Part 2 to answer all questions here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4SlaquHqp5qoZYsi=6bEIJbObcsY2jVbc
@kanedakuАй бұрын
Here from the WAN Show; I have two older Macbooks so this doesnt even effect me, but *YAYY* for innovation and letting Apple know that their practices SUCK! I have part II cued.
@ryanbotha7256Ай бұрын
Subscribed just because of this video 👏🏼. Will this modification fit inside the chassis of the new shape Macbook Pro 16 inch?
@iBoffRCCАй бұрын
@@ryanbotha7256 yes it will, but that would be a different project next year.
@NANDOFFDataRecovery16 күн бұрын
I like that. it is a sexy solution. well done
@norkshit2 ай бұрын
You just spit in apple’s face and proved that their reasoning for soldering storage on their boards is merely for financial gain. We need more people like you. Thank you.
@ALmaN112233442 ай бұрын
They definitely never denied it being for greed, the fact they're willing to charge so much more for so little difference in cost to them is evidence enough that it is only intended for product tiering.
@HNedel2 ай бұрын
Everyone knew that already
@jensonbuttonfan2 ай бұрын
its also for performance gain. The data transfer/read/write in soldered method is FASTER than the one demonstrated here. I prefer to have it soldered for FASTER performance.
@HNedel2 ай бұрын
@@jensonbuttonfan it’s barely measurable.
@prateekpanwar6462 ай бұрын
@@jensonbuttonfan In that case sequential read/write is way faster on a PCIe Gen 5 SSD. But random IOs are almost same across similar types of cells (SLC the best one, TLC, QLC). The point is if you have smaller capacity, It'll be swapped way more often and cause degradation then you can just throw your laptop and blame on you for not using cloud storage. SSDs (good quality ones) are fast enough that they don't cause any bottlenecks in the system.
@jhonnyxyz2 ай бұрын
Nice work. I would call it i.NVME
@noodlecat_2 ай бұрын
Thats a rad as heck name my dude xD
@MammothBehemoth2 ай бұрын
Apple no longer makes new devices or systems using the i(Name) nomenclature
@imgmkr2 ай бұрын
@@MammothBehemothso even morefitting 😂
@InsertRandomStuffHere2 ай бұрын
@@MammothBehemoth thars why its BRILLIANT
@tomislavdiaz69552 ай бұрын
I don't think if this is good idea, since "NVMe" is owned by NVM Express, Inc.
@GolfWangMedia-incorporated2 ай бұрын
Stopping the battery from charging because the storage has gone bad is the most Apple thing i’ve ever heard.
@mskiptr2 ай бұрын
A lot more stops working on an Apple Silicon Mac without the NAND than just battery charging. Half of the firmware is stored there so it really cannot boot without it.
@anivicuno94732 ай бұрын
@@mskiptr After hearing that, i'll laught my ass off if anyone tries telling me apple doesn't actively hate their users.
@mskiptr2 ай бұрын
@@anivicuno9473 Personally I could get over it, *if that storage was slotted.* There's no good reason to solder it down. You aren't sacrificing any speed nor power efficiency (like it'd be the case for RAM). A slot would fit there easily, give that in this video we see two whole PCBs _and_ the NAND modules stuffed in there without an issue! The only real disadvantage is _one extra thing to plug in_ during manufacturing. That's so insignificant, it's basically a rounding error in the complexity of laptop production. My guess they just went with the exact same thing they are using on the iPhone. All other laptops also rely on some flash to boot. But it's not the main storage so it is not wearing out during everyday use (at least if the firmware is properly designed). And if it dies, soldering a new one is so much easier because SPI flash isn't this behemoth that NVMe is. Though to be fair, you can revive these Macs from literally empty memory, while on most laptops if you lose the contents of that flash, your serial numbers, MAC addresses, calibration data and firmware is now gone for good. Good luck patching together a Frankenstein firmware out of memory dumps from other devices.
@mskiptr2 ай бұрын
@@anivicuno9473 Personally I could get over it, *if that storage was slotted.* There's no good reason to solder it down. You aren't sacrificing any speed nor power efficiency (like it'd be the case for RAM). A slot would fit there easily, given that in this video we see two whole PCBs _and_ the NAND modules stuffed in there without an issue! [1/4]
@mskiptr2 ай бұрын
@@anivicuno9473 The only real disadvantage is _one extra thing to plug in_ during manufacturing. That's so insignificant, it's basically a rounding error in the complexity of laptop production. My guess they just went with the exact same thing they are using on the iPhone. [2/4]
@lemagreengreen2 ай бұрын
Apple engineers: what is this sorcery, removable storage?
@tezcanaslan28772 ай бұрын
AKSCHUALLY usb drives are considered removable storage, wouldnt be surprised if macbook users think that’s ancient technol
@technerd96552 ай бұрын
I don't think it's the engineers themselves who want to do these things. I'm sure it's a directive from management, probably Tim Cook, and Steve Jobs previously to lock things down as much as possible, and they hire engineers who are willing to do this. I bet some, or most of the Apple engineers would secretly be laughing and saying "it's about damn time! Way to go community!"
@mpty20222 ай бұрын
apple would remove a perfectly working feature, shrink device by 0.1% and call it innovation
@sterkriger25722 ай бұрын
Modern Apple engineers. In the past a Mac was the most upgradable device you could get because everything was easily accessible. Then Jobs died and things got crazy
@technerd96552 ай бұрын
@sterkriger2572 that's laughable. Apple has ALWAYS, even in the 80s been anti-right to repair, but things were much simpler and easier to reverse engineer, even for a hobbyist. Apple authorized repair shop had to sawp out complete motherboards even if a single capacitor or big standard off the shelf TTL chip needed to be replaced. Granted, 3rd parties could make aftermarket software/accessories/peripherals/CPU upgrade boards/RAM upgrade boards, etc. without Apple's approval, all of which is much harder today. This was because of Jobs, had it been up to the Woz, my understanding is that things would have been different. After Tim Cook took over, things got worse, to the point that this is where we are today.
@SahitDagani2 ай бұрын
99 missed calls from Tim Cook🤣
@xraydog2011Ай бұрын
Tim Crook
@CesarTreetopsАй бұрын
69 missed calls
@kinggamer_1511 күн бұрын
Don’t let Tim Cook again…. 😂😂😂
@chaquator2 ай бұрын
this needs to go widespread and reach every tech news outlet
@jsc3417Ай бұрын
YOu do understand the existence of M.2 2230, right? Apple purposely did the soldered down SSD for a reason - to charge the customers premium.
@birdmanjrvslilwayne2 ай бұрын
I sent my macbook A1706 motherboard with a failed SSD to iBoff! They soldered the M.2 NVME attachment and I now have 1TB on it! Amazing and quick service! I hope they get the 50k! Love from Mauritius 🇲🇺!
@mcslender29652 ай бұрын
Man not only you get your laptop fixed you get a free upgrade too
@WeePandas2 ай бұрын
How much did the fix/upgrade cost?
@flyboytech82462 ай бұрын
What is the address. I want to get mine done also
@claudiugardelli63022 ай бұрын
Does it work with m1 2 and 3?
@CYCLEX666Ай бұрын
@@claudiugardelli6302 yes cauz they all contain soldered nand.
@MethodMan-2 ай бұрын
nice solution, but we only see the result. It would be nice to see how it's made.
@lis65022 ай бұрын
for $950 they can show you how it works( inside your computer) :P
@angryakita38702 ай бұрын
At a guess: they cloned the footprint of the NAND flash chips they are replacing, and stuck an m.2 connector to a PCB they solder to those pads. It can’t be a ‘standard’ SSD because iirc Apple handled the flash controller on the SOC itself, and the storage PCB also looks pretty empty to me. I’d love to see them do a stability test in this setup, because I’d be interested to see how signal integrity is impacted by this
@cameramaker2 ай бұрын
If you can not deduct from all that video how it is made, then you have zero need to know it. This is literally a child's play - very simple, yet clever design. And a big slap in the face of Apple, for not allowing removable storage. I expect the next macbook to have a glued in charger cable, because why not :D
@bufordmaddogtannen2 ай бұрын
@@cameramaker with an overengineered grommet to reduce cable strain. 😂
@xmlthegreat2 ай бұрын
@@cameramakerthe difficulty in overcoming apple's limitations is always apple themselves. Physically and electrically there's not much of a problem, it's just that trying means having to overcome traps and pitfalls left behind deliberately by the crooks at apple.
@alldjp2 ай бұрын
How about calling it NVMND. Disemvoweled version of "nevermind." Like, "I think im gonna go buy the 2TB MacBook. Oh wait. Nevermind. I'll just pay less and do this mod instead." And you still get to keep the NVM part of NVME. BTW, super awesome mod! Love the through hole design of the main PCB. Looks like its gonna make installing and aligning so much easier.
@chromaticvisuelle2 ай бұрын
Are you working in marketing? Thats so clever
@alldjp2 ай бұрын
@@chromaticvisuelle haha! i don't. but thank you! 😄
@thejoshr2 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that watched the whole video and somehow missed how to actually do it?
@l1nx992 ай бұрын
Yes. Because right now it is prototype.
@akali66362 ай бұрын
because they did not show it lol
@Uberragen212 ай бұрын
Because they had to remove the original NAND chips and solder on the mini board that has the M.2 connector. Sorry, this is NOT a plug & play solution.
@akali66362 ай бұрын
@@Uberragen21 right? it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. because if im going out of my way to desolder the nands, i will just upgrade to 2tb to begin with and not solder an m.2 connector just to upgrade my 256 to 512 or something lmao. its still cool tech tho
@moorederodeo2 ай бұрын
@@akali6636I think making potential future upgrades or repairs relatively trivial is worth it with something like this. Flash storage tends to get cheaper with time and this could add years to a devices lifetime. It could add another point of failure though; as others have mentioned, the timings are potentially altered with the additional circuitry, which could lead to instability.
@Rushil694202 ай бұрын
This is definitely for repair shops and not end-users but its a fantastic innovation. It's going to breathe years of more life into these M1/M2 series laptops. Great for reducing e-waste.
@Timely-ud4rm2 ай бұрын
breathe life into old macbooks? Thats no good that affects our bottom line *Cough Cough* I mean customer satisfaction. instead of giving life to our old macbooks buy new ones it will make us *Cough Cough* We mean you happier ;)
@michaelolatokunboh4497Ай бұрын
@@Timely-ud4rm Exactly what Tim Cook would say! 😃 😃 😃
@seslan2 ай бұрын
Bro went out his way to design a whole adapter while using comic sans ms in the edit. Damn good work!
@reatcas2 ай бұрын
I love this part: 5:00 showing the ridiculousness of apple charging $2800 for just 2TB storage
@TechnoLadzАй бұрын
It's 8TB.
@cyrilnxumalo4805Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@00Tenrai00Ай бұрын
@@TechnoLadz8TB NVMe M.2 gen4 is about $700-$800
@meetingzues2 ай бұрын
Apple: why would we? 1 time payment vs lifetime subscription of icloud? which is more profitable hahahahahhahha
@Vs37122 ай бұрын
iCloud is probably the best deal Apple has though costing less for more when you get bigger options
@mcslender29652 ай бұрын
@@Vs3712it's ass if you use anything that's not Apple devices tho
@wasserprojekt2 ай бұрын
Amazing. I'd call it LEL (Less Electronics on Landfills) adapter.
@sihamhamda472 ай бұрын
Or EWP (E-Waste Prevention) device
@blakegriplingph2 ай бұрын
Top lel
@diegocejudo97042 ай бұрын
LEL!
@erickmoy2 ай бұрын
why not LOL? (less obsolescence on landfills)
@schoute74902 ай бұрын
terrible names that sound like they were conceived by 12 year olds
@mindawgasm59742 ай бұрын
Bad things just to name couple: 1. Too expensive just for storage upgrade when it's close to motherboard price 2. Can't be done by average person at home 3. Requires serious soldering knowledge to perform such a complex task, most people who think they can solder will be unable to do it for sure Good things: 1. Nice solution for those who repair macs and comes to one with dead nand 2. Working solution to upgrade existing mac storage without compromises
@WallcroftUK2 ай бұрын
who asked :D its just to beef up Apple cus last years they suck like look at IP16 or 15 :D its huge joke XD cus even my 11 Pro Max is still good with latest updates rn on 18.1 Beta cus i have my own apps to update :D
@bfreitas4562 ай бұрын
Where have you seen the price? Lol
@WallcroftUK2 ай бұрын
@@bfreitas456 I’m from EU so we say what Apple must do and what can’t 😂 as you see from things they must do or they will be kicked out of EU 😂
@bfreitas4562 ай бұрын
@@WallcroftUK was talking to op, he said it was too expensive for a storage upgrade, but the price wasn't mentioned in the video, the product isn't even out yet, doesn't even have a name. bro got confused with a joke about apple pricing
@REC7892 ай бұрын
I need 4 shots, minimum, not to see my hand shaking under a microscope while soldering those
@RizalBoon2 ай бұрын
This is a godsend for us. As SSD wear paranoid guy, this will make me hate the newer macbook less. Having the ssd replaceable will make it last for a very long time with good care.
@derpythecate68422 ай бұрын
Right, plus given that the Macbooks come with less RAM, a lot of extra writes come from compensating with swapping to disk, which in turn adds more total bytes written than usual. I don't really have a speed concern on an 8GB macbook air even in the long run, like the unified memory does still keep it snappy, but then my only fear is that as time goes on, the SSD will wear out and die before any other components.
@RizalBoon2 ай бұрын
@@derpythecate6842 That is one main reason why I fully avoid latest macs with soldered SSD now, and until this is finally rectified, I will never get one regardless of how good it's performance is.
@Coolie-ds4tu2 ай бұрын
My intel cherryville 120GB ssd from 2012 is still perfectly healthy. Your laptop will die far longer before your storage could have any issue. This problem is in your head only
@Helios.vfx.2 ай бұрын
I've written a lot on my SSD, every day about 4tb and it was just fine. They will live without issues for many years. PRobably the whole mac will fail before the SSD
@Dunestorm333Ай бұрын
@@Coolie-ds4tu Okay, but what about if you change your workflow and decide you need way more storage than 120GB? Buying a new computer isn't the best solution when literally the only problem is storage capacity.
@What_In_This_World2 ай бұрын
They used to have removable storage on the old MacBooks…working in a repair shop we would constantly see the old MacBook airs coming in with bad ssd’s…we had a solution to fix the problem after we replaced the drive… a thermal pad that touched the drive and the bottom of the aluminum case… that was it… $0.01 to $0.02 worth of thermal pad ( factory/apple cost) would have saved countless hundreds, if not thousands of ssd’s ( and help protect muh environments ) just by using what could have been in the end, the cost of a few MacBook airs per year on thermal pads…
@Purple__Ай бұрын
I think these technically may not be allowed by a lot of standards, because they could cause the case to heat up beyond allowed limits for laptops. (To reduce risk of burns) but another great mod (if you never use your MacBook on your lap) is to connect the VRMs and CPU to the casing too, as it essentially is just a massive heatsink. This significantly improved performance on my MacBook Pro 2019 16" when I still had it. Would almost feel like I'd be burning my hand if I were to touch it for longer than a second though
@alldatizholy2 ай бұрын
So you guys say no soldering… but clearly the bottom board needs to be soldered, right? How much?
@RevvyP2 ай бұрын
It says no soldering after the modification. so the first mod to install the nvme port does require soldering
@sonjonn2 ай бұрын
Obviously you have to in the beginning. U also have to remove the original ssd
@mr.number92792 ай бұрын
@@sonjonn don't know who "U" is but this isn't solderless then you fucking baboon
@mr.number92792 ай бұрын
@@RevvyP "solderless" needs soldering and you're defending this he won't suck your dick dide.
@nicholasxamotainiumgilgamesh2 ай бұрын
when u have 0 electronic knowledge....
@JoseH-ft6cw2 күн бұрын
What would really interest me is the thermal performance of the ssd. The cooling is designs to cool down the permanent ssd in intensive situations. Will the socket ssd perform similar when transferring huge files?
@TechGameDev2 ай бұрын
5:10 seeing the mac studio it is clear that apple does this purely for money it is impossible apple makes the components modular unless laws impose it like usb-c or more recent in the EU also that the battery is removable for example in 2028 (for the environment) all devices must have removable components to help repair and keep the devices longer
@CoffeenSpice2 ай бұрын
Of course they do it for money, they are not a charity 😂 To the point of usb-c, I've started to see that as an unfortunate law full of unintended consequences that does not warranty it's existence.
@LeseanDeVon2 ай бұрын
@@CoffeenSpice womp womp
@mcslender29652 ай бұрын
@@CoffeenSpiceoh no. Now I can use my good USB C cable to charge my iphone and my Mac with the same charger. This is sooooo sad LMAO
@CoffeenSpice2 ай бұрын
@@mcslender2965 I wasn't talking about that. Around 2000 there were more that 15 different cables in use, later it decreased to micro USB, USB A and lightning connector. Before the law there were mainly only 2 connectors in use, so the market already moved to 1 connector without government controls. Second, if EU tried doing this 20 years ago we would probably be still stuck with USB A connector forever, stifling innovation. Moreover, there's not one single USB C cable, there are more than 4 standarts currently that all look the same but have different properties. What a mess.
@Shadowninja12002 ай бұрын
@@CoffeenSpice You could talk about something actually useful instead of whining about government regulation supposedly ruining charging connectors. The EU actually did use to require things to be usb micro b back in the day then they moved to usb c when that was a clear upgrade. Unlike the US, they're not so bogged down by infighting that they can't cooperate for 30 years. I actually wish they went a step further and require companies to clearly label what their cables are capable of right on the cable itself by data transfer rate and wattage (kind of like how Ethernet cables says if they're cat 5 or 6). There isn't actually anything wrong with the cables having different standards because not every device needs the fastest speed or be able to do displayport over usb. Only thing I'm miffed by is usb 2.0 being a thing still.
@D-One2 ай бұрын
Wow, amazing. I hope this became popular and available in every repair shop. As a way to upgrade storage capacity I can't see it competing with an NVME in an external enclosure but as a way to save a dead computer it's amazing!!
@MrPnew12 ай бұрын
IBoff Mat, what can we say??? You hit it out of the park again 🙂
@iBoffRCC2 ай бұрын
@@MrPnew1 thank you Peter! 😄
@shadyworld12 ай бұрын
I’ve been imagining the solution for a long time as a mod. It was just an obvious mod to me, but I lacked the technical skills to do it. Thank you.
@austin_does_stuff2 ай бұрын
Very impressive job! I'd call it the "Apple Slicer"
@EduKan202 ай бұрын
"Storage Slice or NAND Slice", just to leave room for "Memory/RAM Slice" or other IO when those eventually come out. Slicing = installing the daughter board Slicer = someone specialising in slicing Sliced Apple/Mac = an apple product with this upgrade.
@bahamutbbobАй бұрын
This video doesn't (directly) apply to me because I hate Apple, but you're doing amazing work here. Hopefully it makes a difference!
@rickkarrer83702 ай бұрын
McNAND (can be pronounced “Mac-NAND”, but as far as Apple’s lawyers are concerned, it’s “Mick-NAND”)
@TheFerdi2652 ай бұрын
Alternative: McNAND, but the full name is "Modular connector for NAND"
@cameramaker2 ай бұрын
Congrats for making this a reality! Its a very nice and clean solution and ignore those amateurs who are not able to comprehend what they just saw :D
@xdtime80882 ай бұрын
Good job guys. You are doing important work. The possibility of modification is very necessary.👍👍👍
@DanielJBrieckJr2 ай бұрын
ya this will save lots of macs from the trash bin
@D.u.d.e.r2 ай бұрын
This is awesome and excellent idea, well done folks!👍Apple should watch this 24/7 to know what their customers REALLY NEED and ask for! Even gaming consoles which do more less one thing can upgrade storage...
@samgregh36502 ай бұрын
how about P.I.E. - Portable Input/Output Environment, introducing the Apple P.I.E.
@m4tikАй бұрын
"A new revolutionary TPM security module has been added to our M5, thats makes each RAM chip unique, just for your security" :D
@Wannes_2 ай бұрын
So Apple have PCIe (?) pads sitting right next to the storage modules ? You still need to solder on the carrier board, right ? With a bit or re-organising, they could build in regular (maybe 1 sided) NVMe ... they just don't want to
@pneuma230932 ай бұрын
@@Wannes_ doesn’t pan out in their favour. Why help people replace the SSD when you can have them replace the whole board?
@David-Zita2 ай бұрын
They don't have PCIe pads next to storage modules, if you look closely there are two green PCBs, the one at the bottom is soldered where the original NAND's were located.
@FerrylOnWindows2 ай бұрын
It's an Apple proprietary version of PCI-E used for these SSDs, so this simply reroutes the signals to a common port (M.2) where the original NANDs can be placed onto a PCB with that card edge. All this does is make the original signals and chips modular.
@JerziTBoss2 ай бұрын
Why would they? With removable storage people would buy base model and then upgrade ssd for like 50$... By soldering storage they can charge 200$ for 512GB and when the SSD fails customers are forced to buy new device. It's almost infinite money glitch and screw the customers they are only as good as full are their wallets. That's why I would never buy anything Apple in my life.
@rickkarrer83702 ай бұрын
A normal M.2 won’t work, as the storage controller into the Mac’s board, and Apple solders on NAND chips. However, just like the Mac Studio (and this mod), all Apple needs to do is put an expansion port on the board, and offer a NAND module. And you’re right, they definitely can do it, and they definitely choose not to. And I find that very frustrating.
@lazybonesxpАй бұрын
The idea is awesome!!! Please, proceed with it!
@superNova58372 ай бұрын
Doing this before an Apple event was a bold move
@bluephreakr2 ай бұрын
Far as names for the devices go, I would call the adapter board the i.2, and the M.2-attached storage module iNAND. So the i.2 module is installed into the NAND storage BGA location, and the iNAND modules are inserts for the i.2.
@Divyesh_Goundar2 ай бұрын
Lets call it the McStore or the SideStore. Hope for someday it could be up-gradable using a 2230 nvme storage
@jitterrypokery15262 ай бұрын
Sidestore is an app for iOS to side load though
@Divyesh_Goundar2 ай бұрын
@@jitterrypokery1526 didn’t knew that. I’m not from Europe (please let us have sideloding worldwide)
@GuigsPlay2 ай бұрын
I would call it the Macromancer since it can revive dead macs
@Lampadina_172 ай бұрын
give this man a nobel!
@cedricrhombergАй бұрын
I would pay for this to be done to my mac. I really like it. Awesome work!
@Stevenx012 ай бұрын
That's showing them (the rotten apples) how it's f***ing done. You're all heroes and geniuses
@bujin5455Ай бұрын
Pretty sweet. Now we just need upgradable memory, and we'll really be set!
@OriginalQuasarSignals2 ай бұрын
Apple won't buy in to this, but their legal department will probably be in touch very soon. 😆
@christophschug92952 ай бұрын
Nice job! Obvious names for those PCBs would be "Tim" and "Steve" I guess, because back in old days when Steve Jobs was in charge we didn't had to deal with this kind of crap (should be clear, that "Tim" is the PCB which has be soldered onto the logic board).
@neonblurbАй бұрын
Keep the green PCB, since this is a green board! Upgrades keep our Macs out of landfill
@AchakBrooks2 ай бұрын
This is great, thanks for pushing/creating this direction
@FR4M3Sharma2 ай бұрын
@dosdude1 Rubbing his hands together. Laughing menacingly. 😂😂
@joshm2642 ай бұрын
just wait a couple weeks, he'll have a video out I'm sure
@arch11072 ай бұрын
@@joshm264 installing 8 tb modules
@Maurime22 ай бұрын
Wow! What an innovation! Once apple starts doing this, everyone else will too!
@arch11072 ай бұрын
the sarcasm is strong on this comment, i hope
@Nayel-Khouatra2 ай бұрын
Love to see That, I’m Not the Only One, That put the theme of Oppenheimer in the background while working😂🔥🔥
@TheOneboricua12 ай бұрын
Awesome! Like the Rosetta Expander Mod Chip!
@dotnetapp2 ай бұрын
what is the rosetta expander mod chip? searched youtube and google couldnt find anything? But it sounds intresting
@SpandanDas4172 ай бұрын
'iExpand' module or EXPNAND module maybe? haha! Great job as always.
@tomislavdiaz69552 ай бұрын
iExpand maybe have conflicting with iXpand that owned by Western Digital Corporation
@SpandanDas4172 ай бұрын
@@tomislavdiaz6955 Bummer!
@the_architect_8k2 ай бұрын
Nice work! Thank you for pushing the evolution of Macbooks even further! :)
@EricKinkead2 ай бұрын
‘iBoff Removable Datas” SSD! I’ll take 1 Terrabyte Please! 😂
@EvexiansVideoworks2 ай бұрын
I, am, APPALLED at the fact they don‘t even TURN ON without the ssd. This is REPULSIVE. You, my friend. Just did what needed to be done. And i am so grateful. Thank you. ❤
@TrimeshSZ2 ай бұрын
It's just Apple being disgustingly cheap again - on the older machines, the boot code was stored in an SPI flash so even if the drive stopped working the unit could at least power up. On the newer machines, it's striped across the NAND chips used by the SSD so if any of them fails the boot code can't load. This saves them the cost of the SPI flash (I.E. < $1 at the sort of quantities that Apple is dealing with) since they are now stuffing the boot code into the SSD area that the customer has already paid for.
@giornikitop5373Ай бұрын
@@TrimeshSZ it's not the cost of the spi, it's the fact that if the storage fails, you're buying a new computer. an spi chip can be replaced easily even by ppl with minimal skills. the nands however are a different beast.
@Negiku2 ай бұрын
I thought you were going to show us how the slot is attached to the board.
@MrMrmysteria2 ай бұрын
They could but they choose not to…..
@Alobster12 ай бұрын
In the last bit of the video you can see that it needs soldered on to the board.
@arch11072 ай бұрын
soldered, he must be working on mutiple models for the pcb, so not ready to show all details but i bet is soldered where the nanad chips were soldered, simple and smart solution i must say
@MrMrmysteria2 ай бұрын
Ah, ok. My apologies….
@matthewmoon2463Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure I heard this guy say fuctuate. Brilliant.
@TechGameDev2 ай бұрын
you work better than the 160,000 apple employees we need more people like you
@iamblanktape2 ай бұрын
This is amazing! There is no excuss for apple to solder storage.
@TheDefpom2 ай бұрын
That is brilliant.
@flamixinАй бұрын
NO PERFORMANCE CHANGE. The biggest slaps in the face.😂😂😂
@t.mollov5662 ай бұрын
4:00 such user-hostile design apple is implementing... thx to that i'm not apple user.
@enverkaanozcifci2 ай бұрын
make the rams upgradable now, great work
@ericbaluya3612 ай бұрын
Great job. You just burned Apple and put a hit on your head. Expect Apple lawyers visiting you in the next week or so.
@edwardfletcher77902 ай бұрын
This is Genius, i hope you make a LOT of money 👍
@pneuma230932 ай бұрын
You have great taste in music my brother. This channel inspired me to stop buying Apple products. I’m never supporting a company like this again.
@nomecognome22 ай бұрын
So you buy from other companies with even worse ethics
@pneuma230932 ай бұрын
Ethics? Are you really defending Apple’s ethics? This is the same company that consistently works with factories exploiting workers to meet production demands. Other companies are guilty too, but that doesn’t make Apple any better. Or does their “2030 carbon neutral” propaganda magically erase all their wrongdoings? They got caught with their pants down for slowing down old iPhones without warning consumers. It’s strange how their ethics never came into play when it came to disclosing their actions. For a company claiming “amazing ethics,” their anti-repair tactics speak volumes. They actively prevent their suppliers from selling parts directly to third parties, hindering independent repair shops from sourcing components and offering cheaper repair options compared to Apple. That MKBHD interview with John Ternus was laughably bad. The irony was off the charts. “wE dEsIgN pRoDuCtS tO lAsT lOnG.”
@thesidneychan2 ай бұрын
Oh my god you guys are malaysian and are just in the Selangor area! Will definitely keep you guys in mind, but aside from Ram, your work will definitely extend the life of the aging M1s when the SSDs die out.
@sgroadie63672 ай бұрын
Great! Is this available to buy from you? Possible also to upgrade RAM?
@jonny11bonk2 ай бұрын
RAM may not be possible due to the memory controller embedded into the silicon itself, being inaccessible.
@derpythecate68422 ай бұрын
@@jonny11bonk The memory chips (not the controller) is not embedded into the silicon, contrary to popular belief. Its just sitting extremely close to the apple silicon chip on the SoC, hence this reduces latency by design (of apple unified memory). Another video by iBoff did show why he couldn't pull it off. Its external to the SoC (it sits outside of the lid covering the actual Apple silicon chip), but its so close to the SoC chip that its super difficult to remove only the 2 RAM chips without accidentally overheating the SoC and its other small passives. He also showed that its very easy to accidentally delaminate the PCB board. Those have little chance to have an upgrade adaptor - this is due to the fact that memory capacity on Macs are "hardcoded" into the resistors on certain pins likely going to a memory controller on the chip footprint itself. Upgrade itself is not impossible, but the fact that it is hard to remove the RAM chips in the first place and then safely solder a new set onto the SoC makes the task risky.
@joyc.8034Ай бұрын
This concept is perfect and even the prototype is great! need this lol
@algonix112 ай бұрын
40 years ago an ATARI 2600 already had plug-in interfaces, but Apple still can't do it. Apple is laughable.
@arch11072 ай бұрын
cant? no, they can, they can do anything, as proven over the decades the reason to not do it is to remove points of failure, people upgrading things and damaging them in the process or applying rma for things nor proplerly connected on the motherboard also to force you to pay as much as possible for te highest storage possible from the start, they will not get money from aram or storage upgrade, so why let it happen? it has also planned obsolescence implications
@giornikitop5373Ай бұрын
there is a difference between they can't and they won't.
@AlejoRuy2 ай бұрын
This was just a matter of time. You are awesome guys!
@PeakCivilization2 ай бұрын
Imma save you 6:29 minutes : nowhere is it shown how the adapter connects to the motherboard.
@pungkilham88632 ай бұрын
Adapter is soldered to the old nand pad. So, you need to remove the old one first and soldered the adapter. I think this process need the profesional hand or else the macbook will ruin.
@DanielCstudio2 ай бұрын
Please make one for the New Mac Mini!!
@ronlevon42942 ай бұрын
How do you overcome that serialization problem of the NAND, that generally you can replace it only with NAND chip from the same MacBook , from the same place in a MacBook, you cannot just take 2 chips from the shell
@IkaruzZuraki2 ай бұрын
they have information on this in previous videos (or a single video). They have to reprogram the nand-chips in accordance to their placing etc. They did in fact solve this. Which is just amazing to me!
@ronlevon42942 ай бұрын
@@IkaruzZuraki no, reprograming working only on Intel machines, please see the video
@IkaruzZuraki2 ай бұрын
@@ronlevon4294 I could've sworn there was. a m1/m2 configuration out already ... I might be wrong here. I'll look into it once more!
@giornikitop5373Ай бұрын
as long as the chips are supported, it doesn't matter. the programming of the chips is done in dfu mode, using an other mac.
@akierum2 ай бұрын
Is Louis Rossmann selling these yet?
@whatarewedoing02 ай бұрын
How do you attach the m.2 slot? How can you say no soldering?
@oogabooga95462 ай бұрын
it literally says no soldering *after* the modification
@whatarewedoing02 ай бұрын
@@oogabooga9546 so no soldering after the soldering, you can’t have the second part without the first soldering….it requires soldering
@oogabooga95462 ай бұрын
@@whatarewedoing0 yes it does require soldering to attach the m.2 but no more soldering any ssd's to upgrade anymore after modification is what they meant.
@RunForPeace-hk1cu2 ай бұрын
They don’t show whether there’s a performance degrading and latency increase of the 1/2/4/8TB models. 256GB model is the SLOWEST model. M.2 storage should have no problems. I'm not s sure about 2/4/8TB models, which exceeds 5GB/s speeds
@ConteXCrown2 ай бұрын
check if there are any other devices wich have soldered ssds. So you can make a design compatible to mutltiple devices.
@jl0well2 ай бұрын
cx: i want to upgrade my macbook storage guy's at iboff: just send us your macbook and will make that sorcery happen
@JohnWilliams-gy5yc2 ай бұрын
Ntendo: Bruh, do ya need a decent C&D lawyer? Cook: DM me. Thanks, Bruh.
@georgealibinisis48162 ай бұрын
Excellent work as always!
@Flameboi9002 ай бұрын
Louis rossmann needs to see this!
@nakitYT2 ай бұрын
Equaliser : ended the apple storage royalty empire
@alinoz2 ай бұрын
@LouisRossmann is proud of you bro xD
@cubexBeatsАй бұрын
So is it finally possible for everyone to upgrade the internal storage?
@κΥκΥ2 ай бұрын
AINT NO WAY
@gg4ksa2 ай бұрын
I hope you hit 100k before this year ends, because you deserve it ❤
@harshadselvaraj19272 ай бұрын
i would call it the storage kit or R nvme which stands for removable nvme
@fila14452 ай бұрын
name for PCBs the base "suck it" nand bord "apple"
@IkaruzZuraki2 ай бұрын
iBoff_5UCk1t-Rev1 iBoff_4ppl3_subboard :^)
@hwtw2 ай бұрын
I actually need this right now.
@Underestimated372 ай бұрын
The big issue used to be that no major manufacturer made off the shelf parts like this that would have the right timings for the board. New laptop ram coming out soon will have a similar configuration to this, though those boards apparently just interface directly via a replaceable interposer board, maybe something that could be used here too? Make a little pass through piece that just screws down to the motherboard and pogo pins the nvme chip and board to the logic board directly, removing need to permanently solder in an interposer board. (Which may even remove costs as you then don’t need to buy a connector)
@YeOldeKamikaze2 ай бұрын
How long until an update comes along which complains about non-genuine storage, or worse, prevents the laptop from booting at all?
@jchi68222 ай бұрын
Test speeds via Amorphous DiskMark, which supports random access operations tests. Just in case...
@possamei2 ай бұрын
Amazing work. Just goes to show that there's no reason SSDs shouldn't be on sticks. But I also think you should've clarifued that while you're using a regular m.2 port, it is not compatible with regular SSD's and is just a pinout for Apple's regular NANDs in a carrier board.
@KrysztoffDorionАй бұрын
I love the content so much I'll forgive you for using comic sans
@ZachS-f6z2 ай бұрын
You guys are legends. Keep up the good work. I dream to be like you!!!
@derpythecate68422 ай бұрын
To those who complain that the process isn't shown - he does not need to. If you could not figure out how he did it just from this video. You are definitely 100% not the right person to know about how its done, as you replicating what he did will almost definitely cause more hardware damage from ignorance. A common layperson won't have the tool nor skills to pull it off, it would just be encouraging stupidity. You need to work with BGA components (which require the necessary solder masks and precise placement which can be assisted by a machine), a hot air rework station and possibly a preheating plate to prevent thermal damage to the PCB. He also definitely drilled the PCB to hold it in place with an M3 screw, which unless you really know what you are doing, are definitely going to accidentally cut traces, or even build electrostatic charge from the polycarb dust flying out. Even if he sold the kit, only skilled repairmen will take up the work since BGA hard to deal with, the interposer/adapter PCB is not something you could just solder with a generic solder kit. But if you want a summary of the parts he basically created 1) Interposer/adapter module - connected to the BGA slots where the old NAND used to sit. Its designed with a M3 mounting screw, but you probably cannot replicate it exact position unless you have the board schematics to know that part of the PCB is safe to drill through and has no traces. 2) A removable PCB with 2 SSD NAND chips - these have to match apple's allowed NAND for it to work - so you have to find documentation on what exact chips work for your exact model
@arch11072 ай бұрын
thank you for deciding for others what they need or dont need to know in a youtube video, great way of thinking
@spotsnap2 ай бұрын
YES I am struggling with the same issue! I would called it Mac Ripper 💪
@Bong042922 ай бұрын
Hi Can you show us more video for how you put the first (bottom) board at the Soldered storage area?
@parttimedude5440Ай бұрын
Excellent Job! Name Suggestion: RMSC (Removable Modular Storage Card)