‘I went forward rather than back’: NYT photographer who captured Trump shooting

[@winstonsmith8565]

Four comments on this video taken down. What's the point of erasing comments when thousands of videos are telling the truth about what happened Saturday?

[@tinay9491]

how do you know

[@winstonsmith8565]

@@tinay9491 For one, there's cellphone footage from the crowd. And no, those vids are not 'cheap fakes'

[@jeremyparker6060]

KZbin censorship is getting out of control

[@kassandrasilver]

Tell me Andrea and Doug: why is that bullet traveling Parallel to the ground? I thought the sniper was on a roof shooting downward. Strike you as strange?

[@spankyssurprise1361]

Trump was on a stage.

[@sarahwood3888]

They must have taken down my reply, agreeing with you

[@zombywoof1072]

It's very close to being parallel, not exactly parallel. And are you all that good at figuring out angles in a 2 dimensional image? All this conspiracy crude is getting tiresome already.

[@winstonsmith8565]

The censorrship over Saturday is unreal

[@PavlovsDog-kl8mo]

Be careful! You just mentioned Saturday. Oh crap! Bye bye 👋

[@jacked-666]

Maybe you should go somewhere else.

[@zombywoof1072]

It's a problem all over KZbin and it's been going on for more than a week. I've had several innocuous comments disappear from innocuous videos.

[@kathleenmann7311]

A Russian bot farm in the USA was busted a few weeks ago

[@scillyautomatic]

@@winstonsmith8565 I've discovered several words we can't say. Simple words but the Minders won't allow any facts that might raise questions about this add min.

[@karencovington8357]

Not the president. Former president. Get it correct.

[@Discus1948]

Hater with TDS

[@88nlinus]

Trump is The president

[@88nlinus]

Vote MAGA

[@captivehonor3764]

My guy got shot, discharged himself from the hospital same day, and was on the golf course at 9am. Your guy can't wake up till noon and routinely gets defeated by a stairwell.

[@FourDollaRacing]

@@captivehonor3764 Your guy is in the *courthouse* , not the White House.... 🙄

[@myohmy7368]

Media needs to tone down the hate. Media has a hard time self monitoring itself. It's gotten extremely hateful and toxic.

[@SheliaH-yo2lp]

😅

[@metoo6599]

That picture is astounding.

[@dudleybaggerman9574]

And STOP TAKING DOWN PEOPLES COMMENTS !! IF U CAN'T STAND THE HEAT STAY HOME

[@Linda-u6o8g]

It's u tube that's taking down people's comments, they have taken down 5 of mine today, there doing the same to a lot of people

[@montana_patriot]

They are complicit

[@montana_patriot]

@@Linda-u6o8g it's why KZbin needs to lose their part 230 protections or lose their Monopoly on online video.

[@dudleybaggerman9574]

@@montana_patriot there are acting like two face Punks and Disrespecting there Viewer's , Lester interview with Joe Biden was Disgraceful there acting like fox fake liar's news

[@winstonsmith8565]

@@montana_patriot Yet they never took down people engaging in H Word Speech prior to Saturday and even ignored those of us who reported them.

[@markmierzejewski9534]

Never forget that President Bush Jr had two shoes thrown at him!

[@johnconnor1847]

Let’s talk about your service?

[@markmierzejewski9534]

@@johnconnor1847 OPSEC.

[@Toekneepowers]

@@markmierzejewski9534 Hello stolen valor.

[@Toekneepowers]

@@johnconnor1847 We all know it’s just some kid playing video games.

[@mile_high_topher]

@@Toekneepowers You know how I know you're projecting?

[@2lightfoundation721]

The censorship on KZbin is becoming absolutely absurd.

[@Shadowman-1960]

They are panicking big time!

[@andrewpinson1268]

Just curious when YT takes a comment down, can the person who made it still see it or only everyone else cannot see it.

[@Linda-u6o8g]

​@@andrewpinson1268if they take your comment down ,it's gone you won't see it and no one else will, if you put up a comment and after a few minutes you go back and can still see so can every one else

[@2lightfoundation721]

@@andrewpinson1268 they remove the entire comment. Not even the person who posted it can see it. They must have went in and programmed some new words into their computer algorithms. The censorship is unbelievably strong.

[@andrewpinson1268]

@@Linda-u6o8g sorry to be so dimwitted about this, but I think I understand. I can get quite rough with my language against people, but I seldom go back and look to see if it was taken down. I realize that I am one of those many, who should not be making comments at all. I do know that comments seldom if ever change minds.

[@canam5864]

I watched the video of the shooting and actually was appalled that while it was clear that someone was shooting, the photographers were milling around the stage trying to get their photos instead of going for cover. Clearly money and fame are more important than lives to them.

[@cassiusvoidkin]

Their job as photojournalists is to document history. They do not care for their own lives in the moment because documenting a historical event for the masses to see for themselves is vital to being able to recall these events properly in the future, to study them, and preserve them for the generations after us to see and study as well. The police and secret service also disregard their own lives in the line of duty.

[@ItTrolls4Thee.]

Secret Service was sawing logs Zzzzz

[@LoveWins.100]

HE IS EX-president!

[@Sgottamuse1]

I agree. They need to start saying former president like all other former presidents are addressed

[@winstonsmith8565]

I wonder if YT will start taking down videos of the people interviewed on Saturday

[@Ducky-c3k]

This Independent is voting for Trump

[@53merlin]

@JoementiaCmonMan-p1n Yes you are

[@WinstonSmith24]

So is this Independent.

[@shondrawhite9317]

Bless your heart 💙

[@davidg9720]

thought being independent meant you are THINKING independently, not following the fascist fold. March on !!!

[@scillyautomatic]

As a photog, i think the streak looks low.

[@annebreitrick6116]

There's an explantation but KZbin censors me and won't allow me to write the source of the information.

[@sarahwood3888]

And, too straight

[@scillyautomatic]

@@zachisaacson2184 Sure, doc. Thanks for explaining what we already know. 🤪🙄.

[@amberandrews6842]

It's behind him, and wouldn't hit the top of his ear. Makes no sense.

[@happygrandma2732]

I don't think she knows.

[@opaul7500]

*Photo doesn't obey laws of perspective* ◾️ _Photo looks strange._ _*---1.): The line is lower than Trump's left earlobe, Trump would have to have swung his head up and back in the split second._ _*---2.): In a perspective view Trump's head is not a block wide, such that the bullet line from the affected right earlobe would have lowered to that extent._ _*---3.): Furthermore, the line seems inclined upwards from front to back. By this assumption the shooters line of sight would have to be from either below, or at best, level._ _*---4.): Finally, would the photo capture what is supposed to be imagined the trail of blood?_ *If this is supposed to be an iconic picture, it's rather strange.*

[@Xanthe_Cat]

There is a very simple reason you have reached the conclusion this look odd: you think this is the bullet that hit Trump. But this is a 1/8000 second exposure, and Trump is already reaching to touch his ear - if you review the video, you will see that prior to the shooting, both his hands were resting on the lectern; his right arm flinches, and he raises his right hand to the side of his head in a single motion. It is simply impossible for any person to make a muscular motion, like moving their hand the distance of a foot up in the air, in one eight-thousandth of a second. Therefore this is one of the other bullets - one of the seven or so that did not graze Trump’s ear - passing in close proximity.

[@msftbob]

@opaul7500 More than one bullet was fired. Why do you assume this is the one that hit him? Proximity including angles between objects are distorted in a 2D photo depending on the distances between objects and the location from which the photo is taken. Trump's head is only a couple of feet lower than the roof from which the shot was fired as he was on a stage that was at least 3 feet high. Our education system obviously needs to be improved. Logic and math seem to be lacking on many of these comments.

[@spud2go]

So much for. free speech - KZbin going all in on comment blocking now.

[@kenc7120]

The only thing I am allowed to say is that the censoring only allows me to say that the censoring won’t allow me to say anything.

[@FourDollaRacing]

*"You .... had some very fine people on both sides."*

[@wintensity]

Out of context. Bot.

[@TheErik249]

9 out of my 12 comments on Saturday were censored.

[@roderickscapillati2839]

Trump was wearing a Maxi Pad on his ear at the GOP convention

[@wtfisthishandIebuIlshit]

Or was it an itty bitty my pillow?

[@Scratchy-w4d]

Vote blue to keep men in women's sports 🌊🌊🌊

[@JustinOldman-y4h]

Are you 12 🤔

[@JustinOldman-y4h]

​Close your legs

[@Topdog87]

😂😂😂

[@kellybikeco]

the audio on this clip is terrible... too much gain.

[@Scratchy-w4d]

Vote blue to keep men in women's sports 🌊🌊🌊

[@JustinOldman-y4h]

Don't sleep Around...lol

[@Muttinchopsforever]

You will always be a little league coach

[@brandonwilde8988]

Listen, I don’t necessarily agree with having men in women’s sports. But if that’s the biggest issue that you can point out with the democrat party, then it’s still better to vote blue. The only practical purpose for sports is to keep people fit, to learn cooperation with “teammates”, and for entertainment. (All of which can be done without playing sports anyway.) So some woman loses an unimportant championship to a guy because he’s a guy, big deal. Sure, it’s unfair, but it’s just an unimportant game and life moves on, sports are about learning and growing, not winning. So do you seriously think that men joining women’s sports is a more important issue than the housing crisis, conflicts in places like the Middle East or Ukraine, a potential world-war, Project 2025 being put into place, and every other issue the US is facing because of the right’s carelessness and arrogance?

[@Muttinchopsforever]

So close so far away great song by U2

[@lillianmatthew3880]

You just can't help yourself can you You aren't even an American but want to cause problems here

[@Muttinchopsforever]

​@@lillianmatthew3880sure thing Winston can you tell me what state you're voting in this year? Or are you just going to keep it in the state of denial

[@Dingleberry777]

I'm trying to find just one song by U2 that I like but I still haven't found what I'm looking for.

[@wtfisthishandIebuIlshit]

​@@Muttinchopsforever What we have here is a missed opportunity.

[@Muttinchopsforever]

​@@Dingleberry777look where the streets have no name

[@DvLnDsGyZ]

I bet the first thing he asked was about his ratings.

[@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8]

*The Head of the Secret Service is a Woman* *She Failed at her Job. So why isn't she Fired?*

[@伊人的河流]

她是拜登的人😂

[@jaytaylor2312]

Biden hasn’t fired anyone He’s not in charge

[@afry6400]

An investigation typically happens before they go that far. She's likely been suspended for the moment.

[@B17ff-u7t]

As a trans black female democrat, I'll be voting Trump 2024.

[@kathyromeo8547]

If this bullet was going right to left, which was Trump's left, how could it come from Thomas Crooks gun, which would have traveled left to right, as he was on a roof to the left of Trump, facing the stage, or Trump's right standing on the stage.

[@happygrandma2732]

Omg Andrea Mitchell who is smiling. Isn't time msnbc replaces her. Talk about old?

[@loydjenkins]

1) Improbable that an AR-15 bullet could be captured by a photo WITHOUT modifying the camera settings for high-speed capture; 2) bullets don't leave trails in pics like airplanes in the sky. I think the pic is a fake or the object is shrapnel.

[@bethelshiloh]

Sooo… NBC is great?

[@benjaminpiltz5987]

He states he had an exposure of 1/8000s. The trail in the image is maybe around 0,4 m or so. Now if you calculate the speed it would be 3200 m/s or 11500 km/h. Bullets are fast but not that fast. They have speeds of about 3000 km/h. So there seems to be something wrong about this. Not knowing what though.

[@pennygleeson5029]

Photo of the century! 😳😳😳

[@mmtalon]

"I was at ISO 50 and that's when the UFO flew by".

[@andrewpinson1268]

I have been spending some time the past few days listening to the older MSNBC stories from reporters of what they thought about Trump and what they thought his election to the Presidency would bring. Astonishing even though I had seen most of it before. Everyone should take a look at what MSNBC HAS been up to.

[@richardbutler9217]

The path of the bullet appears to be considerably below Trump's ear. Please explain.

[@kamladoodnauth2378]

KZbin needs to take way down with this sensoring. People can't voice their opinions. What the sense of watching the youtube clips. It is a waste of time.

[@harborside10]

No one watches MSNBC anyway.

[@Linda-u6o8g]

Dems love m s n b c, their the only mainstream media channel that tells the truth

[@lakcurious]

So what are you doing here?

[@harborside10]

@@lakcurious because another channel directed me to watch these fools.

[@lakcurious]

@@harborside10 What for? So you can write such stupid and meaningless comments?

[@spqr49]

How does a bullet traveling 3250fps (typical 5.56 round), captured at 1/8000th of a second create a trail that long? It is longer than the profile of Trump's face. 3250/8000=.4ft (4.8inches) yet the trail is clearly much longer than that.

[@jeremyharker1575]

That trace of the bullet could not be the bullet which nicked the top of Trumps ear. The trace is inline with the bottom of Trumps ear ie the ear lobe. Unless Trump has one ear 3 to 4” lower than the other!!

[@johnosu]

Your arrow line is far from right ear position

[@Barry-sx4gj]

Did anyone do any Analysis on this Photo, It looks like someone PhotoShoped this Picture: 1:) Photographer said his camera was set for 20 frames a second? 2:) What was the perspective of the person taking the Image? 3:) Did anyone check the Edges / Outlines for dithering? 4:) Did anyone Know what was the rate of speed of the bullet to justify the trailing length in this picture it seems to be wrong? One possibility reference is 3,300 ft/s 5:) without knowing the answer for #2 it seems that Trajectory / path of bullet is wrong? 6:) Photographer stated he use a Sony A1 Camera @ 1 frame per .008 seconds / iso 50?

[@DavidJ2222]

The latest polls show president Trump leading bigly in all swing states 🎉🎉

[@saltyshaker5069]

@JoementiaCmonMan-p1n Go look

[@johnconnor1847]

@JoementiaCmonMan-p1n Did you just get here?

[@Muttinchopsforever]

By smell?

[@warrensledd5444]

mika and joe own BSNBC

[@Najbsn9620]

Other anchors are his sl*ve

[@Muttinchopsforever]

​@MarlonBundo-ec4jhI watch Fox news entertainment to keep me angry and uninformed

[@Najbsn9620]

@MarlonBundo-ec4jh Are you one of brandon’s diaperr boy?? Is it true that white house spend majority of its budget for purchasing adult diaperr for Brandon?

[@michaelbriganti]

Imagine being SOO Toxic that your boss puts you into a TIME OUT. Thats Morning Joe for ya!!!

[@michaelbriganti]

@MarlonBundo-ec4jh Why stupid did he say Fox News Stupid???

[@wearekrachron193]

you are fooling nobody!!! what a joke

[@NarleyAdventures]

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[@KLD521]

This channel disappointments me and probably others who make comments, whether we share something found outside your channel or basically share their disgust in how this country is falling apart and whomever is monitoring thats takes down certain individual's comments for no reason needs a reality check. If you cannot stand honest truth with no negativity attached to comment then find another monitoring position elsewhere.

[@Linda-u6o8g]

Oh please this channel can't take comments down, it's u tube who are taking everyones comments down, and m s NB c are the best and most fair mainstream media channel

[@johnward43]

You can't post "Democrat-run" in reference to the Secret Service? KZbin is garbage.

[@gemcan54]

MSNBC/MITCHELL IS FULL OF HAMAS HYPOCRISY.

[@LulaMae21]

All these bots in the comments so salty they can't spread their lies. 😂

[@SBSP02]

"Everyone I disagree with is a bot!"

[@pimpompoom93726]

Anyone seen Morning Joke and Mika lately??

[@ThomasGranrath-j8r]

No what kind of camera!

[@spqr49]

Sony A1 he says it in the video...

[@fagan900able]

Fake

[@scottlalexander510]

Riiiiiiiiiiiight! 🙄

[@AndiGalpern]

Miraculous interview

[@Maghna-n1e]

Nicole Wallace

[@captivehonor3764]

My guy got shot, discharged himself from the hospital same day, and was on the golf course at 9am. Your guy can't wake up till noon and routinely gets defeated by a stairwell.

[@sunsetpalms1923]

What time does trump have to wake up at when he has to visit his parole officer?

[@captivehonor3764]

@@sunsetpalms1923 Is that English?

[@sunsetpalms1923]

@@captivehonor3764 Which of the 34 trump felonies do you admire the most? Or is that he was held liable in a se*ual assult case?

[@captivehonor3764]

@sunsetpalms1923 All bs charges by a corrupt judge and they will be overturned. Biden was found by special council to be guilty in classified docs case. But was deemed too demented to stand trial.

[@poopscooper5038]

Senator Menendez from New Jersey found guilty on all counts. A DEMOCRAT of course

[@Barry-sx4gj]

Updated after reviewing 3 Interviews? Did anyone do any Analysis on this Photo, It looks like someone PhotoShoped this Picture: 1:) Photographer said his camera was set for 20 frames a second then later 1/8000? 2:) What was the perspective of the person taking the Image? 2b:) What are the odds of moving to the Right Location & Time prior to or during event? 3:) Did anyone check the Edges / Outlines for dithering? 4:) Did anyone Know what was the rate of speed of the bullet to justify the trailing length in this picture it seems to be wrong? One possibility reference is 3,300 ft/s 5:) without knowing the answer for #2 it seems that Trajectory / path of bullet is wrong? 6:) Photographer stated he use a Sony A1 Camera @ 1 frame per .008 seconds / iso 50? 6b:) There can be a rough estimation of object starting and stopping points based on Knowing the above numbers at this time it is not reasonable to say this Image is accurate? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:) There should be more Frames taken which can help to confirm or deny the legitimacy of the Image 8:) Where is the Meta Data or is it a copy of a copy? 9:) Type of Memory and Data Storage Type / Model? 10:) The Photographer description of the event is different just between 3 different Interview’s? a:) Photographer behind Trump bullet image speaks to BBC | BBC News b:) NYT photographer Doug Mills on witnessing history c:) MSNBC ‘I went forward rather than back’: NYT photographer who captured Trump shooting At this time there seems to be only 2 possibilities: a:) Human Error / Mistake? b:) Possible Deception? As any human being there is always a possibilities of Error and or Omissions.

[@ThomasGranrath-j8r]

Fake shot what kind of camera? No

[@annebreitrick6116]

Sony digital.