Iberia A320 has LANDING GEAR ISSUES | Emergency Diverts to Porto

[@VASAviation]

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[@michaelnewman2133]

You may want to check out China Airlines 5107 possible go around at SFO just now

[@commerce-usa]

Interesting how the ATC was able to sound both entirely professional, yet maintained a friendly and calming demeanor. Well done indeed!

[@theHDRflightdeck]

Non American ATC. Sorry!

[@wickedsick9552]

They sit in a warm chair in a very calm room, the ones with stress were the ones in the cockpit. But yeah, as a pilot myself: European controllers are just professionals and helping. US controllers often are rude.

[@theHDRflightdeck]

@@wickedsick9552 im sure most controllers feel the stress as well despite the seemingly calmer environment however it seems most US controllers feel like they own the sky. They forget that their job is to serve and protect.

[@NicolaW72]

Yes, absolutely.

[@robertmog4336]

It seemed like just about every call and read back with the emergency aircraft was so clean and perfect in this video.

[@hal9000svk]

Not native speakers

[@theHDRflightdeck]

They were not in America….

[@robertmog4336]

@@theHDRflightdeck LOL! Good one!

[@grantsteelman1745]

Don’t know if you heard about the midair collision between a helicopter and a small airplane in Chandler Arizona on October 2 Probably pretty interesting audio

[@tundramanq]

Even though I knew the planes were at different altitudes, there was a pucker factor when they converged on the radar at the end of the ILS. My brain just isn't used to 3 dimensional navigation.

[@k.pacificnw02134]

I'm amazed at just how many planes are in the sky at one time in modern times.

[@klamin_original]

I thought the other pilots can listen in on the frequency? Wouldn’t they be able to hear them talking about the problem and where they are position wise?

[@Cucumber_Dragon]

(I think, if I am not mistaken) Yes, they are communicating on a public&open frequency where other pilots also uses them to make communications. That is the reason why sometimes pilot/the tower will request the other party to switch to a discreet frequency where only the pilot and the tower is in there, to give them privacy and to not disturb other communications

[@spelldaddy5386]

Also the pilot wouldn't be transmitting their position over the radio, that's why the controller has radar. Other pilots are focused on their own aircraft, they don't listen to the radio for every single call. They may not even know which aircraft is the emergency

[@jarisundell8859]

Note that one of the pilots thought it was a medical emergency.

[@SkyBaum]

#29 love ❤️ the different ATC comms from other countries 😃 As always thanks for the hard work Victor!

[@battlefield3112011]

By any chance you have the audio of the JAL 777-300ER (Flight JL15) that have an engine problem after departing from LAX on October 15th?

[@VASAviation]

Affirm

[@Adipose69]

Kudos to pilots and ATC on this one, also Porto is a beautiful airport and an incredible area :) I can think of many worse places to divert to. Professionalism was commendable for all parties. Thanks VASAvation!

[@agustingonzalez6717]

Yesterday Air Europa 045 had a mayday landing on Carrasco, Montevideo (SUMU/MVD) Uruguay, between 9:30 and 10:30 UTC. They lost an engine with 321 pax on board. Can you do a video?

[@agustingonzalez6717]

It was october 16th between 9:30 and 10:00 UTC, look for it on LiveATC please :)

[@ravingcyclist624]

At 1:34 pilot says "We have a landing gear problem. We can't get the landing gear up". Many comments on here don't consider that a reason for Mayday. :-) Just continue the flight with the gear down. 😃

[@23mrcash]

Thinking it’s more of a “pan pan” than a mayday.

[@2xKTfc]

What does ATC mean with "trying" to implement low visibility procedures? Shouldn't that be some sort of institutionalized protocol?

[@oktal3700]

It just takes some time to get everything in place.

[@AviaView]

Recently there have been works on new taxiways in Porto. If men and equipment are working in the ILS sensitive areas, it takes some time to remove everyone from those critical areas. Implementation of Low Visibility Procedures is therefore not an instant thing. Hope this explains it. Also, on this day the weather was changing rapidly every hour from above CAT I weather to CATII/LVP conditions and back.

[@ldvg0990]

why is it a mayday and not pan pan ? thanks

[@36thstreethero]

Better question, is it an emergency to have the landing gear down? Or is it a nuisance with an increased fuel penalty?

[@stopgabsolution5457]

@@36thstreethero they had to divert to Porto. That eats into the fuel margin. Better to get down as fast as possible then declaring low fuel emergency later because you’re stuck in sequence.

[@ldvg0990]

@@stopgabsolution5457 thank you

[@iatsd]

It's a mayday because that's what the PIC decided.

[@kateorman]

@@iatsd You mean the trained professional with all the information in front of him whose job it was to decide if it was a mayday or not? What would he know? 🤣

[@MSRTA_Productions]

Will there be ATC clip from JA740J operating JA15 soon?

[@VASAviation]

Affirm

[@speedbird006]

JL15

[@MrTwinkie797]

16 crew on an A320 :P

[@NicolaW72]

Maybe...😃

[@pavelavietor1]

Hello saludos IBERIANS

[@tewksbury1]

What does QNH stand for? I've heard it on international flight's but not US ones.

[@Michaluis84]

In US communications you normally hear "altimeter" followed by the setting in mmHg. QNH in Europe is given in HPa

[@johnopalko5223]

QNH is your altimeter setting. Controllers in the U.S. typically just say, "Altimeter," when giving you the value.

[@oktal3700]

It's not an acronym so it doesn't "stand for" anything in that sense. It's a "Q code" which originates from the days of morse code.

[@johnopalko5223]

@@Michaluis84 It's inches of mercury, not millimeters.

[@Michaluis84]

I stand corrected, thank you

[@noeldown1952]

JA15 engine fire?

[@geckster109]

I cannot believe ATC didnt follow up with "what is the nature of your emergency" after they called for a mayday!

[@VASAviation]

Pilot stated

[@oktal3700]

I believe ATC had already been made aware of the situation before the pilot joined this frequency.

[@s2009n1]

What does FL60 mean? Is it 6000???

[@Michaluis84]

6000' with QNH 1013.25

[@davidw2739]

I had the same question with “Flight level 100”. If that’s 10,000, I’m used to hearing it as either “Flight Level Ten” or “One Zero Thousand”.

[@bahenbihen]

@@davidw2739 "One zero thousand" applies to places where the transition altitude is above that value, above that would be flight levels. Since Porto has a low elevation, it makes little sense to have a high trans alt

[@eliasgonzalez356]

Nop, in Porto the "Transition Altitude" (TA) is: 4000ft , above TA is flight level (FL) and below the "Transition Level" (TRL) is altitude.

[@s2009n1]

@@eliasgonzalez356 thanks for the info

[@theHDRflightdeck]

Wondering why they declared Mayday. Any info?

[@vixen4327]

Landing gear wouldn't come up

[@masseypadgham7113]

Could not retract gear. Meant fuel flow was extremely high, due to resulting speed and altitude restrictions. Effectively, he was declaring a fuel emergency. Weather in the area was very bad, so could not return to Vigo.

[@theHDRflightdeck]

@@vixen4327 we don’t call mayday for that.

[@theHDRflightdeck]

@@masseypadgham7113 Its a weird one for sure because you know the landing gear wont come up immediately after takeoff which is the time you have the most fuel on board. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@iatsd]

@@theHDRflightdeck You don't call mayday on a major systems failure and don't think it's a problem "because you've got a lot of fuel"? Remind me never to fly with you. Ever.

[@phantom8397]

What was the real reason for this mayday? Landing gear or fuel shortage (4000 kg) or something we didnt know? Considering this video It should not be so easy declaring may day like this.

[@csgergo80]

Landing gear not coming up.

[@masseypadgham7113]

It sounds to me like the declaration of an emergency was to get priority handling due to extremely high fuel burn. 4400 kilos is a pretty light fuel load for a A320.

[@virginiaviola5097]

The drag that was being produced due to the gear being down was chewing through the fuel, as the pilot noted in his comms with ATC.

[@telescopebuilder]

Yes, as mentioned by the pilot, the drag from the gear increased consumption.

[@MSRTA_Productions]

LXQ was active after you completed the video

[@VASAviation]

No, it was not

[@MSRTA_Productions]

@@VASAviation mm maybe some days after. It is flying right now shown on FR24

[@zwyklyuser44]

thx

[@absolutdani]

Wait, HOW???? Edit: ah yea, Portugal ATC

[@xdudix]

yes... eeeeeee, and he is not g... eeeeee.... good in english eeeeeee no?

[@tocando_em_frente]

Why they called a Mayday, not a Pan pan ?

[@masseypadgham7113]

Low altitude, low speed as a result of gear down, so very high fuel flow. Sounds like pilot concerned about fuel exhaustion if he did not get priority handling, which qualifies as a potentially life-endangering situation. He only reported having 4400 kg of fuel! I suppose one can argue mayday versus pan-pan, but hey the pilot has a lot more info on how much flying time he had than we do.

[@theHDRflightdeck]

@@masseypadgham7113 4400kg is a little more than an hours worth of flying with all landing gear down

[@masseypadgham7113]

@@theHDRflightdeck yes, not much. Sounds like with weather getting worse, Porto was about the only option for this crew. The other aircraft holding and not burning fuel like crazy probably still had diversion options.

[@saeedali1542]

Because in aviation their is two types of call distress and stress call. Mayday is refered to as distress call its mean that they have some immediate emergency or pan pan is refered to the strees call which means they have emergency but not immediate

[@EdOeuna]

After so many arguments over “declaring an emergency” versus “Mayday”, we now seem to have an unnecessary mayday declaration.

[@benoithudson7235]

At 1:54 they indicate their mayday-level problem: high fuel flow.

[@spelldaddy5386]

It's very much not unnecessary! With the landing gear hanging out, there is a lot of drag, causing a very high fuel burn rate. They also are restricted with how fast they can fly, which means they have to get on the ground as soon as possible. As far as the "declare an emergency" argument goes, that's just a discussion over whether Americans (and it is mostly Americans) should be using slang, or whether they always have to follow icao phraseology all the time

[@mandywalkden-brown7250]

You need to listen a little more closely in future so that you don’t miss the pertinent details.

[@EdOeuna]

@@benoithudson7235 - a high fuel flow, obviously because the gear is down, isn’t, on its own, a mayday situation unless they are in a life threatening situation. The very fact that they’ve diverted and flown to a more suitable airport suggests that things are going well for the pilots and that a CAT I landing is enough to get them on the ground. The only real use for the mayday, it seems, is to stir up ATC and get vectors straight to the runway whilst ATC are dithering about LVA’s.

[@2xKTfc]

@@EdOeuna "It went well, therefore nothing was bad to start with" - you're using backwards logic here.

[@austintx_planespotter8561]

Ooo

[@cjmillsnun]

Seems more like a PAN PAN to me. 4.4 tonnes even with the gear stuck down gives plenty of flight time.

[@Jonny94669]

Some countries don't recognise a PAN call, not sure about Portugal specifically though.

[@tenpiloto]

That was NOT a mayday situation.

[@ACC1984]

Sounds more like a “Pan Pan Pan” situation

[@mikek5298]

I’m sure that, as a senior pilot instructor, you have all the answers. You wouldn’t happen to be a Keyboard Warrior, would you?

[@josephweiss1559]

Playback is of poor quality, could not ident thev Emergency Aircraft