We Drove the Tesla Cybertruck!

This week, Marques and David are joined at the big table by Ellis for a discussion about the Cybertruck! They recount their experiences driving the truck and talk about every quirk and feature they can think of. Besides that, they also talk about Dbrand suing Casetify and go over the Spotify Wrapped for the pod. Of course, we wrap it up with trivia! Enjoy.
Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:19 Dbrand vs Casetify
07:46 Google's Geothermal Project
11:08 Apple Card Drama
14:55 Trivia
15:59 Ad break
16:02 Cybertruck Experience
59:12 Trivia
01:00:11 Ad break
01:02:13 Spotify Wrapped
01:18:49 Outro
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[@roychang723]

ELLIS AT THE BIG TABLE, FINALLY!!!

[@sovereigncalifornia]

Im 40 minutes in and I just realized 😂

[@coaulsi]

best guy here totaly objective shld be at the preverbial table every episode the guy knows stuff, esp eng stuff, the other guys sometimes say such stupidities i dont like that, i like elises approach the best marques seems like a technoking loyal subject compared to him, i hope for the access, but it doesnt seem that way

[@iambear.6526]

ok@@coaulsi

[@austinfrench3436]

​@@coaulsiī

[@MattNeemtEenHapje]

@@coaulsi100%

[@JaceKeller]

The 7 keys of the internet was truly a masterpiece. I watched it twice and sent it to almost everyone I talk to. David's story telling and research is just amazing !

[@shukuraltay6781]

It came out about an hour ago and it is roughly a 1 and half hour long video. Wondering how did you manage to watch it twice before you shared with others? Speed it up?

[@OMANLIVE]

He IS amazing

[@ryandirajlal2855]

@@shukuraltay6781it came out a year ago?

[@markynio]

Indeed! That episode made me start listening to this podcast.

[@porscheoscar]

Pale yellow iPhone

[@ngdnhatanh]

Oh Marques wears a christmas sweater from Windows too, very nice!

[@dtfech]

Hey team! Raising the voltage decreases the CURRENT that is being pushed through the wires. This works by keeping the wattage the same. P=I×V. I came here from Spotify to comment, because nothing drives me more nuts than someone correcting someone else with wrong information. When it comes to the drive train, power is performance, and Watts are power

[@dtfech]

At 26:00

[@aifresnofresno]

I came in here to say the same thing.

[@Sal3600]

These guys don’t know sht

[@Systox25]

Yea we don’t like him😅 I will only recover from this when they correct this at the next podcast 😮‍💨😂

[@jeanm3506]

Same here😂

[@DiamondMaster115]

Finally! Adam and Ellis have their own mics 😂

[@chiesathio5916]

The 7 keys episode is my introduction to this podcast and I can’t stop watching since. You guys makes tech so much more fun to consume and listen to every week

[@gaganpardhi0111]

Same

[@mattjgraham]

It's the weekend! UK guys! Plus It's a Cybertruck Weekend! Who loves a 40 mins marques video + WVFRM on the same day!

[@friendslovecars]

It’s interesting to compare this podcast’s discussion on the Cybertruck with the Carmudgeon podcast about the Cybertruck. Jason Cammisa had an opposing view of the truck, where he points out high levels of innovation and what those implications will mean for the industry at large. Overall, I’m happy the vehicle exists and Marques got to drive it!!

[@brianw8165]

Jason is an expert on cars. Marques is an expert in technology. That explains most of the difference.

[@chibidib]

​@@brianw8165Jason is also an engineer, Marques is Marques

[@ThomasHindbjorgen]

With the hundreds of huge things that have happened since the last time you did over/underrated, I honestly think it’d be really cool to see a sequel!

[@JrStocky]

Miss you Andrew congrats on fatherhood!!

[@LoomifyOfficial]

About the no mirrors on the cyber truck, there are laws in a majority of US states that mandate you have at least one functioning mirror that has to see 200 ft behind you (don’t quote me on the distance). If you have the bed cover down and the mirrors off, you are subject to being pulled over as a camera is not sufficient by law. I drive a jeep wrangler and constantly take my mirrors off and have had issues in the past.

[@702johnny]

7 keys to the internet was what got me into this podcast. Loved all of the David episodes. Learn a lot. Still love everyone else too. Just those ones are extra juicy.

[@dmpk9716]

The 48 Volt system is by far the most impressive and innovative thing about the car. The steering is also very interesting along with the new battery pack

[@Newtperc]

Steering is a recipe for flipped cyber trucks in my opinion. Jerking the wheel on the highway will be horrible

[@SeekoGT]

@@Newtperc I'm pretty sure the wheel will adapt to the input.

[@peterscott2662]

Agreed. In ten years most new car designs will be 48V. Steer by Wire is very innovative as well. In ten years I expect a lot more Steer by Wire, but it still won't be most designs.

[@Newtperc]

@@SeekoGT has that been reported? Or are you speculating?

[@SeekoGT]

@@Newtperc pure speculation

[@alezanders]

I’ve personally shared both the 7 Keys and Secret History of the Internet episodes with a bunch of friends as well as rewatched them multiple times!!! Those two are easily my favorite episodes and everyone I showed them to has loved them. I’m not surprised at all that people on Spotify also loved them.

[@getoffamylan6844]

I have a Model 3, and the blind spot cameras make other vehicles look MUCH farther away. I use both the cameras and the mirror when changing lanes.

[@freddychang7584]

In my MX I really just use the cameras. Removing the mirrors will add significant range - something like 5%. I will probably remove mine when I get my CT

[@luysterborgh]

Drive by wire is completely underestimated. It is an important step direction full autonomy. It announces full autonomy. in the meanwhile it is from a production point of view a blessing. You can produce much easiere LHD and RHD cars. Or even cars with the steering wheel in the middle. And no steering wheel at all.

[@jonaswelsch808]

Thanks guys for everything, making my week much better 🐐

[@TotalTonix]

52:45 David says, "They should do that preemptively..." YES, ABSOLUTELY! It's unbelievable that this isn't a feature in the current production model. Negligent, even.

[@amrgamil333]

I listen to the podcast all the way from Egypt and I'm happy to say that this podcast is the reason I got into listening in the first place. Thank you Marques, Andrew, David, Adam and Ellis. ♥

[@jonathanturyna5019]

Oh boy oh boy

[@none_the_less]

Oh Jonathan, Oh Jonathan

[@noeli_333]

Glass is glass and glass breaks - Jerry rig everything

[@leeward6762]

Exactly what I was thinking about the windshield...bet it's $5k to replace too

[@Sal3600]

Everything breaks if you surpass its tensile strength. What’s your point lol

[@carspotting4325]

The amount pf people that will throw rocks at it to find out will be troubling

[@LemironStarling]

@@leeward6762probably more it was $5K to replace my panoramic sunroof 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@leeward6762]

@@LemironStarling damn

[@user-to2rf1rj5v]

53:00 weird complaint. You can't see the corners of the Model 3 hood either. You just get a feel for the size of the vehicle. Takes like 5 miles to get used to. Also, front camera can be turned on at any time.

[@itisim]

Not cool

[@jayden6170]

Exactly

[@human_brian]

I do the 'look right to merge left' in my Model 3 because the blindspot camera is on the center screen so it's easier to glance down to the screen to make sure no one's in my blind spot. I think the mirrorless CT is going to be fine.

[@thomasreese2816]

The visualization on screen plus the camera is more reliable than looking out of a non-Tesla window with blind spots

[@ivankuljis1780]

@26:22 Finally, Marques....the thing that you and l AGREE on. The way it DRIVES...l must add the FUN of the whole experience!🎉

[@kreigerbailey3550]

Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!! 👑🇯🇲🔥💥🌟⭐💯💎

[@brendanjdoyle3152]

Great analysis of the cyber truck fellas…. Few crucial things on the innovation front you missed. The single largest casting (both front and rear) in a passenger vehicle. Steer by wire in a commercial truck and all the benefits that come with 48 volts. Also…. The glaring obvious… they have had to come up with a new composite of metal to build the truck…that’s a big one. So yeah… a few innovations, and that’s why it felt so solid when you hit those bumps…..

[@waiitwhaat]

Not at all surprised about the ICANN episode being the most shared. It's the episode with which I started watching AND it's my all time favourite episode!

[@iamdickel8574]

From Philippines listening to every show every week. love the topics.

[@gmonk313]

Small note: I think you meant B and C-Pillars, A-pillar is the one that touches the windshield and side view mirrors (typically)

[@ExhAustad]

I listen to this on Spotify. Just came here to comment this 😋

[@eskamobob8662]

@34:00 id love to get your guys take on Jason Camissa's thoughts on the cyber trucks innovation next week (just came from the carmudgeon show eppisode on the cyber truck and as one of the like 4 other people to be at the event he feels is a pretty fundamentaly revolutionary product for the car industry)

[@teasley1]

Awesome podcast today! Made my Friday 🤙🏽

[@YaleWall]

You missed a great opportunity by not calling him Chat-G-Brownlee. 😂

[@DiamondMaster115]

I liked your comments on the Cybertruck, you guys definetely looked like you were having fun reviewing and testing it 😂

[@TewodrosWondimu]

Let’s goooo! Weekend mode activated. Ellis needs a tech conspiracy segment.

[@averagezing]

Like many others, ICANN was when I started listening and I can't go back to listen to Pre-David episodes. Keep it up!

[@khaiidehara]

hearing a 3-point turn be called a K-turn is the wildest thing about this episode for me

[@Duke49th]

Really? I thought "it charges with 1000 miles per hour" was weird already 😂 😂 😂

[@barathram1777]

Trivia questions for this episodes should have been just based on Spotify Wrapped. Like what is the most listened to episode of this year or which episode did listeners go back to the most

[@dp8190]

I feel like you guys missed on the mark on the cybertruck innovation. As others mentioned, Hagerty's vid outlines all of them pretty well

[@karenrobertsdottir4101]

Yeah - and also Marques's claim that "all the numbers are worse"? Ground clearance (all trims)? AWD range? AWD and RWD towing? AWD acceleration? Feature lists (rear screen, rear steering, etc)? Like, this statement is abjectly untrue. It was mainly trimotor/beast that lost stats, but it gained acceleration, and if you're buying the top performance trim, that's what you care about. Also, it's bed isn't the same size as the Lightning; it's half a foot longer (at least at the base).

[@TheStringBreaker]

*Damn! These are some excellent Cybertruck insights! Also entertaining chemistry amongst the hosts!*

[@vesves_4]

Every year I fail at getting one of the Windows sweaters before they end up on eBay for $500, and it crushes me. This year’s looks pretty sweet!

[@Appletank8]

I think the 48V and wiring redesign to reduce weight is probably the biggest leap ahead the CyberT represents. OEMs have been trying for 30 years and they've been hemming and hawing all the time waiting for someone else to blink first.

[@josephthefirst1]

Absolutely

[@Matkatamiba]

I linked the ICANN episode to a bunch of people. Goated episode

[@MakeOdds101]

You have to have a driverside mirror in some states. You can get pulled over and ticketed in some states if you don’t have a driverside mirror. You can also fail an inspection if you have no mirrors. Obviously could be different state to state.

[@Fernie52984]

Another entertaining one fellas. Thank you!!

[@Superninja71]

Regarding the Spotify wrapped part, while I watch a lot of tech KZbin, you guys are the only tech podcast I listen to/watch. So I fall under the top genres for listeners are not tech group. I really like the whole MKBHD/Studio crew and don’t feel like listening to any other tech podcasts.

[@christiancambron9185]

Just so you guys know, there are already factory and aftermarket windshield wipers that spray washer fluid from the length of the wiper blade

[@jamesengland7461]

My 1990 Dodge Caravan had that

[@MarcJenning]

THe DMX referrence was so wild but so enjoyable! 😂

[@CreaminFreeman]

David, I’ve shared the HECK out of the 7 Keys to the Internet episode and have watched it at least a few times! Top tier stuff, keep being excellent!

[@ZivGershon]

Quick suggestion: when you do get the CyberTruck, you should take a first-person videoed experience with the Meta Ray-Ban

[@thomasreese2816]

Rear view mirrors can eat ~5-8%. With the range extender, the 470mi should reach over 500 miles

[@Thtguyfry]

first time viewer, this is the CRISPIEST podcast i’ve ever watched. sound & cameras are Immaculate!

[@jamesbruce1183]

The 240V outlet in the bed is a NEMA 15-50 like in an electric range. There are other 240V outlets so this is important. Windshield wiper - My 1977 VW Scirocco had a single wiper. IT was fine.

[@Aamirphd]

literally just came from watching the MKBHD 40minute video of the CyberTruck! So dope great video and amazing to see Ellis on the big table We should have one episode where Marques is in the Adam's spot haha!

[@MrBoomerhawk]

The description of not being able to see the front of the truck sounds almost exactly like my experience with minivans. I’ve had several and you just have to get used to understanding where the nose is.

[@jvaillancourt]

And probably even worse with most large pickups amd SUVs

[@Marty_Stylist]

Thank you for the shout out cuz I use KZbin cuz I like to see what you guys are saying but I also can just listen cuz you know your voices. We appreciate you. Thanks for all the great tech for the year of 2023

[@short_bar]

This and petapixel podcast are the two that get me excited. You guys are the only two podcast that I've listened to consistently.

[@user-to2rf1rj5v]

It's an incredible innovative truck. It's like the Model S. You think it's one thing (a family sedan), but it's actually good at nearly everything within the limits of its size and form. Same with the CT: offroading, hauling, work truck, family hauler, road tripper, dragging fancy sports cars, camping, baja racing....it'll do them all VERY well.

[@davidleviathan2077]

Seeing the MKBHD video then running tf over here cause I knew they’d be talkin about it

[@U2haveaniceday20]

Love the podcast guy's. Hope Andrew and Wife are enjoying. Thanks so much for sharing. ✌️ 💯

[@TheTeslaBaz]

The screen look when merging left was new to me at first in the Y. Now I can’t live without it

[@schassis_eddi]

Great episode 🎉

[@JMB676]

Watched the vid about it and it’s really cool. Nice in-depth on it and learn as you showed too. Very cool stuff.

[@alinazari4658]

Great episode, love you all guys.

[@J0514H_K]

I've been listening to this podcast for a YEAR now. that is crazy. I came from the clips Chanel because I wanted to know more about the Spotify stats and I've been listening ever since.

[@brands248]

Marques salty about Argon is the funniest thing to happen in WVFRM

[@zjamez2128]

Goated pod thanks guys!

[@ichaaw]

shout out from Indonesia 🇮🇩. always looking forward to your episode every Friday 😊

[@ruthietupas2264]

Shoutout to the Philippines 🇵🇭!!! So many mentions! Thanks David! 🎉😂

[@RyanShaferfeifei]

Ellis’s takes on the cyber truck are 👌

[@cheskafayatola]

Yes, the ICANN episode is epic ❤

[@CarbonSolutions]

Love the Spoon reference, but the album is ‘Hot Thoughts’ and it’s amazing ❤

[@ronstoppable9547]

This podcast is very engaging and cool. I'd change nothing at all. Keep up the great stuff MK and friends.....the guy that says....challenge accepted. Keep that up in every podcast with something else. It works

[@wil5367]

Is that the windows Christmas sweater?

[@noeli_333]

Techvember 2 months in a row let's go😂

[@TySchmidt]

45:30 not only strength of the motor to push against all of that leverage, but then if there's any "upward" force like ice build up on the passenger's side, the long lever arm will cause the wiper to pull up from the glass on the drivers side too. The wiper will ride on top of any ice rather than "scraping it" away

[@colingenge9999]

Windshield wipers are not designed to remove ice. Even if they had enough power, they rubber would get ripped to pieces very quickly. Having spent most of my life with ice on my windshield in the morning it’s clear that that has to be scraped off. Once the truck gets going, the defrosters keeps the windshield warm enough that there is no “ice build up”. That’s the job of the defroster.

[@Ven100]

There are plenty of vehicles where it's hard for you to place the front. Jaguar E Type, or any low slung front end ports car. I'd rather that front than some common large front truck grill. Also i love how it doesn't even need side impact beams.

[@JamesOKeefe-US]

56:24..."Guys, this is going so far left". 🤣🤣🤣 Honestly why this is my favorite podcast. Love y'all 😂😂

[@mattjgraham]

Zack looks like Hitman! Don't mess with him!

[@none_the_less]

Right? Agent 47 himself

[@spe007]

The dual motor range was announced as 300mi and is now shipping as 340mi. So the most popular trim has significantly higher range than advertised. Plus features like steer by wire, rear steering, front trunk etc that weren’t in the announcement.

[@julienvm]

Yes. To be clear, Tesla separated range and trim on this product, similarly to the SEXY lineup. Granted, 1st trim has a smaller battery because they need to cut down the cost. 2nd and 3rd trim have the same battery size. The differentiator is the power, not the energy. A range extender is available to get to ~470 miles, which is close to 500. I predict that in 2 years, with refinements of the 4680, that will become 500 miles. The only issue is the shape of the battery, which downgrades the usability of a flat bed. There could be a way to do a range extender with a different shape, allowing a flat bed.

[@spe007]

@@julienvm Yes, absolutely correct. I was referring to Marques stance in the intro that Tesla for the first time didn’t hold any of its promises. And as you can see, the most criticized is the range, which in fact is not that far away fr announcement: 340 beating 300. And 470 close to 500. Performance and features are also more than announced, including really useful things like powered frunk, vehicle-to-home, rear seat screen, etc. Those plus inflation plus general macro economics increased the price (which is totally in line with “competition”), which frustrates people. But Marques saying that Tesla broke all its promises for the first time is plain wrong.

[@spadaacca]

Crust, mantle, and pineapple! We all learn this!

[@ericn3221]

Marques and Elon have one thing in common. They call a truck a car. How hard is it? 😂

[@Jimbogf]

They are tech guys. Likely never owned a truck before.

[@therapyseshpod]

I’ve already told myself Ellis is my favorite and Ellis referencing DMX just put it so far over the edge 🙌🏽❌

[@KidMonkii]

That “where are you” when guessing locations was hilarious. I ugly laughed.

[@vic70ria]

I just love Marques’ sweater❣️

[@brandonmalin4178]

This is probably a top 5 funniest episode - couldn't stop laughing throughout. Yall just vibe it's awesome

[@toshaks]

10:21 -- Putting Carbon out of atmosphere and putting it in the earth is literally the carbon capture tech and we WANT that. David...you know better

[@urbanstrencan]

Another great podcast, guys keep up the great work, hope that you make episode on the best and worst tech trends in the car industry 😊❤

[@MisterSixty]

THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO/PODCAST - one I can watch/listen to in *real time* ie, I don't need it time indexed 🤭!

[@papa.mike01]

Zach seems like a genuine kind guy.

[@MajorWobbles]

Does anyone else think that there should be a “David’s Tech Tea (DTT) segment 👀🧐

[@LeagueofJay137]

Awesome episode Cybertruck recap was great I started listening in 2023 KZbin should do rewinds similar to Spotify

[@andresransom2839]

Definitely asked for Dbrand plates for my PS5 this year for Christmas! Now the hype is even more real! 😂

[@VdocVdoc]

This truck has me like 🚙🚙🚙🔼🔼🔽📐

[@a1exsand]

Ellis, it's not the BART. It's just called BART.

[@rog351]

The Cybertruck is so unique and has a practical capability. However, at this point it is not for me but there are at least two features I especially like. The Drive-by-Wire ability is so terrific where you can get a full wheel turn by only moving the steering wheel about one half turn. Also, the steering wheel itself is fabulous in that it is somewhat square and you can more clearly see over the steering wheel. You can also easily place your hands on the mostly flat top part of the wheel for a better position to drive as well as to comfortably rest your hands on the mostly flat bottom part of the wheel while in FSD or just cruising without it on…… so Terrific …. It would be Great if TESLA would offer these features on all of their vehicles. I am hopeful the new items will be available for the line up in the near future.

[@RogerChuiUKY]

Trains like BART screech when going around corners when those corners are too tight for the conical wheel shape to compensate and the wheel flange rubs against the track. But because of the shape of the track and wheel, trains don't need differentials or thrust vectoring. Practical engineering just did a video about why train wheels and tracks are designed the way they are, you should check it out!

[@thequietcraftsman]

Very nice explanation! I know BART even has special wheelsets designed to reduce flange squeal, and in Boston they use both graphite flange lubricators and greasing points on tight turns. Wheel slip due to lack of differential might cause some noise, but even if they had differentials flange squeal can be very loud.

[@RinzlerAkira]

Cyber truck (CRASH SAFETY) is innovation in itself beyond any other truck.

[@namuzed]

21:19 "when this truck was announced years ago it launched into a different world then we have now" Yeah, back then we laughed at it being bulletproof, now that's a great feature.

I knew the answer to the air trivia question because of an act in a LAS VEGAS show in called OPM !! Knowledge is everywhere!!

[@mikewifak]

Hot Rocks is the Rolling Stones compilation my dad listened to for what I believe was every minute of my childhood. I had like 19 nervous breakdowns.