Imposing Your Views, Hosts Slander Believers | Brandon | The Atheist Experience 575

[@geraldodonnell2595]

"It's called faith because it's not knowledge." - Christopher Hitchens

[@richardgrayson3241]

Brilliant. Hitchens' mind is missed these days when Knowledge is under attack from the Believers once again.

[@MooseMaunu]

It's a big red flag when someone says "I'm a lover of intelligent conversation." What usually follows is neither intelligent nor a conversation. Conversation to someone like this means I preach, you listen.

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

He thinks HE'S intelligent, and he will direct the conversation.

[@knivesron]

that is very well said and very relevant for me at the moment. also in some way could be somthing i could reflect on myself aswell.

[@tonyt4395]

You stole the words right out of my mind. I live in the "hood" and the lazy logic that I deal with concerning religion is enormous. My mom tried to indoctrinate me as a preteen years ago. Unfortunately, for her I had been exposed to the set of encyclopedia Britannica's she had purchased for our household. Her teachings along with the church never took root.

[@YourRealDaddy]

@@tonyt4395 you raise a good point I never thought of. I used to have a set of Encyclopedia Brittanica as well and it made me resistant to indoctrination as well. Perhaps that's why they're not around anymore.

[@tonyt4395]

@@YourRealDaddy I think google made them obsolete. Those Brittanica's once printed are old news.

[@SPL0869]

Am I the only one that found it weird that the “written on your heart”, “no excuse” guy, needed a Damascus road reveal before he believed in Jesus?

[@unturbe]

Nope, you’re not the only one!

[@tornaperinso1484]

It was in aramaic and he needed the "translator for travelers" upgrade.

[@soonerarrow]

No, not at all. Once Jesus followers came to grips with his death, they figured out the 2nd Coming wasn't going to happen. Since they had shed all their worldly possessions, a new follower with fast cash written on his heart, the literary Damascus pedestrian is a natural progression character. _"Do away with the law! Just have faith and worship Jesus and your soul will be saved!"_ Amazingly, new churches outside of Judea arise who are gathering tithes and the Damascus pedestrian is writing letters to these and requesting cold, hard currency from those flocks. The poor Jerusalem leaders are aghast at this change but once the money flows, the gentiles with no law fulfillment are slowly adopted as okay. And that's how we now have Joel Osteen, the Copeland's and all the other prosperity or seed/faith evangelists.

[@hegyak]

"I want to push MY Magic Sky Daddy Cult. How dare you challenge MY Magic Sky Daddy Cult Feelies!"

[@ajfet8165]

Exactly. My dad says in Africa (and other counties kids obviously but he’s just ignorant) kids are hungry and dying cuz they are “cursed” 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️😤😤😤😤😤

[@dylanjones268]

@@ajfet8165 That's truly upsetting.. he's basically washing his hands of others and blaming them for having to live that life.

[@cy-one]

@@dylanjones268 The fun thing is, if you'd push him far enough and ask _why_ they're cursed, I'm pretty sure we'd get Angela Fetcher's dad to some good old victim blaming.

[@DocBree13]

@@ajfet8165 wow… :(

[@wayofthekodiak3118]

Yeah but y'all are ok with Matt getting his vagina in a bunch because of his fee fees. His fee fees and yours also determine what your reality is. Which is quite wacky on it's own. So both sides ignore reality.

[@ldgxc1886]

Oh gosh! "Look at the beauty of the zebra and its stripes ", look at the beauty of hyenas ripping the zebra's intestines and starting to eat its guts while still alive...this guy is more full of tish than most other credulous I've listened to.

[@xenophanes1598]

AMEN! (pun intended) If there's a god... S/He's a sadist with a fetish for suffering! Humanity and nature "a world of strife and conflict and violence - 'red in tooth and claw'" (Tennyson), infantile bone cancer, a father rapes his baby to death, pandemics... Oh, but a loving god watches over us all... ROFL!!!

[@TheSnoeedog]

you sound like someone who enjoyed the same tshirt that I did as a teenager: *Guns don't kill people* *It's the bullets smashing through* *their vital organs that kill people*

[@qwadratix]

Telling the truth isn't slander.

[@jlastre]

Also, if you're going to use a legal definition , neither is opinion. Matt often gives opinion, backed up by logic and argument. He might have the opinion that his morals are better than a Christian's. Whether or not someone agrees, it's still an opinion and not "defamation".

[@trishayamada807]

Depends on what you mean by truth. Like if do you mean Biblical truth, cuz that ain’t truth. That’s stories.

[@mattsullins3818]

It always boils down to the “look at the trees” argument

[@trehcrap]

If humans come from apes what do trees come from?

[@trehcrap]

@B W I thought maybe you would have a quick answer so i would not need to do a lot of research. i do not believe everything on the internet. That is really cute how you respond to me as if i were a child, but it really does not do a lot for me.

[@trehcrap]

@@ookeekthelibrarian Thank you for the reference.

[@cy-one]

@@trehcrap Trees came from other plants after roots became a thing roughly 350 million years ago. If ya wanna know it more precisely, ya might wanna talk to a evolutionary biologist specializing in plant evolution.

[@trehcrap]

@@cy-one Thanks for the decent reply. it would not change my mind . We could go into your root theory but it would end up going no where. Matter from nothing and life from that matter from nothing will never be something I will bite on. I do not think you would need to be a Christian for that to make sense.

[@petermartell748]

questioning the beliefs of others is not slander. Preaching falsehoods is propaganda.

[@TMPreRaff]

Not all "falsehoods" are propaganda, and propaganda doesn't require lies.

[@petermartell748]

@@TMPreRaff please read again. "Preaching falsehoods is propaganda". You did not respond to my statement but rather set a 'strawman'. Propaganda is always a biased disclosure and often includes falsehoods.

[@rekunta]

They’re not falsehoods if you believe it. 😉

[@geezzerboy]

Preaching falsehoods is called lying.

[@petermartell748]

@@geezzerboy it is true that preaching falsehoods is a lie. it is also true that lying to further a position is using propaganda Both are true

[@jaymorgan8013]

"Everybody knows when they do wrong" That's not correct.

[@johnd.shultz7423]

Especially wacked out x-tian faith healers filling their pockets with followers cash...

[@chilly111]

Confidence and ignorance go hand in hand.

[@Steveman27]

@@johnd.shultz7423 Their followers are the same as them. They too realize the value of doing financially well for oneself. This is how it is with Christians, with atheists, with agnostics, with deists, and many others.

[@fyimediaworld]

Caller complains about being characterized like a mindless robot while behaving as a mindless robot. Predictable.

[@johnd.shultz7423]

Simply Well Put!!!

[@spookyactionatadistance1316]

Be kind. He sounds like a victim

[@FourDeuce01]

Matt: “Except I’m not going around persecuting christians. I’m trying to get them to stop persecuting everyone else.” To christians, that IS persecuting them.😂

[@sparki9085]

Brandon. You chose to watch the sow, the hosts didnt force you to watch

[@FourDeuce01]

Brandon says he loves intelligent conversation, then shows he doesn't. :/ Many of us have noticed theists ARE much like the Borg on Star Trek.

[@hegyak]

The Borg had Seven of Nine or whatever her name was. Who's hot Christian? No one.

[@ajclements4627]

@@hegyak Betty Page converted in 1959, and she was attractive as hell lol.

[@unknownx7252]

@@hegyak Jerry Ryan is so sexy, that's why I watch lol.

[@david2869]

"Every tongue will confess, every knee will bow" = you will be assimilated.

[@unknownx7252]

We are the church, lower your doubt and fears, your culture will adapt to service the church.

[@Columbiastargazer]

and still ZERO evidence for a magical invisible sky daddy

[@Ploskkky]

Caller is a good example of brainwashing, and how morality goes to hell when christianity gets its cancerous claws in it.

[@ronthered138]

"I have a relationship with Jesus". Yeah, a god wants to talk to me. There is a streak of delusional narcissism in the religious that defies explanation.

[@silverwing4153]

Dude dodging confronting hard questions like a ninja.

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

Dude thinks he's smart, and thinks he's presenting a convincing argument... He's got nothing, and he's a slow learner

[@seawolf7649]

Like a gimpy ninja.

[@SPL0869]

I’m about 75% sure that Brandon is the, “why don’t we die when the sun goes down” guy,

[@thefourgrapples2810]

I think so also.

[@ringo666]

No, that guy was older, and could barely put a sentence together. And he had a different accent.

[@DocBree13]

Oh, man, I forgot about that!

[@JarlGrimmToys]

Didn’t he also ask if we have electricity in our bodies, why don’t we get electrocuted in the shower lol.

[@SPL0869]

@@JarlGrimmToys that was classic!

[@mrdrone4253]

Look at that worm that burrows into a child's eyes to procreate. Isn't that an amazing creation of his God?

[@justsomeguy8385]

Well obviously the devil made that one. God only made the flowers and the birds.

[@jaysonbeaulieu9653]

Many kinds of birds in pairs of two . Including teradacytls.

[@Steveman27]

@@justsomeguy8385 Maybe you're wrong. Maybe the devil made some great things, since you believe he has created stuff as well, and hey, maybe God has created some fucked up, horrible stuff. You don't know. Maybe you're wrong. You just don't know.

[@damianwhite504]

or that beautiful tsnami that kills 100, 000

[@raulquigley4672]

This caller said that everybody, black and white, was outraged about OJ Simpson's acquittal. He clearly doesn't remember that day accurately.

[@denverarnold6210]

It's telling when he was asked for an example of these godly intervention, he hesitated.

[@IIARROWS]

It was going so great until "Look at the trees" 20 minutes later.

[@ajfet8165]

Mormons who come to my door always say look at the trees when I ask them where their lordy is lol

[@cy-one]

@@ookeekthelibrarian Better, she should put a comic sticker of Jaweh onto one of her trees :D

[@IIARROWS]

@@ajfet8165 Do you mean that their God in the trees is a metaphor for being the fruit of their imagination?

[@mrhdbnger]

@@ookeekthelibrarian That comment is awesome. You win the interwebs today. :-) We had Mormons living downstairs from us. They were very nice kids and good neighbors. Something about our appearance (I look like a burnt out old rockstar because I am and wife is a bit goth), kissing our respective boyfriends and girlfriends goodbye in the parking lot and maybe my driving a hearse seemed to make them think we were a lost cause so they never once brought up their god bothering shit with us. Whatever works.

[@johnsperry9494]

“Religious apologists complain bitterly that Atheists and Secularists are aggressive and hostile in their criticism of them. I always say: look, when you guys were in charge, you didn’t argue with us, you just burnt us at the stake. Now what we’re doing is, we’re presenting you with some arguments and some challenging questions, and you complain.” - A.C. Grayling

[@chriskelly3481]

Poor Brandon. Really struggling with indoctrination here.

[@ajfet8165]

My sister says I’m oppressing her and discriminating against her, because I told her and her fiancé to stop preaching to me about how I’m a sinner cuz I don’t wanna get married and cuz I have sex and I’m bi…. She’s like you have no right to tell us not to “tell you the truth” 🙄😤😑

[@trehcrap]

Yes we are to point out sin when we witness it.

[@trehcrap]

@Fay Spahmer Jesus died for stupid people like myself and also condescending smart folk like yourself.

[@ajclements4627]

@@trehcrap So, can you provide evidence that this Jesus guy died and was resurrected “for our sin”? Hint: Without using the Bible, or babbling about your fee fees or what some guy in a suit says every weekend.

[@jawamedia1529]

Depending on everything else in your home life, it might be better to move out if you still live there, and if you don't cut contact until they treat you with respect

[@trehcrap]

@@ajclements4627 No I can't. By your cute little hint and the use of the term "fee fees" I would venture a guess that you are a Junior High girl, and I will continue you this conversation with you when you mature.

[@friendo6257]

Brandon was born a rambling maaaaaaaaan

[@damianwhite504]

yayuh

[@petermeichan3160]

Brandon does a great impression of how christians accept and don't question the book just like a programmed robot, good job B

[@Georg3e]

Good ole days...

[@osc3892]

Im not sure why since I no longer have a horse in the race, but the argument "you weren't a true christian" Just angers me. It's so fu cking lazy

[@Omerta_1964]

Yeah i agree who the fuck does the caller think he is to know/decide who is and who is not a "true christian" when there are over 1000 versions in the first place!

[@rossington1680]

Matt’s eyes when he goes into the look at the trees nonsense😁

[@csnowutube]

Saying we should respect others, then saying their position is idiotic does not seem respectful.

[@mrhdbnger]

I was checking to see if someone had beat me to it and you did. I'm sure I am not the only one who bristles hard at being told my world view is idiotic by a grown person with an imaginary friend. I understand that there are intelligent people who believe in God and one or two of them have called in to this show. This caller ain't one of them and if you are reading these comments Brandon, bite me. You are in no position to find anyone else's views idiotic. To do that you have to provide a clever view and, with all due respect, "look at the zebras" would only appear clever to 6 year old kids in Sunday School.

[@darrenscazafavo27]

I Cannot Believe People Think This Fairy Tale Can Possibly Be True It Blows My Mind !!!

[@ajclements4627]

@@trehcrap No one cares about your fee fees and ancient papyrus scribblings.

[@trehcrap]

@@ookeekthelibrarian Thanks for your concern about my mental health, but I will be just fine

[@trehcrap]

@@ookeekthelibrarian Here is a bit of sanity. I am done casting my pearls before swine, Enjoy what you have left of this life. Your eternity looks bleak at this point.

[@gregorykelly8000]

How do you know its not?

[@trehcrap]

@@gregorykelly8000 Mr. Kelly could you be more specific?

[@XRamenmaX]

I miss Martin, I liked the way he done and argued. I've discovered after watching some of the older episodes, I prefer the older crews style over some of the new members style.

[@joshuaspector8182]

Respect is never unconditional. I don’t think

[@ShermThursby]

Hello. You do think. And, your thought is justifiable. I think.

[@bme7491]

Respect for a person needs to be earned.

[@cy-one]

Christians: Respect me unconditionally! Also Christians: Jesus' love is unconditional. Jesus: *burns people for eternity for not wanting to @ him on social media*

[@johnd.shultz7423]

Caller resents that x-tians like himself, whose minds are fully conditioned by an immoral book of rigid formulations are thought of as conditioned ,instead of trying to find out basic truths in Life through his own ability to discover them, he lets a 2000 year old book decide for him,which IS a robotic approuch to Living..

[@godlessolddude305]

I've never been able to understand eternal punishment for finite crimes.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

That's because it's not understandable. Particularly when you throw in the idea that god knew what was going to happen from all of eternity

[@QuoVadid]

Brandon, just get to the damned point! I'm growing old here.

[@marinagarza1803]

Most of these callers never do!

[@fitzmagic1]

How did no one in the conversation see that he confirmed the point he tried to challenge? He called to say Christians aren't robots and don't have a "I have to believe mentality" then when asked about hell he said "I have to believe that because the Bible says"

[@yarnpower]

Preaching a message and enacting laws that impose their religious ideas are very different!

[@AMore429]

So painful to hear. The ignorance runs deep.

[@fitzmagic1]

"Christians arnt robots!" "Based on the Bible id have to say yes"

[@thomasowens5824]

Absurdity of faith never fails to entertain and disappoint all at the same time.

[@otiswilson2696]

Part of me knew he was going to go to the birds and trees!🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@steveyuhas9278]

Caller: "I wanna be respectful" Also caller: "I think it's idiotic to think what you think" Yes, the real idiotic position is not taking the position that is all magic.

[@AnnaP-uh3mc]

I can’t deal with anyone telling me they are being respectful of me while at the same time telling me I deserve to burn in a fiery pit for all eternity.

[@trekkiejunk]

I never saw "creation" in nature. When i look at nature, it looks un-designed in about every way. And what i know about the age of the universe, the billions of years of failed life on Earth, the incredibly narrow parameters required to even have life as we know it, all the vast emptiness, all makes a lot more sense without a creator. If i took all that knowledge, and added in a creator, i would have WAY more questions, and everything would make a lot LESS sense.

[@TheSnoeedog]

When I look at all the stupefying majesty that surrounds me, when I evaluate my day-to-day experiences and take in all the wonderful magic that fills my life, I feel absolutely no need to invent a fairy tale, or some Oz-behind-the-curtain to hand-wave away my ignorance and the failures of my imagination. The world, the privilege we enjoy, taking part in it as conscious agents, is *more than sufficient* at arousing a sense of awe and amazement not just for those things we don't understand, but for the very fact that we understand any at all....and I certainly don't feel the need to invite some moral/spiritual superstructure to complicate my life in an attempt to feel "humbled before god." I'm *fully* aware of how insignificant I am without any help, thanks! Ditto the idea that man is imperfect/sinful ....all I have to do is look around...I really don't understand what need is filled by religion/theistic belief systems.... live well

[@geezzerboy]

Brandon doesn't respect anyone, including himself. He's spent his life repeating lies told to him by people just like him. He makes my skin crawl.

[@SadisticSenpai61]

I did like the bit where he claims "I've been a Christian for 4 years" and then admitted that he grew up in the church. Dude, come on. He had a religious experience 4 years ago that led him to devoting (rededicating) his life to Christianity, but I bet he would have called himself a Christian the entire time. Usually that kind of religious experience involves changing denominations too - which is also part of why they will often pretend they were Christian before. My grandparents did the same song and dance. They grew up Methodist in the 30s and 40s. Then in the 50s, they had religious experiences and moved to being Baptists. They swear up and down that they were saved as adults and that's when they became Christians. And I know that's what they really think and believe, but anyone looking at it from the outside is gonna hit x to doubt. It's especially true for ppl that end up in denominations that are exclusionary like the Baptist group my grandparents all ended up in - they legit believe that most Christians aren't really Christians. They're not evangelicals, but rather a sort of pre-evangelical fundamentalist that gets along really well with evangelicals but are not quite as... political. In a way, I'm rather glad that if my grandparents were to end up in a specific exclusionary group, it was the GARBC (General Association of Regular Baptist Churches) that they ended up in. There's a lot of really toxic stuff in the later fundamentalist/evangelical denominations that I'm so glad I wasn't subjected to growing up. Not that I don't have my own set of anxiety issues that I'm fairly certain trace back to my religious upbringing, but I never had the same kind of deep self-loathing and sheer hatred for LGBTQIA+ ppl that the newer denominations cultivate in their followers.

[@robertt9342]

Brandon demonstrates at 22:01, his point about “Respect” and that there I only respect when when you believe the same thing that he does.

[@Rhodair]

seriously, the only annoying thing about this caller is how much he keeps apologizing wtf >_

[@ChannelMath]

"everybody is zealous for something" is just clearly false, and I'm surprised the hosts didn't push back. Ever met a depressed person?

[@TallSilentGuy]

8:45 is the exact moment I would have said "Fuck off" and hung up.

[@ishmaelkelly951]

As soon as he started the conversation off with I love intelligent conversation you know there's going not to be and intelligent conversation.

[@marinagarza1803]

The minute the caller is posed with the idea that his beliefs could be wrong, his arrogance shows up to claim that Matt and Martin are idiotic to assume there is not a creator. Theists have to be arrogant to believe something full heartedly that cannot be proven.

[@ronaldbaxter5499]

Look at the creation of zebra... LOL none of them have the same stripes. Bruh... humans don’t have the same fingerprints either. That does NOT prove god

[@CrazyTasteyPi]

"We can do things no other animal can do" uuuhhh that's actually not true. Plenty of ape species have shown the capability to communicate in ways that we can, primarily sign language. Sure we have to teach it to them, but the fact they can learn and use it once taught is pretty telling. On top of that, the one thing many people say distinguishes us from animals... I.E. the crafting and use of tools and weapons, has also been shown to be untrue. Again, lots of ape species have figured out how to use objects around them as crude tools or weapons to aid them in their day to day. If that wasn't good enough.... also consider that the Bolas Spider also exists. Like the name suggests, it's a spider that got its name because it actually uses it's own silk to craft throwing weapons (generally in the form of a bolas) for the purpose of catching its prey. On top of that, spiders in general have shown to have at least a rudimentary understanding of physics. You ever notice when there are pine cones or leaves hanging off a thread of spider silk? That's not a coincidence. That's a spider actually using what qualifies as a heavy object for itself, as a counter weight for keeping it's web stable when it doesn't have enough points to anchor its webbing to. I've actually watched spiders do this while they build their web, and it's actually really fascinating to see.

[@trishayamada807]

Exactly. There are ants that farm!

[@mrhdbnger]

No other animal can deploy tools that would blow the planet to smithereens several times over so yay for the fancy monkeys. If we are the end goal for creation that creator has a piss poor imagination and a completely hamfisted way of going about getting us here because we appear to be hairless apes who evolved here. On top of that, if it's the Bible God, his only need for us is that a few of us will get pulled into Heaven to spend eternity praising him. It seems to me an imaginative creator could have skipped all of this pain and misery and just popped a few sychophants right into Heaven from the start. "Behold, you exist. Now sing my praises without end because, well, reasons."

[@CrazyTasteyPi]

@@mrhdbnger did.... did you even read my post?

[@peterriverajr6899]

My dog can do somethings I cant do. Like lick her own privates, I cant do that believe me I've tried. As soon as we can figure out how to do that ill never leave home

[@CrazyTasteyPi]

@@peterriverajr6899 that's..... true.... but I don't think that qualifies as something that sets us apart from other animals in a.... practically meaningful way. Thanks for sharing though. XD

[@debrogers79]

What a fantastic discussion.

[@russellh9894]

The caller originally said the hosts erroneously make theists appear as if they are following programming like they are borg in star trek. Then at 8:31, he blindly follows the teachings of his religion without thinking for himself to say Matt is going to hell and deserves it. Sounds like borg programming to me.

[@SlideRulePirate]

Objecting to the 'push back' while obliviously accepting of the 'push'.

[@kathyheitchue2022]

MAN is the pinnacle not WOMAN

[@Moz29]

This guy clearly just believes in God because he got a positive court case for a crime he committed.

[@callmeflexplays]

"I would have to say yes" is that person's doubt creeping in but instead of listening to their conscience they double down and hope to shirk their responsibility for what they're saying by suggesting that they're just saying what's true regardless of how they feel about it. They know it's a fucked up thing they're saying. This is why they're called Christian Apologists - they literally have to apologize for what they think and say because it flies in the face of what's moral or just, even to the apologist.

[@evolutionaryadvantage]

Imagine building your entire life on an imaginary friend. An intangible friend. It’s quite perplexing to me. It’s almost sad . Actually it is sad. How many great minds have we lost to religion?

[@edwardgatey8301]

Islam.

[@YeOldeSpellbooke]

I miss Martin on the show.

[@nicolasbadenhorst9531]

Respect is not conditional.. Respect is earned!!

[@topcat2069]

"Everybody Want's to Rule the World" Tears For Fears

[@chrism6315]

A very pleasant man who says some terrifying things because his mind has been warped by lies. Frightening.

[@jimengle1615]

No lack of ignorance goes unchecked in this world.

[@jonrendell]

I love this one.

[@CrummyJoker]

My left ear really enjoyed that

[@garyverstick1620]

He should look up the meaning of ‘slanderous’ - it involves false statements. Where have the hosts made false statements? None.

[@mbm3155]

I like how they say they’ll continue to talk about him. It’s a bit unfair when he’s off air but hopefully he can pick up where they leave off later and I swear I’ve heard this guys voice a crap load on here and I enjoy the conversations that he has on here cause it doesn’t break down into a shouting match despite what the conversation is about and I’m a lover of conversation.

[@ICEDMX1]

People like that caller bother the hell out of me. He'd be of no help in a dire situation. He needs to ramble his ass off into the sunset.

[@DocBree13]

His philosophy that nothing happens unless god wills it, means that by definition, all of his prayers are answered either yes, no or not right now - none of his prayers can be ever heard said to have gone unanswered no matter the outcome. That’s a neat little trick.

[@LPCLASSICAL]

This is why guys - when a Christian comes on wanting to talk about this or that - you should cut them through all the bullshit and just ask why they believe. You had to listen to all that crap about slandering Christians and at 21 minutes - its the birds and the trees. You should make that a precondition of talking about anything else.

[@jazzfree1541]

and at 21 minutes - its the birds and the trees. Good point - it would have helped avoid the blah blah blah waffling to get there too.

[@sonja4164]

This is excellent. Thanks for posting this clip guys!

[@johnm24358]

It always cracks me up when theists say they have a relationship with their magical sky daddy.... That is like me saying I have a relationship with Harry Potter......Nutty....

[@ChannelMath]

Isn't it weird that so many callers claim to have been atheists up until recently, but also admit to being raised in the same church that they have recently come to believe in?

[@Sir-Complains-a-Lot]

17:01 cant take it anymore. makes my brain hurt.

[@zhontac6194]

Martin always makes me smile.

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

When I was a kid and going to Catholic church (still Christian but long past being Catholic) I remember the droning monotone every single sunday "we believe in one God the father almighty...." and yeah that borg analogy rings familiar.

[@alecspyrou2134]

He protests being called a Borg too loudly me thinks.

[@AlexanderNash]

"I am a rational thinker" Well there's the problem. The caller has labeled himself as a "rational thinker" therefore anything he thinks must in fact be rational. Rational thinking is an action not an identity.

[@alicelaybourne1620]

I saw Matt's eyes widen, ready to pounce like a Puma when the caller said the Bible was "unadulterated truth"...

[@galaxylinds]

This is gold.

[@Georg3e]

👁👄👁

[@petermeichan3160]

its not slander if its not true in the first place

[@willievanstraaten1960]

If I look at the creativity of developers, inventors and scientists it proves that there is no God, or he is supid.

[@snuffyballparks6501]

If you make an ascertain... follow it up with direct evidence.

[@FatalCroissant]

I love how the caller brings up how one side can be perceived as the Borg from Star Trek 05:33 and then this happens... 30:22

[@krisaaron5771]

One of the biggest issues that turned me off to Christianity is the blatant manipulation done to attract believers. The carefully selected music, timed to enhance pleas for donations and bring more "lost sheep" into the fold. The overwrought, theatrical emotion-fests by professional preachers in $200 haircuts and $5,000 bespoke suits, complete with tears and manufactured "rage" as they rant against supposed sin. The obscene wealth of people like Joel O'Steen, Creflo Dollar, Franklin Graham, Kenneth Copeland and Paula White. Their palatial churches. Their gift shops. Their private planes. Their "us against them" attitudes and preaching that divides more than it unites. Their involvement in politics. Their opposition to any group that the church's software gurus determine is disliked by influential members. Their obsession with irrational biblical teachings and their rock-hard determination to ignore the inconvenient parts of the bible (Exodus, Chapter 20 is a good example). And how obvious it is that the "word of god" is nothing more than the words of men intent on manipulating their followers while avoiding the obligation to provide evidence that such a being even exists! Incredible claims demand incredible evidence. A skilled verbose pastor can avoid the demand to provide such evidence while dazzling believers with cleverly crafted bullshit. God is far too much like those who believe in him. Religion, improperly used, brings out the worst in people.

[@ronyrontana9735]

Wouldn't it have been better for Jesus to LIVE for people's sins?

[@NotAPacifist825]

I'm in a relationship with Jesus. Just like any one else's relationship with their girlfriend, that you'll never meet because she goes to a different school and lives really far away...

[@robr2346]

I know this is an old clip, but I watched it through for the first time. The caller starts off the call criticizing Matt for broad brushing questions as these robots, then the collar epitomizes a Christian robot with all the bad reasons for believing and all the discussion on faith

[@bazpearce9993]

If we are the cherry on God's cake. I guess he lost it somewhere.

[@johnsperry9494]

Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

[@iveseen1]

This guy is hilarious, another tap dance around the questions.

[@kelvinmcnease9686]

damn matt must have been high as hell that day to let that guy waste all that time he literally didnt get to anything useful to a meaningful conversation

[@mrhdbnger]

Yep. On other shows with similar accusations of making theists look bad or characterizing them in a negative way the hosts have been quick to point out that it is a fucking call in show. The hosts have conversations with people who have voluntarily called in to make theists look bad. What are the hosts supposed to do about it? I think they go out of their way to try to find something positive in all of the stupidity. "That caller was dead wrong but they were very nice and that was a good conversation." They say stuff like that all of the time. If a caller is a jackass they say that. It's a lovely mixed bag.

[@ultramagnus8240]

Magic done it!

[@theunrepentantatheist24]

The 2022 Matt would spend very little time with Brandon. 2 minutes max.

[@WTF3602]

All believers...ARE Borg...🤷🏾‍♂️ You've given up your means to make decisions and think for yourself outside of what the motherboard tells you.

[@amiralhijaz5850]

Wow you guys are masters in debunking the halifuckinloya

[@n0w3lly90]

Why can thsse people NEVER answer a straight question and just ramble endlessly without ever going beyond just stacking up examples of WHAT they believe and never WHY?!