I’ve Owned My Used Polestar 2 Performance Pack For 6 Months! Here's How It’s Going

Max gives a 6-month ownership update on his Polestar 2 with Performance, Pilot, and Plus that he picked up as a certified pre-owned.
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0:00 Hello and Welcome
1:59 My Spec
5:57 Why Not A Tesla
7:52 Range and Charging
9:51 Interior
11:48 Technology and Software
17:15 Tires and Maintenance
20:21 Liftgate and Frunk
22:02 Used vs New Value
24:16 Driving Impressions
26:39 Driving Assist
29:05 Ride Quality
30:46 The Center Console Issue
33:56 Final Thoughts

[@willyjohnson3727]

Great presentation Max👍🏽 We love ours we put almost 30,000 miles now (got it last June) used it almost daily and love it. Best car we ever had and very reliable.

[@ricric9521]

One of the better reviews I've seen. I like it very much. The clearness, no-nonsense, and unbiased nature are all good. I like the Polestar because it doesn't try too hard to look like a futuristic EV. It has a traditional maybe hotrod look. I like my M3 LR swoopy lines even with the duck bill grill. I lowered it with H&R springs and 19 TSW wheels to differentiate its looks. Tesla's software is king. Those related features are awesome. The efficiency is awesome. They are able to increase efficiency through ATR updates which is amazing. The more you learn about how Teslas are made (gigapress) and the robustness and future readiness of the software, the more you are not surprised by their dominance.

[@kurtybee2]

I got a used 2021 PS2 because of your initial video about your purchase. Your review is very fair. I don’t like the way the Tesla looks. I just wanted an EV that looks like a normal car. It is well built and it is good on longer trips. Most people for everyday driving go less than 40 miles. The range is plenty for everyday use. I got over my range anxiety really quick. Also I do not miss having to go to the gas station every week, especially during the winter

[@No-More-9to5]

Perfectly said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@ezpoppy55]

Re: sedans v crossover/suv. I’m 68 (aka The Old Man), and I LOVE my ‘21 M3 SR+ ! Like you, I love the handling, the stance, the efficiency, and the appearance. The M3 (and sedans like your polestar) has it all over the big box SUVs. (Full transparency: I used to drive a SUV; we have two teenage boys [who love it!]; my wife has a VW ID.4 PRO., which she loves.) Really enjoy your videos. Safe travels to all! (Edit: While I’m sure it’s mostly true that EVs are significantly heavier than the ICE counterparts, it’s not always. I compare my M3 with the ‘21 BMW 330i RWD, as that car specs out very similar in price, size, features, etc. Weight: T 3,648 lbs B 3,582 lbs An insignificant difference. Also, I got 38k miles on my stock Michelins, and I consider a good portion of my driving to be spirited. I just put on a new set of Nokia ONE tyres. So far, 600 miles in, I’m very happy with them!)

[@ScottLeapman]

I bought the exact same model year, color and configuration minus the Performance Pack back in April 2021. At the time, I got it for 0% APR and paid full price but was able to get the $7,500 back on my taxes. I completely agree with everything said - while the car isn't a charging monster and doesn't have the longest range, it is a BLAST to drive (especially in AWD with the Performance Software Update) and meets every need I had. In fact, in the 2.5 years of ownership, I have not once needed to charge away from home. IMHO, the TM3 may be a good car, but it is as bland and common as a Camry (for deserved reasons) and I wanted something different. As for the cupholder issue - I just 3D-printed one that hangs off the glove box. Yeah, you shouldn't need to do that, but it was a cheap and easy fix for a small problem in an otherwise great car.

[@kiburebuc]

Bought a used 2021 Polestar 2 with Plus, Pilot, and Leather a little over 6 months ago and put 7700 miles on it since. And I've been using the portable charger at home on a regular outlet! I've gone camping a few times and done road-trips. The OEM Thule roof bars are great and I've used them to haul canoes, mountain bikes, and camping gear so I definitely recommend them. 1300 miles into one road-trip, the car got a airbag malfunction error so I had to leave it with the Polestar dealer there and that was a hassle but otherwise I've had 0 problems with it. I really like how the car handles without the Performance pack and I'm worried I'll get jealous if I ever get to drive one with it lol. Polestar, dog and camp mode please!!

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Polestar 2 is so sweet as it has the right charge door location, should be able to backup to any Tesla Supercharger that offers Magic dock or with your own NACS adaptor to participating Tesla charger! Koodoos!

[@windowman9665]

I’m locked in at 6.99% for my polestar 3. I’m just paying it off in full day of pick up. My line of credit is like 4%. So pay it off with that, and make my monthly payments or whatever. Great review. Out of spec is awesome. All aspects of it. You guys really care. You can see the love and passion you all have for the electric car revolution

[@TuomasLeone]

Nice review, I'm just over 1500 miles in a 2024 LRSM and absolutely loving it so far. I had a 2019 Model 3 SMLR and this is, for me, a far far better car. From build quality to interior livability to driving experience, I just find this car much more a well rounded experience. Soon even the CCS road trip charging experience won't even be an issue. Highly recommended.

[@robertmitchell9276]

Good the hear. Got rear ended in my 2019 SR+ awaiting 2024 LRSM with Plus.

[@No-More-9to5]

Perfectly said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@gerardvandenberg1841]

As an owner of the 2019 launch version Polestar 2 Performance AWD in Sweden and running it for 113,854 km or 70,745 miles, I'm still loving it! It feels like it's still new. It is powerful, steers like a sports car and performs on the many dirt roads we have in this area as if on smooth asphalt. My wifes Volvo XC40 Recharge SM has about half the power and is the boxy SUV-shape she loves more. Both cars are basicly the same platform, but I like the Polestar more for its sporty character.

[@dougmanck4149]

What a great choice at a great price. Love that model

[@carolinebray82]

18:41 don't forget that blinker fluid !! 😉

[@iMaxPatten]

😂

[@chycoll]

Max, love the Channel. You're reasons for purchasing a "Non Tesla" were extremely similar to mine (Ev6 in lieu of Model Y). I Can't wait till Q3 2024 when the Tesla Superchargers open up to Hyundai Motor Co. I just hope they get more than 43kw by that time.

[@vaadwuar]

I got myself an aftermarket key fob casing. Really really good quality.

[@laloajuria4678]

this was prob the best vid of yours max. great work.

[@MLyricEntertainment]

Just got me a 2021 launch edition as well. Such a nice car. Speedy when you want it. Cruise smooth when you're relaxed. Hell of a car

[@godofdun]

We love our 2023 and are very glad we leased! Was a great deal as they were pushing those end of year numbers last year and aren't exposed to the crazy depreciation. In a couple of years once interest rates are hopefully back down these will really be a steal on the used market again!

[@thenetworkarchitectchannel]

I recently too did a Polestar vid on my chan. I added this review of the brand to the description link of the one I did. Thx for taking the time to do it. Polestar is an under represented brand, I feel. I enjoyed watching.

[@jenesuispasbavard]

Ayyy, certified pre-owned Polestar gang. I've had my 2022 dual motor for two months now and loving every second. Now I wish I'd got the ventilated seats ;_;. Oh well, time to drown my sorrows with the performance software upgrade.

[@cn9047]

Awesome review! Great interior and exterior colors! I like my 2022 non- performance Dual motor P2, my wife and I are hoping to upgrade to the Polestar 3 and she’ll drive the P2. I love almost everything about it. Comfortable but firm ride, love the textures and interior details. I went with Void/ Black, charcoal weave tech. I used to switch my summer and winter tires every season but I’m getting all-season tires next month. 😂

[@radman999]

Fair review. I don't see the hate for the weavetech seats. They fine and you can clean them very easily.

[@georgesoto5436]

Good, fair review, I was at the Bellevue Mall in Bellevue WA, and they showed me a short list of some these used cars, like the one being shown here. After watching this video I’m going to wait. Thanks!

[@mikedsjr]

I love your channel and the entire out of spec network. I love how yall stay very fair between all cars. I do understand as a EV reviewer it’s hard going from polestar/tesla to another which has a push button. It seems as if a new EV owner isn’t going to have that issue.

[@ninoivan82]

Excellent review! Thank you!

[@Mr-eGolf]

You have really gotten better by being on camera more. It flows nicely!

[@RD-ce6bb]

Great review thanks👍

[@Stan-at-KangarooIslandTV]

Hey Max! Great review that I enjoyed watching for two reasons. My brand new MY24 RWD P2 with Pilot arrives next week, and also I graduated with a journalism degree from CU Boulder in the mid 1990s and my first career job was at the Loveland Reporter Herald newspaper. Back then I spent all my spare time in the mountains fly fishing and camping in my full-size Bronco, my first car. Fast forward 30 years and I am on Kangaroo Island and am getting my first EV, and chose the P2 for the exact same reasons as you, but for me range and RWD of the update were the tipping point, plus I was ready to take the plunge. I did get a 7kw solar system/Tesla Powerwall last week too, so there’s that. Interesting thing about the new Polestar in Australia is our dual motor does get the new battery/inverter, also we get the Pixel headlights with the Pilot. I chose not to get Plus, for savings, and also because of our hot climate, I like the idea of having a cocoon without the sunroof and didn’t want/need the heat pump or heated back seats etc. I probably will miss the HK stereo, but oh well. This is the most car I’ve ever owned, all my previous three vehicles been pick-up trucks, other than that Bronco and that was very basic! I did get the towbar package and that actually held my delivery up to two weeks as the MY24 needed a new module shipped in from Sweden to make it work. It now works but the ferry company quoted Polestar $4000 for the car carrier to come over from the mainland to do the home delivery. Now I wait and track the VIN as it makes way over from Melbourne to Adelaide. So close!

[@smedsasen]

Just love the looks of it !

[@milesyounghamilton]

I have an MY23, over the moon with the car. Very high quality and love the drive

[@lilflaco408]

I bought a use 2021 Launch Edition in thunder about 6 months now & dam I love this car, done 1 track day, lots of mountain runs & it handles amazing. Fell in love at the dealers & the yellow selt belts really got me 😅 Also in the trunk you have a grocery holder in the middle.

[@PhilT993]

Good job there, Max.

[@ianjapal5377]

Polestars are a head tuner! Your car looks amazing!

[@benjaminsmith2287]

Review is solid. Thank you. Polestar is a pretty well established outfit. If you know Volvos, Volvo has had the same gold seatbelt, gold brake calipers, manual Ohlins dampers in the XC60 and s60 Polestars that are in this car. And also, so much of the car is Volvo, the seats, the materials. Volvo even designed this car as Polestar personnel design starts with the Polestar 3. But all of those designers are ex-Volvo designers. People get confused and think well, it's in the Geely group and such so that's why they are similar but Polestar and Volvo are the close brands. A brand like Zeekr or Lotus doesn't share so much most of the time (except Polestar 4 is more based on a Zeekr than Volvo, but it is the exception--yet that still uses Volvo materials). So, I'm basically saying this is a sporty Volvo. Polestar is a spinoff from Volvo and shares so many Volvo characteristics in terms of body structure feel and ride quality and such. It feels like a Volvo. If you like that European, yes European, feel, as the Chinese purchase hasn't changed the content of Volvo and where they are created/engineered/designed and such, then Polestar feels familiar. Tech, well, that's not the focus. I don't really care that much about driver's assist. The thing I like about driving is steering around corners. If anything, I wished the car could automate the stop and go drudgery of driving. But, that's not the car's forte. Efficiency, never has been a Volvo forte. Solidity, though, and comfort and such, yes. As for the console, that's just a weird design decision by Polestar (which they've totally fixed in the Polestar 3). The XC40 Recharge (BEV) version does not have this issue. As for the back, this is a 4 passenger car. Even if it had a flat floor 5 passengers, 3 in the back, would not be good for longer trips.

[@fredlabonte8946]

Chinese product is good today ?? what about water leak inside like a pool ? what about underneath rust ? i have a 2022 electric Volvo with lot of problem i change the battery under warranty new in the box MADE IN CHINA and now the electric motor is very noisy , back order from China all parts broke one after other next time i will buy a Chines car at half price

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@fredlabonte8946 Blah blah blah. You think everyone has the same issues you have? Why not survey Polestar users and see who has problems and don't. Everything boils down to China, a very simplistic way to explain the issues with your car. Cars totally built in Sweden, Germany and the USA also have big issues as well. Tired of your whining.

[@fredlabonte8946]

you have time to write ? so* of a bi** ?

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@fredlabonte8946 This is a Swedish product. It's assembled in China. Its design and engineering started as the Volvo Concept 40.2. So maybe stop blaming problems with your car on China as well as stop posting the same thing over and over on Volvo and Polestar products. Maybe your car is a lemon. I don't know, But there are a lot of satisfied Volvo c40, XC40 and Polestar 2 owners that don't call their cars "junk."

[@berthogendoorn2133]

I am getting my Michelin Cross-climate 2 for my Tesla Model Y, I have a set mounted to my Fastwheels EV01+ wheels which was for my 2023 Ioniq 5 but Michelin CC2 are 245/R50-20 which are 1/2" too tall and they just slightly rub on the top of the front suspension cradle. The wheels work on both the Ioniq 5 & Tesla Model Y same bolt pattern, same offset but I needed adaptors for the slightly different hub size. I have a set of Michelin Cross-climate 2 235/R40-20 which practically has the same wheel diameter as the 20" just missing it by 0.3" comparing the Tesla wheels & Pro-pilot OEM tires overall diameter. Love the Cross-climate had them on my 2019 Soul EV great tires for the Pacific Northwest especially for our BC Canada high mountain passes that require 3 mount peak / snow rated tire from Oct 1st to May 1st. I love the Polestar 2 but the seat ingress and egress is too low for my 60's plus knees!

[@andreasl4507]

Polestar the best on planet earth.

[@davidtrimble4742]

Great review - would have loved to hear about fast charging experiences and impressions on use in city or country. Is it lively and fun in urban settings? That is my concern about picking up a used eTron. Kyle waxes poetic about it being a great road tripper, but will it feel like a barge around a city? I am in the market for a used EV in the 35k range and there seem to be a lot of stark tradeoffs between models at this price point regarding being fun and being a long distance cruiser. I want both. Polestar 2 is an amazing deal used but so is the Audi, iPace and even the EV6 Wind. And, by the way, I want a pony.

[@iliajanikashvili3951]

Hello Max, great review 👌👌 I see you have SOS signal flashing and no LTE internet so I wonder you have the same problem as me or you just don’t have sim cart placed?

[@NathanWind99]

The 2024 P2 ticks every box for what I want in my next car. Just one worry: that giant center console. I feel like it would be too cramped and irritating to have my knee against the console all the time.

[@keenbean0513]

Excited to pick mine up tomorrow. Im scared about EV but excited. Im getting the jupiter color.....same as the moon. Not excited at the color vut we will see

[@JDDevice]

Wow🤯! I thought my 4% finance was insane here in Canada. Historically, 1.99% was a good rate, so I thought I was getting shafted. But hearing what you guys are dealing with in the states I won't complain. 😅 just remembered you said used. Never mind. Used rates always a lil ridiculous

[@scottwood646]

You compared the 1 pedal driving experience to other cars. I have not experienced a lot of different cars but I think my 2023 Bolt EUV works very well for 1 pedal driving. How would you rate it. Noticed that you didn't talk about the Bolt

[@opal.digital]

Nice review! I'm waiting on a Polestar 2 (2023 - Pre owned) to be delivered this week. Similar approach to you, I've bagged all the 3-packs which is £20k + cheaper than going brand new with only 6,000 miles. Given the steep value drop for new EV's - combined that their struggle to shift stock in the current climate - going "pre-owned" is 100% the way forward. Plus I'm not a fan of the newly designed front grill, nowhere as nice compared to previous models. Polestar - best designed EV in the market. Tesla - visually not at the same level.

[@carlfe4891]

This is helpful perspective. I've got a deposit in on a fully optioned EX30, but strongly considering a used P2 instead. P2 has older tech, slightly too large for me, ~$6-8k cheaper, probably nicer build. The engaging drive might be enough to win me over. I fear the EX30 is going to be boring. I'd rather have fun in the corners and confidence when challenged. Fastest Volvo ever 0-60 means nothing if it can't handle in a sporty fashion. P2 speaks to that directly with tunable suspension and brakes.

[@johny1127]

I love the design of this EV. So much nicer than a Tesla Model 3.

[@willbobig]

Hi there - really considering a PS2. I love the brand design and willing to be an early adopter, but my concern is longevity. I understand that there is a 10 year warranty on the battery, but do you have any long term concerns? Would be keeping the vehicle for 10 years and would hate the be holding the bag when/if the battery goes.

[@garrett1144]

They have a good deal on them right now but I'm curious about the seat material. I live in Arizona, and it's very warm. Would the regular seats be uncomfortable during summer?

[@Aizman87]

Much rather have this than any tesla. Teslas look awful but the polestar really looks good!

[@phillyphil1513]

check out Max with not only the Performance Pack (Ohlins/Brembos) but also springing for the 50kW Performance Upgrade.🤙 Misha at the Nurburgring approves this message. 😎

[@jenesuispasbavard]

Actually, did you see a major difference in pedal feel between the 300kW software and 350kW software? I'm considering the performance software upgrade too but the website says it also changes pedal mapping. I've set creep to off, so I do need very gentle pedal response at the very beginning to make parking more convenient with creep off.

[@iMaxPatten]

Yes, it makes the pedal a little more responsive/sensitive at low speeds. Noticeable but not major. If you want quicker acceleration, especially past 45 mph, I'd say go for the upgrade! It hasn't made parking more difficult for me and I also use creep off with One-Pedal on full.

[@jenesuispasbavard]

@@iMaxPatten Perfect, thanks!

[@victorcacho1585]

I almost want to trade my Volvo C40 for a polestar 2

[@cn9047]

My P2 came with OEM MIchelin Primacy 4 summer tires with sound insulation foam and now I’m spoiled. I tried all-season tires without it and the road noise was too much. Max, did you experience this when changing tires? Anyone else experience this?

[@willyjohnson3727]

You should have foam insulation in your tires to reduce the road noises. My Polestar 2 mechanic told me about it now I knew.

[@lyckokaka]

Looking at Polestars website it says that all models except the standard range single motor get the 205kW charging. I've heard Max say in several videos, including this one that the dual motor models on the new p2 only have 150kW charging which just isn't true. At least not here in Sweden. Maybe it's different in the US?

[@outofspecguide]

It is sadly different in the US.

[@matdob7677]

Great stuff Max, but same mistake as your last video (32:40), no Android Auto in the P2, not even wired! A damn shame. Most owners appreciate Automotive but still wish AA would be available in an infotainment made by Google.

[@dantheveganman]

what is your opinon on polestar 2 2021 vs 2022, is it worth geting the 2022 over the 2021 , i know it has a litle bit more range.

[@carlfe4891]

I've been shopping used/CPO P2. If you want all 3 packs, '21 is very easy to find and '22 much harder, influenced by parts shortages from what I hear. '22+ should also have heat pump to help a bit with the range.

[@tkmedia3866]

so many fleet rental cars, these are okay used values at around 30k.

[@tazeat]

6 months and still no 10 percent challenge results, what gives!?

[@iMaxPatten]

We'll try to do with the new 2024 Polestar 2, either LRSM or DM with performance. Riding on non-OE tires also disqualifies my specific car from doing a fair test.

[@TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay]

I just went to Tire Rack and found < $800 for a set of noise reduced tires, $800 -ish for snow peak rated, and $500 -ish for basic all season. Not as special for EVs as mentioned.

[@dennisdrechsler9849]

If you use and like one pedal driving, why would you bother to spend the extra bucks for Brembo brakes? You will never use them plus that option includes suspension that rides hard and those yellow shoulder belts? If your buying new, save the bucks and put it into the tires when they wear out..

[@andrewrae50]

I just bought a 22 Dual Motor with 14,500 miles and one owner for $26,700

[@AlphaOmega333]

Insane deal. I leased a 2023 at full price when COVID was winding down and wish I would have just waited and bought used!!!

[@berthogendoorn2133]

I was hoping 2024 they would have changed the console cup holder issue major flaw, no such luck come on Polestar you know people did not like the single cup holder, literally!

[@karentaylorboone]

Total Agree! As a commuter, I travel with a 40oz tumbler and an 18oz coffee tumbler daily. So a single cup holder is a bummer.

[@dougmanck4149]

All the third parties announcing agreements with Tesla charging say access to 12,000 chargers. Will this be some chargers at all locations?

[@PhilT993]

My understanding is that only V3 and V4 Superchargers will be able to communicate with the CCS cars, at this point

[@777Outrigger]

You're not gonna get as many waves in a P2. 😁 I love that there are lots of other Teslas on the road. You get lots of waves. ..... And there is just no space to put stuff in this car.

[@bobdrago6965]

I have a leased ‘23 PS2 DM . Love it. Also love Teslas, way ahead in many respects. But I wanted a clean sporty vehicle that didn’t invite as much hate or antagonism from the non EV public. Lol. The PS2 is overpriced, so buying a pre owned with the dual packs at 20 to 30% depreciation is a deal. Once my lease is up, I might renew with a 2026 PS2 or maybe take a look what Lexus, BMW, and even the Fiskar offers in 2026. We’ll see what happens with EV development in a few years.

[@grabir01]

Made in China. What could go wrong? Charge an hour to drive an hour. He shows down to 26soc but never posted how many miles he went from what SOC? All we know is that he went from Boulder up the mountains and was still going up when he got to 26soc. This means he never made it to the Continental Divide which would have been around 60 miles or so.

[@tonymcflattie2450]

I buy poostar just so I can turn off 1 pedal

[@TheAegisClaw]

"unconceited" I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[@DAC83]

Love the people moaning about the cup holders. Get a grip it’s a car not a fucking cinema!

[@chuchum3]

you paid too much lol

[@pa60pilot]

Tesla Models 3/Y are simply ugly.

[@fredlabonte8946]

Chinese product is good today ?? what about water leak inside like a pool ? what about underneath rust ? i have a 2022 electric Volvo with lot of problem i change the battery under warranty new in the box MADE IN CHINA and now the electric motor is very noisy , back order from China all parts broke one after other next time i will buy a Chines car at half price

[@Stekopo]

You don't have a 2022 electric Volvo. If you did you would definitely have said the model instead of "electric" so most likely you just made shit up to spew a bit of anti Chinese hate as that is what your post reeks of.

[@fredlabonte8946]

calm down my friend , i have a C40 , all parts graved MADE IN CHINA , you can sleep quite now ?@@Stekopo

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@fredlabonte8946 You just repeat yourself. So what the parts are made in China? It's anti-Chinese crap that you're spewing. You don't think there are problematic cars whose parts are made elsewhere? The C40 is made in Belgium. Volvo's parts are internationally sourced.

[@BA-ht8bg]

Im no tesla fanboy and i have nothing against polestar or any other EVs. Lets be real every new EV is called Tesla killer until they are actually on the road, they try to copy tesla but no car except maybe Lucid has even come close to the efficiency, technology or reliability of Tesla. Yes it had some quality control issues but they are mostly fixed 2019+ models. Im sure tesla is not everyone’s cup of tea or they dont like the owner but nothing has come close to tesla. Polestar may be good a car for first time EV buyers but from my experience once you own a tesla you cant say polestar is good compared to tesla. Good video though.

[@davidditzler2704]

I think the build quality in the Polestar is better than any Tesla I've driven (8 different cars), the Polestar is quieter, has great blended brakes, does the dual maps in gauge+center display better than even the Model S, and gets "real" car things better like turn indicators, steering wheel, horn location, throttle response, etc. It can also can drive like an ICE car and have different profiles saved to the key or PAK. It also has ventilated seats, which you can't get until you move up to the Model S, or wait for the refresh. Autopilot is better on the Tesla, but the Polestar is smoother at start and stops and modulating speed under adaptive cruise control. A year ago, the price of these compared to a Tesla was pretty close. Now, a new Tesla M3/MY is closer to the price of a used Polestar 2. On paper, the Tesla is a better car value, but IMO is not a better car. I'm glad both brands exist, and I hate to think where we would be without Elon and Tesla moving this forward.

[@BA-ht8bg]

@@davidditzler2704 Wow 8 different teslas, nicee!!! I’m glad both cars exist too, so people can test drive both and see the difference. 😊 throttle response really? yes i agree about indicator stock (i heard its an option now for those who wants the stock) and horn location is stupid but other things you mentioned are lets say interesting... I have been in both, polestar feels like a boat, and “also drive like an ICE car” is not a plus point for the argument. There is nothing even worth mentioning about the tech in polestar. Are you really saying “does the dual maps in gauge+display better than tesla”? If you are, it makes your whole arguments here questionable… Polestar being expensive does not make it worthy or better, lots of bad cars are as expensive or more, than reputable, reliable and excellent vehicles, that does not make them better cars. I hate to think that too but i cant close my eyes either. That statement says alot about your comparison here…

[@davidditzler2704]

@@BA-ht8bg If your wife does not want an electric car and wants a "normal" car then it's a huge plus in my world. IMO the dual maps are done better than the Model S. In the model S the gauge map is a turn by turn and if you have a lot of turns coming up it's not that useful. The Polestar shows the route and works on it's own and is larger, so that's why I give the edge to the Polestar. The Polestar being expensive is a big negative and is not that competitive without the rebate and in its favor anymore. In Chicago we have no canyon roads and the only curves we have are avoiding potholes and crazy drivers, so I appreciate a softer suspension but not bouncy and for an EV the Polestar without the performance pack does OK. I would be happy in a dual-motor MY with aftermarket coil overs and aftermarket center display. It wouldn't seem special to me, but it would get the job done with no range anxiety and easier to drive on longer trips with autopilot. I would miss my leather ventilated seats the most and also curse their dumb implementation of fixing things that didn't need fixing like using a touch screen to change where the air is blowing and moving the horn and daily inconveniences that are common touchpoints.

[@mig6728]

This guy talks a LOT wow imagine his girlfriend having to listen everyday lol

[@panama-canada]

Show me an EV with 300K miles on it. Then we’ll talk.

[@panama-canada]

Wow he rambles a lot. No wonder he has no family, no kids, no pets == no fun.