Let's Talk About Never Have I Ever (Season 4) *the end of an era*

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Hey Rummates, today we're here to break down the fourth and FINAL season of Never Have I Ever. We have a lot of ground to cover so let's talk about it!
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[@imuRgency]

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[@minhle9103]

No hate to you Rumi but i’ll not be supporting betterhelp. As it has been proven constantly that it’s a scam.

[@malayajackson4593]

babe not better help 😭❤️

[@srgwyoutube]

Betterhelp sucks

[@cuzimblk5719]

Idk why but I still think Pati's bf (now husband) is scamming her😭.

[@imuRgency]

what??? you don’t trust her *white* boyfriend 😂

[@cuzimblk5719]

@@imuRgency He definitely gets the side eye but at least Pati has somebody tho

[@devabraham9699]

SAME. Even on their wedding day I was waiting for the other shoe to drop 😂

[@lovergurl2179]

Same i dont trust the white boyfriend

[@froggywithaheart]

​@@devabraham9699agreed lol...like how they baited us, him not being a scammer was a bigger shock than if he was one lol

[@esonangabaza1115]

am i the only one who was still unsatisfied with Fabiola's story line??i feel like Fabiola's character was the most neglected after Aneesa

[@emmamarck5967]

the fact she didnt date the robotics girlie left me sooo unsatisfied

[@semolinalibra]

@@emmamarck5967 she was a freshman, so 14 and Fabiola was 18

[@coffeeandcats8332]

Kinda yeah. I’m surprised there was no episode for her. I would’ve liked to see her and Addison navigate their new relationship dynamic since Addison is in college and Fab was in high school

[@Tima-oz5te]

They paid Fabiola’s storyline DUST this season. We didn’t get to see how she actually achieved creating an inclusive environment in robotics club, we don’t know if there’s any trials and tribulations with her relationship, even her mom dictating where she goes to school could’ve been more, and they could’ve dig deeper in her choice in choosing to attend Howard as opposed to Ivy League or other PWIs

[@coffeeandcats8332]

@@Tima-oz5te now that I think about it, in like one of the last robotics scenes there were suddenly multiple girls in the club, although they initially only showed that one girl joining…wish we could’ve seen that process

[@photoshopped32]

Me clinging onto hope they’ll be a sequel because McEnroe said “for now”

[@trinaq]

Yep, sequel bait is always the best!

[@Aisha_Luv]

not to mention they're still marketing it!

[@milodavis1]

Nah the actress who plays Devi seems like she’s done playing Devi

[@kaleem9162]

If you have seen tudum maiteryi ramakrishna said , this is the good bye , for now . Quoting John mcenroe and hinting at a college spinoff

[@treajanemillard]

​@@milodavis1 she really does, but what if there was a sequel and it starred one of the supporting characters like Trent or Fabiola?

[@trinaq]

I was a little disappointed by the lack of focus on Aneesa, and how she seemed to disappear into the background. But it's possibly explained by Megan Suri receiving a lead role in a horror movie, so needing less screentime to prepare.

[@Glorielluh]

I feel like they could have at least written her out or said she was busy with the soccer club, I don’t like how they erased her

[@user-ny8td3on3m]

@@Glorielluh she literally was filming another movie how could she have had a bigger role???

[@_______________mit_ski]

Aneesa was a bad Muslim in nhie tbh

[@Aradhaya45720]

​@@_______________mit_ski no she was not . Everyone has their own choice to follow their beliefs. I'm hindu and I have lots of Muslim friends ( I'm from India) and they have their own beliefs . Let's not judge people

[@Glorielluh]

@@_______________mit_skio correlation to my comment

[@trinaq]

I love how much Devi has grown up over the course of the four seasons. This is best captured when her and Kamela dance together at the wedding, showing how she's more open to her heritage. I'm glad that other characters, such as Paxton and Nalini, received development, and Devi and Ben officially ended up a couple.

[@sheisrihanna]

yesss I agree w everything you said

[@mellowyellow6729]

The dancing scene made me cry so hard cause yeah that was an awesome full circle moment from her wanting nothing to do with Indian culture to embracing it

[@amayao601]

Yesss I feel exactly the same way

[@mollymay7760]

heyyy trina

[@trinaq]

@@mollymay7760 Hey, Molly, how's things going?

[@lolalocke2533]

idk how i feel about devi ending up with ben BUT i thought it was glaringly obvious that she was never gonna end up with paxton. from the first season paxton was presented as an "unattainable" high school crush, and was really a catalyst for devi realising that no matter how hot or popular her boyfriend was, it wouldn't make her love herself/value herself any more. her relationship with paxton was cute and he was really sweet to her, but it was never gonna work out because she couldn't overcome her own issues while she was in that relationship. idk maybe i read it wrong but i always saw her and paxton as a high school romance, nice while it lasted, but was never gonna go anywhere else.

[@zoi3713]

This is exactly how I felt! I love their friendship but looking back it was always clear she wasn't going to end up with him.

[@rainbow-aliplayz8101]

totally agree

[@neishawnjohnson7602]

I shipped Devi and Ben because they have the most chemistry. I always felt that although Paxton liked Devi, I always felt he only kept going back when people pointed out how beneficial devi was to him academically.

[@jamdoe6486]

Totally! Their interactions are quite endearing (barring him blurring boundaries as a teacher and once you ignore the actors’ age difference) and I think they got through all the romance they needed to to end up with a good friendship.

[@ADHDkid321]

I will forever ship Paxton and Devi because it really seems like they helped each other grow. Obviously Paxton matured a lot through his time spent with Devi but her crush on Paxton was the catalyst for her starting to process hers fathers death. They both make each other better. I also dislike Ben tho so idk lol

[@caaniisleeeep]

glad to see some Ethan appreciation, because I've been team Ben since season 1, but when she was dating Ethan i was actually like "maybe we can forget about Ben, maybe they dont need to get back together" like, i was ENTHRALLED 😭😭

[@sfjvariety582]

I agree with you! The chemistry between Devi and Ethan was unmatched 🤣

[@caaniisleeeep]

@@sfjvariety582 Devi has iron will, I don't think I'd be able to break things off with him like that 😭😭

[@bgos4727]

@@caaniisleeeep same especially bc of a stupid wallet that he stole for you, ¿that makes him a bad person?, fgs do we forget when devi was cheating and never got serious consequences? Bitch at least Ethan is loyal.

[@Kuromi-stan12]

@@caaniisleeeepsame tho like if he stole for me I would be soooo happy. Anytime I see him steal I would be like 👩‍🦯👩‍🦯👩‍🦯

[@sfjvariety582]

@@caaniisleeeep Honnestly, also it's the way Devi just brushed off their breakup as if there wasn't any chemistry in the first place 😭

[@IzzyandMimi]

Mindy actually ate with this show in particular. Like you mentioned the gradual development of going from "crazy" devi to just devi felt really natural. The writers and actor herself need to get there flowers, because this show was great

[@crystallewis5902]

I'm surprised that anyone is surprised Devi ended up with Ben. Writers (and often audiences) *love* the enemies to lovers trope, which Devi and Ben fit into, and most of all, think about the ending of the first season. The writers may not have known if the show would get picked up for a second season (especially with Netflix's tendency to cancel shows), and the ending of season 1 ends with Ben and Devi kissing after he drove her to spread her father's ashes. If the show hadn't gotten picked up, that would have been the ending, and was the first major sign that she was going to ultimately end up with Ben.

[@swiftafboii]

It's always been Ben, all along.

[@jamdoe6486]

I’m not surprised but I am disappointed. Them getting together feels like an odd one out amongst all of the happy endings (ending as it can be for a bunch of just-turned-adults). I wasn’t buying it.

[@yjayyy]

Nalini and Devi's progress from Season 1 to 4 oh I feel emotional just typing it out. I love them so much and I really adore the growth in their relationship

[@andreamonae]

no because it seriously is one of the best mother-daughter relationships i have seen done, and executed well, on television/film in a bit! (or at least in recent shows that focus on teens/young adults) also just love nalini; some of the best lines in the show, especially this season lol

[@kid-ava]

I loved their progress too. nalini was the best in season 3 and 4 😭😭💗💗💗

[@catherinenicole4322]

Devi's final scene with her therapist talking about her growth had me in TEARS. Definetly one of my favorite scenes.

[@DrWHO-jv5qi]

Bro, Ethan even with that less of a role, took my breath away like BRO IS MAJESTIC and the way he acts so perfectly as the knee-bucklingly hot bad boy was amazing...I am just happy I got to experience that

[@avomilkk]

Yesss, I usually cringe at a bad boy love interest, but for some reason Michael Cimino as Ethan...made...me...DROOL He was perfect in this role!)

[@rocktheroadtowembley]

Ethan gave major Jordan Catalano vibes!

[@sienacawrse6435]

i binged this entire show in four days and nearly cried at the end because i’m graduating high school this year like all the characters, that and all the college anxiety was just too relatable for me haha

[@drunk_taylor]

4?? I watched in 1 day. I don't know if I should be proud

[@sal4538]

Same dude I feel you :(

[@gemmamoon5998]

This show came out when I was in my Junior year, so it’s not perfectly aligned with my development, but it’s been a nice constant as I’ve grown up

[@riindala]

Dude I feel that especially with graduating it HITS

[@MidnightchatswithInfinity]

Samee, I’ve never related more to a show. I really hope they come up with a sequel to keep up with college cause it would eat!

[@elisabethw3141]

I loved this season and how it ended! Something that I really appreciated and don't see a lot of people talking about is how they represented the college application process and how Devi had to deal with the reality that Ivies are super hard to get into and that it's not your fault if you don't get in. I feel like so many teen shows these days are so nonchalant about everyone getting into prestigious colleges despite not doing anything academically (cough cough Kissing booth). Here, however, we see Devi make it her life's goal to get into Princeton, do everything right academically, and still not get in (at first) and get rejected by every other Ivy. It was also not smart of her to only apply to Ivies anyway but... I just really liked that storyline and it felt fresh and realistic in comparison to so many other shows and movies right now. I think the other characters also had interesting college arcs and sort of showed the other issues you might deal with, like Fabiola not knowing where she wants to go, or Eleanor's audition not going how she wanted it to, or even Ben struggling to fit in at Columbia. Then there's Devi at the end of the season struggling to pack and leave home for college. As someone who just graduated high school and is now heading to college, I really liked the inclusion of all these storylines, and especially related to Devi's.

[@agustdismyking3510]

FR THOUGH. Almost every series the characters get into big collages so easily. It’s so unrealistic 😭

[@earlgreymilktae]

YESS I so appreciated how they showed that the characters also had actual assignments/several extracurriculars to do alongside their teenage drama, and how it still helped progress the story. I was very entertained by the debate tournament, the Gatsby mock trial, etc. And like you said, them showing the stress of college applications, like not everyone can get into Harvard and Stanford lmao

[@girlsgokawaii]

​@@agustdismyking3510I'm not from the US and for a long time I tought the Ivies were the only collages/unis the US had because of the teen movies/shows 😭

[@agustdismyking3510]

@@girlsgokawaii TBH ME TOO!! And I live in the US☠️. It was just so normalized in every series that I really thought those were the only collages you could get into without being a disappointment. 🤦‍♀️

[@feliciaroyers1646]

I LOVED Fabiola’s arc and the moment she knew she wanted to go to Howard. It fit her so well and I’m glad she didn’t choose her college based on her friend. Also yeah the kidding booth was so funny because why would Elle ever get into that many good schools all she did was dance dance revolution

[@erinsbooks]

I loved this season of NHIE. It did make sense to me her ending up with Ben and tbh, he was really there for her and pushed her to be the best she could be. I've had friends who's parents weren't around much, so I feel for him in that way. And yes, sadly, Kamala and Aneesa were slided this season. So sad.

[@seducedbysasquatch]

they are such a cute little nerdy couple

[@erinsbooks]

@@seducedbysasquatch Indeed!

[@daisyo.6666]

I don't know why people say he was always there for her. They were competitive, yes, but that doesn't mean he's a nice person or a good partner. Across time you can see how Paxton was there a lot more to help her when she needed help than Ben. But I guess people like the enemies to lovers storyline.

[@mar.s6516]

Yes i missed those 2 also (Kamala and Aneesa). I really missed we didnt get to see more of independent and thriving Kamala and some cute moments with her BF. Also no time with cool Aneesa and her friendship. But i also missed we didnt get few real moments with Fab and her GF. 🙁

[@seducedbysasquatch]

@@daisyo.6666 when he wasn't there it was typically due to Devi sabotaging their friendship, same with Paxton (he iced her out after getting hit by the car). i hope that she eventually is single, Devi needs a bad bitch single gorlie arc fr

[@mmarceline3]

i loved aneesa and the show literally was like oh no she has an ED , oh no drama, ok byeee and then she had like 2 lines. i was so sad, she was great

[@mmarceline3]

also i really did enjoy paxton’s arc, i think it was so nice to see him grow and mature and then end up with such a slay woman

[@jupitersecIipse]

i might be wrong but i think aneesa’s actress was busy filming a movie which is probably why she was barely present.

[@mmarceline3]

@@jupitersecIipse that would definitely make sense

[@isabelk17]

I thought it was really nice that they included that Devi wanted to go to Princeton her entire life because it held sentiment to her about her dad. That explained so much about her character and made me feel for her

[@Tinamarie.Adorno]

Nalini has to be my favorite on the show. Her character development and relationship with Devi is my favorite thing.

[@gemmamoon5998]

Amen on more gen z college shows! As an undergrad student, I feel that there aren’t any American shows that really capture my college experience. High school shows are interpersonal slice-of-life (if done correctly) but college shows are always about big parties and massive life changes. When in reality, the biggest struggles of most college students are making new friends for the first time in years (it’s not easy!), adjusting to a new work schedule, and entering the working world. None of which I have seen explored sensitively in English-language programs.

[@prem9905]

you should definitely give sex lives of college girls a try! Especially because its another show created by Mindy and has lowkey similar vibes to NHIE but in a more mature setting

[@courajess]

Yes, I’m so proud of Devi. When Dr. Ryan said she was so proud, I cried and said the same thing 😢😢😢 they really did a great job with her character evolution.

[@maryamdorettemformpecassah8578]

Ben being the romantic interest is what is called ‘The Mindy Kaling’ effect

[@steamyvegetables1445]

Having the indian girl mc end up with the jewish white guy.

[@db3919]

when paxton, ethan, and des were all right there too🥲

[@kaeyasl1t]

@@db3919 paxton doesn't count he is also white lol

[@sam-kc9gn]

@@kaeyasl1tPaxton’s not fully white though. He’s half Japanese

[@feliciaroyers1646]

@@db3919no but des ended up being ew. He was a mommas boy

[@shawncarter5434]

I’m gonna miss this show. The first season got me through quarantine

[@zanlani]

The finale was perfect in my opinion

[@nishitaa.]

i love when people articulate exactly how im feeling

[@vivekasakthivel9052]

You explained it so beautifully... I totally agree with you❤

[@chelseaxoxo784]

Agree with everything 😭 Personally, Ben, Paxton and that India boy(especially the India boy. I'd really wanted them to end up together) were lovely to watch with Devi. I sort of wished we had more Nalini scenes. That woman is a goddess. Hopefully there'll be a movie. If there isn't, it's still a solid show. Also Eleanor's outfits in s 4 were lifeeee. Why isn't anyone saying anything about that?

[@feliciaroyers1646]

Yes it was obvious her and Ben were endgame! But I also thought maybe they would go in the route of her ending up alone. Also I didn’t even put it together at the end they were playing never have I ever! I love that! I wonder if some of the things they said corresponded to episode titles

[@zanlani]

@@feliciaroyers1646 That's what I thought at first too!! I thought they would make her end up alone to "Work on herself and be strong and independent", but I cannot express in words how happy I am that they didn't go that route. It would've been stupid Imo to do that because she’s already gone through a beautiful healing process and through it all, Ben has been there. And a person can be strong and independent and all that with a lover too. So Devi ending up with Ben was just perfect❤️

[@photoshopped32]

I missed Aneesa in this season 😭

[@imuRgency]

HEAVY ON IT

[@Glorielluh]

Same

[@tinyblueunicorn7807]

Same I was so confused when she showed back up outta nowhere, at first I assumed she'd been written out altogether and she may as well have been. I vaguely remember when they were applying to colleges she said she was glad she was doing something else or didn't have to do that, but that's all my fishbrain remembers until I rewatch it. And when she's not there the whole group just acts like it's only the three of them again? This is how I fear my friends act when I'm not there lol. I was also expecting them to do something with Addison this season, like their relationship with Fab happened really quickly (mostly offscreen) last season because they were only in like 2 episodes and barely spoke, but they were Fab's partner this season supposedly and we still don't see them much or know anything about them? I didn't even know they were non-binary until I looked up the actor. I get that there was a lot going on for the main characters but they introduced new ones with their own plots, so why not give the existing ones something to do too y'know? 🤷

[@justsomegirlwithoutamustache]

Not me

[@Bluescorpio]

This is probably the best Netflix Original in term of writing and acting, and i loved the show so much, i love how the whole season was just a closure and i cried almost all episode it was soo emotional and i related a lot with the things that were happening.

[@Hydro0223]

Ethan was meant to be eye candy and for once I was actually enjoying the candy

[@magma4168]

I've been temat Ben since S1, but this season Ben definitely made it difficult to be on team Ben. Also, love triangles were such a tired formula at this point. Well, at least they retired Paxton as a love interest and allowed him to grow as a character. I really loved his and Devi's friendship. Overall, I feel like this season was a bit too packed, felt rushed at some times (fast-forwarding to graduation, underdone Fabiola's robotic club's plot, lack of Aneesa, disappearing Ethan), it should've been 15 episodes long. Still enjoyed it and clinging to that "for now!" by McEnroe.

[@jess-vw3gh]

The one thing that consistently threw me off was how unrealistic their love life was. Like wow what a coincidence there was another young teacher that happened to start with Paxton? And EVERYBODY ended up with a love interest. It’s unrealistic asffff

[@juhip3739]

I also loved how Devi became more comfortable with embracing her culture and feeling more connected to it from season 1

[@mollykelley03]

the lack of aneesa was so sad 😭😭

[@emmamarck5967]

i didnt expect to cry like a baby during the end!! this series would have changed my life if it had came out when I was in HS

[@emmamarck5967]

I also love how they portray the university cycle, and how life doesn't end after an "acceptance letter" and that it might not feel as great as you anticipate but in the end is always the best choice, and that its okay to let go of the life you envisioned as a pre-teen when u didnt truly know yourself or the world fully, but that doesn't mean you wont regret if ya don't try!

[@makendestewart]

I loved season 4. Her growth was just… wow and although her dad wasn’t shown a lot i felt all though it was fine- we got to see her form into who she is without referencing her dad in a sad way but in a positive way about Princeton🧡🧡

[@karmo7369]

seeing the therapy placement in this show actually inspired me to start going 😭 mindy....u ate with this one. u ate with this one.

[@karmo7369]

this season especially the last episode felt so RUSHED ima miss my girl devi fr 😢😭 she was so relatable and it made me so happy seeing her as representation. the season shouldve at least had 15 eps

[@YouStankGoEat]

Benvi < Devi being single Also Anessa barely being in the final season was a crime like wtf she was easily the best character

[@esonangabaza1115]

i waited patiently for this and it came sooner than i thought😭

[@imuRgency]

i try to deliver!

[@copycat561]

People say they are all for mental health until we talk about Ben and Devi. They are both my favorite characters in the show (with Nalini) and one of my favorite characters in general. I just find them both so misunderstood by a lot of viewers. The whole thing about their relationship this season was about their own insecurities. They mirror each other so well. Ben didn't throw Devi out of his house or dated Margot just because he was a jerk. Devi didn't change what she wanted to text him because she didn't like him that much. They both have such strong feelings for each other but their own insecurities get in the way, which is so much more realistic for teenagers than Devi's relationships with the elderly (Paxton) and the criminals (Ethan). The whole season they both think the other doesn't like them when it is so obvious they love each other. Only when they put that aside do we get those sweet moments like Ben staying over to comfort her about Princeton while being the only one that gave her space to actually be upset about it while everyone was telling her that's not that awful. They also were a safe space for each other admitting they are both scared to go to college. They have a vulnerability with one another they don't share with anyone else in the show. While I understand someone maybe not liking Ben as a character, I think a lot of people project themselves onto Devi by saying they don't want them together because, honestly? They work. They are perfect for each other now that they've grown so much, in my opinion.

[@maxinemadmaxmayfield6719]

Honestly I agree with what you said about Ben and Devi. It’s like a “I wanted it until I had it” type of situation 😢😢

[@mcmac4714]

I feel like Devi should have stayed SINGLE. Ben wasn’t right for her. It felt so forced and last minute.

[@mirandalovett6063]

I got emotional too! Devi's character developed beautifully. I was not expecting Ben to be endgame (though given Kaling's track record, not that surprised) but as their relationship changed from childish bickering to a deeper understanding of each other and the pressure they put on themselves- I wasn't mad at the ending! I really hope Kaling starts to listen to these comments and shows more brown love or non-white, mixed-race couples. There's so much potential once you get past the disrespectful-white-man-turned-love-interest. She's otherwise a great writer and I do enjoy her shows!

[@brittanywithlove]

I think Aneesa was also done dirty, and I wish I could’ve seen more of her. So happy to see a story of the jock who dropouts 2 weeks into his freshmen year in college, and still have a happy ending and figuring himself out. I was shocked by the endgame relationship ending, I would’ve wanted to see her be alone. Love your video, so sad this series is ending 😢

[@mailysdegroot1356]

I really liked this season that they were all struggling with college acceptances and refusals cause its so much more realistic than in most shows where they just get into harvard without being top student, whereas here Devi as the top student doesn’t get in right away and actually gets rejected everywhere else. And same for her friends, they all had their own struggles of finding where they wanted to go and I really appreciated that

[@seducedbysasquatch]

i like ben the best for devi. they drive each other academically, they are competitive to the point they motivate each other. they have very similar senses of humor and interests, and are both huge dorks with confidence and family issues. no other boy was as consistently there for Devi as Ben was. Paxton was very wishy washy with her at first, especially when she ended up being his tutor. ben made it clear that he wanted to support devi (such as when he drove her to spread her dad's ashes). in the end i think she realizes that while she may find boys like Paxton more attractive, she also realizes that she has loved Ben all this time and that he was the right choice for her. of course, they're so young, i doubt it lasting past college, i hope they remain friends tho

[@k-ei9oj]

I really enjoyed this season! What bothers me is that Ethan is introduced for like 4 episodes and then literally disappears.

[@Fan_Girl-xd8wy]

high school exes dont usually stick around, especiallyh when they dont have the same friend group

[@k-ei9oj]

@@Fan_Girl-xd8wy yea that definitely makes sense but i thought it was just very sudden how he "disappeared"

[@Glorielluh]

I don’t like how they didn’t show side characters like Aneesa, also didn’t like that the dude form love victor was hyped up so much in the trailer just to barley be in the seaosn

[@isabeljacquier849]

I agree with you on the most points but Paxtons ending was really not it. Don’t get me wrong I loved his whole arc and becoming a teacher really suits him but I hated for him to end up with Lindsay. The show worked so hard too make it seem like he and Devi were in so different places in their live when they were just one year apart. Lindsay on the other hand had already gone through college, got a job to teach senior level of highschool and the started dating someone that not even a year ago had been a student at that school. No one can tell me that they are closer in their life situations then him and Devi. It was so forced treating them like a student teacher relationship when he wasn’t even her teacher and a few months ago had been her boyfriend. Also the Lindsay plot was so obvious from the beginning and not in a good way. The moment I saw a new young teacher I knew they would make her end up with Paxton even though they had zero chemistry. Also her hanging out with kids that she taught like a week ago and telling them to use her first name🚩. I’m not saying that Daxton had to be endgame but they completely disregarded the feelings that had been there when they parted in season 3 and also those that led to the kiss in season 4. Like they had to tell us a thousand times that they didn’t feel anything and just were friends but like why would you have to emphasise that if they were really just friends? It’s like they were trying to convince us not to ship them and it’s very sad that they dropped Daxton so unceremoniously. And I would’ve been okay as friends if they had given that process a bit more of explanation but I would let him go back to college single and finding someone there if it was so important that the person had the same maturity as him. I really didn’t like Lindsay she was really annoying and always acted as if she was so mature and grown up to make Paxton feel bad.

[@hearts4moon]

How he sees Micheal Cimino is literally me

[@devabraham9699]

I’ve always viewed Devi as like my little niece who I’ve watched grow and thrive and this whole season I felt myself get so emotional bc she has come so far. And the number one relationship in this show for me is Devi and Nalini’s. I feel like Nalini’s development is underrated bc the amount of faith and trust she has in Devi now is amazing to see ❤

[@Fanylorena]

I half disagree. I agree that it’s nice seeing Paxton find himself and find that he wanted to become a teacher because he realized he liked helping someone and making a difference but I didn’t like that he came as a teacher at his old high school..like I feel like they could have done it that he came back from Arizona and Eric found him and asked him to show him how to swim so it’s a side thing but not as a teacher, it just makes it icky considering he was just dating Devi and he slept with so many of the girls the year prior. Also him and the teacher I also didn’t like, I know Paxton is supposed to be 19 and she’s 21-22 since she just graduated college but idk, like it’s still feels weird again, given the fact that he just graduated high school not even a year ago. And I feel like Paxton and her didn’t even really have anything in common idk. I didn’t care for it. With Devi, I feel like Devi and Ben are the best frienemies. I liked their friendship turned bickering/insults/bully. I think they’re great as friends who support each other and all but I just don’t see the sexual/romantic chemistry between them. It feels forced. They truly should have ended up as friends only. Unpopular opinion but I loved Ethan. I think he was great for Devi. I like that this was the complete opposite relationship with Paxton. She was the dominant one the one in charge. He happily subbed to her, like he just went along with what she said or did. Ethan was enamored with her. I liked that we got that little fact that he’s never met anyone who is like Devi, who kinda tells him to his face things and who basically orders him around and I like that Devi didn’t have to chase Ethan, he chased her. It was nice seeing someone who was so into her from the start you know? I feel like they should have lasted all of senior year and maybe kept a long distance relationship until she met someone else in college. It just seemed like timing was such an issue with this season because from what I heard, aneesa’s actor wa filming something else that’s why she wasn’t there much, Ethan also had other stuff going on so he was there for like 2 episodes and gone. And manish (I think is his name) Kamala’s boyfriend, was also having some scheduling issues so he wasn’t there which felt odd. Like I feel like if Kamala was going to be there a lot he needed to as well. Also, grandmas whole boyfriend/husband thing was so random and came out of nowhere and was completely unnecessary. I feel like if they wanted to have an Indian wedding they would have had Kamala but again manish not being there ruined that. It was just so random and the fact that he was white too like why? Mindy needs to stop fetishizing the WOC with the white man trope

[@j.m251]

Def knew what they were gonna do with the teacher and Paxton and hated it immediately because of that reason. Like no way a dude fresh out of hs should be with someone who graduated college. Idk it just felt weird, and you’re right about them not having anything to talk about. Like “oh, both of us like to teach” ok??? And???

[@coffeeandcats8332]

YESSSSSS I agree. Paxton and that teacher felt really forced. I get him having to come to terms with not being the cool kid anymore and becoming an adult. But I felt like her whole thing was “when you fall flat on your face because you realize you’re not cool anymore, you know where to find me”. Like idk, that lesson could’ve been taught in a smoother way. Maybe it would’ve been received better if they actually had something in common. There was no chemistry lol. I really liked Ethan but he dropped the ball for me after stealing the wallet. I did think his heart was in the right place when singing Devi’s praises in front of the Princeton lady, but I don’t get why he thought the wallet was a good move after just doing that. I liked that he was so into her though because for once Devi didn’t have to do the work. And yea the Pati plot was kinda random. I got the idea that Kamala was invested in their relationship because Pati had been invested in all of her’s, so it was kinda to get her back. I felt like there wasn’t much closure with Pati and Manish and I really wish he was at the wedding, or like you said, it would’ve been even better if Manish and Kamala got married and Pati was upset with her and vowed not to come but showed up at the last minute

[@Zedd...]

@@j.m251 as if Devi and Paxton have anything in common...

[@Fanylorena]

@@j.m251 right

[@Fanylorena]

@@coffeeandcats8332 agreed!

[@igotpushed_]

Ben is the biggest support system for Devi and so is Devi for Ben. I think this is what they emphasized that no matter how messy it has been they really saw each other's reality hence the ending up together at the end thingy

[@Good13bye]

I agree, ben was not end game in my mind. Paxton would have been good, but if she ended up single that would have been great. I wonder where it will go if they continue the story or do a spin off.

[@jessicaa4436]

It would have been so underwhelming if she ended up alone

[@Good13bye]

@jessicaa4436 valid, but with that, "signing off for now" only leads me to believe this is possibly not the last time we'll see Devi or that friend group.

[@jaesugoi1]

MICHAEL CIMINO WAS TOO GOOD

[@jordanbell9409]

I wasn’t surprised at all that devi ended up with Ben despite him being the “wrong” choice for the simple fact that the POC main character usually a girl always ends up with the white lead, despite having another POC love interest This is the route that a lot of coming of age shows go with for example Ginny, and Georgia to all the boys, Doogie MD(reboot) never have I ever, ect. Where the POC main character usually ends up with the white lead instead of the POC lead male interest

[@Fan_Girl-xd8wy]

That would have made sense if it werent for the fact that the other love interests sucked. Paxton and her had nothing in common. Des was a mommas boy and Ethan was a crimminal...

[@jordanbell9409]

@@Fan_Girl-xd8wy you totally missed my point 😭

[@beta910]

@@Fan_Girl-xd8wy Ignoring that Paxton was still a great love interest until they made him a teacher in s4 (which aged him too much for Devi in the audience’s mind) you do realize that Des being a momma’s boy, Ethan being a criminal, and Paxton somehow never actually ending up with Devi is due to the writers (so the OP’s comment still holds true). Like if the writers didn’t make up some thing (which understandable in like s1-s3 to move a storyline along) to discount Des, or Ethan, or Paxton being near perfect boyfriends, you would’ve still liked them? Ethan was great if it wasn’t for the stealing, Des was amazing if he didn’t break up with Devi over his mom (though I understand their break up more than Ethan’s since Devi was still grieving heavily and didn’t really feel secure in herself), and Paxton literally broke up with her b/c he wanted her to love herself and somehow Devi ‘realizes’ that she always thought of him as a dream? (Which was true in s1 and beginning of s2 but it was clear that a friends to lovers situation was going on once she saw him as more than a popular guy)

[@parvatir3964]

Yeah, this happens all the time across TV shows from Shonda Rhimes shows like Bridgerton to Ginny and Georgia, to The Little Mermaid. Don’t get me wrong, I want more diverse endgame couples too, but it’s weird how everyone acts like it’s only Mindy’s shows doing it. She doesn’t work in a vacuum and studio executives are mostly white men.

[@jordanbell9409]

@@parvatir3964 I totally agree it’s definitely not just her. I just would love for this cycle to at least not happen in most teen shows like they literally dangle a POC character in our face as a love interest and it gives us hope that maybe the main character will end up with them, all for them to always end up with the white love interest and the POCcharacter is always so good for example John Ambrose(TATB) and Tommy Torres(Tall girl). It’s sad because it’s clear that they(POC love interest)were not even a real option in the first place.

[@squigglypop8748]

I think she should’ve ended with Paxton. Paxton realizes he loves Devi because she pushes him to be a better person and because she believes in him. Ben realizes he loves Devi because of a wet dream....

[@Jessica.Shawnte]

Ughhh no

[@babieejayy914]

I’m kind of sad it’s ending too. I discovered your channel by talking about never have I ever. I was tearing up watching the finale. I was so proud of Devi and her development like she was my little cousin. My only thing is Aneesa and Fab didn’t get enough screen time

[@universedonut159]

I was surprised that she ended up with either of them at the end, I thought she'd just be single and be their friends or something. I also wouldn't mind a s5 for college, we never get Gen Z college

[@ahmedbanaga8185]

I agree with you about Devi ending up with Ben but wanting her to fall involve with herself! But what I applaud the writers in doing is making it make sense for her character this season instead of just rushing the story like some shows. The journey to the end of the season was just so good that I'm not that mad for her ending up with Ben (even though they made us thirst for Ethan which O found weird that she just gave up of him instead of her trying to change him but I get that it shouldn't be her job to do that😪)

[@Mel-by7re]

she did not correct Ethan because she did not love him, she just was with him for her own needs of fun. once she had enough fun, it was easy for her to drop him whereas she cared about Ben and Paxton.

[@Fairysnuff91]

I liked Ben as a love interest because he had so many of his own issues, that I would argue were on the same level as Devi’s and he was so imperfect and their chemistry was great. He also grew a lot. One of my fave scenes with him was when he was laying in bed with Devi on prom night and he told her something about his feelings and saw she was asleep and he just smiled. He didn’t obsesses over it or anything. That said, I wish he wasn’t white. Like this show has so many great characters of colour, I think it would just have added a bit more depth and representation to not have a white guy as end game. Not that the actor wasn’t great, but you know.

[@Mel-by7re]

why is everyone against a white guy. i don't get it. its the majority population in america so some white characters are needed. it can't be all people of color. i am of color by the way. i just want to understand as many including the host commented the same thing.

[@birdiewolf3497]

Yeah I HATED that she ended up with Ben. I mean it is a Mindy Kaling so we know she has an obsessions with her characters ending up with BJ type. And I was praying that she could at least let Devi go to college alone, but nope. She just can't not do this. You were right to say Ben was the worst option because he was. Ethan was better than him, and he was a whole criminal!! It's kills me. It doesn't make sense, outside of knowing that Mindy is obsessed with putting her characters with BJ types. I just don't believe that Devi would entertain that man. Not after all that development. Not when she has a father that was so loving and kind with her. Nah. it was trash. Expected trash, but trash nonetheless. The Anessa snub was hideous. Like how you gonna do your own people like that Mindy? As far as Megan having other work, no that's not it. I checked the timelines. Her movies were shot in 2021. While filming for season 4 was done in 2022. So she was cut on purpose.

[@chloeluv]

Finally a comment I wholeheartedly agree with, after all her growth… her ending up with Ben was a step backwards for her. I know some ppl will disagree but idc, I have never liked Ben and I never will. Tbh Devi didn’t need him or anyone else. Solo Devi would’ve kicked ass and would’ve made the most sense for her character arc / full circle moment. I will always love Paxton of course it’s just so clear they were right person wrong time and that they will have a bond that transcends beyond high school. So either way ig it’s for the best.

[@kaeyasl1t]

I honestly don't get everyone's obsession with Ethan he was there for like a second and didn't impact me at all lol.

[@birdiewolf3497]

@@kaeyasl1t Don't misunderstand me, I don't care about Ethan either. I'm just using him to highlight how Ben is the worst person Devi has dated. Like she was treated better in that relationship than the one with Ben, and he's supposed to be shitty. That was the point. I didn't even notice Ethan never showed up again after the break up.

[@chanzy8613]

Yh I was not down for devi and ben it just felt so meeeeehhhh, like of everyone it was HIM reaaaaallly?😂😂 that’s the best she could do.

[@jessicaappiah1921]

THANK YOU!! IVE BEEN SAYING ANEESA DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER!! Honestly, my fav character too❤ I would've also loved a narrative part to her

[@LwaZulu88]

same, I hate how she ended up with Ben😭😭😭

[@flawlessfrenchfrie]

she ended up with him probably because Paxton was one, a teacher, so there would be a lot of controversy. and ig ethan was not a good influence so she didn’t end up with him

[@lillupsilon]

what i love about this show is that it's for everyone, i watch it with my mum and we always have so much fun, everyone can relate to someone in a way

[@cloudycee]

i been waitin for this ‼️ TURN IT UP 🔊⬆️🆙

[@h_51415]

This show was so good. I finished the last season in a day. And I'm still not set with Ben being the love interest but it is what it is ig. Thank you sm for getting me into this show

[@esonangabaza1115]

you're the reason i even started watching never have i ever. i cried during the last episode😔

[@unathi2012]

Devi kicking the vase while full on crying in episode 9 😭😭😭😭😭>>>>>

[@_Solmega]

I REALLY liked Ben and Devi together. They understand each other's humor and quirks. They are both neurotic but it works.

[@muzedbymusic666]

I was just searching yesterday to see if you had a video on this yet lol perfect timing!

[@alexevansda9263]

i knew this was unrealistic but i would have loved devi to end up with des they were so cute together and complemented each other really nicely, the only "problem" with him was his mom (and how he didn't really stand up to her, but i don't wanna hold that against him)

[@RobloxxieGamerGal9]

YESSS I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO DO NEVER HAVE I EVERRR

[@netflixreviews5422]

Absolutely loved the Paxton scenes, he will forever be my favorite character, his growth was awesome and you can tell he still was in love with Devi in season 4

[@Strawlighte]

I think this show and Crazy Ex Girlfriend are two of the best realistic mental health depictions I’ve seen on tv

[@pancake881]

I'm gonna have to agree with you on this one. At first, I was team Paxton for Devi. But once that ship sailed away this season, I rooted for her to get with nobody else. Both my mom and I did not like that she got with Ben at the end, and I don't think they're the best for each other. I think it would've been amazing if Devi just stopped the whole dating thing and focused more on herself, especially with the anxiety of college.

[@coffeeandcats8332]

That song they played in the last scene made me burst into tears. Devi was very messy sometimes (okay most of the time) but I loved watching her grow and have true development. I appreciate their portrayal of someone going through trauma and learning to cope. The only criticism I have for season 4 is that I wish we had more episodes. I feel like the side characters really took the backseat which is disappointing because this show has some really fleshed out side characters. I felt like normally the subplots with the other characters feel longer/more whole-it almost felt like they were rushing things a bit. Like I would’ve liked to see an ep with Kamala and Manish and their relationship and her confiding in him about being afraid to leave (they could’ve even just dedicated part of an ep to this). It felt like her whole plot just revolved around Pati and they used her as a plot device. I also wish Fab and Eleanor got their own episodes. I know the actress that plays Aneesa has another movie or show right now, but she wasn’t there for most of the season and when she first popped up I was confused why she was still there. Even when she wasn’t, they never mentioned her. As for Paxton, tbh I didn’t like the teacher they tried to pair him with. It just felt like she just wanted him to realize he’s not all that cool anymore. I get he’s a teacher now, but all they ever discussed was school and I didn’t feel any chemistry

[@dxvidvfx]

i was waiting for your video omgggg !

[@Glorielluh]

Yess I’ve been loving these videos, ever since the first nhie vid have loved your reviews

[@tomatosoup1304]

I binged season 4 in one day and it was just awesome. Devi in the S4 is so much more mature compared to S1 and the conversation with her therapist made me cry so bad. I’m so happy to see her grow into a confident woman who’s proud of her culture. Also I like how they actually showed how difficult Ivies are to get into (especially since other Netflix shows make it super easy looking) since if anyone deserved a place it was Devi. Also her closure with her father’s death was a perfect ending. I am mad that Ethan was under-utilised but I also liked that his thing was he was an actual bad person who loved attention from girls since that was a cool inversion of the trope and his relationship with Devi really helped her oub

[@desology444]

have you made a video on the show jane the virgin? i would love to see thoughts about that one!! love the diversity, family and generational tropes, the romance, the plot twists and it’s over all really emotional and funny! one of my fav netflix series

[@XanStephP]

YES!!!! JTV and The Mindy Project were on repeat at that time. Really good shows.

[@Unfiltered494]

Ben was 100% the correct endgame for Devi. Their story was being developed and evolved since day one and each season pretty much ended with an important scene for their relationship. He was the one who understood her the most and was there for her biggest, most crucial moments. I pretty much knew they were going to end up together since the end of season 2, because the story was clearly written that way. I love a good organic development that has a satisfying follow through. Too often the writers of teen shows go with either a shocking ending, a "a girl doesn't need a man to be fulfilled and ends up single" ending, or straight up fanservice. NHIE writers stuck to the story they'd been telling all along and I love it. Also I don't understand people's problem with a brown girl ending up with a white guy. Why are we even bringing race into it in the first place?

[@megalaishungry]

I've loved going on this never have I ever roller coaster with you

[@imuRgency]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@khadeejaabdul6675]

I just enjoyed listening to someone else talk about this show. Thanks. I loved and agreed with everything you said. Really great video

[@musabudaza]

This season was very emotional for me 🥺

[@TheFrdw]

I really wanted to see Devi and Ben together because of the way Devi reaches for stability the entire show. She has a lot of unconditional love from her mom, friends, and the rest of her family and I wanted to see that in a love interest. It felt like her and Ben learned to respect each other over the seasons and I trusted that he would be there for her even though she's moving so far from everyone else. Seeing her with a brand new guy wouldn't have given the same "happily ever after" impression for me because I've seen Ben handle Devi's issues really well over the years you know? They are great at calling each other out for bad behavior but also giving that unconditional love and support that they are both so desperate for. Ben even more so. It was a really satisfying ending to see them chasing their dreams and supporting each other. They could have done it as friends but you can't deny the power of enemies to lovers.

[@nerd26373]

We appreciate your insights. They're direct and detailed.

[@rockstarjit9]

this show as it came out year after year perfectly matched up with my high school, first season came during 9th grade and 4th season came during senior year so it was pretty emotional being on the same journey

[@aubreewithaextrae]

you always upload when i'm eating, it's perfect timing 😭😭

[@nathaniahenry141]

What i really loved, was we get to know why Devi wanted to go to Princeton so much and it was because of her dad. The entire serie was Devi trying to go throught her trauma about her dad's death, and it was beautiful to see that it was their thing and that she needed to do that thing for him. That show was the best and i'm really going to miss it.

[@IzzyandMimi]

Never have I ever is an era im not willing to let go, thoroughly enjoyed it

[@tenebae1999]

Honestly Aneesa was my favorite season 2 and 3 and it really sucks that at the end of season 3 and during all of season 4 she disappeared it really hurt because her character and story was so compelling

[@mckennalynn1916]

Really liked your video essay! I loved the ending with her and ben (I was team ben since the beginning), but I really do agree having her end up on her own and loving herself would have been a powerful and unique send off!

[@amantemotshewa3611]

As a gen z who just graduated a few days ago to watch devi graduate with me made it hit harder

[@kilimanjaro5537]

I loved “never have I ever.” I’m gonna miss this show but it made sense for it to end. And I think they wrapped it up nicely.

[@whereismara]

I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO DO THIS

[@parvatir3964]

Such a great review!! I feel this show was really a watershed moment for South Asian women’s representation, and I hope it opens the door to so much more. 🙏🏾 Loved seeing a matriarchal multigenerational household of dynamic, unique South Asian women grow closer, crack jokes, and bond together over 4 seasons. I loved Devi’s incredible journey of growth and healing and therapy over 4 seasons. Such a great representation of a messy brown girl dealing with grief, trauma, and identity and going to therapy for 4 seasons. I cried during that scene with Dr. Ryan at the end when she pointed out how far Devi had come. 😭 And yes, I don’t like that endgame for Devi either, but I’d like to think she breaks up with him after a few months of college. 😂 It’s hard to do long distance in college and most HS relationships don’t last. Plus Ben is too insecure and will probably act out again when he sees Devi thriving socially & academically lol. But yes, loved all the other characters’ growth! Paxton had such a great arc in S3 & S4 and I love to see him find his calling as a teacher! His friendship & closure with Devi is so sweet. Love Eleanor and Fabiola’s ending and I loved Kamala & Devi’s dance at the wedding! It really showed Devi coming full circle to embrace her culture since the Ganesh Puja episode in S1 where she looked down on the dancing, to now doing a beautiful Tamil dance with her cousin. 💃🏾

[@mariabaillet]

i would love it if they do a spin off following Devi through her new life in college and making new friends, breaking up with Ben because its just not working and finding new love mhmm (insert olivia wilde gif) edit: oh u said that at the end too 😭

[@srgwyoutube]

LOVVE THIS SHOWWW great job analyzing it

[@Tasha31301]

Finally U are doing a review on the show also I’m definitely going to miss the show so much especially Devi

[@realkyraful]

I have been patiently waiting friend for you to say something. 😂