UGLY Ford Lightning Harley Davidson 5.4L Supercharged V8 Engine Teardown

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@hydrocarbon82
@hydrocarbon82 10 ай бұрын
I have a pristine HD Ford Lightning I want to get rid of...unfortunately I *ONLY* accept payment in used timing guides and used water pumps. What tragic irony!
@ryanbrochu3336
@ryanbrochu3336 10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@superdidly1
@superdidly1 10 ай бұрын
Just asking, how many guides and pumps will get a swap.
@CosRacecar
@CosRacecar 10 ай бұрын
@@superdidly1 More than you can afford pal.
@stephenw2992
@stephenw2992 10 ай бұрын
I think he knows someone with a timing chain fetish who will do him a deal.
@Me-zo8yc
@Me-zo8yc 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@johngassmann9581
@johngassmann9581 10 ай бұрын
Nothing says reliable and professional like taking someone's money, then telling them they have to pay more to get what they actually paid for.
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 10 ай бұрын
Won't mention "unknown condition" well they drained the oil, they new it was FUCKED!
@Currawong
@Currawong 10 ай бұрын
He should have said, straight after they told him it wasn't complete, that he wanted a refund.
@stephenw2992
@stephenw2992 10 ай бұрын
@@Currawong He will do alright out of it because of the video, but anyone else should take that path with people like that.
@mikegirard4388
@mikegirard4388 10 ай бұрын
I thought only the 4.6L engines shot out plugs. Guess Ford made that a special feature on most of their V8s.
@george2113
@george2113 10 ай бұрын
​@@GeneCash but they will continue to screw customers over if not named! Companies don't improve unless they feel pain
@volktales7005
@volktales7005 10 ай бұрын
The only vehicle my Dad ever bought new was his 2000 Harley Davidson Ford truck. This was the first year for the special model and was loaded with goodies including two bed covers (hard and soft), and even dealer stuff like Harley branded insulated bottles, special floor mats, etc. Dad loved that truck and kept every document that came with it. Dad's gone now, but that truck is still sitting in his garage with only 105,000 km on it (Canadian truck). Mom won't sell as she loves it too and takes it out for an occasional cruise...
@zedlips
@zedlips 10 ай бұрын
I had a 200 f150 5.4l, I liked it, not as much as my 2016 with the 2.7 eco.
@Jimmythefish577
@Jimmythefish577 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic pity post, honestly one of the best I’ve read today….
@4x4play4
@4x4play4 15 күн бұрын
they were all built in canada.
@smc4229
@smc4229 10 ай бұрын
The "penetrator" gag is so consistent, every video and I appreciate it
@Me-zo8yc
@Me-zo8yc 10 ай бұрын
Gets me every time 😂
@nowiecoche
@nowiecoche 10 ай бұрын
When did the gag start? Next I noticed, he was saying “penetrator” weird and I was laughing.
@Me-zo8yc
@Me-zo8yc 10 ай бұрын
@@nowiecoche You mean 𝗣𝗘𝗡𝗘𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗧𝗢𝗥 😆
@mentorofarisia371
@mentorofarisia371 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice to never use tap water in the cooling system. But I never use tap water. Who would? I use the garden hose.
@portersorensen8814
@portersorensen8814 10 ай бұрын
😂 never have I ever
@darrellbobyk6363
@darrellbobyk6363 10 ай бұрын
I collect and use water from a `barrel`.(soft or rain water). Best water besides deionized that you can use.
@franciscooper.retired
@franciscooper.retired 10 ай бұрын
Dooohhh!
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 10 ай бұрын
​@@darrellbobyk6363distilled......
@Markworth
@Markworth 10 ай бұрын
I have never in my life been so broke that I ran straight water in a car. Coolant isn't expensive. Y'alls cheap AF.
@245bryce
@245bryce 10 ай бұрын
I WONT RESPOND! (I might respond) 😂
@MERKAMGCLK
@MERKAMGCLK 10 ай бұрын
Eric will buy one!😂
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 10 ай бұрын
Just like my car dealer when I say "I'm not paying above sticker".
@PresidentSkroob12345
@PresidentSkroob12345 10 ай бұрын
I expected him to say "Please don't email me because then I'll end up buying another car"
@dans_Learning_Curve
@dans_Learning_Curve 10 ай бұрын
​@@PresidentSkroob12345 isn't that basically what he said? 🤔
@emilschw8924
@emilschw8924 10 ай бұрын
Love the water pump skits!!! 😂😂😂
@moontoon28
@moontoon28 10 ай бұрын
You kill me with this running water pump gag lmao
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 10 ай бұрын
I’m a big fan of the 2V Ford Modular engines. I used to work for the state motor pool, where I worked on (among other things) state trooper cars and police academy cars, which were all Crown Vics at the time (Chargers were just showing up when I left). The cars themselves were not great, but the 4.6s (which is just a small version of the 5.4) never broke. The police did every thing they could to break them, including ridiculous amounts of idling, thrashing them during chases, overheating them (because the electric cooling fans would fail), etc. They never break. The only one that I ever had to replace has due to the trooper hitting a boulder in the road and driving until it stopped (they also managed to wipe out the transmission). Even the police academy cars, which spent their lives being thrashed by cadets around the track, the engines never failed. Yes, they had issues (like blowing out spark plugs, usually after someone replaced them without using a torque wrench), breaking exhaust manifold studs, breaking the intake manifold on those with the plastic cooling passage, etc, but the engine itself is solid. The rest of the car…that’s a different story…
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 10 ай бұрын
What breaks on the car? The suspension on 03+ is solid. Ball joints on -02 and axle seals and ?
@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM
@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM 10 ай бұрын
Of course they don't break, it's like a 7.3 it doesn't make enough power to break itself. I personally don't like modular, it's all the performance of a v6 with all the consumption of a v8. They where designed from the learnings of the 427 cammer and should have been excellent modern powerhouse, ford engineered it for FWD layouts like GMs NorthStar, but unlike GM, ford completely banked on a fundamentally flawed engine. And even now ford is stuck with 5.0 because the modular architecture can't be made bigger without adding cylinders. It's not a good engine when you consider all the other engines available, and even the ones out going like the SBF series. If you want a good small displacement, economy v8 the best one was AMCs 4.7 powertech, ignoring Mopar quality issues, that's an excellent engine design. Simple things like shortening the chain lengths by having an intermediate chain made sure they never had timing issues (unlike the modular)
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 10 ай бұрын
@@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM they are stuck with a 5.0 but are mopping the floor on LS's...... Yeah the 4.6 was under powered, they need boost. I have no idea where you get the idea of it being engineered for FWD, there's literally only ONE fwd variant....... For how big the Panthers are, they achieve decent economy, wasn't uncommon to average 20-22..... v6 are inefficient and 💩! Modular engines are reliable workhorses, where they shine is torque. The biggest downfall of pre coyotes was the lack of aftermarket support. The LS is so popular for one reason, because they fucking fit!
@Sshtb0x_cars
@Sshtb0x_cars 10 ай бұрын
​@@commonsenseisdeadin2024accurate. 5.4 peak torque is so much better than the GM v8s of that era.
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 10 ай бұрын
@@Sshtb0x_cars you mean has more low end torque. "peak torque" isn't telling us much, more doesn't exactly mean better universally, low end torque is where trucks greatly benefit. Having more low end torque means that it produces usable torque longer before falling off. Horsepower and torque are 2 different things but made to scale the same (that's why at 5200rpm they cross, because there needs to be a constant to reference. Same as acceleration and speed, ones a force of pressure while the others a distance over time. More acceleration doesn't mean more speed. More torque doesn't tell us more horsepower (for instance, Diesel!)
@levicharles996
@levicharles996 10 ай бұрын
That “I’m a big fan of that tool” got me when he was taking the fan clutch off haha 😂
@SteelOfLegend
@SteelOfLegend 10 ай бұрын
His dad jokes are fantastic. He is fantastic. Honestly, good clean humor is sometimes the best humor.
@tonyloc2788
@tonyloc2788 5 ай бұрын
@@SteelOfLegend Love Eric's video's and agree his humor is spot on, he kinda reminds me of Adam Sandler...😆
@wwjoshdew
@wwjoshdew 10 ай бұрын
oh man. It's only been 2 thousand miles since changing my oil (pennzoil ultra platinum) and this video makes me want to change it RIGHT NOW!!!
@harrywalker968
@harrywalker968 10 ай бұрын
sht oil doesnt last as long as good oil.. never exceeeeeeeeedd changes.. had a bronco, 82, on lpg from when i bought it 15 yrs ago,, 351c, running on 6, so fitted 302c heads, 12.1 comp.. changed oil rufly every 3 months regardless, 20/50 , never an issue, blew 2 ignotion coils, oil pump needed replacing.. reliable as a rock..scary fast for a 3t truck..
@javaguru7141
@javaguru7141 10 ай бұрын
7-8k intervals are absolutely fine with good oil and a good filter unless your engine is known to roast its oil especially hard such as having a poorly-cooled turbo (I run 7k on my Volvo with its baby turbo)
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 3 ай бұрын
​@@harrywalker968LPG burns ridiculously cleanly. I have seen service books from the ealry 1980s recommending oil changes every 500 hours/15,000 miles on LPG vehicles, and that was with poor quality early 1980s engine oil.
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking the Harley Davidson edition was just a trim and paint package, you learn unuseful things every day! 🎉😂
@Cuhh346
@Cuhh346 10 ай бұрын
Not all of them were supercharged
@FixingWithFriends
@FixingWithFriends 10 ай бұрын
@@Cuhh346 Yeah seeing the supercharger was a surprise to me. ...Though I think roots superchargers are a waste of metal. (as the twin screw and modern Whipple designs are vastly superior).
@nos1000100
@nos1000100 10 ай бұрын
Only a few were supercharged. For the most part, it was just an appearance package
@wyattgardner3552
@wyattgardner3552 10 ай бұрын
2011/2012 had 6.2L and I believe it could be supercharged. Not sure if factory or Roush did it.
@JohnnyReb2000
@JohnnyReb2000 10 ай бұрын
To my understanding, the 2001 Harley Davidson edition just had a naturally aspirated 5.4 while the 02-03's were supercharged (at least for the 10th gen body style). Can't say for sure about the 11th gen Harley Davidson's.
@mahcooharper9577
@mahcooharper9577 10 ай бұрын
When the inside of your cooling system is Lamborghini orange, you know you've made bad life choices.
@Shannon-Smith
@Shannon-Smith 10 ай бұрын
Lols - man, I never seem to get away from you!
@allisonelkins1662
@allisonelkins1662 10 ай бұрын
Man, you would've loved the dd13 I tore apart today!😂 At least this engine turns over
@ybomcheese
@ybomcheese 10 ай бұрын
Owned a 2000 Ford Excursion with 6.8 Triton (v10). Tritons from 2000-2003 only had 4 threads holding spark plugs in. Towed a rv 1000 miles from home then got 2 spark plug blowouts. Followed the repair procedures from Ford Makuloco, and used Cal-Van inserts. Spent two days trying to remove metal shavings from two cylinders. I thought I got all of it. Not so much. After reassembly is when the problems really escalated. Instantly had low compression and oil burn with multiple misfire codes. Used one qt of oil and one spark plug every 100 miles. So much oil in cylinder it burned electrode and strap clean off. Turns out introducing aluminum shavings into two cylinders is not so good. Finally got a borescope sent to me and discovered major scoring on cylinder walls. It would run but no way pulling an rv. Drove around in 3rd gear just to keep rpm’s in a happy range the engine liked. Otherwise to engine would try to shake itself apart. Tried for 7 weeks in a campground 40 miles from nowhere to resolve situation but finally gave up and sold it as a mechanic special. Had to buy another tow rig to get home. This story is much longer than stated here but you get the picture. If you own on of these they are ticking time bombs- YOU’VE BEEN WARNED
@mikerhodeback9636
@mikerhodeback9636 10 ай бұрын
Not really...use good plugs and rarely occurs and a quality repair results in no damage ( other than the coil pack), sorry for your outcome
@Mpkauto
@Mpkauto 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I have a 5.4 and I did my plugs years ago, use a torque wrench and go to 25 instead of the 18 ftlb factory recommends and I've never had any problems, including towing a 6 ton rv. 180k and burns no oil, runs awesome
@johnjunge6989
@johnjunge6989 10 ай бұрын
After talking to 5 mechanics I knew at Ford dealers, I decided to look for my new F150 with a 5.0L - so glad I did. It was my semi retirement present to myself in 2014. While everyone I 12:51 worked with got EcoBoost engines. I get 22-25 mph and perrs like a kitten. So glad I did! 😊
@ryanbrochu3336
@ryanbrochu3336 10 ай бұрын
22-25 miles per hour? Isn't that kinda slow? 😁😁
@MisterFribble
@MisterFribble 10 ай бұрын
Have you considered getting the FP700 kit? The warrantied supercharger that gives you 700 hp lol
@zakn3954
@zakn3954 10 ай бұрын
You talked to 5 Ford mechanics and still bought a Ford? Why didn't you listen to any of them?
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 10 ай бұрын
Ford ruined the 5.0 in 2017 by eliminating the steel cylinder liners and spraying the aluminum bores with their version of Nicasil. Now they are oil burning pigs that Ford is being sued over. It’s so widespread that one cylinder liner manufacturer is making a kit for the 5.0 to retrofit them with steel liners.
@user-kq7gi7eh1s
@user-kq7gi7eh1s 10 ай бұрын
@@zakn3954 🤣🤣
@MrMartello5
@MrMartello5 10 ай бұрын
That salvage yard did you dirty. I had the pleasure of following a Harley Davidson truck the other day. Every time they hit the gas there was black smoke blowing out the tail pipes. I doubt they were rolling coal.
@artmchugh5644
@artmchugh5644 10 ай бұрын
I had the displeasure of following a harley davidson motorcycle and every time he hit the gas , my eardrum got destroyed by the racket from his chrome air compressor 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@frjhracing
@frjhracing 10 ай бұрын
Most probable thing that wrote this off was the tap water leading to the failure of the seal for the coolant crossover passage - found right next to the intake ports on the rear and front most of the heads. IDK how it is with the SC application but the crossover either leaks into the manifold or the front most port. It then gets missdaiged as a headgasket (hence the orange all in the combustion chambers). coolant basically gets sent right into the intake ports. btw that most likely has the more desirable "PI" heads, casting stamp on the rear
@JohnnyReb2000
@JohnnyReb2000 10 ай бұрын
PI heads started in 1999 for the 5.4, so you'd be correct on that assumption. As for the coolant crossover theory, I do concur with that as a possibility. I will say that the coolant crossover leak is a bigger problem with the naturally aspirated 5.4's that got plastic intake manifolds starting in 2000. Happened to me with my 01, but I was fortunate enough to catch it before it became big enough to dump coolant into the intake and/or spark plug wells. Replaced that manifold with an aluminum one off a 99 5.4.
@LtJerryRigg
@LtJerryRigg 10 ай бұрын
I just finished rebuilding one of these for a customer. From an 03. Supercharger was cooked, timing chain guides broken, strectched chain, worn sprockets, ate part of the oil pump. Wrecked camshafts, at least the journal parts. Two spun rod bearings, #8 minutes away from chucking a rod through the block. Parts were tough to find for it making the build challenging. The heads are PI flavour, I dont think specific to the lightning but still seem to have value used. They are in way better shape than the ones we reused
@iainball2023
@iainball2023 10 ай бұрын
The orange in the combustion Chambers is from someone using lots of octane booster. If you use enough of it, it will start to short the plugs out and misfire under load. Ask me how I know 😅
@guthrie_1
@guthrie_1 10 ай бұрын
@@iainball2023 I used octane booster one time in my boosted F150 because I detected some knock and didn’t trust the 93 pump gas I filled up with. Half a can turned the plugs orange. Never again. If I had cats you could imagine what it would do to them.
@neilwalker8686
@neilwalker8686 10 ай бұрын
The orange on the valves is octane booster.
@NDZ12345
@NDZ12345 10 ай бұрын
Agreed! Same with the orange residue on the plugs I believe
@Abzocold
@Abzocold 6 ай бұрын
Yup, probably Boostane or Octanium. Using it now and then for hero runs on the dyno or track, that's fine. If you're running so much of it that your plugs are getting gunked up with the residue then you really should just make the mods necessary to run E85. The odd thing here is that I've no idea why anyone would need to run octane booster on a stock engine with no mods. And if you can afford all that octane booster, why would you skip oil changes?
@elektrosmokes1911
@elektrosmokes1911 2 ай бұрын
Yes. Typical MMT stains.
@JacobTemple_CE
@JacobTemple_CE 11 сағат бұрын
100%
@daytrypper
@daytrypper 10 ай бұрын
"My, what a big fan you have!" 😁 Another great teardown. Thanks Eric!
@lordcorgi6481
@lordcorgi6481 10 ай бұрын
It always amazes me how people can mistreat one of the largest purchases they'll make in thier lives
@nigelalderman9178
@nigelalderman9178 10 ай бұрын
yeah you should see their houses and wives!
@t-yoonit
@t-yoonit 10 ай бұрын
For them it's just a tool to get from a-b. At most, it gets washed regularly to appear nice, but that's about it.
@MaddJakd
@MaddJakd 10 ай бұрын
I'm certainly not one to live by the "money spent" aspect..... but good grief, those who do could think I do. There's are a few proper things one should follow with cars. Proper fluids in something built after the 80s being one of them
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 10 ай бұрын
Many people have more money than brains. 🤷
@richieschmidt6225
@richieschmidt6225 10 ай бұрын
They’ll just finance another $1k/month payment.
@michaelbwbrenner
@michaelbwbrenner 10 ай бұрын
I watch almost all of your videos in the last few years @I_Do_Cars Although I rarely leave comments, I must! I want to commend the progression of your videos in the last few years: editing, suspect comments during video ;) ASMR clicks, use of Blue, malice in the combustion palace analysis, and finally the throwing of 'good' parts into the bin. LOVE IT, please keep going, your videos are awesome and informative. Cheers!
@brucemacrobbie5527
@brucemacrobbie5527 10 ай бұрын
"Zip off the manifold nuts". You crack me up.
@user-kq7gi7eh1s
@user-kq7gi7eh1s 10 ай бұрын
I currently have the same truck ! 2002 Harley Davidson edition with 132000 miles. I love my truck, still get compliments every time I drive her.
@jeffmiller3150
@jeffmiller3150 10 ай бұрын
I have a 02 F150 H-D, 470,000 miles, 22 years old, mostly original. Changed timing chains and oil pump at 397,000 miles due to glue from the oil filter blocking an oil passage on the right head. Still runs great!!
@scottmortland7255
@scottmortland7255 10 ай бұрын
The problem with these trucks, along with the Mustang Cobras, is that they were cheap used. So people bought them that couldn’t afford the on-time Earl changes, the coolant flushes, and the premium fuel that these required. And they got beat on. Poor things.
@CaptainSpadaro
@CaptainSpadaro 10 ай бұрын
Didn't the Coyote slightly diminish the value of the Termis? I know they were holding their value when the S197 came out.
@InvertOtaku-os9lj
@InvertOtaku-os9lj 10 ай бұрын
> Earl changes Lmfao 🤣
@billwall6271
@billwall6271 10 ай бұрын
So that's where the 10mm socket is at!!
@scotthassett2676
@scotthassett2676 10 ай бұрын
was it a 10.. ok it is always a 10
@crsc1033
@crsc1033 10 ай бұрын
I am about 98% sure I have watched your complete collection and I really want many many more engine tear downs in the future. Seriously can I ship you eye protection? I would feel soooo much more comfortable watching at least one video with you sporting some. I started watching your content with a base knowledge of internal combustion engines as both diddly and squat. Today I am a faithful practitioner of following routine maintenance and fluid change intervals. I may not know tons more but, the picture lessons have been hammered home. Thank you!!
@mathuetax
@mathuetax 10 ай бұрын
I had a battery explode on me back ages ago when I wrenched. It sent parts of the case into my hands, arms and face, bathed me in acid and caused temporary deafness. I genuinely feel I would have had a serious eye injury from it but I was wearing a nice set of UVEX Astrospec 3000. I always wear my glasses.
@chrisbrown3925
@chrisbrown3925 10 ай бұрын
Safety tote!
@nowiecoche
@nowiecoche 10 ай бұрын
Send him the best one regardless. I think Eric will find use for it.
@hdz12ez
@hdz12ez 10 ай бұрын
Looks like someone was running RaceGas brand octane additive in the fuel. That's exactly how my 2.7 Ecoboost looked when I ran that stuff. I forget which ingredient leaves that orange residue on the valves, Magnese maybe? Anyway, I ended up burning up an exhaust valve (tune was a bit too aggressive) and the mechanic showed me pictures and asked me what the orange color was all about, and I told him it was from the additive. My plugs were orange too.
@christinesommerfeld9815
@christinesommerfeld9815 10 ай бұрын
How much horsepower did you end up at before your 2.7 died? I like that engine.
@hdz12ez
@hdz12ez 10 ай бұрын
I never had it on a dyno but if I had to guess I would say it added somewhere around 100 hp. It was a 100 octane tune in a 2016 2wd regular cab short bed F150. That little sucker hauled ass before it's early demise.
@extracrazyguy
@extracrazyguy 10 ай бұрын
It was refreshing to see the loving care you gave to the heavily abused water pump .. knowing full well that its days were filled with abuse and neglect up to that day when you rescued it from its life of abject torture. Very wholesome!!
@troy3052
@troy3052 10 ай бұрын
Wow almost 300,000 subscribers impressive!! I remember congratulating you at 50,000. Good job, and don't change a thing!!!
@hokie9910
@hokie9910 10 ай бұрын
He is so undersubscribed…once people find out about this channel he will one day hit a million I am sure!
@ScottJ175
@ScottJ175 10 ай бұрын
A bit late in the season for pumpkin spice coolant.
@mag2395
@mag2395 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if anyone walks in when you have the box on your head by yourself, and just turns right around 😂
@AP3D
@AP3D 10 ай бұрын
The orange on the plugs and valves is probably MMT from an octane booster
@harrywalker968
@harrywalker968 10 ай бұрын
no.. useing water,, not coolant.. more owners a car gets,,the less maintenance..
@AP3D
@AP3D 10 ай бұрын
​@@harrywalker968 The orange in the combustion chamber is not related to the orange in the coolant passages.
@TracyCorbett
@TracyCorbett 10 ай бұрын
​@@AP3D Didn't these have an issue with a coolant crossover pipe & gasket that could end up leaking coolant into the intake and/or down into the spark plug wells? That would explain all that corrosion in the plug wells also...
@zf9903
@zf9903 10 ай бұрын
Wow, I never knew Harley Davidson edition trucks were anything other than an appearance package. I guess I never bothered to check, I’ve heard about them in passing a surprising number of times over the years. This is probably why…
@ShadowOppsRC
@ShadowOppsRC 10 ай бұрын
I know the super duties were just a styling package for the Harley Editions.
@TheRealCaptainKlutz
@TheRealCaptainKlutz 10 ай бұрын
It was only those two years, every other HD ford 0(f150, f350) was, as you assumed, strictly an appearance pkg.
@245bryce
@245bryce 10 ай бұрын
I only knew this recently as well when Doug reviewed one. I thought it was an appearance package as well.
@watrousmark401
@watrousmark401 10 ай бұрын
A few of the F250s were diesel.
@williammeszaros3382
@williammeszaros3382 10 ай бұрын
The difference between a Harley Davidson bike and the truck is the dirtbag is outside on the bike....
@ProjectFairmont
@ProjectFairmont 10 ай бұрын
Had an ‘04 Lightning. Tough as nails, if you maintain it.
@u.e.u.e.
@u.e.u.e. 10 ай бұрын
4:51 Are you sure about the rust? Could also be MMT as it is on the ceramic insulator, too. P.S.: the orange/beige exhaust valves of the left bank confirm MMT or leaded fuel. Did you see the almost closed passage ways for oil and water in the left head gasket?
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x 10 ай бұрын
Not only was it lacking for some oil changes but also running water for coolant is a bad idea, the water passages are at least partially plugged also which means the engine probably ran hot in summers, probably never had the cooling system flushed. Looked like the oil rings were coked up and locked into the piston grooves so it was probably an oil burner. Oil filter element turning to plastic so the filter was probably bypassing dirty oil.
@56RobertG
@56RobertG 10 ай бұрын
I had an ‘01 5.4 and I knew better than to change the plugs myself. My mechanic kept it for six days. Soaked it with penetrant for three days before even trying to pull the plugs out. Those aluminum heads were a heck of a mess. Keep it up. Your show is the best. Makes me wish I lived close to St Louis. Good Luck!
@harrywalker968
@harrywalker968 10 ай бұрын
mate had a jag,4 door. wanted to fit a dodge 360, but no kits,,so took his eyes & brain out,, fitted an 010 block speed shop everything, chev.. 350 chunk.. some bisy body, dobed him in, so, 5 yrs later, re fitted the 6 cyl jag engine, drove to police for a check, . nothing wrong with it.. real alloy, not junk pig iron crap.. engines now are built to fail.. seems a waste of tech,,.
@Sheehy223
@Sheehy223 10 ай бұрын
​@@harrywalker968 Are you ok?
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 10 ай бұрын
​@@harrywalker968what?
@daved3948
@daved3948 10 ай бұрын
@@Sheehy223😂😂😂
@desertbob6835
@desertbob6835 2 ай бұрын
​@@Sheehy223He's quite fine, bring British and all.
@sdrape4964
@sdrape4964 10 ай бұрын
Yes! The highlight of my Saturday nights!
@FMCguy
@FMCguy 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Im pretty sure the orange color in the combustion chamber and plugs is from an octane booster fuel additive. From what ive seen. 👍
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 10 ай бұрын
If you’re the proud owner of a 5.4 the best advice I could give you is don’t skimp on oil changes and use the best quality oil that you can afford. I’ve seen numerous 2-valve versions run past 200K but all had impeccable maintenance histories. Our shop has a plumbing company that has four F-350 service trucks that haul thousands of pounds of pipes,fittings etc and they’re all well over 200K miles now. None have had any internal engine repairs yet. Exhaust studs yes but nothing else. The owner has had them since new and he never postpones critical maintenance like oil changes. Personally I don’t really like them because they are quite a bit more difficult to repair than a 6.0 LS but they can definitely deliver a lot of service if they’re well cared for.
@guyina4x499
@guyina4x499 10 ай бұрын
My 03 went 393k on motorcraft semi synthetic every 5k miles. Still ran great but frame was gone.
@JROC734
@JROC734 10 ай бұрын
My 03 Lightning has been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. The only one I've had with comparable reliability was a 93 Civic DX with a 1.5L non-VTEC engine. I've had good luck with GEN3 SBC engines, but in 210K miles my Lightning through a P0125 code, that ended up being a bad thermostat, and had a noisy idler pulley bearing, but that's about it as far as issues it's caused me. When people ask, "how do I make my GEN2 Lightnings factory engine last a long time I say, "keep up with standard maintenance, stay with a stock pulley setup, be careful tightening the spark plugs." Not hard to do for anyone with decent mechanic skills. Tighten them down to where they won't back out, but don't wrench down on them. Quality oil is beneficial for any engine, not just Modulars. In fact I'd argue that good oil, that's kept clean with frequent oil changes is more important for a DOD equipped SBC than any other modern series of V8 engines I know of. Use an oil that's DEXOS approved BTW. I've found that all my Modular engine vehicles (99 GT, 03 Cobra, 03 Lightning) have been extremely reliable, with the worst issue being the composite manifold cracking at the thermostat housing on the 99 GT. When people say that 5.4L is unreliable I think oftentimes they base that on a stereotype or narrative. Yes the unusual bore and stroke could make you think unreliable, and the 3V engines gave them a bad reputation, but overall a 2V/4V 5.4L that's maintained properly is a very reliable engine. Hell my parents even own a 08 f150 with a 5.4L 3V with over 320K miles, and it runs smoother than my GEN3 Coyote truck. One thing the 3V's did do very well was they were very smooth and refined running engines, even compared to a modern Coyote. Too bad their cam phasers, and funky spark plugs gave them a bad reputation.
@JROC734
@JROC734 10 ай бұрын
GEN2 Lightnings 5.4L uses the same 2V PI heads found in every other 2V 4.6L/5.4L made from 99 and newer. While they flow the same some heads are Windsors and some Romeos, and if I remember correctly their are some differences. I believe the cam retainers are different, and maybe the valve cover pattern. Also I thing the Windsor and Romeo timing cover bolt setup might be different as well, but I cant remember these things for sure. The later heads (around mid-03, and definitly 04) got the 8 threads instead of the 4 threaded heads. GEN2 Lightning engines are all Windsors I believe.
@maxbell6237
@maxbell6237 10 ай бұрын
What size socket was in that intake port?? Was it the 10mm!? Don’t leave us hanging!! 😂
@eduards1328
@eduards1328 10 ай бұрын
I was going to ask the same question. We need to know.
@Drmcclung
@Drmcclung 10 ай бұрын
Tap water in the cooling system is one of my biggest pet peeves. Right up there with running 0w16 in older 10w30/40 rated engines because some dumbass thinks he'll save gas since everyone on the Internet says light oil is the new be-all end-all hotness way forward.. They at least got the end all part right!
@mandmwaddle
@mandmwaddle 10 ай бұрын
One day I expect a funeral service to happen for a water pump. Every time I see a water pump get thrown across the shop I laugh. The bad pumps getting treated with care is just as funny. These videos are really fun to watch and I end up learning something everytime.
@universalhead
@universalhead 10 ай бұрын
Good work , I read in the Sean hyland book that you should never take the plugs out of a hot engine on those type heads. When hot a little minuscule amount of aluminum is removed from the plug hole threads by the spark plugs and causes bad things over time. Remove on cold engine only, keeps the threads to spec.
@thomasfletcher760
@thomasfletcher760 10 ай бұрын
I lost it when you gently wrapped the water pump in a rag and then placed it in the truck and belted it in 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@edbaczewski2959
@edbaczewski2959 10 ай бұрын
Eric did that out of respect for the water pump since it lived a neglected & abused life! 😂😂😂 Consider the water pump a "shelter" water pump! 😂😂😂
@randymonicalammi2320
@randymonicalammi2320 6 ай бұрын
That Baby needed a car seat.
@paulholm4827
@paulholm4827 10 ай бұрын
I really like watching Eric. I learn something and I always get a laugh.
@caseynewsom1850
@caseynewsom1850 10 ай бұрын
A+ harbor freight sockets. Genuinely the best when you have used them for a while and just look for the color. And cheap as hell
@derrickfettig9160
@derrickfettig9160 10 ай бұрын
Plus in this industry he is probably like me and loses more then he ever breaks.
@mphilleo
@mphilleo 10 ай бұрын
I was just saying this to my wife. I've had mine for the better part of a decade and they've held up to so much abuse.
@peterkang7640
@peterkang7640 10 ай бұрын
Honestly these 5.4 2V are great engines that can take abuse and known to last. It's about 95% same as a 4.6 2v engine in crown victoria police interceptors. This video truely impressed me about how much neglect the engine can take before it finally die.
@hokie9910
@hokie9910 10 ай бұрын
And now we have the junk Ford puts out. From the company who brought us the 302, 300, and the 2v modular engines which all could go a Rey long time with basic maintenance…to what we have today….ecoboosts and the 5.0 which they ruined with “special” coated cylinder liners staring in 2018. They really want these newer cars to die an early death.
@nathanmcdonald610
@nathanmcdonald610 9 ай бұрын
@@hokie9910 I'd hardly call the 5.0L junk. I own a F-150 FX4 Supercab 5.0L so it's doesn't have the coated cylinder liner, but it has given me zero issues in the nearly 13 years and 105K miles I've driven it. It has WAY more power than any standard 5.4L that it replaced and it gets better fuel mileage than any 4.6L out there.
@hokie9910
@hokie9910 9 ай бұрын
@@nathanmcdonald610 Like I said, the 5.0 before 2018 was a fine engine, but the ones after 2018…not so much.
@nickolaswilliams935
@nickolaswilliams935 10 ай бұрын
I’ve seen octane booster leave deposits like that, I read it’s caused by manganese additives
@johnt.848
@johnt.848 10 ай бұрын
I think it is more common to see carbon build up in engines that aren't driven hard. An Italian tune up might have cleaned that out.
@idonwantella2824
@idonwantella2824 10 ай бұрын
We love the blown out spark plug. As soon as you said 2 different plugs I knew. For those that have never experienced a plug blowout, it can be scary. I thought my engine exploded. BUT, it had 275K miles on it. After fixing it, I added 75k miles and then parked it in the garage where it has sat since 2012.
@danomite359
@danomite359 10 ай бұрын
I watch your videos, just in case i need to tear down an engine. Now the fact that I'm 69 and hate to get my 6'6" frame under a hood pretty much negates this ever happening, but I can still enjoy someone else doing it. LOL
@johnjunge6989
@johnjunge6989 10 ай бұрын
Went to Ranken in the 60's. Had a guy who's growth was stunted due to experimental medicine given him at birth. He was close to 5ft. All of his friends kidded him that when we worked on cars he was going to have problems. We were wrong. he use to sit on the inner fender and work on them. Today's cars, he'd have a real issue. As do people 6'6"! Atleast long arms are a plus!!
@erikroutson9306
@erikroutson9306 10 ай бұрын
Had a buddy with one back when they were new, that truck was sweet. And it hauled rear. I had an original '93 Lightning that was ridiculously fun for a naturally aspirated 351W. Wish I still had it. Great video!
@uknterror508
@uknterror508 10 ай бұрын
The orange spark plugs and valves tells me they ran some cheap "octane booster". I forget which brand(s) but a few of the octane boosters would make it look like you spilled cheeto dust inside the motor. Seems fitting for this since the coolant looks like it was filled with nacho cheese
@phoenixnfa
@phoenixnfa 10 ай бұрын
MTBE based octane booster does this. TORCO/VP do it. they arent cheap.
@timlee4204
@timlee4204 10 ай бұрын
Another great teardown Eric, been in hospital waiting for this one, thanks. That eerie yellow stuff, seems it is not only in the cooling system but in the fuel system as well, haven't ever seen anything like it in all my years dropping spanners around.
@09corvettezr1
@09corvettezr1 10 ай бұрын
I am also a big fan of the air hammer fan clutch tool.
@phoenixsmith6026
@phoenixsmith6026 10 ай бұрын
yes I see what you did there, still need blues help..blue the pry bar fan club
@09corvettezr1
@09corvettezr1 10 ай бұрын
@@phoenixsmith6026 puns aside they do work well.
@arvindsingh-qp7rg
@arvindsingh-qp7rg 10 ай бұрын
thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to entertain as with another great video
@9HighFlyer9
@9HighFlyer9 10 ай бұрын
I have a friend with one of these trucks. He has me do the maintenance/repairs on it because he doesn't trust any of the shops to do it. After 10 years I'm intimately familiar with every quirk, feature and problem (common and not) that these trucks have.
@Tea_1745
@Tea_1745 10 ай бұрын
Do tell please?
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 10 ай бұрын
​@@Tea_1745biggest problem is it says "Harley Davidson" all over it!
@encinobalboa
@encinobalboa 10 ай бұрын
Very smart. DIY is why I prefer RWD cars and trucks.
@Erik_Swiger
@Erik_Swiger 10 ай бұрын
You know what might be fun - scrape the gunk from the oil pan in an engine, put it in a glass jar with some solvent, then filter-out the metal bits, and show them to us. It's one thing to see the Forbidden Glitter oil, it's another thing to see an actual tablespoon of the metal that came out of the engine.
@silicon212
@silicon212 10 ай бұрын
That one bank of worn skirts remind me of a Chevy 350 I tore down back in 1988 - engine came from a 1974 Malibu wagon and the drivers bank (1-3-5-7) had significant ridging in the cylinders - lots of taper while the right bank had virtually no wear. I always wondered about that.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 10 ай бұрын
One possibility I was thinking of is that the crankshaft flings more oil into one bank than the other. But given they rotate anti-clockwise when viewed from the front, I would have thought that more oil would go to the left hand bank than the right, rather than the other way around.
@harrywalker968
@harrywalker968 10 ай бұрын
maybe you drive more right hand corners than left.. dont know,,keep asking.. same deck height, same head gasket, same tourque,.?..
@silicon212
@silicon212 10 ай бұрын
@@harrywalker968 it wasn't a car I owned, and I was only 19 at the time ... but the image of that teardown sticks with me today. I still have a piston from that engine somewhere.
@jjcaruso44
@jjcaruso44 9 ай бұрын
Another great video. Your subtle comments are hilarious. A great sense of humor goes a long way. Thanks
@kevincurry4735
@kevincurry4735 10 ай бұрын
Good evening Eric. Bless that Water Pumps Blades.
@My1911goldcup
@My1911goldcup 10 ай бұрын
That was painful. My 03 (54,500 miles) has received that care and respect it deserves. Even when I did drive it to work it was parked indoors. You were entertaining as always.
@Gapines23
@Gapines23 10 ай бұрын
Orange sherbet mayo, ACCURATE description sir And new hammer? Did I miss the intro of Orange to go with Ole Blue?
@Duken4evr29
@Duken4evr29 10 ай бұрын
Given the obvious lack of maintenance I'm impressed it didn't blow up - it was dying slow instead. Aside from the plug thread issue this looks like a nice simple and robust design.
@jerrydwyer9057
@jerrydwyer9057 10 ай бұрын
Seems to me they had some idea of condition before they sold it to you if the intake was removed.
@hypocriticalharambe8274
@hypocriticalharambe8274 10 ай бұрын
I have ran tap water before ... In short bursts in a vehicle that ran tap water in it forever or a few decades old coolant could not tell as it was rust as a starting out flush no thermostat and pop off the lower rad hose ... While at 300f until conditions improve.
@daewooparts
@daewooparts 10 ай бұрын
Did it come with Harley Davison oil leaks as well
@sammorgan2390
@sammorgan2390 10 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ! That's the truth there
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 4 ай бұрын
A bad PVC valve can also cause extra carbon buildup. I noticed mine was bad the other day on my 5.4 2V. Don’t give it the shake and rattle test. Remove it and attempt to blow through it the opposite way. If it passes air its bad. Carbon build up can also foul injectors. If you’re constantly replacing injectors scope your cylinders and take a look. Also if the injector has visible signs of crude attached to them you have excessive carbon buildup.
@bilphil74
@bilphil74 10 ай бұрын
I still would like to see a 1.8 from a 2016 Chevy Sonic, and a 2.4 SRT4 that came in the 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT with the aluminum intake.
@donaldvincent
@donaldvincent 9 ай бұрын
I own a bunch of last generation Lincoln Town Cars. I have the spark plug repair kit from Summit Racing & keep a box full of the repair inserts. With the kit the total repair time is 15-20 minutes per cylinder. Most of that is getting debris out. Use the appropriate thread locker when installing the insert and you will never have a problem with that cylinder again.
@grilobite
@grilobite 10 ай бұрын
Every time with the bad water pumps... Laughing this hard feels illegal somehow.
@nickvinten7803
@nickvinten7803 10 ай бұрын
Cheers, another informative, amusing video especially over our side of the pond where 3.0L is considered a 'big' engine 😊
@antoniovillanueva308
@antoniovillanueva308 10 ай бұрын
"Cannonball Run 2" is free on YT! Also, there is free gum in the ashtray outside of the Flying J truck stop in Eloy, AZ. No, just no.
@ClydeDCamel-mv6ml
@ClydeDCamel-mv6ml 10 ай бұрын
I was hoping that you would have pulled the mystery "thing" that you guessed to be a socket out of the intake port on the one head for us to see. If it was a socket, I think it would have made an interesting clatter when the engine ran.
@trentonrichardson2846
@trentonrichardson2846 10 ай бұрын
Best part of my weekend right here
@izzyryder4969
@izzyryder4969 10 ай бұрын
The orange colored carbon on the valves @19:33 might be caused from running an octane booster fuel additive.
@2packs4sure
@2packs4sure 10 ай бұрын
Well you broke my heart man,,, I wanted to see that socket that was in that head... I'm hurting..
@dylananderson4421
@dylananderson4421 10 ай бұрын
the 2v Modulars, all of em, (4.6/5.4/6.8) may be my favorite engines. My 98 F150 has 350k on it and barely uses any oil. Still yields factory mpg and makes factory power. Almost every sensor is original. Synthetic oil changes every 5k and these will work and work and work. Their size can make working on certain things a challenge, depending on the chassis they're in, but by and large they are dead simple and dead reliable.
@chrisvig123
@chrisvig123 10 ай бұрын
I see a neighbour that has a Harley Davidson F150 and the body is completely rotted out…I laugh every time I see it 😂
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 10 ай бұрын
Cancer
@MacGyver-1
@MacGyver-1 10 ай бұрын
That looks like I had a bunch of radiator stop leak put thru it , my first truck I bought in high school had that from the previous owner, and it turned to sludge and blocked the lower radiator tube and had that terrible color to it
@davidmobley714
@davidmobley714 10 ай бұрын
Why didn't you tear down the supercharger to see how bad it was worn? 🙂
@enough_horsepower
@enough_horsepower Ай бұрын
best channel for engine study! thanks for this vids eric. 😊
@markpinther9296
@markpinther9296 10 ай бұрын
The water pump scene was priceless. IMHO when you are banging those pistons out of the block, I would spray the bores down with some kind of real lubricant. Would lesson any damage to the block in general. Especially since you only blew out one side of the engine with the air wand.
@tdirunner4832
@tdirunner4832 10 ай бұрын
I used to own a 2002 HD F-150 and that engine was awesome. I live in the St. Louis area, so I hope that isn't the engine out of my old truck. I took good care of it while I had it, but I can't speak to the ownership after me. I sold it back in 2008 when the price of premium fuel was almost $5 a gallon.
@Sam8787a
@Sam8787a 10 ай бұрын
Dude!! You got the plugs out of a 5.4 without breaking them!!!
@JohnnyReb2000
@JohnnyReb2000 10 ай бұрын
You're thinking of the 5.4 3v, which didn't come out in the F-150 until 2004. 5.4 2v's are known for shooting them into space if you either under or over torque them.
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 10 ай бұрын
I like the 2V Triton engines but, they are very wide. It makes it difficult to swap them into older chassis.
@GEOTigerHNTR
@GEOTigerHNTR 10 ай бұрын
Just saw the water pump and couldn’t stop laughing! Problems, uh YEAH!😂
@Kyle11b
@Kyle11b 10 ай бұрын
When pulling the plugs, that looked like boostane residue or other additives for octane increase. You'll see this on the plugs and 02 sensors.
@ENYoriginal
@ENYoriginal 10 ай бұрын
12:03 That's Orange Julius 😂
@highpower3006
@highpower3006 10 ай бұрын
I have noticed that at least three quarters of the engines you tear apart died due to neglect. What shame that so many car drivers have zero clue about basic maintenance.
@dismask
@dismask 10 ай бұрын
Sooo.. I think it just you with dipsticks... Rainman Ray's Repairs dipsticks just magically fall out for him... lol
@harrywalker968
@harrywalker968 10 ай бұрын
yeh, like me,,there sick of his banter.. now people are taking junkers to him,,cos he does too good a job.. south main auto good too..
@aderi31415
@aderi31415 10 ай бұрын
Was gonna make the same comment. He wasn't even trying.
@dismask
@dismask 10 ай бұрын
@@harrywalker968 yea.. I like southmain also.... i love his diogs....
@1keykneedeep
@1keykneedeep 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Engine held up well despite the abuse. My 5.4 is still strong at 185k.
@jims6323
@jims6323 10 ай бұрын
I remember back in the 60's I helped my dad change the crank seal on a 1949 GMC pickup. It had the same grey goo in the pan, my dad said it was lead from the gas!
@RobertJohnsonLasers
@RobertJohnsonLasers 10 ай бұрын
I had an older Ford Taurus, it had the same orange sludge in the coolant, an orange coolant was put in with the green coolant, that orange sludge collected in the bottle, and after 3 complete flushes, I still had the sludge but much thinner. Never hurt the car, but was a pain.
@FSHerrante
@FSHerrante 10 ай бұрын
At first I watched your videos out of curiosity to see what a catastrophic event was like in different engines and contemplate all that destruction, but little by little I have even been learning mechanical concepts that I could use to make small repairs on my own engine.
@andrecampbell691
@andrecampbell691 10 ай бұрын
Looks like a sturdy engine. It's hard to believe Ford would build the heads with such sallow spark plug holes. This was basically a built-in defect.
@TheTruthBeToId
@TheTruthBeToId 10 ай бұрын
You can just use a bottom 5.4 engine from a E150/250 van. It's a low compression engine same as the one used in these HD/Lighting trucks with a supercharger. They did it like that to avoid the engines blowing with the regular compression the 5.4 n/a had.
@glennthompson9133
@glennthompson9133 10 ай бұрын
Same spark plug thread problem was in the Lightning. I can't remember what year in the production run they went to a head that had a thicker area there and had 8 treads instead of 4. Alex (Legit Street Cars) ran into the thread problem on his Lightning.
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