The best MMORPG no one is playing

[@JBall158]

"I haven't had fun in years." As an MMO enjoyer that truth hurts lmfao

[@xomox5316]

single player games for now on, no more going back to 10-20 year old MMOs we left them for a reason old stale dead wastes of time

[@yamster666]

try toram online, it's a jam packed mmo with only the best systems and work mechanics

[@Turahk]

that's pretty sad

[@amir.r1639]

Its because it takes you 2 thousand hours to reach somewhere while they can make it way way less time consuming

[@brewergamer]

Crafting in Albion is important because literally every single item, every single drop in the game is crafted by players. Next time you loot an item click on it and you'll see it was crafted by a player. It's done through the Black Market system in Caerleon, you sell your crafted items to the Black Market and it is then used as drops from mobs. A really unique and intuitive way to balance an ingame economy imo.

[@TomDonnan]

That's a cool loot system. How does it work if nobody is selling the items that the mob drops though, does it just drop nothing in that case?

[@brewergamer]

@@TomDonnan the black market always buys items from players, if no players are selling the item that is supposed to drop the buy price goes higher and higher until the order is filled. so you can craft and sell an item to it for millions potentially. EDIT: I will say it still will drop an item, just an alternative one.

[@NatoRadeX]

If they really want to balance the economy they need to put a 1-2 plot limit for cities per account/IP. These cartels just bully any new player who tries to build a plot to sell whatever he is trying to sell. Plus some cities are all owned by 1 player at some extremes.

[@klos6731]

​@@TomDonnanmob drops are the demand for black market. For exemple : If the game doesnt have enough tier 6.2 acceptable quality hellion jacket (an item in the drop table of some mobs) it's price will go up in the black market. Someone will notice and sell some before the game would actually drop the item. In summary (it's not quite exact) the answer to ur question is that the game has a bank of items and can go on debt by raising the black market buy orders. Anyway the truth is dropping a rare item dropping it's value in silver cuz 99% of the time ur selling it there's no such thing as dropping a cool new weapon and equipping it right away like a chad past a few dozen hours.

[@klos6731]

​@@NatoRadeXgo sell whatever you re trying to sell wdym you need a plot to sell ?? If you have enough money to buy plots and make money from taxes i'd say you're on the winning hand of the balance lmao. Go lose 100M in 8.3 in mist asap xD

[@TorpaydoS]

To answer your question about crafting in Albion, it does make a load of money for a small minority. If no one crafted, the crafting would make you tons of money. This is because of the city you mentioned at the end, Caerleon. There is something called the Black Market here. The Black Market is similar to the Auction house/GE that most people would be used to. But instead of another player buying the Two-Handed Axe you are selling, the game buys it. Then the game takes your Axe and puts it into the loot pool for the reward chests that you open in PVE or PVP content. This is because nearly every item in the game you interact with (with the exception of crafting materials and things like experience tomes), was crafted by a player and sold to the black market. So if everyone in the game stopped crafting and supplying the black market, the game would eventually run out of loot for dungeon rewards (and the Black Market buys things at the lowest offer that people post it for, so eventually it would start to offer two to three times the value of an item for someone to supply it). Moreover, gear is lost to other players on death in full loot PVP zones (red and black zones). There is a chance that gear "trashes" and becomes completely worthless and unrepairable. So crafters make sure there is a balance in the system of the loot supplied to PVE-ers and the money that the game provides for crafted gear.

[@KevinZ.000]

A good explanation of the black market, it is rather unique to AO.

[@alyasVictorio]

OOOOOH!!! So that's why most of the time, some legendary chests (outside of Roads of Avalon) had loot worth of less than a million silver because selling T6~T8.4 items was way rarer (all because of how less crafters/gatherers play this game due to gankers tho-, which results in less items to craft and sell)

[@everythingpony]

​@@KevinZ.000wait its real? Where is it? I wanna buy on thr black market

[@KevinZ.000]

@@everythingpony Player sell to the black market for better prices than the cities and the game uses the black market for loot drops. You can't buy off of it, only sell to.

[@GibsnRage]

This whole comment is accurate, but misses the fundamental point: All gear, consumables, and mounts in the game are crafted by players (with some minor exceptions such as low tier tutorial stuff, donkeys, tomes of insight, and some others - where the exceptions do not impact player interactions at the mid-late game.) You cannot own a tier 4 bow if someone didn't craft it. You cannot own a horse, if someone did not raise it and saddle it, and you cannot drink a health potion if someone did not craft it. Gathering is foundational - without it, there will be no materials for crafting. Crafting is essential, without it there would be no tools of war for people to use to fight, and the rest of us who can't be farced with crafting because we're too interested in fighting are farming silver to pay those people for their work. Most players at endgame take up gathering professions, many will take two or three and focus on them, but more dedicated players will train up all of them because it is very easy to just grab a gatherer set from the bank and go grab some materials and in a quick hour or two make a few million silver. It's one of the fastest and easiest active methods for earning silver in the game, and since it's a full loot PvP game, it's quite possible to burn through a lot of it very quickly :P

[@megrock6920]

“Oh no, I don’t think-“ (I don’t comment much but I love your videos, and wanted you to know you have fans watching them all the way through! Keep up the good work!)

[@chenzhao3905]

as an eveonline veteran, what I feel is that: Albion is eve in fantasy land. LOL

[@Kenionatus]

Very much.

[@BanControl]

eve player here as well, and absolutely. black zone is just sov null and red zone is lowsec xD

[@mude_13]

Thank you for discouraging me from trying this game lol

[@johnpauljonesisabadass8134]

yeah I think Eve is the inspiration for Albion online

[@johnpauljonesisabadass8134]

​@@mude_13 It's not as political as eve tho lmao

[@Rawbful]

I’m so glad I found Albion. It is actually an MMO and not a single player game disguised as an MMO.

[@steadychasingmoneybands6213]

wait til you see how its pay 2 win

[@HexAndrei]

wdym p2w bro @@steadychasingmoneybands6213

[@xongaming4456]

@@steadychasingmoneybands6213 pay to win how? Even if you use real money to buy a bunch of ingame gold to purchase high tier gears, you're still not invincible, you CAN still die from someone who never used real-money to purchase anything from the game. There's no special exclusive stats for anyone who uses real money.

[@Moth-Mellow]

​@@xongaming4456You must be new. How adorable.

[@LolZatz]

@@Moth-Mellow what???? Do u even play it ? Lmao it’s all about your pvp skills. “ oh high gear = ez win” 😂 dead wrong ip spec pvp ganking everything u need to learn if you ain’t got 50mill fame or ever joined a guild and join them in biz ganking than you ain’t know shit 😂

[@99sonder]

I love how you're slowly but surely transitioning into silly zoomer Josh Strife Hayes

[@JaceComix]

I'm here for it

[@psyjinx]

Nakey Jakey and J1mmy vibes. Love this format.

[@plum999o]

i weirdly never see other osrs content creators mentioning josh, tho i suppose he doesn't talk about any others either

[@asKiFTW]

What an odd statement

[@IdylOnTV]

my hairline disagrees that I am a zoomer

[@kyrooo12]

So basically Red Zones are scary for crafters/transporters but not scary for solo player Theres Black Zone for that that you missed, its a outland map thats around 3x bigger than the royal continent and where most of the contents/guild contents rest

[@Hananniee]

Idyl strife hayes

[@jacobmehring1659]

Hello Torvesta

[@LPcrazy_88]

Excuse me your Hanannie-ness, that is -President- Idyl Strife Hayse to you.

[@wulf2863]

Lidl

[@smokedupgaming]

As a guy who usually shaves, i decided i would see how long i could go without shaving, and without the ability to grow a beard i basically look like you Idyl and it gives me great joy to see that others embrace their shitty beards.

[@TonyOnTheInternet]

YOURE NOT ALONE SHITTY NON-FULL BEARD GAME RISE UP

[@psyjinx]

Anytime I feel self-conscious about my beard, I just throw a shoutout to simpleflips.

[@johnybalohny]

Honestly, I would have never thought about his beard if you hadn't mentioned it. Doesn't seem bad to me.

[@IdylOnTV]

why shave when i can embrace my patchy beard

[@dectocs]

Just remember if it is really patchy, especially moustache area, it may be inevitable that trimming it to a certain length or lower is the only good look.

[@GraveRender]

This game is fun until you get to higher tiers of stuff and realize the gameplay loop only exists to fuel PVP and the PVE at endgame is non-existant.

[@meokayenglish8361]

Yeah, every profitable PVE are always littered with PVP. Which sucks, because people who hunt PVE group will always be a win since they only bring their PVP gears, and Albion are very punishing when it comes to switching items mid fight. World boss -> A lot of low tier gear rats that will mess up your pull Ava raid -> Gankers / divers that will follow you and fight, your death is a huge loss because you bring two set (PVE and PVP), their kills are always a win because they get two set. There are no other noticeable PVE in lethal zone, and even these in lethal zone only relies on "dont get caught / spotted by enemies" in the first place. Which is kind of dumb.

[@kisainjekisa1741]

The game is build for pvp and NOT for pve... that is the whole premise for it... on launch YZ Faction was also foolloot, so it became way softer compared to back than ... Albions strongpoint is the PVP and the fact that it is everywhere.

[@znttthefox369]

Just to clarify: it takes more than a year for a focused player to complete all branches of the equipment tree, so the "non-existent PVE in the endgame" is not a short-term statement. You will probably spend years playing PVE at maximum tier without completing the entire equipment tree. And I haven't even mentioned the crafting and gathering tree yet...

[@GraveRender]

@@znttthefox369 I guess, if that is the only type of content someone is interested in. But most PVE players want substantial dungeons and raids with mechanics that don't require you to be a member of a big guild.

[@NoU-wc5ny]

@@znttthefox369 too bad no one actually uses the maxed equipment tree for anything in pvp because the majority of players never risk anything over tier 6

[@devilyouknow6714]

You're like the modern blues clues of mmo youtube and I'm here for it

[@IdylOnTV]

I won't abandon you like Steve did

[@TemperedMedia]

@@IdylOnTV To be fair, even if you did, it'd likely be for the same reason Steve left... man can only subject himself to the torture for so long.

[@mythcraft3445]

albion is a great game, but the reasons it isnt big is a few things right. full loot deaths scare casuals away, and zerg pvp controlled areas scare people away. if you have mechanics like that in a game its bound to never have a truly masive audience, but it is one of the few mmos around that still has a steady playerbase, i dont think that game needs any help and i dont think ppl arent aware of it existing

[@peterlopez2388]

Nail right on the head. Personally I hate games with forced PvP but for those who like it I hear it’s a good game.

[@bhanguusa9788]

@@peterlopez2388you don’t need to do and it’ll be fun grinding and doing PvE but you’ll just be locked away from some stuff in the game or you can try to sneak past players with invisible but eventually you’ll have to fight but it’s not “forcing” PvP

[@peterlopez2388]

@@bhanguusa9788 “eventually you’ll have to fight” that’s called forced PVP.

[@OmniDan26]

@@bhanguusa9788 pvp zones are by default forcecd pvp.

[@MavolTube]

Mounts come in clutch

[@JaraxinK]

I used to play Albion with some online friends. Outside of guildwide dungeon/ZvZ content, they all did *one* thing. They gathered, refined, crafted, farmed, OR did pvp- never more than a couple of these. Me? I tried to do everything, with varying levels of success. I actually got to T8 herb farming, maxed out a few fire and healing staves, crafted some T7 gear. But for the Idea of being-self sufficient? No, I would NOT recommend that ideal.

[@adoorknob7053]

Commenting now as I add this to my watch later list so I can see if my assumptions hold up. I'm gonna guess he's in the phase most people who like Albion go through where the PvE has yet to become dry and he hasn't been funneled into the endless loop of getting ganked by sweats using recon bots in the BZ.

[@adoorknob7053]

I was correct.

[@TheBananaThug]

@@adoorknob7053 You guessed that a new player didnt reach the end game very smort

[@adoorknob7053]

@@TheBananaThug buddy red and black zones are not end game. The PvE he spoke highly of gets old fast, even without sweat squad gankers no lifing you for your tier 5 gear. The game isn't for me, but let's not act like the PvE is good. It's just a means to create PvP interactions.

[@TheBananaThug]

@@adoorknob7053 idk i find solo mists and group roads pve pretty fun. Its not thrilling but its engaging enough. Blackzone imo is pointless unless your in your guilds zone

[@jstncheney]

Recon bots? I love how i got banned for 900 years for auto running in alpha, yet, we have recon bots. And they refused to unban me. I tried getting back into it at launch. Just couldn't. Burn out is real in this one.

[@bonk2910]

Healing is probably my favorite aspect of Albion, it's also one of the few mmos where I found healing to be enjoyable and rewarding.

[@nocomment9306]

Great video man, really had a blast watching it. I must say if you join a guild the layer of depth in the game tenfold, all the group content, guild dynamics and drama is pretty fun and also helps to keep the game engaging. One of my best memories in this game is playing in a small guild fighting to place a hideout in the black zone and claim our right to live there. It is true that the only lore this game has is the one that the players themselves create, and i think that is pretty dope.

[@FeltonDood]

So, the crafting system is how the drops are generated. Any time you get an item from a chest in a dungeon or where ever. The game buys items from players from a special market. (It's a little more complicated than that but that's the basics)

[@Stomeruk]

its not an regular mmo its a PVPmmo with tiny microscopic pve in it and i even bought into the beta and never played it since it was entirely like eve online where you lose everything on death. Just not fun in my opinion, but the graphic styles does look nice still

[@emmanuelsampaio4687]

A lot has changed since then, with tons of pve content, raids, etc. But yeah, the focus is full loot pvp, you gotta think of your gear like it's a consumable, like food or potions. You should maybe give it a go. If you bought the beta, you probably have founder skins that are worth a lot, and i mean A LOT of silver today.

[@marc-y5e]

I played for 500+ hours and left because of monetisation changes. They heavily increased the premium prices per month to something that's too much.

[@PhenomRom]

Wait to how much

[@drackaris_]

@@PhenomRom 15 a month if you pay monthly down to like 12 if you pay yearly. I think local markets may have had different price changes as well, but the price for silver (in game currency) has gone up tremendously, meaning if you were totally free to play and paid for premium with silver, its much harder to do now than it was about a year back.

[@aleco678]

@@drackaris_thats not too bas for current year tbh a bit expensive yea

[@crazykhespar8487]

@Aleco678 Its not hard for enfranchised players- For new players its an automatic turnoff.

[@ColorbIind]

Ya, I do feel like the premium price is kinda ridiculous, especially since it doesn't even really give you extra content, but once you get to a certain point, or if you get pretty good at the pvp it is actually pretty easy to fund you membership with in game currency. It definetly takes a while to get there (unless you have experience with similar style combat. I have played A LOT of LoL and the combat is somewhat similar to that so I feel like I picked up the combat pretty quick. If you get good at the combat you can stand to make a lot of money in corrupted dungeons, and it being 1 v 1, really comes down to your mechanics and skill. If you are less mechanically talented you can get a group together and gank people. It is very possible to pay for your membership entirely with in game money once you get rolling.

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

I was kind of interested in the Albion Online from this video, until the point where it talks about the cash shop, i was like "holy shit, that's a lot of stuff you can buy, i'm out of here".

[@johnhale2632]

It's only cosmetics and offers the ability to trade for ingame usable currency, if you think that's bad then just know it was gonna happen anyways since people RMT in every game just like runescape...

[@d0onut]

The cosmetic shop was a big nope, glad it was highlighted

[@KevinZ.000]

@@johnhale2632 I play AO and you are correct that is mostly cosmetic, and RMT is a real issue is many MMO's

[@Matt-eg9dl]

There are a number of "starter bundles" that give you cosmetics for the price of premium itself. So, free cosmetics. I never use them. In a WoW-type game, you raid the final boss and get epic armor and its cool. In Albion, if you die you drop your gear. All gear is basically consumable. So, no gear is epic show off gear. Cosmetics just give you a theme. It is completely unrelated to the game, and it is just for fun.

[@HowToKillAliens]

you can turn off cosmetics in this game

[@shmootube5000]

Albion crafting system is such that you only make money if you use focus and fill journals while crafting, otherwise you will at best break even. Aside from having to have premium to really use focus, I actually like how it works because it forces you to specialize on just one crafting type, but one specific thing like if you do cooking, you will use your focus more efficiently if you max out specifically pies, then it’s like yeah you’re the pie guy in your city and every day you got your eyes on what pies are selling for, it’s like a stock market mini game.

[@LL43216]

I’m so happy seeing this channel growing steadily. Idk how you edit and script but as someone who’s trying to do the KZbin stuff too (on a different account) it definitely makes me curious. Your humor and niche resonate with me and I am taking notes

[@justinjohnson48]

This is old but I just came across this dude. He literally just watched j1mmy as osrs content creator and does his videos the exact same way. So to answer your question, just take what others are doing and copy

[@greyveil]

I have been playing AO for about a year and a half, I love the game, and you did a great job describing it, and yes, once your spec is high enough in crafting you can make good money, you also get higher yield in gathering as you spec up gathering.

[@megakillowning]

Crafting items is really helpful when u get to T8. You can craft your item with max enchantment which u can not buy in the market. Oh and if you can craft a max enchantment gear you can attune them to add unique stats based on your playstyle.

[@jamesc8722]

The game kills itself by having all black zones controlled by ganking guild cartels. The majority of the endgame content is undoable. Add in the fact that people are years ahead in grinding, means we are not only fighting Superman, but it’s usually an entire squad of supermen hunting us down on every black zone map. Markets are so monopolized that crafting is like trying to start up a mom and pop drug store, next to 20 Walmarts. Add in the most toxic backstabbing community. GG

[@acupofcoffee7545]

try newer servers maybe

[@rerere1569]

I played quite a bit of albion (around 250 hours). For me too much focus on open world pvp which is almost always unfair, it makes some experiences especially rewarding, but most of the time will leave you salty after you losing everything over and over again to a bunch of gankers

[@sketch2347]

legit the exact reason why i stopped playing. I worked my ass off to get the ability to gather high tier resources with tools i crafted myself. Hours of my time put into this game, and from time to time money put into the game that i was having a good time with. well cut too this month when i realized how im basically at the mercy of gankers if i want to continue my gatherer journey as im forced to go into PVP zones to harvest and gather and it sucks. its actually almost impossible. so i quit, i wont waste my time like that, hoping that the hours of my life pay off, only to realize they wont pay off, and im actually being held back from "play the game the way I wanted to play", which is the games way of trying to attract players with that moniker. Its a good game, its well made, and you can tell the dev team cares, but its just not for me anymore and it sucks. I didnt think this would happen with a game I constantly talk positive about. I dont mind ganks in games for the record. It just doesn't feel right in Albion online I can't put my finger on it.

[@sketch2347]

@@bagofchips885 honestly i dont even think it would be a problem if the game didnt sell itself as one of those "do what you want games". no its not one of those games. yes you can be a fisherman and just fish and contribute to economy and buy stuff sure, but you will be stuck in low level zones forever if you dont want to PVP, and you will never be able to work your way up the rarity tier of fish.

[@lovathon6365]

the lack of any substantial pve. also, crafting sucks since its so expensive since the game doesnt have a standard fee...

[@MuriloLuzPD]

I was one of those fishermen, I got to tier 8 fishing in the red zones, but it wasn't fun. I stayed hours in the same map and same spots because it was the only viable way to get good fish, and every time a flagged name appeared on the corner of the screen I needed to run for my life. And the black zones are even worst. So much time wasted...@@sketch2347

[@sketch2347]

@@lovathon6365 yeah you really have to hope the station owners dont tax your crafting to death

[@Bandoolero]

bro injected so much humor into this video, deserves more subs

[@Flea_ip]

I played Albion several years ago, but I only stuck with it for like 3 days. It's not that it wasn't fun or anything, but it was mainly two things that pushed me away: 1) seeing that END GAME, like tier 5 and 6 stuff or however high it goes, was basically all going to be PvP, and 2) seeing how long the grind was GOING to be.. I just said, nah, nope, not gonna get involved in that, see ya. Shame, really, cause it's not a bad game.

[@FaforeTr]

U call T5-T6 "end game" ? Bro u played like 10h maximum

[@Flea_ip]

@@FaforeTr Doesn't matter. I could see where it was going, and I wasn't interested in that.

[@aeea3306]

the grind is what all mmos have though

[@7Myuri]

24:28 noo, you joined at the Martlock Faction, after all the resources that Bridgwatch gave you they even showed you how is the batle at 23:13😭😭

[@555Plus]

I like the player driven economy in this game, but too many bots took over blue and yellow zones. It's very hard for new players to make enough silver to buy premium.

[@alyasVictorio]

Yeah! Most bots stole nearby resources from nearby real players, which is simple but irritating

[@baumapfel4463]

if you want to make money dont waste your time in blue and yellow zones go in to black zone/mists with a cheap set

[@555Plus]

@@baumapfel4463 That's the problem. Black zone are fun, but it's very stressful when grinding there for hours. Sometimes I just want to be a filthy casual and chill out in the safe zonle.

[@Deemole]

That doesn't matter cuz you can't make prem in yellow or blue zone lol. Shouldn't be In those zone anyways it won't get u anywhere.

[@Larimuss]

Yeah bots own the safe zones and guilds/gankers own the others.

[@nickparsons3194]

Always been interested in albion maybe ill give ut a go now. Also please make a runelite plugin that plays Nigel Thornberry saying "smashing" when you use a dragon pickaxe spec

[@kurd7585]

How was your experience It's been 9 months

[@RODAN98]

😂

[@DI0NY5US]

I miss ~2014 EvE Online. Best sandbox MMO experience I've ever had.

[@BanControl]

i would argue eve is in a lot healthier state 10 years later, come back and check it out :)

[@perytonz1608]

binging this channel rn despite my very limited mmorpg experience... your attitude and video style is not only very entertaining and charming but its addicting and making me wanna get back into mmorpg stuff reeeeeeaal bad despite my lack of money or time to do so. super good content

[@WarbrainJack]

This man seems like he's losing his mind and it's beautiful. Loving the direction your channel is going - as a osrs only player.

[@j_shaw]

0:51 at this point you should just go full Jimmy mcGill and replace the greenscreen with a bunch of fake cardboard columns in the background 😂

[@niicedave]

Idyl bro you're funny as shit. Great content as always just wanted to tell you almost every single bit you do actually makes me laugh out loud or at the very least exhale air more quickly from my nostrils.

[@Nicholas7137]

This man said, "i tried it out as a tank with a battle axe." Lmfao

[@Icefrostmiguel]

I'm a vet in this game. This is the best MMORPG for people who like playing with others and for people who like pvp. The economy is 100% player driven. 99% of all items are crafted by players. All the mob drop items besides stones ARE crafted by players through the Blackmarket system. Large groups of players have debuffs in stats to balance PVP. There are only 3 servers, no channels. The game is the most alive MMO ever because of that decision. You can play with ANY quantity of friends: 1, 2,3,4,5,20,30,50, you name it. There is content for any group size. There are NO classes, you can play a HUGE number of combinations, and EVERYTHING you level is worth leveling since it powers upthe other branch weapons of the same tree. Having a guild feels amazing, the content you are able to participate is immense. There are all sorts of RISK REWARD mechanics in Albion. It is a full loot game, the higher the risk the higher the rewards. I've started on the new server (EU) in the blackzone. Dont be afraid of dying. Dying and losing everything in your equipment and bag is normal and thats why people buy cheap sets. And thats also why as a new player you can have a good experience. It is rare for people to go full maxed out to pvp zones, so you are not facing an Immortal being camping on you. All systems are meticously thought out, the timers to avoid spawn killing, the invisibility potion you can take to go to pvp zones to get away from spawn, the dismount cooldowns, the mount's health, the anti cc gear, the cc gear... Everything is polished. The coolest thing for me is going roads of Avalon wich limits groups to average 7 player count, with my discord friends and having small fights for the sweet sweet loot from players and the insane XP this zone provides!

[@YoVuelo]

Bro must have taken for ever for you to type out 😂

[@TheOtrebor19]

@tenchu3770 pvp is hit and run might be the dumbest thing i've ever heard about albion

[@TheOtrebor19]

@tenchu3770 well it's true i mostly play avaroads in groups of 6 to 7, however judging a whole game only on 1v1 pvp in a game clearly more driven towards big scale is stupid

[@XeB9701]

The crafting system in Albion is pretty much the backbone of the game. The items crafted by players are used to keep the games economy going and through caerleon's black market they become loot drops for mobs. Some servers like EU servers who dont have, for example, players with islands to craft mounts like the riding horse that server is out of luck and their markets or mobs won't be able to feed the need. This also means that prices fluctuate in a way that is very closeley similar to our real world economic systems. Its really just incredible.

[@tustinbear5831]

two things that will turn me away from an mmo: 1. dailies/weeklies that are required to progress 2. to play effiencent you need to play multiple classes and do said dailies on them 1 part 2. bosses that you can only kill a limited number of times per day/week

[@Matt-eg9dl]

At the end of the day, Albion has only one meaningful daily quest, and it is for 10 learning points, which is very helpful. Even when I wasn't actively playing the game, when I was bored I would log in on my phone and chop a couple trees just to get my learning points. It was fun, it was just enough. Albion also has daily crafting bonuses and 2-day rotating activity bonuses. Crafting bonuses add some strategy for crafting, which won't affect you unless you like crafting. Activity bonuses are right-sized. They give a real incentive to try a part of the game you haven't tried before without making your go-to activity a waste of time.

[@aelion7761]

None of that applies to albion, but that doesn't mean doesn't have it's cons.

[@baumapfel4463]

1. the dailies in albion are not important you dont need to do them. 2. you dont need to level multiple weapons and gear if you want to play only one type of content. 3. albion is not a gacha game you can grind all day long.

[@tacofacefart]

​@@Matt-eg9dlI've literally been playing since beta and I didn't know there was a learning point daily.

[@steadychasingmoneybands6213]

@@tacofacefart how? it pops up every day...

[@martinpospisil3747]

You should review every mmorpg like that. Or atleast the ones that are popular or have high active player count.

[@maxkilla4325]

Just here to say as a near two year player of this game if your new save your learning points for gathering!

[@Iskwalala]

Did no one see the chat in 5:54? 😭😭😭😭

[@Rocker7550]

advice for new players: don't gather or craft, get some silver from yellow zones, use that silver to go the red or black zones (mists are good), focus on one weapon at a time, save up for premium (then you can gather and craft bcs it saves a lot of time), AAAND only use learning points on gathering

[@Egghead012]

That sounds like a lot of "play the game MY way or dont play at all"

[@cosmefulanito5052]

@@Egghead012 no it sounds like a great advice for new players

[@sillyredsheep2421]

5:54 I see even the President of MMOs is not immune to gamer rage

[@maxkilla4325]

so also it didnt seem like you touched on the market enough which is completely player driven as well as drops from dungeons, everthing on the market was either crafted or gathered by another player, as well as any gear drops dungeons, which come through the black market in the center city. So gathering and crafting fuels pvp as well as the economy as a whole.

[@torjuck7819]

Used to play albion for a few years and was a crafter/zerg player in the black zone for a medium sized guild... I used to maintain 6 accounts with 3 characters each all with premium just with the crafting(did not spend a cent for premium just for cosmetics)... what I did was buy and transport stuff in all the cities and would mainly craft meta items for Zerg vs Zerg(ZVZ) in all the cities and eventually got tired of it as was basically doing it like a job... the best and worst part for me was the ZVZ in the game.

[@MrSimpsondennis]

So; TL;DR: - which skills you are leveling depends on what you are using to level - the skill tree is immense, but it's actually a merged overview of RS's many skill menu's - equipment tier system is similar to Minecraft's pickaxe system - combat is simplified RS3 combat oh no... I don't, think

[@CaffyPvP]

The combat was too simplified. It got boring after a few weeks and I never went back.

[@Kenionatus]

I would compare combat more with a moba than with RS3.

[@MrSimpsondennis]

@@Kenionatus was considering that, but at that point it would make more sense to compare it to something like CS:GO or smth, since the skills vary depending on the weapon. Moba would be more like WoW combat

[@Kenionatus]

The reason I'm comparing it to MOBAs is because both have a small number of abilities with relatively long cooldowns, where the player skill lies in using them at the right time in the right situation. Albion and MOBAS also share the concept of spammable and ultimate abilities, so if it's comparable to a shooter then a hero shooter like Overwatch.@@MrSimpsondennis

[@ChickenBR]

Now Albion Online has a new class, the shapeshifter, Where you can transform into mythical creatures with the magic staff

[@papasalvo]

Part of the reason for the crafting grind is the upgrading of already existing gear. There is a merchant in the towns that lets you roll for a bonus to items that you give him, usually ur already equipped gear, and u can make ur items more powerful without needing to craft higher tier gear. BUT u have to bring him the raw materials for this. This is basically a flat bonus to things like damage, cast time and attack speed

[@chriskyriacou862]

You’re giving me Lucy from Big Bang Theory energy and I’m here for it

[@snaqeu]

i remember getting banned from an guild intern pvp tournament because i had a poison dot/self heal dot build where i gave my enemy dots and went invisible or used the stonecutter boots to run away lmao

[@coslorem6943]

We forgot the maffia and how it's allowed for horde players to rip on refining with bots and tax raises. It's just not a solo, nor beginner friendly piece of gamery.

[@bernardus3289]

ok ok I have a F ton of hours in albion and u want to know the reason why I still play this game? PROGRESSION. This game does prgression REALLY well and it stimulates my ADHD brain knowing I am improving all the time.

[@Poroty]

The idea behind crafting ties tightly to Black Market which you can only find in Caerleon. For every drop you get when killing mobs or opening chests, those drops are managed by the system. And Black Market npc is a market which is run by the system. You can't purchase stuffs from Black Market, you can only fill their demands and in return they pay you. So imagine yourself crafting 50 pieces of the same gear, cuz you want the crafting fame or something similar to that. No one is going to just buy all 50 of them. But with Black Market, you can fulfill around 10 pieces of their orders every 5-10 minutes. That's when crafting becomes very lucrative.

[@runeritari3]

in FFXIV you actually can start from desert funny enough if you choose Ul'dah as ur choise from 3 starting areas! So some MMO start with desertt!!

[@xanderluciano3387]

Faction chat sounds awesome. I'm sold!

[@digicidetv]

Albion is like a 4/10 it is definitely not the best MMORPG lol. I've played better mobile games than Albion. Funny video though love your content Idyl.

[@YoVuelo]

What are some other good games?

[@gooduck9538]

I’m not even lying I saw the tire v dagger earlier

[@mohammedghanem9228]

I have been looking for a sandbox mmo because runesscape UI for me a new player is unbearable so thank you for this

[@miraclehuman5262]

i played both albion and old school runescape but god osrs is so much better although i wish that some things in albion could be ported like the fact that the game is very dependent on other players

[@paulallen2680]

@@miraclehuman5262 what do you think runescape does better? I'm new to the mmo genre and am trying to learn lots about it

[@miraclehuman5262]

@@paulallen2680 in albion there isnt any quest or anything like osrs has in osrs there is a lot of quests which to me is more exciting because it puts a little bit of a path for you to move on but in albion its like YOU are the one who chooses what you do and no quests dictate that its a little bit harder for me to play like that

[@miraclehuman5262]

@@paulallen2680 also it seems that most people that talked to me about albion say the skilling is very limited so once you've run out of content you just do pvp and im more of a pve/skilling person in osrs and in osrs there is almost infinite content for that

[@GC-jm9bt]

Got a bit burned from OSRS and tried a bit of Albion. It's fun at the start but the novelty wears off quickly. If you want to try out this game and do some pvm/pve, don't do it, this game it's focussed around pvp. Probably the best way to enjoy Albion is to play it with a group of friends or guild(with other people that want to do pvp). It's not a very good game to play as a solo player. Generally I want a world that feels lively(other players around) but want to play mostly solo. It's a sandbox pvp mmo, and most of my negative feedback has to do with me looking for a different type of game. So here we go: Once you've done a couple of dungeons, you have seem them all. There are limited amount of mob types. The map is not special, it's a just a bunch of squares linked togheter with no remarkable points of interest. You don't get the wow-factor that you get with other mmos when you discover a new big city. Speaking of cities in Albion, apart from aesthetics and crafting/refining bonusses they all feel like carbon-copies of eachother. Speaking of crafting/refining/gathering, if you don't have premium don't even bother, it will just result in losses. There is no point without premium. You can do stuff like the mists, so you don't encounter large groups. But you will encounter people with double your IP there, and even if you play it perfectly you will still lose because the other person out-gears you. Don't come in and expect it be a competitve environment with a level playing field. Don't come in and expect quests, meanining full gathering/craftging, pve. Only play this game if you like the combat system and like pvp.

[@itzajordan]

Everyone else has failed to mention what you have👏 game aint shit without premium😂

[@AljoschaSINNLOS]

OH NO. HE USES HIS LEARNING POINTS FOR COMBAT LEVELING. GG

[@Elysia119]

Okay a player here with over 10.000+ hours in albion online (ex-player tbh). The game starts off great thats 100% true, looking back that was my best time it. To get your first cow mount, to get the first few hundred K silver, get your island and your crops going etc. But then it just gets worse and worse and worse. You cant play solo (if you looking for solo game, just look elsewhere), you are forced to cooperate with all kinds of stupid people or people who simply seeking their own gain and leave you to die. But lets say you get lucky and you find your second family over there. You are still going to be grinded down between two wheels. 1. You will be a small spec of dust with no power: You (your guild) dont own any high tier black zones, you dont own any safe land where you can safely farm up from high tier resources / dungeons etc; you will have absolutely no money or you will have to work for the same amount of money 10x more, and you will feed the big guys guilds with your corpses and loots day by day. 2. You will be a small spec of dust with almost no power: You (your guild) does own a high tier black zone, or own hideouts in influental zones. Now you can run around the high tier zone, watch how every resource is already farmed out, or being farmed out by your "teammates". If you get lucky or just have a ton of time, you can eventually find some high tier resources and farm them, trying to dodge rival guilds ganking squads to make it back to the HO, thinking to yourself that "ohh boy, this is nothing... you have to transport it all the way back to the main cities and how hard that will be". Ofc being part of the guild has its benefits as i described, but has its downsides: you have to go to CTA every day/multiple days a week. That means maxing out specs that you dont want for the team (like a job) and then come up multiple times a week to defend those aforementioned high tier zones from the enemy guild. How does this looks like? Well you wil have to follow your shotcaller that means running around in a zerg with 2fps around multiple black zones until you find the enemies (this can take hours) or the enemies decide to attack. Then you will be probably dead in the first few second or if you are lucky you can do that for 2+ more hours.

[@Huangcolin]

If you want a solo game, why not play one of the many single player rpg's out there? To me the point of an MMO is to play with others, having a 100v100 guild fight where other guilds can potentially come to third party you, or rat you is a whole other experience. Also its not THAT hard to join a top 20 guild, but of course you will have to follow their rules/system.

[@viperblade6095]

Man honestly thats your experience, cause is the "meta" experience of the game but for me, i played always on chill guilds, idk if it is cause us hispanic community are always more friendly or chaotic, but on that guilds i met so many good people! People you laughed with on a gaming night doing group pve or even yell each other and hyping each other after going roaming on bz, repeating the next day, and they didnt wanted me to tryhard the game and be "efficient" even the leader that had 1.2b pvp fame didnt wanted to milk us for content, honestly i dont regret playing this game cause was one of the best online game experiences i had in my life! ;)

[@cepilluco]

Best description of the end game.

[@Zaliz4832]

I love how niche you’re community is, but goddamn are you an underappreciated content creator. Keep up the good work!

[@lady_sofine1193]

Albion Online started off very strong for me. crafting actually felt useful unlike other MMOs. I hit a massive roadblock going from T3 to T4 (i think at least, not loggin into the game to check lol) as crafting just became such a slog it was no longer fun. I don't mind grinds (hell im doing mlm on OSRS as i type this) but such a crafting heavy game shouldnt have shared resources. That and knowing for every resource I collected i was at a disadvantage because i wasnt a premium member (small benefits sure but still a benefit). That and learning everything basically lead into PVP. Want to do the best PVE stuff?? Well good luck as its in a PVP zone which is NOT optional PVP. Those just really killed my enjoyment of the game.

[@Pixelest001]

You shouldn’t be crafting all your own gear. It’s basically a waste of time. You craft mass quantities to make money and then buy the single items you need. But crafting like that without premium will always lose money. As for the heir tier content you should join a guild and make friends. Albion is actually an mmo where you need to play with others to do content

[@cooltjh4]

@@Pixelest001 even crafting WITH premium loses you money, hell crafting with fame loses money too.

[@Megneous]

@@cooltjh4 Make a spreadsheet. Crafting is the only thing I do to make silver in Albion and I do just fine without premium. I just don't craft things if they're not profitable. It's always possible to find something else to craft.

[@jennreemelgar3737]

5:54 I love how he curses on the public chat for no reason xD

[@fooff1]

I played Albion cause my buddy said “hey, play this game with me” and proceeded to abandon me after one session. Over all it’s interesting enough to keep the dedicated base invested, but I don’t like the dailies or lack of concrete progression/unlocks. I bought an island and farmed animals for a couple weeks, completed a corrupted dungeon a night, and promptly forgot it existed until you brought it up. The best part for me is how reminiscent the combat is of early league of legends, but that’s also a downside because it requires much more attention than I’m willing to give an mmo on a consistent basis. Thanks for shedding light on this coolio game idyl

[@Collinw3831]

“Albosoms online”😂 3:40

[@DeliciousHunterMD]

When I played Albion years ago it was incredibly pay-to-win, but in the sense that you had to pay in order to win. No amount of grinding was enough.

[@Pixelest001]

What are you talking about? You can only purchase gold for the game sure you can buy some higher tier gear but you don’t need it in any way and I regularly beat people in gear that is 2-3 tiers higher than my own.

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

@@Pixelest001Your own comment defeats your opinion.

[@emmanuelsampaio4687]

@@Real-Ruby-Red It's a full loot pvp game. Players don't mind (actually i'd say most enjoy) fighting whales and players in higher gear tiers because they are very profitable to kill and the difference in power between the tiers is not that high. If you fight whales in 8.4 gear 40 times (which is very rare sight btw) while you wear 8.0, you only need to win once to break even. Whales in albion mostly have a really bad time, since if you're not a decent player, no matter the gear you're wearing, you're just a loot pinãta.

[@ColorbIind]

@@Pixelest001 I'd like someone to find me an mmo where players don't purchase in game money lol. Sure the actual devs allow you to purchase in game money which is a pay to win offering, but lets be real, players would purchase in game money even if the devs didnt offer it. It is just something that will always exist in games like this, you will always have people farming in game currency and selling it for real world money

[@Get-mad-over-9000]

Albion is pay to win? LoL, try me then, lets go 1v1 with your 8.4 gear in the black zones, with my 8 flat gear and I'll show you the reason why Albion isn't pay to win.

[@Jendor_IV]

As a OSRS (3yr) player that moved to Albion it was funny watching your vid. I know exactly how your transition was. Albion has it all, worse camera movement, jankyer traversal, boring grinds, more pay-2-lose. The faction warfare discords are hella fun. And the guild structure is more meaningful than OSRS. And the best thing, no questing and spacebar pounding......

[@baska-]

This game would've been very good if it weren't for one big mistake: mobile compatibility. Back in 2017 when they decided the game had to be mobile compatible I knew it wouldn't be as good as it could.

[@itzajordan]

Can whoop people on pc with mobile combat😂

[@baska-]

@@itzajordan being good in a shit game is the same as being shit, sadly

[@TonySpumoni_]

damn dude the seinfield part *chefs kiss*

[@eikon7559]

Albion is not for everybody. You barelly scraped surface. It's a high demanding pvp game or pve with pvp involved. Basially Imagine you had only wilderness in osrs. Yeah you have blue/yellow/red areas where's there's limited pvp but it takes week or so to geow past that. Majority of time from mid to end game content are black zones with full drop enabled. If you want to do pve there, be on the look out for gangers. It's awesome for people who loves pvp, or like being on somewhat on edge durring pve. But most fun comes from group activities and fights. Stakes are high, therefore more fun to win.

[@LevDaVinci]

I've never spent so much time and effort developing my character in a MMORPG. This game truly changed my ways

[@IISeverusll]

The game is utter garbage. The devs have nerfed solo play into the ground and the community has no morals at all. Avoid like the plague.

[@BL00DYBUTTC0UGH]

Solo play?go play single player rpg instead of mmorpg

[@quartzteeth8429]

Lol

[@ottovmp]

Morals? Like, did someone kill you in a pvp zone? 😂

[@Tatuzka]

I'd be a lot more into Albion, if it actually had EU -server, cause the high ping in NA and especially Asia make PvP really hard.

[@SwoleBenji]

No, this game is terrible. You can literally get banned for pvping against their protected class of streamers.

[@questor3492]

Not you again

[@Richkenney33]

​@@questor3492lmao HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NEED TO TELL YOU, OLD MAN. Dude does this to every gaming community he's apart of. Toxic slag

[@conconcon500]

if you are stream sniping and intentionally harassing, then yes.

[@SwoleBenji]

@@conconcon500 It's not harassment it's playing the damn game.

[@chadblood7346]

If you're sniping, you should be banned.

[@majornougat5207]

There is no way i can ever get Albiboob Online out of my head again

[@pizzaspy9992]

dude back when i was just noob i was stuck in the starting desert area because i didn't want to leave the port or city

[@cpt_mookie]

Came for the review. Stayed because of the humor. Subscribed for the self deprecation. 11/10 channel.

[@goncaloferreira2952]

idk about albion, but im glad i found your youtube man. really apreciated the fun video and your sense of humor

[@BL00DYBUTTC0UGH]

I have more than 4000hrs , playing Albion with friends and guild vs playing solo is complete different experience , would 100% recommend joining social guild

[@pieTone]

Just a few things, pvp also exists in bz if you re flagged for faction ( and you encounter someone of a rival faction ) or you accept a duel. And.. you don t gain focus daily without premium

[@SilphBoss]

12:33 whoa that was a close one, almost had a complete existential thought!

[@LordZenGuard]

Every time I see a Albion Online add I'm like "oh hey this reminds me of Everquest" A free MMORPG released in 1999 and is still being updated to this day with new Expansions

[@itzajordan]

Everquest definitely beats this

[@ragtagsnipse1399]

Crafting in albion is the most important thing because without it, there would be no equippable items in the game. Every item you wear, besides the tier 1 items and tier 2 donkey the game gives you, was crafted by a player. The whole trading market is dictated all by players in each city's market, as well as the gold/silver market being influenced by the players as well. All this combines to create a true player driven sandbox world.

[@Fish4aDime]

i gave this game a chance about 3 weeks ago. i'm still having fun with the grind. what a surprise.

[@makorains7154]

if we could get a short mini series of you doing gameplay commentary that would be amazing

[@WPharolin]

Now that you mention it, even Black Desert Online doesn't start in a desert.

[@austintea]

I got an ad for Albion watching this, like im already watching a really long ad you dont need to give me another one

[@pumpkingeist]

You had me at "demon fang". I will not explain myself

[@ao_nesnes9052]

About Crafting: What is special about Albion as a Sandbox is that the whole economy is Player-driven, meaning that the game itself does not produce equipment (like armor or weapons) -> They are ALL player-crafted This is due to the Black Market (in Caerleon). When you loot an item out of a chest in a dungeon, you are not getting a game-generated item, but something that another player crafted and sold to the black market, which distributes those items throughout the world. (You can even see the crafter's name on the item) That is also how the system balances itself. The more players craft, the more loot there is and the less items are worth -> leading to people tending to do other content instead. If less people craft it, the value goes up, and loot becomes less, -> doing dungeons becomes less profitable and more players tend towards crafting again. Also what you mentioned about higher-level crafting: Most players don't craft every item they wear. Rather, they specialize in crafting certain items (which will in turn make it more efficient the higher your crafting spec is), they will buy-order the materials, craft en masse, and then sell it across different markets (which is also a thing because every city has a separate market) then they will buy whatever they need for themselves. Of course, there are many different ways to play the market, like Transporting between the cities, selling to the black market, manipulating market prices, investing into high-value items, but that would go into too much depth here What might still be worth mentioning: There are actually many players buying Premium with Silver, but it is hard to do for a new player. Investing and making money becomes easier the more you get to know the game, and the more silver you can spend on investments as well. There is no 1 way to make money though, everyone needs to find their own niche to profit from.

[@FernandoGarcia-mw9yt]

despite the apparently crazy cost in silver for premium, once you have premium you can actually relatively easily earn enough gold to buy premium each month through farming and crafting, so essentially premium becomes free by just playing. so my recomendation is do FTP for the first couple of months to get a good sense of the systems, then get premium for one month, and then you should be sailing free after that. Also, the whole "player based economy" is awesome. Albion is basically EvE online in a fantasy setting.

[@Xatrax]

The importance of crafting in albion is, everything is made by players, literally everything In Caerleon you have the black market, with is basically: When a player opens a chest, there is a 10% chance you get a Sword, if the black market have a Sword, yey you get a sword, if not, you don't get a sword, but he increase the price of that sword in the Black Market, so you can sell the sword to the game so the next time a person drops a sword, he gets a sword, made by you :D So everytime you get something from a chest or a mob that item was crafted by a player in some point, also when you die in a Red or Black Zone, there is a chance your gear explodes, so that keeps the demand for new stuff all the time, specially the high level gear so people can win more in PvP In a nutshell, you can make money either selling directly to players in the central market of every city, or risking a bit and selling it to the game via the Black Market Is the best crafting system i ever seen in a mmo, not becouse the system perce, but all the games systems working together so in some point somebody have to craft the stuff people is using

[@willprotector]

Albion is about keeping a high number of new players coming into the game so that they can be devoured by people who've played the game for years. Mega Guilds control all of the Black Zones and are constantly on the look out for gatherers. There's not really a way to dislodge these people because servers never reset. It is too much like the real world for my liking--but to each their own.

[@joshuas7911]

I love daily quests lol, more things to do, more exp, loot. Long as they aren’t to wild. Love seasonal quests, wow does fighting the headless horseman during October

[@noble7065]

I'd love to see him redo this review now that the Journal has been added. It has to be the best update for new players in years, possibly ever.

[@mathmalluf2129]

No mmo starts in a desert, ragnarok rogues starting in morroc: Am I a joke to you?

[@SolaireIntensifies]

Ironically Black Desert Online does not start in a desert.

[@alyasVictorio]

The way the combat system of Albion Online works is similar to moba combat system (which also my style of gameplay), which is why most moba players play this mmo game. But other than that, its "tier list" tier is alongside FF14, ESO, WoW, Warframe, Old School Runescape, EVE Online, and Black Desert Online, however, this tier still won't get into the higher tier that "Guild Wars 2" sitting for (I supposed to include Old School Runescape if it wasn't for its outdated combat type known as "tab targetting" 😅) specially its everything it had Edit: Anyway, can you please also try Guild Wars 2? If already made a video about this game, please give the video link