Spider-Man: Lotus BROKE Me

[@arloalterman]

As a fellow hate-watcher, I’m sorry u had to go through this man 🙏 But it did produce a great video!

[@MacrowaveYT]

The one and only Arlo has entered the chat

[@robbyrhodes4572]

Hate-watching doesn’t benefit you. It benefits Gavin.

[@cakeisgayandtiktokgirlsbelike]

dude wtf are you doing!? Go watch web of spider Man fan film!!

[@Mr.Fantastic1961]

I love how at the end of the movie, Gavin, a self-proclaimed Spider-Man fanatic who knows more than anyone else, completely misunderstands Peter’s entire relationship with the mask. Peter wants to be Spider-Man, and he loves it. This love isn’t constant as things happen that make him grow a little disdain for it, but he truly grows to love it. He chooses to be Spider-Man, he chooses to be a hero. He took his responsibility and truly made it his own. Peter forcing himself to be something he hates isn’t at all what Ben meant for him. It's incorrect

[@Harrysatt]

Hell, if I were to do a version of this kinda story (which I wouldn't because I know my limits unlike a certain director) I would make it clear that he isn't forcing himself to be Spider-Man but is instead forcing himself to not be Spider-Man, not do something that brings him joy out of guilt. Show him doing it and loving it, then feeling guilty about it (seeing a Bugle article about him and internalising it more after Gwen's death) then stopping being Spidey for a bit (cue Spider-Man No More reference). Him putting the mask back should feel like a triumph not an obligation.

[@boxtupos7718]

Except that is kinda true though, Peter doesn't outright "hate" it; But it is a burden, it's a responsibility, it should have tremendous weight. Peter isn't perfect, he didn't start out "loving" helping people; In fact his journey to being a hero starts with him not helping someone, and ends up with his uncle dead. A lot of story, even more recent ones, leans heavily on this. In the mainline comics (After Dan Slott's run); Responsibility is the main theme. Peter/Spider-Man got split; But rather than typical good vs evil, it was Responsibility vs. Power. That arc shows how Peter sees Spider-Man and what Spider-Man could be; Spider-Man was going around earning money and just flat out doing what he wants, he still is a hero, but doesn't have to worry about his personal life. There's also Spider-Man Lifestory, where his personal life got fucked because of his heroics. Although, it ends on a sweet note, with him finally relieved from the power and responsibility as "Spider-Man"; And trading that for the responsibility as a husband/father.

[@jdizzy192]

Isn't that that stupid "Clark Kent is how superman sees us" bullshit that went around?

[@HerooftheWild]

It's usually the most toxic Spider-Man fans who think they know everything and act like all Spider-Man films should be the same, there's a couple of them on KZbin

[@cartoonhistory353]

@@boxtupos7718finally someone else that knows

[@beanedtea]

I hated the fact that so many people came to the movie's defense saying that the critics' opinions were skewed by the controversies and low budget. No, it's just a bad movie I don't care how many excuses they can make up.

[@protag64toons2.0]

So you don’t care that about the movie being low budget like I’m not arguing

[@beanedtea]

@@protag64toons2.0 yeah i couldn't care less. my issues lie with the story structure

[@imppro]

@@protag64toons2.0budget doesn’t excuse for bad directing

[@protag64toons2.0]

@@imppro I mean sure but I feel like it’s forced

[@Hawkatana]

@@protag64toons2.0 Then you'd be wrong.

[@pazz]

Imagine if a real Spider-Man movie was just 2 hours of Peter grieving Uncle Ben, and absolutely nothing else.

[@Diiv_Tiid]

​@canceritself1854 different scenario, same outcome

[@1-Cørps-1]

Don't give them sequel ideas! 🤫

[@t_ed2521]

Way too many people are trying to act like the director’s shitty politics can be divorced from his movie. But, since his politics are based on apathy, selfishness and an overall lack of empathy; it shouldn’t come as a surprise that his version of Peter Parker is written the same way. Like, even if it was technically competent (and it sure as shit ain’t, lmao), how is this movie not absolutely doomed from the start?

[@stingerjohnny9951]

Yeah, it’s almost like the “keep politics out of my media” crowd are just whining about people saying politics that aren’t there’s. Maybe extreme conservatives should just stay the fuck away from Superhero films, I get the feeling their philosophy of “fuck you, got mine” doesn’t gel well with characters that are supposed to fight for those who came fight for themselves 🤣

[@cakeisgayandtiktokgirlsbelike]

​@@stingerjohnny9951dude wtf are you doing!? Go watch web of spider Man fan film?

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

Accurate. You can't separate art from politics, a piece of media always says something, even if it looks like it doesn't at first glance.

[@johnoconnell5004]

When a low budget 90's fan film called Green Goblin's Last Stand is more entertaining than Spider-Man Lotus which costed $100,000 to make.

[@MrGared22]

Yeah, I mean, there's even that friggin' Cake Day sketch by Corridor (and seemed to understand Spider-Man's joy for his role to boot!)

[@johnoconnell5004]

​@@MrGared22I like Green Goblin's Last Stand more because of it's home video quality.

[@MrGared22]

@@johnoconnell5004 Yeah, it certainly is ironic that Lotus tried to go for a slick blockbuster look but was so empty in other aspects.

[@KeeperProtector]

Talk about waste of money. That could've been donated to a hospital or spent on anything else rather than this awful fan film.

[@Astartes-6969]

I think it's safe to say this version of Peter wouldn't like Miles Morales....

[@anthonymackii3890]

He’s the devil spider-man on Miguel’s shoulder

[@honeyjarboi]

“Dialogue is free” is such a good line. Great job!

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

Making CGi special effects is also free. I disliked that line because it kinda implies that writers shouldn't be paid

[@honeyjarboi]

@@sophitiaofhyrule that is not what it implies at all. And no, CGI is not free nor nearly as accessible as writing down dialogue

[@squid8420]

@@sophitiaofhyrulefeels like your purposely misinterpreting what he is saying

[@zboy1152]

Spider-Man: Trauma Dump is basically this whole fucking movie man

[@defnekaralar5235]

The part where you said "If you squint real hard, you might see where I wanna be buried" sounds more and more relatable the more info I acquire on this film

[@dreamiinotdream730]

They were so busy wasting their money on the Spider-Man swinging scenes that they forgot to make the movie entertaining. Nothing happened at all in that movie except Gwen dies and the rest of the cast just flounders about and everything happens offscreen.

[@sharkfish1231]

I didn't know that there was a Spider-Man villain called the green groomer

[@ozzie_theotter]

Look up Skip Westcott

[@cakeisgayandtiktokgirlsbelike]

​@@ozzie_theotterdude wtf are you doing!? Go watch web of spider Man fan film nerd

[@paulsalmon2825]

holy cow the production is insane this is heat

[@everia_games]

only 900 subscribes is criminal

[@The_DoubleTime]

Apparently Gavin is one of those extremely toxic Raimi fanboys who made the movie just to try and prove he can make a better movie than the MCU Spider-Man

[@eddiediaz5518]

Bro made something worse than the animated cartoon from 2017 instead 💀

[@biggestnerdalive8476]

Its kinda sad, because Jon Watts (MCU Spider-Man director) actually gave support in helping promote the film, before he turned on him.

[@mixanderfigueroa3999]

….and yet all he did was make MCU Spider-Man look even better by comparison.

[@johnmaldonado2974]

Raimi fans don’t claim Gavin J Konop 🫡

[@morbiuscrystal4875]

​@CRAZYMUGMANoh look another Martin Scorsese jr

[@krakenbluejjcz]

Blown away how you only have 413 subs at the time of writing. Insane production value, look forward to watching this grow!

[@Bardock267]

The real best adaptation of "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man" was in the 94 cartoon, that was even my first introduction to the character aside from the Rami movies. But no, Spider-Man is all about Peter getting metaphorically kicked in the dick and being sad and pissy, isn't it? God

[@biospark4758]

The whole “recording messages for Gewn’s corpse” bit was supposed to be an adaptation of Spider-Man: Blue, which is a story about how even though Peter’s moved on to MJ, he’s still misses Gwen. I get what Gavin was going for, but he messed this up because: 1) The comic takes place years after Gwen dies, and Lotus really doesn’t establish a passage of time or really set up Peter and MJ as a thing 2) who still uses a tape recorder in current year?

[@zeldagameryt4018]

What’s even funnier about that small adaptation of Blue now, is that another KZbinr named Browntable managed to make a better version of it with Josh Keaton reprising his role as Spectacular Spidey

[@christophergarrett7082]

Peter isn't a jerk. Even when he lost his uncle in spiderman 2002 or in the amazing spiderman he was still kind and caring. In no way home Even after aunt may died he was still caring about people and was willing to cure the guy who killed his own mother. Hey spiderman lotus spiderman your friend just lost his dad maybe show him compassion

[@goldenshadowproductions]

That's not... necessarily true, he was willing to let Osborn die in NWH, it took Tobey Peter to convince him to save Norman but I absolutely agree

[@Oliviagarry69420]

@@goldenshadowproductionsbut at least then it made sense

[@goldenshadowproductions]

@@Oliviagarry69420 that is true. I'm not defending the movie by any stretch of the imagination, I'm just pointing out something that someone else wouldve

[@cakeisgayandtiktokgirlsbelike]

dude wtf are you doing!? Go watch web of spider Man fan film alright?

[@BelBelle468]

@@goldenshadowproductions idk, it’s not a “jerk” move to be so overcome with grief, guilt, betrayal, and anger and lash out at the cause of it. A jerk would be someone doing bad things without a good reason/not out of reciprocation. The only person he actively hated was Osborn there, even tho the others did so much damage as well.

[@wishdankpods]

gwens death is a classic example of “show dont tell” we dont want to be TOLD what happens, we want to me shown, to get a better emotional bond

[@LtJason20]

The only good thing I can say about Spider-Man Lotus is that it helped me with my Insomnia: (Sleep Disorder). Turn on the movie, and I fall asleep in 5-10 minutes.

[@beplatinum2014]

Your right! It should have been called Spider-man: Morning. Because it was a boring soap opera to me personal.

[@ShinyPrimarina]

"The most cop like name" wait you're so right 💀

[@zaynab-to-a]

It’s Gotham’s police chief’s last name plus Batman’s last name. Gavin should’ve made a Batman movie. No he shouldn’t.

[@KidKinobi]

Even through clips, fun edits, and chill commentary MY GOD that movie seems bleak boring depressing and slow as all hell. You did a public service summarizing it Subscribing cause of this video!

[@costa2794]

The things that broke me is that if you talk shit about lotus in italy, people start to become cinema expert and start saying that this is the best spiderman movie

[@OfficialROZWBRAZEL]

Italy?

[@anthonyr598]

The “spider-man” line after each lame attempt Peter did to convince Gwen to go out had me rolling lmao

[@justcharles7429]

Yo how tf he just tell that kid his accolades were “just stories” 😭😭😭 like what?! who tf are you then strange man who has crawled thru my window??? 😭😭😭💀 - Sage (Tashae)👋🏽

[@MacrowaveYT]

🤣 Lmao Heyy Tashaeee!

[@goldenshadowproductions]

I'm not at all defending this dumpster fire, but I *think* he was trying to say that the comics were stories and didnt actually happen, which isn't that uncommon if the comics get mentioned in adaptations (Like in Logan, for example)

[@biospark4758]

@@goldenshadowproductionsbut even so, the kid was dying. Pete should’ve read the room tried not the crush the dreams of the dying child

[@goldenshadowproductions]

​@@biospark4758not disagreeing, just explaining the possible thought process

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

People who aren't fans of the MCU's Spider-Man and I have never seen eye-to-eye, but I can't imagine this is what they wanted. What they meant by their ideal Spider-Man. I am so sorry, guys.

[@MuggMen]

Okay that Peter yelling at Mary Jane at Gwen's grave, kind of happened in the comics. I mean Peter was in his apartment and Mary Jane was there because Harry was there strung out on drugs, she tells him that he heard about when and that she's so sorry and he goes off on her. He did mention something about the life of the party and go party cause you don't give a fuck about the rest of. I said Peter said that like 2 hours after Gwen and Norman died. I mean to defend this movie but there is a precedent for it but also it was done better in the seventies, because this moment is when Mary Jane stops being a party animal and shows that she does genuinely care for Peter and comforts him, where the fuck is that in this movie? Moment from the comics had character development and growth for Mary Jane and Peter as well cuz he could be an asshole in the 70s and 60s. It feels like this moment just happens to happen and has none of the impact of the comic. Actually a lot of this movie feels like it happened just to happen.

[@victoriawaller6926]

i guess i live under a rock because i had never heard about this movie or the weirdos who made it until youtube's algorithm handed it over. (i guess my 'free with ads' nightly movie watches and the recent rabbit hole of videos on the older spiderman cartoons made it think it would be perfect for me.) i was pretty excited at first because hey! sometimes fan made stuff can be good because they actually care about the thing! i got through the first fight scene before thinking to check the comments and then crawled out of there war torn after the cemetery scene jfc. i had to see what the reception was among other people and thankfully found your video!!! dude your editing is so good! and your commentary was highly entertaining, had me busting up through the whole video, on top of being a good review too. love a hate watch, but also love when people actually point out WHY it is bad. from the shots to the dialogue to the characters to the plot. so thanks for making this video!! and thanks for letting me and my big head hang out in your corner of the internet, i hope to stick around! :^)

[@arcadeassassin7176]

For a good Spiderman fan film that adapts the same story ark I would recommend "The Green Goblin's Last Stand". It's in VHS quality but the stunt work and acting are phenomenal.

[@game84cube]

Your energy is palpable, dude. You have that sort of body language and facial acting that Andrew Garfield lets out. That's awesome. Youre like on the cusp of being KZbinr over the top bullshit, but you keep it entertaining. Besides. You're pissed. That kind of anger needs motion. I get ya.

[@dish_man_wash]

This video was really well done! I couldn't stop laughing at some parts! I beg of you, please make more!

[@thebeetle1656]

Love your content! And I agree, my mom said it was just Monologue: The Movie

[@TobinL1212]

I honestly thought Peter was way too mopey in the beginning lmao. Peter usually cracks a joke in between everything no matter what and this dudes just like "it all seems different now :(" even though Spiderman usually would say something like that and follow it up with "well as different as it could be when you've got super powers now" or something along those lines

[@PhoebeTheFairy56]

Yeah, like even if he's sad peter would crack some jokes to try to lighten the mood

[@cakeisgayandtiktokgirlsbelike]

​@@PhoebeTheFairy56dude wtf are you doing!? Go watch web of spider Man fan film..... Geek

[@PhoebeTheFairy56]

@@cakeisgayandtiktokgirlsbelike???

[@PhoebeTheFairy56]

Oh it's a spam comment

[@cakeisgayandtiktokgirlsbelike]

@@PhoebeTheFairy56 no go watch it Bish

[@chazjohannsen]

I wonder how Stan Lee would react to this movie. Would he praise a young filmmaker for pursuing his dream, or would he diss it for misinterpreting the purpose of Spider-Man.”?

[@BelBelle468]

I think he’d do what the director of MCU Spiderman did. Support him in the beginning but then never speak about it afterwards.

[@bumblebeeproductions1673]

Probably hate it because not only did Galvin mess up the purpose of spiderman, but also the fact he’s racist and Stan Lee was all about equality and such

[@InkEyed]

The acting, direction, and tension in your backflip scene were better than all of Lotus

[@malibubun]

I’m loving this new KZbin recommend a small amazing channel that is well edited that deserves more subscribers

[@superstag]

I got into it with a neutral mindset, no prejudice and bias. I reminded myself that it is a movie made by fans ultimately. Tbh I was excited, i even bought some snacks. I watched for about 10-15 minutes and wondered why tf it was so bad. I tried to look past all the low quality but it wasn't heartfelt or made out of love from the looks of the final product. I genuinely wondered where all the money went. A friend called Spider-Man looks like it was shot on a smart phone but is a 100 times better than this mess.

[@VMB01996]

"The green groomer" 😂

[@TheAtheist8]

i mean.... you landed the flip.... i am obliged....

[@Hawkatana]

0:28 At least he'd get along with the Spider-Man from the 2012 cartoon.

[@MacrowaveYT]

Underrated comment

[@p.h.i.lcongure9168]

23:36 the disappointment in your face lmao

[@ruiz661]

14:13 the sad violin plays for this bad movie

[@josiahbogerty8256]

8:38 Naw “shoe game” is craaaaazy💀💀💀

[@L7nchYTofficial]

I'm subscribing because damn I wanna make history with you. I can't wait to see your channel blow up *pause* Edit: I love your production, it's crazy how much subs you have

[@rarecomment1941]

28:16 bro looks invested into that game like its a world cup

[@jahipalmer8782]

Your backflip earned my subscription.

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

Same bruh 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🤣

[@wiseguy1512]

I subscribed for that backflip effort alone

[@kingcyclops4079]

I was hitting that dislike button the moment he said he wasn’t doing a backflip. But by golly, he did the flip. Earned my like 👍.

[@CrumbisBumbis]

maybe it's just this video but everytime the soundtrack started it kept sounding like it was trying NOT to sound the like the How to Train Your Dragon theme

[@leahthegeek9677]

Damn that back flip was cool.

[@leahthegeek9677]

Why does the soundtrack sound so generic for every scene.

[@CallMe_Kiri]

I did in fact like for the backflip

[@SebastianAceFawkes]

I used to think "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" was the Worst Spider-Man Movie of All Time. Until I saw this Miserable Vanity Project.

[@tamariomartin9080]

Again, this made me appreciate TASM2 waaaaay more. And I didn’t even hate that movie

[@TheLachiecav]

I appreciate the back flip

[@megadoodoo3194]

Dude i just found your channel,youre so underrated wtf

[@RavenAtomic-e5x]

You did infact do a back flip

[@MacrowaveYT]

I did indeed

[@GalaxyFailed]

YO BRO GOT 1K SUBS CONGRATS!!!

[@radedgymantis]

subbed just for the backflip superhero landing 😂

[@videogra5645]

That was really funny and to the point! Wish you to gain a lot of subs!

[@rogueguardian]

Subscribed for the backflip

[@chonstie]

Yo the Strawberries & Cream Dr. Pepper goes hard

[@houstonmunoz9862]

The movie is bad. I didn't even make it 30 minutes, but i just didn't like gavin as a person he sounds so pretentious and acts like he knows more than reql directors who have been doing it for years and have actually worked on big films dudes just a kid killed his career before it began

[@thinkwithvideos2238]

13:15 That is not the Peter Parker I know.

[@TheCrazyGuy2002]

I love this review man thanks for saving me two hours

[@dupersuper6516]

Subscribed at the backflip so there you go

[@Rolando_Jay]

Bro this video was gold! You’re hilarious man!

[@idontknowagoodhandle666]

hey man, just found your channel youre funny as hell keep up the good work

[@Riverside_23]

Appreciate the nirvana cd

[@beans4126]

how tf do you only have 400 subscribers?

[@HeyJay2000]

Wait What? 😅 I've been watching this video for like 20 minutes thinking this is some big KZbinr that I only just stumbled upon. 😅 I'm definitely subscribing because I've loved this video so far. 😅

[@SUPGism]

Yo out of all the bad, the soundtrack for the movie is fire

[@jalenturner5681]

New to your channel the whole backflip part got me 🫡😂

[@DwGamings]

I'm subscribing for the effort

[@Muicheerio]

Ik everyone thats watching this video ABSOLUTELY regrets wasting 2 hours of their time on this trash

[@178laaleros]

When you watch a superhero film or something superhero related it is suppose to be in a way uplifting this fan film is so fucking boring to watch its more entertaining watching the shots that take place in the film rather than the actual acting

[@stingerjohnny9951]

I think it’s because it was made out of spite rather than any actually joy or love.

[@ItsYourYuya]

Ngl you won my sub with the backflip bit about u being too scared to do it in that small room 😂

[@wavewingman5993]

It's 3 AM. I just got back from seeing Spider-Man Lotus, and I feel...betrayed.

[@PedroBenolielBonito]

2:25 SUPERHERO LANDING!

[@yumyum9535]

14:50 "a kid who is mentally ill" 😂

[@nonvmf]

new upcoming channel approaching

[@copfrown2397]

I know they should’ve just stick with the comic book material and only focus on the comic book script Just so that it’s more accurate

[@ElementTimez]

This mans Afro is beautiful

[@Temprix]

Bro what if someone made a what if movie with Spider-Man and Miles Morales...

[@areefshah1005]

Yo this vid is amazing

[@ironcore2008]

From hype to woke

[@stingerjohnny9951]

People were hyped for this film? 🤣

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong, but "dialogue is free" makes it sound like writing is easy, and it really isn't?

[@s1imeba11]

I watched the 90’s fan fil. goblins last stand or whatever after this, and can say without a doubt that I had a better time with that one than this one, it’s just so much more fun, and it doesn’t feel like a Scorsese/Tarantino fanboys wet dream

[@MrKingLuffy]

Why Does Macrowave Look Like Corbin Bleu

[@MisterDeadDoxx]

Most of this film was just establishing shots

[@MisterDeadDoxx]

$100,000 just to film the buildings In New York

[@MisterDeadDoxx]

And the way Spider-Man trauma dumps on a kid with cancer in the movie

[@Otisboy121]

Looks like MST3K AND Rifftrax have a new gem of a movie to rip on!

[@m0dder_archive103]

Subscribed for the effort 11/10

[@TrenchMan93]

I cant believe he had a scene where he kept asking Miles if he could say the N word while wearing a MAGA hate during it too. This is disgusting. Fr though this is just a cringe fanfilm.

[@inspectorgalaxy]

Subscribed for the effort

[@robbyrhodes4572]

The live is good. Screw the controversy and screw what people say

[@Slippieeee]

The music is the only thing going for this movie 😭

[@EverydayWithBobby]

Funniest review I’ve seen of this train wreck 😂 I’m trying to contain my laughter on this fucking plane at the part where you really don’t wanna do a flip and tear up your room lmaoo

[@UNSTABLE111]

yeah, this movie isn't like the so bad its entertaining...putting aside their terrible political and bigoted views the movie felt so flat and boring, they tried to reach too far and made a film based on spite rather than just making a cool little fan film..This film needed to lose an hour, color grading is worst than some seagal or even a neil breen movie..and this is 200,000 dollars. Only thing good I can say is some decent fight choreography and pretty good special effects....Now compare this to Gareth Edwards MONSTERS, which was made with $500,000 and a lesser crew...and that one film feels way more cinematic, paced better with excellent visual effects.

[@sonkplay2]

"Spider-man" greeving simulator

[@pabloiriqui6128]

Miles? :0

[@condemnedpotbelly8491]

Swae Lee?? Where you supposed to do the soundtrack for this Spiderman too?