I remember being hauled into the Bishop’s office (at 12) for failing to pay my tithe. (My mother was excommunicated so I attended alone- which blows me away now as an adult.) But I had pointed out that my understanding that tithe was anonymous, so how did he know? And two where did it say I had to tithe TO the church? I had read that I only had to tithe 10% to those less fortunate. So I took my measly babysitting money and with my grandfather every Sunday we invited a homeless person to breakfast so they could eat and be treated like a human being, even if only for a meal. God knew I paid my tithe. I said where did the church open up and say openly THIS is where the money went. But when I was 12, the temple in San Diego opened. And I realized that our tithe went to a temple of opulence. And I was HORRIFIED. The Bishop could not give me an answer. But I knew I had been lied to.
@davidmikina96196 ай бұрын
did you leave?
@trishg_796 ай бұрын
@@davidmikina9619 I left at 14, but for a bigger reason. I was scolded for talking to another church member whom I noticed everyone ignored. When I was scolded again I told everyone in my YW/YM group why (when I was late) and we ALL walked out. Our ward didn’t have any teenagers for awhile.
@CultstoConsciousness Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing my video interview with you! This is such a great go-to for all the ways the church is causing harm in less than 3 hours. It was fun getting to know you! 🙏
@lindseyhendrix24055 ай бұрын
@bmk9844same! And I’ve binged so much content ever since!
@HighDesertJade Жыл бұрын
As a kid I had a deep veneration for the Catholic saints, for their endless love for humanity. Listening to John talk inspired me in the same way. I am sure I’m not the first to say this… canonize John Dehlin!!
@angelacollins1343 Жыл бұрын
I am a never Mormon and love the Mormon Stories podcast. I am incredibly impressed by the production quality of your show. And the depth and sensitivity of your many interviews. Superb work.
@ward26102 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Never a member of organized religion, I love this show. It has the best stories of humans finding their way in life. Great production quality. John and Margi are the most awesome people, I can't say enough good things. I'm uncertain why the channel doesn't have a million subscribers.
@SpeechTammy Жыл бұрын
Same! I love these guys. They are so relatable
@lianidri80 Жыл бұрын
Girl. I just found your podcast. You are awesome. DO NOT QUIT.
@CultstoConsciousness Жыл бұрын
🥰 thank you!!
@meander8884 Жыл бұрын
This is full of little gold nuggets, and collectively is one massive shiny gold nugget. So full of truth and so therapeutic. I wish all of my TBM family would be willing to watch it with open minds and hearts.
@leolindsey1929 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I totally agree! If they would only read objectively.
@marisalowe3177 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much. You've helped me feel like I'm not alone. I've been out of the church for almost 8 years and I'm still deconstructing. Keep doing what you guys do, you're amazing!!!
@patriciajessop2248 Жыл бұрын
I left the church ages ago because the leaders were authoritarian self righteous pricks..!! On the other hand John Dehlin is the nicest, kindest, understanding, sensible and most intelligent person EVER!! This YT channel MAKES ME HAPPY and PEACEFUL EVERY SINGLE DAY..!!! THANK YOU JOHN. !!!
@TheInstigator1026 Жыл бұрын
#3 The Power Of Women. 23:10 women, are you listening? "Indentured servitude" 💯 % Thank you, John! I appreciate you mentioning how we are, obviously, being treated as second-class citizens, in the church. "It's all about the power..."
@MKConnecticut Жыл бұрын
John, you are spot on- even for those of us who have never been Mormons. The questions you bring up re: Christianity … well done, awesome podcast
@ward26102 Жыл бұрын
"The holy grail of the human experience is finding a cause where you can alleviate suffering and promote joy to as many people as possible." ~John Dehlin. This brought tears to my eyes.
@lj952411 ай бұрын
What an awesome conversation between two amazing people. God bless you both🙏 Keep up the wonderful work to educate people about high demand religions.
@alishabee369 Жыл бұрын
This is the only platform I see your content. Thank you for reposting from your other sites!
@VictorRigoleFineArt Жыл бұрын
John mentioned the investments in the Ensign Peak fund would double in 7 years. That would happen if the church it getting on average a 10% return. You use the rule of 72 to determine how long it will take for your investment to double. Divide the interest rate into 72. This gives you the number of years it take for the funds to double. Even if the rate of return is around 7% it would take 10 years for the investments to double. Wow! If the Church does not put another dime into the Ensign Peak funds in 7-10 years they will have 300 Billion dollars they are saving for a rainy day! Glad I'm not giving them any more of my hard earned money! They don't need it. Great podcast/interview by the way!!
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification @Victor Rigole !!!
@lilatueller Жыл бұрын
Time stamp 2:42 I think it’s important to mention that formal church statements against child abuse DO NOT represent what actually happens on the ground in the church
@mrsmousling Жыл бұрын
Wonderful podcast. It is possible to have members leave the church and still figure it out and stay close as a family. My father left the church and as he even said at the time he was the highest level of church authority to ever leave the church and probably still is. My last name would still be quite recognizable across the south. My father was highly influential and it was a traumatic crisis in our family. There were a few difficult years. Some of my brothers are still active but we have managed to work it all out and stay very close. It is possible.
@rufussweeneymd Жыл бұрын
You’re so very close to 100k. Excited for you all!
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
Us too!
@11UncleBooker22 Жыл бұрын
Are those accurate numbers or are they fudging on the number of actual active members? 😋
@BlessYourHeart254 Жыл бұрын
As a proud atheist, I’m offended by the idea of someone doing any ritual in my name. It’s my life and right to believe (or not) bears no relation to the LDS or any church. I agree with John that it’s also a colossal waste of time. Also, any incantations hold no power, so they’re not sending me to an imagined afterlife. 🙄🙄🙄 How arrogant and narcissistic to think they have any right to insult me that way. Gives me eye roll injury.
@timhansen234 Жыл бұрын
The whole premise of fixing this church is such a complete farce. You could never get a complete set of lies to somehow become truth..
@unicorntamer2207 Жыл бұрын
In my official church resignation, I stated that I didn't want proxy temple work done in my name after I'm deceased. I doubt they'll honor my request, but they have it in writing.
@StayGreenBDifferent Жыл бұрын
Even if their rituals did something, it'd just lead to an afterlife Customer Service line rivaling the DMV of outraged people asking why they were yoinked from the rest they believe in (or don't). Very few would be grateful.
@charlesmendeley9823 Жыл бұрын
OMG!!!! 100k!!! Congratulations, John, Margi & team 🥳🎉
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! 🎊
@Bluebirdray Жыл бұрын
2 years of total service to build up a communities needs.
@DizzyME138 ай бұрын
I could watch more videos just like this for hours! I really enjoy episodes that kind of go down a list of topics within the church and explain the background of a policy, how the policy is currently treated, and how it needs to be implemented now. ✌️
@kassystuart8874 Жыл бұрын
I need to watch the lamanites series. My dad is indigenous costa rican & I was raised in Utah. The story of the girl raised in the PNW hits my soul. I understand this so much. I actually recently shared something on my social media stories & an old friend from high school told me the church doesn't believe that 🤦🏽♀️. How the hell can you be raised in & continue to live in the church & not acknowledge the damage?
@DrSandraGSmith Жыл бұрын
Keep going, John! You help so many! Thank you!
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@StephRivera Жыл бұрын
2:30:32 I'm so sorry John. Being shunned like that must be so painful. It's one thing to be excommunicated but I think family is even more difficult. I hope they will soon have a change of heart. I think we all have special people in our lives who we want to be close with but the church beliefs get in the way. You have a family here that sees you.
@MonasticSolace Жыл бұрын
I didn't learn about the connection between Mormonism and Freemasonry until 2017. I am 43. I've been a member my entire life. I was shocked. Joseph Smith organized a masonic lodge of 1500 LDS men in Nauvoo. Why is this not taught in church history classes at church owned schools? This is a pretty major part of LDS church history.
@echomikekilo63 Жыл бұрын
John, I can't get the tragic story of that family in Utah (murder/suicide) out of my head. I have SO many questions. How does this happen in a small, tight-knit, religious community where everybody knows everybody's business? Who knew what and did nothing? I just heard a report that Dad had previously been investigated for child abuse. Nothing came of it, and given the details, maybe there wasn't enough for police to charge him with criminally; BUT, I doubt it was an isolated incident. I've been out of the church for decades (40 years!), but listening to your podcasts, it seems little has changed. I guess my biggest question is: Was the family (in particular, the wife) told to keep police out of it and let the church sort it out via their own religious interventions/counsel? Or, more to the point: is it plausible that families are being told to leave the secular world out of their business and let the church 'handle it'?
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
Great questions @Lisa Kuzma !!!!
@melody71164 ай бұрын
This is right on I am so sorry for all of the suffering I relate and it is refreshing and therapeutic, sad as it is
@BlessYourHeart254 Жыл бұрын
Digging caffeinated, ranting John! 👏👏👏
@amazinmaven Жыл бұрын
He's had a lot of practice distilling the major problems into easy-to-understand soundbites for sure!
@vlong5537 Жыл бұрын
Mormon Stories is going to have 200k subscribers by year-end. Impressive! Thanks for all you do.
@sandaroocompilations51826 ай бұрын
This is one of the best Mormon Stories episodes. I wish John were the prophet, the world would be a better place.
@tylerzika Жыл бұрын
6:02 honesty with what missionaries teach is what has had me struggling. They need to make a Restoration clip that they show to investigators with Joseph’s head in a hat. It feels like bearing false witness if they don’t.
@user-bw3fl7fj9w10 ай бұрын
I joined the church before the Internet and KZbin, etc... always JS was talked and shown with the plates....no mention of a rock ( the same one that failed to show him treasures, from what I've seen on KZbin) and a hat!! Now, they do mention it as well, he did it both ways and acting like it was always known....known maybe to a selected few, who didn't mention it to new investigators, members!?
@singsongvideolover Жыл бұрын
You both are doing wonderful and immeasurable work! Thank you! Please be well
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@CultstoConsciousness Жыл бұрын
Thank you Kristina!❤
@marlenabryant554711 ай бұрын
Great episode! I loved it!
@nicolewade1608 ай бұрын
I could listen to John talking all day/night long. Him & wife Margie are so calming, intelligent & kind. I was raised Mormon until 15 & realize I knew nothing abt reality.
@brianmcdermott629 Жыл бұрын
It frustrates me that I graduated high-school in 2005 but that I had no idea Mormon Stories existed back then. If I had known, it could have saved me from a world of hurt/shame/heartache from having grown up in an orthodox Mormon household/society in rural southeastern Idaho. Please keep doing what you’re doing, John, you’ve helped me immensely!
@rebeccawright2987 Жыл бұрын
The YW Pres. I served with said priesthood needed to come with us to girls camp so they could manage the campfires. I pointed out that I'm a leader and I know how to start/manage camp fires. So she added the reason of "and if anyone needs a priesthood blessing they need to be there" lol 😂
@janasunnarborg85257 ай бұрын
I've been watching Mormon Stories Podcast for awhile now. I am seeing this episode about a year after it originally aired. Very interesting to hear what John really thinks about the Mormon church. Listening to this is giving me a better perspective on what my own church was really all about. To put it nicely, my kids and I were treated very differently by the people of our church after I ended up having to divorce my ex-husband because he had become physically abusive. He was from a highly "favored" family in the church. Their main message was that it could not have been his fault that he broke my jaw. This was a very devastating message for my kids and also for me. The church people were merciless. They hurt us. We were not officially excommunicated but clearly no one wanted us around anymore and we did not want to be around that type of heartlessness. It was shocking for me to discover exactly how shallow these people and their so called faith actually were. I am very wary of any "organized" religion therefore. I have not given up my faith but churches are now religions, or only represent a shell of uprightness for me. 20 years later I took my now adult daughter to visit her dad's mom, her Grandma. These people never got it. Her Grandma actually said she wished she had fought for custody and raised my kids herself. The point they never realized is no one from my ex-husbands family would have been granted custody by the state we lived in because of the horrible affidavits they wrote about how I was as a mom. They were so blind, they were and are still not aware that the state child protective services would not ever award any of them custody and they would never be eligible to become foster parents either because of what they wrote! They are still not aware that what they consider to be correct child rearing is not in any way acceptable. They revealed their own bias by their own written word. I fought for and won, didn't feel like a win at the time, sole physical and sole legal custody because of what they wrote. The entire process was devastating to me and my kids.
@zjaneg Жыл бұрын
Rethink this+ “You lose your morality? “ I know your strong inner compass has led you to expose these untruths…You are a trail blazer and are brave. Your moral core cannot be related to the Mormon experience… it is agonizing to leave your community. But you are helping so many of us.
@cherrybakewell1338 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous interview and interviewee 🕊💌
@CultstoConsciousness Жыл бұрын
😁🙏
@friezenfan Жыл бұрын
If John wasn't still making these videos where would mormons go if they are doubting thing. I believe that John and mormon stories have helped allot of people leave this cult. John you keep going, you are doing great
@bethowens8863 Жыл бұрын
I find the whole notion of missions quite conflicting. On the one hand, I think proselytizing by religion is wrong since it's basically trying to form a relationship with someone with an ulterior motive. But at the same time, getting to experience another culture, learning a new language, and getting out of your comfort zone is amazing. It's unfortunate there's not much emphasis on the value of this in the U.S., like there is in other countries. In New Zealand, it's a rite of passage to spend a few years working and traveling abroad, almost in the same way that young Mormon men do missions. Yet many Americans see travel or working holidays as self-indulgent and a complete waste of time. So as much as I really don't like missions, I don't know if I'd want to take that experience from people, either.
@nicolewade1608 ай бұрын
The missionaries are DEF not treated like it’s an optional time to explore & work
@BrigitteDiessl Жыл бұрын
Woohoo! 100K! CONGRATULATIONS!
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
Yay! Thank you!
@melody71164 ай бұрын
Thank you for this I’ve been unfortunately quite familiar, and am so grateful for your work
@joanteasdale2991 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I am a non-believer
@slconley Жыл бұрын
Such a great episode!
@BlueEyesBrittany7 ай бұрын
If we, women, could change the way men treat us..... we have kind of given up ..... this is why i married an invisible man, the best of all men. He never treats me badly, he loves me tenderly, he is always by my side and he will never never beat me up, look down on me, and will remain faithful till the end ......; I love my invisible man always by my side.
@fegrace_1 Жыл бұрын
This was a wonderful talk. I am fairly new to this channel, has John ever shared his full story? I know bits and pieces after watching a few videos but I would truly like to hear more. I will go back to his first videos to see if he shared his story.
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
Maven here: John has been in the interview seat a few times and shared his story. Usually it's just John but recently both he AND his wife Margi were interviewed by Kattie and Alan Mount from the Marriage on a Tightrope podcast here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmXZmImMrMh-nq8
@fegrace_1 Жыл бұрын
@@mormonstories Thanks, I will check out the link.
@nicolewade1608 ай бұрын
GREAT Question!!!
@BG-ig6fd Жыл бұрын
So many of the wrongs of the LDS church are the same ones that exist in all organized religions, and in society in general. We still live in a fiercely patriarchal world. Thank you, John, for your words about women. It is refreshing to hear them from a white male.
@DeanneSanchez-q8u7 ай бұрын
I did that , I drank coffee for years and did not feel guilty 😊😊😊
@MaggieMaeMatt Жыл бұрын
I think this might be at the top of my list for your podcasts. I think you should issue a card that is similar to an article of faith lists of these points. I don’t look to have these conversations with BTMs but I want to be prepared if I am approached by someone that knows I’m a person they can approach. (But I’m old and with all these long podcasts I don’t retain everything!). Someone please make a business card!!
@SpeechTammy Жыл бұрын
I love Shelise!! ❤
@areyoulivingthelifeofyourdream Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Question: In the eyes of a believing orthodox mainstream member of the church is there any way for someone to leave the church with their dignity intact?
@JP-JustSayin Жыл бұрын
It is a good question ... and historically there has been no real functional answer. The church has never had any framing for a valid way that someone can be a non-member (or an ex-member). There is just no template for that in the mormon mind. The brethren should think about creating one.
@user-bw3fl7fj9w10 ай бұрын
Yes, and that they don't undo your Temple work for you (and your family).. I get that it's probably not really necessary.... But, it bothers me as I spent alot of tithing money and costs to get to the temple and lining up friends to help....so, I'd never leave volunteer to undo something that at a time meant enough to me to do it.. besides, Jesus doesn't undo a blessing! I could understand that you lose your current temple recommend status....but, temple work done years ago should not be undone..
@googleuser5663 Жыл бұрын
I wish someone started a spin off of the Mormon church but with the right principles fixing all the issues like keep tithing but yearly share dividends from the investments to the contributing members, and other issues discussed here, I love some of the values of the church like the family values but the church is some ways still stuck in the 1950's
@elevin8858Ай бұрын
In the time of the Judges, there was Devorah who was a judge. The men ask her to lead them in battle but she warns them everyone will say a woman won the battle.
@valerienelson3296 Жыл бұрын
I was born into being Russian Orthodox, When my best friend was gay in high scholl I went to the father and asked back in the 90's why God couldn't love him and was told it wasnt a sin, only to act on it, which he had. That where my crises began. I also knew there are many parts of the world that dont know Jesus so couldnt believe they would not be allowed in heaven. As I grew up to many things just made no sense for a loving creator.
@darwinspeacock6 ай бұрын
This is just Mormon to not Mormon. And that’s enough. You are enough. 💜
@BlessYourHeart254 Жыл бұрын
This exclusion from temple rituals isn’t done even in many strict evangelical southern churches. They want people coming IN since that’s the way to get potential new members. I have evangelical family members and can attend a service, a Christmas program, a wedding, supper, or whatever. Out of respect, I don’t participate in their rituals however. These churches know that exclusion is the exact OPPOSITE of how to win converts.
@Geoplanetjane Жыл бұрын
No other Church has temples, Temple ceremonies, much less keeps outsiders away from any kind of service or ceremony. That’s why you haven’t observed any other churches excluding non-members from the temples-because they don’t have them.
@Rainbow_Indigo22 күн бұрын
Hi John hope you are good shalise I can tell how excited you are
@charlesmendeley9823 Жыл бұрын
Will there be a 100k celebration episode?
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@dawne2780 Жыл бұрын
1:35:00 Murder isn’t even specified! It’s “denying the Holy Ghost.” If I’m not mistaken murder still doesn’t break the second anointing as long as you didn’t deny the Holy Ghost in the process.
@lizzie9125 Жыл бұрын
D&C 132:27- The blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which shall not be forgiven in the world nor out of the world, is in that ye commit murder wherein ye shed innocent blood, and assent unto my death, after ye have received my new and everlasting covenant, saith the Lord God; and he that abideth not this law can in nowise enter into my glory, but shall be damned, saith the Lord.
@kathalloran5828 Жыл бұрын
From a converts point of view many of us already realize that most of it isn't true but it's larger history - kinderhook plates, massacres that type of thing requires research and can still shock. I still went back at a later stage after finding all of that out. I never tithed but I did give my time and sometimes my gifts or small amounts of money given directly. Obviously LGBTQ issues and race issues were disturbing to me and realising that some vulnerable people were being manipulated for tithing etc. I think people who have grown up in the church have a whole different set of issues which it's easy for many converts like myself to sweep away and not understand because we haven't been brainwashed as children. We are never looking with the same eyes. We are somewhat removed and just exploring another culture/community. I did family history work but no baptisms for dead ( ridiculous!) The 'prophet' was just a poetic way of saying leader and so on. Service missions are a great idea .
@lianidri80 Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview
@livehealthyfinishstrong Жыл бұрын
John is to the Mormon church what Martin Luther was to the Roman Catholic Church.
@kaybeemoafrika Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to learn that LDS is sending missionaries to Africa given their history with racism. I'm afraid many African people are not aware of this and maybe they don't even know that this church is a cult. We need an interview with some of the African ex-morm members.
@lizzie9125 Жыл бұрын
@2:02:19 is giving Steve Rogers vibes, "I can do this all day."
@mfleopold Жыл бұрын
This is such a wonderful podcast. But any organized Christian church in America has at least some of these issues.
@DeanneSanchez-q8u7 ай бұрын
Johns got my vote 😊
@bethgriffith4479 Жыл бұрын
as soon as you asked the most shocking thing he’s heard I was like SECOND ANNOINTING! 😂 Validating to know that’s what he listed too.
@Zodiacalesotericmatrix Жыл бұрын
John, it's always too harsh, and no, you've never gone too far.
@BG-ig6fd Жыл бұрын
It is interesting to learn about the 2015 policy regarding LGBTQ people and their children. It is horrifying to me that such strong discrimination would be made as recently as 7-8 years ago. Why would living life as a homosexual be a worse offence than murder or abusing children, et al? For me, it is easy to explain when you consider what is the biggest goal of all dominant, organized religious organizations: To grow in numbers. More numbers equals more power and more money. It is the same base goal of any business. THIS (in my opinion) is also the explanation for the subjugation of women in all the major religions on the planet. If they can convince or force women to accept being breeders as their primary goal in life, then it equals larger numbers of members. Just like the Catholic church stance against abortion, even when the mother’s life is at risk. It makes sense when you realize their most primary goal is more members. In Québec before the “Tranquil Revolution”, couples weren’t allowed to use contraception. So 16-20 babies per woman. Even when the doctor said “no more babies or you will die”, the priests would come around and tell these couples they must continue to procreate. A death sentence. We see this same evilness when it comes to 10-11 year old girls being raped and forced to go through pregnancy and childbirth. Basically, female lives are not valued. Or, the only value they see in female worth is their ability to procreate. My question is when will women wake up to this and demand change? MLK Jr. was absolutely correct that power is never relinquished voluntarily.
@kerstinklenovsky239 Жыл бұрын
Have you interviewed Matthew and Christine yet, of Faith Talks?
@burnsalis3722 Жыл бұрын
Hi John!! Can you make à video about Melchizedek priestood?? Does the bible tells us that we must have the Melchizedek priestood in order to enter into god's kingdom?
@janeenhansen5119 Жыл бұрын
I am a Mormon woman, and I do not feel like I am not as good or as important as my husband, we are equal.
@twistedtaurus19796 ай бұрын
I love this guy❤️
@SamanthaShelley Жыл бұрын
Duplicating content just hurts the original video’s algorithmic ranking. Better to share their video on your community tab and let them get all the views!
@SamanthaShelley Жыл бұрын
Unless this is something different in which case ignore me lol
@danielpolatis1557 Жыл бұрын
John is trying to destroy the church why ?
@laneshoemaker7189 Жыл бұрын
@@danielpolatis1557 “If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth.” -Carl Sagan. In all honesty, John’s goal as an activist is to change & improve all the harm & falsehoods in Mormonism so it’s a safe place for every person & family. It’s never been safe for everyone to join or stay so he advocates for full transparency & informed consent about the history & doctrine, and for changes to make the doctrine & culture more ethical.
@sammiller4321 Жыл бұрын
@@laneshoemaker7189 The problem with quotes and slogans is Majority of the time most people never seem to apply them to there own beliefs systems or organizations in which they might support. I believe that the Mormon stories podcast needs to do some self reflection in many instances.
@Zelph_undying Жыл бұрын
@@danielpolatis1557 By suggesting they apologize for the bad things they've done and treat people better moving forward? If that destroys "the church," then that doesn't sound like a very good church.
@Cocoon68 Жыл бұрын
Well don’t feel bad John! I’m 68 years old next month (sounds familiar?) but never knew about polyandry and the younger girls that Joseph Smith manipulated into marriage.. There was some years I was not active and actually lived the other side of mormonism but minus those it’s like 45 years of being actively involved.. CES letter led me to the Gospel topics essays and then the shock of what I learned left me feeling deceived and now I have zero trust in this church that hid this from its members
@joanteasdale2991 Жыл бұрын
So deplorable and so disgusting How could a church do this to human beings and they did it anyway totally disgusting
@chloecagle64939 ай бұрын
I would also add that it’s totally okay to disagree with viewing pornography for your own reasons. My partner and I do not do it because we personally view it as infidelity (and the thought of him getting off on another woman’s body makes me so sad, which I think is totally fair) along with some ethical and objectification concerns. But that’s the thing, those are logical and personal reasons, and a decision that we made together - not out of religious dogma and shame. And I think that’s the importance of open, honest education - people make decisions that truly feel best for them rather than just agreeing to it because they have to. I think when we withhold education in that way, people actually make worse decisions for them, like you said, because they’re not well informed.
@StephRivera Жыл бұрын
38:42 - I wonder if any child actually "denounced their parents' same-sex marriage" and was baptized after that policy change. And now how old would they be? If they were 8 back then, they would be 16 now. In a couple years it would be interesting to interview a family who was directly impacted by that.
@NebjosaMeier Жыл бұрын
I think the church should change focus, after admitting its past focus was wrong and superficial.
@fatemeetsluck Жыл бұрын
John Dehlin is a modern religious genius in the tradition of Martin Luther.
@StephenSmith-qc3xx11 ай бұрын
That's like saying Hitler was the Ghandi of his time.
@jeanettehurley3214 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@andreapaul2818 Жыл бұрын
Do you think they will ever change or get rid of the word of wisdom?
@CultstoConsciousness Жыл бұрын
I hope so!
@JP-JustSayin Жыл бұрын
Emma: Hey Joseph, cleaning up the brethren's tobacco mess is a drag. How about you go get a revelation about that? Joseph: OK... I will see what I can do. Joseph (later): Hey Emma, I have good news and bad news. The good news is no more tobacco for the brethren... the bad news is no more tea parties or coffee klatches for the sisters. How do ya like them apples?
@charlesmendeley9823 Жыл бұрын
They changed so much in the temple, they might as well change this one.
@UTBanjo Жыл бұрын
My neighbors. I can't drink that tea. Next day sucking down hot chocolate. Every other day in line fr Fizz/Swig/etc.
@gorditogordito8729 Жыл бұрын
I recognized the falsehood of mormonism of my parents forty years ago and returned to the Christian heritage of my ancestors. John, does the traditional Christian worship not appeal to you? Protestant or Roman Catholic?.
@patclark1622 Жыл бұрын
@ 2.41 Not the nose - it's not crooked - perfectly fine.
@joanteasdale2991 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God I can't believe it's already did that saying your skin with get whiter spiritual you became good God who instructed these people it certainly wasn't God
@barbhalfhide8 ай бұрын
What do you think is at the root of your "top 10" ex-Mormon detractors' viciousness?
@jpenir Жыл бұрын
I wish TBMs would stop denying Joseph was a polygamist
@ritae53168 ай бұрын
Jehovah's Witness' denial of history is so similar
@ArtsyTartsy0 Жыл бұрын
You have it wrong John... the Bible says that God created us perfect (in his image) and Satan caused the Fall which made us dirty in Gods eyes, but He loves us so much that He gives us a simple out by sending Jesus who put mankinds sin upon himself and died for us so we can have everlasting life in Heaven with God (and Jesus). So He didnt create us as sinners we became sinners. Anyway.....love your channel!
@joanteasdale2991 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God your skin return lighter what the hell
@luannwinters9345 Жыл бұрын
I’m very disappointed that I already saw this video on another platform. Why repeat it?
@mormonstories Жыл бұрын
I like to keep a record of my own content in a single feed. Sorry for the annoyance @Lu Ann Winters.
@luannwinters9345 Жыл бұрын
No annoyance, I just thought it would be something new, but this is such an amazing episode that it is worth repeating and listening to again. I appreciate all you do John.
@amazinmaven Жыл бұрын
Not all viewers of this channel follow all the other channels John works with, so if they didn't get put up here, many wouldn't see it at all.
@davidharrington8118 Жыл бұрын
Please stand up for the rights of kids born into the principle of plural marriage?? They can not be baptized and openly support there parents
@wildgiver9922 Жыл бұрын
Whoa
@bellanewfie Жыл бұрын
If I could i would cancel the LDS church for good.
@DovahkiinScythe8 ай бұрын
Truth be told if you're gonna bash the LDS church OWN IT. Don't start apologizing by 53:03. It's insincere and insults LDS member's intelligence.
@kathymunsee64687 ай бұрын
Love the nan
@kathymunsee64687 ай бұрын
MAN
@flutterbybird132 ай бұрын
🦋🦋🦋
@nicolewade1608 ай бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@michellewilkinson3524 Жыл бұрын
If the mormon church cleaned up all this crap, there wouldn't be anything left... 🤷♀️
@susancaldwell1752 Жыл бұрын
And that's exactly why the church will never ever apologize, they know it would be the end of the church. Although they will also decline inevitably with other religions, it would be much faster if they apologized