I Watched The **MULAN LIVE ACTION 2020** So You Don't Have To (warning: bad)

[@CryKaze]

Funny how Disney remade this movie with the intention of changing everything to not offend Chinese people but ended up offending everyone.

[@unclewiley1986]

Except the Chinese government I suppose considering they worked with them and you can tell. (And just to clarify for anyone who might misinterpret. I don't dislike china or any chinese people but their government suuucks)

[@luthientinuviel3883]

@@unclewiley1986 I think everybody should agree about that. The Chinese government is the worst

[@unclewiley1986]

@@luthientinuviel3883 Thank god. I was worried my distaste for the Chinese government might come across as dislike for the whole people and I'm not about that.

[@rand1735]

They didn’t give a fuck about whether chinese people would be offended, they just wanted to appeal to the Chinese government so they’d have access to china’s market. That bitchass conglomerate ain’t slick.

[@ositaiza888]

@@rand1735 yeah if they actually cared they would've actually brought chinese writers or into the production process behind the camera

[@may.k222]

The best part about Mulan was that she didn’t want to be a warrior. She HAD to be. She didn’t start out good at fighting, but for her own sake and her family’s sake she literally HAD to learn. There’s development. There’s sacrifice. In the remake there’s basically no development and she doesn’t make any sacrifices because she’s not doing it completely to help her father, she’s also doing it just because she wants to. It’s such a difference and it’s what I think makes the original eons better than the remake.

[@Pretty_Unlucky]

I couldn't agree more!!

[@andreadomenech5225]

This is one of my biggest problems with the movie, ESPECIALLY since they took out the original message and the struggle that mulan faces. If they didn't take it out then I at least would have respected it a little

[@fairy_floss]

Yeah speaking of her father in this movie he literally just wants her to get married there’s not emotional connection whatsoever I don’t care about the characters relationship

[@may.k222]

@@andreadomenech5225 Right !!

[@may.k222]

@@fairy_floss So true. There’s no emotion until the end. Without “Reflection” after her father yells at her, the audience doesn’t get to see how much his opinion and the opinion of her family matters. They spout all of this stuff about honor and duty to family but she never has any emotional moments with her family until the end.

[@GSlice37]

Animation: "girls can do what any man can" Live action: "the only way women can be better than a man is with supernatural powers"

[@avgcinephile101]

🌸This comment is underated🌸

[@katelynlewandowski2011]

Yes I was like how is this empowering women and girls like how tbh

[@skyebinnersley5049]

This is why I was so disappointed with this movie and captain marvel

[@ciaran4135]

@@skyebinnersley5049 But I guess in Captain Marvel, it's less insulting because literally everyone and their dog have supernatural powers in the Marvel universe. 🤣🤣 But I agree nonetheless.

[@Retardonamissile]

Not true tho....lots of women would not be able to beat up men and lots of men would not be able to beat up women just cuz they give a girl powers doesn’t take away from empowering girls it just is a movie doing movie things....don’t know what people’s problem with not making every movie where a small women beats up scary big men with her “body strength” and “willpower” you don’t have to fake what would happen in real life to empower women? Let me know if I am not understanding. Thanks

[@stephaniesanderson7970]

Making mulan "born special" excludes every little girl who doesn't feel special. I hate the changes w the remake, that one in particular.

[@power9725]

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING TOO

[@kiaverodriguez6529]

It also says that if ya ain’t special, it means u gon have to be good wife material or average and non special.

[@seb______]

yeah chi, or qi, isnt anything magical. it's just lifeforce in general and everyone has chi. I dont even know why they even protrayed chi like that tho

[@1monthago860]

Ikr. Like I get ur makin a remake with twists but not ignorant shit

[@weasleys4life64]

Soooo true tho This movie is 100000000% an absolute ass

[@gursibi1353]

“we want to make the movie more realistic” the movie: mulan having chi, can run on the side of the walls, has a phoenix, a witch

[@Xehanort10]

That was also their excuse for not having Mushu in this version.

[@lizziemonk927]

Disney: We want to make it more culturally accurate for our Chinese audience Also Disney: Uses the western style phoenix (holy flames & resurrection) instead of Fenghuang (the ACTUAL Chinese phoenix associated with femininity, luck, and ascension of a new emperor); writes chi as something only a few people can possess and be naturally strong, instead of chi being life energy that EVERYONE possesses and can cultivate through hard work and training.

[@labelle4497]

The animated was more realistic than this 😂

[@soliarsystem]

chi is life force though

[@athenasn]

it is disney so they wanted to tie it in to be extra but the phoenix is like the animal or spirit they call to with chi. bc with Chi you are connecting with peace and nature and the environment almost with balance and being calm and careful. so they brought the phoenix to showcase it bc like the fathers little charm or i forgot what its called signified the phoenix or the ancestors

[@shreyaprakash9440]

isn’t the entire point of mulan that she’s an ordinary girl and that other ordinary girls could see themselves in her?

[@N7C_25.0]

Literally in the second movie she shows the younger girls that they can be like her too

[@Prof.SeverusSnape]

Not to mention that in the actual ballad, Mulan was the very typical and very simple everyday girl for her era, like, I-stay-at-home-and-sew, typical. She wasn't about that life. She saw a problem and fixed it. Even if it took her 12 years & no one knew the wiser. Magical-Girl Sailor Moon Mulan wha-?!

[@maroonggirl]

I loved seeing Mulan be clumsy and not that athletically gifted in the animated version. I relate to that so much. The Make a Man Out of You montage of her struggling, nearly quitting, but working her butt off to get to the top of the pack inspires me even now. I can't hear "Let's get down to business, to defeat...the huns. Did they send me daughters when I asked for sons?" without getting pumped up. But the live action is just...she's 5 years old and doing insane roof parkour acrobats around the village. Not like she worked her butt off training to do that like any real world gymnast, but she's got like mystical dragon powers or whatever? This movie in general is giving me big "The Last Airbender (dir. M. Night Shyamalan)" energy. It's recreating a beloved piece of media, changing too much that didn't need to be changed, adding in too much of their own ideas no one asked for, and utterly ruining their own project. So much of it was changed and contradicts the source material, they would've been better off just changing the names and turning it into an original movie. Mulan isn't as bad as The Last Airbender, but it ain't great. I'm not in any kind of rush to watch it again (unless it comes with Trin commentary). If I paid a Disney+ subscription fee AND an extra $20 to watch it as soon as it came out, I'd be livid.

[@crystalwang1532]

Yeah, that was literally the point of the whole ballad and the thematic story. She was average as fuck and through hard work was able to pull herself into leading an army

[@emilyau8023]

Yep

[@defiantaichi]

They removed Shang but still gave her awkward tension moments with that other dude. They removed the dragon but added a Phoenix. This whole movie is just a series of bad decisions

[@KoiinuNe]

this! like why remove it if you were still going to "add" them back in??

[@MayaTadmor]

yeah also the “love interest” guy was so pointless😭 it was a big deal when shang accepted mulan cause he was the general. this guy was just...there to be a love interest ig? but they didn’t do anything with his character and he accepts mulan immediately

[@sxgarcloudies9191]

@@MayaTadmor I agree with you!! when I was watching the movie I also noticed that and was like What's the actual point of him being in this movie? he wasn't like the original character from the movie, just turned out to be the first one to accept her BUT JUST THAT

[@random_meta]

the love interest dude was so bland and they had zero chemistry

[@sxgarcloudies9191]

@@random_meta EXACTLY

[@jemmabrokenshire3900]

They tried to make it a feminist movie, but the original had more feminist themes than the ‘feminist’ version

[@corneliastreets]

It was primarily written by a man and three other women. I'm pretty sure they're all white, that's why it didn't click. They didn't understand the culture and the complexities and emotions that went into the themes the original had and that's why it was so bad and felt so forced.

[@eypu999]

I think they’re those annoying people who doesn’t truly understand what a feminist movie could be, they make it cringe, boring and obvious. No offense but white men and women when trying to write a feminist character, they made them the same.

[@loveitftw]

they lose the feminist shit when they actually try to be feminist lol. It was so much more badass in the og.

[@danjlp9155]

TRUTH

[@eypu999]

@@loveitftw that’s white feminism I guess lol

[@stratosphere_1294]

I'm still pissed they didn't add Mulans Grandma, She was one of the best parts of the Cartoon and I take 0 criticism

[@luthientinuviel3883]

Yes this is true, so very very true.

[@TF2Fan101]

I'm honestly surprised they didn't give Ming-Na Wen a starring role considering she was the original voice of Mulan.

[@madi410]

mulan’s grandma and mushu were too good for the disaster of a movie

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

When Mulan left and he said, will you still not take my hand”, I literally said “will you like to stay for dinner? Grandma: would you like to stay forever?

[@amberwingtundrawing776]

@@TF2Fan101 oh dude, Ming Na Wen as Mulan's grandma 👀

[@cliodhna3611]

When you make a female character only gain her strength through chi, your basically saying that unless girls have magic abilities they aren’t strong. And I know that’s not what the film makers probably intended, but it really just feels like it to me. In the original, Mulan gains her strength and power through hard work and love for her father, not some weird magic ability from birth that doesn’t exist irl. Edit: I didn’t mean Qi (I think I spelt it wrong before sorry) is magical or a super power and I honestly don’t know much about it, but the use of it in this live action does insinuate women need this Qi to be powerful and strong whereas the men are strong off their own accord

[@jodielou]

👏🏼 exactly!!!

[@rogue_hitman6582]

Exactly, in fact she had to work twice as hard to be that good and not only is that accurate, but also super inspirational. Mulan was witty/charming, hard-working, and caring in the original and this girl is so blank idek what to say.

[@itsbambi92]

I felt the same way. What made the original so good was Mulan. She was a really flawed and real character! She would forget her chores, she was clumsy, she struggled to fit in, she loves her family, she had a voice and was often shut down because she’s a woman. She was never disrespectful but she followed her heart despite not knowing what she was getting herself into. Mulan is such a relatable character and this new version of Mulan is like another girl power Mary Sue. Just another female character that makes you feel you aren’t good enough to be strong or anything.

[@fabiofuoco]

Adding to that, I think one of if not THE major strength of Mulan was not physical, but instead her natural problem solving ability! From feeding the chicken using the dog, to causing the avalanche instead of attacking physically the Huns, to climbing that pole by using the weights to her advantage! That was to me a huuuge part of her character, what made her unique and intelligent, and being perfectly balanced between her feminine and her masculine side!

[@BabyGirlTiny]

I think that would be fine, if it was established that it wasn’t a gender based thing and instead everyone had chi but the important thing was how you use the chi that matters. This way you can keep that element, but also keep Mulans cleverness

[@Dawnstar1209]

“We don’t wanna offend anyone” *makes a boring, stereotype riddled movie, reusing the same 10-15 lines over and over again and saying nothing original*

[@Xehanort10]

When you try not to offend anyone you apparently wind up offending everyone.

[@arnoldochavez5317]

If they would’ve changed all the controversial stuff and made this it’s own movie, I feel like it wouldn’t be that bad. Like make it not Milan, but a different story.(less offensive)

[@Xehanort10]

They also said they wanted to make it more realistic by getting rid of Mushu only to replace him with a shapeshifting witch.

[@missserenity1090]

Xehanort10 Witches don’t even exist in Chinese culture. There are similar concepts but women with magic weren’t seen as evil or monster because they have magic or are women. The whole witch thing was really European.

[@glowtiqueee]

@@Xehanort10 yes I was so sad when they took mushu off 😩

[@empyrealwonder]

The directors and writers literally just took everything that made Mulan such a great character and role model for young girls to look up to and decided to throw it in the trash

[@shanicek5188]

She was strong on her own, and she was a great role model and this one just lacked emotion

[@nuhuhitsgreywater]

@@shanicek5188 the only reason mulan had power in this movie was through magic. It completely removes the idea that mulan got her strength through hard work and determination

[@shanicek5188]

@@nuhuhitsgreywater ikr

[@junhansguitar1036]

@@nuhuhitsgreywater fr

[@nargesidk3208]

they also filmed in xinjiang, where uighur concentration camps were and were forced to do labour without proper pay. they literally could have filmed ANYWHERE else in china but no.

[@avocados9368]

the old mulan is abt how mulan, a girl, can be just as good, if not better at what men do, because she’s determined and used her brain and stuff. but in the new one, she’s a prodigy. she’s born with a talent for fighting, which makes her better than some men, because she’s born with “manly” qualities. the movie is saying that in order for girls to be successful, they must be “manly”. instead of mulan growing with her peers and learning to use wit and courage and being determined, she skips all that. her sister, who doesn’t possess “manly” qualities, has her destiny planned out, to marry a man and birth children. wtf. maybe im reading in between the lines to much but wtf.

[@Kayoss13212]

Gotta make you wonder, what was even the point of her training then? They basically Rey Palpathined her. Lol.

[@frogradar]

The best part of the original was that it didnt play with the idea Mulan was as strong as a man.she wasn't. She used her brain in every fight she had, she outsmarted the strength of warriors with strategy. It was brilliant and much more empowering than "be born with super powers or get fucked, ladies"

[@fabiofuoco]

Girl you’re not reading too much into it, that’s literally what the movie is saying! I mean why even add her sister?? I’ll tel you why, just so she can be the one messing the matchmaker test with the spider, and not perfect Mulan cause sHe HaS nO fEaR unlike other girls. It’s so bad I’m not even a girl but this feels like such a step back, especially since the 1998 (20+ years ago) original version had that figured out in such a brilliant way!

[@blueismylove3128]

@@fabiofuoco If adding the witch and the Phoenix made no sense, the sister made even less sense. In the original story doesn't she have.....a brother? Wouldn't having a little brother too young to fight in the war or just making her an only child again make more sense than giving her a sister? Like I really can't wrap my head around why that option was choosen over the two more logically options....

[@junhansguitar1036]

@@blueismylove3128 she didn’t have a brother but she referred to the family pet as ‘little brother’ i think...i haven’t watched mulan in a while so i could be wrong

[@tjc2121]

This movie really lacked the father/daughter relationship that the 1st one had. Like you're gonna throw away gold lines like "what beautiful blossoms we have this year but look one is late. But I bet when it blooms it will be the most beautiful of them all" and my favorite "the greatest gift and honor is having you for a daughter."

[@ariyatabassumabdullah1143]

please, the ending where he throws away the sord and kneels down to hug her makes me tear up every. single. time.

[@CeltycSparrow]

I agree. The ending to the REAL Mulan was beautiful. You SEE the love her father has for her. The sword and the medallion didn't matter to him. He was just happy to have her safely home. In this one, it felt like she was APOLOGIZING and ASHAMED of what she did. It cheapened what was meant to be a powerful moment.

[@diamondbaker5331]

Yeah, when I was younger the ending with Mulan and her father made me cry, especially with my daddy issues…but i digress. Also, in this “remake” the father’s raised voice (trying to make Mulan realize that honor is important) changed into something a lot more harsh and intense. He was also incredibly mean! Like, wtf?!

[@GummyDinosaursify]

Sorry but "It's my daughter that means a lot to me" is absolutely nothing compared to throwing the sword and the crest to the side to say "The greatest gift in honor is having you as a daughter". All this 'remake' did is show how amazing the first movie is.

[@xuapril32]

That scene in the original movie genuinely makes me tear up every time. It's so simple yet touching and the characters are just so well written, you really feel the father's love for Mulan and their connection in that moment. Whereas for this remake I was like lol ok that's great I really don't care at all about any of these people.

[@random_meta]

And the most emotional scene in this film was the death of the witch.. that had 2-3 interactions with mulan. What am I supposed to feel there?

[@kyrene2245]

I nearly pulled out my hair when he didn't say it in the remake

[@Caitctus]

THIS! The reunion in the remake does not make me feel anything, whereas even just re-reading the quote from the original film in your comment brought tears to my eyes, because of how powerful this scene was

[@claudiao7743]

This movie was a flop in every sense of the word :/

[@slayantics1580]

message of the movie: women can store arrows in the uterus

[@DD-gl3gx]

God I hope not! Imagine you sit the wrong way and bam you’re dead lmao

[@PizzaHutCEO]

This is a new and interesting fact. Thanks, Mulan!

[@jt-tq8lz]

@@DD-gl3gx jesus-

[@jademichelin3831]

@@DD-gl3gx i know for a fact i'd havea better posture

[@abbywolffe4114]

That's what your period is right It's when you're preparing for battle

[@torfinnzempel6123]

In the original Mulan, she had to struggle to learn to be a warrior (along with all the other men, no one was born being good at their job regardless of gender). She had to face her own insecurities and overcome them, and she wasn't stronger than anyone else. She overcame challanges by persevering, and by using her wits. In this version she is essentially a devine being and was just as good at being a warrior when she was 8 as she was when she went to war as an adult. And she was physically stronger than everyone else, bar none. In the OG Mulan we were taught that anyone can achieve great things worthy of being honored for if they persevere and use their wits. In this movie we are taught that if you are a devine being you can break the societal norms and be rewarded, but if you are not, then you are shameful and should be punished.

[@crossenmorgan]

THIS WAS SO WELL PUT I AGREE SO MUCH

[@torfinnzempel6123]

@@crossenmorgan thanks!

[@random_meta]

I mean.. the witch was "devine" and got killed, but I get your point. (The witch was a useless addition)

[@torfinnzempel6123]

@@random_meta well, that was a sacrifice which was ment to be a redemption. But yes, she really didn't seem to serve any real purpose to the plot.

[@alexandraquiroz1018]

@@torfinnzempel6123 Besides, that "redemption" was very flat in my opinion

[@persassyjackson8734]

And we enact the Percy Jackson rule, this movie doesn’t exist.

[@leannebalthazaar]

YES LMAO

[@KhanCanary]

This also applies to The Last Airbender

[@celunax]

i dont mind the first one but I don't like the second one lmao

[@unclewiley1986]

What Percy Jackson movies? Those were never made.

[@empyrealwonder]

yo i'm actually SO worried disney will mess up the tv series again this time round

[@chiyokosgarden4396]

i love that they said we have to make sure EVERYONE KNOWS that she’s a girl and sent girlie into battle with curled hair and no armour

[@kmxe3888]

The audacity of men 🤩

[@ashleighjune4956]

Lol especially since let's be real... Anyone know of any Asians with naturally curly hair like this?... If we going for historical accuracy I'm preeeettyyy sure we didn't have cutting irons at this time...

[@DrSeanKennedy]

@@ashleighjune4956 You think this is going for historical accuracy?

[@ashleighjune4956]

They definitely said they tried to so yes

[@janethebluemouse]

DrSeanKennedy that was their excuse when they cut out the singing and added a witch.

[@braytonaubree8989]

“If she doesn’t defeat him w/ a fan what’s the purpose of this movie?” Yeah, that’s pretty much all my thoughts

[@harperandrea4462]

The producers: Mulan is not a superhero ehe The movie: Mulan walks on the wall and jumps like Edward Cullen in war.

[@mayaashby9644]

NOT EDWARD💀💀

[@thgritic102]

The way I screeched 🤣

[@Weirdanimalboy]

She’s about as emotive as Edward Cullen tbh

[@melanyguzman5431]

Mulan is a super hero what she is not is a princess, mulan literally save whole china

[@mariangaonamode]

I really can’t escape twilight can I? I watched it two days ago and hated the ending the “imprinting” makes me uncomfortable

[@maririvperez5320]

Here’s my take: Mulan is the Captain Marvel of Disney live action movies. Disney wants so badly to be supportive of feminism, but in the process it makes it seem like only girls with special abilities can be with the boys. The original Mulan was intelligent, and powerful because she was smart. Adding Chi to her character made this movie less feminist than the original, making it seem like only girls born with abilities can be on equal ground as men. Disney really needs to stop

[@Doctor2285]

It also harkens back to Rey in Star Wars. She's just too powerful already and learns to use it immediately.

[@hali_55]

Exactly. OG Mulan was strong because she was brave, selfless and resilient

[@athenasn]

I think thats how it was in the true story or the same time period though, she did it with her father in the movie and it was a disgrace almost in the village like in the animation she brougbt dishonor but idk anyways they tried to do it differently and make it like how it would be in real life I guess idk except with chi u cant turn into an animal or such but instead connect and tie into nature and the environment

[@ninalily]

Disney did well when they made Brave, Princess and the Frog, and the original Mulan. Princess and the Frog is all about a woman who works hard. But I think these live action disney movies gives the company revenue it needs to be able to take risks in making new movies. It's a cash grab but it's also intended for new projects. Those projects better be amazing is also what I'm saying.

[@krystalbishop5940]

I agree, Disney makes it seems as though the OG princesses weren't strong female leads when in actuality they each were strong and had a lesson they learned/ taught their audience

[@fallingasleep1501]

If anyone’s wondering, they changed the plot and removed Mushu and the songs because apparently they offended actual Chinese people living in China. They didn’t like how Mushu made a mockery of dragons, which are a very sacred creature in Chinese culture, and the only song that Chinese people liked was Reflection. And they got rid of Li Shang because apparently there were some so-called unacceptable power dynamics between him and Mulan, being that Shang was her general. While I can understand them removing Mushu and the songs to stay truer to the original Ballad of Mulan, I don’t undertsand why they would then go and add in a totally new witch and chi into the story? And not hire a single Asian person in a main behind the cameras role? There was one single person of colour in the main creative roles (director, screenwriters, editors etc) and it was a black man. And the removal Li Shang makes no sense. Belle’s love interest is LITERALLY her captor who IMPRISONED HER for months, surely that’s got to have some wacky power dynamics? I’m pretty sure it was an excuse to get rid of character who maybe-could-have-been-head-cannoned-as bisexual

[@PutBoxOnMe]

Not to mention that Belle’s love interest was basically an animal for the entire movie

[@crossenmorgan]

EXACTLY IT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH

[@brookiecookie2293]

If yall ever watch Chinese Dramas the f***ing CEO MARRIES HIS EMPLOYER OR EVEN THE GENERAL GOES OUT WITH THEIR UNDERLING. SO I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY SHANG ISNT THERE.

[@random_meta]

@@brookiecookie2293 exactly! And in Mulan, Shang and her got together WAY after the movies timeline.

[@Kaaaaaaafire17]

@@brookiecookie2293 when the op said something about power dynamics I was like "hmm, so all them C-dramas that I watched are no good for Chinese government??" LMAO, director said anything to excuse her bad movie.

[@cookieful1218]

The Mulan live action movie is like 2020. I had high expectations but ended with large amounts of disappointment

[@ZaDe2002]

I lowered my expectations with every Disney reboot🤦🏽‍♀️

[@_the_little_mermaid_]

@@ZaDe2002 to think that they keep making more is beyond my understanding 🥴🤢

[@elizabethcuevas3728]

@@_the_little_mermaid_ no beauty and the beast and Aladdin were good

[@_the_little_mermaid_]

@@elizabethcuevas3728 Emma was a terrible Belle and Aladdin was decent but I cringed at the CGI effects

[@elizabethcuevas3728]

@@_the_little_mermaid_ Emma wasn’t that bad and Aladdin was great and gave me nostalgia

[@toadt0ad]

this movie is genuinely so dull and unnecessary

[@emilyrodriguez2203]

they try to make it super colorful but its badly executed like nice cinematography doesn't add up to make a great movie when everything else is below average

[@avakinliana5212]

It has a very important lesson in it

[@avakinliana5212]

Every disney princess comes with a lesson to share and this entire movie had a lesson .the entire movie is a very important lesson

[@thunderbird3304]

@@avakinliana5212 Just because a movie has good lessons/themes doesn't mean it's good. Put execution first before the themes

[@jazmine3213]

@@avakinliana5212 which is?

[@xxkaneesxx]

“We want to make it more realistic* Includes mulan being Spider-Man. I mean WHEN in the original was she able to walk on walls, HUH

[@missserenity1090]

That part is actually fine with me because in Chinese dramas they like to add in effects like running up and across walls. I just don’t like that they were able to do it because of “chi” which they tried to make into a version of a magical force and that’s not what it is.

[@XOmangoXO]

On your point at the end about adding music taking away from the serious tone, the scene in the original movie where they're singing A Girl Worth Fighting For and it's interrupted suddenly by the war scene felt darker and more startling than all of this movie

[@fabiofuoco]

I wanted to say the exact thing! It really serves that purpose of making the war seem like a “game” to them to actually being taken as a serious thing (in fact there are no songs from that moment on) and removing it takes away from the darkness they wanted to amplify.

[@elizatreaty2643]

Also, the symbolism when “I’ll make a man out of you” plays in the background as they cross-dress as women to take back the palace from the Huns.

[@chlojo1231]

That's what immediately came to my mind too! Also Shang's dad dying really helped in slamming the seriousness of Mulan's situation back into the tone of the movie.

[@devilovesdevil]

When the red and gloom of the scene contrasted to the light white snow and happy tone it was a stark contrast of how this was no joking matter. Even the quick glance down at all the fallen soldiers when Shang receives his father's helmet from Chien Po.

[@FloreMar-yp3iz]

My question is, if they wanted it to be serious, but also be Mulan... Why couldn't they put AT LEAST an instrumental version of the songs?

[@ToastKnight_]

The people who wrote the Mulan remake were given a DVD version of Wendy Wu, locked in a room and told to "figure it out". They decided to make a prequel for the Wendy Wu Cinematic Universe.

[@isaofaeaea]

Wendy Wu was great. This was a garbagefire

[@ToastKnight_]

@@isaofaeaea But it's an incredible Wendy Wu prequel.

[@casstheshifter2176]

"I should stop calling children bitches." -Trin, 2020

[@fagioli7063]

My biggest turn off about the movie is how Mulan didn't need to get stronger. She's already strong, and the reason Mulan has always been my favorite disney princess is because it shows her growth and how you can do anything you put your mind to regardless who tells you otherwise. And the movie somehow failed to acknowledge the main point of the movie. They turned her into this superhuman person and you don't see growth in this movie at all.

[@crossenmorgan]

exactly I don’t see how this is supposed to be empowering for young girls

[@fagioli7063]

@@crossenmorgan Exactly that was the whole point of Mulan, showing girls they don't need to be the sterotypical dress up princess like Cinderella (nothing wrong with traditonally feminine woman). That's why I love the movies Mulan and Brave.

[@livvlife]

Plus, in this movie what was her character even? What’s her personality? She didn’t grow or improve and woke character’s we’re missing and two many were added

[@krishbillimoria7364]

Facts but SHES not a princess

[@HushIAmTalking]

Not them saying that they didn’t make it a musical bc the subject was too dark and serious like Les Mis isn’t one of the most famous & well loved musicals ever.

[@crossenmorgan]

EXACTLY

[@sophielalancette672]

sweeney todd as well.

[@trailblazer225]

And Rent is literally about the AIDS epidemic

[@Monie71793]

🤦🏽‍♀️💀💀

[@killanelle]

okay but WHY did she let her hair down in a BATTLE???? it'll just get in the way of her being able to see!!

[@luthientinuviel3883]

I KNOW RIGHT?!?

[@JoaoPedro-yk7iq]

not to mention enemies could easily just pull it.......?

[@PiranhaSatan]

and she let her hair down to show that she was a woman.... but men had long hair then too???

[@hailey7368]

I think it was supposed to be a signal of "feminism" but yeah...not ideal in battle lol

[@needmeachillplaylistforstu3495]

@@hailey7368 which doesn't make sense either because men in that time also had long hair sdkfd

[@lunab4293]

In the animated movie when they were singing “a girl worth fighting for” when they stopped at the burned down village a thing I loved was that they were talking about women taht they are interested in but in the village they find a doll for a little girl and they see that another girl worth fighting for would be a little girl

[@ts3450]

Producers : how can we make this movie better Writers : sexy Phoenix??

[@halfdemonprince]

We all knew Disney has been furry baiting people since Robin Hood.

[@ts3450]

@@halfdemonprince absolutely

[@snailsoren]

they made mulan's father such an asshole in this .. like in the original, he was a nice dude and you felt bad for him but in this he's kind of scary wtf 😭

[@aloka_karunathilaka7159]

I never watched the original but seeing Dylan react to it I fell in love with the father

[@tvdsje]

@@aloka_karunathilaka7159 just remember the dad is not actually dying lol

[@heytheredelayla8152]

And let’s not forget that they filmed close to Uyghur re-education camps.

[@fresh_vanilla]

exactly, it scares me that not that many people know about them

[@madinadautova3618]

Exactly!

[@isobelduncan]

Oh shit!

[@jasballzz2798]

apparently you can see them in the back of some scenes but idk if that is true or not

[@christineaikhuele184]

@@jasballzz2798 um.. idk about that. Where did you see that?

[@ellie5560]

the whole point of Mulan was that she WASN’T some special powerful person, but she found the power and strength within herself when she chose to take her father’s place in the army. it’s her realising she has the ability to be strong, she starts out being kind of a mess, like the best fucking song in the whole movie is of her training and becoming a warrior. kinda loses its impact if she’s already this all-around special warrior to begin with

[@lh2293]

I'll make a man out of you is for me the most woman empowering song! She grew strong and even outmatched the other men! This movie sucked and I have to re-listen to the original soundtrack to whopp this $hit out of my memory 😭😭😭😭

[@tamaramagwaro4136]

she had to work for her position

[@user-yo5yr9yr2h]

Movie: cuts out scene of her cutting her hair because it's not historically accurate Also Movie: uses a scene of her letting her hair down to reveal she's a woman.

[@kenadielise7780]

Ikr

[@_serenity3298]

That was one of my favorite parts growing up, I would even cut my mulan doll's hair too

[@andreadomenech5225]

@@_serenity3298 omg SAME, I cut my mulans doll hair like in the original🤣

[@dimatadore]

Also one of the messages of the original Mulan is that all girls can be brave, so by making her “special” in this version it defeats the message that ordinary people can do extraordinary things.

[@taliyahsdiary3620]

The writers were like: we are NOT going to have ANY singing, talking dragons, or Li Shang. But WITCHES 👀

[@crystalwang1532]

I mean most classical literature is just like fantasy versions of things that really happened. So I’m not even mad about the witches part, im mad they just yeeted the whole theme and point of the original story/ballad

[@7drpeppercans558]

@@crystalwang1532 I wouldn't have had a problem with it if they didn't advertise this version as being realistic.

[@anib8863]

@@hotcuteloyalabg1439 Disney keeps saying that, but guess what?: There isn't a witch in the original poem, Mulan doesn't have magical powers, no phoenix is present (also chinese phoenixes don't rise from the ashes) and Qi (chi) is LIFE FORCE not some magical superpower, all living creatures have life force, saying "women shouldn't have qi" is like saying they shouldn't have blood. This movie is an insult to the original poem.

[@abbywolffe4114]

The director: Mulan is not a superhero Mulan: **backflips off everything, has magical abilities, already skilled at everything she does, gets help from a literal witch**

[@karisdietrich1964]

Mulan literally was a normal woman in the animation! I’m so confused as to where the directors vision was.

[@emma472]

I think it’s an ode to Chinese kung fu movies which as a Chinese person I really appreciate and love

[@aSECRETSproduction]

The behind the scenes had the character on wires and mechanism. Like wtf they couldn’t even just do badass real stunts. Not like crazy prequel force flips

[@emma472]

@@aSECRETSproduction true, fair point, but have you actually watched a Chinese kung fu movie? There’s a TON of wire stunt work which adds to the magic and charm

[@larazwayne7496]

AND THE FACT THAT THEY FILMED THIS NEXT TO THE MUSLIMS THEY’RE TORTURING IS FUCKED UP

[@gisel00]

where did u hear that

[@QuikVidGuy]

@@gisel00 the credits of the movie

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

@@gisel00 also a lot of news outlets got the info of where filming was taking place which was close to the camps

[@deathtrope]

When I found out about this I didn’t want to watch the live action Mulan and I don’t plan to.

[@deathtrope]

That’s so messed up

[@rebeccajang2405]

“This is not Mulan anymore, this is just... ‘cHiNeSe MoViE’” 😂😂 love you Trin

[@mcpheefan21]

Seriously this just feels like every other non-popular martial arts movie that's been bootlegged to youtube.

[@Strawbri3]

@@mcpheefan21 😪 right

[@mcpheefan21]

@@Strawbri3 I see you know who Hwang Hyunjin is ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@auto1ooxd572]

I was scrolling through the comments when she said that and I was just about to comment it then I saw this 😂

[@Strawbri3]

@@mcpheefan21 yes ma’am I see you do to😏

[@maxy2398]

The original Mulan did an amzing job portraying the seriousness of war, after they find the destroyed village, the movie stops being a musical. The shock literally cuts "a girl worth fighting for" and after that, there are no more musical numbers

[@charlotter949]

Dude that transition aways makes me cry. I literally remember watching it as a child and thinking how absolutely terrible war is

[@imbibesyourlunae]

I never noticed that til now oh my-

[@tvdsje]

Never noticed it had no real songs after that. So smart man....why did Disney refuse to rematch their own movie and hire actual Chinese experts on the writing team -.-

[@tvdsje]

Rewatch *

[@andreadomenech5225]

Another reason to especially move on from this movie to do something acceptable

[@TheIrishKat]

Trin getting progressively angrier at everything in this movie was me when i watched it lol, totally disrespected the original movie

[@lightyagami4535]

My mom made me watch this with her and I was pretend to use the computer for drawing references, but in actuality I was looking at this one gif saying “What can I say except delete this?” and I just kept looking at the gif whenever an especially stupid scene came on.

[@hat7475]

Same

[@booorue4876]

Mulan idgaf if your old self died YOU STILL NEED ARMOUR ON THE BATTLEFIELD-

[@marshmallow927]

FOR REAL THO?like I know I’d get shot in the titty

[@dorkywhovian1018]

I know right!?!? I literally said that out loud while watching that scene. Like i get it, you're having your moment of self-realisation with your freshly curled hair blowing in the wind, BUT YOU STILL NEED ARMOUR! gah it was so dumb

[@incognitoburrito7458]

She did not need to get rid of that and to let her hair down too🤦‍♀️!? Mulan, you can’t see with all that hair in your eyes.

[@Crawlingdreams418]

you forgot the confession when the general explicitly stated that women were not allowed in the military. that is some darwin award dumbassery

[@mollsypops2002]

And it’s her FATHER’S that he probably cherishes and might have cost a lot, like- 😳🙄

[@jadynb.2092]

The bad thing is they didn’t even put the most powerful scene where she cuts her hair

[@sewerrat9875]

They took it out for accuracy reasons

[@isaofaeaea]

@@sewerrat9875 but they added a witch who could shapeshift?

[@morales415]

I think it's sarcasm..

[@heatherjosefina534]

@@isaofaeaea honestly the creators are so hypocritical with their choices

[@jeromeazarcon6755]

in ancient china neither men nor women ever cut their hair unless it was like a punishment or something. but yeah they added a damn witch -_-

[@nicolojacinto13]

no one: literally no one: trin: the phoenix is ✨s e x y✨

[@sandyqinyu4869]

honestly i like peacocks more

[@springheartedtiger]

The Phoenix looked like a kite

[@Asmamx6]

AND THE FACT THAT THEY FIMLED THIS NEXT TO THE MUSLIMS THEY’RE TORTURING IS FUCKED UP

[@smhsav]

Wait what happened

[@goremilk8542]

EXACTLY!

[@randomhuman2992]

ANOTHER reason this movie is just terrible Ughh throw the whole thing away delete it burn it act like it never existed

[@mohammedislam5516]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

[@purplecupboards]

THEY KNEW TOO!!! ITS NOT LIKE THEY WERE IN THE FARK ABOUT ANYTHING, THEY KNEW AND DID NOTHING WHEN MANY OF THEM HAVE A PLATFORM TO INEVT CHANGE!!!!

[@emilyrodriguez2203]

The editing on this movie was ATROCIOUS. my mom couldn't tell that it was bad but me and my dad were cracking up it was such weird editing lmaoo

[@ShervaanBaros]

Thank you! I noticed this as well and had a good laugh lol

[@wa4645]

There were so many scenes that were straight up an eye sore. At this point I don't even wanna know who's the director...

[@melspurgatory]

Exactly! I watched Milan for the first time this past weekend with my brother, and we noticed how bad the editing was lol. I was very confused with the cuts and what was happening with some scenes.

[@wangkong905]

It was so horrible. I thought they might have been doing it on purpose but it was so inconsistent and just bad.

[@emilyrodriguez2203]

@@melspurgatory it looked rly cheap like they didn't want to stay on a shot for too long so it made it awkward. i think it would be much better if they allowed for some longer shots which would have made it more impactful. i was like... didn't they wanted to make this a more serious movie in the first place?

[@kiaverodriguez6529]

I would sum these movies up like this: Mulan (2020): “I wanna be like Mulan!” Mulan (1998): “I am Mulan!”

[@em_miri]

i showed my mom and dad the sword and they started laughing and said that no one in chinese history ever carved random words onto their swords. also as someone else has pointed out the words on her sword are literally the fbi's motto which really says something

[@PyanY]

Lol and they are in normal size modern fonts of characters.

[@Melaramaa]

The ccp is coming for us 😧

[@Dtzeo503]

wow good analyzation. i'm not even Chinese and i didn't know what that said lol.

[@devonmunn5728]

@@Dtzeo503 yeah Xiran Jay Zhao pointed this out in her excellent video

[@CHRF-55457]

wtf lmao bruh

[@bonjouremily]

they literally were like "we're changing a lot in the live action because we wanted it to be more realistic and accurate :^)" and then didn't do either of that so what even is the POINT

[@Melaramaa]

Trin really came for this movie's NECK and I'm livinggg for it. She basically explained everything I didn't like about this movie. Absolutely NOTHING about it is cohesive

[@may.k222]

Petition for Trin to watch the animated Mulan and restore balance to the universe ✌🏻

[@natalieabney3082]

I sign

[@tamaramagwaro4136]

*Avatar theme song starts playing*

[@mailefirenze4782]

exactly what i was thinking we need a watch the mulan original party!!!

[@Jesujej]

she should also react to woke reactions and their cancellation of that animation film.

[@oliviatjx]

she should watch mulan 2009 as well:))

[@urnottea]

they literally shot the whole training sequence in a freakin concentration camp. like this movie just does not exist

[@jaym18082]

WAIT REALLY😳

[@jahzaramarage8307]

@@jaym18082 also in the credits the producers thanked the Chinese government of Xinjiang which is where the concentration camps are

[@jaym18082]

@@jahzaramarage8307 oh that’s really messed up.Ty for telling me

[@urnottea]

@@jaym18082 yeah if u type "mulan filmed in concentration camps" you'll get several news articles about it

[@AHealthyDoseofFran]

Someone else said it but wanna add it again for those disappointed by this poor unspeakable film. Mulan Rise of a Warrior is a Chinese film on the story of Mulan that looks at her 10 year war journey, is actually accurate enough to the poem of Mulan, and IS BADASS AS HELL. It is available on Amazon Prime and on KZbin too

[@TheJeannag]

So glad someone mentioned this! That was such a good film that did everything this film claimed it was trying to - respecting Chinese history and culture, removing the songs and animals out of respect and for accuracy, showcasing the horrors of a war - while also managing to respect the original story beats and Mulan's journey.

[@char388]

Can we talk about how Mulan literally took off all of her protective armor before plunging into battle??

[@shisexee]

They are trying to say "she is a very strong women" like the animated movie

[@frogradar]

@@shisexee except in the original it wasnt her choice. She won the fight, got hurt then discovered. So they even butchered the reason whhy she has no armour

[@shisexee]

@@frogradar ik, but a lot of movies are being made that way today

[@fabiofuoco]

@@shisexee “that way” by pulling things out of their ass and patting themselves on the back for being “progressive” and shit.

[@MasoTrumoi]

@@shisexee that's a shitty reason to do something. There's more to film making than just doing what other movies do.

[@xojocelynxo]

i’m just so mad that they literally ran out the father/daughter dynamic. “the greatest honor of all, is having you as a daughter.” like the last thing mulan’s father said to her in the original was “i know my place, it’s time you learn yours.” it just hit harder and the whole purpose of having the last scene was to show that they had a close relationship. but this movie took it away bc if the sister. in this movie, the dad is just like “you’re my daughter i love you” and it doesn’t emphasize how he sees her as an honorable soldier. idk man this shit enraged me beyond all means

[@Teresa-tx7uw]

I agree. It's what bothers me the most. The ending! It should have been about Mulan and the father, not with the soldiers giving her a new sword and a job. It loses one of the best messages that Mulan has

[@julisaranita]

Exactly, in the animated one they do it so well that he doesn’t even have to say that he loves her and only cares that she’s back safely. She comes with the medal and the sword to try to show him what she has accomplished to “bring honor” to their family, but he casts all that aside and hugs her. Which shows he acknowledges her for being herself.

[@rockywalter7017]

disney: we wanted this movie to be realistic, so no dragon, humor, or songs also disney: we added a feminist animal witch who paints her face and turns into a thousand birds sometimes

[@FellDownTheCornHole]

Right even during the darkest times there’s always moment of humor. And the songs made the animated one better.

[@saanvik4898]

she isnt a feminist, shes a pick me

[@crystalwang1532]

Saanvi K She was a pick me out of necessity but as soon as she was like “imma stand beside this other woman, fuck you for treating me like shit Mongol army”, they fucking killed her.

[@crimeyfruit5676]

instead of a dragon, let’s add a Phoenix because thats totally more realistic than a dragon

[@dejaalese6348]

Why make it Disney then kids are watching this expecting humor and songs and Dragons talkin cuz it's Disney for kids and stuff like that why make it Disney's not going to have anything like it might as well be like a Warner Bros movie or something or documentary

[@lilygrace298]

I whole scene with her father at the dinner table telling her to “know her place” was done ALL WRONG. In the REAL Milan movie her father always believed in her and loved her, but because he loved her, he feared society and their expectations. He was never mad at her when he said it in the REAL movie, he was just trying to protect her. It doesn’t make it right to say that but the point is he wasn’t insulting her or trying to demean her.

[@enriquesanchez9016]

Exactly. In this movie he's just a patriarchal asshole. In the original movie (yep, the real movie as you said) he's a respectable man who cares deeply about his daughter.

[@pattilikestodraw]

I feel one of the little details they really missed out on in the remake is how Mulan is really shown to be clever and witty at the start, like her personality is that she comes up with a lot of smart solutions to her chores and stuff :(( And later she has to balance her physical strength with that. This film really did the original dirty :(

[@michellep6417]

This movie was a disgrace to the original Mulan story

[@dsong6863]

Not even Zuko talked about honour this much oml

[@juliahager6678]

A+ work

[@SrahhM]

Well you’re not wrong....

[@hat7475]

Nice one 😭

[@catherinemaclary5985]

I hate that mulans dad was rude to her he was so sweet and kind to her in the other one

[@raveneasonsmith806]

same I felt so disrespected cuz he was such a sweetheart

[@ClassicGameFire]

I love how mulan basically ASKS to be executed. It’s not like “oh i showed my true self so i can be at peace” its “oh look i lied so i deserve to die” the message they were conveying is really weird.

[@basktbalG]

“I am going in very judgmental, and not with a clear head or unbiased opinions” I’m gonna start using this now 😂😂😭

[@mckiefrost3825]

Trin giving us them vocals Mulan couldn’t

[@indiras3452]

Fr! Had me singing along with her

[@delsongreene8770]

Was legit thinking the same

[@ayomidedeborah_]

purr

[@mickyjoe97]

Trin fangirling over Ming Na-Wen is literally me when I was watching this movie. I would've preferred a live action sequel to the original animated movie just for Ming to be the main star and reprise the role.

[@isabelleeccles1138]

When will Disney realises that we don’t want remakes anymore

[@kiakamill]

Sadly probably when ppl stop paying them to see em when they put in theaters e.e

[@absolutew33b]

@@kiakamill Not gonna happen anytime soon since Disney+ exist. I think people are only paying for the subscription just so that they could watch The Mandalorian tbh.

[@heizenka446]

I think the only princess disney that seems accurate even when made in real life: CINDERELLA

[@tink6225]

the only one im watching is the litlle mermaid by halle bailey and i hope they allow her talent to really shine

[@isabelleeccles1138]

@@tink6225 I’m looking forward to that too. Although I wasn’t too happy about Melissa McCartney being cast as Ursula though. I feel like she’ll make her more comedic

[@AIVILO_444]

Trin’s literally wearing the most simple outfit yet she looks absolutely beautiful 🥺🥺🥺

[@ciarafirth6784]

I know!

[@gabisasantos]

When Disney doesn’t film in a US state cus of abortion laws but ends up filming in Xinjiang where they have muslim camps 😃

[@nattiemar]

this is just a period drama version of wendy wu homecoming warrior

[@Simi_Tutu]

Omg 😂

[@hypnotisized]

don't disrespect wendy wu like this 😭

[@yukikanegawa7470]

At least Wendy had personality

[@nattiemar]

@@hypnotisized damn youre so right

[@nattiemar]

@@yukikanegawa7470 tea

[@h_nnies]

The Witch and Mulan were enemies to lovers af

[@thgritic102]

Radiates that energy for real!

[@Jamie-sg4bq]

"We're taking out the songs and the dragon to make it more historically accurate" *swaps the dragon for a Phoenix and adds a witch *

[@empyrealwonder]

The costumes in this movie are so tacky, the team obviously didn’t do enough research 😩 even low budgets Cdramas have more authentic looking period pieces than this 200 mill budget movie.

[@earf2ayla]

the budget was 600 million... and THIS is what they made?!?

[@luthientinuviel3883]

It honestly looks like a kid's Mulan play in places

[@willdrew2803]

and the chi? yes researchers ya got that right chi=superpowers they’re synonymous

[@karisdietrich1964]

They didn’t even try to make a good movie in my opinion.

[@needmeachillplaylistforstu3495]

the costume designer for the movie (a white woman) apparently mentioned that the research they did for the costumes was *going to museums in europe and looking at the asian section* i shit you fucking not

[@harperandrea4462]

Mushu would be disappointed. I am glad he is not in this trash. DISHONOR ON YOUR COW

[@lepotato.0]

You mean DISHONOR?

[@blueismylove3128]

It says edited and yet still says "disowned" instead of "dishonor" 🤨😂😂

[@harperandrea4462]

@@blueismylove3128 Oh sorry I never realized it when I was writing this in the middle of the night.😂 Lemme fix it.💕

[@clementine1827]

*Holds up a fake hand microphone* *has a microphone right in front of her* 😂😭

[@kaysiematija8915]

i feel bad for people that bought this movie for 30 dollars bc it sucks

[@ninalily]

And to think I was going to spend the 30 dollars to see it. Thank goodness I decided to wait. I honestly thought this was going to be the best disney live action remake. Didn't turn out that way.

[@arizz8457]

yeah I thought I’d see live action Shang and Mushu and got neither

[@sariyum]

i wanted to cry after i bought it , it was so bad

[@piperboatright7132]

We bought the movie the day it came out. RIP. This movie was my last hope for Disney live action and TWAS SQUASHED.

[@kaysiematija8915]

@@arizz8457OMG i watched to see them so bad that was the thing over all that made me hate this movie

[@pleasant2823]

I'm transgender Female to Male, and when Mulan got stabbed with the throwing star to the chest but was protected by the binder she was using to look like she had a flat chest, I literally yelled: YES BINDERS SAVE LIVES!

[@jiminsuga5803]

I‘m non-binary and I bind aswell! haha thought the exact same❤️

[@CaptainCJ97]

What...

[@dmeyer6779]

@@CaptainCJ97 what?

[@jimenamedrano3887]

I remember being so excited that one of my favorite Disney Princess movies was going to get a live action remake and then every single change they did was a punch to the face: no Li Shang, no songs, no Mushu, no cricket, no grandma, there’s a sister now, she has Chi and is not like other girls, there’s no Yao, no Ling, no Chien-Po, the general doesn’t even die and the whole point of Mulan that I really like is that perseverance and hard work is necessary in order to achieve what you want; also, yeah it’s PG, yeah it’s a musical but the thing that I love about that is that when the song A Girl Worth Fighting For comes on as they’re traveling to meet with the other regimen is so lighthearted and fun and it symbolizes how none of the soldiers have seen war, they just finished training and are going to meet up with the other regiment, BUT the song just cuts off abruptly when they arrive and see the regimen literally massacred and THAT is such a powerful moment in the movie that shows the horrors of war and after that moment there are no more songs in the movie and I love that symbolism and it’s a downright disgrace to name this movie Mulan when they basically spit on the original Honestly the ONLY reason I watched it was because the actress who voiced the original Mulan would introduce the new Mulan and I loved that symbolism of passing off the torch to the new generation but now I’m like, she should have kept the torch Ps: I have read that there IS a Chinese version of the Ballad of Mulan and it’s very well made, it actually tells the original story (in which I think that Mulan went to the army with the blessing of her father after proving that she could defeat him in battle and that’s pretty neat) I haven’t seen it but I have heard that it’s a well made film that stays true to the story so if anyone wants to check that out that’ll be cool too

[@caleblim6890]

Actually, since it was a live action, I not only expected, I *wanted* no cricket, no mushu, no singing, and a more historically accurate depiction of Mulan’s role in the war against the invaders. Those were the only necessary changes. Everything else Disney added was disgusting and shit.

[@psychoticcosplay711]

In regards to the sister thing, in the original source material, the poem, and the animated movie, Mulan has a little brother, since he was underage, he couldn’t fight in the war, so that’s why her father took the job. In the poem his name is (I think) literally Brother, but I the animated movie he is a dog that is named Brother. That’s the one this that kind of pissed me off, the fact that they said it would be closer to the source material but didn’t even make the sister a brother. That’s just what I remember, I learned this years ago so I cant exactly remember how much is factual. :)

[@jacksonthompson8012]

“The Phoenix is the sexiest bird alive and I will NOT elaborate on that.” BRUH SJF WOBSBFND

[@laurenkok6004]

mulan and the witch had so much sexual tension the whole time

[@arealpterodactyle4716]

If they added this into the movie I might have forgiven them for the rest.

[@cjanie19]

omg we needed a gay love story. That would’ve improved it sooo much

[@laurarojas3245]

clueless don nahh im sorry, with the muslim camps and no songs and no mushu nor the whole essence of the character...

[@franknstein5376]

Thank you!! The moment they appeared on the screen together I was like "I ship it"

[@Cereal_Psycho]

Trin singing "Reflection" throughout the whole movie is literally everything 😂😂😂

[@fshomarlen]

just know i’m your backing vocals while you sing “i’ll make a man out of you”

[@ZaDe2002]

Saammee I was literally singing with her😂

[@jennab.6723]

Same 💕

[@elizabethcuevas3728]

Same I thought it was just me

[@elvinslaughter105]

same

[@JinxyKat]

same omg

[@ositaiza888]

it feels weird that the whole point she had to hide her chi was bc she was a women but... men in the movie don't have that kind of chi??? so her using her chi isn't masculine it's just inhuman

[@whack6102]

It's even weirder when you remember that chi is a life force that flows through all things, comparable to blood. It's like saying, "wield your blood." Like, what?

[@amanda55772]

jet li the emperor does

[@emmabax2361]

I cannot fucking BELIEVE THEY DIDNT HAVE THE SCENE WITH THE DOLL. IT GIVES ME CHILLS EVERY TIME

[@lucyshaw1738]

Mulan was also filmed near the sites of Uighyr muslim concentration camps so there was also a boycott mulan campaign so that's another reason it did bad tbh.

[@evie3673]

THIS

[@Wemderssss]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@585Courtney]

Also Christianity/Catholicism /Jewdaism is forbid there as well and people have to go underground to practice ..

[@lucyshaw1738]

@@585Courtney Omg I didn't know this aswell, thank you for telling me!

[@marieltinsay9465]

the main actress also supported the ccp invasion in hong kong or something like that so extra ew for me

[@otterzrkuhl]

I don’t understand why she would get rid of her armor.

[@duckymomo3615]

IKR!! I thought the same thing. Like, Mulan are you dumb? Chi won’t stop a 3 foot sword going through your body. 😂

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Her plot armor is stronger then armor-armor.

[@tink6225]

tiddies save lives

[@random_meta]

Let's remove the thing that saved our life 5 minutes ago

[@otterzrkuhl]

Random Meta exactly!

[@sofiamec8767]

"If the movie had a scent, it would be ass." LMFAO! 🤣💀

[@booorue4876]

All I got from that movie was "Yeah sure women can fight with men but ONLY if they have magical abilities." The original Mulan is giving a message that despite what society says women are just as capable as men and then this one is like "yeah society is right. But superpowers go brrrrr"

[@deeviousrat]

i love how her armor saved her and then she immediately took it off and was like “nah i don’t need it”

[@nolebole]

“You are an impostor” “Fa Mulan has been ejected”

[@arizonatea9434]

Them: "we want it to be more historically accurate" Also them: sends mulan back into battle against a solid 6 dudes with lucious curls and no armor

[@calebray1834]

Right, if she survived that she would be dead by execution.

[@AnaCamp001]

Actually, there's a 2009 live action Chinese movie, it's a million times better and closer to the real legend of Mulan. Not the Disney with songs and fantasy animals tho.

[@autumnpoe4612]

Wait wait wait! Tell me more!

[@AnaCamp001]

@@autumnpoe4612 ^^ It's called Hua Mulan and it's a bit more raw, more action, more drama, more love, more sacrifices... I won't say it's a masterpiece but it's wayyyy better than this one, from the production to the plot even to the acting. The cartoon one is a good family movie, but it doesn't stick totally to some things from the actual legend, specially the ending. This one does, definitely not child appropriate but funny enough is closer to the cartoon one than this with witches the chi and all that nonsense. I cried quite a bit when I saw it years ago.

[@dozeyrosie645]

@@autumnpoe4612 It's on KZbin. Just search Mulan 2009.

[@_nic0]

There is also another chinese movie of Mulan that came out this year

[@helenasobreiro9641]

Yess! I thought the disney version would be similar, honestly This was just a disappointment

[@haom1811]

The movie turned out shit but also the fact that it was filmed next to the concentration camps and they thanked them for letting them film there pisses me off even more Disney really went downhill

[@itboyjungkook832]

sorry but that woman was the most expressionless actress I have ever seen

[@alexandraquiroz1018]

True I think she could do well in modeling, because she has a serious face and she go with the standard (which I think is wrong) that is usually had in the catwalk modeling industry.

[@sjskowjdjbgqg]

acting queeen

[@andrikfelix6507]

Kristen Stewart who?

[@agentpheebles]

Does anybody else love how her nails match so perfectly with her necklace?

[@MARYWTHER]

"I don't know his name" His name is Bland Boy.

[@Ri-cl7go]

Just like how ATLA the movie doesn’t exist this also doesn’t exist

[@ayomidedeborah_]

what alta movie😉?

[@ryandamario6595]

@@ayomidedeborah_ Attack of The Live Action

[@absolutew33b]

@@ayomidedeborah_ Avatar The Last Airbender. But I don't remember them having a live action movie. Just like how Dragonball didn't have a live adaptation.

[@Victoria-_]

There is no Last Airbender in Ba Sing Se

[@swordsmithing]

It's funny, I was actually thinking the two movies are really alike while watching this one. Both are based on fun, Asian-inspired animated properties, both are overly serious and dull, both cut out all the characters' development, and both awkwardly introduce magic martial art powers without properly explaining them. I think Mulan was probably the better of the two, but both films are real duds.