I Watched Spider-Man: Lotus So You Don't Have To

[@fullmoon5696]

You guys are calling it trash because Peter isn’t a transgender green porcupine

[@thediamondgamer6194]

What?

[@DeadK3y]

bro is on the last of his brain cells

[@user-x7dc2pq7n]

Really funny bro

[@magnuswannabe4374]

Pin of shame

[@Kalizoid]

Gavin's alt account 💀

[@Crimson.Creates]

7:51 it actually was supposed to be a short film, but after the budget increased, the director went back in and padded out the script to make it a 2-hour movie. And we all know how that turned out...

[@DeadK3y]

imagine if they poured the whole budget into just that one segment...

[@trashboat5388]

@@DeadK3yshould’ve just been the kid who collects Spider-Man. You need a trilogy to do Death of Gwen Stacy and Spider-Man Blue.

[@Crimson.Creates]

@@Iobsterpeterson the director himself said it was supposed to be a short film. Also, the script got leaked during the controversy, and it is word-for-word the first 10 minutes, plus bits of the middle 20 minutes and the ending.

[@Crimson.Creates]

@@Iobsterpeterson if you want a source, watch literally any podcast interview with the director

[@TolietWater]

@@IobsterpetersonYou pulled the part about a comic writer looking over the script out of your ass lmao that never happened. Also if JM DeMatteis (Gavin’s favorite writer I think) truly contributed stuff the movie wouldn’t have been so ass like it currently is

[@Eldron2027]

Gotta love all those ppl attacking criticism cuz apparently you can’t criticize anything that is fan made

[@Antwannnn]

Yeah but people criticizing the cgi are just stupid imo. It's not fucking Sony or Disney so no shit. That beginning swinging scene is damn near flawless compared to Hollands.

[@Antwannnn]

@MadDog5678 stupid lol "you can't critique this overcooked lobster bc you've never boiled your own" but I have eaten a dozen other lobster that didn't have a chewing problem.

[@victorbarrios6090]

They are probably riding on that ideology

[@soanywayistartedblastin8463]

​@MadDog5678then you met a retard ☠️

[@Eldron2027]

@@chuchmaster23 bruh f action. As a DRAMA movie It’s sucks ass 😂

[@JimmyMcGiIl]

my issue with the film is that they didnt dive in too much between the relationship of peter and gwen and i feel like her dying wasnt strong enough, we never got to flesh her out to make it a sadder impact to its audience. i stopped watching a few minutes in because it got boring for me and the action scenes so far were mid

[@DeadK3y]

actually you’re pretty on point here. they kinda threw the audience into the plot expecting that they already have this attachment to gwen stacy. you’d only really have any attachment to her if you read the original tasm comics. most spidey fans come from the live action movies and the later cartoons, so it just doesn’t really stick against the wall as well for most people if that makes sense.

[@gawain7132]

The movie wasn’t about her dying, that’s what TASM2 is for. The movie is about the other characters’ lives AFTER her death.

[@gawain7132]

Also, the scene op mentions at 4:30 I think has enough there to give us an emotional connection to Gwen. Maybe putting that scene closer to the beginning of the film could’ve helped?

[@JimmyMcGiIl]

@@gawain7132 I know but they still make her die if I’m correct, it just felt too soon if anything

[@JimmyMcGiIl]

@@DeadK3y yeah I can understand, even if I read the tasmf comics I still wouldn’t have a connection her at least in my opinion mostly because they only adapt a few things and it makes them someone else if that also makes sense

[@s1imeba11]

To be honest, as someone who enjoys fan-made projects it’s not the worst I’ve seen, but there was no need for it to be 2 hours long. If it was like 30-45 minutes with the kid and focusing on him getting back into wanting to be a hero, it would’ve been good

[@nathanthe1st]

nice pfp

[@blackscreenman6117]

Finally, we have a spooderman movie. Incredible. Spectacular. Amazing, even.

[@DeadK3y]

“im not the hero the world wants, and i’m not the hero the world needs. i’m the hero the world gets.” - spooderman

[@AaronToonsYT]

La spincamzing spider man Incredible Spectacular And Amazing Mixed together

[@NadieNobody-k1r]

​@@AaronToonsYTAnd Ultimate.

[@HendeDerLuna]

finally a fucking video with a honest review thats not just butthurt people who expected a fucking mcu production

[@spider-manunknown9193]

Exactly like people think Morbius is better than this movie.

[@KickItToTheKing]

​@spider-manunknown9193 people who say Morbius is better needs to see a doctor immediately. This has a better script than that

[@ferociousrazordino3581]

​@@KickItToTheKingit's literally a joke lol

[@yosavior4263]

The writing is awful…

[@time2play961]

Bruh and people say morbius is best what the heck on their crazy head

[@KickItToTheKing]

11:02 NEWSFLASH! They didn't rip off Superman, Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man did the same thing. Chill out man

[@DeadK3y]

ahhhh okay, my bad lmao. haven’t watched the tobey movies since i was a little kid

[@aytony4090]

Actually that scene is a rip off. Raimi used it to pay homage to the Superman comic that literally has that iconography as it's cover.

[@KickItToTheKing]

​@@aytony4090it was still used in Tobey movies.

[@aytony4090]

@KickItToTheKing Yeah but Superman came first as the inspiration for that method of a reveal.

[@KickItToTheKing]

​@@DeadK3y btw, if you haven't, watch the 1990s animated Spider-Man show, Season 3, Episode 2. Spider-Man with the boy in the short film gave me flashback to that 90s episode/vibe. Idk if that animated episode also took inspiration from that one comic storyline, I don't know much about that one.

[@readstreams]

Just finished the video. I got about an hour in myself and stopped due to time. However, I will finish it now from what you said. I do really want to see the scene with the kid and everything. Good video overall and good review.

[@DeadK3y]

the second half is a solid experience ruined by what comes before it. definitely do finish it

[@HalfHumanYoutube]

You should do more movie reviews like this. Very well constructed

[@fridgetate7182]

Finally, someone talks about the music. That was by far my favorite part of this movie.

[@Kev5298]

The movie is ok for what it is. Its quite weird that Gavin treat it like the next mcu spider-man movie but it really does have its moment despote many weird moments like Peter vitching mj and Harry. But the scenes with Tim really gets me (yes i cried at some point)

[@arish_xo]

He never did any of that, he was just excited that his film was going to be shown to a large audience no matter what kind of audience he had. A lot of people critique this film based on what he did in the past instead of the film itself. I'm not saying all the criticism is invalid, it's just thst some if not a lot of it comes from hateed.

[@squamham8426]

yeah see this is in my top 3 favorite spider-man movies. I like the slowness, idk. it’s definitely not what it was advertised as though, that’s for sure

[@DeadK3y]

glad you were able to enjoy it

[@krillin2699]

I think the way it was advertised is the way it was supposed to be originally. Cause it was a short film at first, then became a longer film when their budget was increased

[@PizzaTimeGuy]

I was so disappointed, that i even decided to edit this whole train wreck of a movie, like as if I'm Gorden Ramsey in a episode of Kitchen Nightmares. after 2 days of editing, that 5 minute fight scene doesn't make any sense, it should have been a deleted scene. I moved the breaking News scene right after when Peter brings Gwen home, and then the sad music title card comes up, and i deleted the trailer title card, because it's just filler at that point. I deleted the pointless monologue of gwen, because we have f***** eyes! Why eplain it, if i can just delete his voice, and replace it with music that supports the scene, instead of just pointless dialogue. You'll get the same thing across with showing it, don't tell. I watched this movie like 10 times, or more... But I'm still editing it,so yhea...... Sure, editing won't fix the bad acting, but atleast its a lot better then it originally was.

[@shaozabivan2196]

Sup. Where can I check your version?

[@PizzaTimeGuy]

@@shaozabivan2196 I'm planning to upload it to my channel, but i don't now if KZbin would allow me to. If it doesn't work, i will find another way to upload it on a other platform. If it's done,I will let you know about it.

[@DeadK3y]

that actually sounds interesting lol

[@boldone66]

​@@PizzaTimeGuycommenting to get a notif on your edit!

[@random_stuffgaming3277]

@@PizzaTimeGuyYessirr I’ll check it out

[@mackinleymenezes8286]

The fact about the goblin design is that, it is actually the same as the comics , One thing the Sam Raimi's version did well was the Goblin Design

[@justoneguy2487]

The main issue with a comic accurate live action Goblin suit is the mouthpiece part of the mask - in comics and cartoons, it moves naturally with Osborne's mouth and it can get away with that because it isn't attempting to mimic realism. But this isn't feasible in a realistic setting (Norman couldn't just slip on the mask and have the mouthpiece attach to his lips) thus translating it 1:1 to live action comes with the risk of looking goofy, as shown here. That's why the mouthpiece is static in Raimi's film, though it is semi-transparent so we can see Norman's actual mouth moving underneath.

[@aericabison23]

@@justoneguy2487I generally imagine the comic book GG mask as being some type of sticky plastic that holds onto the contours of Norman’s face. If I made a Spider-Man movie, I personally would have made the mask sort of like Batman’s cowl, except there’s a visor-like covering that makes the wearer’s face look greenish.

[@tarantula_xing]

I liked the movie a lot, to me it was one of those short story Spider-Man comics come to life. People complaining that it didn't have much action didn't get the whole point of the movie. Spider-Man is just like the rest of us when it comes to losing a loved one, the grieving process, the whole painful thing. Then you find the will to live and move on. Just like Spidey did.

[@squashmallow2006]

10:57 You do realize the friggin' Raimi movies did that TWICE, right? Also, opening your shirt to reveal the suit isn't a Superman-specific thing too lol. I will agree his is the most iconic, but heck, even Batman's done that before.

[@DeadK3y]

as i said in the pinned comment replies, i haven’t watched the raimi movies since i was a little kid. i completely forgot that it happened. my bad lol

[@squashmallow2006]

@@DeadK3y All good. My bad for missing said pinned comment lol

[@DeadK3y]

@@squashmallow2006 bahh, no problem.

[@busdriverguy]

@@DeadK3y this is how a community thrives bro

[@cole6843]

It did not need to be two hours! It is so long!

[@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841]

Well to be fair i kinda understand they want to make it a proper full movie. but yeah they fill-it with to many damn flashback and some unnecessary stuff. but overall still quite decent fan-film

[@user-x7dc2pq7n]

@@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841but why make a full movie? What’s the incentive if he’s not even getting paid?

[@universecubed8221]

Dude two hours is not that long, most movies are about that long. However, I do agree that this could've been a short film.

[@ninjanibba4259]

​@@universecubed82212 hours is long and pacing is part of why, if the pacing is slow, 2 hours will feel like forever

[@DeansCartoons]

Yeah this whole film felt like they were trying to drag a 20 minute short film into a 2 hour movie.

[@donenilo4401]

A couple things: 1. The scene where Peter is late for the movie and kept Harry, Gwen, and MJ waiting happened right after his fight with Shocker; it wasn't a flashback. This is shown with the preceding establishing shots showing time transitioning to night. 2. Harry walking around is really just a scene to show just how lost he is in life right now, after losing his dad and one of his best friends. He thinks there's nothing for him to live for, so he wanders and even contemplates suicide as he gazes at the highway from a ledge he can jump over. He doesn't say anything, but I felt that the actor for Harry conveyed that feeling well. I wouldn't say this is a far-fetched way to interpret that scene since it was eluded to in the previous scene where Peter and Harry argued. I gotta say, you mocking the scene as edgy is really condescending. The sequence you proposed though does sound better. 3. You didn't read the comics, and so this is pretty much a video that lacks an appreciative perspective of the source material that this film is based on, which is alright, but I do wish you would at least read Spider-Man Blue, The Night Gwen Stacy Died, and The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man. 4. People who say that the scenes with Harry and MJ are filler sound so weird, those are characters that are just as much a part of Peter's life as he is Spider-Man, their relationship is what drives their conflicts in the film to a resolution, as you should always keep your loved ones close in times of hardship, instead of pushing them away. Can they be placed at a different time or directed differently to be paced better, yes. But to take them out of the movie entirely is wrong. 5. Heroes revealing their suit by popping open their top wear is like, a classic superhero trope, it's not limited to Superman, like what 😭 How is that a rip-off in any way?? 6. This movie attempts to balance a Peter Parker and Spider-Man story by providing an answer as to why people need Spider-Man, and how Peter, or people in general, can move on from their own tragedies. While it can be argued whether this film is more of a Peter Parker film than a Spider-Man film, I personally don't mind that, as I find the exploration of personal problems fascinating as well. But to each their own. Personally, I don't think Lotus is a great film, it has tons of issues. Poorly paced, weird acting, weird dialogue, it's uneventful, but I don't think this was a terrible film either. At the very least, it looks competently made in the visual department, and a few moments hit me. Not ashamed to admit I cried. It's like, a solid 6.

[@DaisiesTC]

1. Yes 2. I think the main issue with this scene is the way it was shot, could have been handled better. Not really anything more the actor himself could have done to elevate the scene. 3. While this is a fair point, its also important to get unbiased opinions on how it stands on its own. A film can't just be carried by nostalgia. 4. These scenes would have been more welcomed with better dialogue and acting, and as you mentioned the pacing is pretty bad. Just the way a lot of them are cut into the film are annoying and make them feel like filler. Something that would have elevated these scenes more is if they spent more time establishing Gwen's character and the relationship dynamics in the friend group (and got a better actor for MJ lol). 5. It does originate from Superman, and it is a pretty overused trope at this point. When Sam Raimi did it it wasn't a trope in film at that point and felt like a more natural homage. Its kind of forced here, especially when the movie would have had a much more solid ending if it ended a bit sooner. Feels like they did it just for the sake of it. 6. Yeah DeadK3y's take here was pretty goofy. Most "Spider-Man" films are mostly "Peter Parker" films lmao. Joker movie was incredible and we don't see "the Joker" until the very end of the film lmfao.

[@kcJOOONES]

Surprised about your take on MJ. She was by far the most believable actor in the movie in my opinion

[@DeadK3y]

she just felt so stale to me - i believe that harry had the best performance during the argument with peter about his coping methods and the pills, but then the character got done dirty for the rest of the movie lol

[@kcJOOONES]

@DeadK3y fair enough. She didn't feel stale to me and I found her to be a stand out in all of her scenes. Especially when they put her next to Gwen, who had the worst performance in the movie, in my opinion.

[@DeadK3y]

@@kcJOOONES actually you have a point there, gwen had literally nothing going for her performance lol

[@kcJOOONES]

@DeadK3y yeah man, that shit was dryyyy. Like she doesn't even seem interested in Peter when they're together lol

[@billcipher9344]

Yes, I agree. That was the only thing I disagree with in his video

[@iwatchmovies2much]

Imagine going to the premiere for this thing. It was in a building built in 1912, so it had no A/C in the middle of an LA summer in a packed auditorium. It was easily 100 degrees before everyone sat down and stopped moving. Couldn’t take breaks for the acting and it took them an extra 20 minutes after the directors speech before they got the audio figured out for the movie

[@swiftniss]

the dialogue in first fight it seems more like something deadpool would say half the time

[@gawain7132]

11:25 This critique merely comes from the fact that this guy has never read a Spider-Man comic book (and apparently never watched the Tobey Maguire movies either) so he doesn’t realize that Spider-Man stories had always been more focused on Peter Parker than on Spidey.

[@Nick_261]

Yeah it's pointless. People online just talk about shit they don't understand and are so deep in their stupidity they think that they're in the right and everyone else is wrong.

[@HardClayConsumer]

@@Nick_261Hi alt account

[@mushyplaysstuff]

honestly man smh disrespected them too

[@noahknight4039]

What I got from Lotus is that the fans who supported the movie wants more teen, moody drama in the Spider-man movies. Lotus is Spider-man if it was a CW show.

[@gawain7132]

11:50 “All they really advertised for this movie were how cool the swinging scenes looked” 😂 This guy obviously hasn’t watched the trailers. And doesn’t realize that the swinging scenes were only revealed due to the controversy.

[@motivusthesage]

The part where he said, "its just a word Miles, your people say it all the time." Is truly masterpiece cinema quality.

[@asmur7945]

I thought I was the only one who felt like the first 45/50 minutes could be just cut off and the movie would bang. Like, yeah, it is a independant fan-production, so I give it some slack. Still, there were some really unnessesary stuff. Still, would give it a 6.5/10. Wish to see more movies of the likes showing up.

[@DeadK3y]

have you heard of the one spider-man mutant new york fan film thats in production? i thought that looked pretty cool

[@asmur7945]

@@DeadK3y yeah, just saw their trailler, its looking pretty interesting

[@nic8577]

yeah some scenes and dialogue really dragged on long and could’ve been done different but i still enjoyed the film. i wasn’t expecting anything toooooo amazing knowing it’s a fan film but i was pretty surprised. there was no villain other then the opening scene with shocker and flashbacks with Goblin but i got that it was all about the emotion more then the action. i still enjoyed it a lot. the swing scene were GREAT. loved the ending of him having to almost go in and then going when he hears the siren’s which totally incapsulates the character. the suit is also awesome & the score was really fun.

[@Ale_141]

HOLY SHIT FINALLY A SANE PERSON WHO UNDERSTANDS legit the most mid film I have ever watched it felt like I was playing a really bad indie game while watching legit nothing made sense thanks for covering this dawg, I’m subbing.

[@concerned0]

if it didn’t make sense then i think it’s a problem on your end, movie is a story based of the comics about peter parker becoming spider-man once again

[@Ale_141]

ok

[@Dripthos]

Thank god i wasn't the only one that thought it was meh literally evreyone was praising it like an oscar film 😂😂😂

[@TheonlyCamera-Man]

There are certain parts that are really good, and others that you'd have better acting with cardboard cutouts of these characters rather than them actually standing and talking

[@gawain7132]

10:55 Apparently this guy has never seen Spider-Man (2002) with Tobey Maguire

[@DeadK3y]

pinned comment

[@timmonsflowers]

I honestly really enjoyed the film but ur review videos are amazing dude. The way how you just give an honest opinion and shit and the rambling is just epic. Keep up the good review videos man!

[@DeadK3y]

much appreciated. glad you were able to find enjoyment out of it because there were definitely parts of the movie that deserved nothing but love

[@SimonJamesStories]

Opposite for me! I didn’t like the movie but still found myself hating this review, calling comic readers nerds, full of inaccurate information etc. what a waste of time

[@DeadK3y]

i think you might have a better experience with the video if you take your head out of your ass before watching it @SimonJamesStories

[@Unity116]

10:54 This is actually a callback to raimis spiderman 1 when Peter does the exact same thing

[@egg46468]

He took cues from miles doing random ass flips

[@DeadK3y]

lol i was gonna bring up insomniac miles in the video but i ended up forgetting about it

[@marianxendor3974]

Bro the whole ripping the shirt of thing like superman was actually done in the Raimi Trilogy 💀

[@DeadK3y]

pinned comment

[@marianxendor3974]

@@DeadK3y sorry, didn't see it

[@LeapingDogFilms]

The biggest critique I have for Gavin is that he tried making a feature before even making a single short-film. Basically trying to swing before he could even crawl. If he put this $100k budget into a 20 minute short film we would've gotten something much better because it would've been easier to manage over a 2 hour feature.

[@freemanwithoutthephd639]

10:58 Tobey Maguire did it too but I dont see any complaints about that lol

[@johnoconnell5004]

I'm not a Spider-Man fan. I'm just on a binge watch of videos dunking on Lotus.

[@rhashadcarter2051]

He rips of his suit in the Raimi film, the first one. That may have been an homage to superman tho.

[@DeadK3y]

pinned comment lol

[@shahirali1662]

spider-man lotus was definitely one of the movies of all time, when peter said "It's Lotusin time" and received backshots from miles morales it truly brought a tear to my buttcheeks and a tickle on my pickle...

[@CookieMaep]

Thanks from saving me from this movie

[@kaison12205]

They couldn’t have put any of that budget towards good audio

[@MrHenrik]

11:02 nnot to defend this movie but have you never watched teh raimi trilogy or something?

[@mushyplaysstuff]

he hasn’t even watched the movies or read the comics, from what i can tell he can only played the 2018 game?!?

[@QVESTMusic]

2:13 sounds like they took the audio of spiderman speaking through his mask and it muffles his voice xD

[@DeadK3y]

i think they did that so it wouldn’t sound weird, but it just kinda ends up being super distracting

[@oscrmc8496]

I did like the movie but I agree there are a lot of weird choices. Spider-Man is supposed to be a superhero soap opera essentially. I definitely got the soap opera vibes. The acting in certain scenes really brought some things down. The "kid who collects Spider-Man" was the best part imo. I do feel they captured 1970s Peter's personality well

[@lemonnomel7505]

the way u described mary jane is the same way people described her in the ps4 game

[@DeadK3y]

ive never heard anyone talking negatively about MJ’s acting in the ps4 game but i have heard people talk about how much they hate the MJ stealth missions

[@deformedchad8616]

As a film student, it's not the worst thing that I've seen, but it's really not worth wasting 2 hrs of your life for something mediocre and kinda boring. The director wants to capture the magic ofSpiderman, and yet the acting forSpidermann feels lackluster, certain shots of scenery last way too long to pander to offscreen dialogue. Overall, putting the hate for the creators aside, its clearly poorly made, rushed, the directing for the actors is lackluster to downright bad and just not worth 2 hrs of your life. I would love to add more to what's wrong, but this is just a small amount of the many instances and poorly made choices made for this film.

[@ToddJasonFilms]

You wanna know why that scene of Peter looking through memories on his computer worked? Cause it was a direct copy of Matt Damon from We Bought A Zoo. Same music, acting beats, even editing style.

[@DeadK3y]

i’m gonna check this out soon and get back to you because i’m honestly baffled if this is true

[@ToddJasonFilms]

@@DeadK3y I just re-watched both scenes. The music is a little different but the same exact style. Everything else is the same from the Matt Damon scene. Even though the music is different, it's still the first thing I noticed when watching LOTUS. Then I finished the scene and literally went "we bought a zoo". More like "we copied a scene" lol Here's the scene - kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3zYmXR9m5V0bbM&ab_channel=SinisterSmile

[@DeadK3y]

@@ToddJasonFilms the fact you noticed this is insane. props to you, though i don’t really see anything particularly wrong with the fact that lotus used that scene as inspiration. movies use scenes from other movies as inspiration all the time, y’know?

[@DeadK3y]

@@ToddJasonFilms i must say though, if it’s like a shot for shot copy, that’d be a little on the suspicious side lol

[@ToddJasonFilms]

@@DeadK3y ​ In my opinion, taking inspiration is one thing. Everyone takes inspiration from something whether it's a fan film or an original film. One of my professors at film school told me that nothing is original these days. Yet, in this case the way I see it the scene is too similar to be taken as "inspiration". It's almost like Gavin couldn't come up with his own idea for such an intense scene. The scene could've worked better if he went to all those locations himself and relived each memory like that instead. It probably could've improved the acting a lot better since now there's an actual motivation to break down emotionally. Yet what we ended up getting is a near shot for shot copy of another scene from another movie. I've seen this happen at a film festival before and that competitor ended up being disqualified because the judges noticed the filmmakers make a direct copy of another scene. So this kind of thing isn't unheard of. Those are my two cents on this part of the movie.

[@diand1178]

What so nerdy about reading comics

[@mushyplaysstuff]

exactly it’s just exploring how the character was originally written not dumped over by studio executives or directors trying to look “unique”

[@Ghostly_scarf]

ok there were a couple things I noticed for the rain scene, one the rain looks like someone got two shower hoses and starting shooting in two different directions and two HOW IS MJ ALREADY DRENCHED BY RAINED WHEN SHE JUST GOT OUT OF THE CAR this is by no means a serious critque, I just found that really funny

[@maximusprime3459]

But Tobey did the Superman shirt rip thing too

[@hunterc06]

while i was watching this short film i took small breaks and just ended up skipping to the ending. this film focuses on peter parker more than spider man which i think throws some people off. But you have to give some credit to the film crew that worked on this film.

[@thezygardian5971]

I tried watching this movie and I just. Couldn't

[@leadman7600]

8:15 I know that controller, if im correct it’s a controller for a plug and play system from years ago where on the controller spider man points at your you know what

[@joshuajohnson413]

Tobey Maguire did the Superman shirt opening costume reveal too. Not sure if you already knew

[@Jamies0]

A Good fitting name should of been something like “Spider-Man: Behind the Mask” to kinda help symbolize it would be more peter then spider man himself

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

What about the insomniac theme? And isn't this movies theme just a rip off animated series theme?

[@P8nplays]

Sadly the mj was simply just a perfect fit look wise. She was actually pretty hot as an mj but I couldn’t understand why her line delivery was so bad and void of emotion. She had some good scenes too. But I think this could either be partially her and the directors fault for not directing her more.

[@STARK0181]

Racism and all of that aside. I really dont understand why a fan film had so much hype in the first place, especially after a movie as Goated as spider verse.

[@T800-z4h]

The green goblin fights were disappointing just because the lighting was poor and they were way too short and no glider idk I’m a big green goblin fan, just kinda sad

[@J_223]

Tha ending where he rips open his shirt isn’t jus a Superman thing lol, he did that in Spider-Man (2002) lol

[@POTARAEDITS]

10:56 Bruh he did that in the Raimi trilogy

[@craigsovilla6578]

He's a TASM cuck he mentioned he's never read any of the comics either. Big surprise.

[@alexmason3939]

You liked the part where Spider-Man was his showman persona before Uncle Ben died, right? That's awesome, because idk if you read Amazing Fantasy #15. But that's his original origin and even a Steve Ditko Suit with webwings. This whole Movie was a love letter to the comics and since you apparently don't like those as you yourself stated very firmly, maybe you should just skip it. Some movies are not for you and that's ok. I personally have the same problem with this movie that I have with Spider-Man (2002) and that being that they adapted multiple years of Spider-Man in one Movie, but mostly took the sad parts and the Misery. Pete's normally a happy go lucky type that occasionally has something horrible happen to him every 5 to 10 years. Wich is life I guess. But for this movie it worked as it's a Fan Film and nothing official. Although people like to compare it to the official ones... If we do that it's actually the most comic book accurate Spider-Man we've ever had. lol

[@chcuakeof9xh]

Relax

[@DeadK3y]

waaaa waaaa

[@trashboat5388]

@@DeadK3y?

[@beybladeproductions5932]

my only problem with it is that there isn't enough spiderman

[@billcipher9344]

Good video. I will disagree somewhat with Mary Jane actress who thought I was fine.

[@Dumpster-Fire-Productions]

I think that the him ripping his shirt is to pay homage to the first spider man when he does that before fighting goblin

[@zac2260]

Same opinion. Btw, care to watch corridor digital Spider-Man short film? Just a suggestion.

[@jiggylookback]

Ok so my thoughts: Costume is a 9.5/10. I love it and the fat spider so hard disagree with that comment. CGI is a 7.5/10. Would have been more like a 9 but that opening scene was rough. Acting is a 5/10. Genuinely MJ was awful and I agree 100% no offense to the actress but she needs to take lessons if this is what she wants to do. It was rough and I agree Cringe. The Music: yep. 10/10 easily the best part about this film. The call back to the 90s cartoon gave me that nostalgia feel. While I do like the story of the sick child and the Gwen story. The execution and dialogue was very meh. Like a 4/10. Overall I’d probably give it slightly higher than what you said at a 6/10. It’s worth a watch and it’s really cool what they did for a fan made low budget film. I have mad respect for what they did.

[@ammaralbhrany1699]

Where can I wach it ?

[@DeadK3y]

on youtube for free

[@PrimmBlockGame]

10:55 Tobey also rips his shirt off to reveal his suit. But yeah, this movie is mid.

[@bendyboy7179]

Its kinda annoying that there is no real villain in it.

[@DeadK3y]

thats another reason why i don’t think it’s a spider-man movie. its PETER’s battle and only peter’s battle.

[@schizoreze]

8:28 wasn't this also something in James Cameron's Spider-Man?

[@yourfatboy5359]

That's spider-man's comic origin

[@optimascrime5235]

I just looked up the CGI Spider-Man shot's but only gave the actral fan film itself about 10 minutes...Bro this was over hyped as hell and that's not even mentioning the controversies that made me not want to watch it even though I can kind of separate the art from the artist,But I wached it for a but then tapped out😅

[@masamunemasamune7676]

no way that first car scene looks start outta the amazing spider man 2 game on the ps4😂

[@spencerhowland6446]

Of course the dialogue sounds off it's a fan made movie let me be clear it's a fan made movie

[@chaoticfox6271]

Sam Raimi Spider-Man 1 had a budget of $139,000 and Spider-Man lotus had a budget of $100,000, this is so sad

[@DAYV3EN]

Maybe just a nitpick, but the shocker suit looks really weird. Maybe it’s cause the suit is dark yellow, but I also think it’s cause we can see the eyes. If they put white goggles on the suit, then I wouldn’t really have an issue. Great video

[@DeadK3y]

i think it was supposed to look goofy. in this timeline, shocker is supposedly still a petty criminal who hasn't really got his bearings on the whole "super-villain" thing like he does in other interpretations.

[@DAYV3EN]

@@DeadK3y fair. I still think they should’ve made the suit a brighter yellow.

[@cbrock5529]

1:10 does that thug have a super jump or is it just me?

[@aericabison23]

The problem with Lotus is that in order to enjoy the film, you should already be aware of the broader Spider-Man story (with Gwen and everything). Gavin tried to make some kind of “deeply thought provoking intellectual art piece” but failed somewhat. I also felt it was extremely stupid of Tim to have comics and action figures of Spider-Man like we do in real life. It doesn’t make sense in-universe. The most he should have are newspaper clippings and amateur footage.

[@markalexander9900]

I give this movie a seven out of 10 Everything was great except there was no final battle. I would pause the movie to check on the time to see if they could fit in a final battle. at the last 10 minutes, I was thinking, please make green goblin come back please be a final battle plz but you know how that turned out. But still it’s not a bad movie. I actually really enjoyed it and I got through it and one watch. 😊

[@Thomas-zt7dm]

Did they purposely steal the Loki font for the word lotus? Edit: they use a different font on different advertising and no it had nothing to do with it lol.

[@Alzrozax]

The biggest sin of this movie is that it fails to capture who Peter/ Spiderman is, Peter is suppose to be this nerdy guy with superpowers but u never get that with Spiderman lotus, they failed to show us who Peter/spiderman is at his core, Peter in this movie just comes across as this edgy pretty good instead of the nerdy webhead we all know and love, the first half should’ve been about the loss of Gwen and then the second half should’ve been them picking themselves up because this film is 2 hours long and it’s nothing but depressing meanwhile this is supposed to be a superhero film

[@sourlab]

Well i thought it was completely cancelled I would probably give it 7/10

[@mikhaeel.hoosen]

if someone edits this film it would actualy be a pretty cool

[@gabigote1439]

"in future fight scenes" i think u saw another movie, becuz this movie only has 2 First one and the green goblin one wich is on flashbacks

[@DeadK3y]

put your comments into one you pooper man

[@gabigote1439]

​@@DeadK3yi did not understood this .w

[@Rogeras32]

My biggest gripe with these fan-made movies is not even VFX. It's the horrible direction, godawful camerawork / lighting, and for some reason not a single good actor in sight... What the hell, man, don't they have more talented people in local theater groups?

[@GhostwalkerSparrow]

What I don't think get is why Harry was walking around the streets of NYC to a cover of Radioheads Creep...

[@calfitz-simmons3231]

What you said about Peter having this Superman moment, changing his costume to Spider-Man and all of that is a weird nitpick in my eyes, because that literally happens in Spider-Man (2002), do you have a problem with that as well? I really don't see what is wrong with that moment. Actually the one that happened in the Spider-Man movie would be worse, because he does that in public. I do kind of agree that the advertisement for the movie was done wrong with the coo, swinging and all, since that wasn't really the focus.

[@Dynamicspider]

So are we gonna ignore toney hittin the superman move in 02

[@kaicreech7336]

I will say that the Lotus spider-suit is good.

[@busdriverguy]

Flash looks like the Stiffmeister lmfao I can't take him seriously

[@DeadK3y]

busdriverguy supremacy

[@Lemonooo-c9f]

Dude ur my new favorite KZbinr the hater on this vid prob got paid by the director to defend his film

[@mushyplaysstuff]

we are hating because he’s showing a clear lack of respect for the character out right disrespecting the original source material :/

[@xenoxorus]

Spooderman Lutos is generally a mid-tier fan film that follows around the Spider-Man:Blue comic, Death of Gwen Stacy and Kid Who Collects Spider-Man comics. The only great thing about this movie is the soundtrack, Harry's actor and the cinematography can be a little bit jarring sometimes but the lighting can be great at some scenes. I can see why Gavin is still starting as a filmmaker but for 100k dollar budget with a mid-tier execution storyline is so dumb, but hey at least they put a lot of talent and effort they put into this film with the cast and crew. Harry walking throughout the suburbs in NYC with Shut and Dance soundtrack is so cringe for some reason lol.

[@Ahsanbro3000]

I was an even paying attention on the movie I was just looking at the comets that was the best part no seriously that was the only thing that was keeping me a life to this movie 💯😂

[@td41031]

*Everytime he says "F**k"😂

[@MoronMan]

"No more saying cuss wors guys"

[@laestaca7182]

8:39 I just love how he says that he will not read comics because he's not a nerd and the says "I love the origin scene because..." Yeah, that's how it happens in THE COMICS ashole. So if you wouldn't be such an edgelord you might find that you could like that stuff idiot. Of course I don't know because I don't read comic books either, I'm not a nerd.

[@mushyplaysstuff]

“i don’t like the comic books i’m not a nerd” proceeds to talk about material taken directly from the comics 💀

[@corrupt_insomniac]

It’s not “meh” It’s worse.

[@divine_masculine69]

Honestly I feel that they were trying so hard to be Andrews version of Spider-Man and his movies. I personally am not a fan of TASM movies but I just wish with the liberty they had that they could have done something unique that we haven’t seen before, like a new take on Peter/Spider-Man or something, but the movie overall is just blindsided by the Spider-Man hype and people just glaze any spider content now