If you can’t grapple you don’t know how to fight - sad this still needs to be said in 2022

No matter how good you think your striking is, if you don’t know how to grapple, you don’t know how to fight. A mediocre grappler can absolutely squash a high level striker who doesn’t know how to grapple. Why limit yourself?
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[@madkoster]

I'm a grappler, but the same applies to grapplers that have no striking skills

[@kbaptiste28]

80% of fights go to the ground but 100% of fights start on the feet.

[@yusufhussain5663]

@@kbaptiste28 source: trust me bro

[@kbaptiste28]

@@yusufhussain5663 am I wrong ya freaking dork?

[@yusufhussain5663]

@@kbaptiste28 hahaha someones mad

[@chessshorts6019]

@@yusufhussain5663 damn y'all are mad cringe

[@tommygigg3500]

Hey Ramsey, if you were rolling with a six limbed creature like Goro from Mortal Kombat how would guard passing work? Would his second pair of arms work like a second pair of legs? Would you have to pass guard twice to get to full mount? Thanks.

[@rosch448]

cool question !

[@y200sub]

If you grapple against Goro, and assuming he is just as strong as you, you are basically defeated from the get go even if you somehow manage to pass his guard, he still has two on one grips on both sides, no wasy jiu jitsu is gonna work against him

[@tommygigg3500]

@@y200sub Yeah, and even if you do manage to armbar him and actually hyperextend his elbow, he's still left with more arms than you. But striking isn't the way to go either since he can simultaneously cover up while throwing punches. I'm guessing that a heel hook is the only thing that has a shot at working.

[@rosch448]

i might be wrong but i think ramsey already answered this question 🤔😅 but cant remember when

[@RamseyDewey]

There’s a reason Goro was champion of Mortal Kombat for hundreds of years. Even a normal sized guy with two sets of functional arms like that would be a huge problem in all facets of fighting. In grappling, you’re best bet would be to avoid the front of the body at all costs, and attack the back. Passing the closed guard would require Goro to make stupid mistakes. Passing a butterfly guard, knee shield type of guard, other open guard on the ground- same. Rubber guard with 4 arms? Forget about it. Shoulder pin guard? You’re basically dead already. Passing guard from standing- now you have a chance. But once you get to side control or mount, Goro could do silly stuff with those extra arms you’d never trained for to reverse position or even strangle you while you’re on top. Man, Shokan BJJ would be so interesting if those guys were real.

[@josephbedwell3164]

You learn how to punch to protect yourself from a punch. You learn how to kick to protect yourself from kicks. So why wouldn't you learn how to grapple to protect yourself from grappling?

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

Hey, don’t be going around making sense on the internet, the internet is for nonsense and shenanigans 👍

[@bluedonkey180]

@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 lol

[@mortalkomment8028]

Actually, if you fight a boxer you better grapple or kick instead of trying to box the boxer. I'm not gonna grapple if I'm a great striker. I'd avoid the ground like lava.

[@josephbedwell3164]

@@mortalkomment8028 exactly. But you still learn how to punch so you can defend yourself against a punch. Knowing the punches also means knowing how to protect yourself from them.

[@FreebyrdFayelanx]

Because he's saying grappling beats all striking. Which he may believe but then what's the other side if the coin - or are you saying grappling is superior?

[@tyronechillifoot5573]

There's a reason why every single culture has a form of grappling grappling is universal in hand to hand combat

[@dukenukem2214]

out of curiosity, which culture's hand to hand combat does not use striking?

[@tyronechillifoot5573]

@@dukenukem2214 not codified striking

[@jonahpatton8879]

Most of them, Europeans were the ones to start boxing. Striking with an empty hand isn't the best way to hurt someone.

[@astonprice-lockhart7261]

@@jonahpatton8879 A good point. Traditional arts tend to have a lot different ways to strike especially palm strikes.

[@dukenukem2214]

@@jonahpatton8879 sorry but this factually false in any sense. I am quite convinced that striking is used in pretty much every culture or country. So please just name so I can research whether or not this country's e.g. military is indeed unaware of how a punch works. ", Europeans were the ones to start boxing" This is were things get weird. If with boxing you mean modern boxing (otherwise you are on the wrong continent), are you stating that prior to recent years no human anywhere in the world came to the idea to punch and kick? This is easy to disprove with not only asian martial arts but also ancinet depictions of people boxing all over the world. "Striking with an empty hand isn't the best way to hurt someone." Well yea. (strictly speaking also grappling isn't but that's not important). Ramsey is surely correct but let's not make ridiculous claims in the comments.

[@Reithierion]

also, if you only know grappling, you're not a complete fighter

[@Steel8Tesla]

As someone who only trains grappling, I agree.

[@LosHitman]

To be a well rounded fighter you need to learn grappling, striking, and self defense

[@Jordanthecool7]

Ofc but I believe the whole point of the video was to show that grappling is equally as important as striking . Because most people don’t like grappling or think it doesn’t work

[@Reithierion]

@@Jordanthecool7 Really? I thought BJJ was the most popular martial art in 2022...If not, then yes get a rollin!

[@Jordanthecool7]

@@Reithierion idk I feel like it’s still boxing, at least where I’m from all of people that’s all they know about is boxing and not other martial arts . At least from my personal experience . One day their was an event that I went to and me and my friends was trying to practice a bit of grappling and these kids called it all types of names , and their exact words were “ you guys should just box” , because someone had brought boxing gloves . They don’t understand any other style of fighting than boxing. And it’s like that with almost everyone I speak too. Ironically the one guy that agreed that grappling is important is someone who trains in boxing , he been boxing for a few years now too

[@BurntToast44242]

I will add however if you're already a great striker, you only need a little bit of grappling to absolutely destroy the guy who dumped all his stats into grappling. A tiny bit of defensive grappling goes a long way. Now, of course, a complete fighter would dominate specialist any day, so train everything if you can.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Exactly!

[@vaughnordakowski8774]

A guy who dumped all his stats into grappling should easily be able to takedown someone that did a "little bit of grappling." A phenomenal striker with competent grappling, like high level high school wrestling or a blue belt in bjj, is more about leveled.

[@ailediablo79]

Exactly bro i agree a 100% In the ring yes most likely , outside of the ring No, . Where especially a weapon can be used a sharp or smashy or guns or throwing things at the targets, no grambling doesn't cut it alone. Anyway some grabbing is ,needed for sticking. Just grap the hair or fingers or balls or throat or bite or go for the eyes or a combination or all and grabbing would fall on it is own especially when it gets on the ground. Plus in real life fight outside of sports going to the ground is the last thing especially when you are outnumbered or potentially gets outnumbered. UFC is just a sport, no more no less. The one that has a better trade of profomuse balanceed higher score ones. Psychology, physicality and knowledge ,and u have in middle experience and muscle memory that binds the triangle coners together, what wins fights. Thus, with being more monster violent and crazy sametime being cool inside making right judgment useing human brain and instincts and have a decent skills you can with confidence win any fight against anyone. you just need to be a psychopath and have a higher transiting psychology and confidence and love death and don't care. As Yamamoto Musashi and Khaled son of alwaleed said " fight as if you are already dead ". Also Khalid once said "I will bring you Men love death more than you love life.". Be death itself and none would dear to fight you. With controled high anger and seriousness you can achieve easier and higher levels of muscle fiber use % and sharper chemicals and sharper muscle memory by triaging the survival instincts of humans to it is possible max. It is alot of bost like a superhuman.

[@bs1355]

@AileDiablo Eye gouging, biting, etc. is not only ineffective, but the grappler can also do it to you. I promise you, a competitive BJJ blue belt will wreck anyone their own size with no grappling experience, regardless of ruleset.

[@mrod8578]

@@ailediablo79 I would say outside the ring in a street fight where you don't know what could happen (especially with people around) you would want to stay on your feet and be as mobile as possible. Striking can actually have much more application in such scenarios where grappling and taking a man to the ground is not ideal. Striking, staying mobile, and looking for other threats while looking for an escape route would favor stand up hit and move over hard grappling.

[@russianundead5532]

Absolutely. And to add a layer on top of that - if you don't know how to grapple in clothes (gi/kurtka/suit/whatever) you will be defeated by someone who does. You won't believe how many wrestlers are (at least at first) dumbfounded by a lapel grip.

[@a_thousand_words]

As someone who only does No-gi, I agree

[@davidinawe791]

But a gi is a lot different than a T-shirt f.e.. how much would such experience help in such a case?

[@omarkusturica3174]

@@a_thousand_words I agree as well. Just the other day I was telling someone about gi and no gi, and suddenly he caught me very efficiently by my winter jacket lol :D Turns out that he trained at judo.

[@justin8865]

@@davidinawe791 sure a t-shirt isn't that great and would tear, but that's where nogi comes in. I would argue in colder weather with heavier tougher clothing Gi grips would work better.

[@russianundead5532]

@@davidinawe791 John Danaher has a good instructional about this. In short - a flimsy t-shirt (or any other clothing) will have no effect as it rips easily, a sturdy t-shirt can be grabbed by the collar and used to create kuzushi

[@walterevans2118]

Well, to be fair, in the early MMA arena that's exactly what happened with Royce Gracie taking down strikers & totally taking over & ruling the scene.

[@ailediablo79]

In the ring yes most likely , outside of the ring No, . Where especially a weapon can be used a sharp or smashy or guns or throwing things at the targets, no grambling doesn't cut it alone. Anyway some grabbing is ,needed for sticking. Just grap the hair or fingers or balls or throat or bite or go for the eyes or a combination or all and grabbing would fall on it is own especially when it gets on the ground. Plus in real life fight outside of sports going to the ground is the last thing especially when you are outnumbered or potentially gets outnumbered. UFC is just a sport, no more no less. The one that has a better trade of profomuse balanceed higher score ones. Psychology, physicality and knowledge ,and u have in middle experience and muscle memory that binds the triangle coners together, what wins fights. Thus, with being more monster violent and crazy sametime being cool inside making right judgment useing human brain and instincts and have a decent skills you can with confidence win any fight against anyone. you just need to be a psychopath and have a higher transiting psychology and confidence and love death and don't care. As Yamamoto Musashi and Khaled son of alwaleed said " fight as if you are already dead ". Also Khalid once said "I will bring you Men love death more than you love life.". Be death itself and none would dear to fight you. With controled high anger and seriousness you can achieve easier and higher levels of muscle fiber use % and sharper chemicals and sharper muscle memory by triaging the survival instincts of humans to it is possible max. It is alot of bost like a superhuman.

[@ailediablo79]

@@gotzdien1384 it doesn't change the fact it is just a sport and they are not as good as actual warriors in history like such as Samurais or Knights or Spartans in all fields of skill or muscle memory or physicality or psychology. They are not as good as they could be. Plus that was not my main point.

[@gotzdien1384]

@@ailediablo79 You do know that warfare like martial arts has developed right ? In that case you gotta compare current soldiers to soldiers/warriors before that time. Those guys weren't some vagabonds who fought just for fun but had actual duties and task beyond fighting not to mention that they fought in armies where strategy preperation logistics, morale as well as army size and organized training had much more of an impact than just fighting spirit and muscle memory. They were people who served under a lord or a country. And those fighters are as good as they can be or you end up like DK Yoo with his warfare combat system which is just scam and probably will end up dead. But if you wanna go that route what about soldiers who also fight profesionally? Also what is main your point exactly please?

[@ailediablo79]

@@gotzdien1384 the main point starking is more important and powerful than grabbing where starking as well needs some grabbing. combat systems reaach max point in 18th century. After 1700 all we doing is mixing and arranging them and copy the people of the past. Hand to hand and non gun weapons combat is at a better state before than today. The physicality, psychology and amount of training even just an average knight has that noone of the modern day can be compared too. That is that there is better Warriors in Europe itself during knight era whim better than knights and other warriors in history also better than knights. You has misconceptions.

[@walterevans2118]

@@ailediablo79 Yes of course...Sport & Street are different danger levels requiring different tools....& the more dangerous the environment the greater the need for ECONOMY to DECISIVE TARGET. Whether on the ground or upright. UFC fighters muscle memory train their reflexes to hit knockout but non crippling targets whereas Original JKD people would have acutely trained their reflexes for instant stopping targets...Sports fighters would have to go though a lengthy re adjustment to be efficient at Original JKD.

[@ishaqhussain2319]

What I'm taking in is that in order to AVOID grappling and wrestling (as a striker) you must KNOW grappling and wrestling, correct me if I am wrong Ramsey? And only then when you know grappling your striking can become effective (because then you could learn better takedown defense to avoid grappling) hence why this video tells us that we must know grappling to fight. Only when you know enough grappling your striking can be enabled, or at least that is what my understanding is but please tell me if I am wrong.

[@RamseyDewey]

Yep. Basically that.

[@mcdick1621]

yes literally. if your takedown defense is ass you have exactly one opportunity with each exchange to drop your opponent or else he will more likely than not clinch or shoot for takedown and you will either get subbed, tko'd or lose the rounds by points. and knowing that obviously makes the striker way way more insecure in going all out and being aggressive. grappling kinda is a one way ticket to downtown if you dont know atleast how to grapple defensively. its so weird that superb grappling sometimes even compensates someones lack of striking. ben askren for example is probably as good of a striker as your average fitness boxer and yet managed to go 19/2 as a professional fighter. khabib went 29/0 and if you watch his early fights his striking especially also wasnt really refined. in my opinion a basic grasp of grappling really is simply necessary for you to deploy any other techniques without hesitation or fear in your mind which ultimately means you can play more into your strenghts (i.e your superior striking). john danaher for example talks about this concept in the sphere of grappling itself also. he encourages his students heavily to be efficent at escaping bad positions with relative ease because it gives you the confidence to be way more agressive in your offensive attacks because you simply know its not the end of the world if you miss the armbar and somehow and up in sidecontrol or whatever because you can always recover.

[@exterminateurdeverminesetd1272]

I started practicing years ago wrestling for that reason. I do now judo and I noticed that when you know how to grab someone with clothes, even if you don't try a throw, you already dominate him just by the grab. So yeah, definitely, if you know how to grapple and if you have good strength, you can face a lot of guys on this earth

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

Your delusion can only get you so far

[@ailediablo79]

In the ring yes most likely , outside of the ring No, . Where especially a weapon can be used a sharp or smashy or guns or throwing things at the targets, no grambling doesn't cut it alone. Anyway some grabbing is ,needed for sticking. Just grap the hair or fingers or balls or throat or bite or go for the eyes or a combination or all and grabbing would fall on it is own especially when it gets on the ground. Plus in real life fight outside of sports going to the ground is the last thing especially when you are outnumbered or potentially gets outnumbered. UFC is just a sport, no more no less. The one that has a better trade of profomuse balanceed higher score ones. Psychology, physicality and knowledge ,and u have in middle experience and muscle memory that binds the triangle coners together, what wins fights. Thus, with being more monster violent and crazy sametime being cool inside making right judgment useing human brain and instincts and have a decent skills you can with confidence win any fight against anyone. you just need to be a psychopath and have a higher transiting psychology and confidence and love death and don't care. As Yamamoto Musashi and Khaled son of alwaleed said " fight as if you are already dead ". Also Khalid once said "I will bring you Men love death more than you love life.". Be death itself and none would dear to fight you. With controled high anger and seriousness you can achieve easier and higher levels of muscle fiber use % and sharper chemicals and sharper muscle memory by triaging the survival instincts of humans to it is possible max. It is alot of bost like a superhuman.

[@GATE12]

In the ring yes most likely , outside of the ring No, . Where especially a weapon can be used a sharp or smashy or guns or throwing things at the targets, no grambling doesn't cut it alone. Anyway some grabbing is ,needed for sticking. Just grap the hair or fingers or balls or throat or bite or go for the eyes or a combination or all and grabbing would fall on it is own especially when it gets on the ground. Plus in real life fight outside of sports going to the ground is the last thing especially when you are outnumbered or potentially gets outnumbered. UFC is just a sport, no more no less. The one that has a better trade of profomuse balanceed higher score ones. Psychology, physicality and knowledge ,and u have in middle experience and muscle memory that binds the triangle coners together, what wins fights. Thus, with being more monster violent and crazy sametime being cool inside making right judgment useing human brain and instincts and have a decent skills you can with confidence win any fight against anyone. you just need to be a psychopath and have a higher transiting psychology and confidence and love death and don't care. As Yamamoto Musashi and Khaled son of alwaleed said " fight as if you are already dead ". Also Khalid once said "I will bring you Men love death more than you love life.". Be death itself and none would dear to fight you. With controled high anger and seriousness you can achieve easier and higher levels of muscle fiber use % and sharper chemicals and sharper muscle memory by triaging the survival instincts of humans to it is possible max. It is alot of bost like a superhuman.

[@billmurray7721]

Getting punched hard bare knuckle trying to grab someone will sort you out.

[@nicolaunionsspezialfiliall3962]

@@GATE12 Is this some sort of meme I haven't heard of?

[@realityjaunt]

I transitioned from boxing and I can speak from experience just how frustratingly true this is. It took a WHILE to get to the point where my striking was an actual threat. Doesn't do you much good if you can't keep things standing.

[@GATE12]

In the ring yes most likely , outside of the ring No, . Where especially a weapon can be used a sharp or smashy or guns or throwing things at the targets, no grambling doesn't cut it alone. Anyway some grabbing is ,needed for sticking. Just grap the hair or fingers or balls or throat or bite or go for the eyes or a combination or all and grabbing would fall on it is own especially when it gets on the ground. Plus in real life fight outside of sports going to the ground is the last thing especially when you are outnumbered or potentially gets outnumbered. UFC is just a sport, no more no less. The one that has a better trade of profomuse balanceed higher score ones. Psychology, physicality and knowledge ,and u have in middle experience and muscle memory that binds the triangle coners together, what wins fights. Thus, with being more monster violent and crazy sametime being cool inside making right judgment useing human brain and instincts and have a decent skills you can with confidence win any fight against anyone. you just need to be a psychopath and have a higher transiting psychology and confidence and love death and don't care. As Yamamoto Musashi and Khaled son of alwaleed said " fight as if you are already dead ". Also Khalid once said "I will bring you Men love death more than you love life.". Be death itself and none would dear to fight you. With controled high anger and seriousness you can achieve easier and higher levels of muscle fiber use % and sharper chemicals and sharper muscle memory by triaging the survival instincts of humans to it is possible max. It is alot of bost like a superhuman.

[@joeberger3441]

@@GATE12 this is one of the worst arguments that people try to use. For one, weapons, eye gouging, crotch strikes etc can disrupt striking too, not just grappling. But in any case, a trained grappler is not going to give you the time or the physical space to gouge their eyes out or hit them in the balls. If you've ever grappled a high level BJJ guy you'd know it's like wrestling a boa constricter. All of their holds are tight, and you get very little room to move if you don't know how to navigate those positions..also, the trained grappler can use those "street" techniques too. A BJJ guy is going to be a lot more effective with their eye gouging because they have better body control to begin with.

[@GATE12]

@@joeberger3441 what about biting? Plus that was just the tip of the iceberg of what i written. Read the rest then talk.

[@joeberger3441]

@@GATE12 if you bite rather than defend the submission attempt, you're going to end up either dead from asphyxiation or crippled.

[@joeberger3441]

@@GATE12 also, the rest of what you said is a bunch of fanatical mysticism that too many id*ots who don't train, believe. Being emotional and ragey is just going to get you really exposed and tired real fast. And trained fighters have "chemical reactions" too. Adrenaline isn't just a tool of the untrained.

[@madmike1708]

This is something that's really hard to get into someone's head if they have never grappled. Because people just think "Oh I can back away", "I can just stand up" or my fav "Pfft, but I am bigger" Its why I always tell someone skeptical about grappling just to take one class. Because that first rolling for most people you feel like you are actually completely helpless. People either freak out, get mad and never come back, or they love it because they truly felt "I actually need to learn this"

[@y200sub]

And also strikers who never grappled would say : Oh, I'm just gonna elbow/knee/punch you while trying to take me down. Good luck with that body.

[@madmike1708]

@@y200sub Tbf most strikers I talk to mostly respect grappling, granted I think k1 and muay thai has a closer relationship with mma. So most watch mma and see grappling works. Only time I met skeptical people were TMA guys. Had one karate black belt turn up to a Royce Gracie seminar I went to, we did some semi light to mid grappling sparring to warm up while waiting on Royce to get there. I paired up with the karate guy, before we rolled I talked to him. He said "I turned up to see if this Brazilian Jiu-jitsu stuff works".....so we rolled....I tapped him in the first ten seconds with an arm bar, then the next 30 seconds I got a triangle choke.....he immediately reached for my face, I thought he was trying to see if he could gouge my eyes for his own ego that 'If this was the streets' so I shoved the arm away Immediately and got the tap. I wasn't being too fast or harsh, I just showed skill and basically went into "No chances" mode just to show him bjj works.....sadly I might of hurt his ego or went too advanced. But I did a baseball bat choke from the bottom....he didn't tap. I felt so bad when I heard him snore but I let go immediately and he came back really quickly....I guess he found his answer. But I really hope he had an enlightening experience rather than a bad one, because I would of hated to of ruined his experience, even though he really didn't tap and he displayed to me multiple times he knew when to tap...so....yeah, guess bjj works.

[@de0509]

Did exactly that this one time. I kept doing push until this dude stopped backing off and stood his ground. Then I pulled and down he goes

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Exactly

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@de0509 lol

[@obi501]

Coach how should you divide your time between practicing striking and grappling percentage wise? I know there's a lot of overlap for MMA but outside of that, which is trained more?

[@de0509]

Upvoting this for more visibility

[@subratadhar7698]

seriously this is a really good question

[@fabooshka]

Yes I need to know this

[@lgoll]

Same, actually

[@vaughnordakowski8774]

I'm not Ramsey, but my two cents is do as much as you can! If your gym has striking and grappling classes every day of the week, get in as much as your body feels healthy doing. If you really do need to split though, I dont see why 50/50 wouldn't be the best. If you want to compete in mma you better have put great effort into both and well rounded opponents will be able to find the weak parts of your game.

[@aiyahuntacheimumbi236]

Until around the 60's many or most Boxers were experienced wrestlers. Especially at the top level. The rules of Boxing were essentially Bare Knuckle MMA until Broughton's rules, and even in ancient sword manuals the better wrestler was said to almost always kill the other guy.

[@Bl4stinoff2outerspace]

Broughton’s rules were actually introduced in the 1740’s, and boxers are actually still experienced in wrestling! Mayweather is a great example, Ali is as well, as is Foreman and many many more. Wrestling knowledge is just the knowledge of how to physically manipulate another persons body, which is needed in the clinch of any sport and will improve anyone.

[@jamiepaugh2841]

Truth is, with the modern version of MMA you need to be competent everywhere. Specialists can't really get away with being a one trick pony in competitive divisions imo.

[@dragondon]

Of all the sports I competed in, wrestling was the one I was more "natural" at as a competitor. I was not a wrestler in high school but tried out for the collegiate wrestling team at BCC. ( I was the MVP of my High School Football and Basketball teams) They said, "No one starts a sport at the collegiate level". But, after tryouts, I got a full scholarship and in my second year, placed 4th in the State of Florida at 177lbs/ I only quit wrestling because I began my career as a Pro Kickboxer. You are correct in your assessment regarding grappling vs striking.

[@Iron-Bridge]

Always believed that even though I'm no high level fighter. I used to scrap a fair bit as a boy and even then the ability to get dominant grips and wrestle an opponent is already instinctive. Once you shut down the haymaker spamming bully by wrapping him up or taking him down and holding him, he's toast.

[@jaxwhyland]

Imagine being the guy that gets KO'd then screams "you can't even fight" as he walks away

[@jcarbajal7348]

I learned this about 13 years ago after i got my 2nd degree blackbelt in Okinawa Kenpo. One of my senior students went out and started training with a grappler. We had a chance to sparr about 6 months later and i started noticing that i was having a much harder time throwing or controlling him like i had previously. We ended up on the ground where i thought i had some intuition to protect myself and got humbled. That kind of hurt my pride for a while. I ended up getting some grappling lessons as well as training in a few other styles that i was very happy to learn. A small amount of Muy Thai while i was in Thailand, as well as some BJJ here and there. I have to say that my world opened up a lot more in self-defense and skills once i did that. Having a broad utility belt in the martial arts world these days goes a long way. But i am still a firm believer that if you practice and internalize only a couple things really well....it will take you much farther than doing a ton of things just sort of well.

[@michaelcook2290]

If people get cranky when you say you could beat some famous person who had no grappling skills then point them to early UFC.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Yeah

[@Blobbyo25]

Gracie dominance for years lol. No-one could find a reliable counter

[@RoninSerradaEscrimadore]

Agreed. When I was working in protection services, almost all the fights i got into ended up on the ground. Very very rarely does a strike or even a series of strikes end a fight. Sometimes, the opponent/aggressor was so high or drunk even broken bones didn't stop them. Ground skills are absolutely vital for folks who want to go home at the end of the day.

[@princexerakugo7335]

As a striker I can firmly say I love kicking, using knees, elbows and punching and I also enjoy submissions which are so easy but before I even knew 1 submission I challenged a wrestler and getting takendown is an experience and getting pinned down is also an experience, that every striker should know how it feels in order to know what the threat is, how it's done, set up and most importantly how to counter. Even great fighters like wonderboy and Israel amazing strikers in MMA still had to learn how to grapple. At the end of the day go to BJJ class and go to striking class so you know how to strike and keep that fight standing and finish on the ground or on your feet the more options the better.

[@shredgod6394]

And sadly wonderboy has been losing to grapplers lately

[@princexerakugo7335]

@@shredgod6394 can't confirm rn but he said himself that he's been grappling and studying it more and more

[@shredgod6394]

@@princexerakugo7335 Yeah of course. Every ufc fighter does. You can't make it in the ufc without learning grappling. At least well enough to defend. But he has lost his two most recent fights to grapplers imposing their will on him.

[@sensam6155]

Wonderboy has lost to two grapplers recently, and Adesanya lost to Blachowicz due to his superior grappling.

[@princexerakugo7335]

@@sensam6155 thanks

[@ultimatecomeback9645]

lol no. yeah grappling is good and if the fight goes to the ground you will definitely win if you know grappling but when you're still standing there is a very big risk of the grappler getting knocked out/down. I do Muay Thai and Boxing and have only done one grappling session at the MMA gym so far where we did the basics such as sprawling, guillotine setups, etc. but the only time I've been taken down in sparring is when the rules have been changed to favor the grappler. did this sparring session where the rules was no strikes to the face, no hitting too hard, and no timer so the round just goes until there is a submission. with those rules I ended up tapping loads of times. but when the rules aren't changed I don't really get taken down. we don't spar in the ring/cage we just spar on the mats so plenty of room to land a nice jab and step back and circle off. I once kept smacking this guy with some nice Jabs and the occasional Cross then when he went for my legs I took a big fast step backwards and circled off and kept doing that and he got fed up of getting smacked and failing to get the takedown and started chasing me around the mats trying to get my legs and I kept backing up and basically running backwards around the room at one point lol. so I guess what I'm saying is if grapplers don't change the rules it ain't as easy as the Gracies make it look lol. saying an average-level grappler could beat a talented striker made me lose brain cells no offense. my opinion is learn to strike and get very skilled at it but know some basic grappling just encase you end up on the ground so you at least you can do something down there without being helpless but prioritize striking. but I guess not everyone is the same. some people want to be amazing grapplers and only want to know some basic strikes. just depends on which part of martial arts appeals to you the most.

[@RamseyDewey]

If you don’t know how to grapple, you do not understand Muay Thai. Grappling (ie: clinch fighting) is literally half the sport.

[@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821]

Muay Thai has a whole aspect of fighting that is just grappling(the clinch). like cmon man,

[@ailediablo79]

@@RamseyDewey In the ring yes most likely , outside of the ring No, . Where especially a weapon can be used a sharp or smashy or guns or throwing things at the targets, no grambling doesn't cut it alone. Anyway some grabbing is ,needed for sticking. Just grap the hair or fingers or balls or throat or bite or go for the eyes or a combination or all and grabbing would fall on it is own especially when it gets on the ground. Plus in real life fight outside of sports going to the ground is the last thing especially when you are outnumbered or potentially gets outnumbered. UFC is just a sport, no more no less. The one that has a better trade of profomuse balanceed higher score ones. Psychology, physicality and knowledge ,and u have in middle experience and muscle memory that binds the triangle coners together, what wins fights. Thus, with being more monster violent and crazy sametime being cool inside making right judgment useing human brain and instincts and have a decent skills you can with confidence win any fight against anyone. you just need to be a psychopath and have a higher transiting psychology and confidence and love death and don't care. As Yamamoto Musashi and Khaled son of alwaleed said " fight as if you are already dead ". Also Khalid once said "I will bring you Men love death more than you love life.". Be death itself and none would dear to fight you. With controled high anger and seriousness you can achieve easier and higher levels of muscle fiber use % and sharper chemicals and sharper muscle memory by triaging the survival instincts of humans to it is possible max. It is alot of bost like a superhuman.

[@ailediablo79]

@@RamseyDewey the problem is u talking from only a sport perspective.

[@ultimatecomeback9645]

@@RamseyDewey i don't mean like that. yeah i can clinch and do basic sweeps, etc. what i mean is i never got into the whole BJJ and Wrestling side of things.

[@hanoli7933]

Note that alot of sword fighters in the past Samurai or knight could grapple It would often decide life or death even. The better grappler would usually win in war

[@WarlordFlanker]

Hey Ramsey, love this one! Just wanted to let you know it applies to weapon-based combat sports too. In fact, it's doubly important in our sport with respect to the armor. Its often protective enough you have to axe a guy several times before you hurt him through his gear assuming you dont strike him in a gap (where the armor isnt). The average fighter in armored combat sports is a weak grappler. So with my limited 2 years of highschool wrestling, I was able to absolutely shut down fighters twice my size (we dont have weight classes in melees) when I first started fighting.

[@kobejordan5518]

Could you send a video of what you do sounds interesting.

[@WarlordFlanker]

@@kobejordan5518 check out my channel, I semi-regularly upload videos of myself and my team, the Dallas Warlords, competing. We are currently the US National Champs in the ACS and spend a lot of time putting on training camps to try and improve the skillsets of other teams around the nation. Our goal is that we want them to take our skills and crush us. That way they can teach us something new and increase the depth of the skill pool in the sport.

[@acoustic296]

"Grappling is not effective against opponent with knives and guns"

[@Vlad_Tepes_III]

Knives and guns aren't useful against cruise missiles.

[@oleh5109]

Actually, it is. You definitely have to avoid confrontations with armed people, but there are some close range antiweapons techniques and they are grappling based.

[@EdBender]

Its the other way around. The only chance you have to survive a knife attacker is by being very good at grapling, particularly BJJ.

[@acoustic296]

@@EdBender Even if you are very good at grappling its still very dangerous because grappling means you are going more closer to your opponent which is not a good idea against opponents with knife also grappling or jiu jitsu is not effective against TWO opponents . so Dont expect only one person you've encounter in a streets. Criminals knows how to fight too.

[@acoustic296]

@@oleh5109 grappling is a grappling. just kick them in the nutz.

[@Keithwilliams-ql3xn]

This is the truth, love how he summed it up at the end if you don't know how to grapple you really aren't a complete fighter

[@stevenbaker7894]

Facts. I've had my ass handed to me by wrestlers enough to recognize this.

[@SaintCashel]

Well I would say a good or great striker would be able to fight and beat most people, but if someone knows the fundamentals of grappling then they would have a huge advantage. So on a competitive level of MMA grappling is essential, and of course I would recommend everyone to learn it for general self defence.

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

Bla bla bla you talk to much kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoqbfmN6rrqJaM0

[@GATE12]

In the ring yes most likely , outside of the ring No, . Where especially a weapon can be used a sharp or smashy or guns or throwing things at the targets, no grambling doesn't cut it alone. Anyway some grabbing is ,needed for sticking. Just grap the hair or fingers or balls or throat or bite or go for the eyes or a combination or all and grabbing would fall on it is own especially when it gets on the ground. Plus in real life fight outside of sports going to the ground is the last thing especially when you are outnumbered or potentially gets outnumbered. UFC is just a sport, no more no less. The one that has a better trade of profomuse balanceed higher score ones. Psychology, physicality and knowledge ,and u have in middle experience and muscle memory that binds the triangle coners together, what wins fights. Thus, with being more monster violent and crazy sametime being cool inside making right judgment useing human brain and instincts and have a decent skills you can with confidence win any fight against anyone. you just need to be a psychopath and have a higher transiting psychology and confidence and love death and don't care. As Yamamoto Musashi and Khaled son of alwaleed said " fight as if you are already dead ". Also Khalid once said "I will bring you Men love death more than you love life.". Be death itself and none would dear to fight you. With controled high anger and seriousness you can achieve easier and higher levels of muscle fiber use % and sharper chemicals and sharper muscle memory by triaging the survival instincts of humans to it is possible max. It is alot of bost like a superhuman.

[@raigreen517]

@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed damn that one was beautiful

[@gjesus051]

@@GATE12 dunce

[@SaintCashel]

@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed Just watch the highest levels of fighting and you'll see that it requires an understanding of both sets of martial arts. Even displayed in your video with the finish ;)

[@ehs1452]

Slightly misleading title ngl, grappling is vital for professional MMA bouts, but that doesn't mean strikers can't fight at all. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Mike Tyson knows how to fight pretty well just from using his boxing

[@omarkusturica3174]

Ramsey tends to use the word fighting in the sense of an MMA fight, which I guess is understandable since he is an MMA coach. In any case, grappling is certainly useful.

[@whodatboi2567]

Nah this also applies in a street fight. Unless you do a great job in maintaining distance and sticking and moving a guy getting his hands on you won't be a good time. This is double when a person is able to grab clothing.

[@somethingsomethinggr]

There was a time when grappling, specifically wrestling played an important part in being a good, well rounded boxer. Back in the day all boxers needed to know how to grapple. Over the years as the gloves increased in size and allowed for less hand movement making it harder to utilise grappling techniques and making it easier to block punches using the gloves themselves boxing changed focussing more on the punching aspect and less on grappling. Although some modern day boxers do still use wrestling techniques.

[@ehs1452]

@@whodatboi2567 I disagree, not only is that assuming your average untrained man can last long enough to grab a trained striker, you'd better believe if someone who doesn't know any takedowns gets in close with a striker, they'd better like the taste of knees and elbows. Plus someone who isn't trained has no better chance of grappling than a striker

[@jeffhathorn7148]

@@whodatboi2567 I respectfully disagree....I’m not going to the ground in a street fight. That’s a good way to get your head stomped by your opponents buddies. And I’m not going to get close enough to get stabbed either. Best to stay on your feet and get away. I totally agree that if you can’t grapple, you’re not a complete fighter. Thanks...stay safe

[@theunknownguy265]

That's why i chose grappling

[@ajshiro3957]

So true. This one guy i sparred had no idea how to grapple became frustrated when i gripped his arm. I didn't even pull the technique yet

[@danielj233]

"I swear it upon Zeus, an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler" -Socrates

[@BC-ge2xv]

Socrates never wrote anything. Plato uses him as a character in his works.

[@xplitegaming8295]

Just train your legs and run like Elsa at the start of frozen can't grapple me if ya can't catch me! AKA the secret joestar technique

[@alvarezgamers]

Very true. I’m a brown belt in jujitsu. And i went up against high level strikers who have zero grappling and it’s a totally different realm when you grab them.

[@Jordanthecool7]

People don’t understand, he’s not saying that striking is useless. He’s trying to say that grappling is also important aswell, and a lot of people either forget about grappling ,or hate on it. What Ramsey is saying is to be the best fighter you can be, it’s important to be well rounded in both striking and grappling

[@beawarrior9208]

Hey Ramsey, you convinced me, when the lockdown is over, I'm going to learn how to grapple 😁🙏

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Nice! What grappling styles are planning to learn?

[@mattzod231]

All the brazalian jiu jitsu schools have been open here in NYC for months now.. Jiu jitsu life is normal here..

[@beawarrior9208]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 I like the greco-roman wrestling so maybe this one. Do you practice a grappling sport ?

[@beawarrior9208]

@@mattzod231 that's great! I hope we'll soon be able to do contact sport again.

[@LosHitman]

@@beawarrior9208 sorry but Greco Roman Wrestling isn’t really a thing in the states

[@screamtheguy6425]

Even animals grapple, ants grapple gorillas grapple wolves grapple It seems like it's preferred over striking in general, according to mother nature.

[@linuxman7777]

Pistol Shrimps entered the chat

[@sibusiso2841]

Learnt this in school the hard way. You can't be like, "thats unfair bro, no grabbing"

[@oneguy7202]

Hey Ramsey this is my quote man.

[@nandoxus]

Well. I would keep my distance against a grappler as my grappling isn't that good. And feed him a barrage of leg kicks and jabs to the nose.

[@Nittyking420]

Ye man that’s always works out lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@sensam6155]

Good luck, little buddy. LOL! Each one of those leg kicks is a beautiful opportunity for him to take your leg and single leg you down to the ground and finish the fight in seconds. Each one of those jabs a delicious opportunity to change levels and blast double you to the ground and finish the fight in seconds.

[@sensam6155]

These types of tactics will work 0% of the time unless you know enough grappling to fend off the single leg after your leg kicks, and fend off the double leg after your jabs. If you wanna know how to fend those off, you have to know how to execute them yourself so you can stop him from accomplishing everything he wants to do.

[@daveshif2514]

Naked front kicks are like telling the other guy “please slam me on my head oh please”

[@mfathurhaqihaqi6261]

Other people had tried and 90% of them got taken down and choked out. 1v1 a grappler would eat a striker alive, but I do still think that striking martial arts would serve you far better in most street fight scenarios like having multiple attackers (You'd never see a grapple beating 2 or 3 guys with only pure grappling) or where weapons are involved.

[@georgebrett2263]

Nice assessment. And very much on point as always. Thank you.

[@damianneve]

You don't need to know how to grapple, you need to just know how to defend against it. It's the same as not needing to know kickboxing to heel hook them. You are a fkn joke and you move like shit

[@sunte91]

@@damianneve defending against grappling is grappling

[@shlumpsclumpump8748]

@@sunte91 lmao I don't get how hard that concept is to grasp. Yet people will ignore it. Defending against grappling is grappling!!!

[@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821]

@@damianneve Defending grappling is grappling.

[@damianneve]

@@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821 if you shoot for a leg and I knock you out with a punch or kick, that's grappling? What school did you not graduate from? Did the short bus leave you because you were too slow? See what I mean about this guy's viewers?

[@jaye2491]

So true. Someone who can't grapple will have no takedown defence. That's not good, and will very likely get drowned on the ground.

[@bromendez5073]

Highly agree with this. It's also important to know striking as well, since in most situations, the safest way to fight would be striking. Knowing how to defend against someone who can strike is very important, just like how it takes one takedown against an untrained striker, it only takes one strike against an untrained grappler to finish the fight.

[@bondjames-bond7664]

Keep these golden nuggets (coming) 🙏🙏🏼🙏 I literally sleep to " why Bjj guys are wimps " .... That story where u became string enough to defeat the strong dude is inspiring af 🙌 That is what some fictional movies are made of .... Truth is stranger than fiction ...

[@mikes4068]

It’s funny how all your”grapplers” say this but everytime you get hit you forget all your training. Mike Tyson said it best everybody has a plan till they get punched in the mouth

[@Jordanthecool7]

Same the other way around , . Everyone has a plan until their on the ground or in the air

[@Jordanthecool7]

Both grappling and striking are Important

[@glenngolding6375]

Learnt greco Roman in the 60s and seventy from my late grandfather and also Western boxing here in Australia. Now I'm over 60 but it serves me well when having to defend myself. Cheers Your Truly

[@raphaellopez9290]

If boxer doesn't know to Clinch and gets caught in a Muay Thai Clinch, the boxer is screwed.

[@jeffismywaifu4093]

I'll take that as a sign to visit bjj class once in a while

[@brandoandthenewromantics5842]

I've seen good strikers knock out good grapplers. Sometimes it doesn't always work for grapplers.

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

True. Also if you only know how to grapple and even more importantly only know how to deal with grappling, you can't fight.

[@jeremyjordan6786]

Grappling is part of any culture in my African culture, we wrestle for higher positions in the leadership hierarchy, and for entertainment purposes totally agree with you.

[@AntiquatedApe]

You just need to know how to defend against grappling

[@russianundead5532]

Which you do with grappling

[@RamseyDewey]

That’s called “grappling”.

[@NinjaKu23]

@@russianundead5532 Not necessarily. Just ask Ben Askren who got absolutely demolished by a flying knee to the face by Masvidal. One of the oldest techniques against anyone trying to go for your legs. Plenty of strikes out there that can counter a grappler.

[@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821]

@@NinjaKu23 a telegraphed shot that slow from someone so injured and old as askren is not the same as a world class grappler shooting in when you least expect it. You can't expect a knee to stop a TD consistently thats just bad practice and your going to get yourself hurt thinking that

[@sensam6155]

Ask Wonderboy how that strategy is going for him.

[@AYYYLMAOOOOO]

So your saying Gaolang can’t fight 😂

[@sensam6155]

No one is talking about cartoons

[@Wombo_combo75874]

So true. Many people look at TKD as just a striking style, but it never was supposed to be. I was actually friends with someone that trained under the founder, and this individual wrote the rules of sparring for TKD. He told me he regretted not including grabs in sparring, and as a consequence many people in TKD forgot how to defend against grabs. I was lucky to have two instructors that really emphasized the importance of knowing how to grapple and taught it.

[@outofbody6797]

this man hasnt lied once during this video, and also you should DEFINITELY consider voice acting.

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

It's good to know. learn to stop takedowns... People that focus only on ground fighting are handy caped in striking... The best grapplers lose very badly to strikers.. Watch when Kabbab comes back how he will lose to a striker. Ground fighters don't have the physical skill to strike.. The more physically gifted turn into strikers. This is a fact.

[@someboi4903]

If you can reliably stop takedowns then you know how to grapple

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

STFU I already said that. All a good striker need to learn is to stop the takedowns. Now if you get taken down just shit your pants that should keep them off of you something like a skunk or you can learn how to stay in the guard and strike or go for submissions. You can always become a ground fighter but a striker is born.

[@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821]

@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed phenomenal anythings are born tho you can't just wish very hard to become an olympian you have to be a genetic freak and go through the iron clad high school and college system, filled with men who are extremely strong fast and mentally tough. you can't become an olympic wrestler without being a freak, same for strikers.

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

@@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821 The ones that start young Always have the advantage like the Thai

[@marshallmaia8130]

If you don’t know how to strike you are not a complete fighter. Even if you have excellent grappling, a pretty average striker, has a very high chance of destroying you in a fight. You’re gonna heel hook him? What if he controls range and moves his feet and waits to counter you with his jab. When was the last time you tried to take down someone that was allowed to strike you with all 8 limbs? A grappler can beat a striker, if he can get it to the ground. A striker has an immediate advantage because it starts on the feet, if you ambush the striker you’ll win, but toe to toe you’re just as likely to get caught, fail a takedown and be on your back getting your head kicked in while you’re trying to establish grips. You’re used to training against an opponent that is abiding by a set of rules. In a fight to the death, you grab your heel hook, he’ll grab your nuts and castrate you or pull out a knife and stab you or have his buddies come kicked you in the back of the head . On the feet you have the option to move and use your environment. On the ground you’re just a shark out of water.

[@fridolfmane1063]

-Imma grappler, watch me shoot! *flying knee to the head*

[@jamesrowlands1943]

Judo, wrestling, sambo, jiu-jitsu, you're basically using the planet as a weapon...

[@olivercrespo2329]

Best option is too know everything, because some guys are as good as you on the feet as you are on the ground, and you have to close that distance safely, knowing where you’re safe and not safe in the striking range is also very important for grapplers to know.

[@mrhoneystinger3676]

I was trained by Commander Dale from DUST. Any opponents punch would feel like a fly landing on me. As a bonus my certificate of invisibility arrived in the mail yesterday.

[@mistermister1366]

That's the truth. The only chance a pure striker has against a REAL grappler is a huge weight and\or strength advantage.

[@silferbuu86]

I've beaten grapplers even though I'm primarily a striker. Although, I have a basic knowledge of grappling, but I try to end the fight before it gets on the ground.

[@dasallmaechtigeJ]

Only applies to 1v1 situations. In a Bar fight etc., grappling will likely get you knocked out from the next guy

[@hamatsa_]

I've ways held boxers and strikes in higher renown. I think anyone can learn grappling skills but not everyone can be an effective striker. Knocking out someone without breaking your hand is more impressive than choking someone out.

[@andrewryan7583]

True that. After 25 years of high level striking. I was very humbled when I started Jiu Jitsu Took a long time to even get off my back. It’s a must have skill

[@VKjkd]

Was that purely grappling or when you included striking too in sparring?

[@bluehornet197]

Spitting straight facts as grappling is based upon experience if you don't have said experience you won't win

[@makenjikarate]

I do agree, that's why it's helpful to know grappling and striking

[@thedraftingax5963]

Glad that I already know how to grapple and aim really good!

[@NattyIce553]

Gee wow good for you

[@kinganton616]

The problem with grappling is it’s 1 vs 1 scenario suited, if you grapple on a 2 vs 1 it’s shit, striking is the way forward for that but let’s all agree mma is the best for everything when it comes to fighting

[@goodguytyphlosion3347]

As much as I hate to admit it you are 100 percent correct because once you get into any hold and you don't know what to do you will pass out

[@robertneale858]

Yes ramsay totally agree was a door supervisor at a nightclub I studied karate it failed me because of range etc so I reassessed my training and started traditional ju jitsu and now bjj overall I've been studying jiu jitsu's for 20 years and for me it's a way of life all the best ramsay and a happy new year 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@phantom.wreath]

As wrestler who just started boxing, I'll say it takes is one punch to knock someone out. But it takes a lot of moves and combinations to set up a submission.

[@lethn2929]

Even being somebody who practices shotokan, he's right, real fighting is fucking dirty and even if you don't 'like' dirty fighting you need to prepare for that, someone is more liable to do a cheap headbutt to your face outside and then sucker punch you than fight fair because that's how the real world works and no amount of strike oriented training will pepare you for that. With that in mind I actually asked my teachers once about how you would deal with a headbutt if someone grabbed you for example and they just showed me a neat elbow strike I wouldn't have thought of and it was such an obvious move when you learn it and realise, quick and it will get you out of trouble fast. You can very easily tell just based on the scenarios and discussions people have who is learning martial arts as a sport vs self-defence.

[@teeprice7499]

I agree that one needs at least a modicum of grappling of some sort. At least you can puzzle through some defenses even if you don't concentrate on that aspect

[@XxxULTIMATEZxxX]

The real issue here is that grappling as a form of martial arts is so slept on. Boxing and kickboxing are so hyped up in our culture that we forget that grappling is also a huge element of fighting. Just like we are blown away by Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali’s skills, we forget how elite grapplers can absolutely dominate an opponent. In a way, grappling is more dangerous because everybody knows what boxing or kickboxing is, everybody understands it to some degree. But not as many people understand the danger of grappling, they don’t understand the danger they are in when a grappler gets a hold of their leg or waist. To be a proficient fighter, you have to be able to do BOTH, which is what we see with high level MMA fighters today. They can strike and grapple to a high standard.

[@IsabellasWardrobe1]

I'm going to learn BJJ. I don't like grappling but I need to learn it. Thanks Ramsey for your valuable knowledge. 👍

[@RamseyDewey]

I used to feel the exact same way. But now? Grappling is awesome!

[@mycharredrose]

I feel like it really just boils down to who’s better in general. Like grappling is great until you can’t get a hold of them. And there’s the saying that it only takes One. Same applies, if you can’t land, and get grabbed and you don’t know how to get out? Then it only takes a few seconds before you either get snapped or choked.

[@deadchivalry1698]

That's why I like the style of karate I do. It incorporates grappling (both standing, takedowns, and groundwork) alongside it's striking. Most modern karate systems only focus on striking unfortunately.

[@ohji-soo73]

As someone who does Muay Thai buts speciality is wrestling and BJJ, I agree. My striking is average enough to set up my grappling and once I get a hold of a striker it's over

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

This loops perfectly

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Well, not perfectly but it looks cool

[@TinyTitian]

I feel it should be if you can't get back up from bad position after being taken down, take someone down. The average grappler can beat you. I wish I had the takedown game now and counter wrestling I do now years ago. To much focus on mma on jiu jitsu and not enough on dictating position. You put in punches and if I can stay on top I win.

[@simonadebisi6501]

I was boxing sparring with my buddy and embarrassed him ,he got mad took off the gloves and started his bjj on me arm bar got me tapping out real quick...soon has the grappler close the striking gap, the none grappler getting his ass kicked because boxing doesn't really goes further than clinches once we close

[@TheRicardoSanchez]

Take it to the street, take away all the stupid rules, then come back to this conversation.

[@antoniooliver4895]

💯💯💯 this goes to those who think grappling is not fighting

[@streamingnowstreamingnow2568]

Tyson vs Ramsey, lets go.

[@twistedstrength.]

I gotta disagree with you on this one Ramsey and here’s why: For starters, your definition of “average grappler” is different than mine. You are a world class fighter with world class exposure, so your standards may be much higher. I have no illusions that I could beat up a professional boxer simply because I competed in wrestling throughout high school. Also, many pure grapplers do absolutely no training against someone who is actively trying to throw strikes at them. Just because a striker has no experience with grappling does not mean that they are an idiot who will just start throwing telegraphed haymakers as hard as they can and become off balanced and upright. Even if we discount the size difference that will occur between people on the street, there are many different types of strikers out there. A boxer who is very quick and powerful with straights and uppercuts will be much much harder to take down or even pull guard on compared to a Deyontay Wilder type of brawler. Making blanket statements without considering the type of striker or grappler is just not being fully accurate. A big part of fighting is being able to take a kick or punch. This is something strikers will generally excel at compared to pure grapplers. There are a large amount of average level grapplers that have never been kicked in the leg or punched in the face before who will literally just buckle from the unfamiliar pain and shut down in a fight, even if they are not concussed (I’ve seen it). All I am saying is that elite strikers are not guaranteed to lose a street-fight with an average grappler any more than a professional baseball player will lose a soccer game to an average soccer goalie.

[@devashishbahuguna7222]

why would you say something so controversial yet so true 😂💯👑

[@timegan4078]

I trained with boxers and kickboxers years ago, and fought a couple of boxer vs. kickboxer bouts, I was the boxer in both bouts. I don't pick fights, but I have no grappling experience, and fighting a decent grappler would be a nightmare scenario for me.

[@natedyton61]

Primarily I'm a boxer but I do agree ground game is soo important now day's but you need to know how to strike too because if you're fighting a striker you only have a few attempts to get them on the ground before you get lit up, its dangerous if the striker knows how to snuff your takedowns.

[@jeffreywright2294]

You must Learn and Absolutely know and understand all aspects of the Fighting Arts 💪!

[@ozellwells6582]

Ram you got to continue to teach as so many of us in the fanbase need to shut up and listen and learn from you

[@hruaiabawitlung107]

Hey Ramsey,this is so true.I am not a grappler but i learn single and double leg takedowns and a rear naked choke from KZbin.It helped me win 4 fights.

[@willmcgregor7184]

Same can be said for someone who can’t Kick Throw

[@muayboran6111]

My neck disagrees with you😂 but then again so does my brain to striking

[@castle6660]

I 100% agree with the last sentence Ramsey spoke. Which is not the same as the title of the video. If you don't know how to grapple you are not a complete fighter. That does not mean you do not know how to fight at all. It means that you are not complete. 100% agree. Video title does not match the actual message of the video.

[@PeePop]

You have an amazing voice man. You sound like you could narrate videos and stuff man. Your voice is a weapon itself jesus lol

[@methodtraining]

This is such an antiquated argument. You need all of it. Striking -grappling -ground fighting. ALL OF IT!

[@aidanmcmurtrie1424]

For real. If you can't maintain distance, it's gonna come down to infighting and if you don't know what you're doing you will eat concrete