Idaho abortion ban leads to medical care shortage

[@NancyMitchell1965]

Hopefully, young women are finally understanding what older ones meant when they warned about "the war on women." It's no longer a threat, a possibility, a scare tactic. It's here. Birth control is next.

[@leahartlee29]

YES! Vote Blue!

[@benibluefoe]

The War on Women has been going on for over 6,000 years. The current crisis is just the same ol' same ol' and nothing new to know.

[@spacebar9733]

Older women raised us I think we grew up understanding it. It is men who need to understand it.

[@fredhoy6697]

As proven by IVF in Alabama. Soon it will be coming to a state near you.

[@maggieking6619]

That's what I've been screeching about since Roe dropped. People pooh pooh that. Including the alleged "Christian" patriarchy running the Misogyny Machine. Younger women seem to think the rights we fought for in the 60s onward are etched in stone in the Constitution....nothing could be farther from the truth. The conservative churches have been plotting since 1973, and started their march to tyranny when they got Reagan into the WH. Please y'all, vote blue

[@fondasarff9701]

Idaho no longer keeps track of maternal deaths. The legislature discontinued the office. As a native born Idahoan I am ashamed of the way my state is treating women. The hospital I was born in now, after over a hundred years, no longer delivers babies. Legislators need to not only be sued for the tragedies their idiocy has caused but charged with manslaughter if not outright murder.

[@pegasus5287]

Why did they stop delivering babies?

[@davedixon2068]

@@pegasus5287 Doctors and midwives are liable, if there is anything wrong they get sued either by the parents if they don't intervene, or by the state if they do intervene, its a no win situation for them so they go elsewhere or leave the profession, I should point out here, that, that is simply the way I analyse the information here just using logic, I have no medical knowledge though I am married to a midwife

[@evientually]

​​@@davedixon2068...so what you're saying is by merit of your partner, you know a _fuckton_ more than any of these politicians. Don't undersell your perspective, man! This is your partner & her clients' lived reality, thus it is also secondarily but still very personally yours.

[@davedixon2068]

@@evientually WOW hit a nerve there! wrong again sonny just making an observation from the post and using COMMON SENSE also I pointed out it was my opinion, the politicians certainly dont know as much as the doctor and the mother, if they want to take the responsibility for the diagnosis then they need to step up when the court case comes and admit it was their fault

[@grahvis]

@@evientually. Having heard what many politicians say, the average reasonably intelligent person is far more knowledgeable than many politicians. Good grief, the Speaker of the House of Representatives Johnson believes the Earth is only 6,000 years old and Noah's Flood actually happened. A politician whose beliefs overrule mountains of evidence, should definitely not be in power.

[@B60658]

When you have a loss of doctors due to your laws, you need to reevaluate your laws. Women need to move out of Idaho.

[@leahartlee29]

YES! Well said.

[@pegasus5287]

How many have died because of this ban?

[@goUkraine]

@@pegasus5287 Unknown at this point. One is too many.

[@michaelshigetani433]

except a lot of states are now saying "if you're pregnant you can't leave" which is insane.

[@leagarner3675]

No, women don't need to leave. Women need to have their rights restored.

[@KaleighMacKay]

Would you want to work in a position where your professional medical opinion could be questioned and ultimately put you in jail? Politicians aren’t doctors, the Supreme Court are not doctors. Doctors are doctors. Let them do their job.

[@leahartlee29]

Very well said!

[@pegasus5287]

Many leaving the field over the vax mandates.

[@Slw1111]

​@@pegasus5287 And the vast majority are not. What does that have to do with Doctors being prosecuted and sent to prison for providing medical care?

[@vforwombat9915]

@@pegasus5287 "over the vax mandates." what vax mandates? the only mandates for vaccinations are, if you want to travel overseas, or if you work for the government. some private businesses also mandate vaccinations. but really, if you're gonna leave the medical field over being mandated to have a vaccine against a pandemic, you shouldn't be in the medical field at all. that's like a football player quitting football because they are required to wear a helmet.

[@crazycat1232]

No women should do abortion unless woman life Is at risk.

[@dryhumorfoe8275]

Doctors will leave when they are threatened with jail time, the loss of their medical license and large fines for the unforgiveable crime of doing their jobs. It is simply reality catching up. Honestly, how can anyone blame them? They spend many years learning how to be doctors and then are under threat for treating women for reproductive issues, 24/7. It's simply not a feasible option for most of them, so of course they will go elsewhere. Some states will end up with an actual medical desert, where docs are few and far between. They will suffer more mothers dying and much higher infant mortality and every thinking person can see this coming. Civilised countries dont treat women or doctors this way, period.

[@seymourbutts4654]

They move. That's what you people want. @@thepotatofuhrer2991

[@lindascott3973]

​@@prophetbaare you really this disgusting or are you being sarcastic ? The only one digging here is you, down to bottom layers of ignorance and hate.

[@lindascott3973]

​@@prophetbawhat on earth is your problem? You seem to be infatuated with ditch digging.

[@Scarter63]

You're going to see hospitals spring up on the blue state borders to red states, and a mass exodus of medial staff, and brain drain out of red states to blue states.

[@thepotatofuhrer2991]

@@prophetba Yessum, da "stowrk" dun brought dem babies, un dem poor "wokes" 👈🤔 haddum NO CONTROL, in seein' dat wuzn't da case... ...cept'in.....a dozen ways..👈🤔 Sucksem'..👈🤔

[@michaelshigetani433]

IT'S NOT ABOUT BABIES IT'S NOT ABOUT SAVING LIVES The GOP wants to punish women. The CRUELTY is the point. The anti-abortion laws aren't written to protect or help anyone. If you read the way they're written, these laws are written to PUNISH. To hurt people .

[@evientually]

AMEN! Yell it louder for the people in the back!!!

[@NYCHFAN]

💯

[@NYCHFAN]

💯

[@tnbrfller]

The United States of Draconian Laws.

[@Palindrome78]

Exactly...and to pander to the truly ignorant and gullible, they invoke "god" as their justification to punish women.

[@ronaldcole7415]

Doctors and nurses would be wise to leave any state with abortion bans. Because eventually, they'll be faced with having to either save someone with a pregnancy issue, or letting them die in an emergency. Just a matter of time. If they help, they go to prison in these states.

[@johnsmith1953x]

This! Times a billion!!

[@ct5625]

Well, here come the consequences of terrible Republican policy. Journalists should have been on this a long time ago. Texas saw a 10% drop in medical graduates heading there in 2022, that number could have only grown in 2023, and you know it's even worse in 2024. Even a 10% drop is not sustainable, because you need new starters just to maintain adequate levels of care to cover retirees, that doesn't even factor in a growing population or changes in medical needs due to spikes in seasonal illness. Couple that with the loss of staff leaving for work in a better state where they aren't threatened with imprisonment just for doing their jobs, and the loss of training staff able to teach new arrivals, and you have exponential growth of decline in services. The same is going to happen to teaching, because hundreds of thousands of teachers want to escape the culture war bs the Republicans are inflicting on them. The people who support these failed policies seem to be unable to work out the inevitable consequences of their own stupidity. They seem to think it will only impact the people they want to target with these policies. But just as we're seeing in Florida with the loss of migrant workers leading to businesses failing, it's all going to have a knock-on impact on tax revenues, education standards, general medical care and so much more. Another good example is Republican states attacking colleges. Students bring money into the community, they work part-time jobs for low pay in bars and restaurants, when your policies threaten those students and they decide to go and study elsewhere you not only see a decline in the student population, you see a decline in tax revenues, loss of business and staff for bars and restaurants, all the supporting industries start to decline. Just ask Detroit what happened due to losing a couple of car plants - and they weren't even integral to public services. That economic collapse happened not just because the plants closed, but because all of the supporting businesses lost their workers, people moved out, stores had to close leading to more unemployment, tax revenues collapsed leading to less investment, leading to more people leaving, leading to more businesses closing, leading to more unemployment. When you vote for politicians who put ideology above common sense and mathematical reality, this is what you get.

[@ecurewitz]

Life expectancy and quality of life will continue to decline in the red states

[@eddavanleemputten9232]

It brings a whole new meaning to the phrase “trickle down economy”. When politicians use the term they’re usually referring to wealth, new employment opportunities etc. Unfortunately, negative effects of decisions taken at the top can trickle down just as well.

[@sarah_757]

To be clear, these are evangelical christian values being enacted by the republicans.

[@xxgoodnevil17xx]

Newdls segments have been reporting this since roe vs Wade was overturned. PBS is a great source for these segments!

[@kerrynofford4727]

On a more cynical line of thought.. 10% or greater drop in medical students attending your universities.. That represents a fairly large drop in income for said institutions.. At what point does it make some of teh courses not sustainable?

[@lightwillprevail]

Government needs to stay out of ALL personal medical decisions. Or pay the price criminally for practicing medicine without a license

[@brailrice]

Just take your vaccine and pipe down.

[@stoopidpursun8140]

Were you saying that when they were mandating an untested, experimental vaccine?

[@grahamjones5400]

Not gonna happen , unless we get rid of government entirely.

[@JasonDrvmz]

People need to make life decisions and be responsible

[@ecurewitz]

Right wing fanatics think they know what’s best for everyone

[@Runny117]

we called it. Supreme court didn't listen

[@maizie9454]

the Supreme Court didnt care

[@grahamjones5400]

Supreme Court should be abolished.

[@CentralKentuckyElevators]

Idaho hasn’t voted for a Democrat President since 1964, a Democrat senator since 1974, and a Democrat governor since 1990. Sounds like Idaho’s leaders are listening to their constituents calls to protect life. Sounds like, oh I don’t know, DEMOCRACY.

[@SFoureman]

​@@grahamjones5400 No. The Trump nominees should be stripped from the court; along with Thomas.

[@lindascott3973]

​@@SFouremanany of the Justices that lied during their confirmation hearings should be impeached and disbarred. Any of the justices found to take bribes or to not recuse themselves from issues where a family member is involved should likewise be impeached.

[@Scarter63]

"I didn't see this coming", said no OB/GYN ever. It's not going to be just doctors leaving the state. Anyone with the skills, money, education, or luck will be leaving restrictive red states for blue states that still have personal freedom.

[@ecurewitz]

Everyone saw this coming except pro lifers

[@leahartlee29]

ANTI-CHOICERS. They are anything but "pro-life" as these horrific laws show. Don't call them that!@@ecurewitz

[@kerrynicholls6683]

I didn’t see this coming, why would anyone think that this would happen? I’m shocked and disgusted by the Supreme Court’s decision. It’s cruel, and I didn’t ever consider that this was something that could happen. Maybe it’s because I don’t live in America. Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺

[@Mossbeehave]

American the communist country!!! It’s happening slowly!!! Trump loves Putin more than Americans!!! Praying for that it never happens!

[@curiousnerdkitteh]

Lack of doctors is going to be yet another thing that makes red states worse than blue states.

[@Whiskey.T.Foxtrot]

I can understand why OB/Gyn's are fleeing Idaho. Politicians addicted to evangelical PAC money and healthcare for women are not compatible concepts.

[@lonniehubbard2302]

Add the Mormons to the list of those responsible for this mess...

[@KD-up3sz]

I am a woman living in Idaho, and this healthcare reality is nauseating and terrifying.

[@Palidor19]

I can't even imagine what this looks for Idaho women. Sick GOP

[@justjoanish]

​@@Palidor19 It's kind of scary. Idaho didn't use to be this deep red but then ultra conservatives from all over the country decided Idaho was utopia for them.

[@Palidor19]

Yes. I remember listening to a podcast story several months ago about an obgyn with a great career and family that was seriously considering leaving if the worst case scenario happen in the state. A few weeks later they did an update and she did leave. Leaving only a few doctors left. If they pass a national ban, this is going to be happen all around the country and virtually all women lives will be in danger

[@pegasus5287]

move away. Why live where you are terrified?

[@KD-up3sz]

@@justjoanish Very true! Interesting fact: We had democratic governors for a solid 24 years 1971-1995. My entire childhood + in Idaho. Granted, Idaho was still overwhelmingly Republican, but not the same Republican party of today.

[@sue7734]

This is what happens when you allow religion to dictate laws.

[@pegasus5287]

Should it be the world according to sue?

[@evientually]

​​@@pegasus5287perhaps not Sue, but certainly not Homicidal Sky Daddy.

[@kinasakuraba]

Separation of church and state is in the Constitution!

[@lonniehubbard2302]

Absolutely. This is the responsibility of the Latter Day Saints, formerly called Mormons.

[@frostfree7]

@@lonniehubbard2302 In Idaho yes, in other states it's other branches of Christianity with similar attitudes and desires.

[@Tarry_Plaguer]

Oregon is getting hit hard with all the mothers fleeing Idaho, it is impacting our ability to care for our own mothers. You will notice that she had to travel all the way to Portland to get help. That route passed through La Grande, Pendleton, and Hermiston, to name a few, all of which have large hospitals that are inundated with patients right now. What is really laughable is that we have had ballots up for vote by the Republicans about annexing part of Oregon into Idaho. The majority of the South Eastern portion of the state is pure MAGA extremist rural Republican, and they want to join Idaho. 🙄 Maybe we should start a business swapping families? 🤔 You want to be part of Idaho, and you want to leave it? Well we can swap your mortgages. 🤑

[@29levels50]

As an Oregonian I am proud my state has stepped up as best it can to fill in the gaps. As women from other states travel here for care, maybe they will stay once they have a taste of true freedom. Regardless, the increase in demand for doctor's appointments will increase the demand for doctors. We'll happily take the ones that Idaho drove away.

[@mydrouno]

My mother in law is an OB, and she stands for women's rights and safety! Vote BLUE! 💙

[@SlimKeith11]

Yeah Mother in Law! 👍

[@ocorley3124]

Idk what an OB is, but definitely vote blue!!!

[@mydrouno]

@ocorley3124 🤣 I feel you! OB/GYN is an obstetrician gynecologist. She is a GYN, taking care of women's reproductive health, and OB, involves treating women through pregnancy, delivering babies, and surgeries when needed. She's great!

[@g.k.1669]

What is a woman?@@mydrouno

[@mydrouno]

@@g.k.1669 you know what a woman is

[@teresalegler2777]

This is so disturbing. How many women, children and families are being devastated by these changes in law.

[@ct5625]

It's going to be millions. You see, the morons who cheered for all of this failed to think any further than their own ignorant ideology, so they're not able to realize that chasing medical staff and teachers out of your state will mean a decline in services for EVERYONE. Class sizes are about to start doubling in the states where they're engaged in a culture war against education, increasing the stress on the teachers who remain, leading to exponential decline in education standards. The same is happening to medicine generally in these states. Graduates are going elsewhere, teaching staff are leaving for sane states, the workload on those who stay behind grows until it's unbearable... Republicans have created a nexus of idiocy by attacking healthcare, education and business investment (no corporation is going to invest and expand into a region where healthcare and economics are collapsing). November will be decisive. Millions of people are holding on hoping that things change, and when they don't there's going to be a mass internal migration.

[@ecurewitz]

Too mamy

[@lindascott3973]

The pro-life movement does not care.

[@glasgowdoors3464]

Are you forced to live there? Move out to Oakland California, they say it's pretty cheap and safe

[@64smiles42]

Fearmongering report....How many women, children and families have been saved by this ban...future scientists, artists, musicians doctors, teachers, blessing mankind with their gifts and talents.

[@annerose7571]

In rural California, there is a group of pilots, doctors, nurses, and plane owners that fly medically endangered people to hospitals. Maybe Idaho needs to start that practice, since their cruel, dangerous, stupid law is harming Idaho's mothers and babies and OB doctors.

[@patricial.6758]

Dig ditches? Who do you intend this for? Would you please translate to plain English with proper syntax like a normal person.

[@leagarner3675]

Just make self-determination in healthcare a legal right for all.

[@benibluefoe]

Never going to happen for Women and Girls. Laws for healthcare or access to healthcare will only change when males are adversely affected. We Women, as per usual, are considered things for use and abuse, so do not warrant considerations given most housepets.

[@leagarner3675]

@@benibluefoe not me

[@leagarner3675]

@@benibluefoe We have nearly all the power.

[@grahamcampbell8297]

I hope doctors in the state tell their patients bluntly why there aren’t enough doctors available, especially if they start complaining.

[@MarksGamePlayPage]

IDAHO KILLS! MOVE OUT

[@glasgowdoors3464]

Yeah move out to Downtown Oakland they say it's cheap and very safe.

[@carolynritchey28]

INDEED!

[@glasgowdoors3464]

@@DT-ht8jn No, and even if i will SO WHAT. i can do it as many times as i want to. Deal with it

[@davidholyoake5767]

not so easy for some people to up and move.

[@tfe6705]

@glasgowdoors3464 OK you little petulant child, go sit at the kids’ table. This discussion is for grown-ups.

[@keithosmond5730]

American health professionals: my province (Newfoundland and Labrador) is hiring. As are most Canadian provinces. No absurd abortion laws to worry about. No fascists or religious zealots threatening to end democracy. Just sayin'...

[@Whiskey.T.Foxtrot]

Exactly. Here in Canada, we would welcome American doctors with open arms. We don't jail doctors for providing professional healthcare.

[@pegasus5287]

What if they didnt want to give their patients the vax?

[@keithosmond5730]

@@pegasus5287 We are looking for medical professionals - not quacks.

[@kerrynicholls6683]

Absolutely. Same here, in Australia. It hasn’t been all bad living as a commonwealth country. After seeing America turn into insanity, I don’t ever want to not be a commonwealth country. Watching as one man, destroyed the world’s respect for America, and turned it into a laughingstock, before Trump I had respect for America as a country, when Trump became president, with all the lies and fake news, and insane stories. Trump made us laugh at how stupid he was, and by extension the people who voted for him. Since he is still out there, doing and saying stupid and horrible things, we continue to laugh. But we aren’t laughing at the president anymore. Joe Biden is a bit older but he’s a 1000% better than trump could ever be. I hope Americans stand up for themselves and vote blue, up and down the ballot. They need to stop the Supreme Court’s unconstitutional decision and they are the only party that will. There’s no hope for anyone who has an R next to their name. Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺

[@kerrynicholls6683]

@stopthecrazyguy9948 I bet there is. Which is why they want to work elsewhere. See previous video for reasons.

[@coreysue3451]

barbaric times for women...again...stupreme court needs restocking

[@mikemagura7064]

State legislature has lost it's mind and the governor is too afraid of the radical right to stop this nonsense. Idaho used to be a moderate thoughtful state but not anymore! Born and raised in Idaho

[@thepotatofuhrer2991]

Let 'em all go dig ditches...🤷..

[@tajr.2650]

Less than five full time left in the ENTIRE state. That’s crazy. 😩 DO NOT MOVE TO IDAHO LADIES!!

[@pegasus5287]

Many leaving over the vax mandate. Terrible shortage in california now.

[@mementomori7825]

​@@pegasus5287who wants idiots as their health care providers? Pro disease care workers should change occupation..

[@natalybailey820]

Being told to get a shot to keep your job like people have agreed to do since the freaking polio vaccine, is not the same as telling women they need to crash and nearly die to be saved from their dying fetus . Just remember, that situation could happen to you or someone you love.

[@xtinkerbellax3]

The lies we tell ourselves@@pegasus5287

[@MuricaTurkey]

Source? A quick Google search brings up dozens of operating Ob/Gyn locations (clinics, hospitals, women's health centers), all over ID. US Health has 302 Ob/Gyns currently listed and available in ID. Do you mean less than 5 that do abortion are present in ID? Because most specialists that perform abortion are not actually Ob/Gyns, but rather are nurses or other medical personnel who have training in abortion procedures. Only about 14% of all Ob/Gyns are abortion providers (via peer reviewed paper, conducted for Obstet Gynecol, 2011, found on National Library of Medicine) And that overall, for the country, in 2011. 2011. Way before Roe v. Wade was overturned. I'm very curious to see where you heard that there is only 5 Ob/Gyns for the entire state. But you're not going to cite it, are you. Btw, I'm a woman, and I've voted pro-Choice my entire life. Just FYI. Won't be anymore, of course. Because it's become very clear the past couple years that my former side is playing that "ends justify the means" game. Lie, cheat, steal, fear-monger. Won't play that game anymore. Won't play it for the other side, either. I'll never support another party again. Only sane ideas with PROOF behind them. So I ask again.. source? If you feel angry right now, I suggest you ask yourself why such a reasonable question might make you feel that way.

[@dannmarceau]

They vote for Trump/Republican but head over here (Washington state) for medical care, a 75% increase of Idahoans seeking health care in WA state from January 2022 to early 2023.

[@andym4695]

I have to admit, whenever I hear about stuff like this, the B-52's "Private Idaho" pops into mind.

[@dannmarceau]

How any woman could vote Republican astonishes me. Vote Blue💙

[@ecurewitz]

There are very stupid or out there

[@yvr2002rtw]

Unfortunately some just vote for whomever their husband or father is voting for as they haven't taken the time to do their own research.

[@Whiskey.T.Foxtrot]

Stockholm syndrome or life-long evangelical indoctrination.

[@64smiles42]

Another LIFE!

[@JamesBarner-lz3lg]

Im sure there will be lots of divorces once they find or figure it out.

[@lindaSmith6588]

Vote BLUE 🗳. Down the ticket. Women's Healthcare matters!!!

[@Julian198-hv2zx]

Vote Blue for this especially but for a functional government-these CRs are GOP band aids.

[@masona.9875]

Except not the women in the womb, right?

[@kriskeena9438]

Fetus. Word is fetus.

[@VV-lz1xp]

@@ironbar4504Yes you are

[@moonshoes11]

@@masona.9875 You don’t understand biology if you think there are women in any womb. Your religion has failed you.

[@SuperChriscunningham]

The hillbilly state of the west

[@brailrice]

Embrace your diversity.

[@ecurewitz]

Idaho isn’t the only one

[@Ahzpayne]

Idaho. Nevada. Texas. Arizona. All vying to lead the New Confederacy.

[@justjoanish]

Idaho - The Mississippi of the North.

[@kelliott7864]

Western Florida

[@Februarylove]

Keep abortion safe and legal!

[@annnee6818]

"Keep"?

[@magdadarling2655]

Perhaps we should offer our thoughts and prayers to the people of Idaho. Just look how successful that strategy has been in stopping mass shooting in this country!

[@lindaward3156]

How frustrating it must be to be a doctor and unable to use your skills and having to choose between your patient and jail

[@trippeddownthestairs8238]

I would say that I feel bad for the people of Idaho, except that they WANTED THIS! Idaho has voted for Republicans for generations. The voters heard pro-life messages for decades and they elected Republicans. They signed up for this! That makes it very hard for me to have sympathy for anyone involved. Idahoans bought the ticket. Now they can enjoy the ride.

[@thepotatofuhrer2991]

Let 'em all go dig ditches...🤷..

[@niclewis9610]

"For 54 years they were trying to get Roe v Wade terminated, and I did it, and I'm proud to have done it" - Donald Trump Remember in November 🌊🌊🌊

[@user-le4tw8bp6z]

He's disgusting

[@pegasus5287]

He didn't terminate it. The supreme court handed the decision back to the states. If you want to live in a state that provides abortions, then do so. Stay out of those rural areas. Soon enough muslims will outnumber the pesky Christians anyway and you wont have to worry about the crazy christians

[@64smiles42]

Yes, think of all the LIVES he's saved!!!! Roe was bad law to before with! Let the states decide just like Capital Punishment and Euthanasia.

[@noemidejesus-aponte3318]

Trump is an abnormality and anti-women rights to healthcare. If any woman loses her life bc of this laws, I recommend bring charges against Trump, GOP Republicans and the SCOTUS for being murderers!

[@nmappraiser9926]

@@64smiles42 Why do Republicans hate freedom so much? Reagan would be rolling in his grave.

[@nomad2175]

Practicing medicine without a license is a crime

[@davedemyan3302]

Legalize faith healers, then it won't be a crime. Don't you know how to operate a theocracy. You big silly.

[@cathiehutcheson6556]

Good; let all the doctors leave Idaho and let’s see how the people manage with no doctors snd nurses.

[@davedemyan3302]

Sign below welcome to Idaho reads "Faith Healers Wanted", no qualifications needed. Start today.

[@theresamariegoesplaces9688]

Every GOP voter should be required to go visit their legislator for their heath care needs from now on. Let's see how long they live with those religious dirtbags handing out medical advice

[@LeahGlazier]

They will Blame Biden 😊

[@user-th1pv6ks5o]

​@@davedemyan3302 I mean this WILL increase the problem of "Certified" professional midwives. Just look up CPM, vs. CNM complication rate.

[@DimaRakesah]

I understand it feels like people there "Deserve" this for voting in politicians who brought it about but not everyone in Idaho wanted this or even had a say. I really hope those people can get help and get out.

[@Kwk16534]

I wish the women who have suffered would be able to sue for huge settlements that would stop this punishing legislation

[@vrsalcedo7245]

If legislators want to pass this kind of legislation, then people harmed by that legislation should be able to sue the legislators directly.

[@olympic-gradelurker]

Can't sue if you're dead from sepsis because they wouldn't let you abort a decomposing dead fetus. That's why Idaho disbanded tracking maternal mortality rates.

[@studydude]

There is more to this story as well, I live in Idaho, our legislature spends quality time introducing bills to criminalize doctors and send them to prison literally, mostly revolving around areas of gender, abortion, and even giving covid shots.

[@justjoanish]

Idaho here also. If I could afford to move I would. All I can do is encourage my kids with their families to not move back here, which is Idaho's loss since they're all trained professionals.

[@snowrose101]

The Supreme Court and states never considered that a total ban on abortions might mean certain death for a number of women. Just the placenta separating from the uterus can happen to 1 in 100 women, per the March of Dimes. That's a LOT of pregnant women that might need either an emergency delivery or a lifesaving abortion, depending on whether the fetus is old enough to breathe on its own.

[@ecurewitz]

The anti abortion men in those red states don’t care

[@pambp5978]

Unfortunately some people who think they know best can't tell the difference between a fetus or pregnancy that is healthy or one that is not viable. It's quite a shame.

[@justjoanish]

They knew, they just don't care. Their moral indignation is more important to them than women's lives.

[@sarah_757]

I'm sure they were aware. They just don't care. They were paid a lot of money to strip our rights, and they did the job they were well-paid to do.

[@rridderbusch518]

*OBGYN and youTuber Dr. Mama Jones has not only left her state -- she's left the country and practices in New Zealand now. She now has true FREEDOM to be a Doctor!*

[@kerrynicholls6683]

Yep, which also means she doesn’t get paid based on how many scripts she writes or how many pregnancy’s she does. Insurance companies don’t control most of the hospitals. Yes there are private hospitals, that people can pay to go to, but we also have hospitals for everyone, run by the government for the people. It’s really good for everyone, same with the prisons. Which gives prisoners meals and exercise and healthcare. The only thing that you lose when you go into one of our prisons is your freedom. People don’t die because of bugs and starvation.

[@DarknessFalls29]

I didn't realize she up and moved to the other side of the world. Now that's definitely getting far away from the bull crap spreading in the U.S. medical community and politicians playing doctors. Good for her!

[@Volf1916]

How fortunate they can be at ease that they voted into office such medically competent politicians who know what is best. No need for medical professionals when the politicians and religeios leaders can give thought and prayers that always work. Live it, leave it or vote and change it. You want a choice? Want a say? Vote, or accept that you are free to leave the state.

[@raptor7869]

You can thank the RepubliCON party for these radical and dangerous policies. Vote Blue to end the insanity

[@blakej1892]

But the Idaho majority will still overwhelmingly vote to keep the state government in GQP control, and send GQP senators and house representatives to Washington D.C.

[@31webseries]

Hmm, put abortion on the ballot. Give em a chance. It's not just ob-gyns who will be leaving. Emergency room doctors will be next. Just wait and see.

[@ct5625]

Then the people of Idaho deserve to live like citizens of a collapsing nation. People who want a better life had better start making plans to move, because it's only going to get worse. What happened to Detroit is a good parallel. While that was primarily triggered by the loss of industry, the impact of fleeing labor led to massive reduction in tax revenues, followed by skyrocketing unemployment in the supporting industries. In this case it's going to be worse and it will happen more quickly, because it's not a gradual collapse of industry which then leads to a collapse in vital services, they're skipping the start and going straight into causing a collapse of those vital services.

[@KD-up3sz]

@@ct5625 No woman "deserves" this. I live in Idaho and vehemently oppose the ban. Most families can't just uproot and move spontaneously.

[@Wangchung405]

⁠@@ct5625exactly! Idaho is horrible get out while you can. Tell your friends too!!

[@justjoanish]

​Same here. I can't afford to move but I do encourage my son with his wife and 2 daughters not to move back here.​@@KD-up3sz

[@ronniet71]

Idaho will soon have 0 woman of childbearing age in that state. They will all leave including medical providers that serve them and the state will feel the impact of their unreasonable actions .

[@susanford2388]

Then either the entire state will vote Blue or get rid of the SC & start a new

[@pegasus5287]

Sounds anti democracy

[@Kwk16534]

God willing

[@emilyfeagin2673]

They don’t care they will just import foreign wonen

[@Charmcity199]

Idaho is a problem for Washington state and has been for years. During the pandemic Idahoans wouldn’t wear masks or get vaccines and the hospitals in ID could not handle the overload of patients because of the stupidity of the state population. Patients had to be transported to WA state and ended up overloading our healthcare system. Many of the patients didn’t have health insurance (shocker) and WA state had to foot a portion of the bill. Now they are doing it with prenatal healthcare.

[@PlaystationMasterPS3]

Idaho is the new Jersey of Washington

[@emilyfeagin2673]

PlaystationMasterPS3 I think NJ does a better job than that

[@wendybutler1681]

Vote blue down the ticket. Give the message we are DONE with the maga cult.

[@ecurewitz]

Put those right wing crazies out of office

[@FLEABONE]

This isn't just impacting women. I'm in Idaho caring for my elderly parents and it seems like doctors of every ilk are leaving. There is a 6-9 month wait for neuro-psychology and rheumatology care in the Treasure Valley, thats Boise and the suburbs. From 2001-2004 my infant son had to have 3 open heart surgeries and they were all done here in Boise. Now, 22 years later, he would have to go to Salt Lake City or Portland for any pediatric surgeries. We keep making the best places to live lists but they are not accounting for the far right GOP super majority and their backwards thinking. They are currently taking up legislation to uphold housing discrimination based on income because the Boise Mayor has made efforts to stop section 8 discrimination.

[@hcgtrplaya92986]

Going to be tough on them red states, not having adequate medical care. Almost makes you not want to live there. 🤣

[@kathrynmcewen2583]

come to canada to work. We need more health professionals. Welcome you with open arms!

[@benyomovod6904]

The handmaids tale becoming reality

[@FehrGormenghastTodd]

I'm afraid so... little by little. To think that not just 2 years ago, but 30 years ago women had more rights and equality than now is crazy...

[@mariannblossick]

I'm glad I am past child bearing years but sad for young women today. Govmt need to stay out of my body!

[@stephaniedeering5563]

Leave Idaho with a population of old men !! LOL

[@riareed1269]

And young mn as well.

[@melindaunknown6411]

The very brilliant citizens of Idaho voted for this. You get what you deserve.

[@chelittle6433]

And Idaho is going to find out it's going to lead to a population and economic shortage as well. Or at least until the federal government institutes and holds accountable politicians in robes that are sitting on the Supreme Court who committed this unconstitutional act.

[@pegasus5287]

Abortion rights are in the constitution?

[@highwildplacesphotography]

@@pegasus5287Before the Extreme Court overturned the right to abortion...yes, the right to abortion was legally part of the Constitution. But the right-wing court decided that after 45 years, it no longer was.

[@resterAnonyme]

Voters voted these legislators in, if you don’t like it and worried for your life leave, which is easier said than done. If you’re a doctor leave. Vote with your feet if nobody is willing to listen.

[@asheronwindspear552]

If you tell people that they're going to be in legal trouble for doing their job, it's not surprising when they don't want to work. Unfortunately they have potatoes running the state.

[@pegasus5287]

Smae thing is happening in California because of the vax mandate. Doctors and nurses leaving the medical field altogether. We have a terrible shortage now.

[@asheronwindspear552]

@@pegasus5287 X to doubt.

[@kerrynicholls6683]

Thou shall do no harm. Well that’s going to be difficult to not do. Leaving people with a dead foetus is definitely causing harm. How can a doctor chose between their oaths as a doctor or going directly against that oath. Insanity. Truly devastating for women, their families and the doctors. Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺

[@vsrump]

let's face it , Idaho lives in the DARK AGES

[@Eyeris625]

This is the republicans fault because nobody invited them to our bedrooms nor the doctor's office.

[@xstreamoneya]

Hey y’all, you can always come to Ontario Canada where we don’t have any problems like this. You’re welcome.

[@minimaladjacent]

maga crap is seeping in, anti vax anti lgbtq, cons bring up abortion its here too. don't think it could get as bad as the usa tho. we definitely need more drs here.

[@user-ij6vg8xq2r]

Thank your Repub representatives by voting Democratic! 💙

[@margiestevens2384]

When you penalize the medical staff and threaten their ability to support their families, they are going to go elsewhere. When you break their hearts by forcing them to watch patients die when they could have saved them, they will change professions.

[@artemisfowl2820]

Stupidity of these religious fanatics! 🙄

[@blessedcutie8983]

Hateful people never see the full picture until it is too late.

[@lancejordan2561]

Idaho GOP, government first, maternal health last.

[@211Shinobu]

More than half of incoming medical students are women (who could become pregnant and need a lifesaving abortion during their training). Idaho is not only driving away seasoned doctors, but also medical students and residents (and their doctor spouses) who don't want to go to Idaho in the first place. Anyone who could become pregnant should avoid the state if they can.

[@benjamindemontgomery6317]

If politicians are going to be in charge of medical care should they not have to swear the doctors oath. They legislate but they do not suffer Anny consequences for their actions.

[@GS-cg3yn]

What a mess. 😔 No one should be making decisions about what happens in a uterus other than the owner of uterus.

[@G0NZ-b9y]

Vote Blue 💙

[@burnout_2017]

Red states are like living in a prison. Who threatens doctors, librarians, and teachers with jail time for doing their jobs???? Red states

[@elaineisabelle427]

Well thats what they wanted so everyone has to pay for it bcuz of a bunch of extremists.

[@thepotatofuhrer2991]

Let 'em all go dig ditches...🤷..

[@leonalivingston8041]

America has such a narcissistic attitude. Everyone acts for themselves with no sense of empathy or thought for others. We keep trying to tell you that these conservative laws hurt EVERYONE but no one listens. So even the “good” people who just want to pop out as many babies as their God wants them to are running into issues finding quality care cause all the obgyns are leaving. And they don’t want “lazy” poor people getting healthcare so everyone would rather pay the outrageous insurance premiums instead of allowing for universal healthcare. You can’t have a thriving, healthy population if absolutely every person acts in their own self interest. You HAVE to care about others.

[@verilyheld]

Idaho, where the potatoes are smarter than many of the people!

[@christinemcleod4273]

Agreed.....why to go Idaho

[@pegasus5287]

They have the best potatoes, which is why mcdonalds fries are so delish.

[@Mossbeehave]

At least they can produce more potatoes 🥔 than babies now !!!

[@emilyfeagin2673]

And there are states with better tasting potatoes

[@StrawberryDragon645]

This is what happens when idiots with a cause have tunnel vision and don’t consider the bigger picture and implications. With fewer health care providers, it is only a matter of time when their beloved women are adversely impacted. All this is heartbreaking.

[@wilfriedholscher7029]

All Republican States....... VOTE BLUE IN ROEVEMBER

[@DecenterMen]

It's a War Against Women not a war against abortion.

[@mikejohnson4617]

Idaho - Reap what you sow.

[@Strykenine]

The only option at this point is for the legislators in DC to pass a federal law enshrining the right to female bodily autonomy. It seems insane that a law like that is even required today in the 21st century, but here we are.

[@wendybutler1681]

Parts of Oregon want to join Idaho. Won't happen. We're making them suffer the existence in our democratic, far-seeing state. Poor babies, all that freedom is too scary for them, they might have to think for themselves.

[@carl-oh5bl]

its easy to go to another state for treatment , but what about those can't afford to leave or travel..

[@inapickle806]

People in emergency situations won't be able to leave or get the care they need.

[@annadeen6437]

💙bless you ladies💙

[@kcoup1626]

I know multiple OBGYNs in Spokane WA ... we're right next to the Idaho border ... their offices are being overrun by women forced to flee ID in order to get the care they need. I recently was told about a woman who became septic after a miscarriage that didn't fully expel. Idaho would not allow her to have the surgery ... she became septic and wound up in the ICU ... nearly died. The state will not allow the doctors to perform their duty of "first do no harm" ... so all the OBGYNs are leaving the state or just ceasing to practice medicine. Pregnant women in Idaho are going to needlessly die ... it's horrific.

[@daedaeiconic66]

Blue wave baby 🌊🟦🇺🇸

[@tommunyon2874]

This was foreseeable, at least for legislators who haven't donned Evangelical blinders. Superstition should not overrule common sense.

[@________o6474]

Thanks Republicans.

[@evientually]

Oh my God! Doctors don't want to practice in an area where their life saving decisions are potentially scrutinized/undermined/made retroactively illegal under a standard so vague they risk prison even if they do _everything_ right, and that while walking a tightrope that means their potential patients have to be actively dying already, when it makes no sense to let them get that far along since it can often be avoided? When neither medical reality nor a patient's needs/desires matter at all in the face of laws put in place largely by men & religious zealots whose religious opinions don't belong in government or medicine? I am so, so shocked!

[@stanislausklim7794]

That's not how it works. This whole thing is incorrect. Doctors aren't going to be punished for treating miscarriages or ectopic pregnancies.

[@sassynana5201]

Shame on Idaho. We are NOT a “Christian nation.” We are a nation that celebrates and supports religious freedom, regardless of affiliation.

[@abegilbert5113]

Idaho also wants residents medical records from other states. Idaho also wants to govern 60% of Washington and Oregon by moving the state boundaries.

[@beliasanders7984]

This is what the smart republicans are doing!!!

[@emilyfeagin2673]

There is no such thing

[@lamoinette23]

Don't we call this practicing Medicine without a license?

[@bepriceless]

Idaho; first in domestic terrorists, last in medical care.

[@Whit-wy2ow]

I'm from Idaho. My mother's family is from Idaho, since before it was a state. I moved back a year ago to help care for my grandmother. She and my parents have been asking when I'll have a baby. I told them never. Never in this state that would rather have me die. The risk is not worth it. Idaho didn't used to be this way. Did you know it was one of the first to allow women to vote? It's changed so much and not in a good way. The state that existed a decade ago is gone. It's another place now. A cruel and selfish one. As soon as I can I'll leave.

[@armandhammer2235]

It's called a miscarriage and the body does that.

[@pain3534]

You didn't go to medical school, Stop trying to take away women's right over their own bodies!

[@MetaphorUB]

If only someone could have seen this coming…

[@JayeEllis]

I know I don't blame the doctors. And gee, who could possibly have predicted an abortion ban would cause a rise in the maternal mortality rate? Shocker.

[@darrylskylar8757]

Doctors NOT politicians should be in charge of medical decisions!

[@erinmac4750]

This gives "Living in your own private Idaho" an entirely new meaning. 🤬💔

[@eco2geek.]

Vote in a majority republican legislature and this is what you get. Now that Roe v. Wade's been tossed out, they will enact strict anti-abortion laws. It's pretty cut and dried. The reporters should ask whether these women and these health care providers voted for republicans.

[@396375a]

When the politicians/judges start facing a crisis with a daughter or granddaughter with an at-risk pregnancy, then things might change. Then again, they'll probably just very quietly send their loved one to a blue state for life saving medical care.

[@vrsalcedo7245]

They definitely will send them off to a blue state for medical care. If it gets out that Gov. So and So's daughter went to a hospital in another state to get a medically necessary abortion, they will scream from the highest hills that their family's medical situations are personal and their privacy should be respected. Then they will try to sue anyone they can. And still pass laws against abortion. GOP politicians have no shame. Cruelty IS the point.

[@ronlynnsnively5323]

I know couples want to create families, but I wonder what would those restrictive governments do if the birthrate plummeted to zero for a few years because couples refused to become pregnant in such a hostile environment?

[@katherines144]

Birth rates are crashing. It's going to be South Korea 2.0 with the 4B movement here soon. I personally love it. Gotta show these losers that they can't control women. We will simply stop messing with men altogether.

[@emilyfeagin2673]

They know “ accidents happen”.

[@juggaloprofessorknowbodyim3215]

So I live in Spokane Washington, just a few minutes from the Idabo border. You should do a segment on the spillover effect, the reason why the one lady had to go as far as Portland for care. But in short, our hospital parking lots are mostly full of Idaho licence plates and it is hard for locals to get care as the local healt system is overloaded.

[@Patty-bs3bz]

I can’t help but think about how Amy Comey Barrett, a female SC Justice, helped make this happen. It’s going to be a mark on her for the rest of her life.

[@katherines144]

I believe in reincarnation. That soul will deal with that for however many lifetimes it takes to atone 🎉

[@stevesecret2515]

She is a religious fanatic who wants to force others to obey her religion.

[@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT]

She and her closed circle of friends will always be taken care of. The disastrous effects of her decisions exist only as pure legal abstraction.

[@jjjez]

She’s a nut job so she doesn’t mind being worked. She thinks she doing gods work