IDMT Relay setting calculation|TIME GRADATION|RELAY CO-ORDINATION

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ELECTRICAL TECHNOLOGY and INDUSTRIAL PRACTICE

ELECTRICAL TECHNOLOGY and INDUSTRIAL PRACTICE

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@hassanmohammady9827
@hassanmohammady9827 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great description and clarifying time gradation for different voltage level and time zone from fault accruing point of view. Good job
@owinookello9358
@owinookello9358 2 жыл бұрын
i really 💕 your videos salute you am in kenya sir Keep up
@papun8450
@papun8450 4 жыл бұрын
Sir very nicely explained, very critical concept.
@owinookello9358
@owinookello9358 2 жыл бұрын
hi sir you are genius ,kindly keep more videos on protection and coordination
@bhuwantiwari6128
@bhuwantiwari6128 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Keep it up.
@learnbyshiva725
@learnbyshiva725 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video thanks sir
@surendrakverma555
@surendrakverma555 4 жыл бұрын
Very good lecture Sir. Thanks
@amant1440
@amant1440 3 жыл бұрын
Good explanation.
@engrrehan9247
@engrrehan9247 4 жыл бұрын
very very great bro , i learned a lot today
@rukmagoud
@rukmagoud 5 жыл бұрын
superb sir, These things are not taught in engineering . It is learnt during job work only
@guelordmubwa569
@guelordmubwa569 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly ... engineering schools don’t teach these stuff .. thanks to KZbin
@balajigovindarajan9160
@balajigovindarajan9160 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and clearly explained the all details of Protection coordination and relay selection. This is one of the excellent video i seen in my lifetime. Could you please provide similar for Underground cable protection and how to select the settings and discrimination ?
@mangesh2370
@mangesh2370 2 жыл бұрын
very well explained
@tasnimalam9256
@tasnimalam9256 4 жыл бұрын
you people are great
@vishalpandule5585
@vishalpandule5585 5 жыл бұрын
Well explained! Thank you.
@egertondidikallay9449
@egertondidikallay9449 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Lecture. I'm very impressed.
@oledorrs
@oledorrs 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge..
@chintanvaria2238
@chintanvaria2238 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful explanation. Also make a video on what should be the pick up value of current for both Relays i.e (51,50) and (51N,50N) feeder wise. Also explain upto how many upstream relays should be taken as backup protection for the downstream relays.
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
Suppose you set the pick up current for 51 at 120% of of the full load current, then you may set 50 pick up at 600%. It depends upon the withstand characteristics of the equipment to be protected. There is no such had and first rule
@chintanvaria2238
@chintanvaria2238 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. In the explained case, I should set the Incomer of PCC at 120% of transformer LT side FLA as pickup value for 51. But what should be the pick up value for 50? On which basis I should set it's pick up value? Means 600% of what? For motor and transformer feeder, I understood. But it's confusing when it comes for any Incomer of PCC or MCC for 50.
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
For incomer of pcc from trafo does not have 50. They only have 51. Remember 50 shall be given for the last feeder at certain voltage level. Like motor. Or transformer. Say you have a 11/0.433 kV trafo. So at 11 kV level you will give 50. Because at 11 kV the trafo is the end feeder. That means fault current is fixed. When you will go to the 415 V side there you will get a different fault current. At 11 kV there shall be anotger 51, which shall be the back up of the 415v (pcc incomer) 51 relay. Here the 50 will have a pick up sightly higher than the transformer inrush current.suppose the trafo takes 11 times of hv side full load current as inrush. SO 50 puck up will be higher than that
@souderthiraghavendra8857
@souderthiraghavendra8857 5 жыл бұрын
Sir, When the last feeder say a motor or an SFU is considered and inst time is considered as 25 MS . Then the buscoupler operating time is 25 MS + 250 MS= 275 MS , Isnt it ? 250 MS being the discriminating time .
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Correct
@MrTechnicalRehan
@MrTechnicalRehan 4 жыл бұрын
Good information
@shashankkumar7770
@shashankkumar7770 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video sir...please make videos on DC system
@mitulkulshrestha8067
@mitulkulshrestha8067 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@updates2164
@updates2164 4 жыл бұрын
nice video
@saksham9180
@saksham9180 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Explanation.
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
I have another video of relay co ordination. You can check that also
@saksham9180
@saksham9180 5 жыл бұрын
@@electricaltechnologyandind5335 I already found that. Thank you
@nkvaishnav6395
@nkvaishnav6395 Ай бұрын
Very informative..but i think 51(2.5 mva 6.6kv side) relay setting above 1sec and after that 1.25sec,1.5sec,1.75sec so on..
@stalindevakumar4697
@stalindevakumar4697 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sir. Thanks for this video and the good explanation. What about the coordination between the motor feeder and bus coupler at PCC/PMCC? The motor feeder is 0.05 sec and the bus coupler is 0.75 sec?
@oguzgurler8856
@oguzgurler8856 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, how do we determine the time of the relay for transformer protection which has both 50 and 51? Should we consider the time delay of 51 as we do for 50 i.e. 0.05 sec. in the same relay?
@owinookello9358
@owinookello9358 2 жыл бұрын
kindly sir make a full video on a cement plant strarting from a substation 132kv to 6.6kv to panels and pmcc 415v and mcc 415
@ekosan991
@ekosan991 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible explanation. Please make the next video about differential protection setting
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
Yes i will make. Please give me some time
@durangi3716
@durangi3716 5 жыл бұрын
very helpful!
@shubhchaudhari487
@shubhchaudhari487 4 жыл бұрын
Sir nowdays numerical relay come with both 50/51 protection in a single module... So if I use this module at MCC incomer level... How can we choose our desired protection, can we set these relay protection mode (50 OR 51) accordingly??
@shameer2880
@shameer2880 4 жыл бұрын
Sir... in addition if u select .05 sec at hv side of transformer for 50....then how 51 will coordinate with transformer lv side 51 which selected with 1 sec.
@ashishmahajan7223
@ashishmahajan7223 4 жыл бұрын
Sir,the video was really good but i have one doubt as below: Why did we select the time as 0.25sec. After selecting 1sec. In the previous bus? Shouldn't we select 1.25 sec and then in increasing order?
@shameer2880
@shameer2880 4 жыл бұрын
Sir.....u have not mentioned the earth fault coordinations and what about 51NS...
@shaikkhaja2821
@shaikkhaja2821 5 жыл бұрын
Sir can make videos for difference between DMT &IDMT
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
Dt is definite time relay. That means you have a pickup current set point and a definite operating time. So if the fault current crosses the set pick up the relay will trip as per the time setting. Suppose you have set a relay to pick up at 10A, with a delay of 0.05 sec. So if fault current goes beyond 10 A, may be 12, may be 15 or 50 the relay will operate at 0.05 sec. Where as idmt relay will take less time to operate if fault current is higher. Please see my different idmt characteristics video. Where better explanation has been given
@shubhchaudhari487
@shubhchaudhari487 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sir... Most practical content is ever seen !! Sir as you said in video at end feeder (motor) we used instantaneous relay and at upstream time delay relay are preferred but generally we don't provide numerical relay to low rated motor feeder. So can we provide instantaneous relay at MCC incomer level (considering it as a end point in system) ??
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 4 жыл бұрын
For low end motor mccb is considered, which acts as instantaneous relay during high fault current. Mcc incomer is not an end point system because there is motor downstream. So you need to co ordinate with the motor feeder and also with the bus coupler....
@Moon3pell
@Moon3pell 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched your overcurrent settings practice. The last feeder to motor has instantaneous element which is fine. Now the bus tie has no instantaneous element and the incomer to bus tie board has not instantaneous as well. Why? Why a main should not have instantaneous element ?
@MuhammadAhmed-vm9uw
@MuhammadAhmed-vm9uw 5 жыл бұрын
Hi sir, Can you kindly tell, why did you select 0.25 s delay for each relay? And is 60ms is tripping time of Air circuit breaker ? Because we assign a min time delay to tail end relay and then calculate tripping time of each upstream relay ? Why did you not used calculation method? Thanks!
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
discrimination time of 25 msec is a standard practice. and 60 msec is the time for breaker contact separation.
@anshulthakur2033
@anshulthakur2033 3 жыл бұрын
I've a doubt. if there is a fault and 415V incomer relay fails to operate then in that case, transformer incomer 66kv should operate. But here TMS for incomer 66KV is greater compared to outgoing 66 KV from 132/66KV. Then instead of 66/.433KV the relay at 132/66KV shall operate. Please explain.
@madhuvimal88
@madhuvimal88 2 жыл бұрын
Sir... U select the protection, 50 and 50N as an only in end of feeder or starting of new leval voltage like Motor and transformer HV side.. Time discrimination will give to 50 protection.. Example motor is 0.7 pickup Time dial is 0.05 The up stream is 0.220 ms... Here if we are not using 50 protections... How to give time discrimination.. (U said taht 51 to 51...time discrimination..)
@dheerajyadav9941
@dheerajyadav9941 4 жыл бұрын
Sir pls make video on short circuit calculation
@himanshu2232
@himanshu2232 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for nice vedio .Sir would u please upload the SLD of substations132kv/33kv and explain it.?
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
Sld varies as per requirement. There is nothing fixed rule
@shaikkhaja2821
@shaikkhaja2821 5 жыл бұрын
sir thanks for good information i think you know about siprotech relay can you make video on that how we set the setting of overcurrent, earth fault,over voltage, under voltage settings.
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
There are so many things. Okay, I shall keep in mind
@Anto_2020
@Anto_2020 5 жыл бұрын
If we use instantaneous relay for motor protection, during startup the motor starting current will be 7 times of full load current. By the time 50,50N will always trip due to over current.... Hence I thought 51 to be considered for load end feeders (motor feeders). Please explain
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
i have a video on motor characteristics and Protection, watch that. 50N won't pick up as its input CT s are connected residually. So if there is balanced current the ct will give zero current. for that i have another video ct connection for earth fault detection. watch that too... you confusions will be cleared
@girish1821
@girish1821 5 жыл бұрын
Why 51 is not used for 132Kv side for co-ordination??
@akshaypatel9997
@akshaypatel9997 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome sir, Request to make video on REF. Relay.
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
Already there... Please check my all videos. Especially the protection playlist. Thank you..
@krishnateluganti3312
@krishnateluganti3312 5 жыл бұрын
Sir, please post a video on relay settings
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
there are so many... watch my Protection series
@ranjan1436
@ranjan1436 5 жыл бұрын
please explain it with an example & coordination graph.
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
I have recently uploaded a video.. watch that fully. You will get your answer😊
@dwaramaswani2608
@dwaramaswani2608 5 жыл бұрын
Sir what is relay pickup time
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
There is nothing called relay pick up time. The term is pick up current. If current through relay crosses the set value then the relay picks up. And as per its setting it trips after the calculated time
@dwaramaswani2608
@dwaramaswani2608 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir thank you
@dwaramaswani2608
@dwaramaswani2608 5 жыл бұрын
Sir please make a video on relay pick up current in stage wise
@farooqalihyder
@farooqalihyder 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@عليالحارثي-ز8ظ
@عليالحارثي-ز8ظ 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@manojshukla3598
@manojshukla3598 5 жыл бұрын
Sir explain about PSM and tsm
@electricaltechnologyandind5335
@electricaltechnologyandind5335 5 жыл бұрын
Please see idmt relay settings video...
@sudhirkumar-sv5yl
@sudhirkumar-sv5yl 4 жыл бұрын
Why calculate fault current
@devmahour1874
@devmahour1874 2 жыл бұрын
Sir hindi me video bnao plz
@gyanaranjannayak4718
@gyanaranjannayak4718 2 жыл бұрын
Please speak in Hindi with loudly
@owinookello9358
@owinookello9358 2 жыл бұрын
i really 💕 your videos salute you am in kenya sir Keep up
@lokeshchandra-jl4wn
@lokeshchandra-jl4wn 2 ай бұрын
very nicely explained
@owinookello9358
@owinookello9358 2 жыл бұрын
kindly sir make a full video on a cement plant strarting from a substation 132kv to 6.6kv to panels and pmcc 415v and mcc 415
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