I, Tonya - Official Movie Review

[@climbinguphill]

Sebastian Stan is criminally underrated in this film.

[@CatLives9]

I highly disagree with Christy on the musical queues. I loved the soundtrack to this film and the music choices were spot on.

[@randowando9446]

I agree! I absolutely loved the score it matched the feel so well. I played devil woman today lol

[@JC-li8kk]

Better than La La Land? Jk...looking forward to watching it, but Tar is on my buy list next.

[@I.pray.to.George.Carlin]

Yessssss the soundtrack was superb for this movie 💯

[@alreadythen1]

When I was a teen I thought the punishment was so harsh, they could have put Tonya on 5yrs suspension.

[@pickinboogers4u]

A perfect opportunity missed to use figure skating score cards for the everyone's ratings.

[@BobSullivanAKABuffy]

They're probably old school skating judges with the 6.0 scale.

[@amandamorse8760]

Lol. Yes!

[@fromthehaven94]

pickinboogers4u 9/10, Bobby Cannavale as the tabloid reporter was good, but not as integral to the story.

[@RaymondHng]

Cannavale's scenes probably took one or two days to shoot. He was just sitting in a chair the whole time talking.

[@RaymondHng]

It would have been cute if the reviewer were to hold up cards with 5.8 or 5.9. The thought never occurred to them.

[@cocktailcinema2690]

Just saw this. Powerful film that redefined this story that has been around for so long. Janney is brilliant as is Robbie and Stan.

[@TheFadingMan]

I saw this movie and it’s easily one of the best movies of the year.

[@slyjokerg]

Talk about THIS movie. Don't talk about someone's performance in some other movie. I don't care if you are impressed by Margot Robbie in some other film when you are supposed to be reviewing THIS movie.

[@Garland67]

This movie might just redeem Tonya Hardings life to an extent.

[@squamish4244]

Time is also on her side. When I first heard of the movie, I couldn't remember for sure who had whacked whose knee :D

[@vivienlee6763]

That's how far they can actually do for Tonya Harding. She's basically the Vanilla Ice of the skating world.

[@squamish4244]

Well, the publicity must have made her some $$$ and however they acquired the rights may have as well...

[@siddharthnaagar7028]

Allison Janney is fucking brilliant and deserves the Oscar 👍👍👍 she stole the show without any doubt

[@taroman7100]

hardly a stretch for Janney alright burned out on her in mom

[@Andre-tu3km]

The music choices fit the tone of the film, it's all very wink wink and tongue in cheek, so the soundtrack is consistent with that.

[@margaretcampbell2681]

Let’s face it Margot Robbie was great, why do you ignore it

[@slyjokerg]

I didn't at all have a problem with the song choices. I think that is silly criticism. For instance, what were they supposed to play instead of _Barracuda_ there, _Walkin'_ _On_ _Sunshine_ ?

[@vivienlee6763]

In skating, there's Midori Ito right before her in the 1988 Calgary games who landed the triple axel in competition. After Tonya, there's Mao Asada who was very graceful, very tiny, very flexible, landed the triple axel, triple toe combination in the 2005 World Junior Championship. The same competition that Yuna Kim was in. After them, there were only a handful of skaters who landed the triple axel in competition. Tonya wasn't that great skating-wise. What was interesting was the story because for the first time, realism is shown in this movie about figure skating. There are rich people in the skating world, but many are ordinary, what's extraordinary is her extremely hard and unfortunate background leading to her meeting the wrong person who makes the wrong friend. In the past, Hollywood portrayed figure skating very wrongly, as a result non-skaters treated skating like it's easy, like it's a farce. Don't get me wrong, many skaters do like Blades of Glory (I personally don't), it just adds to the fact that this parody about the skating world causes people to even not take the sport of figure skating seriously. I, Tonya, however showed skating in a very real light. It shows exactly what it really takes to actually succeed in figure skating. And this movie shows how hard it really is to be in competitive figure skating. In reality, there were a lot of moms that were like Allison Jennings' character. Heck, in the NCCP course, one thing we went over is when you see a parent being abusive to their child what do we do? I mean now, since we seen these things too much, we already know to call the authorities. Well of course many parents aren't that extreme like LeVona Harding. But abuse and resentment do happen. Skaters do act up or get angry when they have a bad practice. Jeff Gillooly demonstrates why no one dates when they compete, and even if they do, you really don't see them date outside the skating world. Outsiders just don't understand a skater's world. They are fun, but they won't get the things we do or the sacrifices that we make. There are many stories of others either quitting skating as soon as they meet someone outside the rink or becoming rebellious after meeting someone because of the fun of dating and the extreme pressure and control they had before they met someone at school. Moms and coaches do control a lot of skater's lives. When skaters pick an outsider, it's usually someone the complete opposite, like a bad boy. And never ends well. I find Tonya's coach a little refrained, which is the right portrayal. Many coaches are like that, but at the same time, some coaches....you can hear them yelling across the rink. Some coaches would yell while the skater is in the middle of their program during practice. So skating isn't quite that dainty, it's actually pretty rough and pretty hard. One thing you'll hear from many elite athletes is skating is hard, we just make it look easy for you to see. I think I, Tonya makes a pretty real portrayal of the world of figure skating and a pretty close portrayal to the source material. One thing I, Tonya forgot to mention is skaters move from place to place all the time for practice. Many national level skaters skate at several different rinks, and cross train with many sports specialist. And her life after she moved out is very real with many amateur athletes in our world. Sewing costumes, working several different jobs, and working minimal wage after competitive life wasn't successful. THAT'S pretty real (well nowadays there's of course some who opt to skate and school at the same time like Michelle Kwan which is a much smart path....). She's not an exception in the skating world, her dysfunctional family is and her boyfriend and Shawn Eckhardt is. But everything else, pretty realistic of the skating world.

[@lsrasr158]

Vivien Lee i enjoyed reading your very informative commentary. One comment about your opening sentence about Midori. Are you saying Midori landed the 1st triple axel at the 88 Calgary Olympics? Midori did not attempt a 3A at Calgary. She did the very 1st ladies 3A in international competition at the 1988 NHK.

[@nitsugazemag]

While I loved the movie, I wasn't irked by the song choices AT ALL. However, the CGI took me out of the movie every time when it was extremely obvious that they pasted the head of someone else onto an ice skater. The uncanny valley just thrusted into the foreground. What I feel would have done it for me would have been more closeups cut with wider, possibly, audience seat shots than the ambition of moving up close and far without the cuts. I admire the photographer's ambition to get on the ice with the actresses, but if you can't make it into a seamless shot matching photography, it's best to try it on another movie that has a bigger timespan to work it in post. Other than that, it's really great. Solid work from the cast, intriguing direction, and great traditional editing. I think the songs used in the movie were great because it added that extra oomph and energy to the film coupling with it being a specific time (range) piece.

[@Verbsdescribeus]

Sebastian Stan is amazing in this movie :) He makes an unlikable character likable :)

[@RaymondHng]

Katerina Witt's most difficult jump was the triple loop which is ranked lower than a triple Axel. She was able get her Olympic eligibility status reinstated for the 1994 Winter Olympic Games and placed 7th over Harding's 8th.

[@Ricky0101]

From 1988 to 1992 two women changed ladies figure skating on the world stage. One was Midori Ito and the other was Tonya Harding.

[@lsrasr158]

Rick Francis, excellent comment. Actually Midori started it by landing the 1st triple axel by a woman in 1988 at the NHK. When Midori skated her 1989 worlds exhibition skate, Scott Hamilton said at the end of her skate "witnessing the birth of a new age in figure skating". Tonya helped to push the change forward by being the 1st american lady and 2nd lady overall to land the triple axel in competition in 1991 at US nationals. Their athleticism is unequaled even today oct 3 2018.

[@Yahziboy]

I disagree with Christy Lemire on the subject of the music -- I liked it. It'd been a long time since I'd heard some of those songs and I enjoyed them again. Didn't feel anyone was telling me to feel a certain way. I just liked the songs . . . wished I'd written some of them . . . or at least helped with the melodies. I started to like Tonya when I saw her on that TV show World's Dumbest. She's likeable. Also, she paid a dear price for picking such a loser to fall in love with. I am sad she can't ever even coach skating. She obviously loved the sport.

[@richardray5805]

This should have won best picture at the Oscars. Far, far better than "The Shape of Water". "I, Tonya" is the "Goodfellas" of skating moves, probably even of all sports movies. (Oops, one of the reviews just mentioned "Goodfellas". Glad I'm not the only one who noted the comparison.)

[@jermeyg3774]

Hopefully they give tonya Harding some money so she won’t have to do “celebrity” boxing

[@herbzzz]

Jermey G hahahah i was thinking that same thing 😂😂

[@WildwoodClaire1]

I believe that she does landscaping, carpentry, and a number of other things these days.

[@taylorduce]

Too late, she already had a porn leak

[@RaymondHng]

Harding has not boxed in over thirteen years due to her asthma.

[@FlickSuicide]

I was 20 when this happened, always thought Tonya got a very raw deal!

[@umarbajwa101]

I agree with Christie about the music, certain tracks have been so overused this decade and this movie uses so many of them that it broke the camel's back for me. Hollywood seriously needs an industry-wide agreement to retire these trope songs forever and update the library.

[@TMMx]

When is the Lorena Bobbitt movie being made?

[@whoknew2273]

lol wince inducing

[@hethrham123]

It's still on The Cutting Room floor

[@randomfools808]

My only real issue is they should have gotten someone else to play Tonya and Jeff when they were 15. Margott should have shown up after high school because she just looks like an adult with braces. As someone who saw a lot of Tonya after this incident as a guest panelist on TruTVs The Smoking Gun, Robbie nails a lot of her mannerisms down. Especially in the present. The song choices didn't bother me as much due to the many tones the film manages to juggle. Thought The Chain was used a lot more appropriately here than in Guardians Vol. 2. Wasn't expecting this to have as much depth and comedy then it has. And definitely wasn't expecting all the heart breaking domestic violence. Seems to be the year of redemption for two big punching bags. I would rate this right around the same as The Disaster Artist.

[@janettewong9900]

Randomfools absolutely agree on finding more age appropriate actor/actress for the teen years. IIRC Robbie was 26 when it was filmed and Tonya was 23 during the incident so that would have been fine. Tonya was never a skinny girl either and I thought the comment on her pear shape was laughable given that Harding’s about 5’1” and always had powerful thighs and Robbie is tall and willowy. The very short skirt parts of the costumes that Harding wore to lengthen her legs make Robbie look even taller and skinnier.

[@mtcampos1960]

This movie was awesome! The acting was phenomenal as was the soundtrack. You can't make this story up.

[@megamoviez]

Margot Robbie is a locke for best actress and Allison Janey will win supporting actress

[@anndrezzz4483]

This reminds me The Fighter with Mark Walberg and Christian bale but I’m still invested cause of the performance I’m glad this turned out great Review

[@pudchaa]

Juanscum381 wait I’m confused, why would it reminding u of the fighter be a bad thing? The fighter was so good!

[@tyler3196]

"Tonya Harding, in case you hasn't remembered or hadn't thought of her" oh Christy bless you heart, I was born in 1996.

[@janawarren1430]

I agree wholeheartedly with you. My prejudices prior to this movie, my guilt, Sebastian Stans' chameleon-like portrayals...I didn't recognize him in this, or The Bronze (after seeing him in The Martian), This was a fantastic movie, beautifully done. So glad to hear your comments. I too have been thinking about this movie ever since I saw it (and I'm seeing it again with a friend this week).

[@FlickSuicide]

It was actually "Devil Woman" playing when we met her mom lol.

[@squamish4244]

I thought the over-the-top music was a good idea for the film. It helped heighten the drama and set it firmly in time and place - working-class America in the 1970s - early 90s.

[@robcochran6235]

At 10:00, Christy Lemire if you're going to criticize the musical choices made by the director, get your facts correct. It's not BARRACUDA by Heart that introduces Tonya's mother, it's DEVIL WOMAN by Cliff Richards

[@RaymondHng]

Where in the film was "Barracuda" played?

[@ExciteHike]

Midori Ito was the first woman to land the triple axel in competition, fyi. Not a fan of the fact that this film basically takes Tonya at her word that she wasn't involved with the assault in any way.

[@sergiovela7686]

It clearly says first in the US And this movie was about Tonya and the story she wants to tell, why would anyone think of themselves as the villain? Of course we are all innocents in our minds

[@ExciteHike]

sergio vela I stand corrected on the "US" part - they do say it in the movie. Guess after hearing a lot of people thinking she was the first woman to do it after seeing this, I thought the movie had it wrong. But nope, I'm wrong. Disagree on your second point though - the movie itself states it's based on interviews from multiple people, not just Tonya's. The movie also states they're often contradictory... but it's still essentially a single narrative with storytelling choices decided by the filmmakers. For example, they clearly point out there is uncertainty in the _extent_ of the abuse with Tonya's relationships with her mother and husband (which I appreciated), but they clearly want us to know there WAS abuse. With "the incident", they clearly want us to know it's uncertain the extent to which her husband knew. But not once do they even question if Tonya knew or not. Throughout the film characters call out each other's BS or say "no, this actually happened". But not once here - no FBI investigator chimes in, not even Bobby Cannavale's character, who seems perfectly setup for this. They want you, the audience, to sympathize with her. This is a narrative choice. It feels like they chickened out, but that's just me. I actually don't hate I, Tonya; I thought Margot Robbie in particular was great.

[@ExciteHike]

Cas Saucedo I agree we don't know what really happened, but neither do the filmmakers, which is kinda my point. They still needed to decide what to include in the movie & what not to. Them choosing not to cast Tonya's involvement in doubt was a decision. "everyone has their own truth" for me is too big of a leap to say that's the theme of the film. Each of the main characters have selfish reasons to not present the full truth, which I think is why they have the 'uncertainty' scenes. But the main points of the film are to 1) hold the audience accountable (and tabloids, and media in general) as voyeurs who sensationalize and exploit Tonya's life for entertainment, and 2) feeling sympathy for her. I agree, I think the abuse stuff and figure skating association snob stuff is probably true, but it also feeds into the feeling sympathy point I think they're trying to make (which is also why I think they don't question Tonya's involvement in "the incident"). But that's all just my take, I respect everyone's opinions.

[@christinaacosta6594]

Ok, as an ex figure skater, who suffers from asthma as well, I had nothing but respect for tonya. I always felt she needed to work on her artistry. However, what an athlete. So difficult to reach that level with little support, finicial limitations and physical ailments. Before Nancy's misfortune, if you watch old clips of her skating, you'll realize she lacked passion. It was as if she was obligated to skate living out her legally blind mom's dreams. Next, because of this incident, Nancy became one of the Only highest paid Olympic skaters in history! Plus, as a silver medalist! We don't know if she would had even made the 1994 team had it not been for the incident. She had a tendency for cracking under the pressure and falling. Just watch her previous Olympic debut in France. She's not the best and never was. This sad and terrible incident made people pay attention to a sport, they would normally never care for and made Nancy a house hold name. In honesty? She can almost thank Tanya's ex husband. As odd as that might seem, look up the salaries of All the other previous skaters before and after her. She's made it on the Red carpet, given designer dresses, and the "Gold" treatment after. At a time the Internet was but a mare baby, social media was not even a hatched idea, and This was the News! This was the real time soap opera played on everyone's tube.

[@TheFadingMan]

swidly your wrong, they said 1st U.S. woman in movie.

[@iutopian9322]

Sufjan Stevens, anybody?

[@walterwhite7438]

Great song!

[@menevetsny]

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[@kevlow9494]

iUtopian Amazing song!! Incredible artist

[@ColinJoseph5154]

The only reason I'm here.

[@racheljersey8247]

Margot Robbie Killed this Movie!!!!! They said she was “too pretty” for the Role?! LOOK at wtf they did too Charlize Therion in MONSTER!!! Are you kidding me??? Margot was incredible, her talking, her acting, she even produced it. Go girl go!!! 🙏♥️😍❤️

[@NordeastMarie]

What is with the 70's music in the clip?

[@erniebuchinski3614]

I don't know which makes me "prouder": when I tell people here in my adopted city of Helsinki, Finland that back in my hometown of Portland, Oregon I went to the same high school as Tonya Harding (David Douglas), or when I tell them that I attended the same college as Monica Lewinsky (Lewis & Clark College). It's a pretty tough call . . . ;-)

[@savagesinema]

Loving these roundtable reviews. Agree totally with your I, TONYA perspectives.

[@PhantasmagoricSplend]

This was amazing. I think Janney should get the Oscar by far!

[@LifeUntilLove]

I'm not sure where the got the idea that only four women have ever been able to do the triple axel. 8 women have done it in international competitions, with Midori Ito being the first women to do it in 1988. Still not a lot, but more than four.

[@axreason]

wow, i'm legitimately surprised. can't wait to watch it now.

[@freegadflyathome]

I just watched this and loved it. It kind of reminded me of The Big Short with the editing and breaking of fourth wall.

[@adagiobreeze8493]

Margo Robbie smelt that Oscar from a mile away

[@taroman7100]

stupidest casting ever

[@El_oh7199]

No way she gets an Oscar for this

[@michelleecker9503]

I want to watch this movie but it’s not showing anywhere near me!🙁

[@rabone2207]

Great movie an it shows her difficulties in life an skating. She was the best!!!

[@CitizenDevi]

By the way, next year is Jake Gyllenhaal's fucking year! He's got an insane amount of amazing movies that are so promising coming up and is working with amazing directors. He'll also be in one movie with Cumberbatch. Looking forward especially to what he's doing in the Netflix exclusive with Nightcrawler writer and director Dan Gilroy! I'm so damn hyped.

[@reidb18]

Where can I watch this online?

[@brianwalendy3735]

5.9 for this movie. They brought a new take to the old incident, and presented it with a witty, 4th wall breaking killer of a film with an even better soundtrack.

[@tomanderson8094]

Can we get a kickstarter going to buy Christy a real cup?

[@happygayconservative9403]

A movie about Tonya Harding? Who'd a thunk? Seriously, glad Tonya is getting her due.

[@johananprime4692]

How did this get snubbed for best picturrree?

[@dancota1819]

Love your music point, Christy, but Didn't Barracuda play when Tanya was getting back into shape for the Olympics?

[@genopacino]

Matt's attempts at jokes are always so sad. And there's usually a look in his eyes that conveys, "This is really gonna land." But it almost never does. Makes me feel bad for him.

[@KainErrow]

Our A-team, it's great to see you guys.

[@mladenkulic446]

I Tonya,I Robot and I Frankenstein.

[@slyjokerg]

I, don't care for your attempted joke.

[@PHlophe]

Mladic, you haven't watched either

[@freebee8221]

I,(would bone)margot robbie

[@thenerdyblackgirljournal8850]

So according to the logic here, anybody who makes a crappy movie and drops a ton of money on it deserves sympathy from the public? Why would Tommy Wiseau deserve as much sympathy as Tonya Harding? There are many people in the world who invest in their dream and put their heart and soul in to it. Some are way more talented than Tommy, but just don't have the budget to get the notoriety like he did. I love the whole 'The Room' phenomenon and I really loved 'The Disaster Artist', but seriously, why would Tommy deserve as much sympathy as Tonya Harding?

[@edgeninja]

Fantastic movie! I couldn't get over how completely TERRIBLE Tonya's mother was. Absolutely the worst kind of abusive stage mom trying to live vicariously through her daughter in the most vicious and cold-hearted way possible. The only problem I had with this movie is that it assumes Tonya Harding was ignorant of the attack when past interviews and evidence have indicated she was involved or at least had knowledge before or after the fact.

[@WildwoodClaire1]

I'm of to minds about this movie. It can't seem to decide whether to be sympathetic to Tonya because of her near-Dickensian upbringing, socio-economic distress, and class prejudice she faced, or condescending as Hell. Nor can it quite decide whether it's a comedy or not. On a side note, I noticed that "I, Tonya" changes the music Tonya used in her Olympic performances. She actually used the theme from "Jurassic Park," as I recall. Perhaps the makers of this film could not get permission to use it.

[@RaymondHng]

An anachronism in the film was when Tonya's former coach returned to her after the 1992 Winter Olympic Games to inform her that it was just announced that the next Winter Olympic Games will take place two years later when, in fact, the decision was made back in 1988.

[@freebee8221]

Harley quinn on skates, nice

[@owiseone1]

Getting tired of these slow roll out movies. Finally got to see Disaster Artist tonight. I, Tonya isn't playing here in Vegas yet.

[@RaymondHng]

It's screening in six theaters in Las Vegas today and one theater in Henderson.

[@CitizenDevi]

Y'all gonna review November Criminals? Heard it's not that good but I'm wondering what you are all gonna think about it...

[@JoDeKeCh]

So, what are the movies that got even a higher rating from Christy this year?

[@slyjokerg]

Call Me By Your Name, for one.

[@michellegordon4211]

It was brilliant from start to finish.

[@PolishMarinade]

Was not expecting this movie to be so good!! Well done. Funny but then I cried!?!? What the flick!? So good! Everyone has a story.

[@o_o942]

I'm going to watch this. But if it turns out to be some kind of "Poor Me. It's everyone else's fault.", I'm going to be furious. I'm really disgusted with the growing culture of blameshifting and victimhood.

[@showbizlife3910]

O._o Not giving away any spoilers, but this movie is very sympathetic to Tonya. If you go into it knowing that it's a dark comedy that makes fun of the main characters having conflicting versions of the same story (they all look like liars at some point), then you might like the movie. Allison Janney and Margot Robbie are terrific, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get Oscar nominations, but their characters are played so over-the-top. I prefer more realistic performances like Saoirse Ronan and Laurie Metcalf in ""Lady Bird."

[@randomfools808]

It's not really though. It balances that tone just right.

[@gtg488w]

O_o agreed!!!! That’s why I’m hesitant to see it, if they shift the blame to everyone but Tonya

[@TheStr8upmatador]

That's kind of what it turned out being, I don't buy it one bit

[@RaymondHng]

The film does not exonerate Harding and it does not justify her actions. It shows her as tragic character who went from one abusive situation to another.

[@PenjaminFranklyn]

Alonso is like Simon Cowell with his ratings 😒😂

[@omwomeia9181]

Katarina Witt never landed a triple axel! Officially, 8 female skaters have been credited with landing a triple axel. Midori Ito of Japan was the first to do so at 1989 Worlds. Tonya Harding (USA); Yukari Nakano (Japan); Ludmila Nelidina (Russia); Mao Asada (Japan); Elizaveta Tuktamysheva (Russia); Rika Kihara (Japan); and Mirai Nagasu (USA). In addition, Kimmie Meissner of USA was credited with landing a triple axel at U.S. Nationals, but it was kind of wonky and perhaps underrotated, so she's rarely cited for the feat.

[@lsrasr158]

OMW omeia. you are very close in your triple axel crediting, a few minor additions. as of aug 25 1988 8 women have landed the triple axel in international competition. Midori was the 1st but she landed the 1st official triple axel at the NHK trophy competition in Japan in 1988. Kimmie landed the triple axel at US nationals but it was not international competition so not officially credited. Three women have successfully landed the 3A at the winter olympic games. Midori at Albertville in 1992, Mao at Vancouver in 2010 and now Mirai in South Korea this year.

[@lsrasr158]

date correction above - as of aug 25 2018, 8 women have landed the 3A in international competition.

[@johnhallmark6742]

Athletic competitors are taught integrity, sadly integrity is something Tonya was never taught. The evidence is her knowledge of the attach on Nancy Cardigan, very sad, poor sportsmanship!

[@LeviBulger]

Nancy "Cardigan" LMAO

[@johnjackson1681]

Margot Robbie killed this role

[@ForzaTerra89]

God what idiots, everyone is taking this movie at face value when it's told from her perspective. It's a great movie, one of my favourites of the year. But she definitely knew and was definitely involved! She called asking where Nancy skated and if she had moved and even the hitman said she knew about it.

[@VultureClone]

Margot Robbie was fantastic in this movie. Her best performance yet.

[@sadiegallant-holloway7950]

Matt that part of the movie you praised was THE WORST! The movie treats everything like a schlocky joke and than scolded everyone for laughing

[@tikifreaky5204]

These Utube ads are getting out of control!

[@mikeyoungblood1642]

It looks like Margot does a good job and she is a phenomenal actress, but maybe she is too attractive for the role. They didn't make her look hard enough. Charlize Theron in Monster as an example

[@RaymondHng]

Charlize Theron really captured Aileen Wuornos' mannerisms.

[@paesitopaez4302]

I loveddddd this movieee

[@1besieged]

Tonya Harding deserves a Presidential pardon , as an American gold medal athlete, she was grossly over prosecuted and she did not even comment the crime! I hope Tonya earns LOTS of money for the movie , and SUES the U.S. figure skating ASSociation for adding heaps of punishment unto her undeservedly, remember kerrigan had a few bruises, those heal, and Tonya paid with her life, career, future etc. I side with Tonya and yes i will see the movie I was leaving comments way before I ever heard of any movie. Tonya paid with her years of life, from age 24 even until now over 23 + years and people are still attacking her, Tonya a gold medal best in the world ice skater still being attacked 23+ years later.. FACTS. freedom of speech USA

[@TheCharleecrat]

well, the description of exactly how Harding made it to the 94 Olympics is not entirely true. After Kerrigan ( whose father ran a Zamboni on top of two other jobs to pay for Kerrigan's ice rink rental) was whacked on the knee, Harding won National's which made her make it to the Olympics. Had the whack heard around the world not happened Yamaguchi would most likely have won the 2nd choice to the Olympics.

[@TheCharleecrat]

Btw, after all these years Tonya now admits she " overheard them talking about taking someone out so she would get put on the team". Shawn is dead and Jeff has always said she was in on it from the get-go

[@jcampezzi1027]

Kwan won second they moved her to make room for NK

[@AndrewsOpinion15]

nice i tonya [2017] film - official movie review !!!

[@triflingmatter]

What is it with Margot Robbie and movies that have incredibly obvious song choices.

[@trexguy]

Margot Robbie is to beautiful to play this character. God forbid average female looking actors get a chance to play disturbed characters. What else is new?!

[@floraposteschild4184]

And importantly for this role, she's too tall. Physics is the reason that people in sports like ice skating, gymnastics, and diving are usually short. Glad she gave a good performance, though.

[@FlushyTheDrummer]

movies are a business and shes the main selling point, bore off

[@showbizlife3910]

Margot is one of the producers of this movie, so of course she had a say in who was cast. Hollywood has a long history of casting actors in biographical projects who are better-looking and look nothing like the real people they're portraying. If the actor is good enough, the performance is what matters. Examples: Michael Fassbender as Steve Jobs. Claire Foy as Queen Elizabeth II. Idris Elba as Nelson Mandela. And there are plenty of "average-looking" female actors who play disturbed characters. Kathy Bates, Frances McDormand and Ann Dowd have won awards and made careers out of it.

[@showbizlife3910]

Agreed. Once you see the movie, you're not thinking about her height. It's a good performance. Worthy of an Oscar nomination but not worthy of a win, considering there were better performances in other movies.

[@slyjokerg]

+trexguy So they should put some ugly nobody in the movie to more accurately depict the character, and then have no one see it and make no money? Yeah, that seems rational. What were they thinking by putting a beautiful, talented, known actress in a major motion picture??? Crazy. I'm with you. I would have gone the route of having no one see my movie and not make any money on it. You should be a studio head.

[@nickgee90]

Matt's movie math is something I would do haha

[@TheOneThatGotAwayRMAPLS]

Margot Robbie and Allison Janney gives Oscar Worthy performances it's about acting not how pretty you look stop that guys...

[@bigraviolees]

sorry I am not buying Tonya is the victim

[@Raid_3011]

bigraviolees it didn’t do that but ok

[@RaymondHng]

Nancy Kerrigan was the victim in the knee capping incident. Tonya Harding was the victim of her mother's and ex-husband's abuse.

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

Honestly Margo is too hot for the role. Established. But who should have REALLY played her? Amy Adams. Exact same facial structure.

[@showbizlife3910]

HitchensImmortal I noticed some comments on other message boards saying the same thing -- that Amy Adams would've been a better choice to play Tonya. Physically, she looks more like Tonya, but Amy wouldn't be that convincing playing a teenager or someone in her early 20s. She's also not that great at playing a crude, working class person with below-average intelligence. I didn't think she was convincing as a working-class person in "The Fighter." I thought she was terrific in "American Hustle" and "Arrival" and other roles where she's supposed to be someone who's intelligent.

[@M4B3THinSPACE]

Why do you guys show a piece of the trailer, introduce yourself and the movie you'll be reviewing, and then SHOW ANOTHER CLIP OF THE TRAILER?? It's really annoying. What does the second clip do that the first doesn't accomplish or vice versa?

[@lucashassen1188]

Amy Adams would've been a better Tonya looks wise...

[@fong03]

Matt! Katarina Witt never landed a triple flip, let alone a triple axel. Lol 😂 Wrong generation of skaters. ;)

[@roshieifra]

fong03 I thought the exact same thing. :)

[@fong03]

It did make me chuckle. :)

[@menevetsny]

Her rejection of downhill skier Tomba was soooo cold.

[@slyjokerg]

Witt got bonus points for the de facto thong, and they were well deserved bonus points.

[@RaymondHng]

Witt did not land a triple Axel or a triple Lutz. She did, however, land a triple flip.

[@squatch545]

Saw it at TIFF, it was pretty bad. The audience groaned and booed in some parts, there were even a few walk-outs. So I'm baffled that WTF gave this a high score. Margot Robbie is just horribly miscast in this film.

[@Gaugzilla]

Joe Smith It’s not great, but Robbie is excellent.

[@matthewheywood8532]

You do know movies are subjective right? If it was as you say the circumstances also can make for a bad viewing experience.

[@CaptainBlaze]

Well the movie was produced by her and her husbands's production house so.. she was the caster not the casted actress

[@ernesthemmingway3975]

Blown away? Hypnotized? Wow...so overrated.

[@neiladlington950]

See my avatar? That's Yuna Kim; I'm a figure skating fan; some years more than others. Harding was able to do triple axles; few women to this day can. But to say she out-skated others is factually wrong. Yes, figure skating is a judging sport but the facts are figure skating is more than just jumps, especially back then. Tonya did some things better than others but not nearly enough to be considered gold medal material. Figure skating is NOT gymnastics although there is art in that "sport" as well. Figure skating is supposed to be a blend of art and sport where "transitions" between jumps is also judged and scored; where you find things like musicality, grace and flow. That wasn't her strong suit and I'm being kind.

[@Ketraar]

Then what has art to do in the Olympics? Either its a sport and you can judge based on set rules and scale or its just made up shenanigans. Next up in the Olympics: Rap Battles or Speed Painting.

[@KP-zd3hc]

Did you see Tonya Harding's lutz jumps? :/

[@CaptainBlaze]

Ketraar in figure skating olympics theres a parameter called artistic choreography and thats where the transition between technical jumps happen. During tonya's era, their grading benchmark is very differrnt than modern figure skating. Many people dont see 'emotions' in tonya's skating, you can compare it to Kim Yuna 2014 gold medalist. The benchmark has increased by a lot. Pls research before you talk with stupid sarcasm

[@CaptainBlaze]

kristy park yes her technical skills are on point (although she couldnt maintain it in later years), but she didnt bring anything else to the table besides the technical points

[@Ketraar]

Well you could have ended your reply without the insult and ignorant assumption about my knowledge of figure skating, for all you know I can have a masters degree in it. If you cared to read what I wrote and not just jump the gun, trying to be a smart ass, you would have realised that all I said was that in a SPORTS COMPETITION you can NOT have subjective scoring, it needs a standardise scale so you dont score people unfairly. Which is what happened A LOT in the 80's and 90's where judges were clearly biased (not just with Tonya and not just in figure scatting). I could go on about how all this is nonsense anyway and how sexist it was and still is (Male rhythmic gymnastics, synchronised swimming, etc?) but you put my off with your arrogance and I cant be bothered to deal with the likes of you.

[@amphitheatre]

ya'll want devastating? try I, Olga Hepnarova instead of I, Tonya.

[@adamw116]

I have to totally agree with Christy! One of my biggest pet peeves in movies is when a generic soundtrack is used as opposed to interesting music choices! It sometimes even ruins dramatic/exciting scenes! Boring music choices I would assume are used in commercial films most of the time to appeal to rhe masses who only listen to the radio and aren't really into anything but hits!

[@Rice_peace]

Thsi feels like another fargo

[@Rice_peace]

Small town underrated woman. Crime scene. Just the characters surrounding her too.

[@gqlovalova]

Margot is too pretty to play that role

[@PrincipiaDeCinema]

99% of the time when a real person is being played by an actor in the movie the actor is way too pretty to be playing that person.

[@reyalexandro]

What a stupid point.

[@gqlovalova]

Worst Person On The Internet I would disagree but that's clearly the case here

[@chriscoyne9717]

The '94 Olympics part, red costume, am I the only one who thinks Margot didn't do Tonya's looks justice there? Like Tonya looked prettier

[@gqlovalova]

Chris Coyne you are the only one buddy.

[@RedDragon45]

Wow Matt got so skinny!!!

[@owiseone1]

Love Alonso's Stranger Things t-shirt.

[@paragoncumulus6636]

I miss What The Flick reviews :(

[@michaelmroberts6944]

i all ways wonder is the band usa only and how come she cant teach son

[@RaymondHng]

"band usa only"? "cant teach son"?

[@OOoKarmaoOO]

I found it too long...

[@SidV101]

Ugh this review was waaaaay too spoiler-y for me

[@matthewheywood8532]

SidV101 you know this all happened over 20 years ago right? How is it spoiler-y?

[@SidV101]

Matthew Heywood because some people were 5 years old at the time and haven't heard the story in anywhere near this much detail. All I know is that there were two competing American once skaters and one of them maybe tried to bash the other's knee in

[@matthewheywood8532]

SidV101 you are on the internet google it

[@SidV101]

Matthew Heywood I just told you I *didn't* want to know what happens lol

[@SidV101]

Why would I google it