt 8 ай бұрын
Will it do force curves other than isokinetic?
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
Yes, straight weight, accommodating resistance, and eccentric overload (in addition to isokinetic).
@TrevorFullbright
@TrevorFullbright 8 ай бұрын
The first machines id seen that does this is a machine company called ARX and they are pretty sweet. But those were commercial and almost impossible to find. im excited to see some residential options for this coming out and im real excited to see more options come. Id love to actually see some more research on this in the coming years. Ive thought for a lot of years it could actually be a big think in training for strength and size
@weximan1
@weximan1 8 ай бұрын
I hate when I loose strength,I had double hernia surgery last September and I took all the doctors advice,took 6 weeks off work,didn't train for 3 months and after Christmas started back into training properly and felt like I was going nowhere until,I took a week off after months training and my lifts have gone around up 10kg in everything so from now on il be taking a week off after every training cycle
@EvanZamir
@EvanZamir 8 ай бұрын
Check out the Beyond Power Voltra. I'm glad more of these machines are coming out now. Right now they are expensive AF, but the prices will come down as the early adopters buy them.
@itsoledan
@itsoledan 8 ай бұрын
*bromley gets sent tech gym gear* “you belong in living room for pregnancy workouts” *after realizing tech machine is badass*- “you belong in garage gym and will be in all workouts!!”
@gaberoo9099
@gaberoo9099 8 ай бұрын
Very cool concept. Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately, 2500 plus dollars is a bit too steep for me. Hopefully more affordable versions will be coming. Very cool.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I am surprised there aren't smaller attachments that can mimic the constant speed feature. But for everything this machine does, it's priced right. I mean, Rogue sells a single pulley tower that only adjusts vertically and uses free weights for 3300.
@gaberoo9099
@gaberoo9099 8 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley It's unique and there are other machines (the Rogue model you mentioned and that machine that LeBron James pushes...forget the name) that are more expensive, so yes, agree, priced right. Still, for some of us it will be a bit expensive. Hopefully, other makers catch on and competition will spur better prices and more models. I'll ask my health club chain to buy it...though I'm betting there will be a line to use it once people realize how good it is. Have you gotten any feedback from any friends who've also used it? Thanks!
@sonicrocks2007
@sonicrocks2007 8 ай бұрын
Wonder if you can combine it with another cable machine to get more weight
@Woodynik
@Woodynik 8 ай бұрын
I actually noticed I started breaking through plateaus when I went slow through the whole movement as well. Lifting like I’m lifting a car off a baby. Flexing every muscle in my body with proper form of course.
@StraitjacketFitness
@StraitjacketFitness 8 ай бұрын
Even every one of your sphincters?
@adamoreilly2489
@adamoreilly2489 8 ай бұрын
You have great content and info on ur channel. Can you do another video on bodyweight exercises and them incorporated in training?
@Ruger44Redhawk
@Ruger44Redhawk 7 ай бұрын
Are you related to Aaron of Gideon's Tactical? You look and sound you could be brothers. Anyway, this is awesome information. I never really follow any regimen at the gym. I just throw weights around and mix it up. I do always concentrate on the slow negative and form, never swinging my torso for heavy curls for instance. Keep a straight posture and feel that burn. Also, I always do drop sets to failure. Seems to work I guess. Trying to get back up to the 400 mark on bench press and I'm always around 212-218 body weight at 5'11".
@Devon_maloy
@Devon_maloy 8 ай бұрын
“Constant speed “ feature sounds like full ROM “overcoming isometrics” - where else could we get that at home without equipment?
@Ceedubious
@Ceedubious 5 ай бұрын
Many years ago (25ish) I read an article in a magazine about adding an inch to your arms in just 1 workout, but you'd lose it and more if you did it again within 30 days. I tried it a number of years later, and it worked! I doubted the warning and found out that it was true(-1.5" Rt &-1.25Lt). That was just dumbells/barbell for equipment.
@x0x0xxooxoxx11
@x0x0xxooxoxx11 8 ай бұрын
this whole video is an ad yall
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
Lol you're an idiot
@x0x0xxooxoxx11
@x0x0xxooxoxx11 8 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley might be true but i never told a lie
@jessejordan8116
@jessejordan8116 6 ай бұрын
Wow. Abusive when challenged.
@sonnyferrari8258
@sonnyferrari8258 4 ай бұрын
Stupid video. Don't recommend channel button.
@prototypestrong5092
@prototypestrong5092 8 ай бұрын
Louis simmons used to talk about an ISO kinetics machine that did wonders for the west side guys until it broke and they had to move on. He mentioned it a few times in passing on his podcasts.
@loungeroomlifting2223
@loungeroomlifting2223 8 ай бұрын
I hit 19-1/4" with a pump naturally by having only 1 all-out arm day a week. I learned that pushing bench/ohp/chinups/rows, etc, were a lot to add accessory work on the same day, so I gave bis,tris,and delts their own day. My arms ended up looking disproportionate, though😂 and my hands were numb every night lol
@Kosta-wd9dq
@Kosta-wd9dq 8 ай бұрын
I`m thinking of doing the same. My concern is that it would impact performance on the main lifts, for example heavy triceps work with something like skullcrushers fucking up my bench or OHP the next day. You had those problems or was it a no factor?
@loungeroomlifting2223
@loungeroomlifting2223 8 ай бұрын
@Kosta-wd9dq I just made sure that the work I did was recoverable and never performed within 2 days of main movements, though this was when i only SBD twice a week max. Now i bench up to 5x and squat and dead up to 3x so alot harder. As with everything, though, it's easy to stack on volume with accessory work and not realise the fatigue accumulated. So planning high % mains work with low % accessories is imperative. I just got covid pretty bad and have started arm and leg accessories again for GPP purposes, so I won't go all out, just rpe7-8 (2-3 RIR) and slowly increase the intensity and volume until I can feel it being difficult and then "walk the line."
@Kosta-wd9dq
@Kosta-wd9dq 8 ай бұрын
@@loungeroomlifting2223 Got it, thanks for the info!
@KristianGerard
@KristianGerard 8 ай бұрын
5:29 this makes sense and consistent with my experience…
@sairam71
@sairam71 8 ай бұрын
so basically do you just replace your regular exercises like lets say a cable curl with just the isokinetic version? all sets? curious how one would integrate it into a routine.
@MelFinehout
@MelFinehout 8 ай бұрын
I used to push a portable stage across carpet in a ballroom. We were supposed to do this with 2-3 guys but for “fun” I would push it alone. With small wheels and thick-ish carpet, you can simply NOT get momentum. I did this for a couple years, 2-10 times a week. Holy SHIT my legs were huge and strong. In fact, since then my legs have always been disproportionately bigger. Seems like a similar stimulus.
@TheOlsonOutfit
@TheOlsonOutfit 7 ай бұрын
I suspect there is a great deal of optimization to be gained with computer controlled resistance. I bet in 15 years most gyms have equipment like that.
@cliffonator1111
@cliffonator1111 8 ай бұрын
I've read that slow negatives help muscle growth. Does it turn out that the concentric portion is more important?
@deathspank9573
@deathspank9573 6 ай бұрын
Maybe its not the constant rep speeds, maybe its because you have constant tension over the full range of movement from the cable as opposed to free weights. If you are using a barbell for curls, there is little tension at the top and bottom of the movements. But a cable, especially one that is adjusting for rep speed, allows for tension to be maintained over a wider range of motion. I always found that hooking my EZ Curl bar up to a pulley system (by using a D Shackle in the centre of the bar to provide an attachment point for the cable) gave me insane pumps as opposed to using free weights for barbell curls. Far superior in my opinion to a free weight barbell curl
@midnightflyer7510
@midnightflyer7510 8 ай бұрын
Really interesting! Deemphasizing eccentric flies in the face of the Dr Mikes of the industry but is really intriguing! I always felt slower negatives overtrained my biceps specifically so I could see that in that muscle group in myself. Would love to have access to this technology to test your theory. My biceps have always lagged and is the most frustrating thing in my 35 years of bodybuilding training!😊
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
I'm not in favor of eliminating them altogether, but there's precedent for adding more volume with concentric-only work because it affects recovery less. example. Style sled work for gpp is an examplr.
@lachlanzrim4313
@lachlanzrim4313 8 ай бұрын
I have got more response in my legs from one year using cam varied oldschool Nautilus machines then 15 years of squats, deadlifts, hack squats and 45° leg presses. I have paid good money for trainers to put my legs through the ringer also. Variable resistance and accomodating strength curves works
@brianbland4837
@brianbland4837 8 ай бұрын
I don’t mean this to be rude but this really seems like a sales pitch video. Did they really send you this to have you provide a review and it turned to be something you’d really recommend?
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
I mean, it's a universal cable machine that can sit in a rack and attach to the bar. I train exclusively at home, so yeah, I use the shit out it. If Dave Tate sold this exact thing and slapped EliteFTS on it, the same people pissed in the comments would be taking out loans to get it. My recommendation isn't "isokinetics are so cool you HAVE to get this!". I recommend if A.) you like spending money on your home gym and want to try this feature (your only options are this or ARX at $40k a pop) or B.) you are already in the market for a universal cable machine and see the value of these features as being worth a small upgrade (good universal machines that just use freeweights aren't cheap regardless).
@TheSacredOrderOfKnightlyValor
@TheSacredOrderOfKnightlyValor 8 ай бұрын
After all these years of producing high-quality free content, I won't begrudge Bromley gives an occasional truth-based endorsement.
@johnbmw550i
@johnbmw550i 7 ай бұрын
What is all that piled up rubbish in the room.............LOL
@Thatn55
@Thatn55 8 ай бұрын
My arms used to just be a lot as well. It was so unaesthetic and now they have shape and definition.
@wyattlightning6681
@wyattlightning6681 8 ай бұрын
So after years of not focusing on your arms, you've finally started putting focus into them and they're growing. You could've just dine db curls and other regular stuff and gotten the same results
@brandonframe7159
@brandonframe7159 8 ай бұрын
This video is dead on. I've found very similar results using the tonal using their burnout mode. I noticed capping every set with a burnout my muscles grew much faster. Then it's just a matter of riding that line shy of muscle failure and rep it out as long as you can.
@EnigmaticAnamoly
@EnigmaticAnamoly 8 ай бұрын
Glad its only a quarter hour long. First attempt @ watching, everything went right over my head 😂 Here goes attempt #2 😀
@jayrharris21
@jayrharris21 8 ай бұрын
I feel exactly what you’re talking about with the no man’s land. I think I look better at 255 and 260 than I do at 240. 235 to 240 is a rough weight for me. My legs look good, but I hit a weird skinny fat stage everywhere else.
@ramie-uz9xi
@ramie-uz9xi 8 ай бұрын
😂 welcome to the club bro 😂 . I’m 56 . I use elastic bands , a total gym (Chuck Norris ) . Sounds to me that you’re finally figuring out the mind muscle connection. I work off shore on a tug boat . Weights are not exactly ideal out here . I focus on pulling slow on those bands , I focus on how hard I flex during the top of the rep and hold it briefly till it starts to burn and then even (bounce) it a little . Stop counting!! STOP THAT SHIX !!! Focus on how it feels . I’m 56 , 18” arms 230 pounds maybe 21-22 BMI ?? Probably more like 25😂 I have a full gym at home and I swear other than the leg work I get fire ass pumps with those bands and slow controlled pushups . Generally between 100 -150 pushups divided into 20-30 reps per set . The total gym is on market place . Any where between $35 -to $200 for a really nice used model . Those bands are about $20. The bands and total gym won’t supplement a complete gym but will definitely provide a man with a lot more options . On a budget .
@SprSonik13
@SprSonik13 5 ай бұрын
how tall are you to have a BMI of even 25 at 230 pounds? I’m 210 pounds at 5’10” with 17 inch arms. My BMI is 30. If you are almost 7’ tall (about where you’d have to be to have low 20 BMI at 230 pounds) 18 inch arms are no big deal 😎
@ellisback6519
@ellisback6519 7 ай бұрын
Honestly super interesting. I want more people to talk about it
@NattyLegend1
@NattyLegend1 8 ай бұрын
I kept waiting for him to say 8 hour arm workout, split into 16 mini workouts
@ModernTimePaladin
@ModernTimePaladin 28 күн бұрын
And change his name to Rich
@briefcasemanx
@briefcasemanx 4 ай бұрын
I want to hear more about what you've been up to with this
@rustamstolkin4083
@rustamstolkin4083 7 ай бұрын
I believe isokinetic machines (looking a bit like a weird Smith machine) were used by some powerlifters in 1970s - possibly was a Russian thing - but I think some were in USA also... I think Ed Coan experimented with them also (?)
@LouisSerieusement
@LouisSerieusement 8 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your honesty 👌
@ABD5667
@ABD5667 7 ай бұрын
That machine sounds awesome, all sorts of interesting modes, sounds great for those who workout alone to help get the benefits of having a gym partner
@joes973
@joes973 3 ай бұрын
I built one of these. I put a motor on the back of a bowflex. It works.
@nmnate
@nmnate 8 ай бұрын
I've never loved heavy straight barbell curls, usually end up with some tendonitis if I go too heavy on them. Ez bars have been more tolerable. For heavy curls I resort to DB alternating hammer curls. Hoping to hit some freakish weights at some point (confuse all the other gym bros). I regularly do 5s or triples while warming up for weighted chins. 🙃 Would love to have some of those eccentric overload features become more common. Back in the day we'd have a little 'tug of war' at the machine preacher station... y'know with all the care in the world so we don't rip our arms apart. Good ol' isometric tug of war followed by a forced eccentric. DOMS? Yeah... 💪 Isokinetic is pretty cool because there's probably a number involved and I bet I can figure out a way to get that bigger with more effort. That's like candy for meatheads like me 🤣
@toysfan9072
@toysfan9072 8 ай бұрын
The end of the peaking era for the Bromley channel
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
Oh bro, the peak hasn't even STARTED yet!
@inthenickoftime__
@inthenickoftime__ 8 ай бұрын
How heavy does it go? Enough for lat pull downs?
@taiiiz3969
@taiiiz3969 7 ай бұрын
220
@tomlucasrccrawlers9108
@tomlucasrccrawlers9108 8 ай бұрын
How well is the negative part of that weird machine? Oh, ok..you just mentioned there's no negative. Excuse me if I'm wrong, curious if you damage the left bicep in past?
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
There's a negative on regular settings. Just the constant speed has no negative. Its smooth... does a weirdly good job of adjusting to each limb. Yes I did, ruptured doing tire flips some 6 or 7 years ago
@fortressofswolitude
@fortressofswolitude 8 ай бұрын
This is very interesting. I would love a follow up.
@carps_gym
@carps_gym 8 ай бұрын
This is interesting. Looks much better than something like a Tonal
@grounded7362
@grounded7362 7 ай бұрын
Speediance certainly isn't designed for the average working man looking to get in shape and strengthen due to the price. The price point is impossible for most looking to buy it.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 7 ай бұрын
Do a bit of research on home gym universal machines. It's smack dab in the middle of normal for selectorized machines. Given it's functionality, it's cheap. Median US income is 60k. This is absolutely an easy credit card purchase for the average home gym enthusiast. (Not suggesting thats a good move, just commenting on American spending habits)
@grounded7362
@grounded7362 7 ай бұрын
Nearly ALL purchases are easy credit card purchases and American spending habits don't mean something is affordable or within the budget of most men or women looking to get back in shape and strengthen. I have an acceptable income and there is no way I could justify spending that much on this machine.
@modofatak
@modofatak 8 ай бұрын
Isometric bicep work with the baby holds
@chrisschutze2315
@chrisschutze2315 8 ай бұрын
I checked out your Base AI app. It looks pretty cool, but there are only 3 power lifting programs in there. If you add a solid hypertrophy program I will probably subscribe.
@HenchPig
@HenchPig 8 ай бұрын
Hey Alex I know it’s not something you have spoken about much and unsure if you even have an interest in it but please please make a video with programming recommendations for combat athletes with a possible example program!?
@olindblo
@olindblo 8 ай бұрын
Sika Strength has some stellar videos on that (and paid programs specifically for combat athletes too)
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
I might get to that but I'd have to do a little investigation first. Programming for generic sports is something I'm comfortable with but the specific type of beat-down combat athletes take probably requires some special considerations for recovery.
@HenchPig
@HenchPig 8 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley That sounds amazing ! Thanks Alex
@GYMETRIUS
@GYMETRIUS 8 ай бұрын
Congrats on the arms growth! Were your arms 17&1/4 pumped before, or cold? Just checking because if it was a cold measurement before and pumped after, 1 inch wouldn’t be accurate. I love the concept behind the equipment you’re talking about. I’ll definitely have to listen again to make sure I’m really understanding. This reminds me of the way Jason Gallant trains constant tension, except with new age tech and no need to do partial. Would you gander that the next best thing to recruit (and keep recruited) maximum motor units through a set could be a shortened range of motion where the muscle is under the most tension?
@KettmanAquatic
@KettmanAquatic 8 ай бұрын
Why would 1 inch not be accurate
@GYMETRIUS
@GYMETRIUS 8 ай бұрын
@@KettmanAquatic arms are much bigger when pumped up. I could gain an inch on my arms in 30min but it doesn’t last or mean I gained anything
@Horus-Lupercal
@Horus-Lupercal 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like time under tension/cadence work?
@CruelEvisceration
@CruelEvisceration 8 ай бұрын
The "all you bro" setting
@Danielsalazar-31
@Danielsalazar-31 8 ай бұрын
Hey Alex, would you mind updating us on your Vyvanse experience and if you’re still taking it/ how many mg?
@lionheart93
@lionheart93 8 ай бұрын
From. It working them out to crushing them makes sense on to why they grew. Powerlifting to bodybuilding
@Leispada
@Leispada 8 ай бұрын
you're a pretty good speaker
@vids595
@vids595 8 ай бұрын
I hate when people say "we" got pregnant.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley 8 ай бұрын
Weird
@CapitalismSuxx
@CapitalismSuxx 8 ай бұрын
Usually there are two people involved so what's your gripe?
@Mr.lifta13
@Mr.lifta13 8 ай бұрын
Legit it makes it sound like they both got inseminated lmfao
@randyshaw81
@randyshaw81 5 ай бұрын
🤣 when you getting a bag you can say whatever you want when it’s teamwork with your wife.
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