If You Sleep With Someone Are You Biblically Married?

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Mike Winger

Mike Winger

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@gabehcuod681
@gabehcuod681 4 жыл бұрын
I recently watched a movie called "before the wrath". It's more like a scenic documentary than a movie actually. It analyzes the galileeic wedding and it's similarities with the rapture of the church. In short: a woman is betrothed to a man - they spend a period of time apart - the man builds a room in his father's house for them to live in - nobody knows when the wedding is going to happen except the father. And here comes the real interesting part: According to tradition the father would tell his son to go get his bride in the middle of the night. The son would then go through the village sounding a shofar to wake up the villagers to the wedding feast. The bride was then lifted up in a chair and carried to the wedding feast. The ones who didn't attend the parade weren't let into the wedding. Anyone who knows the new testament clearly see the references. The wedding is an image of the son (Jesus) who gives the bride (the church) a promise of returning for her. Jesus is now buildning a room in his Father's house (heaven). Nobody knows when it will happen except God the Father. The trump will sound when we are lifted up to meet Jesus in the clouds and we will be together forever. I think that is one of the reasons why marriage is so attacked these days. It is holy to God and it's a wondrous depiction of the promise between God and man and a reminder for us to be vigilant and awake. This just adds on to what pastor Mike said, which is also very true.
@heir_to_the_promise
@heir_to_the_promise 2 жыл бұрын
I think that is quite a stretch.
@godsstruggler8783
@godsstruggler8783 2 жыл бұрын
I heard a sermon by Jacob Prasch some 17 years ago that is identical to what you describe in your comment.
@heir_to_the_promise
@heir_to_the_promise 2 жыл бұрын
@@anonymous_man7 Why do I have to be “smokin?” 😂
@barnabasjthomas9983
@barnabasjthomas9983 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly? Sounds like a jerk father. "Son, wake up! Yeah, it's the middle of the night. Perfect time to get hitched, wouldn't you say? Off you go!"
@emerald7777
@emerald7777 Жыл бұрын
@@heir_to_the_promise not in the slightest... it's quite plain.
@janedoe4
@janedoe4 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Pastor Mike! Last year my (now) husband and I were recent converts in a very similar situation to the woman who asked the question. We began attending church together and I appreciated that once the pastors were aware of our situation and saw that we were attending regularly, they lovingly spoke with us about this. I felt the same way as the woman asking the question, like we've lived together this long before finding God, we're basically already married. We had even agreed to abstain and were practicing abstinence, but still living together before the wedding. What hit home to me during the conversation and was the catalyst for my decision to move out of our home until the wedding, was when the pastor and his wife shared that other people could see our relationship and think it was okay to live together outside of marriage; like it could be a stumbling block for someone else. I never thought about it that way. We married in October of last year, and I did a lot of back and forth between an air-b-and-b in town where I live/work and my mom's house on weekends an hour and a half away. But I wouldn't trade it for anything! The Lord used that time to speak to my heart and prepare me for marriage and my wedding day was, beautiful spiritually and physically because I knew we were truly obeying God. Surrounded by family, friends and our new church community we submitted our will to His and entered into our marriage in obedience to Him. Keep getting His word out! The world needs the truth ❤️🙏🙂
@starlightmckennah5241
@starlightmckennah5241 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. During this time did you spend time alone in each others houses or airbnbs? Or did you always keep seeing each other in public settings?
@janedoe4
@janedoe4 8 ай бұрын
@starlightmckennah5241 we purposely chose to not spend time alone at home/air-b-and-b to avoid temptation. I selected an air-b-and-b with a strict "No visitors" policy. If I had to grab anything from home/swap out clothes. I did that while he was at work. We planned our 1:1 time in public places. It helped a lot with avoiding temptation and maintaining our commitment to keep our relationship in obedience before the wedding.
@starlightmckennah5241
@starlightmckennah5241 8 ай бұрын
@janedoe4 Thank you so much for replying. Im going to do this, too. Im a new Christian learning how to respectfully and obediently (to God) navigate dating
@janedoe4
@janedoe4 8 ай бұрын
@starlightmckennah5241 I will be praying for you 🙏 ❤️ 🙂 God is so good. I was so surprised by the peace and joy that He gave me throughout the whole time, the more I submitted the relationship to Him. A big blessing was staying at my mom's. My sisters and mom and I did a lot together on those weekends. That was such precious time with them. My mom's in her 70s so I know that time was a blessing and a gift 🙂❤️
@starlightmckennah5241
@starlightmckennah5241 8 ай бұрын
@@janedoe4 It's reallly beautiful that your decision to be obedient to God opened up unexpected gifts and blessings for you. Yes, please sincerely pray for me to learn to walk rightously in relation to men and to keep obedient to the Lord and resist temptation. My struggle in this area led me to read your comment which was so inspiring and helped me to realize there are many positive examples in the body of Christ of which I can lean on and emulate
@chucksolutions4579
@chucksolutions4579 Жыл бұрын
When I was growing up, I always thought that if a man got a woman pregnant, it was the right thing to do for him to marry her. When I went to college I befriended a guy who was a devout Christian who challenged my understanding. He slept with a girl who was not a Christian and got her pregnant. This was in Alaska in 2003. The woman (20F) was also religious, devout Ba’Hai, and lived in Juneau, AK with her Indian/Israeli family. The young man (22m) was a blond surfer white boy from a devout Christian family. He moved to Juneau (900miles away, no road trip options) and started attending my Bible study. When I asked if he was going to ask her to marry him, he said that it would be compounding sin for him to do that, but he was going to do everything he could to be a father to the child. For the next two years he effectively indentured himself to the woman’s family to ensure they understood he was not some interloper, all the while treating her with utmost respect and weirdly NOT trying to woo her. Eventually, she ended up leaving her family and faith and converted to Christianity, but he made it clear from the beginning that was not his goal, it was to be a father. Six months after her conversion they started dating six months after that, they were engaged and another six months they were married. Four years from the time they slept together the first time to their wedding day, they were never again alone together, and he did not date anyone else the entire time. That 22 year old showed me what it really meant to man up when you sin. Today they have six children and he is a doctor.
@semi2893
@semi2893 Жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful story, thanks for sharing 🥰
@chucksolutions4579
@chucksolutions4579 Жыл бұрын
@@semi2893 it was amazing BUT at no point did he ever put words to that being even his hope. His intentions were only one step ahead, while most are too busy looking too far down the line. Of course I’m sure that was the outcome he wanted but whenever questioned about it, or whenever the opportunity came to date other women (which I observe happening often) he remained firm in his one step at a time focus. I’m sure that had he tried to jump the process to the ending it would not have worked out near as well.
@starlightmckennah5241
@starlightmckennah5241 8 ай бұрын
Very inspiring story. I will keep this close to my heart as im learning how to date as a new Christian. When you said they were never alone togther, does that also mean they didnt go to restaurants alone also? Or just that it was never JUST the two of them together without others around?
@chucksolutions4579
@chucksolutions4579 8 ай бұрын
@@starlightmckennah5241 I was not with them 24/7 (obviously) but as I gathered if they went out together, they had chaperones. I was asked to chaperone on a few occasions. It was never called that just, there was always a responsible older person her family respected with them.
@starlightmckennah5241
@starlightmckennah5241 8 ай бұрын
@@chucksolutions4579 Thank you for your reply. Thats really a lovely way to be
@rosalinddavies8466
@rosalinddavies8466 Жыл бұрын
I have a Christian friend who had a child outside of marriage and they were engaged, living together without being married. When I asked her about this topic to learn more she got angry and defensive. Really appreciate you covering the topic
@ritadyer9295
@ritadyer9295 9 ай бұрын
If she got angry, I would question her Christianity. She should feel convicted.
@bsangel93
@bsangel93 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t question her Christianity like this other person said. We are not robots, we have feelings like shame and anger. Perhaps in the future you can have another conversation about it. Im sure she realizes they did wrong and it can be hard for one’s sins from the past to be brought up. But with repentance comes forgiveness.
@davidmc1489
@davidmc1489 Жыл бұрын
Lord forgive me for my fornication in my past... Been celibate since my divorce .... Help me to be strong in my mind against sin.
@Amlo589
@Amlo589 2 ай бұрын
@@davidmc1489I’m divorced too and celibate. What is have you learned about remarriage?
@mohlamonyanealbert3532
@mohlamonyanealbert3532 27 күн бұрын
@@Amlo589 Revise the video. You cannot remarry unless there was sexual sin by your spouse. If it is your sin, you should remain unmarried till he dies.
@JohnGalt1960
@JohnGalt1960 Жыл бұрын
In my younger days I was very sinful and promiscuous. I have been married multiple times. I've been celibate since my last marriage ended in 2016, the thought of ever having sex again is absolutely disgusting to me now, sexual sin is spiritually deadly to me. I'm celibate for Spiritual health.
@jpar19835
@jpar19835 Жыл бұрын
Very well said. I may need to (awkwardly) share this with my 14 year old daughter so she can avoid this confusion.
@neun2609
@neun2609 Жыл бұрын
Even if the talk may be awkward, it will be a very special memory for her. You can tell her how much she means to you and that alone could help prevent something that is not good for her.
@TaraHower
@TaraHower 4 жыл бұрын
That's what a guy told me and I fell for it. He even bought me a promise ring. Then found out he was cheating on me. moral of the story wait to get married it's so worth it. But of course get to know the person you choose to marry. Make sure there are common goals beliefs and strong foundation. No one gets it perfect and people cant be changed by you. Hope you find a great loving Godly relationship
@curtw878
@curtw878 3 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Sneyd Your comment clarifies exactly what biblical marriage is and the difference between biblical and legal marriage. the problem is that the Christian church mixes the two because of our culture. Biblically, if you and your partner make a covenant with God that you are one that is a biblical marriage. Sex seals the marriage.
@shaunsteele6926
@shaunsteele6926 2 жыл бұрын
well he wasn't wrong, when you had sex you were spiritually married to him
@dk4232
@dk4232 2 жыл бұрын
These comments show you didn't listen to the video
@garouuchiha4041
@garouuchiha4041 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't do that to you Tara, no lie because I am different.
@Aquascape_Dreaming
@Aquascape_Dreaming Жыл бұрын
​​@@curtw878 incorrect. Marriage is a legally binding contract, even in God's eyes. You can't use Adam and Eve as a means to discredit this idea, because at that time, there were no other governments besides God. In Old testament times they still had contracts, much like the contract where 2 would cut an animal in half and the 2 would walk between the halves. This was considered a legally binding contract. The times have changed, the form of contracts also, but the principle has remained. You lack the evidence that any physical coupling is assumed as a biblical marriage. When speaking in terms of a man and woman, there's no difference between biblical and legal marriage, since marriage is supposed to be a reflection of the contract/covenant that God made with man, through Christ. God has a legal standing with us through the contract that he, himself fulfilled. You might not like that, but it doesn't make it any less true. You and others that think like you can point at a marriage contract and dismiss it as worldly as much as you want, but you're fooling yourself if you think God doesn't care about things like this. In the case of the absence of such a government to regulate and officiate a marriage, sure, God will provide the justification for the marriage. But when you live in a place where marriage is governed and recognized by the government, you have no excuse to go your merry way.
@pastrbuzz1
@pastrbuzz1 2 жыл бұрын
These shorter videos are a great idea. I love your stuff, but I've never been able to sit through anything longer than about 30-45 minutes! (not just yours, but most anyones.)😁 I vote for more like this!! :)
@thekingsheiress5924
@thekingsheiress5924 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Me too
@Johnnyvtg
@Johnnyvtg Жыл бұрын
If you have an activity you have to do that is boring and doesn't require much mental gymnastics, I'd recommend listening to the videos during that instead of watching them. Since there isn't any other exhilarating stimulus, you will naturally be interested in listening and able to pay attention. Of course, whether this works for not depends on the person.
@pastrbuzz1
@pastrbuzz1 Жыл бұрын
@@Johnnyvtg good advice! Thank you!
@moarijoewana
@moarijoewana Жыл бұрын
I would watch his stuff if it was shorter.
@alexissifuentes3132
@alexissifuentes3132 Жыл бұрын
Well it never happened bc it wasnt a great idea lol
@sadiek9968
@sadiek9968 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to wait for marriage. I an adult now, but when I was 17 I was manipulated into having sex with my ex when he told me that sex was marriage so it was okay. After we broke up I was terrified that I could never get married because thought already was. The Lord has sense redemed me and now I am with someone who always puts Jesus first. However, this false teaching is used to hurt lots of people. Like it hurt me. I am so glad you are teaching on it! God bless you! 2023 Edit: thank you for the support and responses!. I'd like to share I am legally married now to my wonderful husband. Who has never treated me better. For those who seem to take such an issue with my original post. May I include the context that I was a child (17) and the person that I was dating was not (21) therefore when I say manipulated, I mean coerced, therefore under the law statutory rape, I do still consider it a sin and one that I have repented for. Whether you agree with that or not it's not my concern. I have devoted my life to the lord. And grateful and fully redeemed in him and only him. Repent and believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
@VictorMateo001
@VictorMateo001 4 жыл бұрын
waw, "this false teaching is used to hurt lots of people" that is very true
@kathyh.1720
@kathyh.1720 4 жыл бұрын
@Dirkjan If you truly believe that, then why are you here on this channel? Do you enjoy listening to what you believe to be false teaching? Or did you just make a comment without listening to the teaching? Also, in order for you to "know" that the Bible is full of "B.S.", you must have read it yourself, because you can't know something that someone else tells you without checking it out for yourself to see if it was true. You see, Sadie K believed that man because she hadn't checked to see if he was telling her the truth or not. What she thought she knew to be true was not actually true. However, she had to have that false teaching replaced with truth. That truth came through the Bible.
@RedPillOfTheBible
@RedPillOfTheBible 4 жыл бұрын
@Grace Asher She needs to take responsibility of her choices, her decisions, was her decision to have sex and marry that previous guy; was her responsibility in doing that as a marriage. In which way could that teaching hurt her????? She believed sex was marriage, so she decided to marry that guy by having sex with him. She needs to stop playing the victim. And now she compares her ex and her currently husband saying that the first was bad, but it was totally her decision to have sex as a marriage. And you saying she has taken full responsibility????? Hahaha She blames her ex and the "false teachings" all her comment.
@rembrandt972ify
@rembrandt972ify 4 жыл бұрын
Don't blame your ex or your manual for genocide. You bumped uglies because you wanted to. I've always wondered what it is like to have sex with someone who put Jesus first. I never have because I'm not a sad pathetic dweeb.
@mittwochxiv.9770
@mittwochxiv.9770 4 жыл бұрын
@@RedPillOfTheBible She thought she married the guy by having sex with him. It does not sound like she planned on breaking up with him later. She wanted to stay with him and had sex for that reason. Not a smart decision, but what do you expect from a 17 year old. Obviously, given the fact that the original poster does not want to live outside biblical rules, the break up was devestating to her. How you can make this look like that's a premeditated thing. As always I'm just feeling sorry for the red-pill-guys, you all must have had the worst experiences to be quick to judge any female you never met.
@mackenziebodie9
@mackenziebodie9 Жыл бұрын
My husband and I eloped and didn't tell anyone until after we were married so that they couldn't object. We had the ceremony part of what you described as a Biblical marriage but without the community/public element.
@BigMac4459
@BigMac4459 Жыл бұрын
Good on you! If you think it's right and prayed on it- follow your heart. "We make our plans but God gives the right answer".
@prudentpenny
@prudentpenny Жыл бұрын
The public part may have been the filing with the state and having a person officiate… it’s not going to the woods a taking vows with no witness
@glenarledge1825
@glenarledge1825 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to use the word “partner”. It’s husband and wife…period!
@JoseSantiago-tv8so
@JoseSantiago-tv8so 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you glenarledge1825.
@mcp121
@mcp121 7 ай бұрын
If you refer to your significant other as "partner", you are unlikely to be married hence not wife/husband.
@lisacox3750
@lisacox3750 5 ай бұрын
@@mcp121 That's not true at all. I love the term partner because sometimes I think it's significance is stronger than saying "husband" or "wife". I think for some people husband and wife is more like "romantic" rather than "this is my life partner in ALL ways" not just for the romance or in a sexual way. This person supports me in all things - everyone does not have a SUPPORTIVE husband or wife. They are not their HELPMATE or PARTNER in all things outside the home.
@mcp121
@mcp121 5 ай бұрын
@@lisacox3750 yes that's possible, but you are in the 1%. As I said "unlikely" but this does not exclude the possibility. You are looking at something deeply that most people just say casually.
@joserodolforamirez8773
@joserodolforamirez8773 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is good he really analyzes the word. God bless him
@aaronstately
@aaronstately 4 жыл бұрын
hes not, he is wrong.
@RedPillOfTheBible
@RedPillOfTheBible 4 жыл бұрын
He is a good guy, but he still lacks of understanding.
@RedPillOfTheBible
@RedPillOfTheBible 4 жыл бұрын
When you go forth to war against your enemies, and the LORD your God has delivered them into your hands, and you have taken them captive, And see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire to her, that you would have her to your wife; Then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in your house, and mourn her father and her mother a full month: and after that you shall go in to her, and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. Deuteronômio 21:10-13
@TheRealMonnie
@TheRealMonnie 4 жыл бұрын
@@RedPillOfTheBible you are looking at the order of the wording and assuming causality. I don't think you can do that.
@RedPillOfTheBible
@RedPillOfTheBible 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealMonnie What are you referring to, what do you mean?
@jimgordon7305
@jimgordon7305 Жыл бұрын
A very good answer. I am glad that you are taking us back to the Bible and theology behind marriage. It is good that you also explain the variety of ceremonies in the Bible
@Tessacndk
@Tessacndk Жыл бұрын
His teaching was very accurate and true! Definitely Spirit led 🙌🏽
@rachell7744
@rachell7744 4 жыл бұрын
So glad you talked about this. A pastor told me that sex is marriage if you are committed to each other emotionally or been together for a long time. When I started to question this I was told I was being to legalistic about it. He also mentioned that Adam and eve did not have a marriage ceremony so it's ok to sleep with a long term boyfriend.
@fredarroyo7429
@fredarroyo7429 4 жыл бұрын
Well then it wouldnt be called sleeping with a long term boyfriend anymore right? It would be called sleeling with your husband.
@martbell1493
@martbell1493 3 жыл бұрын
wrong, like Fred say, its now your husband, for rest of life, good luck:D
@originalmix2546
@originalmix2546 Жыл бұрын
that pastor is deceived. And wants to justify lust and following flesh... Please, check for yourself what the Bible says and pray for conviction
@flakamulata
@flakamulata Жыл бұрын
I have spent YEARS looking for this exact answer. I searched for it in the video you mentioned about marriage but didn't find it, i suppose i didn't finish it. But this finallyyyy answered my decade long quesiton. Thank youu!! My main question which you answered, is basically: "what is even considered marriage?" I just couldn't get a definitive answer from anyone. "But why tho", i always asked myself. Now i understand why it needs to be a "public" thing and why ceremonies are usually the way to go. Also, it's a very intentional, conscious commitment to enter a "convenant". I suppose it's like being intentional with your salvation- you are conscious of your decision to give your life to the Lord and enter his covenant, which is for eternity. Thank you again.
@MrApex04
@MrApex04 Жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I've ever heard. Why don't most more people give this expletives of marriage. Lots of people look to me for wisdom and I wish I would have told so many people exactly this years ago.
@jenniferwenger6925
@jenniferwenger6925 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow!! I will get to watch Pastor Mike Live for the first time!! How exciting. I was married and divorced at 16 before I was saved and 13 years my now husband struggled so hard to marry me because of that. We almost broke it off completely until the Lord spoke to him and said “ I have forgiven her, why cannot you” and because of that and blocking out everyone else that told him not too; we have been married 2 wonderful years. So I say there is definitely a place for divorce and remarriage. BUT it is a very small window that it is right in.
@HumbleDaughterofJesus
@HumbleDaughterofJesus Жыл бұрын
Greetings Sister. I urge you to seek the LORD JESUS on this. GOD cannot go against His word in scripture.
@darko714
@darko714 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather, who grew up in rural South Dakota in the early 1900s, told me this: Whenever a couple of teenagers were caught having sex behind the barn (a frequent occurence) , their families would meet after interrogating the copulators, and arrange a wedding. If you were old enough to be screwing, you were old enough to assume all the responsibilities of adulthood. It didn't mean that you WERE married, it only meant that you were GETTING married. P.S. Those couples usually stayed together through thick and thin.
@BraxtonHunter
@BraxtonHunter 4 жыл бұрын
This was a really helpful video. One of the great things about this channel is Mike's willingness to get into the details of specific and practical issues believers want to know about.
@Iffmeister
@Iffmeister 4 жыл бұрын
Both of y'all channels are most necessary
@BiblicalChristianSteve
@BiblicalChristianSteve 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you think that with such an important issue as sex, that if sex outside of marriage was a sin that Father God would have stated that explicitly? He told us not to steal, not to covet, not to lie all stated explicitly. But with something as important as sex, which involves the Holy Spirit, never once in the Word of God does it directly state DO NOT HAVE SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE. Yet so many so called teachers are so certain that it is a sin to have sex outside of marriage. It is appalling how teachers still convey their interpretations and opinions as Scriptural fact, even after knowing how Christ Jesus scolded the Pharisees for doing the exact same thing. There are many men who are seen as good in God's eyes in Scripture that had sex outside of marriage. And the act of sex outside of marriage alone was NEVER, NOT ONCE, in and of itself shown to be a transgression. David, Solomon, Samson, Abraham, and the list goes on, all had sex outside of marriage. It was never the sex by itself that was the sin. There was always an accompanying bad act that was the sin, i.e, Adultery, not trusting the LORD, telling secrets to pagan women (Samson), etc. What is the lesson here about sex as actually portrayed in Scripture? Sex outside of marriage CAN LEAD TO SIN, therefore, you better be sure you can be of sound enough mind to not let it lead you to sin if you choose to do so. However, in and of itself SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE IS NOT A SIN. The audacity of "teachers" today is the same as in the time of the Pharisees. How can otherwise intelligent people make such obvious misinterpretations and pass on false teachings? Sex is a hugely important issue to mankind, to God, and to Scripture. If sex outside of marriage was a sin, why would anyone think that God would not simply tell us 'Do not have sex outside of marriage'? Yet that commandment never appears anywhere in the Scripture. Don't overcomplicate this. Sometimes common sense prevails. Show me a chapter or verse in Scripture that proves otherwise.
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor Жыл бұрын
​@@BiblicalChristianSteve Umm.. there's an entire commandment against adultery. Not only that but Jesus said if you even look at a woman with lust, it's as if you had committed adultery.
@BiblicalChristianSteve
@BiblicalChristianSteve Жыл бұрын
@@EssenceofPureFlavor Yes I'm aware of the 6th commandment. When I say sex outside the confines of marriage, I mean having sex with someone you're in a relationship with but not married to. I'm not talking about being married to someone and having sex with someone else who isn't your spouse. But I'll say it again, I'm just searching for the truth of what the Scriptures say. I could be completely wrong and having sex without being married is always a sin. I truly don't know the answer. My concern is that believers get married to someone too soon and someone they shouldn't be married to just because the think having sex without being married is always a sin. Fornication means prostitution at the time the Bible was written
@Aquascape_Dreaming
@Aquascape_Dreaming Жыл бұрын
​@@BiblicalChristianSteve it might not implicitly state it in those exact words, but it's most definitely implied. The problem most people have is that they see a piece of paper and assume God has no part in 'what the state requires'. This is pure nonsense. Signing a marriage contract and being legally listed as married does not go against, not contradict God's idea of marriage. If anything it affirms it further, because if the state thinks highly and seriously enough about marriage as to make it a matter of legality, then that echoes God's sentiment. Christian's relationship with Christ is a form of legal contract too. The blood debt was paid for the price of sin. Since earthly marriage is a reflection of the relationship between Christ and the Church, it isn't a stretch to say that men and women are forming a covenant between one another when they enter marriage. In Old testament times, 2 men entering into a contract with one another would kill and half an animal. Together they would walk between those halves as a symbol of what would happen should either of them choose to renege on the contract. It was considered legally binding, also. Don't be like those that want to dilute the importance of legal marriage in God's eyes. It's not a Catholic thing, not a protestant thing. It's propriety and obedience to God, even if it requires the representation of an institution.
@beccayourneighbor
@beccayourneighbor 4 жыл бұрын
So many people are led astray on this doctrine, but it is important to understand this correctly. This video is perfect and so helpful. Thank you for making it separately.
@mrmonay
@mrmonay Жыл бұрын
A ceremony is not required or biblical, but a covenant or commitment certainly seems to be a crucial part of it.
@megan_michelle19
@megan_michelle19 21 күн бұрын
@@mrmonay I believe that the two main things are: a healthy, God fearing led committed relationship, and sexual relations as God intended.
@VictorMateo001
@VictorMateo001 4 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine came up with the same question a few weeks ago. His whole point was that we can have sex with our couple before getting married. Saying that as long we are committed as a serious couple, that counts as a marriage to God. He also mentions the couples in the old testament like Jacob and Leah and Adam and Eve; that they were simply recognized by God as a married couple and that's all you need today too. That ceremony is not required in order to have sex as long as we are committed to each other. I think that it is just his excuse to have premarital sex with his girlfriend. I'm happy Pastor Mike is doing a study about this. God bless you.
@ea-tr1jh
@ea-tr1jh 4 жыл бұрын
Mmmm. Yeah that sounds like an excuse to skip the ceremony. Does he actually consider himself to be married to his girlfriend? Although this is an extremely unlikely situation, if your in one where you can't have a ceremony or anything or you're in a country where you don't sign a legal document, I think if you truly consider yourself married to the person, and they feel the same, and you verbally make that commitment/promise to them and them to you, and if you both would actually tell someone that your married if they ask, then you'd be married. I mean he is technically right in the sense that a ceremony doesnt define a marriage. But does he actually consider himself married to his girl? And does she feel the same? Did they verbally make a lifelong commitment to eachother *and* agree, "we're married"? Is there a legitimate excuse of why they don't have a legal contract or ceremony(money?)? Or does he only say that he is married to justify the sex?
@flora20
@flora20 4 жыл бұрын
Jacob and Leah were married though that’s why Jacob was cross because he was tricked into marrying her when he thought he was marrying Rachel.
@adamjones6473
@adamjones6473 4 жыл бұрын
Adam and Eve were married Genesis 4:4 and Adam knew Eve his wife and she conceived and bore cain...
@VictorMateo001
@VictorMateo001 4 жыл бұрын
@@ea-tr1jh Thank you very much for the response. You have touched many interesting topics, and yes, my friend does think that a "lifelong commitment" to his girlfriend is valid to have sex her and viewed as a marriage in the eyes of God. My country is very religious, mostly Roman Catholic, therefore many, although valuing the tradition and sacrament of getting married according to that doctrine, do no really fallow it and jump into premarital sex and 70% present of the time end up in what we call here as an "OPEN UNION". Meaning that we are like married to society, even with a house and kids, but never really married by law. Then the whole subject, religious ways, begs the question, WHEN ARE WE ACTUALLY MARRIED TO GOD? I really struggled to make a case debating my friend the other day because he kept pointing out examples in the old testament of couples that do not show a ceremony when they considered married. But of course, one can debate that that is an argument from silence; maybe they did get married but the bible doesn't say. But then, when you talk about fornication, the bible does make difference between that and adultery. And the apostle Paul advises us to marry; is that only for Jewish culture? because that was another point from my friend, saying that the wedding of Cana was one of a few examples of weddings in the bible, but that applies only to a jew. And Answering your last question, I think money should not be a factor if we want to honor God, just do a small private wedding, God is the drive, not pride; once finances get better, we can always renew or vows with the big ceremony (symbolic) that we wanted. But yes, In our culture and tradition, weddings a fancy and costly, because it's supposed to be a very important family event, and of course, the "family get together/party" sense of it. And lastly, I do think he is just trying to justify sex.
@AirChurch
@AirChurch 4 жыл бұрын
While the ceremony can be dispensed with, it provides an important venue for a public declaration of marriage which is key. Moreover, a loving union of a man and a woman is something to be celebrated. Why rob the community of the blessing?
@ekeneemenike4881
@ekeneemenike4881 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you back everything with scripture. "Study to show yourself approved"😁😁
@RedPillOfTheBible
@RedPillOfTheBible 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, with scripture but, he is studing the scripture without even knowing he has this catholic glasses.
@theautisticpage
@theautisticpage 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone can take any subject and use scripture to support it.
@RedPillOfTheBible
@RedPillOfTheBible 4 жыл бұрын
@@theautisticpage yes, you're right
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
@@theautisticpage the divorce and remarriage for adultery doctrine is based solely on the supposed guilt of the wife in Matthew 5:32, and Matthew 19:9. However, the wife in Matthew 5:31-32 is clearly not guilty of fornication because the Jews that Jesus was speaking to were still living under the law, and if fornication was discovered, there was a moral obligation to report the offender according to Deuteronomy 22:13-24. The wife, who would have been found guilty of fornication, was subsequently stoned to death, according to the law, which had still governed the Jews up until Christ's death on the cross. The same for a woman caught in adultery, according to Leviticus 20:10. How could a wife, guilty of fornication, or adultery, under the law of Moses, be given a writing of divorcement and be caused to commit adultery with whosoever marries her, that is divorced? Jesus is clear, in these examples, that the wife is not guilty of fornication, but is still caused to commit adultery if she marries another man now that she is divorced. This is the only way that Matthew 5:31-32, and Matthew 19:9 keep harmony with Romans 7:2-3, and 1 Corinthians 7:39. Unlike the synoptic gospels of Mark and Luke, which were written to evangelize the Gentiles, Matthew was written to the Jews, and has of 24 characteristics that identify it as intended for the house of Israel. The ancient Jews called the betrothed (engaged) "husband" and "wife" according to Deuteronomy 22:23-24, Matthew 1:18-25, and Luke 2:5-7. Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage) was never for fornication or adultery. Allowing those guilty of fornication and adultery to remain living and become a prospect for remarriage was against the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22:13-24 and Leviticus 20:10, which commanded that those who were found guilty of fornication and adultery be put away from Israel, and stoned to death. The law of Moses was not given to the world, only to the Jews. From the exodus, to Christ's death on the cross, the law of Moses governed the Jewish people. But when Jesus died on the cross, he caused the Jews to be dead to the law of Moses so they could be joined to Christ under a New Covenant. This is what Jesus's fulfillment of the law of Moses, including Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage), means. Paul gave several warnings to Christian believers against keeping the law of Moses over following Christ and his commands under the New Covenant with Christ. Keeping the whole law is no longer possible for those in Israel and that is why Christ prophesied that the temple would be destroyed. These scriptures make it clear that if you choose the law over Christ, that you must keep the whole law: Romans 7:4, Galatians 3:1-9, Galatians 3:10-29, Galatians 4:1-7, Galatians 4:21-31, and Galatians 5:1-15. Being unequally yoked to unbelievers is not a cause for divorce, once two become one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, according to 1 Corinthians 7:12-14. Many one-flesh covenant marriages between unbelievers are recognized by God in the scriptures, most notably the marriage covenants between Herodias and King Herod's brother Philip, Potiphar and his wife, Ahab and Jezebel, and Ruth to her deceased husband Mahlon by Boaz when he took her to be his wife. Some are teaching that 1 Corinthians 7:15 implies that those who are abandoned by the unbeliever, are "no longer bound" in a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The reason this is in conflict is due to the way some translations word it, which gives it an entirely different meaning, and context. 1 Corinthians 7:15, says, "But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace." As you can see, the actual scripture says "not enslaved" which means that the husband or wife is not enslaved to sin with the unbelieving spouse, and is free to worship Christ in peace. Subsequent translations have changed the words to imply that they nullify the marriage covenant, which is not at all the case. The issue that this creates is with 1 Corinthians 7:10-11, which says, "10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife." As you can see, those who claim 1 Corinthians 7:15 shows the Apostle Paul giving permission to remarry do not understand the command, that Christ gives is to an abandoned husband, in 1 Corinthians 7:11, is that he "must not divorce" his wife, and his wife is commanded to "remain unmarried or else be reconciled" to her husband. The theory that 1 Corinthians 7:15 nullifies two as being one-flesh in marriage puts the Apostle Paul directly at odds with Christ, by implying that Paul has issued an opposing command. Some also teach that 1 Corinthians 7:27-28 is referring to both divorced men and virgin women, and not exclusively to men and women (virgins) who have never been married. This has been falsely taught for some time in churches as referring to anyone who is not currently in a marriage, which, for them, also includes those who are divorced. This is a very false assumption, and puts these verses in a different context, that is at odds with both the teachings of Christ and the apostle Paul. We see Paul refer to virgins, which signifies the unmarried who have never before been wed, which is the proper context here. We see Paul saying clearly that it is good for virgins, which is also speaking to never before wed men here, "that it is good for a man so to be." He goes on to say, "Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife." Who is he referring to here? Men who, like himself, have never married. The word "bound", in these verses, is a clear reference to betrothal (engagement) and not to a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The ancient Jews were considered bound as husband and wife during the betrothal (espousal/engagement) before becoming one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, through consummation. This is affirmed by the context of the term "bound" seen in Numbers 30:14-16. The Jewish couples in ancient Israel, who were betrothed (engaged) were also bound together until death, either by execution for fornication, or by other causes. Then Paul says, "But and if thou marry, thou has not sinned", which is who? The men who had never married in the congregation at Corinth. So he begins with verses 25-26 speaking exclusively to men that have never married. Paul then says, "and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned", which is speaking directly in regard to virgin women who have never been married, within the congregation, not divorced women. Notice that verse 34 says, "There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband." Paul speaks plainly when he says "there is a difference between a wife and a virgin." Paul goes on to say, "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry." This is speaking of a virgin who has become of age to bear children when it says, "let them marry." This is a clear command, to a single man, who has taken a virgin to be his wife. Paul then says, "Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well." This is referring again to the single man who decides it is better not to marry, but to stay betrothed (engaged), under the present distress, by saying that he "hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin." Paul then says, "So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better", which again means single men, in the congregation, who have betrothed a wife, do well if they marry, and those who choose not to marry their virgin brides do better, under the current climate. For more proper context of the word "bound", let's look further down in this chapter to verse 39, which says, "39The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord" (1 Corinthians 7:39). For so long, these scriptures, between verses 25-38, have been twisted and used to enable divorce and remarriage, by wayward churches and teachers, and have caused many to stumble and to be trapped in unscriptural unions. The use of the woman at the well, in regard to marriage, falsely implies that Christ was endorsing remarriage after a divorce. This teaching is in defiance of Matthew 22:23-28, which shows a woman who had been widowed seven times, and entered into each subsequent marriage without any scriptural conflicts with God's law of marriage (one-flesh covenant) seen in Genesis 2:23-24. Mark 10:1-12 and Matthew 19:1-12 both record Christ's teaching that day beyond the Jordan. There is no mention of the words "fornication", "writing of divorcement", or "divorced" in Mark's Gospel, because Mark was not written to the Jews (as Matthew's Gospel was), but to evangelize the Romans and Greeks, who had no knowledge of the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22 or Deuteronomy 24. All of these facts draw a clear understanding that remarriage after a divorce, under the New Covenant with Christ, is a scripturally false and baseless teaching. Please use wisdom when living in any situation against what the scriptures command.
@nickwadson5731
@nickwadson5731 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 This false supposition (indissoluble marriage) is often imposed on the text because the standard for marriage is lifelong. There is an inherent principle in marriage to cleave (Matthew 19:5) unto each the other till death. But absolutely no one in scripture makes the argument that divorce does not dissolve the marriage. No one in either Old or New Testament has ever been told that they are “still married in God’s eyes.” Conversely the termination of the marriage is absolutely necessary in order for the manner of adultery to occur to which Jesus describes. “indissoluble marriage” is a false supposition imposed on scripture by those who can not explain how adultery can follow a terminated marriage. They have a fixed definition for adultery that will not allow them to comprehend that Jesus revealed that adultery can happen in different ways. In other words adultery does not exclusively result from infidelity within marriage as believed by the Pharisees and many today. If one has the integrity to acknowledge they have advocated false suppositions they can begin to form biblical limits for understanding this oft misunderstood issue. Reading Moses, Jesus and Paul congruously will produce limits for instructing others properly about divorce and remarriage.
@devroom8904
@devroom8904 3 жыл бұрын
I have many people talk about the spiritual bond you create with sexual partners, I never could find the verse for it. I am glad you started with it.
@357QueenBee
@357QueenBee 4 жыл бұрын
I love long teachings. Short ones are great for people with limited time. Both formats work. Different audiences.
@mikeelarana3768
@mikeelarana3768 4 жыл бұрын
So good! I'm glad you're doing these shorter, more searchable videos. I think they are really helpful!
@warneachothereverydayheb.3406
@warneachothereverydayheb.3406 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike! You got this right! Nailed it! I have ran into some people that have the false assumption that sex is marriage. I agree that with your verbal commitment/vows, like with salvation, "if you will confess, Jesus is Lord (which means master)", you are making a covenant. Otherwise you are just "shacking up".
@Im-wk6vw
@Im-wk6vw Жыл бұрын
I really love and appreciate your desire to touch all of these difficult and confusing topics. I'm able to see what I was taught as a kid, and what was left out! I was always taught to wait until marriage, but I never knew why. I thought it was something that benefitted my parents, and not me. Of course I was a teen who thought I knew better! But I was missing so many important details. I would love to express these topics to my kids when it's time. I want them to hold these ideals dear, because I can see how much it's affected my life vs friends and family around me.
@MainframeSupertasker
@MainframeSupertasker Жыл бұрын
YOU NAILED IT. ONLINE ANSWERS ARE SO INSUFFICIENT
@vickim6990
@vickim6990 4 жыл бұрын
You are definitely one of the best teachers. Your demeanor is peaceful, you really desire for people to learn. Love that. Thank you sir.
@xXWarBeastXx18634
@xXWarBeastXx18634 Жыл бұрын
This was a much needed explanation and actually it would be beneficial to dive even deeper. I also bought into sex equaling marriage. This is a really important conversation
@colmwhateveryoulike3240
@colmwhateveryoulike3240 4 жыл бұрын
I think separating into smaller videos is an excellent idea. I have lots of your long videos on my watch list and have watched a good number but for whatever psychological reason, I commit to youtube videos longer than 20 minutes or so less often. There are definite merits to the long expositions but I think adding more short ones to mix it up will draw in more people and ironically people like me will probably be more likely to watch more of your long content when it is broken into bite sized chunks.
@lisacotts7539
@lisacotts7539 Жыл бұрын
The 3 C's: ceremony (public celebration/statement), covenant (vows of a lifelong commitment with God), and consummation (two flesh become one after the vows)
@Apollos2.2
@Apollos2.2 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this single topic Q/A format! Searchable and easy to share! Thanks you Mike, keep up the good work.👍
@martyloveurquizo6594
@martyloveurquizo6594 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike! I love this content format! It was very digestible. Although I love the long videos which I tend to watch them as podcasts. This was great to sit through and save to go back to. Can’t wait for more short biblical answers like these! 🙏🏼
@kennethmacgregor6427
@kennethmacgregor6427 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I was taught 35 years ago by a person who claimed sex and marriage were the same. They were wrong about this and many other issues. Your video helped me better understand this subject.
@Nadiahope7
@Nadiahope7 11 күн бұрын
Great advice and wished I'd found this sooner. I was saved unmarried and was a new ager so my then partner stayed in that life and still is nearly 5 years on. I had terrible advice from my church and a "friend" initially in faith when I was just born again telling me to act as if I was married, the Holy Spirit had to make it so obvious that I had to leave but the church didn't support me and neither did anyone else. I was told I was married as we lived together and had children together. He didn't want marriage of any kind. If I'd just heard this it would have saved a year of pain but God uses all things. I'm not due to marry a born again believing man. Praise God.
@Nicole-jx5qe
@Nicole-jx5qe 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question, I’m so very grateful! My partner is a non believer but understands that my faith is important to me so he is willing to do whatever to make our union a biblical marriage ❤️ God bless you Mike, your ministry is a huge blessing in my life 😊
@igwtbran9943
@igwtbran9943 3 жыл бұрын
Umm huh?
@matthewfunk6658
@matthewfunk6658 3 жыл бұрын
Nicole, marrying an unbeliever would be an unbiblical marriage. In no way was Pastor Mike endorsing you marry an unbeliever, that would contradict his other plain teaching of the scriptures on biblical marriage.
@michaeljennings8221
@michaeljennings8221 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewfunk6658 well that escalated quickly 😂😂
@rainerweishaupl1103
@rainerweishaupl1103 2 жыл бұрын
God forbids you to marry an unbeliever. That is, if you are born-again! If not, then let it fly.
@DrDoerk
@DrDoerk 2 жыл бұрын
Don't marry him..... I'm sorry, but you shouldn't. God commands us to be equally yoked with our spouse. Your BF is not equally yoked, he is a non believer. I obviously don't know your whole story, but I'd get help from a strong believer that knows you. Itll be hard, but you should breakup with this guy.
@AllanRochez
@AllanRochez Жыл бұрын
This makes sooooooo much more sense to me it’s the ceremonial aspect that I was lacking understanding on thanks for this video Pastor Mike God bless you amen
@alanbutler7712
@alanbutler7712 4 жыл бұрын
In the USA, each state may also have laws on their books that will specify at what point you are married. For instance, in Texas your marriage can be legally binding by stating you are married in public, like when checking into a motel/hotel, or introducing each other to friends. There are also common law marriages which are based on living together for a certain length of time, (7 years or 13 years, etc...). But IMO, this does not replace the clear statement of commitment to each other that you would have by getting a marriage license, etc. Well done on the presentation Mike!!
@paulcosta8297
@paulcosta8297 3 жыл бұрын
That's all manmade BS and completely irrelevant to this video. The ""government"" calls two men ""married"".
@brian.jrmontoya3227
@brian.jrmontoya3227 Жыл бұрын
@@paulcosta8297 can’t two men be married?
@semi2893
@semi2893 Жыл бұрын
@@brian.jrmontoya3227 Nope.
@hankdutton8896
@hankdutton8896 Жыл бұрын
Be encouraged. Thanks you again Mike. Keep up the great work. Some people are not able to receive a long video, some will receive a shorter version. Later they may receive the longer one. Biblical truth videos can be short or long, the Lord will use every medium to reach them I have found. Something, something short attention spans.
@ta2107
@ta2107 4 жыл бұрын
This a question I had for a very long time, thank you.
@danielo3200
@danielo3200 Жыл бұрын
Very educational. Was looking for a simple biblical explanation to take back to "reasoning" people who opts out the 'witnesses' and the commitment before men and God. Love when you break it down and and explain so people can understand and take a stand for the values of God. Thank you Mike🙂
@taylorthetunafish5737
@taylorthetunafish5737 Жыл бұрын
Why do you find false and misinformation to be educational? Why does your god command you to murder people who aren't like you? Why is there nothing reasonable in the bible?
@RedPillOfTheBible
@RedPillOfTheBible 4 жыл бұрын
If ceremony or papers are required to become husband and wife, so, how do you explain this text: When you go forth to war against your enemies, and the LORD your God has delivered them into your hands, and you have taken them captive, And see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire to her, that you would have her to your wife; Then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in your house, and mourn her father and her mother a full month: and after that you shall go in to her, and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. Deuteronomy 21: 10-13 ?????
@AGR091
@AGR091 3 ай бұрын
@@RedPillOfTheBible this sounds like a ceremony. Shaving her head, preparing her nails, etc. Like he said. Adultery wouldn’t be a thing it would be poligamy.
@jesslove8372
@jesslove8372 5 ай бұрын
This is so insightful. Thank you.
@multiwebinc
@multiwebinc 7 ай бұрын
I agree that marriage is a lifelong commitment, but I don't see in scripture that it is necessarily a *public* commitment or ceremony. There is also no command in scripture that a public commitment must be made. The two examples used (Adam/Eve and Isaac/Rebekah) seem like a stretch to call them public ceremonies.
@lornathesewist
@lornathesewist 4 жыл бұрын
I love this format and I can easily share the specific question/answer posts. Thank you
@UriyahYasharal
@UriyahYasharal 4 жыл бұрын
Great job! I also think the shorter videos work better for your audience (and for you too with the KZbin algorithm). God bless you Pastor Mike.
@LouisaWatt
@LouisaWatt Жыл бұрын
In our current culture we’ve lost the concept of family bonds. Grandparents used to be an indivisible unit and parents were supposed to be the same. Now nothing lasts or has any stability because we fundamentally lack any integrity to commit.
@DanSutherland
@DanSutherland 4 жыл бұрын
I think you presented a really good case for why sex alone isn't marriage, but not why anyone needs a particular sort of ceremony. I don't think that's really a requirement. Commitment to each other is necessary and another comment pointed out independence and the nature of it pretty well with a decent set of verses . So for the original question, I'd say she doesn't need a Ceremony as much as she needs to have complete affirmation with the man she's with that they are in agreement that they are completely married. (Which should be publicly recognizable, as far as I can understand. Although I don't think there's really a hard rule on what the looks like specifically.) But if there is any doubt then they probably should take whatever steps they need to quell it, which potentially may mean having some sort of officiated wedding however simple that may be.
@jorgeleon1689
@jorgeleon1689 4 жыл бұрын
um. That was actually a very useful video. Thanks for using verses to back up every point. God bless.
@andyb619
@andyb619 Жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians uses "one body" in the Greek, whereas Ephesians refers to one "flesh". Yeah I really get ick about people claiming that the one body (in the Greek) with a prostitute is somehow equivalent to the one flesh (Ephesians 5) and one Spirit (Malachi 2:14). Malachi 2:15 clearly teaches that marriage is by covenant and Ephesians 5 shows that it is inaugurated in intimacy. If fornication is a sin how can it give rise to marriage. If it is marriage, how is it considered sin. Just because the text didn't refer to the ceremony, doesn't mean it didn't.
@Alanpless
@Alanpless 4 жыл бұрын
My friend literally last week or so asked me about this and I wanna hear what you have to say Mr. Expositor Winger!! Praise God
@rembrandt972ify
@rembrandt972ify 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer: No Long answer: NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@bashirjimoh7851
@bashirjimoh7851 4 жыл бұрын
Love the short version of the teaching. Well done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@VictorMateo001
@VictorMateo001 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for this study. I was unable to post the question las week for the Q&A following the "Marriage, Divorce and Remarriage" video but Miss Sarah from the BibleThinker Team was really big help when I reached the team with a few questions about the same topic the other day. To Miss Sarah, Pastor Mike, and all the team, regards from the Dominican Republic. I hope you guys are all safe and healthy.
@hardleyvries2146
@hardleyvries2146 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering some very important questions here that I have had and wondered for a long time
@christinewind6459
@christinewind6459 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for making all these small videos! They really help! Great idea!
@UnAnonKnown
@UnAnonKnown Ай бұрын
I struggle with the idea that anyone would ever believe this to be true. The Biblical marriage vows are so deep, so encompassing. One cannot “accidentally” make them. Nothing short of intentional and freely-given marriage vows … given without cohesion … and with full mental capacity … and with full understanding of what you’re getting into … counts.
@aumtheaum3827
@aumtheaum3827 Жыл бұрын
I’m married 43 years now. We married at a justice of the peace.
@therichchronicles1249
@therichchronicles1249 Жыл бұрын
After only watching one video, im subscribed, great video
@dayenayuba7580
@dayenayuba7580 4 жыл бұрын
So much eye opening God bless you bro
@christopherleewilliams33
@christopherleewilliams33 Жыл бұрын
Well said and clearly explained Mike. Thank you!
@SmayNakamoto
@SmayNakamoto Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Mike!
@HaLo_Zz
@HaLo_Zz 4 жыл бұрын
First time to be on Mike’s chat, and glad I am able to attend. :)
@hazevilleflowers5477
@hazevilleflowers5477 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👏. Well explained. Thank you. God bless 😊🙏🏻
@ec1222
@ec1222 Жыл бұрын
This was a really excellent analysis, thanks pastor
@flora20
@flora20 4 жыл бұрын
@mike winger Personally I much prefer a longer video if it’s an actual teaching as I like to get stuck into it, however these short videos can be good as a follow up Q&A because I think they’d be good for future reference. Hope you’re ok Mike keeping you and your family in my prayers x
@charliethomas4250
@charliethomas4250 4 жыл бұрын
Love the new format Mike, topic handled very well too. Keep up the good work.
@lyndavillarreal5792
@lyndavillarreal5792 4 жыл бұрын
This has been on my mind! cant wait.
@ToothpikcOriginal
@ToothpikcOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
The quality has improved :) Good job Pastor Mike
@Ecool27
@Ecool27 4 жыл бұрын
Ouuuu this is what I always wanted to know
@JesusProtects
@JesusProtects 4 жыл бұрын
He's wrong tho. Genesis clearly teaches this, he is adding up to the text.
@RedPillOfTheBible
@RedPillOfTheBible 4 жыл бұрын
@@JesusProtects yes he is wrong. Catholicism created these wrong ideas about marriage
@ferchinc
@ferchinc 4 жыл бұрын
Something that you did not mention at the end of the video, besides getting married, people must repent for their sin, sexual inmorality, it is not just -"ok! I am married now! I am no longer living in that sin"-. Yes, that´s fine! but do not forget you lived in a sin that needs repentance, if you don't have/feel it, ask God to receive it..
@gabrieldimitrov7785
@gabrieldimitrov7785 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. That was a huge help. God bless you. Thank you for your diligence. Greetings from Germany.
@christophersmith8014
@christophersmith8014 Жыл бұрын
The ceremony is mostly meant for social accountability to help you honor the covenant when things get hard. It could be said that you aren't really married as long as divorce is an option, because you only really know what it means to be married when the only way to leave the relationship is to die. This would also mean that as long as two people share that commitment to one another they don't need a ceremony to be married. But if they are avoiding the ceremony, they probably aren't committed.
@andyb619
@andyb619 Жыл бұрын
The uttering of the covenant publically is the point of the ceremony and the basis for the marriage (Malachi 2:14). One flesh is what it becomes once inaugurated by intimacy.
@BB25_25
@BB25_25 Жыл бұрын
“And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth,..” Genesis‬ ‭1‬:‭28‬ ‭KJV‬‬ - marriage is God’s blessing, his first covenant
@sheilam5991
@sheilam5991 5 күн бұрын
Yes, thank you for breaking it up. Been wanting to watch the "complete" video but just can't commit to it.
@worldchanger7197
@worldchanger7197 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro Mike for the great explanation on the "stay together". This is a serious issue faced by many in our socialites today. However, you did not address the spiritual implication/consequences of the "stay together" because it is considered a fornication in the biblical view. This will help draw the line for anyone thinking of taking that path in the future. Hope you can address that in the next video. God bless you!!
@CA-rs8rw
@CA-rs8rw 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos! They shed light on some serious topics!
@cynthiagarcia5705
@cynthiagarcia5705 4 жыл бұрын
So needed this ! Thank you for your videos 🙌💕
@libertyandjustus8258
@libertyandjustus8258 Жыл бұрын
I have listened/watched Pastor Mike for years now....I have yet to disagree with him and in fact have learned so much from him. I have been a Christ Follower for 40+ years. This man has been gifted with wisdom and the speech to bring it to us. I'm not saying, follow Pastor Winger, I'm saying follow Christ ....and if you need direction on new issues facing our world today....listen to Pastor Mike. He will not steer you wrong.
@thingsilove18
@thingsilove18 4 жыл бұрын
So are "soul ties" biblical then? Especially soul ties in the sense that these "ties" need to be broken before you move on from sexual sin?
@krakoosh1
@krakoosh1 4 жыл бұрын
thingsilove18 what?
@ryanbryancyan
@ryanbryancyan 4 жыл бұрын
@@krakoosh1 exactly
@nikokapanen82
@nikokapanen82 4 жыл бұрын
I believe soul ties does happen to some people, like one pastor told how one guy complained about the problem, he had a sexual relationship with his girlfriends but eventually got married and was unable to have sex with his wife because all he sees before him is his past girlfriend. I had a ver strong ties with a spiritual "wife" the demon with whom i used to have sex when i was taking drugs. God was cleansing me for 5 last years from that demon and i am still not completely pure of it. Its like it rooted into my soul and became one body with me.
@FromWarWithLove
@FromWarWithLove 4 жыл бұрын
Soul ties are not biblical. Your soul is not attached to another person’s soul once you have sex. The Scriptures say that *bodies* are joined together and we know that our bodies are not souls, but vessels that house our inner beings. Our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit and we must not yoke ourselves to unbelievers, nor have sex outside of marriage. Though the concept of a soul tie is unbiblical, there is of course an effect that sex has on people. Sex is deeply intimate and personal; it’s the physical response to a life-long commitment. We should be cautious and not have pre-marital, nor extra-marital sex.
@mcr5577
@mcr5577 4 жыл бұрын
@@FromWarWithLove actually the definition of your soul is your body or physical living being ....when you look up the definition of soul in hebrew ( nephesh )
@jwm66
@jwm66 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Teaching.
@temitopeok9883
@temitopeok9883 4 жыл бұрын
This was really helpful, thanks Mike. Praying for you and family. I’ve got questions regarding vows, are marriage vows biblical?, where does this tradition come from? I’ve been thinking about this especially as my church have been studying the sermon on the mount, and this question was raised from Matthew 5 vs 33-37 on Oaths- Are making promises and vows valid in marriages or are we doing this in the right way? Thanks for diligently seeking truth in God 🙏🙌
@DolioFoilio
@DolioFoilio 2 жыл бұрын
Wow just wow... Mike this was just great. Every word so purposefully chosen & well explained. Just what I was looking for. God bless you immensely! 😀
@kcmuanpuia
@kcmuanpuia 4 жыл бұрын
You missed one more thing.... Marriage has legal implications. It has something to do whatever legal environment you are in, there has to be a valid consent. Jesus also discussed with the Jews about divorce and Moses' law.
@driekiesieberhagen2562
@driekiesieberhagen2562 Жыл бұрын
Great teaching! Thnx brother....Truth!
@CitizenShane
@CitizenShane 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, what are your thoughts on only having the ceremony (making the vows publicly in front of family and friends) but NOT signing the legal contract and getting a marriage license? Does it require Uncle Sam and his legally binding contract to make it righteous in God's eyes? Just seems like an absurd concept to get Uncle Sam involved and quite dangerous for the breadwinner, too.
@vadinandez
@vadinandez 4 жыл бұрын
We are to follow the laws of the land. That means a legally binding marriage and certificate, here in our country.
@paulcosta8297
@paulcosta8297 3 жыл бұрын
@@vadinandez Get behind me Satan. You are such a profound ignoramus adding to scripture and pretending that there is even a criminal law requiring a marriage contract. You words are evil and accuse the Founding Fathers of sinful rebellion.
@andrewvangils3112
@andrewvangils3112 2 жыл бұрын
@@vadinandez that’s a terrible answer and we really need to understand what the “law of the land” verse is really trying to get at. At no point does the government need to be involved in your bedroom, especially with the laws created today. The license from your state doesn’t verify your commitment, your commitment to your wife before God does and vice versa does. We don’t need to complicate God’s word. Keep in mind though, women will hate this answer because deep down inside they understand the benefits of involving the government for themselves. The biggest red flags to me would be a woman forcing governmental marriage and not signing a prenup. She loves you so much that money doesn’t matter right? So what’s the worry? On the other hand a man no getting a prenup, just means that the government has one in place benefiting the woman, BY DEFAULT.
@ziionn6653
@ziionn6653 2 жыл бұрын
@@vadinandez follow the law of the land? Why twist what was said it was a parable Jesus used to answer a question about tax, and he stated look at the face at the back of the coin, hence give due to the owner of the currency. It never once said you must abide by government intervention and laws in regards to marriage, only tax similar to how it mentioned giving no more than 10% of yearly earnings to the church if you have the means otherwise it wasn't a sin to not contribute.
@nostalkingzone
@nostalkingzone Жыл бұрын
@@andrewvangils3112 A "prenup"? 🤔 It sounds like _somebody_ (maybe someone you know?) got burned....
@leechandler3411
@leechandler3411 5 ай бұрын
Countless times I wish we could have had a good marriage but I have been cursed in life not blessed.
@oranewebley938
@oranewebley938 4 жыл бұрын
Deuteronomy 21:10-13 there were no ceremony ...ceremony is held base on tradition and affordability not by requirements ...ok you right that just sex doesn't make an actual marriage without the consent of both parties or the parents ...say that Adam and Eve had a ceremony thats reaching saying Isaac and Rebecka had a ceremony also reaching the woman at the well now think about it do you think Jesus was saying that she had 5 different cerenomy ? Take the word of God for what it says do not try to be wise in your own opinion the foolishness of God is wiser than man ...God bless you all
@RedPillOfTheBible
@RedPillOfTheBible 4 жыл бұрын
You right
@JohnVandivier
@JohnVandivier 4 жыл бұрын
bless up bro keep preaching with integrity.
@mr.rhino144k2
@mr.rhino144k2 3 жыл бұрын
Mary never had a wedding with Joseph but she was called his wife as soon as she got pregnant .
@taniaalvaart
@taniaalvaart 5 ай бұрын
@mr.rhino144k2 that's because engagement was taken really seriously back then. As soon as you were pledged to be married it was seen as a done deal.
@Mrsg123
@Mrsg123 21 күн бұрын
I recommend researching ancient Jewish marriage customs. The betrothal was a ceremony in and of itself, and the couple was considered married after that, but the bride remained in her father’s house until after the wedding. The betrothal ceremony involved signing a contract and drinking from the same cup of wine to symbolize their covenant. Mary had already done this with Joseph. Note that when Joseph found out Mary was pregnant, he decided to “divorce her quietly.” So yes, they were married in the eyes of Jewish law by that point, but had not consummated the marriage.
@nataliarivera1073
@nataliarivera1073 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic, thanks for bringing it up!
@pauldmckee
@pauldmckee 4 жыл бұрын
May I say that if two come together before the throne and pledge to the Lord that they want to be married and than they join together I feel that is biblical marriage. If later they part then neither of them will be allowed to remarry unless there is a death involved. My opinion from reading God's word. What God has joined let no man separate. Man can not separate what God has joined.
@malakiyahamari8448
@malakiyahamari8448 3 жыл бұрын
This is the truth according to scripture! ✅
@mrmomb
@mrmomb Жыл бұрын
I like the shorts. I tend to skip over anything over 12 minutes.
@stockyphilb7663
@stockyphilb7663 Жыл бұрын
It actually made it easier to stop having promiscuous sex when, in my late 20s, I stopped ignoring that every girl I slept with I "felt" married to. Now I'm in my 40s, have no kids, and have never been married. It's miserable to feel married to 15 or 20 girls but they're all failed relationships. I definitely vote for virginity over promiscuity. Without Jesus I'm pretty worthless.
@bonniewallace9083
@bonniewallace9083 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mike.
@talindakelley189
@talindakelley189 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve often wondered, if two people were married and got divorced but never actually split apart and continued to live together as they were still married, In God’s eyes are they still married or not?
@ziionn6653
@ziionn6653 2 жыл бұрын
Yes unless one of them commits adultery that is the only reason to divorce
@kayoara6116
@kayoara6116 Жыл бұрын
Matthew 19:9
@Standing_on_the_word
@Standing_on_the_word Жыл бұрын
Excellent video bro.
@angiegarcia1635
@angiegarcia1635 4 жыл бұрын
I BELIEVE THATS CALLED fornication😳
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