I Tried Anti-Aircraft Build Maine

[@vampirecount3880]

6:30 Wow the republique secondaries trying to hit the Preusen actually killed that Minegumo with a stray shell.

[@MightyMenFromEarth]

I had secondary build for some time on Republique ... I had few fun battles , but about 90% with that build was bad ones , now I run classic sniper build on her , and she is made for that . (BTW Republique was my first T10 so I have experimented )

[@l.a.w.5738]

looks like a stray frontal main battery hit, or? but good spotting anyway! :)

[@vampirecount3880]

@@l.a.w.5738 It was secondaries because of the symbol in the kill feed. That symbol only shows if it was a secondary battery kill.

[@l.a.w.5738]

@@vampirecount3880 true

[@sikoetu5349]

@@l.a.w.5738 it looks like the rep. main gun overpen a few seconds earlier hit the dd, but not sure if such a hit would cause damage (probably not). And after that, a secondary stray shell killed it.

[@billwalker9509]

Remember back in the day when you could actually click on a plane group to focus your AA?

[@nicolasyates6988]

Those were the days... Cleveland could create a massive no fly zone that was ACTUALLY a no fly zone. Good times

[@billwalker9509]

@@nicolasyates6988 I really really miss the tier 6 Cleveland. It was my best of three ships back in the day.

[@kodacv1612]

back then I killed needlessly & often from above *kaga crossdrop intensifies*

[@Mr_Secondaries]

made sense when they only targeted on squad at a time when carriers had multi squadrons. dunno if it make sense now, unless you fight multi carriers.

[@Swarm509]

My US cruisers were all AA build and ruined CV's games if they decided to push the group I was protecting. It was a lot of fun for me back in the day. Definitely the kind of thing that "the spreadsheet" said was bad for CV players and helped caused the changes, but in mind was OK since I was sacrificing a lot of other things for that build and it was useless in a non-CV game. That being said a well played CV was still very strong, cross dropping and their active fighters all out at once was pretty fun to watch.

[@hectorc7080]

Worcester guy: we remember

[@subodhsrinivasamurthy6866]

I like how pq used the phrase ' I finally Sniped A Carrier' LOL looks like he worked hard for that carrier game, he should have played in Asia server for CV's.

[@davidanderson9103]

"I wouldn't call this fun, necessarily." 😆

[@calebjones8966]

Day 10 of pouring out a sip of my lunchtime coffee in remembrance of Worcester guy

[@LaunchpadGamingGuy]

Love it

[@timnone2924]

Ok, I'm missing something, what video is this from?

[@subodhsrinivasamurthy6866]

​@@timnone2924 If you have observed the comment section from the last month, there was a guy who was asking pq to make a Worcester video for a month he then gave up. That's what's all about. Let's hope that pq makes that video fingers crossed.

[@clmwrx]

​@@subodhsrinivasamurthy6866 I hope he doesn't make it

[@calebjones8966]

@@timnone2924 it's quite the PQ lore lol

[@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens]

The problem with AA builds in this game just comes down to the fact that it makes you so much worse in "normal" situations. Especially when there's no carriers in your game. It's especially bad on battleships because their AA accuracy is so bad. Wargaming has specifically designed the game so that no AA is capable of defending a ship from a competent carrier. They'll always get at least one strike off. If not two. Doesn't help that AA mounts can be destroyed. So AA builds on battleships are just bad.

[@saladino8882]

What you say doesn't make sense. If they worked the way you wanted, the CVs wouldn't do any harm. Shooting down planes is what counts, because squadrons end up pretty easy if you're not careful.

[@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens]

@@saladino8882 Clearly you didn't play the game prior to the 2018 rework. Back then, there were ships that had good enough AA to shoot down entire squadrons before the carrier could get a drop off. CVs had to think twice about attacking the likes of Montana or Moskva or Des Moines, and instead look for weaker targets. They required a brain to play. Not this mindless gameplay we have now where no ship is safe and can be abused for free.

[@Refrigerator44]

@@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens totally right. There was actual coordination between the members of the team in order to weaken those ships you mentioned. Carriers had to be careful to use cover to preserve their FINITE supply of aircraft.

[@daisyjohnson5103]

@@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens That's so true, carries back then was a high risk high reward with a lot of brain needed. You play smart you can destroy a ship pretty quickly but if you make a mistake and lose all your planes then you're useless.

[@amaratc]

@@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidensand you are clearly telling only half of that story. Because back then CVs could dev strike ship left and right, but that part is also gone. Also you could cross drop, so dodging and mitigating damage we can do nowdays was nonexistent back then. So yes, AA was nerfed, but so was CV's (alpha) damage.

[@Riaining7]

"I wouldn't call this fun, necessarily" @10:31 lol you crack me up.

[@Riaining7]

And in the next game, when you see that backing up BB broadside, and you had the fall-short bug... man, you do have some self-control. I would not be laughing, whenever that happens I can't stand it, makes me not want to play the game instantly. lol

[@Lukos0036]

I'm working on an AA Shimanto and it's working like a charm. It's maybe not Worcester levels of fly swatting, but for a t8 it's doing a fantastic job. My last round I got 36 planes just following some BBs around and smacking the CVs planes out of the air. And the build isn't even complete yet.

[@EvoraGT430]

Well that line has to be good at something, I guess.

[@Lukos0036]

@@EvoraGT430 It sure as hell isn't dps. My god the reload on those guns is unforgivable.

[@TakManSan]

Wouldn't this just scream Furious with that Combat Instructions. Adrenaline Rush too and ... ooooh boy.

[@Mr_King96]

I see the title and a grin spreads across my face. WG really managed to divide the playerbase, it's honestly impressive

[@billwalker9509]

In the first game, after taking all those hits on the starboard side you probably lost a fair amount of AA guns.

[@TheBjornEman]

if you look closely he has a addon that keeps track of the %AA and %secondaries that are still alive and by the end of the game he was still at 90%

[@arczer2519]

With the US mainline 0.66( 0.792% with flag) heal you get only about 3 full heals if you're primary taking pen damage due to them having standard 50% restoration of pen damage (compared to 75% of UK BB's or Pan American CL's)

[@I-02]

The WG gods have heard your request and will grant you constant CV games from now on.

[@Bunarmy]

Finally someone did a AA build, her other half of combat instructions is literally better AA yet nobody is talking about it other than just mentioning. Yet every vid on maine is either main gun or survivability build which is covered to boredom.

[@ishaanthadani7100]

Try aircraft build austin

[@CorsairCombat13]

It’s really bad

[@HomieMcBro]

@@CorsairCombat13I beg to differ. With the 4 point AA skill you can get amazing cooldown on your MBRB, in addition to other skills that further reduce cooldowns. Not to mention with defensive AA you can destroy entire squads

[@Mr_Secondaries]

AA build austin is hilarious. You can vaporize any planes comming at you once you activate priority sector and DFAA.

[@Ksordus]

it's damn amazing. I focused on CV and Johann De Witt's planes. They just melt and can't reach the target. (working not so good for t11 CVs. They don't care and just drop)

[@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43]

@@HomieMcBro Reminder that ASW planes also trigger that skill. That skill is basically another 10s cdr on MBRB even in matches without carriers. And the other 2 point skill is only 2 points, nothing wrong with spiting the carrier with it for only 2 points.

[@smallarmsfire7497]

If someone told me that PQ would be happy that a carrier attacked him, I'd have laughed at them.. but here we are.

[@doublesoul862]

19:15 I think that went low because you underled a little bit and the shells went towards his bow and since he was turning, his bow swung away from you

[@EGSON1996]

I think the 2 points AA upgrade on the captain is worth. 40% shorter countdown on consumables is nice think

[@danielpayne1597]

Kinda effective AA? WG: Can't be having that

[@level98bearhuntingarmor]

I've been waiting for this one

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

For a battleship these AA results are glorious. Most battleship AA has been shite.

[@canoodlingus6244]

" look at us , look at us" made me chuckle ha

[@WindIsCalm]

RIP Worcester guy 😭😭😭💀

[@ishaanthadani7100]

I’m still top comment don’t worry. I’m just waiting till pq finishes rating all of the rss ships

[@SpiritOfVengenace453]

Monty and Repub had a baby and we have Maine

[@littletweeter1327]

Man I’m so excited for the ship it just *looks* so dang cool

[@EvoraGT430]

It's way too big.

[@zograf4572]

The most beautiful ship in the game. Looks like Massa but much more elegant. Gorgeous.

[@Stephen__White]

11:00 You shouldn't focus your AA early, you don't get the burst damage for focusing your AA if you focus it to early or while the squad is in it's invulnerable period during an attack. Also yeah, CVs won't just throw their aircraft away against a target they don't think they can get damage against. Isn't much point throwing squad after squad after you to lose everything in a couple of minutes then be out of planes for the next 8+ minutes. The fact you were an AA build is likely what kept the CV away from you in game 1.

[@jaywerner8415]

And? That burst damage feels like it does JACK SHIT! You may as well pop it a little early so your AA is FULLY FOCUSED on that side for Max DPS.

[@Stephen__White]

@@jaywerner8415 Fairly sure the AA ramping was removed at some point, at the very least It's completely unnoticeable even on full AA builds, so there is no benefit to having the sector set early, and that burst of damage is 3.5%-5% of the squads total HP applied to the entire squad, some squads yeah that's not gonna do much, others it's quite the chunk of damage. Ether way free damage is free damage. Ultimately you have 15 seconds of priority sector on a BB, starting your sector early just means that much LESS time the CV squad is taking the enhanced damage. Given AA is a DPS race against the squads HP pool, the most damage you can get the fastest is how you take down squads. And trust me as someone who plays CVs and AA Cruisers(AA Gouden Leeuw for life), you can feel when someone uses their priority sector to early or best case for the CV not at all.

[@jaywerner8415]

@@Stephen__White I watch the damage numbers, ramping up your AA does happen. The green indicator is on the ship compass certainly indicates as such. Or maybe its just the planes flying into closer AA ranges. I too played CVs and AA ships for long while. The AA burst hurts, but not enough to really matter. VS just doing more AA damage by focusing the AA.

[@Stephen__White]

@@jaywerner8415 It's hard to make out the exact numbers on screen because KZbin video but watch the AA damage at 1:46 to 1:56 the only time the continuous AA damage increases is when the planes enter the closer range AA fields. The indicator on the ship compass with the timer is how long the sector lasts and what side of the ship it's on nothing more. Also using that strike as an example, the raw burst of ~1100 damage was around 4 seconds worth of long range AA damage instantly dealt to the squad. AA is a DPS race, and that gave PQ 4 extra seconds of DPS. All be it spread over the entire squad, but the damage does still add up. It does highly depend on the size and HP of the squad, but I can't see a reason to not at least try to hit the attacking squad with the burst. Even more so where against some CVs like the Russians it might be your only chance to get any damage off before the attack is dropped.

[@evolutionari]

The video I've been waiting for.

[@berserker4940]

>full anti air build BASED

[@eiresby2344]

Imagine super colombo

[@BasJon]

Just to say PQ that build is not classed as a full AA as you should have module 6 equipped which gives a massive boost and extra flak I know it’s crazy especially for American BBs cause of losing accuracy but you said it’s to show off the full AA build

[@Stephen__White]

You only get that extra +2 flak when you have a DefAA consumable running. On ships without DefAA it's just 15% DPS, and that's not nothing, but dispersion on the main guns, or reload rate for everyone else is just simply more effective. AAM2's AA effects should really be the slot 3 mod again, and AAM2 should get extra boosts for secondaries. Like slap another 20% secondary dispersion boost on it or something.

[@thechampionawesome1574]

Do an IFHE Preussen build and blast light cruisers with HE for the memes XD.

[@GodOfWaaar]

The hindenburg turned in if you look closely

[@LaunchpadGamingGuy]

And as soon as you take the AA build off, it will be CVs for days.

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

Also.. sekyriu somehow accelerating so fast that it can go around the island to dodge shima's torpedos, then the secondaries killing the shima later.. is a fine example of the bad state of the game right now XD

[@salamender8547]

sadly no spotter plane on this ship

[@Riaining7]

or defensive AA. I still think Vermont is among the best aa bb in the game. Just the other day I full cleared dropless Midway torp planes. I haven't done that since November, 2023. I feel they are hot-tweaking aspects of the game, because there was a long hiatus for effectively being able to take down planes since late last year.

[@Sam_the_Spinosaurus]

My only issue with the Maine is that the guns dont sound as punchy as the 3 barrel MK. 7 guns. Everything else is perfect

[@akasakakv9523]

23:08 What the flip

[@TheAddanz]

Torpedo build Maine next..

[@Geneticlyinsane1]

Been getting the same thing for a while now with shots falling extremely short , I was starting to wonder whether itss the modded crosshair as I use the same 1

[@hofnaerrchen]

Either Preußen or Hannover is called Großdeutschland in replay files... wonder what made them change the name?^^

[@stevepeterson6070]

Seriously. Those plane kills were NOT effective. The CV doesn't care if he loses a few million planes, he can still get his first drop off 100% of the time.

[@demitato142]

can you test out full aa edgar? edgar is arguably the best aa platform without deff aa, has the longest midrange aura at 5km and the 2nd is 4km so nothing comes close

[@smittty7343]

When does this become available for everyone?

[@V-V1875-h]

why didn't you just div with a CV then?

[@brianhutton2370]

how come he never uses the F key? are they limited resources or something?

[@thepaperbagmask]

I feel like not shooting the riga for 2 whole minutes waiting for the hindenberg (who was aware of you) to turn broadside at 19 km when you have such slow shells is a case of tunnel vision. Consider that the riga had 37k health and even with poor dispersion you can do 5-8k damage per shot

[@samvithkarthikeyachennupati]

Hey im new here , which tree tech you would recommend for battleship.

[@Sam_the_Spinosaurus]

American or Japanese tech tree battleships are easy to learn, fun to use, and great for XP. The British and German tech trees are good to learn once you've gotten plenty experience with the US and JP trees.

[@soondead007]

And played 27 matches without seeing a cv

[@josephbarnes3099]

I have AA build on all of my American BB's

[@shipness]

It’s the vermontana

[@kreiker8902]

1 minute in, only 14 views. Has PQ fallen off? (A Video Essay) I really hope people understand the sarcasm.

[@droidmotorola3884]

Don't get the point of this comment. But sure we get it

[@johnbenoy7532]

I'm truly confused by this player base. complain about the CV not attacking you when you take full aa build, and complain when the CV attacks you when you don't have full aa. Well duh

[@Stephen__White]

It's almost as if CVs like to not lose their aircraft if they can help it. Wild idea I know. Like why would they want to do that? They have infinite aircraft don't ya' know. It's so obvious that a lot of people who talk about CVs have never played CVs. Even PQ in his big "CVs don't belong in the game" video spent most of that video playing FDR, the CV everyone could agree was and still is brokenly overpowered and the CV that is the most noob friendly just giving the stupidly high HP of each squad.(FDR seems to always be the CV the anti-CV CCs and former CCs play when they want to convince their audience CVs are broken... it's almost as if they know their point wouldn't be made if they played anything else.)

[@Belgianbanshee]

AA build is as useful as a secondary build on a DD...which is not possible, I know.

[@Galvin09670]

Ship request D. Pozharsky AA Build

[@n0ideawhattoput]

How do you have 1 million coal?

[@christophersmith9074]

can you tri a sendary amagi next

[@Ksordus]

What kind of game is that? 8 ships tier 9, zero focus from CV, 0 10 tier subs, 0 DD-superships like Kunming / Zorkiy / Yamagiri. Want to test AA? - test vs Nakhimov & United States.

[@TheL0vecake]

AA builds are worthless, the first time a CV loses all his planes he can just never go near you again and just pick on your dds, or anyone but you, and you have then taken worthless captain skills.

[@snugglyhedgehog]

Day 10. PQ, could you make a video on Spotter Plane Worc?

[@beaugator]

Big Badda Boom!

[@matthewcasady6276]

Too bad this ship cost about 300,000,000 more credits more that I am willing to pay for it.

[@EvoraGT430]

Only for people who know nothing about being exploited.

[@ILoveforGames]

Day 14 waiting for Patrie secondary build.

[@UnimpressedAussie]

no doubt theyve made maine op for the whales but will nerf it for public release lol

[@CorsairCombat13]

say what you will, that shot on the Hindenburg was a miss, he clearly turned as he was reversing and you aimed like he was backing straight up

[@slip6699]

Agreed

[@bradleycoles9018]

still gets to drop tho

[@dextercastor3965]

auto upbote for AA vid lol 1M potential damage less than 3 mins into the game

[@steelraen]

wow fail shima

[@amaratc]

Films a video where he kills 8/8 planes, and we all see it, and then says it doesn't quite take the squad out. Luckily this community believes more to these CC lies rather than their own eyes.

[@MerC_prodxy]

First

[@MrBreakdownBoy]

Maine has terrible armor, sap will be it's bane.

[@alfiryapramatatya3]

early