I Wasn't Trying To Sleep With AOC - Debating Alex Stein On The AOC Capitol Steps Viral Incident

DEBATE: Destiny debates viral conservative Alex Stein about the recent incident on the capitol steps involving Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...
Date: 5 Aug, 2022
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Despite being critical of AOC, Destiny debates Alex Stein on his encounter with her outside the capitol and finds his answer and the stance of modern conservative surprising Origin debate "WOMEN SHOULD BE PROPERTY" - Destiny Gets Triggered, Moderator Strips ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZTRqoaupKujfbM

[@Michael-qp2cz]

So the first half is about sexual harassment, is it sexual harassment for calling someone gorgeous if they do not consent Destiny?

[@jollycheese5382]

@@Michael-qp2cz I don’t think calling someone “gorgeous” or “pretty” is innately sexual harassment. It really depends on the delivery, frequency, and observable intent behind the statement. There is a fine line between a compliment and sexual harassment in some cases. If it is delivered in a way that communicates respect, then it is fine. If it is overtly demeaning or embarrassing, then it may be sexual harassment. For instance, saying “You look good today,” communicates different intentions than, “Damn, ur hot af.” One seems to be about bolstering confidence, and the other seems to be about communicating a lack of respect. Ambiguous words like “gorgeous” may be fine in some contexts, and inappropriate in others. It is your job to be aware of what contexts to utilize these words in and what other words you should use with them. You don’t want to make people uncomfortable.

[@sgonzo5572]

You lost the debate when he noted that she went up to the camera and waived the peace sign. Its true it wasn't harrassment

[@jollycheese5382]

@@Michael-qp2cz This is a very one dimensional way of looking at sexual harassment which is victim to the multifaceted effects of contextual language.

[@Michael-qp2cz]

@@jollycheese5382 but it comes down to how the other person interpreted it. As u said delivery. Sure a basic compliment from me that I find endearing could be interpreted as sexual harassment to another. I’m not defend this guy, but I feel destiny’s argument is controversial. What if a women was told by 5 other dudes that she is pretty that day and u being number 6 unaware. Couldn’t she in theory claim sexual harassment because u made a statement about her appearance and she might feel embarrassed or demeaning based on her appearance

[@MikeZach]

don't let this clickbait title distract you from the fact that Destiny bought thousands of plastic cups like a teenager instead of one re-useable protein shaker

[@terrapvp]

Based

[@gg-uq6zm]

Lol

[@MichaelB-ug9rs]

That's true and it's funny how on a later stream he said "just rinse off your dishes, its easy" when you can just as easily rinse out a shaker bottle

[@pres2598]

CHAD

[@Worm.emergency]

Ok lowkey, I don’t know if you’ve ever forgotten to do that, or been busy so you missed a day or two, but since protein has sulfur in it, when it goes bad it goes PERMA bad, and your shaker is like hardcore fucked. If I was less of a pussy I would also buy 8-million disposable cups

[@skylersosleepy4559]

The way Alex says "big booty latina" sounds like he's ordering an item at a Mexican restaurant

[@ssjmura1654]

"I'll have one big booty latina with a side of guac."

[@yibuu2]

I wish I could go to a restaurant and order a big booty Latina, 😞

[@JoeMama-gi1so]

I wish i could order one

[@sameash3153]

@@JoeMama-gi1so based!

[@nameinvain6]

Yeah man, like a middle aged white father lol.

[@ELEcomments]

Debating Alex Stein? That's like trying to debate Eric Andre. Nothing good will come out of this. LOL

[@malekartorian3054]

If he debated Hannibal or season one Eric it would at least be funny.

[@ELEcomments]

@@malekartorian3054 To each their own. With how far left mainstream media has gotten, I would argue that in some ways, Alex is even more daring and funny than Eric. Someone needed to take on the left's bs Eric Andre style, cause Eric wouldn't. Alex filled that void.

[@snake2250]

He's right, it was a huge mistake. Talking to characters is so pointless.

[@__-vu8io]

Next up Destiny debates Tony Clifton.

[@XisoLate]

If anything it is fucking hilarious for characters to be broken.

[@V7RV7R]

Nah, this guy has a huge following and character or not, there are people who find him relatable and based and right about his politics. It's never not worth arguing with these guys.

[@swashbuckler2319]

It's pointless when everyone knows they are a character. But ppl follow characters like this guy and Andrew Tate pretty unironically

[@MrTuas]

Yeah i felt bad for Destiny knowing his stance on character debates, he litterally has to spend half of his energy trying to understand what the underlying opinion beneath the character is and dig into that instead.

[@AbyssLMachiine]

There's no debating someone like Alex stein he's more of a character or troll comedian than actual political commentator. I know before watching this that he's not serious in debating destiny

[@general4690]

Alex is great.

[@TXAslingr]

Yup. it saps the power out of the debate bros.

[@nathan_eel]

@@TXAslingr schizo comment

[@nathan_eel]

@@general4690 cope

[@AbyssLMachiine]

Weird that destiny thinks he's actually debating Alex stein. I guess he hasn't watched enough of his content. But some people can hide behind comedy to share their actual opinions so I guess destiny is going into this with that mindset

[@gorlagOv]

Prime time 99 is a pimp on a blimp you really can’t argue with that logic.

[@daemok4752]

Big thanks to whoever capped the volume on Alex, can't stand people who needs to shout out loud

[@miyakejima1]

nice wallpaper

[@satoshiwasareptiloid3777]

He's just mimicking Ralph for the audience.

[@GuyMcDudeman]

@@satoshiwasareptiloid3777 Nah, he keeps this energy from what I've seen of him.

[@satoshiwasareptiloid3777]

@@GuyMcDudeman Then he's Ralph's long lost twin. His tone of voice, some of the phrases and his cadence is a pretty good copy of how Ralph talks/yells.

[@GuyMcDudeman]

@@satoshiwasareptiloid3777 Maybe so. I just know I've seen him on Hippy Dippy three or four times and watched his recent chat with Dylan Burns. He's always like this as far as I can tell.

[@kevinmcdonald6560]

35 year old conservative bragging about being unmarried and banging women...endlessly engaging in lewd unmannerly descriptions of his opponents sex life...the respect for tradition and decency is strong with this one

[@yeilyn24]

Alex is not really a conservative, he’s more of a libertarian than anything.

[@killzone866]

@@yeilyn24 thats a conservative with extra steps.

[@yeilyn24]

@@killzone866Are you informed about him?

[@srduncanbyu]

Yeah I agree. This is a good point. Alex hipocracy was most clear in his hesitancy to use the b word and the c word but his unrestrained joy to use gnarly language to insult destiny.

[@yeilyn24]

@@srduncanbyu Maybe because those insults were thrown at the women he supports but even then he supports the right to free speech and that includes liberals having the right to call the conservative congresswomen by b word and c word even though he himself wouldn’t use those words against the women or men that he supports. Again Alex Stein is NOT a conservative. Not every Republican or right-winger is conservative. Just like not every Democrat is a liberal. Edit: needed to add more. and just like not every libertarian is left-leaning. Why don’t y’all take the time to watch a video explaining where he stands politically.

[@HomemadeSubmarine]

“Do you think there’s a difference between sucker punching someone on the street and fighting in a boxing match?” “Actually I think engaging in a boxing match is worse and much more degenerate!”

[@meteorwalkergg]

"Those things are incomparable!"

[@YoullNeverKnow284]

@@flashpointprdx it was a god awful argument those two things were not comparable. Freedom of speech is a constitutionally protected right and throwing a brick is not.

[@terri6854]

@@YoullNeverKnow284 You don't understand freedom of speech. It doesn't mean you can say anything anywhere to anyone regardless of consequences.

[@bgoode652]

Alex: "I don't spread my butthole on the internet for $5" Destiny: "ehhhhh, close enough." Had me rolling.

[@John-X]

Destiny stans really coping hard. Destiny got BTFO'd

[@Falroth]

@@John-X lol

[@liyanqil]

@@John-X 🤡

[@John-X]

@@liyanqil not taking it well huh, try dilating harder.

[@jockeelly]

@@John-X This guy was literally using fifth grade arguments lol, do you really think he BTFO of Destiny???

[@kiddanonymous8957]

They should put this video on repeat for inmates in Guantanamo Bay.

[@TrentonF505]

I would fucking kill myself if I had to listen to this on loop

[@dickiesdocos]

😂

[@John-X]

No way dude, Muslims would enjoy hearing a fornicating libtard like Destiny get Rekt by a right winger too much.

[@ArchieStormcloudOfficial]

Damn, this is probably the MOST triggered I've ever seen Destiny. Stein's trolling got under his skin.

[@patrickfinnie8076]

Alex is screaming like a child the entire video but somehow destiny is the one who comes across as triggered?

[@zencartii]

@@patrickfinnie8076 This is literally Alex Stein's persona lol

[@frankerz8339]

he was right about his divorce lol destiny cucks coping

[@daniel5913]

This video aged like wine cause Destiny got divorced and his wife left him for some Swedish guy she was banging.

[@adanation8962]

But at least we now know that if you throw a brick at somebody or bang somebody else's girlfriend, they are both bad things

[@fugue6943]

The first monologue from Alex is straight out of GTA radio

[@FullOnMetalHead1995]

Yeah, fantastic amirite

[@DJTUNE1770]

lmao

[@ريّان-ذ4ت]

this is one of those natural trues philosophers like to talk about

[@John-X]

I'm sorry is that supposed to be a bad thing?

[@tc5064]

yea that was just amazing. sexually harassing politicians because thats what saul alinsky would do, i laughed so hard. chat was loving it too, that didnt last long but oh well.

[@Rocky29798]

Holy shit this guy might actually overtake Eric Striker as the most insufferable differently abled person destiny has ever debated

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

IF YOU WERE HIS MOM. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IF THEY CALLED YOUR KID. DIFFERENTLY ABLED.

[@westingtyler1]

BX Bullit and NoBullshit were pretty grating, too.

[@miguelvaranda7377]

@@Bai_Su_Zhen His mom is dead.

[@bentrinker1937]

He works with mtg so what can you expect? Lol

[@downsjmmyjones101]

No one can beat No Bullshit. No Bullshit was LEGENDARY.

[@Ship-security]

Destiny is a girls name.

[@sirmif]

@Ship-security So is Alex. What stupid point do you think you're making?

[@Aryam007]

I knew from Alex’s opening statement where he brought up Destiny’s open relationship out of nowhere what turn this “debate” was gonna take.

[@clovdrift]

Wtf I haven’t got there yet it’s that long?

[@Aryam007]

@@clovdrift lOL, it sure is, idk why people take 10 hours for an opening statement, to me it’s better to just go into the back and forth.

[@KiuHayakari]

This alex dude pays for a prostitute and sees it as picking up girls. lmfao. what a clown.

[@simonwinn8757]

I knew when Destiny used that stupid comparison at the start, the discussion was going to get nowhere.

[@sepehrfree91]

You really needed to hear his opening statement to realize who this guy is? #Based I looked at him I just knew xD

[@AyakaVR]

People who think shouting over someone makes them right need to be globally ridiculed.

[@xVorTecKz]

I would take it further than ridicule tbh

[@kula_lala739]

So pretty much 99% of people lol

[@GuyMcDudeman]

@@peepeepoopoo2749 delusional

[@Scawtsauce]

@@peepeepoopoo2749 he doesn't shout btw, he's too based

[@braydenlove8032]

And sexually harrased.

[@nostep3966]

Hot take: I think AOC will be fine

[@malekartorian3054]

And Alex haranging on the cuckold shit is annoying. Like really, you wanna take the redpill, fresh n fit take on open relationships. He still gets with more girls than people who say cuck everyday, almost like theyre projecting.

[@gg-uq6zm]

@@valemusic8479 I’m sure your mom will also be fine if a guy came up to her and said “look at my big booty white girl!”

[@NewMaite]

"Big booty Latina" the way he says it kills me 😂😂😂

[@dishonoredundead]

If only....

[@avacadocap9591]

@@dishonoredundead what?

[@monkeybudge]

I wouldn’t be into an open relationship, but when people obsessively attack Destiny over it, it just highlights their own insecurities more than anything else.

[@FullOnMetalHead1995]

Cope dude. Same as daddy destiny

[@monkeybudge]

@@FullOnMetalHead1995 Big talk for a man who wife’s name is Incontinentia Buttocks.

[@jasperhernandez7364]

@@monkeybudge of course the left will say this .

[@monkeybudge]

@@jasperhernandez7364 Say what?

[@jasperhernandez7364]

@@monkeybudge like a woman who doesn't disrepect a guy cheat on a guy or show off her body in a relationship is the left worst nightmare .

[@theillmeister]

LOL there's no way Alex lost this. From the beginning, there was zero way for him to lose.

[@johnathancampbell1056]

Correct because the premise was false he never sexualy harassed her

[@drunkencowboyagni]

Tldr Destiny: "sexual harassment is wrong" The other dude: "but your wife-" Truly this was a productive debate.

[@braydenlove8032]

I find it confusing too, why does he see it as a win to say that? Hell, Id say it makes someone look desprate.

[@simonwinn8757]

Have you thought, that Stein knew there was point to debating after destiny pulled out that comparison.

[@sudheerkumar4421]

but also very paternalistic of destiny to say AOC was "harassed" just by being called big booty latina...AOC knows how to milk lefty outrage from her mouth breathing social media followers and ppl shouldnt buy into her outrage just like tht

[@John-X]

sexual harassment is cool actually

[@braydenlove8032]

@@sudheerkumar4421 you are hearing what you want to hear. Wether you like it or not talking about a womans ass, especially one you know will take offence from it is sexual harassment. I honestly dont get where you get off trying to normalize it cause I feel in a situation where a gay male were to walk up to a guy and make similar comments youd get a completely different reaction. Hell even an ugly woman to a hot guy would be an example.

[@mophead1666]

Am I the only person that got the feeling that this guy is just looking for clout? This might be one of the most performative people Destiny has ever debated. I wish at least he was entertaining, I was mostly cringing through the whole thing (that may be his intention, to be fair.) EDIT: Holy fuck. Almost done with this debate. This guy is an npc. Even when a topic is completely irrelevant he just goes down his dialogue tree of prepared talking points. Destiny was right, this was a mistake.

[@shogun0810]

Destiny compared cat calling to throwing a brick. He equated sexual assault to harassment. He thinks the mob that is BLM destroying property was justified. He claims Alex's comparisons are incomparable when he's just tried the exact same thing. He's in an open relationship. Incredible cucked. He has a girl's name. Epic fail.

[@mehblarg5011]

Of course he's looking for a quick buck, it's the easy grift of being loud, annoying and Conservative.

[@Keithslawinski]

He's basically the multiverse version of lctrfan that ate worms for a dollar and played the choking game a bit too much back in middle school.

[@dishonoredundead]

I think it would have value if people who, inexplicably, find him tolerable, or even funny, would watch it. In the off chance 1 or two of them was capable of noticing his "epic LOLOL trolling" wasn't trolling, or a character, it's just a sad little man doing 30 year old Carlos Mencia "durr dur durr" noises because he's authentically upset and can't defend his behavior. He very obviously breaks character in a way that shows it's not a character at all, just a real person with the mind of a child. I kind of doubt his audience is perceptive enough to see that this isn't a troll, it's just a sad man calling his daily life trolling in a desperate plea to be liked, but I would hope seeing him in long form like this would give them insight. Like if Ali G wasn't a comedian doing a bit, he was just an extremely dim person who stumbled onto a tv studio and got offered a job, and people assumed he can't possibly be that simple and have a show. That's what this dude, he's Ali G but the character never stops. This is Alex, this is what Alex is like during Thanksgiving dinner, during funerals, this is a real person. Not a parody. It's insensitive to laugh. But also just bizarre to.

[@soccerplayer922]

@@dishonoredundead tell me you don't know who he is, but in a super long roundabout way... rofl

[@dwyoung55]

It's refreshing to see someone substitute the boring opening monologue with a literal stand up routine

[@jackorlove4055]

Alex is what I imagine happens when someone's politics is informed completely by channels like The Salty Cracker and No Bullsh*t. This guy is like a parody of the worst parts of the modern right wing.

[@derekcampbell4209]

Funny enough No Bullshit was the first exposure I had to Destiny. Incest debate. I watched no BS for the South Park content and the anti sjw stuff. I didn’t start watching Destiny tho till years later but always knew of him. I got off the No BS and quartering stuff a long ass time ago tho. Funny looking back. They’re brain dead.

[@mattleofric1766]

Didn't AOC once say that we should have to "make politicians feel uncomfortable"? 😑

[@jackorlove4055]

@@mattleofric1766 Sure, but sexual harassment is another thing entirely. You can feel free to make any politician feel uncomfortable, put them on the spot, ask them hard questions, speak over them, do what you want. But the second you sexually harass, threaten or physically harm another human being that goes above and beyond making someone uncomfortable, that's actual malicious behavior intended to dehumanize and/or potentially destroy someone.

[@laurendaryani4893]

@@jackorlove4055 It's weird that that's what they first think of when they hear AOC saying that, or that it's what they think she herself had in mind when she said that.

[@mikepilkington2156]

I love The Salty Cracker! What's the other one, No Bull Sht? I'll have to check this one out 😆

[@koralreefs2598]

This man uses chaos to the same degree destiny uses order. A true foe has emerged from the warp

[@brandonellis8111]

In my destiny voice " True"

[@anacc3257]

He didn't use order when he let his gf be touched by stacks of men

[@whasian1487]

Alex is a troll. If you take him seriously in any way, you'll get lost in it.

[@laurendaryani4893]

That's perfectly fine, and an interesting dynamic. He just needs to stop pretending he's coming from anyplace deeper than "Troll," as his beginning monologuewould have people believe .

[@hawkhitter5365]

hes a troll but comparing sexual harassment to throwing a brick was the most troll thing I heard

[@modsoul1]

Destiny lost me when he said it's ok to burn down buildings. Do we really want to encourage that behavior? What if somebody happens to be in the building? What if it spreads to other buildings? These kind of things usually affect the poor neighborhoods more than the company that is fully insured.

[@dudemcgee256]

He lost me when he compared making somebody uncomfortable with words to attempted murder with a brick. He doesn't realize a debate is literally making people uncomfortable with words. By his logic he is not moral and has been a hypocrite all along because he's doing something "bad".

[@iz2333]

You gotta listen, he specifically said government buildings.

[@uncommonsense7471]

@@iz2333 Stealing tax payer money and property destruction is acceptable?

[@iz2333]

@@uncommonsense7471 I'm not Destiny, you should ask him.

[@vanguardoftruth4166]

Alex did a phenomenal job at exposing just how much destiny doesnt have any common sense and just spews the same talking points in each debate

[@kerttu1238]

This guy is just insufferable and it's like he's made it his superpower. He makes me angry and cringe at the same time.

[@timmoe3370]

Then the goal is achieved

[@shogun0810]

Agreed, destiny is cucked.

[@dishonoredundead]

@@timmoe3370 What goal? I understand trolling, this isn't it. This is the difference between Michael Picard, or Stephen Colbert back when he did political parody; vs a 12 year old screeching the n-word into a COD lobby for 25 minutes until everyone leaves. It's not the same thing. If his goal is to make political parody, or irony, he's failing miserably. If his goal was to be the most obnoxious person on earth until no one wanted to be around him then he's failing that too, getting people like Tim Pool to do bizarre commentary calling him a genius is antithetical to that. This is so childish it's beyond pathetic. I'm not being hyperbolic, I have more respect and appreciation for the kid in the COD lobby. At least he has purpose, he wants to be annoying to get out aggression. He knows what he is. This pathetic germ in a suit is doing talkshow circuits hoping to identify himself as a "comedian". Oblivious. And the fact people think it's funny is genuinely stunning on a level I can't even grasp. "Duhurr but it's funny cause he doesn't even want to kiss AOC, she has cooties, but he makes it sound, by act of crudely screaming, that he does want to kiss her. LOL get it? He is my spirit animal, right next to that dude who screams LETS GO BRANDON really loud in da supermarket at people who wear masks. Dey'z my favorite comedians".

[@avacadocap9591]

He was bullied and that makes me cheerful

[@ahmadgamoor3746]

That's why we love him because he make the leftist mad

[@ShivaTD420]

Toddler in a suit 🤣. The effort put into his act is top teir. Npc projections when this actor with that Christmas desktop background and kindergarten mumbling mocking rebuttals looks like someone hit random on the create right wing character screen.

[@FullOnMetalHead1995]

Calm down kid

[@TrentonF505]

Man literally celebrating Christmas in August

[@Umm62]

AOC liked it. Destiny had NOTHIN to talk about

[@ShivaTD420]

@@FullOnMetalHead1995 redeem cope harder, living with the fact you got eased by being a desperate fly ridden gash must be soul crushing. Guess you'll have to keep feeding d hate views and posting trash teir troll bait in his comments thinking your making any progress getting anyone to care.

[@Josh-rn1em]

He has a point on the hypocrisy of society and the politicians

[@easyenetwork2023]

No he is not. Uncomfortable does not mean you harass someone criminally like Stein did or get in their face and insult them like a 2 year old. He called her big booty as a pig and hypocrite as he claims to be conservative and Christian.

[@frankerz8339]

he was right about his divorce lol destiny cucks coping

[@PlaytheListDude]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have found the MikefromPA of the Far Right

[@TrentonF505]

Now I can’t unsee it lmao

[@harryfieldson]

I felt it but I couldn't put my finger on it until someone put it into words

[@Shyftus]

He actually looks like Him......

[@bambisson4502]

his last name is literally Stein the "far-right" probably hates him

[@Moaringvalley]

So right wing makes you look better

[@TheKeefeStone]

Destiny thinks destruction of government property, that we all pay for, is better than harassing the politicians that oversee those government buildings. Personally, I firmly believe that saying uncomfortable words to a politician is far better than destruction of public(government) property that we all pay for. One raises taxes, or takes tax money away from other sources, & the other doesn't. It's just a fact. Which is more morally acceptable, destruction of property, or mean words? No more mean tweets right? Higher gas prices, but no more mean tweets....

[@corpsestarch8869]

Destiny loans his wife out to all of us. Shes our wife now. I wouldnt take everything the gnome says as fact.

[@chrish344]

While they are both bad, I totally agree with you, that was a horrible take by Destiny. Again, Alex should never have harassed her, but aoc could’ve easily just ignored his catcalling and kept walking. And besides, catcalling and physically sexually assaulting someone are miles apart in severity, and they both fall under the SH umbrella. I feel like Destiny is lumping those two together here and isn’t thinking about the context of the harassment. Burning down a government building hurts tax payers, creates fear and public security concerns, could possibly harm or kill innocent lives, and could destroy valuable items or irreplaceable documents. What if a police building is burned down that contained evidence and documents about murder cases? See what I mean? That is the worst comparison I have ever heard Destiny make.

[@chiliflis8660]

True

[@chrish344]

@Ian Westby I see the point that Alex was trying to make in doing that, but he just came off as a Milo Yiannopoulos-type provocateur. I think the “big booty Latina” comment was really uncalled for, but I can’t say that aoc wasn’t asking for this kind of harassment when she clearly supported people harassing Kavanaugh, other SCOTUS justices, etc. I honestly think politicians aren’t harassed enough (for how much they screw over the American people and get rich off their own policies), I just think when the harassment is *sexual* in nature, that’s when it’s cringe and crosses a few lines. Harass them because of their actions and their policies, not bc you just want to piss them off with sexually-charged comments

[@ArmoredSoul1]

​@@chrish344 I can get why someone who likes Stein would think this, but you seem actually kind of smart. Do you not know the point of a comparison? The point is that they are different. Destiny even says right when Stein bitches about the comparison. "The point of a comparison is to compare two different things, and talk out the differences" if your only engagement in a hypothetical comparison is "They're not the same" is literally the stupidest shit. Destiny's point is "If you are fine with stalking people at work and sexually harassing people, then what is your argument against people who use the exact same justification to assault people?" The reason for this is that when we use something to justify an action, we have to prepare for that same justification to be used against us. It's why you shouldn't ever pass for a power to go to the executive branch that you don't intend to be used by someone you don't like. Likewise, when you make a dumb argument, like we can justify sexually harassment and gross behavior because you disagree with her politics, it opens the door for escalation. What happens when AOC stops caring, and it stops fulfilling the purpose of making her uncomfortable? What happens when some schizophrenic in his fanbase sees him justify sexual harassment against her, but their view of sexual harassment goes up to slapping a girl on the ass, and taking upskirt shots of her? What happens when because of the justification is "They are evil and doing things I think is evil", it becomes really fucking easy to justify violence when you don't get what you want from the first step. It's why _I_ don't like punching Nazis, because then it's easy to justify that if someone thinks I'm "evil" in the same way Nazis are under their ideology (which could be scientology for all we know) then it's right to punch me. When it got to the rioting argument, it was about Destiny talking about a specific situation under certain circumstances. Not just indiscriminantly burning down buildings, vs. burning down a evacuated government building after hours after unjustified police murders, a comparison that Stein brought up. So let me do the same really dumb take. Do you really think the police committing unjustified murders, provoking a massive protest movement, is the same as a politician condoning protest vs. your political opponents at their public address and being pro-abortion? Is the action of a mob riled into a riot the same as the pre-meditated behaviors of a man trying to get an own for youtube against a politician he dislikes?

[@WussGoood]

Destiny: cat calling is comparable to throwing a brick at someone Also destiny: destroying property without even knowing is people are inside is a valid form of protest

[@TheMatrixxProjekt]

Wow…14 minutes in and this is worse than Nick Fuentes. At least Fuentes seems like he’s trolling and joking half the time. This is just something else

[@user-cd4ms6cf8l]

Nick for all his flaws is pretty funny and charismatic. Alex stien isn't

[@avacadocap9591]

Lols. Nick Fuentes/ Mandark

[@LMO1012]

@Alboo333 Ted Bundy used to get these same compliments. Lmao.

[@devaxionrl8189]

Nick Fuentes has great political skillz

[@devaxionrl8189]

@Alboo333 insane meaning based

[@Svenpa]

The length of an opening statement seems to correlate with how insufferable the person will be. Many such cases at least with Destiny debates.

[@spacetoast7783]

He spent so much time talking about random shit because he was afraid to go back and forth on any specific point.

[@meatball5336]

Tristan

[@pickledownrickenomics7619]

Biggest revelation from this debate is that Alex only wears half of his suit lmao

[@inevitabledisillusionment9291]

It's painful that he legitimately thinks you got "cucked on the killstream". Forget watching 2 movies on the same screen, I swear people are speaking the same words, but parsing them through totally different internal dictionaries, because it feels like both sides are hearing totally different conversations >.

[@fernandomonroy2]

this isn't a debate, this is game chat

[@NickGhale]

“Treat them with basic human dignity even if you don’t like them. That’s part of being an adult.” Destiny, have you seen your twitter? Lmao

[@dudemcgee256]

Destiny is a hypocrite to the highest degree. He argued that making people uncomfortable with words is wrong and is comparable to attempted murder with a brick. He debates people for a living which is capitalizing on making people uncomfortable with words. The irony is palpable.

[@tucci06]

@@dudemcgee256 That isn't what he argued at all, lmao.

[@dudemcgee256]

@@tucci06 What did you think his argument was?

[@Woodzta]

This could've been fun if there weren't so many weird and personal attacks.

[@comeatmebro8120]

Notice how much quieter Alex got once Destiny came back at him with the personal attacks. Honestly that's the only way to defeat somebody like him. Roast him into submission

[@dukaduka506]

@@comeatmebro8120 Yeah Destiny got owned. Nothing real to come back with to "Cuck".

[@StinkyScrublet]

@@comeatmebro8120 He called him poor and asked him why he wasn't married? He made fun of his suit? I mean none of that is substantial but go off I guess.

[@LamesAMA]

100% agreed, this dude is legitimately unhinged and I was so excited to see them go at it, but Alex is just a deeply boring and insecure individual.

[@comeatmebro8120]

@@StinkyScrublet It was substantial enough to get Alex to stfu for some time

[@BananaRama1312]

this guy is so hilarious its too perfect he IS the southpark carricature xd

[@ennieminee4470]

At the start, Alex has a issue with destiny comparing harassment and assault and destiny replies with “we can compare two different things” Around the 27:30 minute mark Alex ask destiny if it’s worse to harass politicians or the burn down building and destinys response is “the two are incomparable” Even against Alex Destiny can’t stay consistent and will mold his arguments into whatever shape he desires.

[@ArgoFowl]

All I learnt here is that Alex was bullied throughout his whole life, quite tragic.

[@GuyMcDudeman]

Alex was the kid that always dropped his underwear around his ankles to use the urinal.

[@avacadocap9591]

That makes me wet lol.

[@Blackmachismoo]

@@spookychest9210 gross

[@youngp1nk]

@@spookychest9210 It genuinely brings a smile to my face knowing that no matter what you do or how hard you try, you’ll always be miserable. You’ll never know what true joy or fulfillment feels like. You’re not a real human being, like Alex you’re a character. An NPC. Every single person in your life, whether they’re a family member, friend or acquaintance would be happier if you didn’t exist anymore. As a matter of fact, the only good thing a subhuman like you could possibly do is to remove yourself from this planet and let people of greater worth breathe the oxygen you’re wasting. I know it eats you alive every night when you’re alone in your bed. Give in to the intrusive thoughts, just fall asleep in your running car with the garage closed. It’s more than you deserve, but it adds to net good in the world nonetheless

[@corpsestarch8869]

@@spookychest9210 she isnt his wife, shes our wife.

[@famalam943]

“The reason unemployment is low is because everyone has two jobs” - AOC

[@tomsimcox5066]

Damn she said something dumb, guess it's time to sexually harass her! Lol

[@famalam943]

@@Daniel-ih4zh exactly, it’s not true ‘everyone has two jobs’ or even how we measure unemployment. What is true is AOC is a ridiculous person who doesn’t know wtf she’s talking about.

[@Stormy5430]

AOC isn't the brightest person in politics. I don't think she's the dumbest but I also believe she wasn't ready for the rapid rise in politics.

[@TheXiguazhi]

@@famalam943 what is also not true is that she said that. Everyone trying to make fun of the Latina woman with an economics degree from Boston U

[@famalam943]

@@TheXiguazhi “"Unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs. Unemployment is low because people are working 60, 70, 80 hours a week and can barely feed their family." - AOC, PBS, Firing Line, 07/13/18 She absolutely did. She’s wrong on unemployment metrics, she’s wrong on work hours and wrong on wages earned. Her ‘degree’ is toilet paper and she knows nothing. The major point of this quote is this was her answer when confronted on the lies she was telling about unemployment being the “lowest it’s ever been”: in reality unemployment was at a record high. She then made up this quote above showing her ignorance and ability to bold face lie. You people live on a different planet

[@NicholasAlt]

Destiny- Is it OK to slip tiny pebble in her shoe to make her uncomfortable? What about if I misgender her?

[@brainfood]

literally listening mid 2000s Newgrounds humor in a suit

[@JoshJr98]

New grounds was bomb

[@sjoerddondersteen1337]

Bullocks, don't do the OG days of NG dirty like that.

[@heical4433]

Idk why but this dude reminded me of Saul Goodman from better call Saul 😂

[@ProudAchilles]

Thank YOU!

[@steveng6704]

I sincerely doubt that anyone in Alex Stein's audience would be okay with Destiny sexually harassing their girlfriend or wife no matter if they were a public or private person.

[@xavi.cat.4095]

If it was strictly to make her uncomfortable, they'd love it

[@johnlong8952]

BuT ShE Is A PoLiTiCiAn!

[@ChipnDipz1]

Given how he was talking about Destiny's wife for a whole ass hour, I think he'd sexually harass anyone, regardless of profession.

[@nocuh]

“Tamale is even more of a delicacy than a taco” 💀

[@treesdied3696]

You need specifc ingredients and it takes like 6 hours to cook them so yeah

[@N090UGY]

Its not a lie... :)

[@ShouVertica]

It is tho...

[@chrisrock219]

The street tamales in Chiapas used to make my asshole bleed

[@Divinemakyr]

"Sexually harass politicians you don't like." -Based Lord.

[@DarkestKnightshade]

truly a sugma male

[@Divinemakyr]

@Alboo333 You deciphered the message wonderfully, follower.

[@Divinemakyr]

@@DarkestKnightshade Indeed. The annals spoke of this.

[@ThealltimeX]

AOC calls for harassment of politicians all the time and to make them uncomfortable. And he did it in front of the capitol at her place of work, unlike leftists who will show up at their houses.

[@FXKNate]

I like Alex Stein and Nick Fuentes for the same reason I like DSP and WingsOfRedemption. They’re walking punchlines

[@iwannabethekid34xc]

cope. alex mauled des(tiny) here and knew to hone in on his cuckery lol.

[@FXKNate]

@@iwannabethekid34xc I’m still waiting for “isn’t Destiny a girls name?”

[@iwannabethekid34xc]

@@FXKNate dude no amount of stanning is gonna be able to sufficiently defend your streamer e-daddy being a literal, admitted cuck. Like, cope bro.

[@famalam943]

Yeah but AOC is a ridiculous person who should be ridiculed for the joke she is at every opportunity

[@walker707]

also vaush and hasan

[@radioactivedragonite2420]

God destiny makes me so blackpilled because he debates people like this.

[@theomnidegenerate5236]

The crazy thing to me is how many people seem to actually defend the other guy and I guarantee you these are the same people that will complain when women say all men are trash when they are literally the exact type of men that they are referring to when they say that 🤣

[@shogun0810]

Blackpilled? Epic fail.

[@Azraelmaximilian]

@@spookychest9210 U watch little girls at the local park, stop existing

[@AM-cm2kj]

@@theomnidegenerate5236 AOC told her followers to make politicians uncomfortable. Someone then made her uncomfortable by saying sexually degrading comments to her. I think that's fair game. If she never said that, then I think it would've been highly inappropriate for Alex to do that. He just did what AOC told him to do, he made a politician uncomfortable.

[@waynewayne8419]

@@AM-cm2kj there are better ways to do that. You have a brain I expect you to use it

[@WoopyGoldbergsHair]

Comparing cat calling to physical assault because they are both wrong - how to lose a debate before it starts.

[@dirtdogbabyjesus]

im gay

[@bustamoveorelse]

I agree

[@famalam943]

Hell yeah dude

[@TrentonF505]

Noice

[@degeneratetrucker2461]

Lmao Alex Stein is the ultimate troll, I can't believe Destiny keeps inviting him to do stuff 😂

[@runwords_]

@@chrislewis7006UUUMMMM WHAT ABOUT YOUR WIFE Wow we got some high brow creativity with this one

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

@@chrislewis7006 well yeah obviously, I think Destiny had sort of a good point but I think he kind of messed why Alex really did it.

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

He’s not just a troll he’s a good troll.

[@frozenfresh6406]

Oh i just realized who this guy is, he does the zoom political shenanigans. I've always found him hilarious.

[@OverClassKid]

DESTINY LOST THIS SO BAD

[@markcortez5685]

alex stein owned destiny from the start

[@harpsmith8570]

So if sexually harassing politicians is okay, is harassing Supreme Court justices outside their homes also okay?

[@LMO1012]

Great point!

[@mayanksaboo8045]

As long as it's about their booty.

[@onionfarmer3044]

Sure. If you think they are attacking fundamental rights then you have a good reason to apply pressure.

[@anap1680]

They were already doing that How you should word it is So if harassing supreme court justices outside their home is ok, is sexually harassing politicians also ok?

[@TacitSwine750]

@@onionfarmer3044 Harassing SCOTUS justices when they are outside of their official capacity is horrendously inappropriate and doesn’t solve a damn thing. It’s even more inappropriate when you invade their personal lives and harass them at their homes. We have legal systems for a reason. Follow the legal process and apply pressure in the courts.

[@omgitsrawz933]

listening to Alex interrupt and argue is like listening to 4th grader in a suit and tie...jfc this is gonna be a tough watch.

[@John-X]

Destiny fans need to cope, seethe & dilate.

[@liyanqil]

@@John-X 🤡

[@John-X]

@@liyanqil y r u posting the drag queen emoji? 😂

[@liyanqil]

@@John-X 🤡 wow dude you got the whole squad laughing 😐

[@John-X]

@@liyanqil please don't get mad Syed, i don't want u to blow me up

[@joshuadavies5631]

I will make Alex's point for him. 1- Whilst I think there is a line at what goes too far, subjectively speaking I don't think he crossed it (see point 3). 2- politicians should be open to ridicule. The idea that Congress people are these poor vulnerable victims is at best laughable. It's easy to see how this can lead onto laws dictating how NO politician should be "harassed" (and this being taken advantage of) 3- Context Is everything. AOC literally went and took a selfie with AS afterwards and only seemed upset later. She doth protest too much. And as AS said his Intent was not to get off on it

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

Exactly, thank you

[@tropicalpenguin8446]

The problem is with AS is that I cannot tell if he is authentic, or if I can believe his words. The reason I can't is that he has to talk over Destiny whenever he talks. He also goes after his wife out of no where several times. Him making it weirdly personal during a debate, and talking over his debate opponent makes him seem like he can't let the truth be heard because it will ruin him. The personal attacks make it seem like he is trying to distract from the actual debate. Then him asking about other topics that arent a part of the debate, just seems like grasping at straws. The problem is you have to make Alex's point for him, when he couldn't in an hour of talking. While Destiny, I could understand is just don't do morally wrong things to people. It was very simple to understand, even though it seems like Alex wanted to make it seem not simple.

[@alphaclam]

@@mrjtfang2 how was it "clear" sexual harassment if he was just trolling her? they aren't coworkers or anything. he gave a national public figure facetious compliments, in public.

[@THB_DX]

I think AOC didn't realize he was harassing her. I think she didn't actuall hear what he said until watching the video later.

[@Thebullshitdebunker]

@@mrjtfang2 1 Month too late to the conversation; but I think it's still worth responding. Rebuttal to your #1 - As you've said, it's fundamental disagreements, so there isn't much to argue here. Rebuttal to your #2 - Didn't AOC say "The whole point of protesting is to make ppl uncomfortable"? Didn't she sarcastically belittle Kavanaugh's safety after protesters surrounded outside the steakhouse he was trying to eat dinner at? What's my point of bringing this up? Well, since AOC (a politician with power, money, and the media to back her) herself has rubber-stamped harassment of public officials, shouldn't Destiny's main criticism be of her, and not Stein? Rebuttal to your #3 - How was she going to get in trouble? Are you saying actually believe AOC's made up story that she was going to deck Stein, despite there being no physical evidence whatsoever (not in body language, actions, words, etc)? If she really wanted to take power away from the situation, she should have pulled a Riley Roberts. Keep walking, ignore Stein, don't say anything, and don't do anything physical (including bizzare selfie attempts).

[@thevicshow7523]

I see this man going to jail

[@instantsus_]

nah. overdosing more likely. single white 35 year old failed comedian who just now got his 5mim of fame

[@Moaringvalley]

Which one?

[@thevicshow7523]

@@Moaringvalley alex

[@BananaFrostHorseCave]

@@instantsus_ he has 20 girlfriends though

[@hartyewh1]

@@BananaFrostHorseCave 20 nails in the coffin.

[@MultiSpeedMetal]

It's called we do a little trolling

[@matthewcook2058]

Destiny complaining about conservatives treatment of women is hilarious 😅

[@dracondebates]

Alex Stein is the conservative version of DemonMama.

[@scrubfive9239]

"conservative men don't respect women" lol hell of a blanket statement and very wrong in every way. Conservative men believe in monogamy and providing for their family.

[@BassCannonSan]

Is monogamy the one where you have a mistress?

[@scrubfive9239]

@@BassCannonSan Not if you have morals and take marriage seriously.

[@myself2noone]

41% of conservative men believe monogamy is nessaray to raise a child. If you do believe that. Your in the minority.

[@candycanessongs]

@@BassCannonSan Ah, the classic whataboutism. Ask Destiny when he gets monkeypox.

[@BassCannonSan]

@@candycanessongs Talking about conservatives in thread about conservatives is whataboutism

[@waynetables6414]

him namedropping Patrice O'neal in the first two minutes is something else. Patrice and all these other people you are listing would have hated you squid

[@GrandadsLounge]

00:40 Destiny's stance 01:10 Alex begins rambling 09:48 Destiny responds "is it possible to make someone uncomfortable without sexual harassment?" 32:57 single and ready to mingle 34:20 Alex steins skinny leggos Timestamps for own reasons, but a bit of advice, hit play at 2X speed and then start smashing the right arrow key on the keyboard and just watch Alex Steins body language vs Destiny's and try not to laugh.

[@stonnergaming420]

Destiny stated that alex does not believe that AOC is killing babies cuz he doesn't want to hit her with a brick. But when Alex uses the sexual exploitation of children to justify the "sexual harassment" he said that doesn't make sense. How are you guys destiny fans. He's a literal cuck

[@montek2545]

Destiny looked destroyed after being called a cuck, also is destiny hunched over or just short?

[@thegamewin100]

@@montek2545 he’s 5’6 but Alex is 6 something so destiny just looks shorter than usual

[@uncommonsense7471]

Kind of ridiculous that Destiny is allowed to make comparisons about assault with a deadly weapon to vulgar speech because they are "wrong" and "ways to press someone", but comparisons about him defending burning down government buildings and not defending someone's free speech to press a politician is not allowed. So he thinks that pressing politicians with threats/intimidation of violence is morally acceptable, but saying anything vulgar is too wrong and immoral for his virtuous sensibilities.. What a joke.

[@adamcox6960]

I was thinking the same damn thing. Ha

[@easyenetwork2023]

Actually, the vulgar statements are violent. What do rapists end up doing? They usually cuss out women or talk vulgarly to women. What he did was a disgrace to all people and all “comedians.” If I were there, I would have gone up to him personally and said back off.

[@gaz4553]

Ok I’m not a AOC fan but something bothers me about her situation. Why is it that mostly conservatives belittle her for having been a bartender. Her story is her basically pulling herself up by her bootstraps and trying to change the word for what she thinks is the better. That seems admiral. Idk, this is just a late night drunk thought.

[@FullOnMetalHead1995]

Go to bed

[@gaz4553]

@@FullOnMetalHead1995 will do but need to drink some water first.

[@TrentonF505]

I can respect that. People are elitist when talking about AOC and try to discredit her for her past profession, but in the next sentence complain about people who have been in office for 30+ years.

[@eatu4tea]

They're just making fun of her because in reality she's not from the Bronx, she is actually from Yorktown Heights which is a rich >90% White neighbourhood and she won her seat in Congress by Primary and huge support from a PAC.

[@candycanessongs]

Holy sh*t... you still believe that? Look up her family ffs... born into wealth.

[@sircharlesnot]

Destiny, your logic is very faulty

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

You are logic?

[@sircharlesnot]

@@johannesstephanusroos4969 thank you

[@Michael_Feehan]

haha destiny got owned

[@mateo61323]

Destiny wasn’t ready for the Stein 99 style

[@AnEnemyAnenome]

I am 12 mins in and I am absolutely loving this conversation haha

[@John-X]

Alex won with his opening statement 😂

[@MadeThisToWatchVids1]

It’s hilarious that this 35 year old thinks it’s a dunk to reference his high school dress code and apply that to how a congresswoman should dress.

[@CSkyGameGen]

lmao destiny absolutely demolished, expected better comebacks tbh

[@ssjmura1654]

If you've seen any of Alex Stien's content, you already know he's not the type to care about debates.

[@samg.5165]

Whoever convinced this man that he was witty and charismatic is very cruel.

[@Sapientiaa]

Lmfaooo

[@easyenetwork2023]

More like slow in the head.

[@ManicTheManic]

This dude wants to have a show on fox so fucking bad lmao

[@Laeuskong]

This dude is sexually frustrated. He cant seem to be able to talk about anything not related in some way with sex, and he seem to have a very negative view of it being "open" and free. The dude is a walking cartoon character, a waste of time and space.

[@John-X]

Cringe liberal comeback, cope and seethe, Destiny lost, Alex won.

[@elingrome5853]

this was hilarious... kudos to both these wonderful Mericans.

[@pizzaenthusiast7116]

i can't listen to this guy for more than 20 seconds without wanting to cut off my ears

[@famalam943]

Kinda like AOC

[@TrentonF505]

His voice sounds like an obnoxious 12 year old

[@pizzaenthusiast7116]

@@JoshJr98 one minute of them discussing and he’s already doing a baby voice. and you’re telling me to be more open minded. that’s hilarious

[@laurendaryani4893]

Yeah, his joke wasn't that deep. Just a bad joke that blew up in his face and now that he's being called out on it he tries to make it sound like it came from a place of meaning and indignation, as opposed to just "hee hee... wow, I funny!" It certainly wasn't "nearly ten minutes long diatribe" deep.

[@iplayfoofee3547]

Alex Stein is like a full blown grown man child. I can't take him seriously. All he does is personally insult people the moment he loses any debate.

[@retrobluemusic]

thats the point hes a troll, like sam hyde. watch his videos for more on him.

[@konorsmind]

@@retrobluemusic Sam Hyde is a bellend too but atleast he's funny. This dude is just corny. really, really corny

[@iz2333]

Bro but he totally bangs bitches all day

[@Cagliostro85]

Yes

[@retrobluemusic]

@@konorsmind his videos are funny, how he goes to city hall meetings and sings songs.

[@The_Daliban]

Steven, please stop bullying incels

[@avacadocap9591]

No. He should continue, it makes me satisfied 😂

[@hayvebromier2158]

@@avacadocap9591 It would make me satisfied if, when the next incel spree shooting happens, someone you care about gets caught in the cross fire (mom, dad, friends, significant other, etc., you get the idea, anyone who adds value to your life, any who you depend on, or anyone who depends on you). Not you yourself, though. I want you to keep living in this world while suffering for as long as there are eyes on you.

[@TrentonF505]

I can see this dude doing illegal shit one of these days lol. Also, I actually agree with that caller. Stormy Daniels going on Jimmy Kimmel and talking about Trumps genitals is sexual harassment. I was never a Jimmy Kimmel fan, but that made me lose all respect for him.

[@Azraelmaximilian]

Sure, but by the same standard Truml has sexually harassed at least over a hundred people publicly in similar or worse ways to a degree that makes her behavior alot less egregious. For example, most people agree that rape is bad but if someone raped Bill Cosby (who may actually have a record for most recorded rapes in human history) most people are going to at least not care and may even go so far as to say it's laudable because of the sheer amount of rape Cosby committed.

[@avacadocap9591]

I mean trump has said gross shit too, but two wrongs don't make a right. I don't care for trump tho

[@TrentonF505]

@@lamwam5065 I get that Trump is possibly the worst president of all time, but I don’t think anyone deserves sexual harassment. Even if it’s minor.

[@savagetr1539]

That’s not sexual harassment

[@DontCallMeAaron]

Idk if it’s harassment but at bare minimum it’s kinda fucked up

[@mojo2962]

100k views 3k likes >career up swinng LMFAO

[@KristianKumpula]

I tend to skip over parts where somebody's either monologuing too long or talking over somebody, and this is another one of those videos where I had to use the right arrow key a lot.

[@NozdormusRage]

That turns an hour long video into about a 5 minute segment.

[@mclennanashnic]

AOC did look hot in that dress though

[@wtf1a1a]

Sounds like I heard destiny say it's better to burn a government building to make a point than to cat call a government servant. That's some wild cringe

[@thebest3526]

I thought Alex was right to rant at the beginning because that comparison by Destiny was in bad faith. And Destiny saying burning down a building is better than what Alex did to AOC is also another terrible take. The fact that Destiny thinks he's on an upswing is delusional too.

[@ithrowtantrums4486]

Damn destiny the simp getting destroyed about his wife

[@smittylikesto]

i completely lost destiny when he started talking about its ok to burn down government buildings, lol, iduno man

[@slattslime8245]

Alex was making a lot better points and im not trolling

[@patrickfinnie8076]

Room temp IQ comment

[@slattslime8245]

@@patrickfinnie8076 i bet you weigh over 250 pounds dork

[@BruceTheDeuce85]

Comparing throwing a brick to saying big booty latina is in no way comparable. AOC insisted her critics actually wanted to date her and that we should make politicians uncomfortable. It was very clear it was trolling her and not making any genuine comments. Destiny has such an easy argument to make here but chose an example to outlandish to make this point effectively.

[@sgtpatton]

dude sounds like those interview skits by kyle mooney , "ever see the monster grandslams?! is it real?" hahah

[@cyber-bully5063]

Imagine what the dude sounded like before hitting puberty lol

[@rogersam1294]

Destiny lost in the first 15 minutes.

[@thetrib1]

prior to the vid Debate topic: Was what alex did to AOC sexual harassment at the start of the vid Alex: no it wasn't destiny: comparison...only a few because he kept getting cut off 20 minutes into an hour+ long video Alex: yes it was sexual harassment. how is that a loss for Destiny?

[@lmankman6333]

LOL DESTiny is a hypocrit here. He is calling out Alex for jokingly calling AOC a big booty and his own wife throws herself out on youtube and he doesnt condem it....lol wild world we live in

[@mbnall]

“Green screen background, half a suit on…and a cat you’ve had for 18 years” LMAOOOOOOO