Illegal House Purchase In Italy (heartbroken)

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[@annhamilton2060]

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[@Inconcvable77]

I hate that you had this revelation with the property, but I think that it is a strong blessing and you need to move on to a different location. I know firsthand what it is like to THINK you found a place you wanted; however, you will find a perfect place when it's right and all the pieces will fit. The fact that things keep changing and being taken away should be a sure sign to RUN, not walk away... I hate to think about the toll this would take on your mental well-being if you did purchase this house.

[@SheriLatulip]

Glad you have a therapist your anxiety comes across the screen.

[@come-crime-with-me]

seriously walk away .my sons a builder and said you will spend more on this house . take this as a learning curve and keep in your mind when the house you find next you would have learned a lot more . there will be more in this town if your not in a hury

[@bobbiejojackson9448]

I would request a full inspection of the property before making your final decision. As long as it shows that there are no other structural issues and you still love the house as a whole, I'd say go for it. I've heard that inspections aren't mandatory or common in many European countries and I assume that probably makes them a bit pricey, but you might be able to get the seller to split the cost with you. If it wasn''t for the fact that they're already on the hook for the cost of the demolition that needs doing, you might have been able to request that they cover the inspection in full, but you want to be fair about it. The space left after the stairs are removed, could be used for a larger bathroom with a shower OR you could split the space between a nice pantry and a new powder room. To save on expenses, you could do some of the work yourselves, like plastering the walls and tiling the floor and then you could hire out the plumbing and electrical. Just my thoughts, anyway. Best of luck with whatever you decide!

[@narrowboatview9071]

As a builder, I recommend you walk away. The level of destruction to the house will leave it requiring a full renovation. Just move on and take it as a learning curve. Good luck.

[@SwanSong1234]

Good advice!

[@Silkytoaster]

Agreed - they need to walk away .

[@NafiMali]

Run away. You are being saved from bigger issues.

[@graemepjc]

Could always walk away, then revisit once they've done the renos to reassess.

[@SandraHill-b4p]

Walk away. You don’t need a money pit. You will find something better. Praying you make the right decision for your family. ❤️🙏🙏🙏

[@pxlbarrel]

Don't buy it. Collect your double deposit and then see if it goes back on the market after the renovation work is done. You can take a look at it afterwards (if you haven't already purchased somewhere else) and see if you like it .... and this time, get somebody to inspect it to make sure it's structurally sound. You need to be able to move in without any doubts or you'll be miserable.

[@shodson314]

I agree!

[@ajarnsteve1958]

I totally agree. It's a hugh decision buying a house.​@shodson314

[@la154]

Great advice!

[@LBtravel]

for sure seler will not sell property to people who make them lose money -- seriosly i dont think will happened

[@CBEEBLE]

I would leave with my deposit and upfront costs in an attempt to be reasonable and maintain good will. If the owners don’t lose money they will be more inclined to come back to the negotiating table. If the authorities want to attract people back to the towns they need to demonstrate a fair property conveyancing system. That’s for the owner’s legal representative to challenge.

[@markox0505]

As an Italian I advise you not to buy this house because if the owners have committed all these building abuses they may not be able to complete the necessary renovations. You will be lucky if you manage to collect double the deposit you paid

[@bertiew6771]

Agree on the first point. Regarding the second, legally it would not be possible to sell whilst the current owners still owe you money. They would have to declare in the contract that there is money still owed. I'd settle for just getting my money back today. Walk away from the apartment and the problems both structural and legal.

[@AnaWolovick-lc8bl]

getting your deposit back may indeed be difficult- so if you love the village/view and the structure is sound-go for it- there will ALWAYS ALWAYS be works to be done... life is not perfect, homes are not perfect- stop trying to find perfection and find the LOCATION that you want.

[@CBEEBLE]

@@bertiew6771 Agreed!!

[@JF-kv1gm]

I live in a different region of Italy. Have been living here for over 30 years. All I can say is "don't go ahead with this purchase, please". The moment I saw it in another video my heart sank. The ceilings aren't the regulation height, there are bound to be countless other issues that don't meet the law. Properties in the past were built much more freely but now in order to sell and purchase, there are stricter regulations about height, size, size of windows, sanitation, everything. Everything will need planning permission too which is time consuming and COSTLY. So, to save yourselves from further heartache, it sounds wise to move on. So sorry for you.

[@chabridgettumusiime8994]

I like your knowledge suggestions about size of windows, height ..I saw some video where the height was like a basement height..like it was suffocating

[@tanikokishimoto1604]

I mentioned at a past video that if either of you breaks an ankle or a leg -- I've done both in my lifetime -- navigation there would be a nightmare. I am also at a loss with that playroom that would probably last a maximum of four years before your son outgrew it. Go. Keep looking .

[@FireCracker3240]

I'm a real estate agent. If it were me, I would absolutely walk away from the house. Once they demolish that room, you're left with a different property all together, but paying the same for it. Also, with an ancient property like that, who knows what other problems will be unearthed when they do the work, and how much of that would fall back on you? Lastly, that little play room for Noah won't last more than a few years. That ceiling is so short that by the age of 5 he will have outgrown it anyway, and then you're stuck with an impractical space that will likely be unusable. I imagine you can find something more suitable in the long term with the extra money you'll make on them paying you for the error.

[@Snorky47]

I've spent 53 of my 77 years in the construction industry, and I would run as fast as possible from this deal. The renovations were obviously made by the previous owner, and unless the codes have changed in the interim, the work was probably not permitted (meaning that permits for construction were not pulled) or inspected at the time. You therefore have no idea of the quality of the work. In addition, the demolition could uncover structural issues requiring further expensive work. Run little KZbinrs, run!

[@heidihodges329]

Childhood goes so fast. It's a cute floor...but kids grow tired of places and toys once the novelty runs dry. They mainly want connection--friends, parents, etc. So, you would have a that floor, but it would not really be used in only a few years. (I know SO many parents who created a great play space--tree houses, little mini kitchens, mini spots--and they were used for a very short amount of time.

[@mackiemadepapercreations]

This is so true!!! Parents get tunnel vision about stuff like that and forget their children are only small for a few years!

[@kookietherapy9398]

I thought it was a room you would grow to hate.

[@the_mum]

Truth! My grandkids have an incredible playroom. They last max 15 min and they are back with mum and dad.

[@cindym4946]

Totally my experience. Kids want to be with their people. I didn't like it from the beginning. It would be an awkward space in a short time.

[@chalphon4907]

indeed, years if you are lucky, months more likely before the novelty runs out

[@jennyoung586]

“Noah’s Room” realistically wouldn’t be “Noah’s Room” for very long; that ceiling is so low that he’d outgrow the space in no time.

[@DT-rb7ro]

Well said and Noah would have to pretend to enjoy the novelty of the low ceiling so that his parents feelings won't be hurt lol

[@jcbslytherin269]

As a parent, of three, 41, 35, and 18 ,my thoughts exactly

[@jleedw]

I agree! As a mom of 4 this would only be for a few years

[@thebazgaz]

It's also quite obviously a massive fire risk.

[@capricornk9033]

That was my first thought when they talked about it in the last video.

[@richardmccarthy353]

Forget romantic notions and pipe dreams and be realistic. The right property will crop up at the right time. And it is much safer to buy through a real estate agency. Word of mouth properties often have something to hide.

[@wonderwonder-xr2xq]

This answer is spot-on! Especially as you are not Italian - MUCH better to go through a real estate agency.

[@ciaobella8963]

I am a British citizen who lived in the US most of my adult life. Twelve years ago I bought an ancient stone house in a borgo/hamlet in northern Tuscany which I recently sold. I have seen dozens of houses for sale (with fewer steps as I'm 76) and I have learned a lot about "abusivo" structures on properties for sale. I almost bought one until I found out that the sheds in the back used for storage were illegal. Without them, the property didn't fit my spec. Anyway, it is an Italian thing for sure, especially in the older properties when the generation that is now gone used to do this a lot i.e. build structures without a building permit.. Anyway, you are learning haha. Stay strong. There is a divine reason for everything that happens in life, in my opinion. BTW, my old borgo house had three bedrooms, and a small garden of 250 mq with a killer view of the Apuan mountains. and I was only 30 minutes from the sea. Italy is so rich with quaint affordable villages that perhaps you should widen your net. I will say though that in Sicily you will get better bargains for sure. Wishing you all the best.

[@orangekabrown]

I honestly felt like this house wasn't right from the beginning. Something felt off.

[@CampervanTravelsInDora]

Same in Portugal, then again in Sweden , so perhaps the UK is best 😮

[@YogaBlissDance]

But did we see it before, I thought they didn't show it

[@VoklstWestie]

Ditto! I'm claustrophic!!

[@Ramuna-ip4qy]

Same. I first saw it on LEAW's channel , when they showed it as one of the properties for sale. When I saw that upper floor my first thought was - are you frikkin' kidding me?! Not surprised.

[@luke125]

I agree

[@paradisekohchangstyle2150]

As someone who is NOT a builder, I would apply some common sense and say: DITCH this property. This is a bad omen already. What costs could be added to all of the re-building required? There are countless villages with equally pretty vistas there. Just go back and hunt again. All part of the home ownership journey.👍

[@NancyH60]

Walk away! It's not meant to be and your dream home is ahead!

[@andreabontempo643]

I agree!

[@irenedavo3768]

Cannot even stand up upstairs!

[@irenedavo3768]

Imagine it in Winter!

[@irenedavo3768]

Go somewhere else!

[@irenedavo3768]

Be awful place in 🥶 Winter

[@rasferrastfarian739]

My 2 cents - Run! 🙂 Something better without the drama WILL turn up for you if your open to it

[@vanessadutra5290]

Guys, I live in Italy in an apt. where the ceiling is almost 4 meters high. There are so many ready made mezzanines made out of metal or wood that you just ensemble. If it’s possible to be dismantled, it’s legal. You can even redo exactly how it is now , but in wood, and that will be legal. Regarding the safety of removing that floor, it didn’t exist before and as long as taking it out with a “geomatro” or someone specialized (which can probably make it a must to continue with the purchase) and there are no other signs of cracks or instabilities on the house, then It is just like any other house that has been modified lots of times since the middle ages. I don’t know, just seems like 90% of houses in Italy have been modified lots of times… any chance that you or the seller could just pay a fine to keep the construction? If it’s considered safe, of course. Maybe this is just a sign that it’s better to have a smaller mezzanine to be able to see Noah from bellow or to to make have a mezzanine not there,but somewhere else in the house. Wishing you guys the best of luck!!!

[@KHM2906]

Yes, that house has been there so many hudred years and propably started as an animal shelter or part of that castle and it is still there after modifications and I bet that this leagal stuff with drawings is invented after that floor was build😅

[@jilllangman9343]

I think the roof is also an issue. It was glossed over, but l heard it mentioned. It’s in a bad state and who knows what water ingress damage has been done? It will continue to be an expensive nightmare.

[@nikimp3]

Correct. With the doubled money you get from the "caparra" as already suggested you could make a new mezzanine in wood from scratch and remove it once your kid grows up. And even reuse the wood for another project further down the line. I doubt the demolishing compromises the structure of the house as it was evidently made for the lady who lived in it at the time. But as someone said, see what it looks like once it's been removed and make you mines up whether you decide to keep it or let go. P.s. I doubt the bathroom needs to be demolished as once the upper level has been got rid of, the bathroom will have a higher ceiling. So that can bee easily sorted by going up with the pre existing bathroom wall. That's what I'd do anyway after having lived in Italy since 1986 and left the Uk as a kid. Good luck folks!

[@alisonwilkinson212]

@@vanessadutra5290 they don't get to choose who does the work plus they have a limited budget. They were not even told the kitchen was going. They have a lot of doubts and probably for good reason.. A can of worms. They wanted to move in and live there not start to rebuild.

[@Aobokeh]

Speaking as an architect, I think it's not uncommon to find unpermitted work in a residence for sale. What is kind of refreshing in this case, is that the seller will be responsible for correcting it before the buyer takes ownership. I think it's better than finding out later, when you decide to do work on your new house and the local authority won't issue permit until you correct the nonconforming stuff you unknowingly inherited. It wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me but I also wasn't in love with the tiny mezzanine.

[@BethC817]

Agree, also as an architect and someone working for a city on the permitting side of things. This is so much better than what happens in the US. I thought realtors and title companies would check permits but many do not. I'm constantly seeing families that just want to add a screen porch to their newly purchased house only to find out half the building was never permitted. I see potential in this house if you have the budget for a full kitchen remodel. And ideally if you're allowed to add back in a bathroom. However I wonder if they can see the finished work in the kitchen before deciding? If it's not in a usable state then it's not really the same house you put an offer on. Perhaps it's different in Italy, but in the US you would normally negotiate a lower price if an issue like this came up. If they are not amenable, then walk away.

[@whocares961]

They should not forget that this would probably still take a lot of time and money... And they don't really have enough TIME for a construction site like this... Furthermore, there is also the question of what it will look like after "demolition"... It could also be catastrophic... That's Italy ;-)

[@izoyt]

@@BethC817 well, as an architect, who also deals with permits (not in italy, but nearby, so still eu), i would they this is just sweet talk from a seller, to get money at the end. i realy doubt, seller will beside potentially demolishing subfloor etc do also all the paperwork needed, to get house on legal side, get residential permit etc (which all is probably needed, if you want to have renting business etc). but funny, how it seems everywhere (even in western hemisphere) we are witnessing same problem. im a vivid supporter of idea, that no house or any other building should go one the market without properly arranged ownership(s), land borders and building permits as standing in situ. we all check this essentials, when it comes to cars etc, with houses, where all life savings/loans go into, we just skip those things.. as renovation goes: with old buildings like that (i have experience with them and we actually own a stone weekend house at the coast, which was renovated under our ownership) you can always expect surprises and more work than expected at first. if you cam manage do some stuff alone or/and will be always supervising etc (which i really cant imagine how you meant to do that with small child and have plans for travelling - i would say eve last two is not good idea) then maybe, otherwise i would say reconsider very carefully (and not just about the house).

[@debra7241]

@@izoytlots of bull shitters, in Italy, sometimes when it comes to buying and selling because structures are old. Can’t always trust the sellers, or the bureaucracy when it comes to permits. How do I know this? I have family who have dealt with it in Italy, and I can’t imagine a town smaller country like Sicily, is any better than Rome. You grow old just waiting for the inspector to show up to advise on permits and then you never get two people working from the same place giving you the same information, lol! It gets bonkers, and incredibly expensive.

[@irenedavo3768]

@@BethC817who wants a house where you cannot stand up in rooms?

[@contradavibes]

I am italian, and I recently bought a countryside home. I made some shorts on my (wannabe) channel about it. What i can advise is to do all the checks BEFORE paying the deposit . It is not illegal the house per se but those are called "abusi edilizi" in Italy and they require time and lots of work to be adjusted. Personally I would look away as there seems there are too many. Also keep in mind that ceiling like that are always not regular. Good luck!

[@butterfly-kb4cn]

I just subscribed and would love to see more! Your place is beautiful ❤

[@contradavibes]

@butterfly-kb4cn thanks a lot! ❤️

[@MJBsays]

Well said. Great advice. In fact, one of the best selling points in Italy, at least where I'm from, is not only to have all the trail of building permissions matching the plan, but also to have permissions already approved for eventual extensions or modifications. The property where my family lives is under my name and my dad drilled into me this information as he knew after they'd pass (he already did, only my mum is left) I'll probably sell since I live abroad and have no intention to return living in Italy or keep such a massive house. So if I were a buyer I'd seek sellers like that, it saves a lot if headaches and disappointments. Interestingly as I live in Hong Kong where you also have to get planning permissions, last year there was a big scandal in a very wealthy neighbourhood for this very issue. Following a typhoon there were lots of landslides which took away many parts of houses extensions, gardens and swimming pools. Residents naturally called the police and from that ot turned out so many had built these extensions and swimming pools without permissions, so not only they got the damage to pay for since insurance wouldn't cover but they also faced legal repercussions from authorities. What's worse these are million of dollars worth properties so people can't claim they didn't have money to pay for permits. There are always some who think the law is a mere suggestion then karma gets them. 😏

[@Jenesaisquoi44]

No don’t buy it. That’s a nightmare waiting to happen. Unfinished torn apart space - i can say what’s next - plumbing and electrical isn’t exposed yet and no Home Depot. Trust me I have been through it - cost me not thousands - a hundred thousand plus on top. You will find everything in one house with a move in key, a kitchen and a playroom. Plus a little garden and a great view.

[@betsybrennan7101]

“No, I don’t want to walk away from it. “ That’s what you said before you brought the van that blew up. Get a serious grip kids, especially in somewhere like Sicily.

[@sandrawegman4688]

This is why I can’t watch them anymore to be honest. Not because they are not nice people but their lack of common sense and just always making the wrong decisions, I can’t take it anymore 🙈

[@themunros1]

​@@sandrawegman4688Yes agreed, but it does heighten the drama & get more views adding to their already very very lucrative channel. Not that I'm saying it's contrived of course.... definitely not.

[@jt.s.7418]

​@@sandrawegman4688They are virgin house buyers. Not Realters or builders. Be kind

[@sandrawegman4688]

@@jt.s.7418 I am not being mean, it’s just in general how they go about their live. It is fine for them and it’s just not for me 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@randimochamer6284]

They’re so young, they can afford to live in the moment-not much need to plan too far ahead. I mean… not even living in the house full time. Life should be so rough. 🙄

[@88lindsayalex]

As the wife of a Realtor- Here is my Husband's professional opinion. I recommend walking away unless you can put it in your contract that everything is demolished than fixed to your exact specifications. If it is not.. then you get deposit back and move on!

[@RachelTScott]

Little room is creepy. I would be glad to see it removed. 😂

[@lauraslanesvanlifetravels]

I agree with most of the comments below...RUN AWAY! I mean, you get money double back also...with that situation, I'm sure you will find a better home for you guys!

[@LauraTuller]

These things happen for a reason. If it’s not 100% all in, then it’s not for you. There is something BETTER that awaits you. Trust your gut. 🙏🏼💗

[@HappyBerryCrochet]

New sub here! So sorry to hear about this, i can imagine how heartbroken you must feel right now, but like others have said, it might be best to walk away. If the owners have been hiding so many things from you there could be many more hidden nightmares awaiting you. As someone who moved from the UK to Hungary and bought a house here, my priorities were always roof condition first, good electrics and plumbing, insulation and good doors and windows, i also used an official estate agent. It can be so easy to follow a dream, your heart and romanticise buying abroad, but in reality you need a sensible head, a practical house that you can make into your dream. Good luck! Don't give up hope, everything happens for a reason!

[@gamingcreators-y1q]

I have lived a long and eventful life. I promise that your next "Dream House" is out there somewhere. Don't settle, unless your my wife, I'm glad she did

[@locket5312]

lol that made me chuckle 🤭. And also agree with your viewpoint. It’s such a shame for them but there’ll be another one.

[@trailingarm63]

The low ceiling was a daft idea in the first place. Children grow up quickly: I know you two aren't the tallest but your kids will probably rocket up and the ceiling would soon be a problem. That said, as you explained, the changes are a risk as to how well they would be done. But the main thing is the house itself. Is it big enough? Is there enough outside space? Is their parking? Is the location really ideal for you? If the answers to these questions is "yes" then I would stick with it but negotiate a discount on the sale price to cover future works such as a new bathroom, new ceramics, painting and so on. Looking on the bright side, at least the house is not on fire.

[@kookietherapy9398]

😂😂😂

[@freebd99]

Kids grow so quickly too. I think the idea of this kids space is exceeding the reality of whether they would have really been able to enjoy it. Lol

[@susannahfox7188]

And hard to sell with that "tiny room" as well.....

[@donnakitt2672]

While you were telling us this story.. the picture I had in my mind is of you running from your camper van in the USA as it burned🙄😩. You will find your perfect home.

[@jj-if6it]

yeah I didn't like that weird tiny room, they couldn't even walk around properly. and high ceilings are much nicer

[@BrianAlt]

Walk away. The #1 thing I tell anyone when entering a real estate deal is, be prepared to walk away. So many things can go wrong, you need to be prepared that it just won't work out.

[@kookietherapy9398]

Often, the universe is protecting you. Trust. You may find something even better. I'd rent in 6mos chunks, around different regions of Italy,

[@JuneWright-n2m]

Please do not buy this house, it will be a huge headache to finish all that demolition and make the house livable.

[@krystinawest7772]

Hubby and I have been through hell this year because of an unwise real estate purchase. It has totally wiped out our life savings. We had an inspection and most of the major issues with the house could not really truly have been found until we started living there and finding them all. Please take the other people’s advice to walk away. Because you seem to be good people, we are good people and guess what? All the money we have spent on this money pit of a house is because we could not live with our selves if we sold this house to someone that had to fix all the broken things we have had to repair. We now hate this home, as soon as the final project is fixed we are selling and never moving in to someone else’s neglect and woefully inadequately maintained home ever again. The charm of a 130 year old home has disappeared and will be replaced by a new build. Good luck with the wedding and Congratulations.

[@shelleyann4073]

Love your channel ❤ Go with your gut .

[@aileenbell6750]

That kitchen would have a beautiful high ceiling without that small room. And as lovely as a kids room would be, your kids would need to be a very specific age range to enjoy it. Kids only really love spaces like that for a couple of years, and then outgrow it. I mean, it is a lot of work to fix up the kitchen ultimately, so that is a decision you have to make together. ❤

[@jameshaddan8538]

Agree with all you said!

[@dubdaz1]

Location location location …. Only if you can get the house cheaper would I still buy it , in your position.

[@inthehouse1960]

I totally agree. That little room is only going to be usable as a play area for about a year. Not sensible to base a purchase on that. Let the sellers pay to do the work you would have to do eventually.

[@jessicahagard8185]

Exactly my thoughts! And small children wants to play in the same room as where their parents are so the room would mostly be of no use. I believe the house is ok but I didn't like the kitchen as it is. With a higher ceiling and no toilet, it would be more spacious. And with the tiles it looks like a bathroom. Now you will have the work done for free. Perfect! And you can make a beautiful Italian kichen. Just check so the chances doesn't damage the construction. I would follow thru if you otherwise like the house and the village. This will only make the house better!❤😀

[@gemmac1655]

So true. We had a playroom it basically became a Toy Storage Room. The kids would drag their toys into the lounge/kitchen and play near us. Ended up scrapping that and using the room for another purpose in the end.

[@galeblair7371]

No. Walk away. You should never be so in love with a house that you make a bad decision despite trepidation. I think the owners had to have known this house “as is” was unsellable. Continue with your search for something better - you’ll find the perfect home somewhere else.

[@Phiyedough]

There are loads of negative reviews for Better Help so I would suggest extreme caution.

[@EscapeAdventureswithRobinSteve]

and they charge an arm and a leg... better to find better less expensive help

[@andybutler3868]

Travel beans will need better help if they buy that shack , the signs are saying run run run ,

[@PassiveAgressive319]

You don’t pay their bills…..stop with the judgement

[@ferney2936]

it wasn't judgement against travel beans but simply suggesting caution about the quality of the business they're being paid to advertise.

[@farmgirlpicker6423]

I made a decision to buy a house based upon my dream and my heart and it was a complete nightmare and a huge mistake. Stay away from this deal!!!

[@petgranny194]

Dreams can quickly become nightmares. Another KZbinr I watch bought his first house in Portland OR, USA. It has been a nightmare because of all the illegal construction that was done on the property. He has had to demolish multiple buildings and additions that were without permits. I commend Sicily for having regulation that protect you, the buyer. Isaac has spent thousands upon thousands of dollars just tearing stuff down, not to mention all the hard work and destruction of anticipated use of said structures.

[@lisacraig4585]

As a retired realtor, never fall in love with a property. With cheap houses flooding the market, you were unlucky to find one with the unregistered renovations. B&B accreditation is even more stringent. Keep looking❤.

[@VGL72]

As somebody who has bought many houses I wouldn’t touch it.. you don’t know the standard of work and what they will leave you with … it’s a very difficult situation

[@MargauxPyke]

I cant help but feel that raising that ceiling and making the kitchen a much more usable space is going to prove to be a hidden bonus. The gloriously high ceilings and improved wall space will make that space sooooooo much more functional and pleasant to be in. You can turn little Noah's room into a delightful playroom for him. What matters is being where you want to be, and being with the people you want to spend your time with.

[@irenedavo3768]

What’s it like in Winter?

[@Jenesaisquoi44]

Nice to look at but usable Space = Value - even storage space is valuable - this will almost bankrupt them - once they expose electrical and plumbing they will be forced to do the whole house upgrade.

[@ellengordon2933]

I would walk away. You are looking at opening a can of worms. What will be found when the demolitions take place. And, will the home look like something that you can finish by yourselves or have to get tradesmen in to fix for you. Take your time and get what you want and need……

[@AnaWolovick-lc8bl]

exactly in the south of Italy as everywhere it is LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION

[@Olga-ut5hn]

I think it's a sign to move on and wait for something better to come up - there are still lots of houses out there, even with sea views, and you never know, could end up finding somewhere you love even more! x

[@WireItalia]

In Italy, when selling a house with legal or structural issues (called "difformities"), the seller is usually responsible for fixing them before the sale. This includes making sure the house matches the official records (Catasto) and complies with building laws. If the house has problems, the sale can be delayed or blocked by the notary. However, buyer and seller can agree that the house is sold 'as is,' with the buyer fixing the issues later. In this case, the price is often reduced to cover the cost of repairs. Everything must be clearly written in the sale contract. Post scriptum: I'm sure there are beautiful houses in the same area that are quite affordable and don't have any kinds of problems.

[@ail-on3px]

Acquistarla in queste condizioni e poi rimetterla a posto? Gliela devono regalare a queste condizioni. Gli costerà più soldi in ristrutturazione che il vero valore dell' immobile

[@WireItalia]

@@ail-on3px dipende dall'amore che hanno per questa casa. Alla fine, se il posto ti piace tanto e se sei supportato da un bravo geometra o architetto, si può fare. È il principio delle case vendute ad un euro: compri un rudere su cui investire, ma è anche il tuo sogno che prenderà forma piano piano. Oggi, la mentalità che va per la maggiore è quella di comprare una casa già sistemata e pronta per abitarci. I nostri genitori andavano per gradi. Prima ci abitavano e poi la sistemavamo nel tempo. Forse, un giorno quella stessa casa rinnovata avrà anche un valore sul mercato. Il luogo sembra molto bello e la qualità della vita siciliana sta attirando parecchie persone dall'Estero. Cose da considerare. Comunque, se tutto quello che c'è da fare mette paura, sono sicura che non manchino alternative nella zona d'interesse.

[@ail-on3px]

@@WireItalia quando compri un immobile in Italia, per non avere brutte sorprese devi valutare 3 cose. 1) la casa corrisponde alla planimetria originale registrata al catasto 2) che non ci siano mutui oppure altre tasse da pagare al fisco in sospeso, altrimenti se li deve pagare l'acquirente con una burocrazia e soldi infiniti da versare soprattutto in interessi bancari 3) che tutti gli eredi siano d'accordo nel vendere casa e tutti al prezzo concordato. Con gli eredi non si sa mai, magari qualcuno vuole guadagnarci di più alla vendita. Inoltre, 4) I documenti devono essere tradotti da qualche ufficio autorizzato,con marche da bollo da includere e ufficializzati da un notaio, tutto per evitare che chi compra non venga truffato. Le traduzioni fatte da sole o tramite amici, non hanno nessun valore legale. Gli amici ti possono aiutare con le utenze successivamente. acqua, elettricità e spazzatura. Ma questo avviene dopo

[@WireItalia]

@@ail-on3px sì è vero. Ma non parlerei di truffa perché tanto se qualcosa non va il notaio blocca tutto. Il fatto è che gli edifici antichi non vanno d'accordo con le nuove leggi catastali e non catastali degli ultimi decenni. Per esempio, una volta i muratori prendevano le misure usando il metro, ora usano il laser.. che si riscontrino difformità nelle misure, quindi, è normale! Comunque, meglio sempre affidarsi ad un geometra e ad un architetto. Loro sanno cosa fare.

[@ail-on3px]

@@WireItalia oppure ad un ingegnere , si trova tramite una agenzia immobiliare 🙂 dico truffa perchè ho letto di tanti stranieri che sono stati truffati non sapendo le leggi italiane

[@brendariley8982]

Maybe this is the universe saying, keep looking for the perfect place you want on the coast. I would walk away from this one.

[@kodiak64]

The universe? Whatever happened to God?

[@lassesaikkonen501]

@@kodiak64 Which god? Vishnu? Ra? Zoroaster?

[@kodiak64]

@@lassesaikkonen501 The One you will know is real before this decade is out.

[@lassesaikkonen501]

@@kodiak64 Lucifer is finally coming? Cool!

[@jj-if6it]

@@kodiak64 lol they say that every decade

[@dang4866]

Having lived in Sicily for almost three years be careful as local officials and individuals have a habit of making up issues for the purpose of bribing you for permits or paying more than you should.

[@Warrio64]

Yes, it is Sicily. 😁🏡

[@Babesinthewood97]

@@philkfotono not in any country

[@NomadicIslanders]

@@philkfotono

[@Jenesaisquoi44]

@@dang4866 exactly same everywhere i think - just when you think you’re following all the rules - they change them ching ching

[@tabithacollins6003]

An American couple on YT called Raising Voyagers, are renovating a mountain house, and had to dig down about 7 foot, from the initial building required by the local officials. One of their Italian builders said, that he had never heard of such a thing… and despite the family requesting Italian residency, to date has been denied… yet illegal migrants, ending up on Italian beaches in rubber dinghy’s are given the red carpet treatment, just like in the rest of the Western World and the USA :-(

[@markwbicknell]

MONEY PIT!! Run away. When that is knocked down, youll have no idea how the structural integrity is. Move on quickly beans.

[@tanalee229]

Exactly what I was about to write. So sad.

[@nickbrown6457]

Yeah, maybe that floor was only added to 'fix' a structural problem with the room.

[@markwbicknell]

@@philkfoto you don't know that any more than I know it. That's why I said that they'll have no idea. I've lived in the southern Mediterranean for enough years to know that old houses like that and as old as it is shift. I also know that these properties are bodged beyond belief too. It's a risk, and I personally wouldn't take it.

[@backroadsoap2889]

Take the house! You will have a blank canvas to make it beautiful and workable. Maybe even put in a little mezzanine floor if able to legally. Blank canvas!!

[@RobbieHerrera]

The house would still need to pass inspection after the work is done. This would include code and structural. If this is the case then they should be fine.

[@Scrubbalicious]

Found you by looking up impressions of Italy for our trip, love your journey and Noah is a lucky boy! Historical sites and B&B's did a lot for my wonderlust, My father used to take me to old ruins like Carthago and started telling me about romans and by seeing it while hearing the story made it a magical place and to this day I love history and architecture so maybe thats another angle you can enrich him with

[@HeyHollyYoo]

Hi Emma & Alex! I’ve watched every single one of your videos, I am a HUGE fan. My take on buying any house is that it should feel really right, and really good. If you have doubts, or lingering stress / anxiety, I believe it’s your gut and instincts telling you something is off and, I would say it’s not the one for you! Good luck and can’t wait to see what you decide!

[@sjwillis1137]

And maybe the tiny lady doesn't want them there 👀.

[@Otteal]

Casually throwing out getting married next week!! I heard in the previous videos that you were getting married soon, but NEXT WEEK!?!? CONGRATULATIONS!!! That's so exciting!!! Wish you all the love and happiness (now I'll go watch the rest of video lol)

[@christinevr7698]

I was thinking the same thing! That is BIG NEWS all on its own.

[@DT-rb7ro]

Kids before marriage Alex and Emma, really??

[@jj-if6it]

@@DT-rb7ro yes it's 2024?

[@DT-rb7ro]

@@jj-if6it Marriage = stability.

[@jj-if6it]

@@DT-rb7ro half of marriages end in divorce. It's no more stable than being partners

[@SPDTDL]

RUN dont walk away!

[@shinyshinythings]

It’s funny how we don’t have the same sixth sense when we are looking at property in another country. When I saw the thumbnail for the “unusual house” video, my first thought was, “Oh wow, that can’t be code …” (meaning in US house buying lingo that it wouldn’t pass an inspection). I’m sure if you’d have seen that in the UK, you’d have thought something similar. I’d suggest you keep looking. Good luck, Beans!

[@sheaholloway9537]

All of those dang houses look like they are unstable, particularly the places over the water. No thanks!

[@joyindrelie6715]

I'd be concerned about the damage that could happen with a quick demo. I'm thinking about all that tile. ❤

[@ankiking]

It is utterly painful to mentally move out of a place you have mentally moved into. I had that happen and remember “taking paintings down from the walls, taking books out of bookshelves” etc, and being so heartbroken.

[@kateh.7868]

As a designer I would tell you to walk ....remember "when one door closes another opens" and usually it's been my experience to something better. I do know how disappointing it is, but hang in there. Patience will prevail.

[@Gimme_mycoffee]

I think that in the long run the kitchen will be even better for not having the play area. A higher ceiling, a brighter space, and reclaimed area from the stairs. A few years down the line Noah would outgrow the play area and then you’re stuck with a space you don’t have use for. Losing the extra bathroom is unfortunate, but the plumbing will still be there if you want to look into adding a legal one, which makes it so much cheaper than starting from scratch. Ultimately you need to follow your heart (within reason) on whether it’s still the right fit for your family. Congratulations on the wedding!

[@natasha1369]

Red flag! There are other homes that will be less problems. Be smart and protect yourself. You will fall in love with something else.❤

[@erinblogs3640]

Keep looking. If it's meant to be, it will still be on the market and you can see it after the demo. Negotiate the price since the kitchen isn't ready to use.

[@davidball9180]

Sorry to hear that. I feel for you guys

[@alisonft]

If the height of the ceiling is the only problem with the small bathroom in the kitchen, and the owner must take down the mezzanine they illegally built, then why can’t you just raise the ceiling in the bathroom to meet the building code? Plumbing is all there so all you need to do is add height to the bathroom walls. And definitely renegotiate the price.

[@JayPee2212]

Because the walls above the current ceiling do not continue up. You would have to build up the walls. The current room upstairs is fully open to the area where the bathroom is. And since they are in rush to meet the regulations they would not be looking at building stuff up, they will simply keep demoing...

[@IsaRoseNet]

It also illegal to have a bathroom in a kitchen. You must have 2 doors of separation between them

[@JayPee2212]

@@IsaRoseNet Is that the Italian law?

[@epp]

@@IsaRoseNetI think that is the law in the uk but not elsewhere.

[@IsaRoseNet]

@@JayPee2212 yes, it is

[@francisdupuis6025]

I think the bigger issue is the single bathroom - that is a material change in the home much more than the half floor (which would have gotten tired fairly quickly). I would walk away unless they will contractually commit to a second bathroom.

[@cindyren5418]

Pro: you have a view you love, a village that you love and friends there. You like the tiles in the home and the rest of the house is acceptable. The price is affordable and, possibly, you can negotiate with the owners to have the demolition AND the restoration of the kitchen and bathroom done before you move in. (If they refuse, and you walk away, it will cost them double the deposit.) The beach is so close to the home! Con: You can’t see the finished results and don’t know if any more issues with the demolition will arise such as more damage to those beautiful tiles. You don’t know how long it will take them to do the work. You can’t be certain the owner will follow through with the necessary changes and paperwork. Things to consider: Another village isn’t as desirable as this one. There aren’t any other homes with this view available (at this time). Is it possible to take back your deposit and wait to see the final remodeling before purchasing it with the guarantee of no price change? And guarantee you the first choice before other buyers? Be disappointed in the issues you are having but don’t let them be an imaginary wall to your buying a home that suits your needs. Look at this decision as a business deal. Can the issues be ironed out to suit what you need? Can another area of the house be Noah’s play room? Have fun exploring other options as well! 😊

[@neilalex9809]

I agree just walk away! Too many negatives already. Just think you perfect home may be just around the corner...❤

[@sharoncrawford01]

I'm so sorry you guys are going through all of this when you thought you had found your dream home, you must be gutted. Especially knowing you potentially have to start from scratch again with your search. However, I strongly believe things happen for a reason, and in addition to everything others have said, I never felt it was a very child-friendly home, both in terms of all of the stairs, and the external doors in the house, but also the steep steps getting down to it, and the huge drop outside the house. You wouldn't be able to take your eyes off Noah for a second. Not to mention trying to bring shopping down all of those steps with a push chair etc. I'm sure there must be other beautiful homes that will become available for you, that have much less complications, and are more family-friendly. Good luck, I'm sending you lots of positive energy whatever you decide! xx

[@petros7929]

I remember seeing the property in Sara and Luca’s vlogs. So when I saw it again I said, I remember it. Besides the point, my opinion is: if I’m in your shoes, I’ll walk away. Reading most of the comments is seems that most of your followers are in favor of “not buying”. Too many unknowns. I will pray for wisdom and clarity of mind as you go through this process. Please, Continue to share, and wish you a great wedding celebration!!!

[@arabmoneymel]

i don't think you should go through with the house...if you say yes to everything, before you know it, they are knocking the whole house down

[@rosemercer7159]

When things fall through, it just means it was never meant to be and something better is around the corner!

[@carriehess-cbhaffiliate4426]

Love you guys!! Been a fan of your channel for a long time now!! Unfortunately, this is how house hunting and buying goes. It's quite stressful. I sorry to say, I would walk away from that house, possibly run!! Believe it or not your perfect house is still out there and you will realize this once it happens!! If you love Italy, keep looking, it will happen and you will find the most amazing home for your little family!! Trust me, I went through quite the journey to find our home, and so glad I waited for that perfect home!! Have fun hunting, it's out there!!♥️♥️♥️

[@sarahfrench9990]

So sorry to hear about this. I’m sure you will make the right decision in the end. Hope you have a great wedding. That boy of yours Noah is so cute and funny how he chats away while yo are talking. 😍bless him 😇

[@barbarahanson900]

It was a false ceiling put in with stairs and toilet, I imagine you're going back to the original plan of that section. You have the water connection in place so you can put in a nicer toilet sink , and have high ceilings, which I feel will give the house much more character. I would go for it , just for the view! 😊

[@cherilangguth2151]

I believe they would be taking out something that was added later and wasn't supposed to be there in the first place so i dont think structurely it should hurt the house. Do you have option to get it inspected again after work is done to make sure its sound? It certainly would be nice if you (and channel) could be involved in design and finishing of new space. I would also confirm if adding rooftop patio would be allowed in the future as that was important to you

[@judischarns4509]

Can you wait to decide after you see the finished product? I think with a serious price reduction I’d go for it because of the location. I d put in another bathroom if you can get it permitted. Losing that half floor to me is no big deal to me. I hated it too claustrophobic. Also problematic for an air bnb guests. But that’s just me. Just imagine how the owners feel. They (almost) got rid of a white elephant for them, now they’re back to square 1. Buy the view. Check now to see if the changes you want to make are doable.

[@nataliam5204]

I agree

[@Shelleytg8gb]

Wishing you a joyful wedding filled with love and laughter 😍

[@karinbenedetti172]

Its so true,in Italy you have to go with the flow in traffic,love your videos

[@jolene2172]

Don’t give up on the dream and that view! There’s always challenges when buying a house but remember location location location 😊

[@rileymccoy8040]

Absolutely NOT!! I would never buy the property!

[@karentillotson9772]

Your video popped up following Sara & Luca’s. At the end I said my opinion would be as so many others have commented here. Walk away. But then I watched your full tour video before this one, and I could see a better idea of the place. And your comments of how well it felt like home and loved the village and people. Is it worth fighting for? So here are my questions. I do have quite a bit of renovating experience, so the idea of checking out some things vs walking away is not daunting to me. How are your renovation skills? 1. How is that little room constructed? It wasn’t there until recent history, so it may have been built in a way that wouldn’t affect the load bearing original infrastructure. I’d check it out. If that’s all that is required, to remove the ceiling and stairs, it leaves you with a blank canvas. The kitchen has to be done anyway. I would make sure that not only is it removed but they do not leaves raw walls, etc. If plaster is removed in the process, then plaster has to be replaced to patch places. 2. Can you have your own engineer look at it? 3. Can you contract the sale go through only based on everything removed and restored to current code regulations? At least a shell that passes inspections. 4. Seems like that little bathroom could stay and just have a higher ceiling? Or was it put in without permission? if so, Could it be inspected, fix anything needed, and approved with just the ceiling part heightened? 5. You initially said in full tour video, you could move right in and there was just some plastering to do, then decorating over time. So, how is the roof, actually? What are the conditions of the structure over all? If I loved the place, views, people, villages, etc. and it felt like home, I would have an expert inspect before walking away. 6. I would probably have to ask Sara & Luca if they would be willing to help you extra in translating, etc. I can see this project requiring more of their involvement to pull it off. I would offer to pay them for some help with paperwork. Bottom line, in viewing your videos, by what you have said, your pro for buying outweighs the cons and not buying....IF you get positive results from inspections and answered questions. Best wishes for whatever you decide.

[@karentillotson2181]

Yes, could be that toilet door is not allowed entering from kitchen in that village. I read that in some European countries that rule was changed. As long as a sink is included to wash hands, it is acceptable to have toilet adjoining/entering the kitchen. A good question for their community planning department, for sure!

[@critterkarma]

Talk to an attorney and engineer. Taking out that ceiling/floor and bathroom, the integrity of the house could well be compromised. Especially since that header that spans across entry to short stairs down into the kitchen is likely weight bearing and structural. If it is, walk away! Walk away! walk away!

[@kismet2354]

I think the little room with the low ceiling space, can be a fire hazard

[@butchieblock9118]

Not to mention that the little boy won't be little for very long!!!

[@sharonfischer7767]

my very first thought upon seeing that space was was .... seriouly? youre going to send your small child to play up there alone alone? in a space where you cant even r6n in to help him when he screams? i loved your whimsy for loving it but NO.

[@EmbracethechaosPortugal]

Absolutely ,someone would die from smoke inhalation in seconds in that space ,so dangerous,only one way out with no realistic alternative. Most fires start in kitchens.

[@sandramillward8759]

Tough choices indeed. Sorry for the glitches. Amazing they could do those changes originally and not known it was illegal.

[@wendyday25]

I would search someplace else and make sure the building is up to code before trying to purchase. I would get an inspection

[@pammicakes41]

Awwww, it's so sad! I love that house and the farm...my dream! You guys will make the right decision for your family. 🙏❤

[@StellaSirius23]

I would take that many issues as a sign. The house could be a safety hazard, in which case, you are being guided away from it.

[@debbiedennison]

I just want to say congratulations on your wedding and hope you enjoy yourselves fully!!!

[@yieldtothenight]

I'd search for a town house with a garden /patio and some shade, somewhere where you can BBQ and grow herbs, lemons. and there little man can play. A view is seductive but imho shade and a breeze is more practical. Also I'd look for enclosed parking, leaving a car out in the elements will reduce its longevity. A garage is a great place to store things you don't want in the house. Getting a kid in and out of a hot car is not fun. Lugging shopping up with a kid would become tiresome. Think about boring things like where would you dry the clothes in winter? One small balcony railing is not enough for three people with bed sheets etc. If you are going to live in a place whilst it's being refurbished you need somewhere big enough that has a separate annex or the dust and noise with a kid would drive you nuts. Try to hold out own buying new white goods until the house is refurbished. I guess you have researched this but it's much more of a challenge moving to a place with two dialects / languages like Sicily or Catalonia in Spain.. I'd run from this house buy best of luck what ever you choose, best of luck guys. and Congratulations for your marriage.

[@fulks19]

I've been watching your channel since the terrible fire in your vintage RV. As time goes on, some of the most stressful things in life tend to fall by the wayside. It's hard when you dream and get excited and then watch those dreams melt away. I know regardless of the decision you make it will be the right one. My concern would be with the structural integrity of the home once renovations start. Good luck from Oklahoma City.

[@melsparkles]

I have grown to welcome this kind of situation. When you look back you will appreciate the events that have happened. Every cloud has a silver lining and you are so close to achieving your dream that the silver linings going to be epic. Give thanks, LET GO, breathe deeply and get ready for an awesome outcome🎉❤. The work being removed was additional. The house will feel a lot better without the mezzanine and loo in kitchen. You could always add a loft after you buy. I have one in my tiny house accessed by a ladder, I’m 60 it is no problem getting up and down. I’d ask if it will be finished off properly not just knocked down. Then you still can just move in.

[@sandybunn7924]

So sorry for the glitches you are experiencing. Maybe a blessing in disguise though, you might consider stepping away from this since you don't know how stable everything will be after the demolition. Lots of other places to consider in the same area. Best of luck and congratulations on your upcoming wedding!!

[@ladyfaith9347]

Walk away. Put it down to experience.

[@kookietherapy9398]

Rent in 6mos chunks ... all around Italy. Find your true spot.

[@carinazetterstrom5328]

I think that remowing that upperfloor and the toilette is a blessing in the and, because now you are going to have a much nicer and bigger kithen❣️

[@AlessioBarone-h5i]

As Italian 🇮🇹 I’m not surprised, unfortunately it is very usual in my country as often people makes illegal extensions, extra rooms or entire constructions in forbidden places or not official and not standard ways (self built not following the architectural rules, with risks of collapsing or damaging) then they wait for the next political reforms (condono) where the arising politicians to get support, votes, popularity they give a certain time frame and a small fine to accept and approve the abusive and out of rules constructions. The famous Berlusconi rode this wave multiple times getting the support of the riches and the poor. The first managed to get approved they illegal billionaire houses inside a protected forest or impossible resort on the sand in a protected area. The second plus the middle class managed to get a bigger house or increase the value of their properties through the illegal new room or extension. This would never happen in Sweden or UK and that’s why I was shocked when you bought in Sicily because often in Italy there are things underlying. On top of that while the small village looks nice and lovely you innocent British don’t see how extended and silence tentacles of mafia, burning shops if refusing to pay them a monthly fee or part of their revenue or deciding who does what and when. The lovely people you see hides knows everything and everyone so you will be targeted as the naive stranger to be fooled when possible. Do you feel safe to know that one day mafia will try to recruit your son when teenager? But you don’t see it and you cannot believe it but unfortunately is very common. Change country until you can! I personally love Scandinavian countries but Montenegro is a great option or Spain/Portugal.

[@joannavanderwaals1567]

😮

[@wanderlustforlifetravel]

I totally understand what you meant by 'decision fatigue' with house searching - I'm very much sitting in the same position now (for a few years already). The desire to just get it done and move forward is very strong. Just be careful that you don't let that emotional desire for a resolution lead you to make too many compromises, and ultimately end up wishing you'd listened to your gut instinct instead of your emotions. Whatever you decide, good luck!

[@RobertMackenzie-yn8ig]

Not what was advertised or shown when you viewed If it keeps changing what else is going to change , walk away , get your money back , hopefully you can , and there is not a clause in the contract.

[@carolclark8473]

Walk away. It's not right. I lived near the sea and while it was wonderful at first, it becomes like a picture on the wall or a hot tub. You will tire of it and the blush will wear thin and you will hate those stairs!!!

[@jj-if6it]

better to live near the sea than not, so at least you can visit when you feel like it

[@carolinelane9599]

Hear what your saying. Our old house had beautiful views over the beach and into the city on the other side. Reality is after a very short time you realise life gets in the way. Your too busy to sit on the balcony and take in the view. Not to mention ongoing maintenance due to corrosion damage from the salt.

[@AbigailGerlach-zt1sh]

If the house isn't going to be what you envisioned, and the new footprint isn't satisfying, don't buy it!!! It will always end up feeling like a disappointment.

[@Mel.H_]

Oh my gosh, just sending love❤❤❤

[@timnijsmaas4040]

You can do this!

[@tracyzehnder2902]

Hi guys, I’m so sorry for all your disappointments! Especially when you were feeling so good about the purchase and the village that you love. I think I would leave this place. I read in your last episode from a person who is one of your followers that they tried to purchase his house and didn’t for some reason maybe the reason that you are not purchasing? I don’t know. I would leave this one alone. It sounds like too much problems. You’ll find something better.❤❤❤❤❤

[@lisalastnamesmith]

Seriously guys remove that bathroom put a sink there since there's already water on that side of the kitchen. You'll have two sinks, two countertops, two sides with working spaces, since you both kind of like to cook and when they remove those stairs.... you'll have a whole new section for more counter space or more appliances. It's not the end of the world. And if these are actual deal breakers then you weren't set, sold, and in love with the place as much as you thought. 🤷‍♀️

[@julieinak]

The kitchen upstairs and bathroom in the kitchen are totally cobbled in and should not be there...I would carefully consider moving ahead. The thought there is a perfect home out there is not realistic in my experience. If you are buying a distress sale home then you have to cope with its issues. i am interested in your decision. Congratulations on your marriage!

[@tedgalperalper1828]

I had a place in Tuscany for about 15 years. I was very fortunate in that all the construction and legal issues worked out. Fortunately, I had connections that investigated the people I was dealing with before I purchased the place. In addition, the person who did the reconstruction was honest and hard-working. Fortunately, you have good friends who will watch out for you but do not let your emotions rule your logical thinking.

[@living4truth]

It's a **sign** that this is not the "right" house or it could be that the "timing" to purchase/invest in a house is not right now, for whatever reason.

[@monicamestas7566]

Rather than remove the whole bathroom, why wouldn't they just raise the ceiling of the bathroom?!? ?!? ?!?

[@christinecolson1221]

I agree

[@ambeko4690]

probably the bathroom has no permit

[@paulahatch9955]

It’s so sad😔Hope all goes well for you x♥️🇬🇧

[@moasresor]

Do not buy now. Look at the place when they are all done with the demoilition.

[@z9ski690]

I agree. That would lower the risk.

[@kookietherapy9398]

Get your deposit back.