I Want To See Another Human Civilization In Warhammer 40,000

[@Goose_VFA1]

"Let's look at this new thing" "Oh dear.." like 90% of the Horus Heresy

[@01oo011]

If they hadn’t been wiped out (thanks Erebus) the Interex would have been a cool faction.

[@pawebakalarz7513]

#getup and, as always, #blameLorgar

[@jaywingate187]

Holy Hey, I just looked up the Interex and they sound awsome! I'd never even heard of them before...damn workshop, why are you so obsessed with Chaos when interesting ideas and factions like this existed? Thats the biggest problem really, that the imperium doesn't have a mirror. Chaos doesn't have any civilizations, no real internal politics, no civilians...the Tau are the closest thing the Imperium has to a rival, and they A) are really pathetic in comparison, and B) getting grimdarked to hell and back.

[@DarrinSK]

They could have had some fleeing Interex establish worlds faroutside in hidden and forgotten systems in teh galaxy.

[@mementomori771]

maybe a psyker ruled empire that during the great crusade created a warpstorm to hide themselves and now that the galaxy has split they have closed the storm and now are trying to take the fight to the empire as they see the empire as vulnerable

[@jellebauwels1066]

I am still hoping for a space skaven army

[@remeythecat1502]

All the great space horned rat

[@michaelgodwin7623]

Check out mantic games vermynn in warpath

[@benmurray8810]

Bobby Digital well, we've always got the old Hurd artwork.

[@Neoslate]

The Hrud shall rise once more

[@RickardLejonhjarta]

huh, yes Yes! We will scurry skittle across all the worlds, take their treasures! All of shine-sky will know Skavendom!

[@alfredlewis8476]

interex remnant would be cool

[@alfredlewis8476]

with 3 man sagitars groups and squishy but elite infantry

[@GuyverZeus1979]

I was thinking the same, Interex was a very interesting human faction, i will love either as you said a remnant or a 30k before the heresy armies, because as we know the imperium battle them back then

[@DarrinSK]

Interex remnant would be amazing. As long as they were given fair treatment from all sides and not written in as BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY EVIL HAIL THE EMPY

[@Carmoth86730]

I'd like to see codices for Dark Mechanicus, Eldar Exodites and Tau Auxiliaries.

[@Knuttonj]

What about humans from beyond the astronomicon? Beyond the far reaches, far flung humans that have their own stcs, their own culture, their own gods, etc. Still having to fight chaos, etc However the problem is that it’s kinda tough to find an archetype for them. The whole range is kinda covered of things to do, to make them unique. Humans are kinda limited in what they can be, whereas new Xenos can be infinite in possibilities

[@themutantgamer4494]

Not true. Humanity could genetically alter itself, to be faster, and stronger without the need for becoming a space marine, a Human with sharp retractable, claws Increased reaction times taken from Animals or even dead Xeno civilizations ... Whose technology is not based on STC but innovation, exploration and the desire to Research instead of just twiddling its thumbs for 10k years The Empire could Just be in an area defended via spatial anomalies they created... hich were messed up by Magnus. Hove No psykers... but tech. Maybe even Bioforming themselves with organic armour and weaponry which outwardly looks like technology... Or even you could go one further and say they evolved to be this hyper Psyonic race who use fire against fire who's soldies understand chaos must exist so forge it, control it and beat it into submission via technolgy from the old ones.

[@TheTank1900]

I disagree, because I think that Warhammer 40k is missing one of the most enduring aspect of humanity: the drive to innovate. Kirioth talked about it a little bit in the machine construct race, but the current state of Warhammer presents two essentially stagnant facets of humanity. The first is the Imperium, which is afraid of innovation, afraid of change, stuck in their dogma to such a degree that only the introduction of the Deus Ex Primaris Space Marines has kept them from stagnating themselves into Qing levels of oblivion, and Chaos who's only source of innovation seems to be new and interesting ways to turn people into demons. A race of humans that, rather than stagnating, has just continued to innovate in an entirely different direction and never stopped would be extremely interesting and a fresh take, exploring the equal and opposite part of humanity than the one the Imperium manifests.

[@sebbonxxsebbon6824]

Tanks, war planes, and troops taken and extrapolated from modern day stuff. In other words, a REAL advanced human army that one trooper can crush entire armies! Fire and forget insta hit and kill weapons, etc.

[@catnium]

beyond the astronomicon its basically just orks and nids, very doubt full a break away human faction would survive long enough

[@Knuttonj]

Catnium A. How do we know, lore hasn't gone that way. Its all assumed And B. Not a breakaway human faction, a full blown one. An alternate imperium. A group of humans which didn't have to deal with a war from the men of iron, but instead had their own problems. Got cut off from the rest of humanity by simeltanious problems. Didn't steal tech from the squats, but had to go their own way, with their own resources

[@torazoul]

Something like the Interex then?

[@Argosh]

torazoul came here to say this.

[@canibull]

exactly

[@tristan1392]

I bet their mechanical centaurs will look fucking awesome

[@matchesburn]

2:26 Wait, wait... You're telling me that the Space Marines annihilated an ENTIRE RACE... of basically Dreadnoughts? Oh, the irony... In fact, weren't Dreadnoughts already a thing during the Age of Strife? I mean, I fail to see the difference between a Space Marine being entombed in a metal body and these guys being the same. It's not like they were AIs, right? So didn't anyone say, "Hold up... MAYBE we shouldn't be killing them for being abhumans considering that Bill over there is also a man that is now basically a living machine?"

[@Alpha-Omega-TFOA]

Not exactly Dreads but close. More along the lines of cyborgs like if you've ever seen Ghost in the Shell but more mechanical.....picture the mechanicus with zero human parts but their brains, which would be considered tech heresy and a tad bit to close to AI to the imperium so they got blammed.

[@ashardalondragnipurake]

they did kindof disassemble the envoy they sent to verify that it was actually human russ was not pleased think magnus tried to stop him but nobody stops the dog once he sees homework to eat

[@matchesburn]

+Ashardalong Dragnipurake _"but nobody stops the dog once he sees homework to eat"_ This is why a newspaper to smack the dog for misbehaving/pissing the carpet should be standard equipment on Space Wolf Battlebarges. God Emperor, forgive me, but you could have at least house-broken Russ...

[@ellrossf1]

That's is commented upon in the first Horus heresy book when the admech kill some strange glass a.i constructs

[@Memento--Mori]

A planet cut off from the Imperium, which developed into a huge techno-barbarian empire like the long dead Terrans. Speaking of Terrans, if Cawl was to introduce traitor gene seed and create new chapters from it, how sick would it be to remake the pre-heresy legions? Luna Wolves, Dusk Raiders, etc. Chapters which defy their traitorous "brothers" and fight to regain the honor of their very DNA. The whole idea of loyalists standing true to mankind while their father and brothers sought to ravage it is great. Hell could you imagine openly loyalist Iron Warriors, standing with the Imperial Fists?

[@highkingfingolfin9773]

You will be very interested in watching this /watch?v=JIf8ypNNoc4

[@Memento--Mori]

High King Fingolfin Did you post the link right? I can't use it.

[@highkingfingolfin9773]

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[@Bloodgulchblue]

The main problem(aside from several legions being likely inevitable traitors due to gene-seed problems) would be in the perception of the legion. Remember the high lords are scared shitless of even the slightest concept of another Heresy(for understandable reasons) and then there`s the matter of the other Astartes, literally every other space marine in the Imperium would see them as inherently untrustworthy at best and heretical at worst(I wouldn`t be surprised by a chapter like the wolves or Templars being openly hostile if not straight up violent). TL;DR: It would be cool but would cause a civil war in the Imperium

[@CojoSC]

I want to see more factions within the xenos races. Its always been weird that theres so many chapters of space marines and so many different chaos factions but Ork is just ork and Tyranid is just Tyranid. More along the lines of Dark Eldar would be nice, like a techy tyranid force that is Borgesque, or Necron that have fallen to a chaos god.

[@Argosh]

Connor Johnston so basically like hive fleets? Different Craftworlds? There's plenty of factions, just lacking codex support badly.

[@rononel8046]

You'd never really see that in Tyranids since it's a Hive Mind, i.e. they all think as one. With Orks there are loads of little differences between the clans, Goths are close combat barbarians, Speed Freaks/Evil Sunz are all about bikes and trucks, Bad Moonz are very tech orientated with lots of 'eavy armor Death Skullz loot EVERYTHING, Snake Bites are again barbarian like but like riding Squigs/wild boar and finally you've got the Blood Axes which actuallu like order and organisation and have a coherent heirachy. That doesn't include Freebootaz who are basically Ork Pirates of the Caribbean...

[@tellder1]

It would be really cool if there was trans-human race that is more of a hard science fiction humanity than fantasy one. A humanity with Dyson Swarms and Matriosha Brains around stars, living in massive artificial habitats. Once Imperium discovers it and tries to kill it they have such an enormous industrial capabilities, extracting materials straight from the stars and building massive armadas in the matter of weeks or months that Imperium can not deal with it as if they were usual xenos.

[@dillonwarcup6426]

Humans that had become basically constructs with human minds? Sounds like someone else I know *cough* Mechanicus *cough*

[@Bethorien]

Having only a brain and all tech is tech Hersey and dangerously close to AI. The Mechanicus retain at least a portion of their humanity in all their forms. Even in the infiltrators there is still human bits inside the chassis.

[@Dingghis_Khaan]

Perhaps a human and/or robot faction from the Andromeda galaxy? It'd be interesting to see what a (potentially agnostic/atheistic) human faction that previously had no exposure to the Warp does to it. Hell, it'd make a nice contrast between what the Emperor intended the Imperium to be, and what has become of it. Or it could be the Imperium's worst nightmare returning in the form of the Men of Iron, cannibalizing entire planets to forge more machines. That one would make for a good third party between the Necrons and the AdMech. Perhaps this mechanical force is remotely controlled by centralized super-AI's akin to AM, Skynet, and SHODAN.

[@MadCowCrazy]

GW has stated before that they could add new races to their games but the question most people can't answer is: How do they play differently from what is currently available? Everything you described can already be done with the current armies, IG, Admech or even Tau fits. Just use alternative models and make up your own fluff. You could easily make a Imperial army that uses Tau rules.

[@sachadouglas8418]

Obviously papa nurgle has plagued more than your body may the emperor save your soul

[@TheyLive7]

I’m still hoping for space seraphon, or dinosaur people as most call them. Also everyone glosses over the fact that they are the perfect threat to demons, they’re quite literally lawful good energy. I think it’d be badass for the emperor to come out of the warp with a legion of seraphon riding with him.

[@papanurgle8393]

Here are some possible candidates for Xenos: -Hrud -Skaven (especially after Total Warhammer 2) -Exodites -Eldar Corsairs -Rak'gol -Q'Orl Some possible candidates for Human Civilizations -Independent Knight houses (there are a fair few uncharted houses beyond the Imperium's borders that are presumably there). -An Equivalent of Bretonnia, humans worshiping Eldar or Xenos deities (was touched on in the Horus Heresy novels with Vulkan's little trip to an exodite world). -Ancient human Enclaves that were never found by the Imperium. The problem with other human groups is that the Imperium's stance in the setting is made in such a way that independent human Empires aren't too possible. One potential way in which they could diversify the human aspect is to delve deeper into the countless sub empires in the Imperium. We know about Ultramar but it's far from the only "kingdom" in the greater Imperium.

[@asaenvolk]

Don't forget the Slann/Lizard men

[@papanurgle8393]

The Slann do exist in old 40K lore, would be interesting to see space Azteq. The equivalent of Lizardmen would be allies to Tau since there's already a saurian species that exists as a mercenary race.

[@lukemclellan2141]

Can we all just concentrate on getting what we already have done properly? New plastic Orks, Aspect Warriors, Chaos Marines, IG regiments etc.. Didn't you do a video just the other day about this?

[@robertleask3982]

Ad Mech are a pretty alien version of humanity. and playable too

[@MrArbiter103]

I'd love to see something like the Autarian Technocracy (from Horus Heresy Book 2). Perhaps like remnants of them who retreated to a quite corner of the galaxy and have held a massive grudge against the imperium for the past 10,000 years, and have now finally decided to come back and get revenge. I like this idea because it would be cool to see some more "traditional sci-fi" looking models and weapons on the tabletop which gives a really cool contrast to all the grimdark we currently see. I like grimdark, but hey variety is the spice of life!

[@Serenica272]

Humans from the Dark Age of Technology returning from an extragalactic voyage

[@SkarmoryThePG]

A friend I've since lost contact with had a quite detailed writeup of a splinter human faction, heavy into cybernetics, plasma technology and solar worshpip. Also, stringy-haired drug-addled murder dolls. That was a fun one.

[@redeye3869]

There is a Sisters of Battle short story called: “Red & Black” about a group of humans loyal to the God Emperor, that had cloning technology and used the clones to fight off Chaos when there planet was separated from the imperium by warp storms. It is in James Swallow’s Sister of Battle omnibus as the first story and is a neet little story of intrigue when they first find them.

[@stonelane1827]

space Slann

[@Trazynn]

The 5th edition Necron book has a scenario for fielding lizardmen in 40k.

[@millsbomb100]

I thought the warpstorm splitting the galaxy. and the Imperium nihilus would have been a great chance for this. One side of the imperium could stay all dark and gothic and superstitious, while the other embraced logic and science.

[@CornflakesMouse]

This video voices so many of my own desires! It's ironic to me that neither of the human factions really embody the idea of humanity at all. We're a bunch of curious thrill seekers. We're almost programmed by nature to be fascinated by the alien and strange. I think the Tau attract players more often not for their big robots, but for their lore and persona. Maybe the most jarring thing about the idea of a new human faction would be the idea that they may actually be relatable!

[@Kratos7560]

I love the Warhammer 40k universe, but the whole Imperium and their practices are a bit of a deterrent to me liking their faction. Sure their ways are necessary because grimdark and all, but the Interex flew in the face of this and proves not only that it is possible for a proper space faring human faction to survive, but to have a non-rogue ai and the capability to repel chaos. On the other hand I agree with the possibile addition of a dark age of technology human faction escaping the Galaxy and returning for whatever reason. A more moderate (and non xenophobic) faction that doesn't care much for chaos or the Imperium's questionable ethics (at first) that becomes more involved later on in their lore.

[@brightborn]

i would like to see a hybrid civilisation part human part some other alien species we haven't seen before with hybrids of the two in them

[@zacharyroussie4746]

brightborn they're called genestealer cults

[@res7336]

This is the exact reason I picked up Renegades and Heretics as my kill team. They had revolted against the imperial government because of unfair treatment and won, but they never fell to Chaos

[@phigu198]

"Like Squats. Or Sisters of Battle" OI, COME HERE YOU LIL SHET!

[@billybones956]

This seems to be a thing with many sci-fi franchises with multiple races in addition to humans. Entire species are portrayed as single, monolithic cultureswith minimal offshoots.

[@EzraeL91]

Humans with a xeno symbiont. The gameplay idea could be that one unit can have two sets of stats due to the fact that they could awaken their symbiont changing during the battle their way to fight.

[@jasonbaxter3658]

Yes the Goa'uld were cool

[@hydrogenone6866]

"We Just Wanted To Be Left Alone"

[@chicago928]

I think it would be interesting if the took Guiliman and used him as a vehicle to open up relations with the Eldar and lead them to find an outcasted section of humans that drastically oppose his rule. Allowing them to split the Imperium, keeping how they are now but allowing Guiliman to move forward with a more open and at the same time strict Imperium. Maybe a number of factions split off from him and join the other group.

[@Doctorwho2421]

I’ve always wanted to see a remnant of the old Human interstellar empire that not only retained their pre-collapse technology, but also spent the time since developing and innovating.

[@darius8644]

i would kill for space skaven who were hidden away inside of another planet, but gradually evolved to become more humanoid

[@GoblinHayle57]

Kirioth predicting Votann??

[@Jacodean84]

I have been writing up a group of humans who survived the golden age of technology by encapsulating their solar system within a pocket dimension similar to how the grey knights did.

[@Rylus571]

A long lost colony of humans that invited a craftworld to settle with them. Humans and Eldar cross bred and eventually a new hybrid race emerged. The technology would also reflect this, like being able to create a temporary gateway through the warp.

[@bobgoblin5328]

My vote is support for the currently unsupported armies before we get anything else, then we can talk about adding another unsupported army.

[@beadyb.1781]

Give us a full Rogue Trader series! Codex, models, so on! I imagine it as an army that requires transports to function, like bringing a small trade ship to the table which is invaluable to the army. The HQ's could all be a Sergeant Chronus type of deal.

[@elbloncomagnifico]

If im not mistaken, the veiled region is still unexplored due to communication issues with astropaths. One could have formed there. That is unless im completely mis informed.

[@WarpstormChronicles]

In the official lore I thought it said that at the edge of the galaxy where the astronomicron's light is weak or non existent there are smaller empires like the Tau and rogue trader planets? It would be easy to make a new small faction like the Tau.

[@thefarlen]

A Dyson sworm civilisation

[@Rahn1908]

it indeed is anathema like you first spelled it Kirioth, your gut feeling was spot on! We need nothing but more skulls for the skull throne! And new berzerkers..

[@TheGlobuleReturns]

Some secret elite unit guarding the rich elites living in the spires of the hive planets

[@Hive-Mind-BBX]

Remember that impguard like army I'm building for a custom game type? Not exactly what you're after, but ideology wise very different to the Imperium, tech wise there's quite a few difference's too :) Even mostly uses parts and models from Anvil Industry~

[@willedwards324]

Reasonable marines are a thing

[@Zickoly]

I want to se a human civilization that resides outside of the milkyway, that is now coming back.

[@atsim8790]

A human empire utilising bio-organic technology? Imagine this senario, an Imperium Inquisitor chances upon two individuals mounted on dragons and immediately accuses one of heresy, specifically of consorting with xenos. The apparent xenos then accuses the Inquisitor of being insane as the organic helmet of his symbiotic armour retracts with a hiss of gas to reveal a human head underneath. The enraged Inquisitor draws his laspistol and as combat begins, the other man transforms into a Minotaur... The first man, in the bio-organic armour, for example could be kitbashed from ældari parts (for example, a scorpion claw) along with parts from a tyranid genestealer (essentially the head to simulate the helmet and perhaps a tyranid torso modified to have two anatomically correct human-proportioned arms in the proper locations). The other could be put together from practically any of the beastmen from Age of Sigmar or 40K itself.

[@jeremysnead9233]

A olmac and imperial and knight type federation. Whith god robot Titans.

[@Mikey__R]

9:48 technological transcendence has already been represented by the Necrons, and partly by the Ad Mech. Hence their intersecting story line.

[@highkingfingolfin9773]

The hyperion cantos might be an interesting read for you (mind you, I never finished it). Theres a faction of "humans"which have evolved disconnected from the rest of humanity and have evolved so much that they are almost unrecognizable. They live in giant space stations and have longer limbs, adapted to 0 gravity etc. Normal humanity remained stagnant whereas they evolved. I really have to re-read this series, it was really good.

[@captainthorrek262]

Glad to hear it sounding like you're feeling better.

[@Leivve]

I would like to see a predecessor human faction, that still calls itself the federation, or whatever the name for the old human empire was. They still got their ultra advanced tech, and you can visually see how everything could have evolved into the imperium's current kit. Their heavy has heavy power armor, and though not as tough as a space marines, you can still see the line of iteration that could lead to their armor. Imagine an army of scouts, but they got tech that could even make the necron tech looks status quo.

[@korvocorsair2427]

Id like to see a human civilisation so strong that it is in fact what the tyranids where fleeing from, maybe founded in the dark age of technology

[@DaveNyhilus]

I remember discussing this very idea with my friends about 15 years ago... I like the idea, it kind of reminds me of detonator orgun and the evaryuder.

[@szandorkane6372]

If you send him a petition I'm sure Fabius Bile will clone you a new civilisation.

[@thetyrannicalllama2211]

Whilst I kinda like this idea I fear all it would do is create a faction which either doesn't look 40k-esque or is just more imperiumy shit but not so no one would care about them and seen as it is a risk and GW doesn't like risks (sisters of battle and how they have treated the gaming industry) they would likely not do this ever.

[@bencox3641]

That will be the Tau.

[@elliethehumancomments4801]

What about a human faction located on the outer rim of the Milky Way?. A Republic whose currency is constantly dropping and rising, like the value of bitcoin. A republic that shoots any Imperial vessel that comes anywhere close to where they are located. The republic is in constant Siege by chaos because when their citizens turn to it they do not immediately destroy them instead they wait for them to hurt other citizens. A safe haven for freethought but not one for safety since the police are under staffed since most capable people go out to war with chaos and minor xenos races. A culture that legally allows xenos to exist inside of the republic but has trouble accepting anything that's not exactly human-looking. Like if you want more people to see this comment

[@munderpool]

There is a downloadable army list for the Empire from Star Wars. The Stormtroopers have some interesting rules. Not that I could ever imagine any humans unfaithful to the Emperor. You hear me, Inqusition?

[@t4washere384]

This kind of sounds like a roundabout way of asking of Squats to come back.

[@WarbossDreg]

Well, there was whole Interex war (Xenophilic human star dominion). Maybe some of them managed to survive in hiding. Also... ...I would love to see the return of the Men of Iron.

[@andrewostman3135]

Brittonian technocracy

[@InquisitorKryptman]

Leagues of Votaan: Allow us to introduce ourselves...

[@nighthawk333ST]

A group from the old age of technology coming back from another galaxy they went in and conquered long before the coming out of the Emperor... maybe. They could even be coming back because they kinda followed the Tyranids back... maybe, but maybe it's just my crazy brain going in circles.

[@socialanimalmedia]

i really want this and an evil non-chaos alien species like the Rak Gol (that are intelligwnt and not a fantasy trope in space)

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

I think it would be nice if some of the minor Xenos and Human factions from the Heresy books got armies from Forge World for use in 30K HH games, and maybe some of their units getting rebranded as Tau subject races for 40K were applicable.

[@tobycrabbeauthor]

Noice, a new race of alpharius'....

[@EduardoFlores-bt4fo]

I remember having that idea once but I was shitposted or ignored on the internet. Oh well.

[@danny5018]

There was another race of humans. A faction that was composed of Humans and Xenos. The Iron hands with the Emperors Children wiped them out. They were called The Disaporex.

[@theleagueofinextraordinary7867]

I forget what they were called. The people that the necrons faught. Old Ones maybe? But anyway. They could be really Lovecraftian and come out to conquer the universe. Maybe even warranting another campaign.

[@Argosh]

The League Of Inextraordinary Gentle People the old ones are dead.

[@nightlord2789]

Great vid i would love to see a highly advanced human faction that survived from the golden age relativly unscathed and possesing a very technologicly advanced and powerful military

[@JWKONTRABASSO]

I would like to see a civilization of psykers that did not go insane during Old Night. And have had plenty of time to develop an awesome society.

[@alexanderbraun7887]

A DAoT civilisation would be awesome, some humans that come back with all technology intact and wanting nothing to do with the Imperium. Maybe a fleetbased group that explored the outer part of the galaxy and comes back in the wake of another hivefleet

[@CPA1535]

what you are describing is how i would re introduce squats.

[@lazysponge]

I always thought it would be cool having things like the Diasporex.

[@matchesburn]

One of the more interesting bits of fanfiction that I read, years ago, featured a "Dark Age of Technology" exploration ship with its crew emerging from warp travel... only to find themselves in the 41st millennium. And dealing with everything that they knew having been dead and gone for tens of thousands of years. Yet having the reason and knowledge/technology that they had back then. Whoever wrote it just kinda abandoned it just as it was getting good (they discovered a dying Space Marine or a disabled Space Marine Dreadnought and brought him back to life and were just learning about what was going on), but that had potential. Especially if met characters that *_wouldn't_* fire on them first for being heretics when they say they don't worship any God Emperor of Mankind. It would also be interesting to see some of the worlds were Eldar and Humans SUPPOSEDLY live together. There's apparently a few Exodite worlds with Eldar/Humans living together or Eldar Rangers and Humans living together in wonderful, glorious heresy.

[@JohnsRoses]

A human force from outside the galaxy has the potential to be anything! Just brainstorming about what it could be is fun.

[@linkgaming19]

That sounds pretty fun, story wise it be pretty fun if they meet the imperium. The two different pieces of Humanity.

[@fellowman8796]

Isn't there a Daot tech world filled with humans and governed by an A.I, and is also in tau space? I remember something like that.

[@TheGigaslayer]

I could see them making a Dark Mechanicus faction that has the Men of Iron incorporated in some way. But beyond that I don't see them making anything like what you are describing, it wouldn't make enough money. We see how they treat Xenos when it comes to the tabletop because they know Space Marines lead by Rowboat Glitterman will always be the most popular. Nice idea for a book series though. :)

[@CatchFlipsidE]

Would not mind seeing an entire Van Saar army. Highly technologically advanced but not overly cunning because of their dependence on tech. The lore is already there... really shouldn’t be that difficult.

[@space197]

loved to see a faction of human where the men of iron never rebelled with them and they are integrated with their military forces.

[@triclopesesquire9078]

One way to have another human faction able to survive in the galaxy is to ally them w/ the tau.

[@Stukov961]

I'd like to see some dark age of technology era humans. Maybe their worlds got transported through time due to warp-fuckery or they're a spaceborne civilization that's been tooling around outside the galaxy. A great crusade era, pre-heresy splinter would also be really cool just to see the clash between the Imperium as Emps designed it and the Imperium we got after Big E's dream died and 10k years of stagnation. Guilliman's internal strife upon returning made large.

[@bryanbarcelo5440]

holy crap, pure humans fighting against pure humans. no xenos, no mutants, not petty puppets of chaos, just human on human fighting. that would be great from a lore point of view.

[@jamaneee]

Rougue traders get access to lots of weird exnos and heretical tech, I could see an amount of them forging their own civilisation on the down low, that would have a weird and distinct army. Their story could be looking for away to become truly independent.

[@joncook7850]

If you haven't read the books: Priest of mars, Lords of mars and Gods of mars then I definitively recommend them. I won't spoil anything major for those that haven't but it involves an exploration fleet visiting the Halo stars in search of tech and you get some glimpses at old human empires that never met the Imperium, being that only a few of these planets were investigated there is plenty of scope for other human empires that have survived. With the things happening in the galaxy currently there are many reasons they might push inwards and come into conflict with other races, such as; the chaos rifts spreading are threatening them, the Tyranid fleets entering from the sides of the galaxy. As long as they introduce something with some substance rather than pulling them out of thin air I wouldn't mind human or xenos.

[@davidthomas2870]

Perhaps a lost human civilization from one of the Milky Way’s orbiting satellite galaxies?

[@andrewclarke7513]

I honestly think it would be nice to see a human faction that is exactly what the emperor was trying to create, the irony would be great, this broken imperium trying to destroy the very thing it was supposed to be

[@kglguy]

I've got it! What about a lost bunch of human colonized planets nearer the galactic core. These planets are mineral rich, but kind of barren, and sometimes very close to their system's sun. As a result, they mostly live underground and have evolved to have better night vision then a normal human. These abhumans would also be shorter and stockier than Imperial humans. When they do travel above ground, it's in massive, armed fortresses on tracks, that make Imperial super heavy tanks look like toys. These colossal (or dare I say, cyclopean) war machines could challenge the titans of other races. Ooh, ooh, or they move about on the surface in heavily armed and armored trains. Obviously, their culture will be quite different. They would have been mining colonies originally, so they'd value hard work, and probably loyalty to their...clan? Yeah, they're society is centered around the clan. Not like the Ork clans, obviously. Oh, and their stuff is all heavily decorated, but very solidly made. Maybe throw some extremely high regard for one's ancestors in there. Now what should we call them?

[@sirt3abaggins]

Id like to see a legit undead army like nagash comes to 40k and mixes undead and cybernetics to rival both skitarii and necrons and maybe be able to raise dead from xenos races to give unique units and create more unique conversions and models

[@Dingghis_Khaan]

Oh hell yeah, we need a Nagash equivalent in 40k.

[@michaelkeha]

I always wanted them to explore the worlds beyond the light of the Astronimicon and see what is out there seems like the perfect way to have a non imperial faction and bring back some older elements of the cannon and lore.

[@briancline7349]

One thing I dislike about the setting is how super large the imperium is and how it’s numbers could wipe out smaller empires if it decided too. Sure there a limitations that stop it from doing that sometimes but does it really have to be so galaxy spanning?

[@bonesmaloy1913]

I believe the races we have fill the universe pretty well. No matter what you’ll always find a race that fits your tastes, unless you’re looking for a good guy. That being said if they were to add a new major race a divergent race of humans would be very cool, but they’d have to be pretty far from human so the imperium wouldn’t try to ally with them at first. (I don’t know if the imperium tries to get humans that don’t have an alignment or just murder boners all of over them)

[@miggiraed.raquinel8867]

Please be Spess Bretonnians

[@vraska8799]

I see people speaking about the Interex... but they were erased from existance. I think you have in mind something more like the Diasporex. They were obliterated too by the Emperor's Children, but they were just a fleet. What about making them just a scout fleet of an actual human-xenos civilization/federation of planets?

[@davelince4091]

I’d like to see a human civilization that either A: split from the Imperium after the Horus Heresy or during it and it stayed true to the Imperial Truth and the Emperor’s vision for the Imperium or B: a chunk of the pre-age of strife human civilization survived and was cut off by warp-storms. Either one would be nice.