Impersonating The Victim: Seeing Through Fabricated Evidence | Forensics | Real Crime

[@mghorvath79]

Some killers only get 8 years here in Hungary, Europe. I know one murderer who got out of prison after 6 years and killed again. Murder should automatically carry a life sentence without the possibility of parole anywhere in the world...

[@SuperTruthful]

Killers, if they get away with it or get their freedom usually kill again. I'm so glad in the US he would have gotten 25 years to life. Doesn't mean when he got out he wouldn't kill again. He'd just be alot older and hopefully slower. lol oh my.

[@petethetaper]

TAKE A LIFE DELIBERATLY, GIVE YOURS. end.

[@tiac3589]

Life is only equal with life. Murders deserve no life, even inside a prison.

[@mrs.dr.spencerreid3992]

I concur ‼️‼️‼️

[@titounoundici7920]

Oh, yes! Sad to say, but it looks like as european we have lost the right idea of justice! Surely, not each and every killer should pay for his crime with equal death: that is up to the Courts and their judges. But he who kills cold blood, he who kills merciless, he who has already been involved in crimes and violences against human beings..., well, there's no reason to have him alive, knowing he'll always remain a danger for society.

[@patriciakelly69]

13 years is not enough. The family must be devastated. The investigation and work that goes into solving these vicious crimes makes a mockery of not only their work but the death of the victim. Very sad, so sorry for her family and her little boy. Well done to all those who discovered the truth. X

[@roxiebabe4180]

Thank goodness for *every single person* who gave their time and energy into bringing the truth and justice along with the emergence of groundbreaking (forensic) science. this was too heartbreaking and mind-boggling, I cannot believe the short amount of sentence period given for such a heinous crime. ugh smh

[@grf15]

I've binge watched three episodes of this series in the past 24 hours. I know that I search for as many as I can find. A terrific presentation, every time.

[@marifromky]

i can watch like two or three then have to go watch something else. like plane crashes or idiots in cars. or something.

[@jomoland]

@@marifromky same! I thought I was the only one watched the plane disaster shows. Sometimes I’ll get stuck on Mt Everest climbs.

[@marifromky]

@@jomoland nah. there's plenty of us watching those air disaster shows LOL i've not watched the mt everest climbs. especially not the newer ones. all those bodies and then there's like a billion people lined up at the top. i think it's disrespectful at this point.

[@turtle19dad]

I like these too. I like seeing how other countries handle it. Law & Crime is pretty good too. Also binge watched Murder She Solved.

[@marifromky]

@@turtle19dad I think I've done two of MSS ?.. I also like the old episodes of unsolved mysteries

[@jillolearyhepburn5202]

He got 13 years!! He has taken away the rest of her life!! That is not justice.!!!

[@jillolearyhepburn5202]

Ufff tell me about it!! In my next life forget teaching, am gonna be an arse~kicking judge to lock those b**t**ds away.

[@solochristo65]

I believe also that she was pregnant.

[@jillolearyhepburn5202]

@@solochristo65 Even worse two lives!! I just hope he serves all of those 13 years and that his life is hell in there.

[@adamhilmersson4735]

He got life, with a non-parole period of 13 years. That is justice.

[@xell1969]

No parole for 13 years he said, that doesnt mean they will release him then, i hope not anyways.

[@titounoundici7920]

A few years ago, a man killed his wife and dismembered her body, throwing pieces here and there like garbage. Investigators lost for some reason the killer's trail, and when he was finally busted, his lawyers managed to find out explanations for his crime so keen and smart that there was no way to convict the man: he hasn't done not even a single hour in prison, nothing at all!, and he's as free as a bird, enjoying the money gotten from the life insurance priorly signed. Is that justice? Shoplifters who have stolen goods for 60 euros worth, even though had no previous crime on their record, got jailed four months. Killers who killed one, two, three people walk free after three years or five...

[@jasmindumalay2002]

God Knows what they've done!they will go to hell!

[@ericamercer9781]

I'm surprised he hasn't had an unfortunate accident

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

Is that in Italy?

[@deborahsunflower939]

Sounds like Barry Morphew. He was in pretrial jail tho. ...

[@titounoundici7920]

@@dr.barrycohn5461 yes, sir. (How did you guess I'm in Italy??) Btw, if the world knew how irrational and grotesque the italian justice system is, no one would believe it! Italy is a country where a thief is allowed to sue a homeowner who kicks him in the ass if busted burglaring the house. Ain't no joke.

[@adventurec1923]

Poor kiddo. Lost both mom and dad. Hope he grow up well and loved by whomever took up the role as his parents.

[@BlackorcaOZ]

I feel that the sentences for crimes against women and children are not long enough, world wide. Crimes involving money have longer sentences.

[@ericwoodlee9745]

BlackorcaOZ When they said 13 years I had to rewind it because I thought I misheard because that’s not nearly long enough. Especially when the police said they were very happy with the outcome. In many states in the US that would have been the death penalty because he planned that murder for a year so it would have been considered a first degree murder.

[@hardcoreherbivore4730]

Oh ya, how many years did those guys get that caused the 2008 economic collapse?

[@ericwoodlee9745]

Hardcore Herbivore He definitely didn’t say that every financial criminal gets punished, because that’s a completely different statement.

[@Crisfer05]

I actually think that the sentence depends on the race and socioeconomic status of the criminal and the victim, not so much on the crime.

[@ericwoodlee9745]

SJY1305 What brings you to that conclusion?

[@AMERASIAN12]

I really admire the fact that they blessed the area where Carmen's body was buried and that the officers lined up as her body was being driven away.

[@Big74Mike2012]

They "blessed" the area? What does that even mean??

[@watchmanezekiel6068]

@@Big74Mike2012 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4LHhpuEjpt3pLs

[@nancysmith2449]

Michael sss by

[@lewthrasher4194]

Yes , they went above and beyond. You can tell how many lives she touched.

[@MrStrictlykush]

I was thinking the same exact thing

[@T.Alexis926]

All of the extensive forensic work that went into solving this case to only give this jerk 13 years? THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS TRASH!!!!

[@matadk4330]

So true, in the Netherlands he would have got the same sentence, but with good behavior he would be a free man after 7 years. Thats our justice system 😠

[@jannetteberends8730]

It was the time he no possibility of parole. After that he will still be in prison, but then has the possibility to apply for parole.

[@Queen.AnneBoleyn]

Right!!! Wtf is up with that?! He should get life without parole or death.

[@coralyanis3451]

So glad we have the death penalty in US and hard sentences for crimes like this !!! No justice at all for this family!! The sentence is B.S. , unbelievable !!!! Her poor child .

[@GieCampbel-ug9jl]

I'm surprised there aren't more crimes in Australia and New Zealand knowing you can get away with it after several years. A Life for a life is what this is. But what do you expect from these people in high office to give out justice when they are nothing but Freemason bastards who serve another master.

[@sophienben-achour5450]

That is some first class detective work right there… well done 👍🏽

[@cynthiatolman326]

If I'm murdered I'd want these people to investigate. The care and remembrance that they were seeking and then found what remained of a human being shows how much they cared. To bless the burial site before they removed her is something I've never seen. Such respect for her compared to her ex partner.

[@annazaman9657]

He'd been researching murder for a year so how could it be a crime of passion as he says? Liar

[@laurelgirard8475]

anna zaman I missed that!!

[@caribstu]

Exactly. ... searches 'how to knock someone out and kill them' .. 'how to commit perfect murder" ... then claims it happened spontaniously in the heat of an arguement. Sure it did.

[@sassibrake1703]

@@caribstu Exactly!!!

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

He should have gotten First Degree.

[@ericwoodlee9745]

Liz Hjelmeseth That happened in New Zealand and they don’t have the same degrees of murder as we do in the US.

[@sickofstupidppl6969]

13 years & 7 months? That's all? Ridiculous!

[@mattkaustickomments]

sickof stupidppl I totally saw it coming. Because: UK/ Commonwealth. Their forensic science is amazing. Their sentencing guidelines are appalling. They are only slowly realizing that psychopaths cannot be ‘cured’ and must be locked up for life at the least, or executed. That sentence is a disgrace.

[@juanita9270]

European style law. Always very sympathetic to criminals.

[@CroatZg]

@@juanita9270 Bruh, arent they in Australia?

[@juanita9270]

@@CroatZg New Zealand I believe. But still European style. Exactly what we have here in Europe.

[@jennross6466]

@@CroatZg New Zealand.

[@paghspost]

I had chills because of how brilliant the investigators were👍🏻

[@Mona-qe4jt]

The system is failing big time

[@quickchris10]

@@Mona-qe4jt You mean ``divorce court?'' Yeah, totally. You don't have a jury of your peers, your life's in the hands of the judge, and your ex just slanders you all over the place and if the judge decides to believe them, you're worse than dead, tortured, punished and no benefit of the doubt. That is why these people so often resort to murder.

[@baronmeduse]

@@Mona-qe4jt Clearly it isn't.

[@Mmtm1994]

She will never see her son grow up, graduate, fall in love, get married, have children because his father extinguished his mother's life and the murderer got less than 14 years. Injustice. So glad forensic science provided enough evidence to convict her ex.

[@JaneDoe-ij4ls]

Amazing how some people just don't think.

[@LadyVoldemort]

@@sdmsdm7926 That's what he said. He said that he got angry and "suddenly" murdered her. But he obviously had planned to kill her months before he did.

[@nuevoprojecto-mujerajena1896]

Thanks for posting. Am amazed at the amount of detail the investigative team put in their investigation to solve this horrific crime.

[@sherryclark4862]

Kudos to law enforcement and forensic experts!

[@KaraLynnJack]

My God!! How do people live with the horrifically gory disgusting acts they commit against other human beings!!

[@bobjolly7795]

That's what I wonder about too....just gruesome.......Wouldn't they be haunted by what they've done almost immediately? apparently not.......it's scary to know what people are capable of....it's frightening

[@KaraLynnJack]

@@bobjolly7795 yes, it's quite frightening!

[@solochristo65]

Plus he had a great paying job. He just wanted full custody of his child...... the scary thing is if he got away with this he would have done it again.

[@ericvansteenlandt7888]

This is just a monster who looks like a human being !!

[@hibiscussunflower5916]

Is it any surprise? In the old Testament of the Bible - Judges 19: 29 When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel. (NIV)

[@emmaskylet1019]

Wonder how many ppl are murdered and actually laying in bushes or just swimming with fishes with no trace and those killers are free to live life normally

[@nurse7559]

It shocks me to my core to think about the sheer number of unidentified remains there are in just the US alone. Nobody is serving time for those murders because those ppl can't even be identified!

[@annetteyoutube742]

If no one reports you missing, then police have no knowledge to go search for that person.

[@emmaskylet1019]

*Nurse* and some of them has never been found at all every time I go out and look at ppl wonder who’s been a murder back in days n retired or just a ripest who has never reported to the authorities ,we will never know

[@emmaskylet1019]

Annette youtube true some ppl just disappear n no one care to report due to weak family ties or just been alone

[@kevinellis1232]

Plenty

[@StephanieJoRountree]

Only 13 + years in prison? He should have gotten LIFE in prison!!!

[@modemarose4497]

Stephanie Jo Rountree - it’s egregious isn’t it ??

[@gondolin12]

Unfortunately Down under they have pretty prehistoric jail times. It's not the first case that justice screwed up victims twice. First by letting those filth live and second just joking with jail times. He can get paroled after a few years. Spit in the face

[@ladymopar2024]

I would think he would have to go to the parole board and if they still think he's a menace to society will add more time to his sentence. That is my Hope anyway what a horrid man

[@toastysock]

He did.

[@realtimebiblicalinterpreta6972]

100 percent

[@leonorpanter6439]

Done watching this New Zealand videos. There was no justice in the judicial system and I was just getting sad and feeling sorry for the victims and their families.

[@gimmigota1]

Fabulous efforts by the police and forensics.

[@feliciaowens9990]

My thoughts exactly

[@lorawiese5897]

I wonder how those who are told and say nothing feel about it or even report it.

[@nellysantiago130]

Ssiiii dime

[@lisaangelos3184]

This is so sad. God bless this family through this. This man will get what’s coming to him.

[@ChopBassMan]

I really feel for the kids in crimes like this too - not only did the young boy find out that his mom was killed - but then found out that his dad killed her.

[@abuyousufgallego7516]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHKsh3qioJJopas

[@ninascarpa1460]

Thanks for spoiling it, now I don't have to watch it

[@biggestbrowneyes]

Maybe dont giveaway for those who are watching...We do know most of the cases are killed from ex husbands Thanks

[@katherinemorris3797]

@@ninascarpa1460 LOL you shouldn't read comments before watching the video!

[@marisamartin3664]

There is another child involved. Wasn't she pregnant.

[@jackiebinns6205]

13 years ?? Damn that's a slap on the wrist !! Change your laws

[@morecroutonsplease4582]

The man describes blood spots like a Bob Ross of crime

[@afellowearthling_]

i love this comment 😭

[@nic.capone.8483]

He describes it just like Dexter Morgan, from the series Dexter. He was a blood spatter analyst, and secretly a serial killer.

[@ladymopar2024]

Wow I really appreciate all the forensic work. So my granddaughter is going to school for forensic science

[@RaccoonNation]

I hope she loves her career and has a successful career also 💕

[@ruewolfe]

She picked a good career lots of heart I hope she goes far and does well 💖

[@sythiadawn]

I love this stuff. I wish I'd known this could be a career when I was younger. She's got a wonderful job to look forward to. Tell her good luck from me.

[@sharosmith]

The investigators did a great job of solving this crime, the real problem is the extremely light sentence, their justice system needs an overhaul

[@bobjolly7795]

I really enjoyed this show and actually learned some things I'd never thought of before. The fact they aren't overly dramatic like some shows in the US.....MOST shows over here is refreshing...thanks so much

[@PegLegCraig]

This show is so well done I have to say. Thank you!

[@momurphy7417]

The time these folks get over there is ridiculous. It's like a slap on the hand. Good grief

[@tross8863]

Isn't it tho 🙄 if a person wants to get practically nothing for murder, that's the place to be.

[@christinesbetterknitting4533]

The early release does make the murderer have to work for his food and try to earn a living under the cloud of rejection instead of giving him food shelter and medical care free for the rest of his life.

[@hanifaothieno1384]

There is no such thing as “perfect murder”. Life is precious. The investigators should be praised for their hard work & the passion they show in their work to get the murderer!

[@ruggieroaltiprandiferrara4994]

The perfect murder is the one which looks like an accident. There've been many

[@abuyousufgallego7516]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHKsh3qioJJopas

[@Sbamabelle]

13 years for killing a woman and her unborn child. Sell a bag of pot and get a life sentence. Justice systems around the world need overhauls

[@melaniedawn9255]

The sentence is also a tragedy. Sad. All around sad 😞

[@kelsey6556]

I feel like if I was her family, that kind of activity would inspire me to go vigilantly. ..

[@toastysock]

He got life.

[@carbine090909]

Very professional, thorough, and respectful examination. Excellent policing, impressive! If I lived there I would feel in safe hands, and would think twice before I caused any harm to someone.

[@juliaxo2872]

“We had a son together” not “we have” a classic

[@_caniche_2405]

Yes, straight from the murderer bingo card.

[@Jst4fun817]

I think he said "we have". The automatic captions also read that way. 16:10

[@melissaoyarce5203]

Amazing work Detectives!!! Poor girl.. so beautiful! 🙏🏻💔

[@kellyhiggins4234]

Poor women so beautiful hats off to the police and all involved blessings to Carmen she's home with the people that love her ! Amen 🌹

[@janie88ful]

EXTREMELY INTERESTING AND COMPLEX SCIENCE THESE GUYS KNOW. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU FOR SHARING

[@laurelgirard8475]

An amazing effort, especially since there was no body! I hope the little boy is with her family.

[@davevanvlerah5167]

I'll never understand how someone can take the life of another. I'm a large man who, I'll admit is quick to anger, but I could NEVER imagine ending another person's life. That's truly horrific. There's no injustice you could ever face that would justify taking the life of another.

[@evelynisip9459]

thats being human my dear brother, anger is normal but hate and killing somebody is inhuman at all point😭

[@ruggieroaltiprandiferrara4994]

Dave, try being DUPED into thinking a baby is yours and paying all those years for him just to find out you're luxuriously bringing up somebody else's egg. I bet you wouldn't be this elegant

[@dannybam1]

So many dissatisfied psycho freaks out there

[@catherinegrace2366]

D B that sums it up doesn’t it?

[@jomama5186]

How terribly sad. Thank God for these people who do such a tough job for the victims and their families.🙏❤

[@kirikayumura6015]

love that search history.. 'how to get away with murder', 'how to clean up blood', 'how to dismember a body'..

[@martin2560]

Going bankrupt to convict for a few years? Why bother. When there's absolutely no doubt proven. Life for a life. Death penalty.

[@ameow13]

I will never understand why people Google this type of stuff 🤦🏼‍♀️ "how to murder, how to clean up murder" .. SMH

[@n3rahill]

I learn a lot from this specific crime show. Different from other crime investigation shows I have watched.

[@AlexaCBrown]

Love to Carmen"s son, family and all her loved ones. So very sorry for each of your loss.

[@JulietHaas]

It makes me so sad for the young child who now has no parents because the adults were not able to behave like mature adults discussing the upbringing of said child. I’m even more amazed that people who kill somehow imagine they can get away with it! I’m very happy this man was caught and will be serving time; however, 13 and 7 is not nearly harsh enough for taking the life of his own child’s Mother.

[@moreofawave]

You mean ONE man was unable to control his hate and violence. She is the DEAD one.

[@FalconTypo6]

Exactly.

[@Venus-gn5oi]

The investigating team was amazing but getting 13 years in the end it's literally slap in the face for a monster!

[@melchiando]

They always say "smile lights up a room" , seems to actually apply in this case

[@jennyknepper]

I’d like to see it literally happen. Like an actual light switch.

[@JessieArmy]

13 years and 7 months? What a joke. Time to change your laws.

[@ostapbendervan7874]

Change your own first You forgot"IN AMERICA" WHAT U PEOPLE DO SO F WELL

[@devodavis6454]

@Subversive Control it's a wheelie bin everywhere but the US, get over yourself

[@michritch3493]

It is excellent to see the New Zealand team going that bit extra, digging up the cement footing at the construction site, etc. I suspect they're well funded. Comparing to some U.S. investigations where it's stated that they didn't have the funding to take up a cement floor after sonar had indicated anomalies of the correct size under the flooring, it's admirable that this group seems to have had the resources that they needed. And a certain thoughtfulness.

[@catherinegrace2366]

13 years and 7 months? How does that compute to justice? Do they give him time off for good behavior? That makes me want to cry and I’m not a “crier” because I’m thinking yes they will.

[@ter1413]

Did he say 13 years/7 months? Really?

[@juanita9270]

European style law. Always very sympathetic to criminals.

[@ter1413]

@@juanita9270 What a joke!

[@clydepiper4046]

I replayed that 3 times because I was sure it must've been 30 yrs.- really shocking : (

[@taydestiny38]

@Clyde Piper...that’s what I initially thought he said. Even then, I was like 30 years is not enough, but 13 years 7 months is a joke!

[@juanita9270]

@@ter1413 Based on the old cultural-Marxist aka modern socialist believe that all men are equally good and evil, no matter what they do. El stinko, but that´s what we are up against. Hope it doesn´t become world-rule.

[@MrStrictlykush]

Google should send the IP address to the police for anyone doing a search on how to dispose of a body and all those things that he searched for because who else would be googling those sort of things if not a person intending to commit a murder

[@r.deeblanche6939]

That was really well done.

[@elisevautour6292]

Citizens of New Zealand really need to speak up to how their government invokes their laws.... Particularily their justice system. Premeditated murder. Evidence tampering. Involving others to rid the body. 13 years and seven months???? I just don't understand it. Blessings of Love sent to this woman's family. To all involved in this case I say Bravo. Forensics are top notch. The Police Force relentless. Cheers! 🇨🇦🙏💜

[@schelliegris7481]

It is LIFE, without possibility of parole for 13 years 7 months. Still crap.

[@holliebooth7903]

I'm so blown away that they're able to pursue a case based largely on their "gut instinct". In the US it's almost as if they avoid investigation altogether. So many victims fall through the legal loopholes. It's heartwarming that they were able to investigate further because someone recognized something was wrong. I want to hug this department for pursuing this young woman's disappearance. Kudos! ❤

[@ruggieroaltiprandiferrara4994]

Maybe they were her clients so they were sorry she was killed

[@nancyjames2576]

That’s selfish to take a parent away from the little boy

[@a.l.7712]

Her life was only worth 13 Years and 7 months. What a shame!

[@levanthasis]

- Impressive lab-work from forensic investigators. Particularly in recovering the removed serial number of the bin. - Also by handwriting-specialist. So many details, so much minute information to be found and the psychology involved regarding potential suspect's mentality. Highly advanced investigation. It means harder days for the perpetrators of homicides. Good series - Thank You for posting.

[@cindincanton3693]

13 years is the maximum for this hideous crime???

[@margaretlee-reed814]

Such good investigation. Why are some police departments so lacking? Who decides which cases are investigated vs which cases are ignored? A detective or higher rank? Cases can actually be solved when: A) someone tries and B) someone has training to learn how. And, not one or the other. Both are needed.

[@72thecitadel61]

EXCELLENT police work...the forensic crews were extraordinary! Kudos to all!

[@pennysue8849]

I'm always so impressed with the detective work and the forensic work that goes into solving these horrible crimes in the UK around England especially, just top notch very smart,professional and compassionate, very air tight cases ...but then it comes time for trial and for whatever crazy thinking or reason the murderers rarely ever get much more than 10 to 15 years ! If I were a detective there I would be furious, something really needs to be done to get some sort of justice for victims forever gone and the families who loved them shattered forever I don't believe for a second this was a crime of passion or in the heat of the moment, he was researching for a year ! Per meditation blatantly obvious

[@MashaRistova]

This was in New Zealand not England or the UK …

[@pennysue8849]

@@MashaRistova yes your right ! Thanks for clearing that up .have a great day

[@MetteC5]

Yes, UK detectives are good, but... this happened in New Zealand ;)

[@pennysue8849]

@@MetteC5 thank you, then New Zealand also needs help. A overhaul of the criminal justice system

[@MetteC5]

@@pennysue8849 An overhaul of criminal justice systems is needed, not only in NZ but in all countries: prison sentences, which studies show don't prevent crime the slightest, are very expensive for the community - which is ending up literally paying for the crimes.. So incarceration is painfully counterproductive and outdated: humankind needs to figure out how to deal with crimes in a way that deters and punishes criminals, heals the immediate surroundings of the victim and the wounded community at large, and rewards investigators. If you have any ideas, I'm sure that criminologists will be happy to hear them: the issue has been debated for decades, without success.

[@LIBERTYSINCURSION]

Wait, he said his sentence was a non-parole period of 13 years and 7 months, and he was somehow SATISFIED with that bullshit sentence? A friend of mine got 8 to 20 years for beating some asshole up at a bar. 8 to 20yrs, for a Man to Man consensual fist fight in the parking lot of a bar and this piece of shit get's 13yrs for murdering the Mother of his child? Well, that certainly doesn't look like "justice" to me.

[@brendacampbell7797]

The premeditated lengths the unsub went to execute this murder is mind boggling 🤯! I’m thoroughly impressed with the police forensic techniques but the speed that this was processed is phenomenal! I am gobsmacked at the sentencing , until I realized it was “a non-parol period of 13 yrs and 7 months” that DOESN’T MEAN this demented deviant ONLY gets 13 years, IT MEANS he can’t go for parole UNTIL 13 years and 7 months has passed, THEN he can solicit parole but that doesn’t guarantee him parole. I’m sure Carmens family will be at the first “hearing’ this degenerate gets ! For the SOLE PURPOSE, in reminding the panel the horrendously horrific, savage injustice this beautiful women endured! I know if she were in my family....I'd be this guys own personal 'Karma' at every parole hearing. ! The program is VERY INTERESTING ! I’m going to subscribe ! Well done! 👍

[@abuyousufgallego7516]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHKsh3qioJJopas

[@aletaimmonen1371]

Thank you.

[@gabalot10]

The Police were marvelous. Very Respectful.

[@ao6284]

Who else thought of Dexter when blood analysts were talking?

[@renatawarec]

Absolutely

[@ananimity7332]

Me!

[@ChopBassMan]

I am always amazed at people doing Google searches like "how to knock out and kill someone". You would think that anyone doing these things would not be doing them on their own computers

[@jobagirl]

13years and 7 months for planning and killing someone intentionally? Omg

[@burntsider8457]

Another well-done documentary. Good to see traditional journalism is still practiced by some.

[@kirikayumura6015]

every time they said 'wheelie bin' it felt like they should be talking about a child's toy.. made me giggle in a serious story.

[@DuranMK2]

27:02 I always feel bad for laughing while watching any sort of true crime vids, but "dance of the wheelie bins" really got me. For some reason, it made me think of Dances With Wolves, but with all the characters replaced by wheelie bins dressed up in costumes, with the lids flapping open and shut to emulate speaking. Sounds like something bored college students would make and put on KZbin.

[@fthomason93]

"She's allowed to have her own blood on her own clothes" I don't know why but that line made chuckle

[@AJ-ri5ee]

Oi! Do you ave a permit for that blood mate?

[@A6Legit]

@@AJ-ri5ee can't even bleed your own blood anymore

[@rmooreg]

A non-parole period of 13 years? Hardly worth the effort of concealing the crime at all! If he'd just turned himself in at the beginning he would have probably only done 5 to 7 years. The sentences given in the U.K. are ludicrously lenient.

[@flaviarenevey6719]

And I'm lenient towards you for not knowing that Auckland is NOT in the U.K's.

[@rmooreg]

@@flaviarenevey6719 You are indeed correct. However, it is fair to say that since being under Brittish control until the mid 19rh century, they are likely to be heavily influenced by Brittish lawmaking and criminal justice system. But my point regarding lenient sentencing still stands, if this case is any indication. Thanks for your being lenient with me, I didn't mean to question Aukland's autonomy.

[@flaviarenevey6719]

@@rmooreg I think strongest send off means life sentence. But I'm not sure.

[@rmooreg]

@@flaviarenevey6719 Yes, it is life with no parole for at least 13 years. Which means that, depending on his age, he will almost certainly be paroled at some point. If not in 13 years, then possibly 15,18 or 20 years. If he is 30 years old currently, that puts him back on the streets at age 50 or less. Still young enough to have and act on his nasty urges and appetites. Just that possibility is unacceptable. Just my opinion of course. The risk is simply too great to all the women who would be within his target range.

[@giuseppenero110]

Cop was very satisfied with the sentence..I was expecting life without parole, but no...13yrs and 7mths. Sick justice for the family and all of society

[@schelliegris7481]

It actually life with no parole for 13 years 7 months. Still awful, though.

[@jorgeferreiro9783]

13 years for murder is a joke

[@maramiro80]

So the friend knew that he murdered his girlfriend and wants to dispose her remains, then he told him he doesn't want to be apart of this and went home peacefully?!! he should have got some time for hiding information, specially they were looking for her as a missing person.. his friend is just as bad as he is..

[@hibiscussunflower5916]

The friend would have agreed to give information only under immunity.

[@mamarha2011]

What a complete utter POS! The lengths he went to, to not only commit the murder, but to conceal it warrants the death penalty at best. At least, life in prison. The outcome is disgusting.

[@moreiscomingeasy6710]

Wow!I fill for all the people involved in this sad story. As the commander said they took no pleasure in finding her died, but at least the justice was served

[@valsmith2156]

Great investigation

[@complication100]

Can we normalize Google giving dumb results whenever someone googles how to do suspicious sht?...

[@A6Legit]

What for? Its all recorded anyway

[@danielkeirsteadsr6939]

13 yrs 7 months for murdering the mother of his young son. Should be life / no parole

[@Kkayoodle]

Like how this show was done. Especially liked the decency of the one investigator that didn't even want to say out loud that she was a sex worker cause in his mind it didn't matter, she was a human being.

[@wizzardofpaws2420]

Thank you for the good quality.

[@900108Chale]

*Google:* The best and most common mute Witness for the State nowadays.

[@HyperSarcasticAvocado]

The bad guy didn't even stand a chance of getting away with it

[@teallaidh]

13 years are u kidding me

[@jenniferlawrence9473]

Yes, we don't make a living imprisoning people here like they do in the U.s.

[@A6Legit]

@@jenniferlawrence9473 When it comes to murder its a different story.... 13yrs for murder, Thats not justice.

[@donnaengel6413]

Why would anyone even entertain the idea that this murder was anything other than premeditated murder!!

[@jamesl9371]

This happened in Auckland , New Zealand

[@ivangeorgiev4774]

36:17 - for a moment there I thought that was the Alien silhouette staring back to the officer.

[@vaeosama880]

Did they say 13 years???? I mean that’s a slap on the wrist as well an insult to the family geesh!!!! He researched committing murder a year prior (failed miserably) & all his actions after that says this was premeditated 🤦🏾‍♀️ #ThanksForAGoodUpload 🙏🏾

[@robertapreston4200]

Good work...... 💯.... So sad for her and her family🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😭😥😢

[@corneliawissing7950]

Excellent police work!

[@rosabetances6098]

I have never seen this good of a detective work in my who life as a true crime junkie.

[@beatriceloss6333]

So so sad what a gruesome killing 😕

[@lewthrasher4194]

Something that is sad is the police do so much leg work to put a case together to get a perpetrator sent to jail . It appears that this happens all around the world. The perpetrator in many cases don't do much time for such a horrific crime. Killing her wasn't enough. The gross actions against a corpse is disgusting. He should never walk free again. Nobody in his presence or associated with him is puting their life at risk.