I used to HATE **The Hunchback of Notre Dame** as a kid... but do I like it now??

[@bbadperson594]

the guy who sings _the bells of notre dame_ can freaking BELT, damn

[@Haley0822]

Also the choir slaps 👌🏻 that high d6 at the end?!

[@GrimmBones]

IKR I remember giving that song a more proper listen few years ago, and when I heard him go off at the end, I lose my fking shit.

[@artsysabs]

That would be Paul Kandel :)

[@notestasiskis]

In many of the foreign language dubs, they actually use the high note from this singer at the end of the song because it's so difficult.

[@gregorbaby4269]

I see what you did there

[@lemon_the_spider]

"THE FRENCH ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE GOOD AT! RIOTING!" this had me laugh-crying my lord

[@hopeonelove4703]

You mean next to the second thing they’re good at : surrendering. Sorry the white flag threw me off.

[@Nimroc]

@Clayton Mortl Pretty sure they were already good at that in the 16th century.

[@Victoria-_]

Same 😂😂

[@AtarahDerek]

Also affixing a white piece of cloth to a pole and waving it.

[@gabbyjones3758]

Bruh, Napoleon almost conquered Europe; even beat Prussia (before their revenge at Waterloo). Believe it or not, that whole French being weak and surrendering was Nazi propaganda that spread through the masses. It also was propagated about 170 years earlier during Seven Year’s War (the technically First World War) by Britain. Obviously propaganda is a powerful thing.

[@sirenfang1179]

"the french doing what they're good at - rioting" as a french person that made me laugh so hard because it is, in fact, extremely true

[@kitkatzalamode9839]

Youve clearly never been in America then. Every day I see on the news some march or protest going down in DC or Bmore. Riots tend to happen there often too; enough so when Im watching the local news at night while Im cooking dinner I dont even bat an eye.

[@Sharpe1502]

@@kitkatzalamode9839 We got it from the French.

[@barbhumphreys1271]

When she said "Doing what their good at" my ugly ass was like "but they're not surrendering?"

[@stevennunez6013]

And chopping heads off….😳

[@perhaps1131]

@@barbhumphreys1271 LMAO

[@timeneses]

I find it important that Quasi doesn't "get the girl". Esmeralda is not a prize to be won.

[@anothervagabond]

On the one hand, I agree that that's a very important message. On the other hand, the movie where the main character isn't traditionally attractive just so happens to be pretty much the *only* movie that has that message. It just feels a little disingenuous to me... it doesn't feel like they're saying "Esmerelda isn't a prize to be won.", it feels like they're saying "Only pretty people deserve love.", because every single other movie *does* end up with the (much more conventionally attractive) main character "getting the girl".

[@Garland41]

Yeah... but's it weird how he holds her like one after saving her from the Fire... Like... did you need to hold her above your head, Quasi?

[@anothervagabond]

@@Garland41 I get the feeling that was done more for the imagery of it, but yeah, it definitely comes off a little weird watching as an adult.

[@thomaszloi9444]

@@Garland41 he's screaming Revolution in latin or french as I remember. He's just hyping people for justice

[@Orion_TheyThem]

@@thomaszloi9444 he's literally screaming Sanctuary.

[@jeanetten.s.8557]

Hi, raised in a religious family here. My mother actually MADE ME watch this as a kid. She wanted me to know the history, to learn from the mistakes of the church and make sure none of this ever happens again.

[@RecklessADHD]

Same here! I don't love the movie٫ but I can definitely appreciate the complexities and truth it shows. It can be hard to watch all at once٫ so I tend to watch it in bits and pieces.

[@mirkohoble]

I would love to see a movie like this but with Jewish people and Muslim people. A war and discrimination is not worth for a land than can be shared, they have the same God after all, surely he loves both of them equally.

[@RecklessADHD]

@@mirkohoble Not all of them believe they have the same God... so I'm not sure how well that would go over.

[@deenight8349]

@@mirkohoble I'm muslim and i think it would be interesting, though we have arab movies with those themes, I would be interesting in a western production's point of view

[@deenight8349]

@@RecklessADHD not all, but I would say the majority do. At least where I'm from. in Islam , it is believed that the jewish, islamic and christian god is one and the same.

[@valerieh3875]

I love how Esmeralda was seen as a heathen (of sorts) in the movie, but was actually a better Christian than practically everyone.

[@carniethedat7071]

It's a great condemnation of those who claim to be "Christian" while doing the exact opposite of what their religion tells them to do. People who are selfish, uncaring, greedy, and more all flock to the church because people tell them that praying will give them what they want, when in actuality, praying does nothing of the sort (and arguably does nothing in the first place). And the sad part is that the church led people to think that not only begging for their own success from a mythical figure was right and justified, but also that dehumanizing people who didn't believe the same thing was right as well. When people treat you like a criminal on sight and refuse to help because they're so focused on their own success, what other option is there to survive? Sure, the Romani weren't Catholic, and there were a few beliefs even in their culture that are still outdated or steeped in bias, but that doesn't mean that the average Romani wasn't ultimately a decent person forced to scrape by thanks to being seen as "immoral" and "unclean". And then Esmeralda comes in and shatters the whole dichotomy. I'm so glad Victor Hugo himself took out the part about Esmeralda not being Romani in his own adaptations, because that both played too much into stereotypes and traded out that part of the message for a much weaker one.

[@kinagrill]

It's why I've never subscribed to the whole 'organized religion' concept. If a god actually exists, he/she/it would not be so 'fallibly human' as to require worship to judge someone's actions if they can go to whatever afterlife may exist or whatever punishment for evil that exists.

[@jon85753]

I mean she's probably Orthodox, so a heratic, not a heathen.

[@mikeydubbs8565]

@@jon85753 me (an inquirer in Catholicism) and my Eastern Orthodox friend have religious discussions all the time; there’s only a few differences in our respective faiths. The subject of Christ’s humanity vs divinity, where the Holy Ghost precedes from and the focus on Christ’s suffering for our sins vs the triumph over death come Easter are really the only ones I can think of off the top of my head

[@megamovieman101]

And it’s especially funny because she’s so clearly agnostic 😂 in her song she flat-out acknowledges that there might not be anyone there

[@radikill505]

Okay but LISTEN Quasimodo and Rapunzel best friends agenda: they're both artsy sweethearts that were stolen from their birth parents and locked in a high tower and manipulated by their abusive captors. Tell me I'm wrong.

[@sarahb8695]

@@madebycoffee Aww, I love that!

[@AtarahDerek]

I ship Frothel. Proudly.

[@mourningstvr]

A CROSS OVER I NEVER KNEW I NEEDED !!!

[@nathancruz9172]

You’re not wrong.

[@crocsinthewater4838]

SOMEONE DRAWS THEM HANGING OUT I FORGET THE NAME AND PLATFORM BUT AAAA

[@markodarkman1061]

No wonder kids didn't like this movie, it was handling some adult themes that would fly over kids head. Frollo's song is still the best villain song along side with Scar's from Lion King and Rasputin from Anastasia .

[@Senidhr]

That are also my favourite vilian songs =D

[@Vittanni]

I also like Zira's from Lion King 2

[@Senidhr]

@@Vittanni I also like that one =)

[@aquariussolaris2492]

Those kids where weak i ate this shit up when i was 10.

[@Zeul28]

@@aquariussolaris2492 Hahaha dude. A dark Aquarius. Thats scary.

[@elizabethalderman8749]

Fun fact - Disney executives/original animators went to Notre Dame after the tragic fire to donate copies of the original sketches and photos to help in the restoration of the church.

[@TheJabbate1]

Also the game developers of one of the Assassin's Creed games gave them all their 3d scans and models.

[@otakutoongamer5616]

I love them more now

[@elizabethalderman8749]

@@otakutoongamer5616 Disney is corrupt but at least they have some heart

[@SpartanChief17C]

@@elizabethalderman8749 sorry I had to delete my previous comment. I did a google, and that “modern” look was a proposed design. They eventually decided to rebuild it to look EXACTLY like the original. Again, I apologize for the confusion

[@elizabethalderman8749]

@@SpartanChief17C THANK YOU

[@giuliapaschoarelli4480]

As someone who came from a Catholic household, yes, I was allowed to watch it. The movie doesn't really disrespect Catholicism, it just criticizes the hypocrite ones who follow it.

[@tinymxnticore]

They changed Frollo from an archdeacon to a judge to avoid offending Catholics. IMO the change works because injustice is a strong theme in the movie as well as religion.

[@jenson6532]

Yeah, it didn't depict catholicism as a bad thing and offered different perspectives (specially in the songs)

[@misterminutes4504]

@@tinymxnticore And aren't the priest and frollo in the og like brothers?

[@GoddessRubyJade]

Same, they showed us in catholic school lol, as a bridge to begin the lessons on corrupt church leaders and anti popes throughout history 😂 I don’t think anyone realized frollo was just a judge and not a cardinal or something 😅

[@annamagni1926]

@@misterminutes4504 nope frollo was the archedeacon and was not... a totally bad person? he was way more complex in the book they couldn't depict frollo in all his complexity in a disney movie lol. but yes he did have a brother he took care of when they parents died but he was a student... and died without his brother ever knowing.

[@lilycourgette]

The movie is so DARK but that’s what makes it so good compared to other Disney movies and the soundtrack is🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@conwaytwittyer2667]

Yeah, but the book is so much darker like I don't know how they got the permission from Disney to adapt it in the first place cause the original story is just soooo dark and depressing, and not a children's story. But I'm glad that they did cause the soundtrack FUCKING BOPS.

[@dorkywhovian1018]

Ikrr! Same with Tarzan and the whole... showing of the dead bodies thing. The darker disney movies are the best honestly cuz they tackle such dark concepts

[@joshualowe959]

@@dorkywhovian1018 don't forget Lion King & Pocahontas

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

@@dorkywhovian1018 It was the shadow of his body actually :)

[@KdeeBUBBLES444]

@@RedRoseSeptember22 i think they mean Tarzan's parent's dead bodies. You can see them behind a wooden panel when Kala first walks into the treehouse

[@PumpkinMozie]

Honestly Frollo is one of Disney’s most terrifying villains. This movie is a masterpiece. Suuuuper different from the book, but not necessarily in a bad way.

[@Platinum400]

Tbh I personally appreciate the changes. The book is too dark for me personally and never would’ve worked as a Disney film.

[@christophermichaelclarence6003]

It's actually a real life villain. You might encounter guys like Jean Claude Frollo

[@pink_alligator]

Yeah, it's bcs (sadly) he is all too real/realistic. There's nothing magical or fantasy about him. The only thing that disconnects him from us is the time period

[@ivanelugo]

@@pink_alligator well, like Sykes from Oliver and C.O. he does not mind kidnapping or even killing a child as long as he can get money that way

[@gdawg1585]

Honestly i can see why according to Wikipedia this is considered Disney's darkest film due to its mature subject matter such as infanticide, lust, damnation, antiziganism, genocide, and sin,

[@damarisnohemitapiachavez7726]

Horrible fact: the scene where Quasimodo is humiliated, it was originally planned that they would throw stones at him instead of vegetables. 💔💔💔

[@hydrokineticpowerhouse]

Cruel but it would’ve made more sense. I find it hard to believe Quasi could lift a grown man in golden full body armor with one hand on a flight of stairs but couldn’t take on three guys.

[@anastaciared7528]

If you watch the stage version, they whip him instead 💔

[@MarieJes23]

@@anastaciared7528 my ten year self went to see that version and you just make me remember

[@tarayekardowin4506]

Sad fact in some places in the old times in Israel and Roman times throwing rocks was called Stoning and was considerd a death punishment. 😢

[@abbienormal8012]

Well, in the books he was almost stoned to death by the crowd soooo.....yeah that's depressing :( poor Quasi

[@lamcb.9476]

Quasimodo not getting the girl is better then the book ending. Where he opened the casket and laid next to Esmeralda’s corpse and died hugging her body

[@donghuaedits]

Esmeralda dies in the book? And she doesn’t end with Phoebus? Oh my

[@lamcb.9476]

@@donghuaedits Phoebus suffered a fate worse than death.... he married

[@donghuaedits]

@@lamcb.9476 he got married with someone else? Wow... the end of the book is more tragic indeed. Phoebus and Esmeralda are my couple! Love them

[@AgusSkywalker]

@@donghuaedits In the book Phoebus is a much more shallow man. He doesn't reall love Esmeralda, he just wants to have sex with her. And just before or during the act (I can't remember) Frollo discovers them and stabs Phoebus. He obviously doesn't die but he is convinced it was Esmeralda who stabbed him, and Frollo uses this as another reason to hang her (not burn her like in the movie). She is hanged and as Frollo laughs about her death, Quasi pushes him to his death. He then recovers Esmeralda's body from the river and dies of hypothermia holding her. Meanwhile Phoebus gets married to some rich noble lady. So... pretty happy endings for everyone. (Oh, and Esmeralda's husband runs away with her goat).

[@donghuaedits]

@@AgusSkywalker oh my gosh. I definitely prefer the Disney movie 😂

[@Vampirelilianfitzroy]

As a non-religious person I always adored “God Help The Outcasts” because while it’s yes a prayer it also a beautiful song about humanity, love of fellow humans, and wanting to help those in need.

[@aaronpark2396]

And that’s what original Christianity stood for. The corrupted church ruined everything

[@X0.LA_BRAVA.X0]

Same. And it's.. tbh one of the only scenes of God actually portrayed in a positive light that I've seen..

[@X0.LA_BRAVA.X0]

@icylemonade I think i saw one reference in Avatar and Attack on Titan, but that's about it. The only "christians" I've seen in many films are one that are crazy, or are just pieces of garbage that use religion against others, or in a way that is clearly meant to mock them. Squid game's an example.

[@X0.LA_BRAVA.X0]

@icylemonade Ikr? It's not like all of us are like that

[@tonystark8757]

Doing a dive on the meaning of the Latin in the songs is also really fun and adds a cool layer to it. For example, Hellfire's Latin lyrics for the background choir are mainly quotes of a prayer said during Mass of admitting fault and begging God's forgiveness, which in the song contrasts back and forth with Frollo's constant excuses and prideful obstinance. Frollo: "Its not my fault!" Choir: "Mea Culpa!" (Forgive my fault!)

[@KurtCobainsMicrophone]

I think Phoebus is a better match for Esmerelda. Not only because it's a more realistic ending, but also because of something I recently heard. Frollo saw her as a demon, Quasi saw her as an angel, but Phoebus saw her as a person. Phoebus earned her respect, Quasi earned her sympathy. And you should never, ever date someone because you feel sorry for them. Edit: Holy shiz this comment blew up, I did not expect that. Thank you

[@SassafrasTee7366]

Yeah. Phoebus saw Esmerelda has human.

[@isisbeatriz9110]

Yes, exactly! Esmeralda's decision to marry Phoebus at the end was likely the result of the way both Quasimodo and Frollo treated her throughout the movie, according to the Madonna-Whore complex: Frollo constantly viewed Esmeralda as an evil seductress, causing him to want her as his own and threatens to kill her if she refuses, while Quasimodo instead views her as a pure, angelic being, seeing her as being the only kind and caring. However, both portrayals are considered insulting to women, and Phoebus, seeing her as being feisty but good-natured, was the only male character that saw Esmeralda like a normal woman.

[@jaysuscrass9119]

in layman's terms Frolo : The modern Incel; given absolute power Quasimodo: the medieval Simp who becomes a man who don't need no woman. and Phoebus: The one true Chad, respecter of women it's nice to see even after all these years this story has so much to teach societies lol

[@memyselfandi7782]

True

[@Ranahi_Itma]

Also Phoebus and Esmeralda briefly met and had a small spark between them waaayyyy before they knew Quasimodo. So we have that too.

[@rebeccabecbeku]

Coming from a religious household, we hated Frollo even more for twisting our beliefs to justify baby murder.

[@rockhistoria2537]

👏that's👏 the real 👏 Christian👏 spirit👏 props to you and your family pal

[@desmondgentle1474]

The story of Exodus. That is all

[@rebeccabecbeku]

@@desmondgentle1474 What part? The babies in the Nile?

[@RecklessADHD]

@@desmondgentle1474 Dude

[@dawnmcgruder5533]

@@RecklessADHD What happened?

[@erintoney7137]

Trust me. None of us understood the darkness of this movie when we were kids. Watching it as an adult was a totally different experience. Also, there were some things that had to be changed to keep this movie rated G, so it was actually darker at one point. For instance, they supposed to throw stones at Quasimodo during the festival scene.

[@pink_alligator]

This was my favorite movie as a child, I understood the darkness. I couldn't understand the symbolisms (kids haven't developed the parts of our brains to understand that yet) but except for not quite getting that Quasi's mom literally died before our eyes, I understood it. But I was also a weird kid who was bullied since kindergarten with no friends so, I was drawn to dark shit early. The black cauldron was another fav of mine

[@Vexarax]

I loved this as a kid and understood and appreciated the darkness as I grew up listening to Grimm's and Andersen's original (extremely dark) fairytales on audio cassette and never understood why the Disney versions were so tame. It was refreshing for me seeing such a violent Disney movie (I saw it at the theaters when I was maybe 8 or something) and my other favourite Disney movie was Fantasia which has some brutal violence, and nudity too :o And yes there was also a more graphic raunchy scene between Esmeralda and Phoebes in the original - it showed a very close up of their mouths kissing very passionately for like 10-15 seconds until he can no longer hold his head up and falls back down on the pillow. This movie is so badass :)

[@ddjsoyenby]

same this is a surprisingly dark movie for kids especially a disney one.

[@nerdgirl8978]

The thing I didn't realise until I watched it as an adult was how sexually assaulting Frollo was. And he creeps me out so much. This also makes the movie darker to watch as an adult. ...A nother thing,.. The scene with the fires on the cathedral make me now days think of the news footages from when the cathedral was on fire in real life some years ago.

[@Zombina638]

Nah some us did

[@louisac303]

this movie hits different when you're older - like, this really is a movie for teens and adults but they marketed it so badly by targeting kids so it's no wonder it didn't do that well when it came out.

[@sedij2358]

And trying to kiddie-fy one of the darkest stories in fictional history was a very bad idea, so I'm surprised it didn't end up worse. They did nail Frollo (outside of him being the archdeacon in the novel)

[@louisac303]

@@sedij2358 hell yeah, Frollo has the best villain song ever imo, and he’s horrifying because he’s realistic changing Frollo from being a priest isn’t really a Disney original move though - Hugo himself did it when he adapted the play, and then many adaptations since have done it. if you haven’t already you should watch Lindsay Ellis’ video on Hunchback because she makes the great point that Disney weren’t really adapting the novel, they were adapting other adaptations.

[@Ranahi_Itma]

That’s really a shame. Because I remember during my early childhood, I would always watch this movie religiously (no pun intended) even if I had it on DVD, if Disney Channel played it, I would sit through the same movie, commercials and all. Then again, my second favorite Disney movie was Treasure Planet and that also flopped for everyone else. (Ah well, always the outcast I guess). Lol, why are the movies with the best music, story, and relatable characters the least watched or the least-likeable?

[@louisac303]

@@Ranahi_Itma not to get too conspiratorial but Disney may have wanted Treasure Planet to fail 🤭 - you should watch Breadsword’s video on it I loved treasure planet too and it and hunchback are still among my favourites

[@rosenrot234]

I remember mentally checking out once the Festival of Fools section was over. I was 6. Just a tad too young to really enjoy it

[@isisbeatriz9110]

Crazy fact: The filmmakers briefly considered having Quasimodo killed off, since that is his fate in the original novel. He was originally supposed to be stabbed by Frollo, then Esmeralda regains consciousness and tries to save him by killing Frollo. Phoebus was then supposed to meet up with them, and Quasimodo's last wish was to ring the bells one last time. They take him to the bells, then Esmeralda and Phoebus help him ring the bells as he dies. The final shot was going to include Esmeralda and Phoebus crying over their best friend as the people of Paris cheer for their success, unaware of Quasimodo's death.

[@wandanemer2630]

Holy shit.

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

I get keeping true to the book, but considering how they changed the entire premise, it would have been tragic to either kill off Esmeralda or Quasimodo. But the play….oomph.

[@MetalTraveler]

@@gabrielleduplessis7388 Not sure if it would have been a kids movie if they kept true to the original :D Same with lot of Disney movies to be honest xD

[@vinzent9502]

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[@volkra9021]

The fact that what u just wrote is not even close to the original novel lmao (no hate just saying) . ***don't read more if you don't want to be spoiled for the novel*** So the fact that they made the characters so bad like: Frollo took Quasi willingly as his adoptive son and raised him in a good way. He letted him out (he was not a prisoner). Yes by the end of the book he became a piece of shit: tried to rape Esmeralda (2 times), stabbed Phoebus, let his brother die, etc. As for Esmeralda: she was kinda similar to the disney one except the fact she was so madly in love w Phoebus which leaded to her being executed (it was not the main reason okay? she was just acting dumb cuz of that love). The whole novel she was trying to only find her parents (at the end she found her mom but after 5 minutes of reunion she was executed so..(meaning: YES SHE DIED)). She did not do any magic tricks like in the disney movie. For Phoebus: He also tried to basically rape Esmeralda. He never loved her, for him she was only one night stand. He married his cousin. And for Quasimodo: One important thing was left out and that is that HE IS DEAF. He killed not only Frollo but also his brother. (and at the end was his body (sceleton) found hugging another female sceleton (esmeralda) so we know he willingly died there cuz he loved her even tho she could never love him). And we were missing one important character! Pierre Gringoire! My fav birdy brain.

[@EmphaticNod]

I'll go a step farther and say I'm actively *glad* Quasimodo doesn't "get" Esmerelda at the end. It's one of the few movies for children that doesn't teach that if you're just nice enough or good enough, you'll be rewarded with the girl/guy you like at the end. The fact that society's conditioned us to want every likable protagonist to "get the girl/guy" at the end is why we have so many Nice Guys/Girls and incels running around... thinking they're entitled to someone's affections because they've been kind to them.

[@thelambliesdownongenoa1831]

Right, better to teach them "love is only for attractive people"

[@EmphaticNod]

@@thelambliesdownongenoa1831 🙄 You have literally hundreds of movies out there that teach the "love what's on the inside" lesson. Beauty and the Beast, Shrek, Red Shoes and the Seven Dwarves, Megamind... I could go on. How about we have JUST ONE that teaches kids you can love someone, be kind to them, and be a good person... but that doesn't mean you will necessarily get romantic love in return. No one is owed a relationship for being nice.

[@aliyahpulido953]

Megamind has a great message against "nice guy syndrome" because Hal thinks he can have Roxanne just because he's nice to her, but he's super creepy and gross, not to mention immature and possessive. He's also narcissistic to a degree. Meanwhile, even when Megamind regularly used Roxanne as bait to lure Metro Man, Megamind and Roxanne clearly have chemistry. Just listen to their banter! She knows his insecurities and vulnerabilities, and he never actually tries to harm her because all he wants is to fight Metro Man. He actually has kind of a soft spot for her before he befriends her and then organically develops a crush on her. While she doesn't like what Megamind does, she likes his intelligence and he, in turn, likes her empathy and her passion for making Metro City a better place. (Megamind DOES start out as a guy who does villainous things, however I want to quickly divert here and say that Megamind isn't inherently evil. He tries repeatedly to do good things, but because he's repeatedly outcast when his attempts at being good fail because he's trying to do them the way Metro Man does because he gets respect/admiration for it, and all Megamind wants is to be loved/have a "family," because he didn't have anyone except Minion. Megamind was also outcast for his appearance, because people fear and hate what's different because they don't understand it. After being repeatedly rejected and punished for all these things that are out of his control, Megamind just falls into the mold that all his actions turn out evil anyway because that's what he's been conditioned to think. His personality is actually kind and gentle; even humble, if misguided, since he WAS raised in a prison by criminals. When he stops trying to be "good" the way Metro Man is, and does good deeds his own unique way, he ends up being a hero and winning the respect of everyone in Metro City.) When, as "Bernard," he gets to know Roxanne better and does things she enjoys and genuinely grows to enjoy them too, like bike rides, libraries, and cleaning up the city, she falls for him because he no longer looks like Megamind. Underneath the disguise of "Bernard," Megamind *is* actually becoming a better person. She actually did fall in love with his personality, as if all his other flaws and mistakes weren't there... I know that sounds fake, too, but she likes Megamind as a person much more than she likes Hal. Megamind respects her boundaries because even though he regularly kidnaps her and ties her to chairs, he never actually hurts her and lets her go/lets Metro Man "save" her because Megamind just wants to do the same thing another day. In an odd way, because this is their norm for a while, they're used to each other and even have some sort of weird, casual workplace friendship, because this catch-and-release is like a day-to-day job/routine for them. Meanwhile, Hal obsessively tries to "win" Roxanne, not just her affections but like, ALL of her, and he's jealous of others (Metro Man and "Bernard") when Roxanne verbalizes or shows any respect or connection with them. He also gaslights Roxanne to her face, while talking about her as if she isn't there. He says things like "Listen pal, ("Bernard") you're not her partner, *I'm* her partner," and "Oh, I see, you (Roxanne) just accidentally hugged him ("Bernard") instead of me. That's fine." When he becomes Tighten/Titan, he uses his powers to spy on her (looking into her window while she's making that string chart, saying to his "Space Dad," who's really Megamind, "There's this one girl I've got my eye on *currently...*" Which is LITERAL, he's staring at her right then!) He also says to Roxanne "But I have powers; I have a cape; I'm the good guy! This isn't right! You're supposed to be with ME!!!" And dropping her multiple times from great heights to terrify her, so he can "save" her because he thinks she'll fall in love with a "hero," from the (false) impression that she liked Metro Man because he's a superhero. I'm not sure if Megamind and Roxanne necessarily have a romantic relationship at the end of the movie, but they do seem to be good friends, which is more than Hal can say cuz he got his powers taken away and is in jail, while Megamind redeemed himself and is now Metro City's new protector.

[@eli._]

@@aliyahpulido953 bro when i saw this comment I was gonna talk about megamind until I saw your reply lol

[@jealsteven1500]

@@EmphaticNod What are you talking about? There are plenty of good and nice characters who don’t get the girl. The dwarves. All the utensils in beauty and the beast , Buzz light year…etc Disney had one chance to give the non stereotypical handsome guy a relationship and they threw it in the toilet.

[@fayescarlet]

The festival humiliation scene is so hard to watch, even today. It WAS very cruel.

[@SophiaPhannn]

It was too much for me 😩 especially since he already had reservations about going out. AND he basically got caught by Frollo, so it was just unfortunate all around 😭 The Gargoyles are just BAD LUCK

[@fayescarlet]

@@SophiaPhannn Oh man, truth. I love this movie, but honestly...they could have cut the gargoyles and nothing would have changed. @w@; In fact, it could have made an already-great film even better.

[@Jan_Iedema]

It always disturbed the shit out of me as a child.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

Especially since it was going so well until it wasn't.

[@sepiteria7797]

Me and my sister went and saw the musical once, and when that scene happened, she was literally inconsolable and my mom had to pick her up at intermission. I still feel terrible about it…especially since I couldn’t even tell her it ends well because the musical doesn’t

[@thomasray]

Evil people often hide behind religion to justify their disgusting actions. But that does NOT mean all religion is evil.

[@broadwaybrook2319]

Yeah, like in the film "Philomena," the nuns decided to take Philomena's son from her because she had a son out of a wedlock, but they were evil to take her son from her

[@noneyabusiness6504]

@@broadwaybrook2319 I thought that movie was based on a real life story, tho.

[@broadwaybrook2319]

​@@noneyabusiness6504 Yes, you are right, it is based on a true story. I, of course, just know the story from watching the movie based on it.

[@Abbe1133]

THANK you, this is something I have a huge problem with, because especially(at least from what I’ve seen) people think Christianity is some horrible thing and all the religious were terrible money hoarding people, and YES some people did that because the church had a lot of power, but not. everyone. was. like. that. And it’s very unfortunate what a bad rep it gives Catholicism/Christianity because it really is a beautiful religion(also I’m just focusing on this religion cuz this is the one in the movie) Anyways yeah there’s my rant about that but thank you for saying this

[@mirmir0003]

@@Abbe1133 yeah its just generally important to not try to minimize the pain and suffering the church has caused and is still trying to cause to minority groups, while acknowledging that belief itself is not evil

[@katievictoria4757]

Phoebus is Esmeralda's equal. Quasimodo sees her as flawless and saint-like. Frollo sees her as a sexual object or a witch. Phoebus is the only one who sees her as a woman and as an equal. Quasimodo gains acceptance by the end of the film, which is a different kind of win.

[@MadameTamma]

Frollo was literarily giving Esmerelda the ultimatum of "Come back to my crib and do the nasty with me or I'm going to set you on fire". He wanted her either bedded or dead. In contrast Quasi comes to realize that Esmerelda doesn't want him and yet he still wishes her a good life and sticks his neck out for her and her people. Not because he expects anything in return but because he knows it's the right thing to do. Because of this, Frollo's obsession leads to his death and Quasi is able to move with his life. The hero and villain are both going through the same arc of how to deal with rejection. To me, the message wouldn't be as powerful if Quasimoto had just "won" the girl at the end.

[@Amozon28]

One thing i really like as a Christian about this movie is that it shows a lot of different sides of christianity. Frolo uses his faith to justify his actions while shielding himself from harm. Essentially using his faith to justify doing horrible things. Something many Christians do especially those in power The arch bishop, while being a well intentioned Christian (protecting quasi and esmeralda) its also very bare minimum and serface level, and doesnt stand up to the things that are actually causing harm and is complacent to quasis treatment in the bell tower. Like how Christians might pat themselves on the pack for giving out loose change to a beggar but wont actually donate time or money to charities. And of course "god help the outcasts" is a direct callout to how selfish a lot of Christians are when we are supposed to help those less fortunate then us, just as jesus taught us. So while esmeralda is praying for others, the church goers are praying for their own selfish wants. I especially love the line "i pray for love i can posses" I think its important as Christians to hold ourselves accountable. I mean thats literally what jesus did with the pharisees. "Christian" is not label that protects u from constructive criticism. And this movie does it rly well

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

Yeah, it's a very good movie about the complexities of religion. Quasi does find hope and strength in religion, but it's also a justification for his abuse.

[@trenae77]

@Elizabeth Bennett No, it just opened the mind to what Christianity truly is. A Christian is a Christ Follower, not necessarily a church goer. Was the Arch Bishop or Frollo any more a Christian because of their position in the church? Was Esmerelda and Quasimodo's family any less for their position in society?

[@undiamas2069]

In all fairness it's hard to know what charities are actually legit

[@trenae77]

@@undiamas2069 very true, but I’ve had good results with Charity Navigator over the years. Some charities I had always thought upstanding I was shocked to find were no where near as transparent as they liked me to believe and lost my funding.

[@artbysarf]

@Ko Clover yea, but he also often highlights the “Love of God” in individuals, how individuals can act even when surrounded by unjust systems. In Les Misérables, Bishop Myriel shows kindness to Valjean when no one else would. Hugo says directly that “To love another person is to see the face of God.” This theme is present in Hunchback too (while the original novel varies a lot from the Disney movie, Hugo later rewrote it for stage and made many changes, and it is actually this version Disney arguably draws the most from). God, love, justice, these are present not in institutions, in monuments, in countries. Rather, we find them in other people. It is through people and their small but meaningful acts of kindness that we find God. I think that that message is a very beautiful one.

[@allisonfisher9304]

Also, fun fact, “Notre Dame” translates to “Our Mother”, so when Phoebus says that, “Frollo has declared war on Notre Dame herself”, he literally is saying Frollo has declared war on the Mother of All Paris. It’s a pretty right on statement.

[@sean.furlong1989]

Our Mother refers to the Virgin Mary.

[@AshTheGamerIsAwesome]

idk if this meant to be misinfo, but Notre Dame translates to Our Lady

[@killuanatsume]

Our lady not our mother. Notre means our Dame means Lady. I speak both French as my first language and English as my second.

[@supersaiyangrl3]

No. French speaker here. It means "Our Lady" in English

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

The confusion may be that the alma mater of the Catholic University of Notre Dame in northern Indiana (USA) is called "Notre Dame, Our Mother," and begins with those words. "Notre Dame" (Our Lady) is a synonym for the Virgin Mary (the mother of Jesus), to whom the cathedral of Paris is dedicated, so when the Archdeacon says that Frollo can't hide what he's done from the eyes of Notre Dame, he refers not only to the eyes of the Saints whose statues decorate the cathedral (which are shown), but also to the eyes of the Blessed Virgin herself. This, presumably, is what causes Frollo to experience a twinge of fear for his soul.

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

In the original story, or one of them at least, Esmerelda dies because Quasimodo doesn't get to her in time. So he basically lays with her corpse until he dies. If that's not sad, idk what is.

[@notaccessible3741]

At least she doesn’t burn to death in the original book.

[@KaiKinapela]

@@notaccessible3741 Burn no. But smoke inhalation in the musical. On that note, I highly recommend the Disney stage musical that almost made it to Broadway. So freaking good!

[@moonbunny24]

Yep that’s how it goes down in the novel!

[@Adamant_Adam]

@@KaiKinapela yes, such a gem! on here on KZbin too, I think

[@minisucredorge]

​ @Not Accessible Hum in the original book she's tortured and forced to confess a crime she didn't commit (stabbing Phoebus). Then she's hanged publically. Phoebus watches the execution with his pure young noble fiancée Fleur de Lys. When he sees Esmeralda being taken to the gibbet, and he's like: "Silly me! She wasn't that pretty after all. What a stupid crush I had on her all this time!" Phoebus actually got stabbed by Frollo. Frollo was spying on Phoebus and Esmeralda getting together, got consumed by jealousy, and lost his sh*t. Phoebus didn't see him, though. Frollo then tried to blackmail Esmeralda into running away with him (or die). Oh, and Frollo was actually a priest, not a judge. And Esmeralda is 16.

[@LatiloveOmg]

I teared up at "I thought we were all children of God" That hits close to home.

[@theofficalsilentraven]

When I first heard it hurt so bad..

[@Victorrie25]

The line "were you once an outcast too" 👌 gold

[@shaylynv.3037]

I'm Christian, and my parents DID let me watch this as a child, but I'm going to be honest, I didn't understand most of it. I watched it yesterday for the first time in like a decade, and I was shocked at how dark it was, but I finally understood it. It shows different elements and struggles in people's lives (even frollo, tho he's pretty evil), and I feel that lots of people can relate to just about every character in this movie!! What a masterpiece!

[@brigidtheirish]

If a kid is too young to understand the dark parts, they're too young to be scared by it. If a kid is old enough to understand the dark parts, they're old enough to watch and learn.

[@memecat9830]

Same I wanted to kill frollo

[@TVChild3]

I remember being a kid and also wondering how come Quasimodo doesn’t end up withEsmeralda (which really makes it seem like that’s because he’s too ugly for her). The morals of the story were just too complex for me : it’s a good thing Quasimodo doesn’t end up with her because it puts him in opposition with Frollo. Quasimodo respects Esmeralda which is why he doesn’t question her agency and choices, unlike Frollo who wanted to force her to be with him. So he lets her go even though he loves her, which is something Frollo would never have done.

[@GingerTurquoise]

EXACTLY. Ugh TT ATT i love this movie

[@drartemisa21]

I said it before in another thread, I'll say it again: this perfectly encapsulates the chilling line "What makes a monster and what makes a man"

[@bthsr7113]

I completely missed how the Judge offering silver for Esmerelda being betrayed parallels Judas being given silver for betraying Jesus. A cherry on top for the Church's hypocrisy and corruption.

[@broadwaybrook2319]

I caught that, I thought it was a good tie-in to the Bible

[@josephbanet5410]

Oh man, I didn't catch that Judas connection, good eye.

[@brigidtheirish]

Except Frollo is a judge, not a priest.

[@memecat9830]

For…silver? He betrayed Jesus for a salmon colored ingot…? 😶

[@brigidtheirish]

@@memecat9830 Ten silver coins, specifically.

[@brigidtheirish]

"Gypsy" being considered a slur is rather recent and, I think, after this movie was made. From what I've heard, it's also less about it being an outright slur and more about it being inaccurate. The name came about because people thought they originated from Egypt when they're actually from around India. Also, the first part of "Out There" sung by Frollo is *so* the original "Mother Knows Best."

[@jonathanjoestarwithpluck4930]

The specific ethnic group often associated with the term “gypsy” are the Romani peoples (with subgroups including the Roma, Sinti and Kale) and prefer to be called such, as I understand. There is another group from Ireland that isn’t ethnically related but still keep to the semi-nomadic lifestyle associated with them, they’re called Travelers (AKA Pavees or Mincéirs). Both groups definitely still face a lot of discrimination in Europe, even in the modern day. If you doubt me, go to any European space online and ask what they think about Roma/travelers.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@jonathanjoestarwithpluck4930 Oh, I believe it. We don't have Romani where I live, but migrant workers always got side eyes from some people. Even more so when they started settling down. *Most* people are fine with them, but it only takes a few to make someone's life miserable.

[@agwarddd]

Honestly, there’s an interesting debate about it within the communities, themselves. In my experience talking to people, there are just as many people who embrace the term, as those who denounce it within the ranks. In many cases, it seems to come down to personal preferences as to whether it befits them. Personally I suggest just not using it, because if it can cause offence, it’s simply better to avoid it.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@agwarddd Generally good advice if people are reasonable, but I've run into *way* too many thin-skinned people getting offended over things like the 'ok' sign, wishing someone happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas, and whatever the SJW crisis of the week is. Hell, I've got pasty white skin and believe in God, just me *existing* has offended people. Then I offend even *more* people when I open my mouth and I *don't* think every scientific discovery made since the early 1700s was some sort of elaborate hoax and that the cultural peculiarities of the 1950s are the immutable Word of God. I'm also aware that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn has been banned in various places for the last 60+ years because it uses "the N-word." Never mind that blacks referred to *themselves* by that term at the time and that Jim is by *far* the most sensible adult in the entire book! Certainly the most sympathetic. Song of the South has been nearly impossible to find since my early childhood, too, because it's "racist." Never mind that the black servants and tenant farmers are the *only* people who treat little Johnny with any real kindness. Hell, they *pay attention to him,* which is more than I can say about his *family.* Oh, but they talk funny. Yeah, it's called an *accent.* As a child, I didn't think them talking funny was a bad thing, I thought it sounded nice! And Uncle Remus was cool. Ah. This got a little ranty. I just get so frustrated at how easily offended people seem to be now and how *terrified* everyone else is of maybe causing offense.

[@dolfuny]

​@@agwardddthat's actually really interesting. I don't encounter many Romani people where I live but there's a similar thing in the lgbtq community (which I'm a part of). Many of us have reclaimed the slur queer but there are still many who are uncomfortable with the term, especially older folks and those in the American south where it can still be used as a slur. It's usually a generational difference because a lot of younger people just heard words such as gay as an insult and lesbian as a swear word so queer doesn't have the negative connotation whereas older folks would've had queer and other slurs used against them. I wonder if there are similar reasons for the conversations about slurs and whether or not to reclaim them

[@HuskerNinja]

Frollo: "And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit." God: "Say less"

[@tarayekardowin4506]

Frollo: "and he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit." God: "if you say so..." Frollo: *plunges to his death* Me: "Karma"

[@rhondahoward8025]

God: That's my cue!

[@mckinleyjotheweirdo]

God: A word?!

[@eileensnow6153]

God: ok bet

[@growlie2676]

God: If you say so.

[@ViewerOnline101]

Quasi find his own true love in the sequel. It's just a shame the sequel was so bad. But it makes sense that he didn't end up with Esmeralda. He wasn't emotionally mature enough yet to have a proper relationship. He also put her on a pedestal, and that wasn't what she wanted, she just wanted to be treated like a normal person and an equal, and that's what Phoebus did, which is why she fell for him.

[@isisbeatriz9110]

Yes, exactly! Esmeralda's decision to marry Phoebus at the end was likely the result of the way both Quasimodo and Frollo treated her throughout the movie, according to the Madonna-Whore complex: Frollo constantly viewed Esmeralda as an evil seductress, causing him to want her as his own and threatens to kill her if she refuses, while Quasimodo instead views her as a pure, angelic being, seeing her as being the only kind and caring. However, both portrayals are considered insulting to women, and Phoebus, seeing her as being feisty but good-natured, was the only male character that saw Esmeralda like a normal woman.

[@marilynman]

I think seeing the sequel is just a waste of time really. Being honest here, this movie is good, and a little bit dark for Disney standards, but still doesn't hold a candle to the original story which is brutally darker. But in terms of which story line is closer to the original is of course, the first movie. Watching the sequel is like going farther away from originality.

[@voidtrotter]

Im definitely in the minority of folks who liked Disney sequels aren't I? 😭😂😂

[@inukaiya1509]

@@voidtrotter Depending on the movie. Like lion king 2 was good, and cinderella 3 was great.

[@voidtrotter]

@@inukaiya1509 oh, there are definitely bad ones, I'm also just a sucker for movies that aged questionably and direct to film sequels are a treasure trove of questionable hilarity. I really did love all the Lion King films and the show though, they are all so much fun.

[@harithdanial141]

The real reason i love Esmeralda not only because unique of her beauty,but she truly show us what pure heroine should be. She not like typical disney princess who come from high ranking family or royal family but she just ordinary gypsy woman who have kind heart,selfless and caring about others people more than himself. No doubt the greatest heroine ever created by disney

[@Vexarax]

not only that but she is willing to fight and die for what she believes in. People say Tiana and Merida were the first Disney women with agency but Esmeralda is, to this day, the Disney female with the most strength and agency :) I was madly in love with her as a kid (I'm a girl lol but it was a kid kind of love - she was just so cool to me)

[@aleafazio6431]

They prefer Romani/Roma but ya

[@optimusprime320-h9c]

Loved Esmeralda and Mulan growing up

[@sacta]

@@aleafazio6431 Not all of them. The equivalent to the word gypsy in my language is 'gitano'. And it is used as a pejorative very often, but for example the hotel I work at usually hosts the president of L'Association des Gitans de France, who comes stay with us about once every year, with a group of fellow associates. And well, as you can tell from the institution's name, they use the French equivalent of the word, as opposed to Roma.

[@alejandrarodriguez8410]

I don't know if someone has already comment this, but Frollo questions are answered in the same musical number (hell fire) The guard who warns him about Esmeralda is in fact an angel, if you see the light it is a representation and the guard is basically giving him the opportunity to let Esmeralda go, and when he decides that he will not let her go the guard (angel) seems disappointed , it was his last chance to save his soul.

[@adekaiwamisou]

This is the first time I heard of this idea and I must thank you for enriching my experience of a movie I never knew could be even richer.

[@rebeccaanderson5626]

@@adekaiwamisou also Mea Culpa means My fault

[@adekaiwamisou]

@@rebeccaanderson5626 Oh I am aware of that. A great detail to have hooded figures sing that to frollo while he tries to make excuses. Man they don't mke musicals like this anymore.

[@rebeccaanderson5626]

@@adekaiwamisou ya mostly because Modern Disney Would be cancelled if they ever thried to make something like that . Also they were Singing the " Confiteor " if you see at the beginning of the song hellfire the archdeacon was singing this and those who ordered figures were just continuing the prayer with each sentence answering in opposition to the thoughts of Monseigneur Claude Frollo

[@adekaiwamisou]

@@rebeccaanderson5626 Well this is what happens when you put too much faith on the few and loud, who don't even buy your stuff. Personally I think if they did it, they'd get much mroe praise than flack. But the fear of risk is treated like like by big corporations anyway. Also, I didn;'t know that the archdeacon's song was continued by the red inquisitors of frollo's conscience. That is amazing.

[@CafeDeDuy]

Regarding the question you asked, this movie wasn’t banned in Catholic houses, because this movie didn’t portray Catholicism in a bad light. Frollo, in this movie, isn’t a figure of the church. He’s a figure of the state, a politician. So it’s portraying government in a bad light while Catholicism as the temporary sanctuary. But in the book though 👀

[@santiagovasquezgomez2136]

He isn't a figure of the church...if you are not informed about how justice worked in the Middle Ages. In many countries, including France, the Court of the Holy Inquisition had a lot of power. Frollo could have been a judge of the Inquisition before becoming the Minister of Justice, but it's never implied in the movie to avoid controversies. The movie shows the two sides of the coin about religion. One through Frollo and the other through the Archdeacon, both believers of God, but one of them a completely insane Pharisee devoid of any empathy.

[@CafeDeDuy]

@@santiagovasquezgomez2136 that’s what I said. I said he isn’t a figure of the church. I-- did you read anything I wrote?

[@santiagovasquezgomez2136]

@@CafeDeDuy I was trying to say that he is, in fact, a figure of the church if you consider the European Inquisition.

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

@@santiagovasquezgomez2136 which European Inquisition? Which one? There's multiple ones, some existing still today

[@thedoughnought7329]

Judge Claude Frollo is a secular Magistrate, albeit a "pious" one in the Palace of Justice, which was the secular courthouse in Paris at that time, The Archdeacon - a cleric - is portrayed as a good and just man in the beginning of the film

[@yezmer]

"Dude what do you think shes hiding? Bread? Shes not Jean Valjean!" I cracked up, Les Miserables references make my day.

[@lalazalomon03]

I actually like that Esme ended up with Phoebus. Quasi saw her as an angel and Frollo as a demon of some sort. Phoebus saw a woman.

[@nickbell8353]

I do remember some themes of not putting people up on pedestals. I liked my man Quasimodo, but he had some growing to do. Besides, he managed to get someone.

[@isisbeatriz9110]

Yes, exactly! Esmeralda's decision to marry Phoebus at the end was likely the result of the way both Quasimodo and Frollo treated her throughout the movie, according to the Madonna-Whore complex: Frollo constantly viewed Esmeralda as an evil seductress, causing him to want her as his own and threatens to kill her if she refuses, while Quasimodo instead views her as a pure, angelic being, seeing her as being the only kind and caring. However, both portrayals are considered insulting to women, and Phoebus, seeing her as being feisty but good-natured, was the only male character that saw Esmeralda like a normal woman.

[@voidtrotter]

@@nickbell8353 the sequel was adorable and I will die on that hill. Zephyr is adorable and Quasimodo makes a great uncle and has learned to be emotionally ready for a relationship by then and it feels far more genuine to me!

[@lascatnero1418]

That's the only way to go about it though...js, no one would take Quasi and Esmeralda as a couple seriously (some people would find it a bit disgusting even lol)

[@--florien--]

In my opinion, I liked that he didn't get the girl because you kinda predict he would, and for some odd reason, I like movies where you predict something, but you get it wrong

[@20TigerLily1]

When Esmarelda says "You mistreat this poor boy the same way you mistreat my people." And well yeah... he is like her. They are both Romani. Cuz Quasie's mom was Romani. Edit to clarify somethings. While I haven't read the book I do know that originally from the Book Esmerelda and Quasi were switched at birth and that Esmerelda isn't really Romani. What I base my post on is what Disney has adapted and shown us. We aren't told the women at the beginning is not really Quasi's mom or anything else. We are made to put together women holding Quasi is his birth mother who is Romani. Esmerelda has also been shown with the skin color and is not made known to be anything but Romani. TLDR. Basically I'm not basing what I said off anything from the original book but what Disney's Adaption shows us.

[@creatingpulsars9979]

lol true but she probably didn't know that, especially since he was white washed.

[@Shythalia]

Oh, right. I forgot he was also Romani because he didn't look like the other Romani in the movie.

[@szisziikeccs]

I read a theory somewhere that the woman is not even his birthmother. She found him somewhere and decided to take care of him. She died for the kid who was not even her own. Either way, a heroic woman. Fought until the last minute.

[@Shythalia]

@@szisziikeccs That's not a bad theory.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

Actually that wasn't his birth mother if you pay attention, she adopted him and was raising him in this movie, but in the boat her husband shouts "shut *it* up" instead of him, etc. Also Quasi was abandoned at birth and no one knew where he came from, there's several adaptations.

[@tiffcat3887]

Everyone talking about Esmeralda, Quasi and Phoebus and I'm over here thinking how well Clopin was written and how cool his character development is as we learn more about the gypsies. From funny Jester narrator, to mischivieus jerk, to seeing him without his mask as the king of gypsies and how at the end when both Quasi and the gypsies are freed and accepted, he goes back to happy narrator but without the mask because of the now accepting society.

[@joshualowe959]

3:13 FROLLO: the baby is an unholy demon. I'm sending it back to hell where it belongs. This is one of the reasons why Frollo is considered to be the darkest Disney villain. Not because he mentions the word hell(like Maleficent did in Sleeping Beauty), but he has no problem killing children let alone BABIES.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

And throwing them in the city well

[@martymcflown3707]

Instead of an idealized romance based on honestly childish inexperience from Quasi, Emse gets to be with a man who sees her for who she is and respects her completely. Plus Quasi gains the love and acceptance in the end that he truly needed, not just a romantic relationship. Personally I think it's a beautiful and mature way to handle a story like this.

[@antithoughtpolice7497]

Not to mention, I think Quazzy's rejection is supposed to be a foil to Frollo's rejection. Quazzy respects her decision, even if he was hurt at first, and Frollo tries to burn her alive

[@annabethdemary4486]

As a Catholic I really love this movie, particularly the song "Hellfire" (ironic, I know, but bear with me,) This scene cuts immediately from a peaceful scene of the monks praying vespers to Frollo also "praying" but explaining to God how awesome and virtuous he is and how his lust toward Esmeralda is all her fault. Meanwhile interspersed with his pride and darkness you hear the monks singing (in Latin and Greek) "Lord have mercy upon us" and "I have sinned most grievously" contrasting the humility, self-knowledge, honesty, and love of authentic Christianity with the self-deluded, moralistic, twisted version that Frollo practices. It was striking and beautiful. I wouldn't watch this with a young child because it's too dark but I think if they'd taken out some of the more cartoonish elements it would be brilliant as an adult movie.

[@nates.7968]

Exact same sentiment from a traditional Catholic; one of the most terrifying things for me is slipping into the same sin of pride and feeling of virtuousness that Frollo did. It is a very real threat and this movie does a perfect job of warning against it. Also some things to note about Hellfire specifically are the words of the Confiteor: the confession being made by the archdeacon and the monks is in direct contrast to the non-confession being made by Frollo simultaneously. In fact, when he says “it’s not my fault” the words of the Confiteor, “mea culpa” are chanted in response which literally mean the exact opposite of that. Additionally, Frollo’s prayer to Mary is answered immediately as the song ends and he ignores the resolution given to him by the Blessed Mother. An excellent reminder to us not to fall into the sins of pride and lust. May God bless you.

[@TheNocturnalOracle]

Everytime Frollo is on screen, Sophia: DISGUUSTING

[@RecklessADHD]

I can only hear that in a british accent: DIS•GUS•TING

[@tatarsauce6314]

DES GUS TANG

[@dawnmcgruder5533]

@@tatarsauce6314 lol

[@isabellechurchill1391]

SOPHIA THAT SINGING VOICE HOLY SHIT

[@riomochaccino2108]

RIGHT, I am so jealous, but like, in the best way

[@SophiaPhannn]

HONESTLY NOT MY BEST WORK but I did it straight after crying 😩

[@user-tk4gr9zo7t]

Gosh I know I was bawling 😭💖

[@justinchambers7454]

@@SophiaPhannn do you have an Instagram?

[@lifemattersnot]

Honestly at the beginning I couldn't tell if the movie audio was playing really solid harmony.

[@quinnschulte9291]

I was raised catholic and my parents encouraged stuff like this because it is a very good lesson on how not to pray. It perfectly shows the good and bad people in our religion and I like love the religious references and Easter eggs as well. It is an amazing movie for any religious or non religious person.

[@renji90998]

Frollo's lust for Esmeralda is even more creepy when find out she's technically 16. Then again this is nothing new going on the walls of the Catholic Church. Also I found out that there are some women, who CLEARLY don't have daddy issues, are actually into Frollo

[@Okay_Is_Wonderful]

What the hellfire? [I mean I believe you, ppl fangirl serial killers 😬] Dude is textbook obsessive, self-righteous, gaslighting, abusive, sadistic, genocidal - run do not walk to therapy

[@TandaSandaBanda]

In the book, yes she was 16. They aged her up to 21 in the movie.

[@isisbeatriz9110]

In the novel, she was 16. In the film, she's supposed to be in her early twenties (Frollo is still a creep of course)

[@kirrilyjoy4790]

I have daddy issues, but Frollo freaks me the heck out! Those people are just a tiny bit WEIRD!!

[@that-possum-guy3209]

@@Okay_Is_Wonderful Yeah, but Frollo also isn't real. It's better if people explore their attraction to that sort of thing with him than with an actual dude who's actually like that.

[@thefirefang1529]

Ngl Frollo has a good singing voice for such a wicked man😐

[@sedij2358]

I love Tony Jay's voice so much! His passing was a tragedy but he gave so much to the entertainment industry that I think we can all appreciate him for it!

[@TandaSandaBanda]

His voice actor was a badass. He knew what was up with Frollo. “His actions are understandable, but not excusable.”

[@TheDancerMacabre]

@@sedij2358 I can't hear Tony Jay's voice without immediately thinking of Megabyte from ReBoot.

[@tbn22]

The reason that the kid at the end touches Quasimodo, is because kids aren't corrupted by the world around them and tend to see past appearances. Having a child do this is such a defining moment of the film. Also, it is believed that the child is Quasimodos reincarnated mother finally reunited with her child (It's just a fan theory, but still quite profound).

[@carlotta4th]

And other people say she's blind. It's just a token of change, I think everyone is looking into it way too much.

[@isabellechurchill1391]

some of the scenes in this movie make me so sad, Quasimodo deserved better:(

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

Well, in the actual story he straight up dies next to Esmerelda's corpse.

[@elisaacampora93]

In the sequel he find a really special friend

[@isabellechurchill1391]

@@blobbertmcblob4888 YO WHAT

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

@@isabellechurchill1391 Yeah he never leaves Esmeralda's body and ends up dying with it :( it's truly heartbreaking.

[@rebeccaanderson5626]

@@RedRoseSeptember22 can you tell me what happens at the end in the novel?

[@eowynsisterdaughter]

As a kid, I also didn't like how Quasi and Esmeralda didn't end up together. As an adult, I can see how important it is to the narrative that she chose someone else because you can then contrast Quasimodo's reaction of being heartbroken but still aiding Esmeralda to Frollo's reaction of wanting to kill everyone and Esmeralda herself when she rejects him.

[@Jonmad17]

I mean, it is depressing that the only major Disney film where the hero doesn't "get the girl" happens to be the one film where that hero isn't traditionally attractive. The film pushes mainstream narratives about the absolute importance of physical beauty.

[@fableSimmer]

Ugh. This movie has the best opening scene/song in Disney, in my opinion. I listen to it all the time on my phone. And yes, these songs always make me tear up. That scene where Frollo is chasing Quasimodo's mother still terrifies me.

[@Kikiouma]

Yes I agree

[@simplymaja8463]

Nah fr it was on my Spotify rewind 💀

[@Bjjbhcoa86]

"SILENCE!" vs "JUSTICE!" is one of my favourite exchanges.

[@aliyahpulido953]

Those two things are often opposites and they always have been, as they continue to be.

[@rockmacher]

Alan Menkin has gone on record and said that The Bells of Notre Dame is his favorite song he’s ever written

[@harpsechord1755]

Y'all, the animation for a 90s Disney Movie--this one specifically--was NEXT LEVEL, and basically predicted the change in animation style that Disney was going to take later on (from 2D into 3D). Throw on the absolutely BANGING soundtrack for the movie, hell YES.

[@xragdoll5662]

Predicted? They did a 3D movie before this movie and used 3D in the sequence of wildebeests during the stampede in the lion king

[@rhiannonfisher2792]

I was going to Paris in 2019 and I was so excited to listen to “God Help the Outcasts” and wander around Norte Dam and then it freaking burned down lol. Love this movie.

[@SophiaPhannn]

OMG RIP LOL. I was in Paris in 2018, but my group didn't wanna visit the Notre Dame because of lack of time 😩

[@MissCaraMint]

I was lucky enough that I got to spend Christmas 2018 in Paris. We went to Midnight Mass in the Notre Dame. It was special then, but even more so now. I can't believe it burned.

[@MadameTamma]

Interesting fact about the Hunchback of Notre dame novel. Victor Hugo originally wrote it because as a fan of history and architecture he absolutely LOVED the building but at the time it was in rough shape. It was already hundreds of years old and barely standing due to all the revolutions. In the book he stopped the story dead in its tracks more than once to go on chapter long spiels about the building. The original message of the book wasn't really about 'helping the outcasts' it was a plea to the people to preserve it as an important landmark. It was extremely sad that The church caught fire, but the fact that within mere days after the event, it received more than enough donations from around the world to rebuild it by people who do see and understand it as an important landmark in French history would absolutely make Victor Hugo's heart soar with happiness.

[@MissCaraMint]

@@MadameTamma Yes I had heard this. I really do have to read that book. I did the abridged version as a kid, but they must have cut put all the stuff about the Cathedral. Too bad.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

@@MadameTamma The great thing is that because of the fire, several churches in American which had been burned by racists received tons of donations, far more than they would have without people feeling pity from the Notre Dame fire.

[@v0dka885]

The original book was actually much darker. also if he was still alive today, Allen Rickman would have been perfect for Judge Claude Frollo if they made a live-action version

[@luiszam177]

I definitely agree that Rickman should be Frollo, if he’s alive, since he played the Judge from Sweeney Todd

[@aliyahpulido953]

RIP to Mr. Rickman and to Professor Snape!

[@Awoo_San]

He plays the judge in Sweeny Todd and he's pretty darn close to Frollo imo! Proof he would have done an amazing job. His singing voice is incredible too!

[@KarenEstepa]

Alan*.

[@RecklessADHD]

The moment Quasimodo broke those pillars reminds me of Samson from the Bible: Samson was born in the village of Zorah. As he grew up, he became a man of almost superhuman strength. Once, while visiting a Philistine girl from the village of Timnah, he killed a lion with his bare hands. Samson wanted to marry the girl, despite his parents’ misgivings about their son marrying outside his tribe. Samson persisted and staged a great wedding feast, but it ended with a violent fight. The bride was married to someone else (Judges 14:19-20). Samson’s weakness for beautiful Philistine women soon drove him into the arms of Delilah. The Philistines offered her a large sum of money if she could discover the source of Samson’s strength. Samson, suspecting what was afoot, fed her several false leads, frustrating the Philistine plots. At long last, Delilah demanded that he reveal the secret. Samson confessed that he would lose his strength “if my head were shaved” (Judges 16:15- 17). While he slept, the faithless Delilah brought in a Philistine who cut Samson’s hair, draining his strength. The Philistines took him prisoner, gouged out his eyes, and forced him to work as a draft animal, turning a mill in a Gaza prison. Samson’s hair gradually grew back. One day, the Philistines held a ceremony in their temple devoted to the god Dagon. The assembly clamored to see Samson, and so he was brought out and tied between two pillars. As the crowd around him jeered, Samson prayed to God for a restoration of his powers, “only this once.” God granted his request; Samson pushed the pillars and brought down the temple roof, killing all those inside, including himself (Judges 16:30).

[@Darkpara1]

Except he didn't go on a massacre because someone "cheated" to answer his stupid riddle that was contextual based on his own personal experience. I love old testament bible stories.

[@RecklessADHD]

@@Darkpara1 What are you talking about??

[@Darkpara1]

@Dani Reu the story of Samson. The riddle he asked the wedding guests to solve was basically impossible through deductive reasoning, given the answer was based on a person experience. "Out of the eater came something to eat, and out of the strong came something sweet." Samson got pissed off and went on a massacre because of it.

[@RecklessADHD]

@@Darkpara1 Lol it's like asking "What's in my pocket?" as a riddle. Tbf, the entire story between him and the philistines is messed up. They all seemed to be violent people with cruel tendencies, including Samson. After Samson set fire to their fields, they burned his wife and father-in-law to death. A lot happened. It doesn't make it right, it's a story.

[@Anxietea045]

As a Catholic I was allowed to watch this movie because sadly this is what some religious leaders would do, they preached in the name of God and burned innocent people, look at Joan of Arc. They believe they are doing God’s work but in reality they were just corrupt leaders. BTW ur voice is angelic 😊

[@jamietiemens1038]

I watched this movie for the first a few week ago and Esmeralda definitely reminded me of Joan of Arc

[@broadwaybrook2319]

In Ireland (from seeing "Philomena"), nuns would give away children of unwed mothers for adoption without telling the moms cause they thought it was righteous to do so. Another example of religious leaders who think they're doing God's work

[@rebeccagibbs4128]

fun fact, during the making of The Lion King they accidentally discovered a technique that makes it look like the viewer is seeing heat distortion. They went on to use it heavily in this film, to great effect! Mistakes are awesome, folks:)

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

The juxtaposition of heaven’s light and the Catholic prayer to hell fire is incredible. They are able to display the themes of the film and the important qualities of the characters in a short period of time. It also shows the beauty and humanity at the beginning and the horrific world that frollo is in hell fire. The animation, I do not have the technical knowledge to explain it, just leaves me speechless.

[@JoseLuisGarcia9540]

2:05 About this, you are right. Frollo in the novel is a priest (the archdeacon of Notre Dame), not a judge.

[@scribblemeeps]

I felt like it was a nice addition to the movie of separating two versions of the people in Catholic Churches, how there is the good and evil. Sadly more people like to label the church by the evil people who give those who do have good intentions a bad name.

[@sedij2358]

@@scribblemeeps The church during the era that this movie takes place in was very corrupt though. What this movie does get right was the power struggle and the general dislike between the church and government.

[@scribblemeeps]

@@sedij2358 true

[@TKZells16]

Yeah Disney at the time didn’t have the balls to straight up go after the church the way other media did like Golden Compass. So that’s why they made Frollo a judge instead. Though now it becomes a criticism on the corruption in government and the justice system

[@jos-josradvanji6203]

@@scribblemeeps All I ever see from the church is them asking for money, all I ever hear from priests is them doing horrible things to boys and not a single time have I heard that it helped or did anything for anyone. So I kind of understand why people only think bad of it.

[@Raindropfurry]

not ME tearing up at your singing voice .. . you literally sound like an angel omfg

[@inconveniencestore_]

I was born intersex and with a few interesting traits, I was told I wasn't allowed in my church as a child because they thought I looked like a demon due to my sharp teeth and eyes with yellow in them. People made me think I was a horrible, stupid monster. I even had a habit of growling at people when I felt cornered. I've kind of adopted the label of monster now that I'm an adult and no longer in that situation, and I don't feel the need for any church to accept me. This movie will always make me tear up, I feel so heavily for quasimodo.

[@Huh9631]

Genuinely asking: do u actually have sharp teeth a yellow in ur eyes? Is it because ur intersex? Also I’m sorry u went through that, im Christian and I’ve noticed a lot of Christians out there rly can’t grasp that not everyone was made the same. They think god made everyone the same, which isn’t true

[@inconveniencestore_]

@chickensoup9631 I do and it's not because I'm intersex, I just happen to look odd. I assume some of it was due to me being born early and stuff not fully developing or something to that end but other than that I've not a clue why I am the way that I am.

[@XxMidnightxX-cp9iu]

@@inconveniencestore_i would accept you, in the Bible, Jesus loves everyone.

[@redwarriorstudios6077]

I loved this movie, I personally think it’s one the best Disney animated movies of all time. Is it perfect no. The cgi for buildings in the background held up really well, but for people in the background they do not hold up. And there’s the gargoyles you either like, dislike, or hate them. Fun fact: The song Hellfire was the last Disney villain song until princess and the frog. Another underrated masterpiece The Lego Movie, I know what thinking but it is actually very misjudged because it’s “a lego movie”.

[@anib8863]

I love the Lego movie, it's a fun watch.

[@blitzgirl6522]

In the book, Frollo was a member of the church, but of course Disney didn't want to cause any controversy so they changed him to be a judge for the movie. As an adult, I really appreciate the fact that Quasimodo didn't "get the girl". In fact, this is the type of movie that just gets better as the years go by.

[@lesliejames9619]

I believe the most beautiful part of this is the acceptance of himself in the end. It shows that even though you may not be the most beautiful in the world, there is beauty to be seen within yourself.

[@renji90998]

For those that don't know: the reason Romanians were called gypsies is because people believed that their country of origin was from Egypt. Like how Native Americans were called Indians.

[@TandaSandaBanda]

Romanians are actually what you would call people from Romania. The Romani are the people you see in this movie.

[@bthsr7113]

I wish I could say that surprised me, but these kinds of mistakes are hardly the worst things that have happened.

[@sushi7309]

Romanians =/= romani or roma people.

[@eneritzian]

As a Spanish gypsy, I would say that the real origin of the gypsy people is uncertain, some say they come from the Indian, but as it is a nomadic people that exists in different parts of the world, the country of origin is not known for sure. Romani refers to the ancient language that was used since ancient times; in Spain we still use some old words from Calo but we speak Spanish from Spain.

[@laoorart2715]

And. There is actually many gypsies groups in France. Romanians are not romani. By the way. Romani long lived in romania. But most gypsies consider the earth their home and not a country specifically. There is many " groups " with differents cultures : tsiganes: romanès from romania and romanès from Bulgaria /yougoslavia region, gitanos, Manouche, gypsies, travelers etc. It's *believed* that tsiganes came from India originally but like thousands years ago, and gypsies where mistaken for Egyptians. Thus the terminology gypsies/gitanos. As we are in France romanès and gitanos should be the mains one in the film. They oftenly mix their religion with practices from where they've been. And depending on the time and place they were, they could be seen as nobles, merchants or non-human beings 😬. End of history lessons missing in class.

[@SpiderandMosquito]

My personal thought on the gargoyles is that they run on Calvin and Hobbes rules. Hobbes' existence depends on perspective he's neither a toy that comes to life nor an imaginary friend; Calvin perceives Hobbes as a living creature while others see a stuffed animal. That's not exactly the case here, there's a bit more self awareness from Quasi, he does seem to be aware that they're only statues but at the same time they do have a level of interaction with the outside world if only very limited. I guess I don't want to read too deep into it, it's way more satisfying to keep their existence ambiguous

[@renji90998]

If the gargoyles are part of Quasimodo's imagination, then what's up with the goat love?

[@artsysabs]

@@renji90998 and the goat can see the gargoyle move. I wish it was just in his imagination but I'm not sure that's the case because of that quick interaction

[@allisonfisher9304]

This movie is a masterpiece of music and portraying human suffering at the hands of authority. Idk what the heck came over Disney to think it was a good story to put out, but omg, I’m so glad they did. This entire score gives me goosebumps, there’s so much power in the themes and songs….

[@gianibarrola5064]

Well I'm not surprised Ciara Renee sang God Help the Outcasts, she played Esmerelda in the (canceled) stage adaptation of this movie.

[@broadwaybrook2319]

She did a great job, it's sad that Hunchback of Notre Dame on Broadway didn't become a bigger deal

[@KaiKinapela]

Please watch and react to the (almost) Broadway version of this. You can see Ciara Renee as Esmeralda and sing some other other AMAZING songs. My personal faves are Top of the World, Rhythm of the Tambourine, and Someday.

[@nicoleghezzi822]

honestly, this is an underrated masterpiece, the soundtrack is just pure heaven, the animation is amazing and the message it holds is also meaningful... I just love it so much urghhhhh

[@sedij2358]

This is my favorite Disney musical, but it does have its issues as far as tone and story goes. I do agree the music fukin slaps though (except for A Guy Like You, that song is the true villain of this movie) and I love it.

[@meba444]

In the original story, Frollo is the archdeacon of the church. But Disney didn’t want to deal with that, so they decided to make him a judge and separate from the Church. I highly recommend watching the most recent musical adaptation (or listening to the soundtrack). They give you more insight into everyone’s backgrounds, but Frollo’s is what really makes it a drastically different story. This is the play where Ciara Renee plays Esmeralda.

[@joshualowe959]

6:04 Frollo: the original Mother Gothel. Both he and Gothel teach that the world is cruel and keep their slaves locked up in a tower.

[@Danisachan]

They are also the perfect examples of gaslighting villains. The most perfect examples even. They appear to want to help but they only destroy the self-worth of their charges, nurture their fears and insecurities and all just to benefit from them. Truly the worst kind of relationship there could ever be between a "parent" and a child.

[@starrsmith3810]

Also gas lighters

[@happybunnyntx]

From a Catholic household and, yes I was allowed to watch this growing up. My mom thought it was a good lesson that not everyone is good just because they go to church. I was told I, "would have times where you will have to use your own judgement to decide whether someone is good to be around or not. If it's someone bad then you need to stay away from them and tell us about it."

[@tanglewoodtree96]

this movie shaped my entire life. i’m an avid lover of classic literature, a choir performer, and an activist because of this film. i watch it frequently, even as an adult. unrelated, but Quasi was my first ever crush and i still absolutely love him. he’s such a sweet man, how could ya not love him!

[@GallifrAngel]

As someone raised Catholic: yes I was allowed to watch this, in fact it was one of my mom's favorites (because she's also a Latin teacher, so the Gregorian Chanting in the background was exciting to her). Again, important to note that Frollo was a judge, so not *technically* affiliated with the church (although in those days everything was pretty interconnected I think).

[@candy1209]

In the books he is a part of the church, he is a priest.

[@kenza668]

"THE FRENCH ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE GOOD AT! RIOTING!" As a French person myself : We are f ing good at this XD Love u from Notre Dame de Paris

[@SuperMonaLisaBros]

Me: *Laughs in American*

[@Labinzel]

@@SuperMonaLisaBros Dude half of the reason the American revolution succeeded was because England had years war debts and was also engaged in conflict WITH FRANCE. Who also, you know, where our allies during the war...

[@theluminaryofthestars4181]

Fun Fact: Anger apparently makes you stronger, so combined with Quasimodo’s strength after ringing the bells of Notre Dame, he must’ve been hella strong if he broke those chains when Esmeralda was getting burnt.

[@deserthawk0194]

Frollo traumatised me as a child. He is without a doubt my most feared disney villain

[@broadwaybrook2319]

Not having grown up watching this movie, the Shadow Man always scared me

[@VictorGarcia-mn4px]

for what i've seen, the g word being a slur depends of the types of roma people, some don't mind the word while others think is a slur. here in spain the andalusian gypsies have claimed that word, "gitano" in spanish, and they use it all the time, along with their own word, calé, for example! not sure about french ones tho!! btw, i've always thought of esmeralda as andalusian, even since i was a kid lol

[@NilahLach]

In my country, the word Gypsies are just another word that means a way of living. They are a people. *shrug*

[@harrysonofbob]

The way its been told to me is that it's similar to calling native Americans "Indians". Not necessarily a slur, but some find it insulting or old fashioned. Also, like the term Indian, it has a confused and incorrect origin. gypsy meant "from Egypt", because Europeans through they came from Egypt, but they didn't. They came from India or persia.

[@justarandompeep8945]

It sucks because I realize the reason so many Americans don’t know how to call a certain other people accurately is because our education system doesn’t properly teach us about other cultures and nationalities.

[@VictorGarcia-mn4px]

@@harrysonofbob ooooh didn't know the etymology of the word, very interesting!!

[@NilahLach]

@@justarandompeep8945 I'm not from America and we don't see the word Gypsy as a slur. (shruuggg)

[@jennymartinez418]

One of my favorite feminine characteristics is shown in this video. The deep compassion and empathy women carry, ..is so empowering. She literally started CRYING at the cruelty Quasi received. We want only love & peace. So sweet 💖

[@baridapdoowiwuga3299]

Although I appreciate the sentiment and women are fucking beautiful fantastic creatures (I'm a woman for ref) but this certainly isn't just a feminine trait - it's human empathy. Watch 'I am Special Ed' review this movie, he also bout tears up at Quasimodo's treatment.

[@thatbooknerdoverthere7899]

yeah bc ofc men don't carry compassion... Gotta love this sexism towards men

[@TheBlackAntagonist]

-_-

[@Vexarax]

what I like is that she is facing brutal oppression (the Romani people suffered horrifically) and is forced to sell her body to survive etc, yet continues to fight for what she believes in no matter what. Everyone always goes on about Merida being the first Disney princess with real agency, but Esmeralda is always left out when arguably she represents actual genuine strength and agency moreso than any other Disney female before or since (aside from Pocahontas but Disney did her dirty)

[@silvergust]

@@Vexarax i think they say that bc esmeralda isn't really considered a part of the disney princess line (i think she was at one point, but isn't as of right now) but i agree

[@kayladt25]

A good explanation for Quasi not ending up with Esmeralda is how he views her. There is a reason the song “Heavens light” and “Hellfire” are back to back and paired together on the official soundtrack. Both Quasi and Frollo have a toxic and unhealthy attraction to Esmeralda. Frollos is more obvious as he views her as this unclean temptation that will lead him and her to hell. People don’t really notice Quasis attraction cause the views it as romantic, but in Heavens light he constantly refers to her as an angel above him that he is undeserving of. He has placed her on an inhumane pedestal that he can’t even reach. Not only that but how valid is his love? She was only the first person to be nice to him, not much suggests compatibility outside of that. Phoebus on the other hand while I don’t personally care about him is the only one to just view her as a person, not this symbol of heaven or hell but a woman. Idk just my take on it

[@ProfessorUniverse95]

I fricking love Hunchback! It's on par with A Goofy Movie, Hercules, Aladdin, The Lion King and The Princess and the Frog

[@J1ntu]

Ikr! I watched this video about A Goofy Movie and it changed my entire perspective on it

[@JoseLuisGarcia9540]

@@J1ntu Sideways, maybe?

[@J1ntu]

@@JoseLuisGarcia9540 Yeah then my mom reminded me that we talked about that years ago!

[@beminae1603]

I was thinking Atlantis too

[@beminae1603]

And Hercules

[@parnaz1623]

I love this movie so much. It saved me at a really dark time in my life when I was being emotionally abused by someone. I felt trapped and in a lot of ways I related to quasimodo. It doesn't matter if he didn't get the girl at the end because this story is about quasi defeating his abuser and liberating himself and of course, finding friends along the way!

[@Zeul28]

Same reason why I didn't watch this when it came out. But watching it as an adult, man it's a masterpiece! Sophia, try Fern Gully. I'm sure you'll love it!

[@0Magicallywild0]

Yes!! I second this!!!

[@Haley0822]

Also the secret of nimh!

[@lanagievski1540]

Yes!

[@marinaliteyears]

🤤 Tim Curry's voice..

[@Neevkl_7]

Fun fact, even other shows did Quasi dirty. In house of mouse Jimmeny Cricket is singing a song and at one point it goes “maybe you’ll meet someone special” *pans over to Quasi* “maybe ya won’t”

[@TheTroutyness]

Because ableism is funny af :T. Asses as usual.

[@noisycthulhu]

My favorite animated movie then and now. So good. So many layers. The songs! The art! THE VOICE ACTORS. UNF. The Best. 1000% 👍

[@lilscenechick1995]

This is among my top favorite Disney films. Depicting the evil side of Catholicism (religious extremism and theocratic dominion), and the empowerment of women being among the strongest themes. I had such a crush on Esmeralda, and I did love Quasi. Can we also talk about the wholesome masculinity? Phoebus and Quasi both exhibit it and it's the best. This movie aged like wine.

[@Garland41]

If Disney does there stupid stuff with Live Action remakes to this film, then they really need to leave out the gargoyles. They are the worst part of this film.... besides they're really bad portrayal of the Romani (I believe Romani is the correct, non-slurred name, that is Gypsy is a slur).

[@ajmalaika1287]

Yh they changed them in the stage version into the saints giving Quasi advise and no unesscary puns. i love the stage version SO MUCH!

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

To be fair the animators didn't want the gargoyles either. They were forced in to make the movie "lighter" by Disney.

[@ilike2365]

@@Alphasnowbordergirl aww man it could’ve been so much better… where did you hear or read about this btw?

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

@@ilike2365 I don't remember. I've watched quite a few things over the years. I also remember the marketing problem disney had over the movie, marketing as something much lighter than it was, causing backlash and angry parents becase Disney sold the movie as something different than it was. They believe it would have been more successful if Disney had marketed it appropriately. Similarly to how Bridge to Terabithia was sold as a similar movie to Narnia rather than a drama.

[@ilike2365]

@@Alphasnowbordergirl oh yeah they marketed it pretty dirty. I guess they were scared to give it a PG rating because of what happened in The Black Cauldron’s box office failure. I personally don’t find the gargoyles that bad (except for Hugo he’s just unpleasant) but I wish they would just tone down the comedic slapstick. Also regarding Bridge to Terabithia, I was expecting something fun and adventurous but I ended up crying at the end lmao

[@melindaropp8622]

Fun fact: the woman who sang God Help the Outcasts in the Broadway Princess Party, Cierra Renee, also originated the role of Esmerelda in the musical The Hunchback Of Notre Dame. You should listen to the soundtrack, it is one of the best scores I've ever heard.

[@rachelhamilton8669]

IKR?! The way she belts out “I ask for nothing!” after the ensemble sings their selfish prayers is just. CHILLS.

[@RainbowStary88]

​@@rachelhamilton8669 IKR

[@JoseLuisGarcia9540]

14:50 I'll leave this here for Sophia's gorgeous cover!

[@Jason-ir5ig]

I was raised Catholic, and my parents had no issues with this movie. The only shows that were ever off limits for me were like adult swim shows like south park and family guy.

[@AngelinaParker]

Sophia, your singing voice brought tears to my eyes!!! Your singing voice is so beautiful!!!

[@Cat-nb5qs]

The funny thing is that in the book and in the stage production of the musical (which SLAPS by the way) Frollo actually DOES have a high position in the church and IS the archdeacon, so technically baby Sophia was right the whole time.

[@Roseglassgoth]

It’s always funny that maleficent is known as the evilest of them all, But look at what this guy has done He’s nothing compared to the evil queen, Ursula, Jafar, The stepmother, and the list goes on,

[@broadwaybrook2319]

Maleficent may have cursed a baby princess, but Frollo wanted to drown a baby after killing his mom and tried to burn an innocent girl at the stake

[@Vampirelilianfitzroy]

Okay but I still stand by the fact that Cruella wanting to blatantly murder 99 PUPPIES all for a coat is at least top three most evil

[@karladiaz2044]

As someone who is Christian and raised in a house that was relatively religious, I was taught to never assume, or group in people because of their religion, race and ethnicity. In fact my father. a non practicing Catholic, hated the church and considered them a scam for the most part. He said nobody needed to hear him preach his beliefs and sins, it was between him and God. My parents always said that people can be bad regardless of their religion… and that a bad seed is just a bad seed and not a grouping of a whole.

[@isabellechurchill1391]

esmerelda is the original baddie, also sophia girl you look so pretty today

[@SophiaPhannn]

Hehe thank you