Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Ending Explained

Interested in the FF7 Rebirth ending? Much like its predecessor, the final chapter of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth heads into weird, uncharted territory, and it can all become a bit confusing. To save you from befuddlement, we’ve studied the Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth ending and the storylines that lead up to it over and over to make sense of it all. And where we can’t make sense of it, we’ve theorised on what it means. Watch now for all those answers, but be warned: there are BIG spoilers for Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth and the original game ahead!
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[@drewstar8611]

‘No promises await at journeys end’ they’re literally saying ‘we’re gonna absolutely off the rails in the last game’ loool

[@thuggothic]

Genesis will be the true antagonist 😂

[@whatareyoudoingyouidiot342]

They said something similar at the end of the first part, and part 2 more or less followed the plot of the first game. Not exactly, no, but it's not far off.

[@Djamp_htx]

They said the same at the end of the first game and that was pretty much a lie

[@daddysgirls4589]

Pretty much. Everything changes next game lol. Sora from kingdom hearts will come a help cloud kill sepiroth 😂😂😂

[@JC-wn7ih]

@@Djamp_htxno they didn’t. They said “The Unknown Journey will continue”

[@YasinYousuf-pc6gq]

Sephiroth thought why mentally break one cloud when you can mess up multiple cloud's lol

[@darmansbar7900]

Gotta respect the commitment

[@SeferAngeloEspiritus]

That is because a mentaly break cloud can't locate the real black materia....

[@Zhello79]

​Also Sephiroth: *drops the black materia after Cloud gave it to him* Pick it up and bring it to me. I'm asserting my dominance.

[@scottfraser193]

Man's going for every cloud ☁️

[@MrReubenTishkoff]

If multiple universes mean multiple Clouds, does that mean there are multiple Sephiroths?

[@ethanf.6848]

Spoiler: The final boss is Chadley.

[@karmakittenz69]

We all know that's going to happen. Chadley is hojo ....

[@epicwolf]

With my playthrough the final boss is 100 Johnny's

[@martianunlimited]

Hmm, Cait Sith's line during the Loveless scene seem like it is foreshadowing... "What is the future, if not the product of choices past? Each a fork in a road. None can divine the conclusion of every path. And yet, all tales that begins with a chance encounter share the same end: a tearful farewell"

[@TheNuts1225]

That's sooooo general though. You could say that about literally any story and it would be true.

[@handsomeDRAC]

Yeah he could've been talking an episode Family Guy. ​@TheNuts1225

[@andrewsimon713]

I’m gonna guess in part 3 omnislash limit break in the final battle will see a multiverse of clouds pop up to slash the ultimate version of Sepiroth.

[@andichua9007]

That's the truth of the omnislash all along. There's always has been more than just 1 cloud. They diverge to do omnislash.

[@patrickmurray3846]

what about knights of the round?

[@SeferAngeloEspiritus]

Thats right infact hamaguchi stated sephiroth can only deal damage when sephiroth was attacked from different universes like what happened in sephiroth reborn form when sephiroth reborn materialized in the singularity (cloud in the edge of creation), terrier timeline/universe (Zack's universe), beagle timeline/universe (tifa and the gang) at the same time....

[@EnergyHunt3r]

saving it for 3 yrs later when this theory proves true.

[@thelongestshadow3389]

Omnislash version 6 has entered the chat

[@TheJooomers]

Well… see you in a few years…

[@alisalem4688]

Depending on how big the game will be. The thing is, Part 3 will be the third act and the climax of the story, so it won't make sense, going around exploring an open world, doing silly side quests and playing mini games while you're racing against time to save the world and stop Sephiroth.

[@mikeprg]

Of course it does, it’s a video game!!

[@GDCDGC]

2028

[@SolomonRasputin]

@@alisalem4688you could run around and do side quests in the original before fighting sephiroth so idk why ur trying to make a “real take” with a video game

[@andywirt7715]

​@@alisalem4688it will most probably be mostly story, fights and action. They really spammed the Minigames in rebirth man

[@Oimae]

cloud saved aerith in the rebirth timeline but sephiroth changed it to one where she dies. cloud can see aerith at the end because cloud is hollow and influenced by both aerith and sephiroth. Only him can see aerith. Red can sense her because he's also attuned to the spirits but he cannot see her. The next game will end with the Cloud we know dying. He has to. Cloud is what keeps Sephiroth tethered to reality. This is said in advent children. It's why Sephiroth saves Cloud from midgardsomr. If Cloud dies, so does Sephiroth. Remember that Aerith keeps wanting to meet the real Cloud. The Cloud that is free from Sephiroth's influence.

[@iswanlake]

This makes so much sense

[@kingkarrot9304]

The White Whisper (Aerith) is what changed it where she died. She knew she had to, to protect for the party. It’s even more heartbreaking than Sephiroth being the 1

[@DrKappaDelta]

New theory, Sephiroth is Ultimecia, thus, Sephiroth is rinoa

[@Omegaslashbuster1]

Thus Cloud is Squall and Zack is Selfer

[@brontosa5351]

Yup, that's your storytelling of ff7 basically.

[@missyshera7890]

Plot twist: Lightning from FFXIII is actually a time-traveling Yuna from FFX, on a quest to become the ultimate summoner across dimensions. This means Tidus is somehow Noel, right? And let's not forget, this implies that Chocobos are secretly Moogles in disguise, mastering the art of illusion. Thus, the eternal struggle isn't between light and darkness, but who gets the last slice of Gysahl Greens pizza at the interdimensional Final Fantasy party.

[@LetterlessAlphabet]

Then Mickey Mouse shows up and plunges his keyblade deep into the meteor and everyone lives happily ever after.

[@Sacrengard]

multiverse kompression

[@IianaDRK]

Some clarification regarding the "cloud might be able to see aerith for the rest of the journey" bit. It seems it was taken from advent children as cloud is able to see, hear and speak with both aerith and zack in advent children.

[@deiradinn]

Could've all been in his head.

[@PaulieWalnuts13]

This is different

[@scottfraser193]

Yup and after advent children is when Sephiroths "remake" then "rebirth" story happens well that's what I'm thinking

[@deiradinn]

@@scottfraser193 it's a multiverse, it's not A to B and Advent Children antagonist have already been defeated in this timeline.

[@scottfraser193]

@@deiradinn👍

[@punkpop101]

It's obvious Cloud deflecting the hit created a world where Aerith didn't die. Sephiroth somehow glitches Cloud between the split worlds. The one he saved her and the one he didn't. Or Cloud somehow glitches between them on his own. And since he doesn't hold his head or anything this isn't probably a Jenova PTSD thing just him moving between the worlds at the same time. For all we know Cloud at the ending can see both said worlds and one of them has the fractured sky or our own world starts fading since Seph told us all worlds will fade one-way or another.

[@r3gret2079]

But its also obvious thats not what's happening. What's obvious is NO ONE actually knows what's going on, and just giving their interpretations.

[@shandilesmanahidayat7131]

@@r3gret2079 agree

[@SuzakuX]

All you need to do to understand this part of the story is keep an eye on the rainbows. Every time multiworld stuff is going on there is a rainbow lighting effect somewhere on the screen.

[@metastase895]

Donald duck agrees with you.

[@ta3525]

And the dog logos to , there’s 3 of them meaning 3 different dimensions

[@itsdantaylor]

more like when a rainbow occurs a new universe is created. We see this in Zack and at the end with Cloud saving/not saving Aerith.

[@Lucidwhitey]

@@ta3525there’s 5 actually lol

[@Beadiman]

Never hated a dog in my entire a life, but Stamp needs to cross the road on a busy day……all 5 versions of him

[@silkfoxwyndia5086]

So Sephiroth became Xehanort?

[@lolguy00]

Which one?

[@metastase895]

Only in timeline 26 and Disney world 72, otherwise Sephiroth got possessed by Ultimecia and will bring all time into a singularity after a psychedelic fever dream ending cutscene.

[@SweetyMiki]

What a coincidence, Young Xehanort's English VA plays Sephiroth Clone Glen. :V

[@monimeia3794]

Just thought the same after watching Rufus and Glen/Gled.

[@daddysgirls4589]

😂😂😂 pretty much

[@loner1512]

Can someone explain to me why if there are 2 timelines since they defeated whisper on the highway, and why in main timeline we are playing, you can hear the news about the disaster exactly same at timeline where Zack survives? (the news is played by the radio at the Kalm's inn)

[@jesusrodriguezcolon8315]

There's 3 timelines,in one of them the story merges and that's why they both hear it

[@Hyphu]

Think of it like a core event

[@Darthfleezus]

Because the singularity was felt across all timelines as showed after Zack survived and looked at midgar and saw all the wackiness

[@Haegemon]

In theory there is one different branch of reality for every decision an individual does or doesn't.

[@DjDolHaus86]

One where it happened, one where it couldn't have happened

[@michaelh4227]

Fans: We want a FF7 Remake! Square Enix: Kingdom Hearts it is then.

[@fkdkfnfnldbjdbfjd7179]

LOL

[@fasttrack70]

Nothing like kh wtf

[@andresgarza8511]

A sequel is better to fix the ending

[@iTrustInTheMusic]

The whole reunion of Jenova is literally the gathering of 13 incarnations of sephiroth. It’s the same story…

[@josephbuchanan2319]

⁠@@iTrustInTheMusicReally? And where prey tell did you get that 13 Sephiroth statement from? Cause it’s not in the game.

[@stespin]

So it's either Aerith or the World. In the version of reality where Aerith gives Cloud the "working" White Materia she is alive, and the NPCs keep saying the world is ending. Maybe that's what we are seeing when Aerith dies, when it flickers between blood / no-blood, we see the version(s) of reality where she survives at the cost of the entire world. That's so messed up it hurts, right here (*points at heart). 😅 I truly believed this was a sequel and we could save her "this time".....😭 I won't stop hoping though. The fact that we didn't see the game-defining scene when Cloud leaves her body in the lake makes me think something isn't entirely right....

[@Iowan3-0]

2:19 Sephiroth is literally just the Terminator now lol

[@Savagewolver]

This didn’t have to be this complicated. Sephiroth is in the lifestream, but he refuses to merge with it which is what created the stigma in Advent Children, ultimately resulting in his return. When cloud defeated him again, he promised not to ever become a memory. this should have lead up with him figuring out how to time travel with the wisp things being there to ensure he doesn’t alter fate and is absorbed into the lifestream proper. The conflict would’dve been cloud, being part sephiroth, knowing the timeline has changed and would be tempted to beat the script to save aerith and perhaps Zack. this just opened a whole can of unnecessary worms.

[@metastase895]

Brain worm is a common reference to how Nomura works.

[@likagrom6953]

​@@metastase895Nomura isnt a writer.

[@SeferAngeloEspiritus]

​@@likagrom6953but nomura is the authornof the novels and advent children, but it is still hamaguchi's decision all along

[@coolyeh1017]

​@@SeferAngeloEspiritusalso Nojima and Kitase who are writer and producer (which have more sway in Japan) respectively.

[@AShroudOfTruth]

That would be boring.

[@solarplexus7]

To all those people that said “oh I’ll just play the remakes instead of the OG”. This is why we said not to

[@WindHashira]

Lol

[@cbgg1585]

This is the Elizabeth Bioshock Infinite shenanigans all over again. Fans to this day is arguing whether she is still alive.

[@mac2637]

Nobody said that

[@andresgarza8511]

Well this is a sequel

[@Shadow-gm9ct]

@@andresgarza8511it’s a soft reboot. No one from SE has ever said that it is a sequel to the 1997 game.

[@EngenhandoSistemas]

So she got killed again but this time in a convoluted sequence without any drama.

[@torchlight1785]

Yeah sadly the impact of the scene is severely reduced because of how they handled it. One of the most iconic moments in gaming.

[@rzxwm10]

It is Sephiroth's goal to get Cloud to believe that death is not a big deal. It is a homecoming. Perhaps it was intended to have less drama for multi verse purpose. The greater story outweighs old iconic moments. NGL it would ruin the tone of the current story if they faithfully adapted that scene. Don't get attach to a multiverse.

[@cbgg1585]

@@torchlight1785 Thats a load of bull.. Notice how everyone's limit break was full except for Cloud's in the final boss fight? Sends a powerful message about Cloud's denial and opens up perfectly for part 3. The impact still hits hard.

[@YugoHayashi]

Exactly! ​@@cbgg1585

[@pjackson116]

Yeah it looked like a big budget confusing version of what happened in 1997

[@SverigeHobbes]

Part 3 will definitely be called Reunion

[@ShikiRyougi05]

No. Crisis Core is already called reunion.

[@ry2950]

@@ShikiRyougi05 Technically both can still be called reunion so its not 100% off the table despite it being weird to do so.

[@ShikiRyougi05]

@@ry2950 most definitly not

[@voistar5387]

I'm leaning more toward Resurrection personally, though that is mostly because Crisis Core already took Reunion.

[@ShikiRyougi05]

@@voistar5387 resurresction and rebirth are almost the same in terms of meaning tho...so idk.

[@elan1926]

I've watched several videos for the explanation of the ending, but no one takes into consideration Zack's final scene in the Remake DLC (when he enters the church full of people), which apparently cannot be linked with what we saw in Rebirth Zack's timeline. Any idea?

[@basket073]

Simply An other timeline

[@ironwolf677]

Zack entered Midgar, the first thing he did was look for Aerith at the church, she wasn’t there; then he goes to sector 5 and that’s where Rebirth starts.

[@hmnanda]

​@@ironwolf677 so then where was cloud? Why was zack's face so clean? Zack found aerith pretty much the moment he got back to midgar per rebirth

[@bobbyblunt4208]

My guess is sephiroth will succeed in combining all universes and will converge as one but this will also converge cloud and all others as well giving them one last shot to really take down sephorath

[@JayfkProductions876]

So Square Enix took The Kingdom Hearts Confuse the heck outta the players approach 😂 😂 😂

[@joeycoe85]

Same writer. What else did you expect?

[@jamrah8713]

@@joeycoe85Nomura isn’t writing the remake trilogy. He was a director for remake but didn’t do any of the story beats (he’s said this in multiple interviews) He was the one who wanted remake to be a 1:1 remake

[@grantlawrence4600]

@@jamrah8713 Nomura was the one who originally pushed for the divergences in plot from the original. Including the abysmal endings for both games. There's a whole interview about it. I'm not sure where you got the opposing info from.

[@ausgod538]

@@grantlawrence4600 no he didn't

[@jagmaster-playz]

Yeah, he did it’s not solely Nomura fault, but he had a part to play.

[@mayrokspsn9068]

What’s the meaning of cloud deflects sephiroths sword ? Did he saved her in a alternate timeline ?

[@shaokhan4421]

Universes are converging. So in one universe he saves her in another he doesn’t. Technically he didn’t save her in the main universe 😅

[@DjDolHaus86]

Yes, every major choice/action creates a new timeline divergent to the one we're playing. A new universe was created where Cloud deflected Sephiroths sword and Aeris didn't die in the Ancient Capital

[@danielhenderson9917]

@@DjDolHaus86 *Aerith didn't die in the forgotten capital.

[@prince_warhero]

Easiest mcguffin for writers to change old stories - multiverse

[@DarylMCDeath]

Yeah...and a old way to declare everything bad and hate on anything... just because its multiverse its not bad! And that mostly comes from people that celebrate garbage like the Batman or Mission impossible...

[@MrReubenTishkoff]

Multiverse is basically the lazy escape route for when writers write themselves into a corner. 😔

[@DarylMCDeath]

@@MrReubenTishkoffBullshit! Thats just an excuse for people that have the attention span of a fly and can barely follow one movie !

[@metastase895]

@@DarylMCDeath Multiverse removes the stakes of the story so the themes become meaningless. Also in this particular case it is very disrespectful to Hironobu Sakaguchi and his dead mother.

[@reprieve5279]

Another great story ruined by the multiverse.

[@GodofGoblins]

Ok, but who was aerith talking too at costa del sol? The first time the voice was likely red, but the second time the voice was speaking to her (helping her keep watch) and red was clearly sleeping. He even wakes up starteled later. So....who was she speaking too?

[@ArkradosKeiresk]

Red, he's just startled because of how she's reacting/talking

[@sliferskydragon9798]

​@@ArkradosKeireskbro the second time red was sleeping so it cant be him

[@ectogamut]

At Johnny’s hotel, the camera is purposely pointed at Red’s tail and not his face when you hear that voice. So it’s Red speaking in that instance

[@avicii6379]

Red

[@IsntItAaronicVideos]

Confirmed it was Red but it’s the first time we hear his real voice so it throws you off

[@jadenkootenay8549]

Can somone explain zacks story to me in rebirth. So in this time line he saves cloud and lives. Fine. But how does bigs know cloud since the 1st bombing mission if cloud was with zack? Also at the end of intergrade we see zach go to look for aerith at the church, but obviously in rebirth he finds her right away so what gives? Then after he reunites with OG cloud hes sent to a diffrent timeline where meteors happening but then transported again to his timline?

[@metastase895]

It's called bad writing. It is what happens when you combine Nomura + Darkness + power of friendship + multiverse.

[@gabrieltelmo6400]

​@@metastase895the only explanation.

[@SwobyJ]

The video isn't explaining but: This Biggs consciousness crossed over. The Cloud he knew is the Cloud we know. No its not directly explained, its a mystery for later. His memories of Cloud do not match Zack's. He knows Cloud as a merc. His story may be the start of Zack learning how he might be able to cross worlds himself. For altZack meeting altAerith, its either that he went to the church, didn't find her, so he went further into the sector town and saw the news - or its another world branch. I'm leaning to the former, as Zack didn't exactly look shocked at the disaster news, only the spotting of Aerith on screen. The story seems to make enough sense to me that he dragged altCloud into the city, focused on the church, didn't find Aerith there but learned of the storm disaster, went further into the sector for more info, and saw altAerith on the news. For the last question, its unknown (to me at least), but it may be implied an Aerith saved him and brought him back, just as Sephiroth sent him to there. There is a larger battle in the Lifestream by entities that are able to keep their individuality and wield great power, but it always has drastic results whenever either meddle. Aerith, symbolized by the white feather (which is a stunning hint about some stuff in the Compilation now) is pretty clearly favoring this Zack for a greater purpose.

[@jadenkootenay8549]

@SwobyJ but that doesn't explain how both the comatose aerith and Marlene know cloud as well? Biggs isn't the only one knows "our" cloud

[@timthornton759]

@@SwobyJUhhh…What????

[@ChrisKooltv]

Imagine if in the third one there's a new sephiroth boss aside from the original one since sephiroths plan is bigger than it was in the original

[@asingleman2250]

Watching that ending left me with more questions than anything, and then we have to wait at least 2 or 3 years for the next part?! Thankfully the gameplay is great and the story up until the end.

[@Qunt21]

4 years

[@resolvedfate1295]

@@Qunt21It won’t take them that long. They are have most of the world and resources already done.

[@Qunt21]

@@resolvedfate1295 they already announced its going to be 4 years..

[@isaac-77]

@@resolvedfate1295this game was huge and took 4 years. Part 3 is gonna be even bigger so 4 years is the safest bet

[@blobber51]

​​@@Qunt21😢😢 Makes sense tho, they said its going to be huge

[@richardbertrand9939]

Is the meteor ever mentioned in this game, and is the white materia mentioned to be holy. Or is it something you're jist expected to know?

[@zero1343]

Meteor is mentioned and connected to the black materia in this one, including flashbacks to the scene the party saw in remake. The white materia isn't explicitly called holy at any part yet though, just that its used alongside prayers to protect the planet.

[@hypotheticaltapeworm]

You can literally see it when you play as Zack in Chapter 14. Aerith visits this reality when she goes on that weird date with Cloud.

[@Loremastrful]

This is treading into FF8 territory. Will Laguna and Irvine pop up in Reunion?

[@solarplexus7]

It turns out they all went to the same orphanage. Even Cait Sith

[@kmo20794]

Maybe, but maybe Sora Donald and Goofy will too since we’re in Kingdom Hearts territory now

[@amurjoeray2790]

Aerith showing up to help you fight the final seph was SICK

[@brianbogan8499]

That’s a pug, not a bulldog

[@danielwilliams8346]

The remakes sound so convoluted.

[@jikGeek]

Because they are 😢

[@metastase895]

Because Nomura is the Darkness we have to defeat with the power of friendship gathered from multiple worlds.

[@Beadiman]

⁠@@metastase895Namura can take a walk…..with his five dogs called Stamp

[@Zhello79]

​At least it isn't the Pitioss Ruins.

[@asafdundar5551]

​@@metastase895I must correct: Nomura-san ist the darkness within darkness we have to defeat with the power of friendship

[@nattyice23]

This explanation makes the most sense to me, I’ve seen a lot of different theories about who the Aerith at the end is. It being her spirit lines up with the OG game, while the one he told to wake up is in an alternate timeline. The way they show it is just so confusing lmao

[@dirgedeus5446]

Would have been nice if Zack was the one to blocked Sephi sword and save Aerith.

[@dreamsandhonour3319]

So Zack choosing someone other than Aerith always ended up in him dying? is that what this is?

[@karuiii]

OMG ANOTHER MULTIVERSE STORY

[@Haggy836]

We knew it was multiple timelines before the game came out.. Did you not play or understand Remake?

[@unknown24667]

​@@Haggy836istg they didn't they want ff7 to stick to the og

[@Auster9376]

​​@@Haggy836that really isn't the point. People are pissed off the very concept of a multiverse existing in FF7 is there to begin with. It tramples the core themes the original game set the foundation for.

[@ausgod538]

@@Auster9376 completely irrelevant when we already knew this from remake so the sequels of course would follow this.

[@Auster9376]

@@ausgod538 and that's exactly why a lot of people are divided. FF7 doesn't need a multiverse. It's a dumb plot device.

[@Enes1967]

This whole alternative stuff should have been a stand alone game. It feels out of place in the remake.

[@terrellthaddies7867]

Disagree

[@doom1067]

The game isn't a remake anymore. Remake in the title was misdirection, they meant remake as in to redo.

[@2011supergamer]

It is a standalone game (or rather trilogy) dude, it's been 4 years how are people still confused lmao

[@Key-Knight87]

@@2011supergamer If the writing wasn't so crap maybe people would understand things a little better lmao

[@gotyournose6479]

@@2011supergamer Yeah and it should've never had the "remake" tag which was used to drag people in. Now what are the chances of getting an actual ff7 remake because of this crap

[@VerdeMorte]

"but the universe refused to change..."

[@akmxnakamuraanjiru]

Min 8:25 those are the tubes of Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo? Did you think will be a connection with ffvii advent children? 🤔

[@karinavilchis4519]

It could be. This is said to not disturb Advent Children and what follows.

[@akmxnakamuraanjiru]

@@karinavilchis4519 that make sense 🤔

[@jadeusdragias]

Bringing Zack back had no point.

[@Yw436.__.]

7:35 Remembering one sadness, is that in Zack's world, the tifa, Barret, red, avalanche are all dead.

[@TheRedRaven_]

So what they did is take away the impact of Aeriths death by letting us know there are infinite versions of her, basically she’s still alive. Also lessens the importance of the OG timeline.

[@phanhuyduc2395]

She is not alive. She as dead as a fish on a frying pan. Cloud is insane just all

[@derekp308]

She’s not really still alive. She’s a ghost only Cloud sees. Red XIII seems to sense her, but not see her.

[@terrellthaddies7867]

Wrong on all counts when 1. That scene will be fully shown in Part 3 2. Aerith is dead here. Remember, Cloud's mind is broken which made him think Aerith is still there but she's just a ghost. The game isn't telling u that there are infinite versions of her 3. Nun of this lessens the OG timeline

[@phanhuyduc2395]

You know, there are also infinite version of you playing infinite version of Final Fantasy VII remake in the current multiverse anyway... we are mindfucked nevertheless lol

[@MrVariant]

​@@terrellthaddies7867lol 3 parts 3 playstations. Too rich for me 😂

[@bobbypendragon7375]

All we ever wanted was a straight forward remake

[@bluehacker122]

like 90% of the game playes either exactly or in the spirit of ff7, so if u wanna discard the new ideas, its relativly ez to do

[@enriquepowers]

Me as well but Zack is my favorite character so him being alive, at least in another reality, makes me happy about it

[@nerorangitaawa3762]

Well dont play it lol and im gonna enjoy it like the majority of us

[@netfan7117]

Like there were any polls on the topic.

[@jikGeek]

100% agree juet with up to date combat system, graphics etc 👍

[@ziontaylor2284]

The ending of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth about Aerith's death doesn't make any sense.

[@Haggy836]

Makes perfect sense up to a point of not knowing everything because the game isn't over.

[@rachmatmulia5212]

So Aerith still dies in this remake version?

[@nerorangitaawa3762]

Helloooo The game is over yet smh its still not the full game think about it smh

[@ziontaylor2284]

@@nerorangitaawa3762 Maybe you're right.

[@SubduedRadical]

@@rachmatmulia5212 In the main timeline, it seems so. Though it seems to be implied that there's at least one timeline where she was saved.

[@hybridhelix88]

So in other words: SquareEnix put some Bioshock Infinite vibe into Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth

[@Sothros]

so cloud can see glimpses of the other worlds from time to time and even travel between worlds at the end. aerith is helping through the lifestream much like in advent children.

[@unidentifiedbeing8149]

This is horrible. The game is beautiful, but this multiverse storyline is getting out of hand.

[@kevinnguyen9596]

So they are pulling a “Doctor Strange “. Got it!

[@Haggy836]

FF7 Remake came out in 2020, Doctor Strange 2, 2022. Square had already written the whole trilogy years before the game came out, they cant pull a “Doctor Strange “ if it was decided years before it.. try again.

[@FamilyForeverGaming]

Or can they? The plot thickens. 😮

[@SubduedRadical]

Possibly more Doctor Who than Doctor Strange. :D

[@jimmyoct87]

Wouldn’t be a Nomura game if the story made sense.

[@elderjose9662]

the story made cense but people just don't want to use they brains a little

[@SaiyanJoestar]

This would of have been perfect for Seifer in FF8. Hell, the entirely of FF8.

[@itsdantaylor]

come to think of it wasn't ultimecia's goal time compression? Sephiroth's is seemingly multiverse compression.

[@JKM2468]

@@itsdantaylorit is, which makes me think if they even plan to remake VIII. Seems weird that they will show such a similar villain

[@kingdiablo66]

Remake, Rebirth, Reunion?

[@metastase895]

Remake, Rebirth, Regurgitation.

[@mana-uv7cz]

This game’s story should be called FFVII Fan service

[@ricky_pigeon]

how is it fan service?

[@ldrockmusic]

There are six universes represented by a different breed of Stamp. Cloud Alpha Universe with Beagle Stamp is over lapping with Spitz Stamp universe to get the white material, see the warning sign of meteor and fight Sephiroth at the end.

[@jekt31]

Not sure about that black materia part tho. In OG, the temple IS the black materia. In Rebirth, Aerith tells Cloud he picks a fake one. When the temple shrinks, we can clearly see some stuff falling from that point. Then Cloud and Aerith also fall deep down. Finally, after waking up, Aerith may have put the black materia in Cloud's pocket, for whatever reason we don't know yet.

[@noooname2568]

And what we end up with is a convoluted mess

[@Thecoolguy463]

Who was Aerith talking to in the room at Johnny’s hotel? It wasn’t Red because he was sleeping.

[@naturalwizard1441]

Not sleeping, just laying on the bed.

[@marsirenas]

There details of FF7 Rebirth that are not clear. Like why all the suddent the white materia that Aerith was caring for when team Cloud went to Jonny Seaside in Costa del Sol, got clear with no magic in it??

[@GarredHATES]

Boi Sephiroth is gonna feel bad once he finds out hes stuck in the central finite curve

[@mobpsy1526]

They should have written a completely new story instead of stretching the FF7 midgame into this mess.

[@kiplingordon]

Agreed

[@kaycex1]

u don’t understand this game then, supposedly all universe follow the og ff7 storyline where everyone fate is predetermined but in ff7 remake they defy the destiny alltogether and that why those whisper came out they trying to stop them to deviate from og path the whole fr7 remake is like Loki from marvel tv series lol

[@Auster9376]

​@kaycex1 and that's exactly why we hate it. FF7 was never about tinelines or a multiverse, yet they somehow turned it into one with these newer games. It overshadows, and shatters Sakaguchi's original vision of 'Life' and its importance.

[@Haegemon]

@@Auster9376 It doesn't change the basics of Shinto and Budhism. According to FF7 in death they return to the planet and that will trigger new life. Buddhists believe that death marks the end of this life and the passage into the next. It is just one spoke among infinite spokes in the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. While in Shinto the afterlife largely revolve around the idea that the spirit survives bodily death and continues to assist the living. The multiverse is a contemporary scientific concept in cosmology and physics due to the Quantum theory.

[@trentlim5157]

Part 3 will have 20 different Cloud from different universe fighting Sephiroth

[@furrylifephotography]

That’s gonna be a 10 hour consecutive boss fight 😭

[@Haegemon]

That's not how it works. In Rebirth they are in another reality than Part 1 and there isn't 2 of each member. They become the ones in that reality.

[@mattiasolsson1523]

Don’t be ridiculous, Why must fans make fun of FF7 remake saga now😞

[@fadedisdeppresed8252]

Is their gonna be a completely new part for ff7

[@shigaxn]

It's time to time travel back to when Square Enix could tell a proper story.

[@metastase895]

Don't worry bro, Lucca still got the Epoch.

[@Dsnipa26]

Square Enix never could. Square/Squaresoft did. All that died in 2003.

[@coolyeh1017]

Well there is Ishikawa of FFXIV. But she has been moved to a secret project after Endwalker.

[@TheEnduringCitizen]

look how they massacred my boy

[@terrellthaddies7867]

They haven't

[@MrVariant]

Jay Sherman from the critic would tell you to play the original lol if the movie stinks, just dont go 😂. Crisis on infinite earths lol

[@FromTheSkylessVoid]

@@terrellthaddies7867yeah honestly this was such a fantastic game. Bunch of weirdos hating on it just to be contrarians

[@supergta4expert]

boomer

[@edge6568]

See the possibilities my boy, in the OG FF7, we never get to see the promised land which is a waste and gave us a feeling of incompleteness and lacking, now with this multiverse stuffs happening, we can now have a possibility of seeing a timeline with the promised land found.

[@clayfulton]

You forgot to mention that marlene and biggs are our universes characters they survived and are important in part 3

[@shuadelossantos9397]

The Marlene in the "other timeline" only seems to have a knowledge of whats supposed to happen to Aerith. After all, the Marlene from Cloud's timeline is still doing well in Midgar. Biggs on the other hand was clearly from Cloud's timeline. I'm a bit disappointed though that he was "summoned" to another timeline, only just to die yet again. Hopefully, just like how Zack getting re-summoned in the church again, it would happen to Biggs, Wedge and Jessie as well.

[@Haegemon]

@@shuadelossantos9397 Marlene knows the future because Aerith show her. It happens in the Remake part 1 when the plate has to fall over Sector 7 and Aerith helps in the evacuation while she has to find Marlene. So, Marlene knows in every reality where Aerith did that.

[@basket073]

So basically there are infinite timelines and Sephiroth and Aerith are traveling among them to fight for planet’s faith. Cloud travelled too and so he can see the break in the sky.

[@Juganhut]

Right now its a multiverse, in part 3 they are actually in Chadleys "Matrix" to create the ultimate materia to defeat Sephiroth/Jenova.

[@kgrayman]

Ever since ff13, they just love doing that time travel/multiverse

[@farizizatri]

it's like a trend nowdays. Marvel did that too, and they ruined it

[@MarcoJosephCheung]

Mostly the same dev team of FF13 are making this, which makes sense

[@mototoe]

True even 14 had multiverse stuff

[@corbinleach]

Final Fantasy 1 had time travel

[@ricky_pigeon]

It's not time travel or multiverses.

[@rzxwm10]

Yo...where is Genesis? We got Cissnei, but no Genesis? Did he not tell Sephiroth what's up?

[@TheSSBBfan666]

so, watched Easy Allies go over the game, Max pointed out something interesting in the end with Aerith, she's got a red glint in her eyes and doesnt act like how we all remember her and Cloud's relationship (in the 'you promise' bit with Cloud). Which other being has a red glint in their eyes? Jenova.

[@zachjones8991]

Great video, but the version of Stamp in the world where Zach saves Biggs is clearly a Pug.

[@JustinMBailey]

….can they….remake this game with all this extra multiverse crap? The original story was actually pretty perfect.

[@av-ls5df]

Exactly. We just have to wait another 50 years.

[@JustinMBailey]

@@av-ls5df it’s a real bummer FFVII is not just one of the best games I’ve ever played but it’s also one of my favorite stories along with Stephen King’s IT, full metal alchemist, The Fountain head and Ender’s game.

[@likagrom6953]

Nooo, they needed to strech 1 game into 3 to milk more money.

[@Alas7eR]

So go play that

[@ossbeats8314]

@@Alas7eRno

[@joaopaulopaes4859]

Aerith dies even with Cloud deflecting Sephiroth's attack. Does summoning the Holy materia require some sort of sacrifice ? meaning in the original game Aerith would have died anyway even without Sephiroth's attack? In a way, it explains why at the end of the original game even though she died, the Holy materia was activated.

[@MrReubenTishkoff]

In the OG it's implied she knew she had to physically die, so she could enter the lifestream and command both the lifestream and holy. This is exactly what happens at the end of the OG: holy creates a barrier, but meteor is far too close and easily breaks through holy, until lifestream emerges from everywhere and, together with holy, destroys meteor. And we see Aerith's face, reminiscing the first intro of the game, and implying it was her who controlled the lifestream.

[@punkpop101]

No that's not at all what's happening here. When Cloud deflected Sephiroth a new timeline was created were Aerith survived. The scenes we see with Aerith duying are from another timeline where Cloud didn't deflect the hit. Don't be shocked if you see Aerith alive in the first trailers of part 3.

[@s.2685]

2:22 so it's similar to the gravity concept of jojo's, very interesting

[@ae6112]

cool breakdown.

[@user-dq4bh6kb8h]

A list of questions: 1) At what point does the scene in Intermission take place, where Zack came to Airith’s church and found out that she was not there, because judging by the amount of dirt on his face, he went to Midgar immediately after canceling his execution, without entering the church. (is there a third timeline here?) 2) Midgar was destroyed by a tornado, in Cloud’s reality he was not there, but he was in the pocket universe when we went to beat Seph at the very end of the remake (Did we beat Seph in Zack’s reality? Are the worlds somehow still connected?) 3) In the news they say that they are looking for a former soldier with a Buster Sword, and they are looking for him in the ruins of Midgar, i.e. It’s immediately obvious that this is not Zack, but Cloud (how many damn Clouds are there in Zack’s reality?) 4) How does time work here, because between the execution of Zack and the party’s departure from Midgar, at least a week or two must pass, while Zack, after the cancellation of the canonical execution, comes to Midgar at the moment when the escape from Midgar in theory should have taken place, but for him - It took at most half a day and a half.

[@levirocha573]

My opinions: 1) Yes, there are infinity timelines. 2)only part of the city is destroy. 3)Good question!

[@user-gh6qh6xt7z]

People still doesn't realize that Remake is a sequel of advent children movie not an official remake retelling.

[@metastase895]

So what? Bad sequel is still bad.

[@azwarmuharram2399]

If it's sequel, the timeline should follow after advent children. It's basically new story with different "if"

[@yfw123]

Well that gimmick was from the Shin Evangelion movies where viewers found something odd after watching the 2nd movie You Can (Not) Advance...

[@RIELTURO]

It's not a sequel it's just a reimagining with a multiverse plot.

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

@@RIELTUROnah it’s def a sequel. Too many moments where OG cloud talks to our Cloud in the last one and in this one while he fights Jenova

[@deividilavitz6645]

Anyone know the musics used on this video?

[@metastase895]

It depends on the timeline. Buy FF7R part 3 to find out.

[@WindHashira]

​@@metastase895😂

[@joenelsaracho4836]

This multiverse stoyline is perfect for ff8

[@michialphelps2339]

Exactly. Definitely not FF7

[@craigfin3222]

It would actually answer some of the weird story elements in FF8. Anyone who played the game, knows that after a failed attempt, the whole game essentially switches style.

[@michialphelps2339]

@@craigfin3222 what do you mean?

[@cemarz]

8 is time travel. It is not multiverse. There is only one timeline.

[@Key-Knight87]

@@cemarz Their point still stands. FF8 is still the perfect game for them to play around with time travel and multiverse crap...

[@bozardo101]

They should have called this FF7 KINGDOM HEARTS LOL

[@OmnigmaTheMaster]

Kingdom Hearts: Final Fantasy 7 the stories

[@neekola1910]

Absolutely destroyed her death scene

[@itsbeyondme5560]

They didn't. Aerith accept her death. Cloud did save her but aerith change it

[@wind1574]

Agreed

[@MUSIC3787]

@@itsbeyondme5560 0 iq players just didnt understand it that alll

[@SubduedRadical]

Howso? She died just as she did before. It's implied there is a timeline where she does not, but that doesn't change that she did die. I'm not really getting all the people who want Aerith to die over and over again, nor people that think if she doesn't die in at least one timeline that this is somehow a travesty.

[@metastase895]

@@SubduedRadical The theme of FF7 was centered around how Hironobu Sakaguchi dealt with his mother death. For it to make any sense at all, the story representing that theme must understand and deal with the fact that dead people does not come back to life like in fairy tales. The remake trilogy is disrespectful to both the OG game and to Hironobu Sakaguchi.

[@uroskesic6117]

All of this reminds me of Jojo stell ball run where Funny Valentine was able to travel to parrallel worlds and bring characters to his main universe

[@blistertooth]

Except SBR was better executed.

[@garywood97]

Cloud isn't the only one who can see the crack in the sky in THEIR timeline. The crack in the sky is in the alternate timeline (where Aerith survived). The cracks in the sky indicate unstable worlds that are destined to collapse. There is no crack in the main timeline. As that is still the world where the original ending will play out (i.e fate)

[@novaflare5898]

Idk man some companies tend to get everything right in terms of a game except the story. Idk why do they like to over complicate things to the point we cant make sense of it and have to spend extra time and effort to understand it lmfaoo. Im looking at Nier and the recent Assassins Creed entries and no doubt lots of others also exist

[@tylercafe1260]

Nier was never meant to be understood. Yoko Taro writes his scripts when he's drunk. That's just an unfortunate fact.

[@metastase895]

Because the lazy multiverse plot device allows companies to reuse a brand - like famous characters - over and over again for infinite money gain.

[@metalgearjesus5801]

nier is pretty straight forward compared to ff7 being a literal multiversal pile of mess.

[@WindHashira]

​@@metastase895 yo infinite money glitch!

[@andresgarza8511]

This is a sequel

[@abysstruthpoet]

So the second game wraps up the whole original storyline and the final part of the trilogy is basically ff7 avengers saving the multiverse from sephoroth who is basically Thanos lmfao is that or is there an at the events of Advent children in the video game very loosely

[@rjaygemus2023]

1:46 it looked more like a Pug than a bulldog

[@Mohaxx-gc9jj]

Is this means no more final fantasy 7 in future

[@skatecats92]

Once you realize the game plays by spiderverse rules and cannon events, it's pretty easy to follow.

[@voxandballtorture]

The end just felt like a melodramatic drag. Literal game of hot potato with materia and timelines. And unessecary fanservice

[@metastase895]

Fanservice to whom? OG fans did not want this and fanservice does not apply to new players.

[@AShroudOfTruth]

Speak for yourself.

[@pixytorres7117]

​@@AShroudOfTruth You must be one of the 5 people who enjoyed this hotmess ending lol. Don't forget to clean your mouth after slurping Nomura's junk you fanboy.

[@kurisu3000]

Your low IQ is showing

[@tommyb4253]

Is he playable at the end of the game tho

[@mattiasolsson1523]

This was some intresting and new changes, Square Enix better bring the rest of the FF7 saga to the final part and also more content.

[@wontononionslicer1004]

Dudes, the story is not about multiverse or multimeline, every odd is just dreams or pocket world created by the planet, the last date of cloud and Aerith says all, all npc were aware of the fakeness of their environment and aware of their death. Zack kn other hand is in a limbo between life and death since he still had unsolved issues like want to see aerith again.

[@terencecaron2922]

Sephiroth literally talks about multiple universes converging, Zack talks about timelines converging, dude, have you played the game 😂

[@mattiasolsson1523]

Multiverse is only 1/3 focus on the remake saga, 2/3 is from the original FF7 saga.

[@kmo20794]

It’s a multiverse dude

[@netfan7117]

"She dies if she wakes up". "Cloud tries to save her, but he doesn't make it in time". "He almost does, but he doesn't". ... "Aerith... Wake up". Torn sky, seen by both Zack and Cloud. Hint enough for you? Perhaps. But what will you do with it? Let's see.

[@darealshmk19]

1:56 yup im confused already

[@bartholomew2278]

1:50 That's a Pug homie

[@anonymoose2341]

Is it really FF7 if the remake completely changes the entire plot and point of original

[@granddaddyotaku636]

What OG fans have been trying to tell you since the beginning lol This is a requel not a remake

[@ausgod538]

@@granddaddyotaku636 it literally is a remake, its remaking 95% of the game and expandng on it at the same time.

[@michaelrobosa146]

@@ausgod538 it's still a requel. it's so obvious at this point. it's a remake of the og FF7, but at the same time, it's a sequel of the og FF7

[@SuzakuX]

The plot and point isn't changed, though. Not really. Aerith still died, but a different ephemeral world was spawned in which she lives. It is destined to end soon, which is why its sky is fragmented. Sephiroth's goal has expanded in scope, instead of just merging all souls into the Lifestream and ruling the planet, he wants to merge all the different fleeting timelines into a single unending reality that he can rule for eternity. Aerith's goal is still to stop him, allowing things to end. So the message and point is still that you have to accept death and move on. Nothing lasts forever. All these other realities will end and when the Remake trilogy is over everything will be in its rightful place and the plot will progress on into Advent Children as usual. This has already been confirmed by the developers.

[@milkofcows]

Bro 90% of the game is basically the same as the original. Play the game first before making conclusions

[@wind1574]

They shouldn't have brought Zack back.

[@itsbeyondme5560]

😊😊😊

[@Hgreedy]

100% true.

[@ShikiRyougi05]

Nah dude it's literally so peak.

[@Deimos1739]

if you remove zack the story wouldn't have changed at all he was completely in there for fan service

[@JechtNH]

@@Deimos1739I wouldn’t even mind that if at least we got an interesting side story with him and gameplay, but it really seems that they added Zack just for the sake of it

[@MatrixAlphaCWX]

130 Million+ on Steam/PC users. 117 Million+ PS4/PS4 Pro users. 120 Million+ Xbox users. 123 Million+ Switch users. That's still additional revenue they missed out on. (59.3 Million PS5's)

[@zafrilizhar6846]

Have any of you actually played this game? Convoluted or not, amazing game