I tried ALL the popular flat frames ...Which are best?

[@xenophagia]

Great and informative video, you guys are killing it. I hope you do a freestyle frame comparison (if you haven't already). *Edit:* The wind actually added a nice background ambiance lol.

[@tionik06]

I love this. I'm learning a lot and these guys are like ASMR buzzed. So chill lol

[@AitchBlock]

maybe a part 2 where you get into pairing wheel profiles and wheel sizes with a flat frame. Curious to see which frame you end up going with at the end and the reasons why.

[@arpeggio]

Great Idea !

[@helgevig5134]

Tnx for super thorough video! Looking to get some flat frames soon. Also, wind sound effect was cool 😁🌬️

[@hiddentape2911]

Hey guys the only reason I mentioned anything about the audio is because I got the impression you were making a good go of it on youtube this time round and I just thought the feedback about the mic would be taken as positive feedback. When i made that comment I was well aware of your status as a funtioning stake shop as I have been shopping with you guys for many years at this point, as most of your subscribers probably will be, and I had no expectation for you to change anything at all. Besically I dont care about the audio and I wish I never said anything as I can tell it got your backs up. Im a massive fan and I just love the channel! I wish you guys the best of luck in everything you do! ✌

[@LocoSkates]

Yo yo. It totally doesn't get our back's up! I hope that comment didn't come across like that :-) - You were spot-on addressing the elephant in the room and because every time we film we are so aware of the noise pollution it's become a bit of a joking point for us... made even more ridiculous by the wind that day! I just wanted to offer some explanation 🙂

[@hiddentape2911]

@@LocoSkates No explanation neeeded mate 👍 I love the channel! I have always had an amazing experience with your customer service on the website too and you guys have helped me out on a few occasions so I appreciate you! I also love everything you guys do for the skate scene. We really do need more footage of you guys skating though! Im sure we would all like that! 😎

[@brett.anthony]

This was awesome and very helpful, thanks. A similar video about wheels would be cool.

[@Op614Roll]

Medium Oysi, best overall for everything aggressive, street and park. Speed, sound and grind feel is on point!

[@rollforever85]

can't really go wrong with the oysi medium

[@chrisgoblin4857]

I've recently been riding flat on the Kizer Slimline 2 and I like them. Using 58mm Eulogy wheels on the inside with some 58mm Fifty 50 on the outsides for the magic rocker effect. They're nice but work better with some antis in them. I prefer the GC Mega for flat the most. Can't speak highly enough of the Mega. Surprised by the lack of wheelbite and feel so smooth rolling on the Revolver 64s.

[@cfronin]

I love the Mega too ! So much that I bought a pair in advance, fearing that they would stop producing it.

[@TuckerFreeland]

It’s hard to get wheel but if the frame walls are thick and that’s with any frame.

[@OnnoKaell]

Great video and awesome comparison. I really wish you would have included the Diridari frame by Entente Goods thou!

[@LocoSkates]

I tried the 8 frames I thought would be best for flat set-up (aggressive). There was a few available models I didn’t try because: - The video would’ve been too long - I wanted to ride bigger wheels than they housed (Them, Create) - I thought they were more suited to Anti (Create, 50/50. Note: new 50/50’s are out soon though) - They are an indie brand that only sells direct and I didn’t have any available (There’s quite a few different brands out there) …the frames I tried were a genuine attempt to come to a decision about which frames I want to ride on my 909’s going forward.

[@JaumeAguileraBadia]

Maybe a seba frame would have been nice to try and test. Also, weight is significantly different between tested frames (I guess between metal and plastic maybe)? Great video!

[@IfYouHadRobotEars]

Do you not like the 909 frames?

[@TboneSloan]

The sound is fine carry on fellas!

[@art0nblades]

Great videos coming from you guys! Love the way you chat about stiff and its not just one person talking (guess I mentioned that already). Jake, you can try the sliders on the Solas for cess slides. Ofc it takes away some of the soul space, but I still feel that topsides are fine (and less likely to roll on topsides). Have been skating like that for a while and really like them and the option to change the hblock depending on surface.

[@LocoSkates]

Yeah I will definitely try them! We have about 7,000,000,000,000 in stock

[@art0nblades]

@@LocoSkates aren't they selling well then ;-) I had to get them as soon as they were out. They are a great customisation option together with the h-block. Easy to swap things for sessions. And I do love the axles on them. So much easier to change wheels than with axles on plastic frames!

[@wheelsceneblading]

Harry just casually playing Forever Now in the background.

[@plastikmag]

So sick!

[@dahd0h]

Thanks SO MUCH for another super interesting video. This content is really really helpful and sure a research time saver for all us blade nerds.

[@staxlhax1849]

I switched from the kaltic v1 to the flt4 last week. I’m in love, super responsive, no wheel bite feels like they were made custom for me.

[@blowenfuse]

I would love to see some wizard & wizard style frame comparisons. Perhaps you guys could go over your set ups as well, what you like for different styles of skating etc. Also, shout out to the Slimlines for skating flat. I came from a freestyle set up to flat and love that big lazy H block when flat, you just have to crank yourself over really low. They work well with Remz or a low cuff boot.

[@sterlingpratt4901]

Oh this bullshit is so up my alley, thanks for making videos on the internet, I like it a lot

[@rocesboyanthony5343]

The Kaltik v1 is even harder on square ledges. You can’t be lazy with your Royales. You basically have to be Grant Hazelton doing Royales

[@JiggyGinJoints]

Yeah. Really wanted to like the kaltik. But the groove is to deep. You basically have to sezslide on curbs to make it work since wheels touch before you even reach bottom of the groove.

[@rocesboyanthony5343]

@@JiggyGinJoints huge facts! Didn’t last long on them. I was skating roces street frames flat and I just now started skating kizer fluid v’s

[@cfronin]

Agreed about the Kaltik being great but not looking good. That's what prevent me for not testing them for a long time even though I only ride flat.

[@willclark3921]

On your next video.. Can you get Harry doing a cess slide on the sola? 😊. I was really hoping you guys were going to review the Antony P flat frame.

[@nicolaiberg6579]

I just love these videos!

[@ameliacourtney1067]

I run Slimlines with 56mm wheels rockered up and they grind just like anti-rocker. I never have wheelbite with this setup.

[@6kunio8]

Yeah, I was thinking they were running too big wheels for it. He said 60mm on the inside, when I believe it's 58mm rockered down is supposed to be max. I recently mistakenly tried flat 60mm in mine and the insides would barely roll... I'm not sure how they were even able to skate it like they did

[@ameliacourtney1067]

If you can get Oysi UFS screws these provide extra clearance. I've actually had 59mm wheels rockered up in them and they all span without issue.

[@richskater]

Grew up in Florida, storms were common. They get named when they upgrade from a Tropical Depression to a Tropical Storm. The name carries on into the hurricane phase (if there is one). Every year we restart at letter A, and alternate male and female names through the alphabet. If the storm was deadly, the name is retired and won't be used again.

[@LocoSkates]

Every day’s a school day!

[@Kerbsurfer]

Its a shame you couldn't get your hands on some Entente, Diridaris. Also an excellent flat frame but I understand they're quite indie and you don't stock them.

[@rollforever85]

really want to try these

[@Kj16V]

Interesting that you found the Kaltik v2 feel slower than the other frames. That's exactly what I found too. I put it down to the softer nylon, compared to the glass-charged nylon of some other frames. Not a huge difference, but noticeable. Still like the Kaltiks though

[@awiemuc]

On 7:36 - a isosceles triangle gives a 45 degrees angle 📐 for royals ….

[@provocation18]

You guys really put on wind storm ambience? NICE!

[@rcm616-j5t]

Really appreciate this video!

[@chevy2die]

Here's a weird request....where did you get those glasses frames? I love them!! They're so simple but awesome. Brand and model if you know?

[@xenophagia]

Next video is going to be a glasses frames comparison 😂.

[@RollRoundAndFindOut]

Great video! Which skatepark did you use for the tests?

[@rubenseydler1790]

Excelente video!!!

[@Reloaded44]

Immensely helpful video thank you! 🤘

[@Luftbubblan]

You could try add a noise "gate" in post if you are worried about the background noises. Simple thing, takes no time, should give overall a nicer experience. Personally i dont care but figured id point that out since its such an easy thing to do.

[@fiditunka]

that was very informative and a little bit entertaining as well. 🙂 greeetings from austria/vienna

[@bladermacl3453]

That’s a really nice video. Thanks for the work you put in it. For me it’s hard enough to change my wheels on my setup from indoor to outdoor. And you have to screw wheels and frames. I think you can do the fastest pitstop out there now.

[@LocoSkates]

No you’re right… it was really annoying! 🙃

[@tvm-reviews]

Love it! Do you guys add the monitor content in post? Haha.

[@brilles]

You're missing the Entente Diridari!

[@JiggyGinJoints]

Yeah. But they are not really an option except for middle managers in hotpants on carbon bikes.

[@Ianslades]

thoughts on the 50/50 frames

[@parkplaceninja]

the best lol

[@fatalbrett]

No mention of AP FLAT ??

[@lesoir26]

what has yet to be discussed, is the width of the groove affecting the maneuverability of the setup. isn't the flat setup with a looong groove riding straight forward like an anti rocker? Cheers guys :)

[@xenophagia]

It's similar to anti-rocker as far as grinds go but allows for more speed and stability due to having all 4 wheels on the ground. Definitely better for commuting on your aggressive skates and skating on more rough surfaces. That all comes with a trade off of a little extra weight, of course.

[@Thedogwithdabutteronhim]

Is there a reason you didn’t test the them skate frames in this comparison? They are the first frames I’ve skated flat with some I’m curious how they would compare to others like the oysi

[@ewalk537]

Great video. I dont think the slimline 2s were done justice tho lol tge MAX wheel size you should ever put on them for a flat setup is 58. You should really be riding them with 55 or 56mm wheels setup flat. 60 is way too big esp for the inside wheels

[@LocoSkates]

Kinda still makes them less-good if you have to skate smaller wheels than other frames in order not to get wheel bite though! 🙃

[@chrishartleyjr.5523]

Same, love freestyle frames but hate how they look on film

[@zodinsangasailo6131]

I once talk with Gaston through email. Good to see his face. :D

[@adrianob.965]

Would you suggest the Oysi Medium or FR Oysi frame for a beginner who wants to skate around the park for the most part and grind once in a while? If it matters, I have a 45-46EU boot, so not sure if the length of these frames would be an issue? Thanks

[@FeRacional.]

Hey! Which is the video to is playing in the Harry’s computer when he’s telling his favorite frame ? Thanks

[@FeRacional.]

@@harry_abel thanks bro

[@vtecnerd]

Awesome video, thanks! What diameter wheels did you run in the Kizer Fluid Vs? I've tried to run 56mm Go Project wheels but found the frame walls are too thick and contact the ground way too often (like when just pushing for speed, for example)

[@LocoSkates]

Flat 60!

[@psykx]

You might be compressing the bearings when tightening the axle bolts? The stiffer frames would compress the bearings less and you'd get faster wheels. You can get "Speed Washers" on skateboards or longboards to prevent this and the axle's will be the same diameter for skates.

[@leebanismail4761]

Would be interesting where the 60 Aeon comes in this. Like the elements frame but low profile I guess.

[@chrisgoblin4857]

The Aeon 60 frames look quite similar to the Slimline 2 but they only do flat 58 max. Bit more wheel cupping on the Aeon but the H block has a similar profile. Not an expert or anything, just when I put my Slimline on I thought my skates looked a bit similar to an Aeon.

[@peterzammit3521]

Which are the best? The Oysi medium or classic?

[@vtecnerd]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKPdd36gn9F3q9E Oysi Classic like a Cadillac (cushy big wheel cruising), Medium more like an aggressive frame

[@parkplaceninja]

50/50 balance Jon Fromm's are the best

[@yobro3325]

Hi guys, quick question. Is the groove on the kizer elements similar to the oysi frames? Do they feel similar in grinds?

[@blanked_out_chin]

What is the height referencing to soul plate to middle wheel bolt?

[@Pratalax]

Hang on a sec, we got Michael Fish behind Jake, actual fish behind Gaston and likely somebody doing a fishbrain at some point behind Harry.... was this intentional??

[@LocoSkates]

🤯

[@cepe740]

What are some good flat street frames for Seba cj2s ?

[@R120-r4k]

What wheel set up where you using on the oysis frames?

[@CodeFisher]

Can I use Keizer superfluid frame to skate flat with 58mm wheels?

[@bladeshred01]

as long as it's the Kizer Fluid 5

[@timothyo1869]

Hows the line the screams

[@WillDeutsch]

I agree with Gaston --- you want your skates to look good - frame and all...

[@rollforever85]

A bit gutted you didn't include the GC Mega frames. Great video though nonetheless.

[@bjestudioinfo]

Thank you loco..next is liner lol

[@Bartvanwulpen]

Anyone else experienced that the symmetrics are a little bit rockered? (With all same wheels 60mm)

[@FernandoGraeff]

You shoud do an anti rocker version of this video

[@bomboe.ipp-beats]

top 🔥🔥🔥

[@rollforever85]

"Just don't get it wrong.. be better" 😂

[@watchthislekkertje]

Oysi really nailed everything about their product but the spelling

[@rollforever85]

At least it makes it them easy to search for online

[@randmcnally.]

I was having a laugh along with you guys about 80mm and anti rocker and I looked over at my wife who looked disgusted at all four of us. Also this video made me really not trust Harry. Did he remember deck? I don't know? will never know? Can he cess slide in Sola frames? maybe?

[@LocoSkates]

Ahh the gentleman doth protest too much! Funny about your gf 😅

[@randmcnally.]

@@harry_abel story checks out. I will never doubt you again.

[@randmcnally.]

@@LocoSkates all jokes aside I've been riding anti rocker forever. I am actually looking to buy some new flat frames at the end of the winter here. video was genuinely helpful. also really like the format of these vids - thank you all!

[@rocesboyanthony5343]

What was the first skate video that played behind Harry?? There’s a spot I think is right outside my house!

[@dereksimmons5877]

Aggressive has yet to pick up the importance of 7000 series aluminum for stiffness if you want to reap its speed benefits. But we've yet to see that because its just not worth it with so many affordable options.

[@Pratalax]

gotta say, loving the storm eunice ambience in the vid. Feel like i should be sat by an open fire as well for this, maybe with a mug of cocoa. And a dog. edit: yesssss, 69th

[@WULFMA5TER]

🤠👌🏽

[@ThatShaunBoy]

People can say what they want about K2 but the Unnatural frames were the best flat frame (felt kinda flimsy but the groove was perfection). I really wanted to like the Fluid V's but I never got round to skating them as they destroyed like 6 bearings just trying to get the middle wheels in (too tight, they ended up constantly crimping the bearing cases so the wheels wouldn't spin and I ran out of bearings).. Maybe I'll try them again at some point

[@rollforever85]

The trick with the Fluid Vs is to pry the frame walls open by wedging something rigid inside first, this way you can easily insert the inner wheels. I uploaded a video on this recently but I disliked my delivery so much I took it down haha. Just tried those K2 frames the other day.. definitely loving that groove!! Mine are long at 290mm, but I'm a UK10 anyway, so it's not too bad a match. Think they'd feel great after wearing in a natural rocker.

[@tawmifm]

You did every test on a 909 but you didn't even compare any frame to the Them Streets...

[@LocoSkates]

Have a read of our pinned comment above ^^ 🙂🤙

[@tawmifm]

@@LocoSkates Ah, I understand your intentions now. But it seems a bit odd to title the video like that then 😔

[@dmgd509]

"I've never looked at an edit and said. ... Those frames are ugly"... ,(Abel frames be like... Am I a joke to you ?? 🤷😂

[@mikhafares2509]

Huuge review guys, just to “complain” about kizer slimline i try this frames at my razors sl and don’t fit well, is quite deep souplate and sliders the frame don’t flush .

[@inlineadam]

It’s not equal soul width to frame height, it has to be proportionate to a phi ratio 😂

[@higgy1726]

Deffo googled it

[@tyreshredding]

Top vid, but might not want to show people's mobile numbers in the background...

[@SageRhyme]

You guys all look rough skating flat. You say it feels better, but it looks worse; so does it really feel better? Flat has it's purpose, like if you're really skating through a city, or if you're skating vert or bowls. But for everything else it's worse, we been known this for 30 years now.

[@Inferna-Rex]

My skates and frames better look absolutely hot 🔥. The skate set up better look lit not some ugly set up heck no. I hate having to wear anything ugly looking. Skate companies better understand we definitely think looks our astetitics absolutely matters! What we put on our feet and what we spend the little money we have on... it better look the best it possibly can. It better be sexy hot. No joke.

[@FVDaudio]

😎😎👍🏻👍🏻✨✨