iMessage on Android! For Real This Time?

[@_daniel.rad_]

Episode 200🎉🎉🎉 Bingo ❤🎉🎉🎉

[@ThidasSandaruwan]

🎉 Congratulations. That intro though😂

[@_daniel.rad_]

​@@ThidasSandaruwan😅 favorite 😂

[@StaticOz_]

Where’s Andrew?

[@StaticOz_]

Question was answered in vid ❤

[@_daniel.rad_]

@@StaticOz_ I also miss him man! Next week I think we're gonna see him 🖤

[@EricDejuanOOO]

Had an Android friend start messaging me yesterday on iMessage. It works really well, videos and photos are clear. This barrier shouldn't exist and Apple should find other ways to compete.

[@SujeetRaj711]

Will this ever happen to FaceTime?

[@undefinedchannel9916]

@@SujeetRaj711 Can't iOS people share a facetime link with their Android buddies?

[@nilneonilesh]

@@undefinedchannel9916 the ui is just bad and worse experience for both the parties tbh

[@kota661]

Beeper is broken 😢

[@theharesbreath]

​@@kota661seems to be something Apple did :/ Beeper mini as well as the iMessage bridge on the main Beeper app are broken

[@_shreyash_anand]

The GR Yaris is more than just a car. It is a special thing. A rally homologation special based on a project that was cancelled but they decided to build the road car for anyway It is the only 3 door Yaris, has a carbon roof, a very advanced all-wheel-drive system, weighs about 2600 lbs and has 260hp. Also looks pretty sick and sounds pretty awesome

[@CalumRaasay]

right?! Once of the most impressive hatchbacks (if not new cars) of the last few years.

[@obsydian806]

It's the ultimate hot hatchback reborn

[@6cmh3]

THANK YOU! I just commented saying the GR Yaris is an amazing hot hatch. All they care about is smartphones with wheels

[@Jet0919]

Also, Toyota wasn’t even referencing the GR Yaris, they modeled the new EV after the Yaris Cross which is much less cool but way more high selling

[@steez1439]

And its only 20,000 Made tho. Here in the Philippines only 1000 Gr Yaris here. And it's sold out already.

[@theharesbreath]

PSA: Beeper mini (and iMessage integration in the main Beeper app) have been broken by Apple

[@DavidEmil_]

Damn, that was quick.

[@LordSaliss]

Another PSA: it is now back functional again. lol. Got a lot of bad reviews ovcer the weekend though from users who found out about the app from places like this only to have it not work due to being blocked by Apple. Apple also put out a statement about how they are trying to block Beeper Mini and any other services that manage to get into their iMessage service because it is "unsecure", and will adversely affect iPhone users by letting people without an iPhone to contact them under the appearing of being in the Apple ecosystem.

[@Guat231]

And they have been fixed

[@user02350]

​@@Guat231nope

[@jacksfrozen]

David really out there doing the Lord's work for Beeper. Way to go, man!

[@JimboJones99]

God Bless Beeper Mini 🙏🌅 God Bless President Trump 🙏🇺🇸

[@theharesbreath]

Beeper Mini (and looks like the iMessage bridge on the main beeper app) are broken now unfortunately. Seems to be Apple's doing

[@jacksfrozen]

@@theharesbreath Yeah it looks like that. I'm able to SMS with iPhones on the regular beeper app. I'll give it till tomorrow morning to see if they have fixed it but after that I'll be gone

[@mshark2205]

It’s done for already.

[@mjdalicandro]

aaaaaaaand it's gone.

[@SimonPiquer]

Weird intro, but I dig it

[@999imo]

A moment to ponder and reflect, i also dig it.

[@MrJunglewhite101]

Why weird? I dig it also and tbh a lot ...

[@Blackbird9070]

It’s the original song from when they started the podcast

[@cartmanpig92]

I guess you never got lucky when you were 14.

[@rushikeshtapre8620]

Goofy 🤪😋 ahh podcast

[@theharesbreath]

The GR Yaris is an amazing vehicle that a lot of people would kill to get a dealer allocation for. The Yaris cross is different

[@El_Villan0]

That was one of the intros of all time 😂

[@mommyofceos]

Congratulations Waveform Podcast for 200 episodes 🎉❤ I've been here since the first episode so congrats to me!!!

[@genesissmg]

congrats to you indeed. I'm glad I recently found them. They're great ❤

[@CalumRaasay]

Cannot believe the disrespect I'm hearing here for the GR Yaris 😭 Literally one of the greatest (if not THE greatest) modern hatchbacks ever made!

[@garrettord]

love the way marques’ comparison from the magic mouse to GTA fizzled out. Walking on thin ice with that one… 😭

[@brianmiller1077]

People like GTA, no one likes the current Magic mouse.

[@alessandromenini751]

26:50 Beeper is not Open Source. It's written on the FAQ page of their site.

[@JSmooVE3990]

Lol The Yaris section had me screaming at my phone. I still love you guys though.

[@unintelligiblue]

the 'mood' for voice message could actually be incredibly useful. it's like adding a color-tag to your messages so they're easier to find back. The problem is, people using voice messages don't normally care much about sercheability to begin with :'D

[@YohanBelval]

Most would argue the Ferrari F40 is the first production car to hit 200 mph. The 69' Charger Daytona that hit 200 mph was a heavily modified NASCAR version. (edit: I would have expected Marques to know that 😆)

[@nathanwray6308]

And not only that but Richard drove for **Plymouth**. Buick is a GM brand and has been since since 1908. Richard was also not a brand loyalist and would jump ship to who's ever car was fastest quite regularly through out his career especially in the pre-modern era where the cars did infact start as production cars(modern era being kinda mid 80's onward with the advent of everything starting as a tube chassis with body panels that resembled the road cars over top)

[@Merlins_Technic_Garage]

Yeah that's what instantly came to my head as soon as they said 200mph 😅

[@Joseandresyanes]

the fact that they didnt know the GR yaris or even what GR means in toyota just shows that they are not car people, they are just tech people... the problem is they talk about cars as if they have the same elevel of expertise as in tech

[@Czimizu]

As the only Nascar fan that listens to this podcast, it's my time to shine!!! The ending trivia explanation was spot on. Nothing major to really leave the woodwork for. Cheers!

[@20motu08]

"Moods" on voice messages is actually great. Whenever I'm in a situation where I can't listen, I want to at least know what the general nature of the voice message is. Great addition!

[@DavidImel]

Great point!

[@samuelkibunda6960]

I so wish Andrew was here, he would've geeked out about GTA 6

[@charlesdamien5849]

Just something you don't have to click out of this video The GTA 6 trailer currently has 128 million views.

[@RealFaodail]

Now 130

[@RudyOMP]

The GR Yaris is incredible

[@ethanmeyersproductions]

keep up the good work! Congrats on 200th episode!

[@mattjgraham]

It’s the weekend guys in the UK. Merry Christmas to everyone. 😊

[@slaterbreaker]

David always looks like he rolls in off the street from a tent outside

[@AbandonedRaven]

I hate to be that guy, but the trivia question about the first “production” car to reach 200mph is a bit off. The Dodge Charger Daytona referenced in the answer is a heavily modified race car, and is not the production version of the Daytona. The typical answer is Ferrari F40 is the first “production” car to reach 200 mph, and even that is slightly controversial since I remember hearing it did 199 point something. Some consider the Ruf CTR “Yellowbird” to be the actual owner of that record since it did 213 MPH. I hope I don’t come off as a rude “Well actually” guy, so I’m sorry for that. I have no idea why when you look up first car to reach 200, it automatically goes to a lap done in NASCAR. Edit: Also congratulations on 200 episodes! And if you’re really curious, the first car to reach 200 mph ever was the Sunbeam 1000 HP in a land speed record at Daytona Beach (203 mph) in 1927.

[@TechSpaceCowboy]

Hot take: Either Apple tries to sue them, or Apple brings iMessage to android. I think either way beepers life is going to be short

[@swaghigi1266]

or both lol

[@KelhamJack]

Apple runs all of the iMessage servers free of charge for it's users. You're paying the premium for the device to enjoy all of the benefits Apple brings you. THAT they may have a leg to stand on, because this will drastically increase the server usage on Apple's end. Not to mention, Beeper Mini is utilizing all of the features Apple provides, making money off of it, and not paying for anything.

[@vikrambalaji4126]

@@KelhamJack how nice of apple to generously let us use their imessage servers free of cost its a shame evil greedy services like Whatsapp, Signal, Messenger and Telegram make us pay to use theirs. Whatsapp even forces me to do some of their backend maintenance every once in a while to use their audio calling feature!

[@theharesbreath]

Beeper is unfortunately down as of the last few hours. Seems to be something Apple did

[@KelhamJack]

@@theharesbreath have Beeper made an official notice themselves? I mean if it’s down I’m not surprised and I don’t know why these tech KZbinrs who I thought were smart take their word for it being legal based on reverse engineering laws? They literally use Apple’s servers and are asking for money from their users for something that is Apple’s?? It seems like common sense that part is illegal

[@Tectonicia]

If there is a podcast award show or media award you guys definitely deserve a win!!!

[@charlesdamien5849]

Who else thought there phone was lagging with that intro 😅😂

[@renReee]

The 200 MPH answer is incorrect. The 1969 Daytona was heavily modified and was a one off, it’s not considered a “production car”. The first production car to hit 200 MPH was the Ferrari F40.

[@TimpossibleOne]

"Try Beeper mini" "I don't think Apple is going to close it" [Apple blocks beeper mini almost immediately]

[@gdfan618]

Really wish we had two episodes of these pods per week. I look forward to it every Friday. Then it’s gone so quick ): Love you guys.

[@peterlumwanga428]

Same

[@peterlumwanga428]

I just go back and watch the older episodes

[@sbrader97]

GR Yaris is like a rally car for the road it was a homligation wrc car but the rules changed in wrc so it never actually got to race in wrc in that form they sell the GR corolla in the us with the same powertrain and it's even got the same awd with a bit more power

[@nirmalpatel1917]

Apple will probably get around beeper by including hardware identifying data, or a way to fetch it, in the registration message. Like serial numbers, imei, device keys, etc... Never underestimate any company's desire for compete control of their product

[@sbrader97]

That's already what there doing and beeper is sending a Mac or iPhone serial number to the server so then it appears to Apple as if it's a real device

[@undefinedchannel9916]

They can't do this easily. Any updates to the iMessage protocol will kill compatibility with older versions of iOS (and Apple would have to release an update patch for any phones and Macs they still want supported). Also, Beeper could also send "hardware identifying data" ripped from a real iPhone.

[@Lachlan_McDougall]

@@undefinedchannel9916it appear you are wrong

[@malikshaurya94]

Marques was absolutely savage with his quips in this episode! Genuinely made me crack up. 😂

[@jonathanoliveira326]

I was fully expecting the second Visible ad to be copy/pasted. It wasn't. Here's to 200!

[@smaranrangarajanbharadwaj]

OHHH THE OG INTRO THEME 😭💜💜 The vibes mannnn, the good ol 2019 days 🤌

[@klutch...]

*It seems Apple is now blocking Beeper which proves the EU's point and Apple had to be forced to adopt RCS*

[@Leanzazzy]

Disgraceful how much CrApple is doing to maintain their walled garden

[@markrico5096]

@@Leanzazzycryyyyyyy😂

[@jweezy78]

@@LeanzazzyAny company with a trademark or copyright will have to defend it or lose it. That’s standard business.

[@brandon_nope]

No? It’s working just fine

[@akarshJD]

The initial seconds of silence was more than the one given for LG Phone division.

[@colsonrivers]

Honda is definitely counting every trim level of those EVs as different "models" within that 30. So they would count Hyundai as having like "9" EV models because they have 3 trims for their three actual EVs the IONIQ5 and 6 and the Kona Electric.

[@BlacMacLabs]

I never downloaded a recommended app faster in my life. Love the explanation from David as always.

[@SujeetRaj711]

Will this ever happen for FaceTime?

[@cwarren9981]

@@SujeetRaj711 you can actually facetime with an iphone they just have to send you a link you just cant send a facetime

[@Imprez2564]

Apple already found a way to block it, apparently

[@jasonmelo9379]

Well go ahead and delete it because Apple blocked it.

[@CreaminFreeman]

As someone who’s a big car guy, but not all that into current EVs, solid state batteries are the thing that will change my tune. I’m very much looking forward to this. Let’s let them cook

[@nigilvalikodath]

Love the progress bar on the ad reads!!

[@PlumeOfPrometheus]

I usually skip the intro clips, but I know people like them

[@Griffin519x]

That long gap in the beginning had me worried 😂 It was funny though

[@aaronraley]

RIP Beeper Mini (already). Really enjoyed hearing about it tho!

[@Mighty_Mersh]

I love this podcast! LOL Keep it up! Here's to the next 200!

[@fritzjmcdonald]

You need to make a Waveform Clips video out of the trolley problem discussion. The philosophy internet will love that bit.

[@mattjgraham]

Congratulations on the 200th podcast for you guys

[@Psk709]

47:15 Need to correct you on that one : the new watch unlock feature is actually different from "extend unlock"/trusted bluetooth, which has existed for years indeed, including with PW. - Contrary to extend unlock, it checks for distance between you phone and watch (with bluetooth strength I assume). I have it, when I'm more than 30 cm away from my phone, it doesn't unlock. - It automatically unlocks your phone when fingerprint attempt takes to long or fails - It warns you on your watch so you can re lock your phone by tapping on the notification It's much safer and fluid than extend unlock. Truely great for me.

[@ajpetix]

In case anyone is curious *how* Bard gets the blueberry question wrong, it says, "Yes, the letter R is in the word "blueberry". In fact, there are two Rs in the word. They are located at the third and fifth positions, respectively." For those who missed it, the third and fifth letters in the word "blueberry" are not R.

[@ohwellherewegoagain]

could not stop refreshing, i hate it when i get an episode on my podcast app first and having to wait for it to be on youtube

[@Nonnac11]

Had to come over from spotify to see Marques make the sound he made at 40:21. It doesn't sound human 🤣

[@anilpirwanii]

Episode 64 was also the episode that got me hooked to the podcast. I tried occasional episodes before that and even after that as well. It was probably only until last fall that I started watching every single episode

[@jasonoliveira2149]

"ya I got really lucky when I was 14" great cold-open 😂

[@brandonmalin4178]

FWIW: Ford does also have the E-Transit, the electric version of their Transit cargo van. It’s pretty decent for delivery carriers and other people like that.

[@nationharris]

You've been able to unlock your phone with pixel watch since it launched with the trusted devices thing David mentioned. The new thing is different it's supposed to be more secure or something

[@keerthan7558]

David explaining the different effects of emojis , reactions is kinda cute and funny xd

[@JMartinsATV]

Guys, the GR Yaris is one of the coolest pocket rockets ever. Look it up, it goes like stink. Also, the history behind the Gazoo Racing monicker is amazing.

[@toadlguy]

David, you are Wrong about the Google Gemini video. Fireship has a good video on it. Google even explains how these were done and it was not as it was presented.

[@DiamondMaster115]

Wow, 200 episodes, congrats!

[@galaxspace1]

You said production car, but Ferrari F40 was the first production car to reach that. The charger you mentioned was race mod

[@PhewChurz]

Google have already admitted that they edited the AI promo to make it look better than it is actually capable of...

[@pmpetry]

dig the extra opening music! SICK!!!

[@ssaaffuu]

congrats on the 200 th episode you guys and marry christmas everyone

[@brianp9114]

So I asked Bard the exact same question that Elise asked, and it definitely got it right. "Yes, the letter "r" is present in the word "blueberry.""

[@TheThaiLife]

The bard test was a setup. It wasn't done live, it was edited heavily.

[@ludwighelsen]

To me, it seems like Mark Gurman is talking about the Magic Keyboard for the iPad. Fun fact that one already comes with a USB-C port.

[@dggratton]

Yes congrats Marques on episode 200! 💯

[@jospherkanna]

5:42 I don't know why everyone's missing this... This video's a premiere. There were 1m likes even before the trailer got released.

[@mirzadnizar]

While watching it, Apple blocked beeper mini access to iMessage Lol

[@XLessThanZ]

That's a funny coincidence, Gennai. The only thing close that I can remember is Sam Sung, but he worked for Apple🤣

[@0Mastamind0]

I didn’t know about the GTA trailer until almost a hour after they dropped it

[@travelingtriathlete446]

"That sounds pretty petty" oh David, never change

[@Night.V.2]

Thank for the bleep! Very easy on the ear in stead off the verry high pitch ear destroying noise!

[@grandchester]

RIP Beeper Mini. We hardly knew ye

[@EbenPajanconi]

Hearing non car people laugh at GR (gazoo racing) naming is hilarious. Such a respected car badging and its just being laughed at lmao.

[@iamshikhersrivastava]

sorry for being that guy but Dodge Daytona was NOT the first production car to do 200mph. That would be the Ferrari F40. It was the NASCAR racecar version of Daytona that could do 200 mph but it was NOT the same as the street going car you could buy in a dealership.

[@ianthegeek]

"If we had done that with sunbird ... that would look really bad on us" hahaha... Beeper is already broken

[@adiijosh]

Lol, cant believe apple already shut down beeper mini 😂

[@JimboJones99]

Beeper Mini actually shut down Apple

[@gotenks157]

The thing with the GTA VI view numbers. They don't count the reuploads from IGN/Gamespot etc. The number is actually way higher.

[@erikmarez1464]

Marques brings up how often Google kills products and services every single episode 😂

[@don.wall_E]

Congrats WVFRM bring on 200 more episodes..... Let's gooooooooooooooo!

[@danielcapitaoo]

27:05 "How long 'till Apple closes this" & "Can they Lawyer smash?" Friday, 8th of December, and the answers are: Three days and yes, they can and did LMAO

[@_kenothia]

Didn't they already kill it (Beeper Mini)? Saw something to the tune of that on TechCrunch

[@hatzz]

I like the mysterious black screen 👀

[@VaalkinTheOnly]

Ayo that intro was absolute fire

[@alexdylan04]

50:00 Useless info but felt like sharing, the Toyota Yaris Cross, is a different vehicle to the GR Yaris, or the Normal Yaris. Its a Sub SUB Compact SUV and looks quite different to the Yaris/GR. Slay tho, love the show!

[@michaelguthardt327]

1st production car at 200- Ferrari F40… although it seems like that was marketing to position it ahead of the Porsche 959. From what I’m reading, no one was able to actually achieve 200 in an F40.

[@jfreshh330]

Oh I use them… for the vibes 10:02 😂

[@vin3738]

sometimes i forget the mkbhd crew isnt full of car guys, i was surprised they didnt know what toyota GR is

[@702johnny]

I was one of the people that thought iMessage stickers was a dumb idea. Then…. My immediate family started using them like crazy. Instead of emojis, of gif, we now use personalized stickers. Like instead of a crying emoji. I took a picture of my daughter crying. LOL. Now you have to watch yourself in my household or you might become a sticker. Don’t worry… they have some less than desirable stickers of me as well. It is a two way street.

[@erik87178]

thats really fun i gotta do that too 😅

[@R3YNZ]

Been missing Andrew, where has he been?

[@nishantrajani7372]

On paternity leave, he’s a dad now

[@R3YNZ]

​@@nishantrajani7372yup just finished the pod 😂

[@TheDuzx]

I'm just really happy that Apple is implementing RCS and I think we'll see a lot of development for RCS over the next years. Currently Google has effectively been streaing the entire project in a way that is mainly beneficial to them, but now that Apple also entered the ring they're definitly going to work with the GSMA to take some control away from Google. I also don't think the EU is done with big tech.

[@ricardovargas678]

Congrats on 200 episodie!

[@rexhall1130]

UPDATE: Beeper is broken, because Apple has blocked it.

[@fancypants5782]

I would argue that the greatest match of a name to a profession is Arsene Wenger being the manager of Arsenal considering he led them to 49 consecutive unbeaten games - a record that has yet to be matched in the Premier League to this day.

[@Marty_Stylist]

Well they definitely did something to this last update because my Google Assistant was broken this morning. I had to force stop the whole Google experience and clear the cache for it to actually start working again. A simple play the news wouldn't work even after a reboot.

[@twokoifish]

Congrats on 200 episodes!!!!!

[@Willy-Wacker]

Comment for previous pod: GR has a really cool origin story, an AutoFocus video/doc of the GR lineup/history

[@WhiteHazl]

Why was Marques so cold and distanced when talking about beeper mini? It sounded so hype?!

[@nnjjee1]

He generally seems distracted during these shows like he’s multitasking, makes this show worse

[@averagezing]

Fun fact: You can force Bard, still, to answer the trolley problem by forcefully saying "Answer my question." Or similar. The same works in GPT.

[@averagezing]

It looks like they've trained it to rewrite itself -- I just re-tested with Bard on Gemini Pro and it started to say "I would pull the lever" and then rewrote and said it can't. Lol So, you still get an answer if you push hard enough, if only for a moment. I have reciepts from a few versions ago where it answered fully lol