Yesterday i thought about how amazing it would be if coach cupcake would make an in-depth thresh guide. and here it is. absolutely amazing, omg.
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Hope you learn something :) thanks for the support.
@EndRewCns Жыл бұрын
I'm a Thresh main, watching this video I understood some mechanics that I couldn't make properly, I also enjoyed the macro & roaming, very important for support. I appreciate the content and I'll watch more of it 👍
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you still got use out of it as a Thresh main :)
@tottigreco4271 Жыл бұрын
My goal for years has been to reach Platinum. Thresh has always been my main. Today I reached Plat, playing Thresh. Thank you so much for your guides, especially the ones on mentality. They helped me a lot. Keep up the great work.
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Congrats on plat! I'm glad my videos helped.
@vipneo3879 Жыл бұрын
At 15:45 you talked about you can only use your Q to pull yourself towards the enemy but you can do it before, when you only pulled him once, also you can instanty pull yourself towards minions and monsters. Dont forget about the "lolipop effect" on his Q (if you hook next to minions and it goes next to those and the enemy is behind those you can still hit those) Also be careful, in higher elo /scrims / official games some can "just ward" ontop of your lantern with pink wards (which can stop your mates from clicking on the lantern) His E also has a lil hitbox next to himselfwhich can displace the enemy. But so far a great video, i hope i can see more videos like this one in the future
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Yeah I probably should've brought up some more points in 1%s, didn't really know where to fit some of these interactions.
@vipneo3879 Жыл бұрын
@@CoachCupcake Also i forgot that his Lantern also can block ppl when they try to run away inbetween the turret and the wall, if right placed, it can happen that it blocks their path and the "walk-way" is going to be AROUND the turret aka back into you and you ADC.
@smayu4432 Жыл бұрын
Bro I picked up Thresh 4 days ago and this came out 😂🎉 thanks so much for all the effort you put in to these! Much support
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words!
@tottigreco4271 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this since your first champ guide, thank you for the great content!
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@plainoldpete Жыл бұрын
You are an absolute legend! I've watched all your other in depth videos a minimum of twice each!
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@willjames7683 Жыл бұрын
Best LoL support education on KZbin. How do you not have more views/subscribers? I'm a bard main, but have been having strange Thresh urges recently..
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
I feel you there, I'm picking Thresh much more than my main Bard nowadays. Thanks for the kind words!
@kostya6576 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Finally in-depth guide on thresh🎉
@thedubiouscalcule Жыл бұрын
thank you so much, I'm a one-trick thresh stuck in platinum for 4 years and this guide was really helpful and I'll definitely watch it a few more times.
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Hope it helps :) thanks for watching
@dototftvortic7708 Жыл бұрын
Very good guide for thresh players, but for boosts I do have a different opinion. cdr and mobi are definitely good opinions for thresh. But you want to build mercury boots if you play vs zyra, lux or any other type of support that have rooting abilities. The reason why is that sometimes that you will get rooted for landing a hook at the same time (0.5 s channeling time). But with the mercury boots will allow you to still go in on them after the root ends but cdr and mobi sometimes will block you to engage in completely. (lux q will root you for 2 sec and zyra e at lv5 also has 2 sec duration while thresh first q holds for 1.5 sec)
@tumihoang Жыл бұрын
Love your guides ! Hope you can release more on all supports in the future too, keep it up !
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot :)
@andremeijer3330 Жыл бұрын
Best guide if seen just picked up thresh and this is such good advice 👍
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@marcelgg8508 Жыл бұрын
Man i cant believe this! I started Pyke because of u and i already have 200k points on him, but then i wanted to learn thresh and u gave us a guide! I love u
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
I hope they help to set you on the right path!
@bobontheroof Жыл бұрын
Incredible content. Thanks for making this Cupcake
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words
@jjlightnin1 Жыл бұрын
This is incredible thank god for the goated support coach
@CoachCupcake8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@confps8938 Жыл бұрын
I knew you’d make this eventually. It’s beautiful 😍
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@alexanderfrench9236 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god it happened!!
@garrettbyrd1324 Жыл бұрын
love this as a thresh main myself
@dominickcharbonneau9250 Жыл бұрын
best thresh guide on youtube
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@user-px8zm2kr2p7 ай бұрын
Nice guide learned a lot thanks!
@HuyVo-gd2cj Жыл бұрын
Love this guide. It taught me a lot. Thank you.
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
I’m happy to hear that :) thank you
@Deviiilz69 Жыл бұрын
Very good guide!
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@xarisalkiviadis21628 ай бұрын
I am a wild rift player (never played LOL PC before and i am pretty old to start now), and i was looking to learn initially how to play Pyke. I came upon your content and it is mindblowing what you are explaining in your vids. The way you coach thresh is no-where near how wild rift players play him. Off course, is a faster pace LOL game, however, the concepts should be the same (for example the way you first space before you engage). I will try to use all those tips and see how good i can be. Thanks a lot for your videos!
@CoachCupcake8 ай бұрын
Hope the concepts carry over as much as they can for you :)
@schnoepsy1530 Жыл бұрын
Finally! Thank you!
@duncanlemarbre3796 Жыл бұрын
Learned something new even though i have over 250k mastery on Thresh. Thanks for the great content!
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to have helped!
@christoffer3719 Жыл бұрын
AMAZING, video man!
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aze3936 Жыл бұрын
I love thresh and this is the perfet content, loved your Rell guide as well !
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@sarahT52 Жыл бұрын
I love your content ❤️, maybe one day, could you make a senna guide? Since she is kind of different than other supports in what she wants to do in the game
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'm sure I'll get around to Senna one day, she is unique and a lot of fun.
@bobontheroof Жыл бұрын
I echo this. Would love to see your approach to Senna as it's one of the few supports I've struggled with.
@scarycookie8827 Жыл бұрын
Senna would be amazing, but one day does not sound like anytime soon :
@marcelgg8508 Жыл бұрын
Im waiting for a senna guide too, ive been playing him, but its pretty hard
@Mertin967 Жыл бұрын
This was great, thank you!
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@itspedyluis Жыл бұрын
Well done, super helpful
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@janhob7250 Жыл бұрын
I came to upvote and comment. Best coach euw.
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! But I am from OCE haha
@janhob7250 Жыл бұрын
Oh damn. Didn't knew. I would love to see you in one of the episodes of "broken by concept". Would love if you get in touch, you guys are the best ♥
@benjaminmella367911 ай бұрын
As a bruiser thresh top main this is informative
@CoachCupcake11 ай бұрын
I'm happy to hear that!
@emircanbadur6424 Жыл бұрын
IT'S TIME FOR THE MAIN YEAAAA
@alimonged9520 Жыл бұрын
great guide. thank you very much
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Hope it helps!
@lucasezequielpereiracaitan9983 Жыл бұрын
amazing i loved it
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@omardsg446010 ай бұрын
Amazing guide! make me want to play thresh
@CoachCupcake10 ай бұрын
He is a lot of fun!
@artig.1118 Жыл бұрын
Agree. You need confidence when you chose to play Thresh
@alitaqi6154 Жыл бұрын
legend !
@stephenstewart3301 Жыл бұрын
Nice video coach
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :)
@TyrantBrendorf9 ай бұрын
had no idea q recast makes lantern stay until he reaches the target woah
@sizzlack5442 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@themask789411 ай бұрын
You can also run more of a front lineish build with radiant if you need a front line in your team (looking at Ap/ranged tops)
@themask789411 ай бұрын
Can go zohnyas for after you ult
@flyinggeovishapthatcanswim2377 Жыл бұрын
1:03:45 This convinced me, dude ain't kidding when he said to build for CD. Is this build still good with the latest patch?
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
It's much harder to stack CDR nowadays. Best you can do is shurelya's and knights vow and hope for the best, so you won't cc chain with hooks like before.
@flyinggeovishapthatcanswim2377 Жыл бұрын
@@CoachCupcake Thank you I'll try it! Still the best thresh guide imo
@stefanobeltrami5626 Жыл бұрын
Such a cool and useful guide! Can u do lulu next pls?
@JayFrontera Жыл бұрын
i'm coming here every single week waiting for this, I did masterize rakan but I do have a 0% win rate against tresh and I did a tryout on a team and they wanted me to pick tresh but I'm too bad with this champ so I lost, ty cupcake now I can be a immoral sup
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@JayFrontera Жыл бұрын
@@CoachCupcake ty, also nice mustache
@mihaitzan Жыл бұрын
goat
@NathanIrwin Жыл бұрын
In regards to the rune setups, how do you feel about zombie ward + relentless hunter?
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
If for some reason you are deciding to completely ditch bot lane, it can be decent. I think I had 1 game with a karthus ADC where I ran this setup.
@aleksandarvasilkov3155 Жыл бұрын
I go 2nd part Sorcery cuz of Nimbus Cloak provides short burst of ms when you use hexaflash and ofcorse i go Celerity. When i have good cc team i switch cosmic insight for Approach Velocity its insane ms for landing e q combo ...😂😂😂 People in enemy team get pissed a lot😅😅😅
@user-mr2un4yf6d Жыл бұрын
In-depth Alistar please!!!)
@hasagishiro Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this in-depth thresh guide! But just to discuss, how useful is it to build Anathema's Chains into a fed enemy? I would appreciate thoughts on the build components as well as the finished item :) Edit: 1:09:59 I have 777k mastery on thresh and I didn't know soul are invisible to enemy when you're in fog :o I've been playing all my games respecting the passive soul range when ganking another lane =.=
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
It is useful. health and ability haste are great stats to stack on Thresh. Also makes Q stun longer. Components are fine just go kindlegem first. Yeah it'd be helpful if they changed the visual!
@slof6911 ай бұрын
u ever tried ghost instead of flash ive been messing with it and it feels pretty good ngl kinda what ady does with attack speed double resist runes e max ghost
@CoachCupcake11 ай бұрын
Flash is too crucial for Thresh for that flash flay into hook, or flash lantern gank setup, and having hexflash for additional threat throughout the game!
@arist7922 Жыл бұрын
Liked and subscribed
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@breado_ Жыл бұрын
LETSS GOOOOO
@miguelguerreiro4858 Жыл бұрын
I saw your video on champion pool and as a gold player u dont recommend tresh. My problem is I like him a lot cause he feels engagy but not so much I have to go in like a Leona would and also it feels like I can buy supportive items for my teammates and empower/peel them like a enchanter would. I feel like I dont quite identify myself fully with neither enchanter nor engage so trehsh is a nice mix. I assume u would say its a choice I have to make to sign a contract thay my climb will be rockier, so my question would be what should I do in order to gain more consistency even tough Im using a playmaker, being trehsh, pyke or bard?
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Yes the fluidity of identity is exactly what makes the playmakers harder to master. A simple identity, either engage or disengage, is easier to understand and then become expert at. I understand the fun of playmakers but they're a double-edged sword in that regard. There's no shortcut to gain consistency on such complex champs.
@juri6332 Жыл бұрын
Hey Cupcake, you didnt mantion anything about Thornmail when you were talking about items. I just wonder why, I build it almost every game im against Enchanters and Regeneration champs.
@vondoplays1630 Жыл бұрын
🐐
@spielezer126 Жыл бұрын
Hey, with the upcoming mid-season changes, will Thresh get weaker? As we can see in the PBE, a lot of his items are losing the Ability Haste
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Yes the ability haste stacking is harder now! I would say overall this makes him weaker although definitely still playable.
@mmm-tu7ub Жыл бұрын
thoughts on Swifties instead of Mobis/Ionian? always liked the lower price point, and sticking to people after glacial pops feels nicer this way than with mobis imo. great vid :)
Especially vs poke comps in early game or in case of mispositioning in general when Mobis drop yours MS to such a state when you get heavily punished for buying them. Prefered Boots of Swiftness before that guide, but Ionian really boost your Ability Haste.
@mmm-tu7ub Жыл бұрын
@@j_v_linden yeah ive been running Ionians since this vid and you really can feel the haste, kinda hard to go back to just moving a bit quicker lol
@MistahUnknown Жыл бұрын
31:25 I throw out my lanterns at different spots behind me and walk up towards them as if I'm lanterning in my jungler. I'm all about playing mind games with their bot lane. Then when my jungler is really here (like the Lee Sin was), they have a reason to not believe that he's actually here. That's when I actually do the lantern>flash>ability combo on them.
@MistahUnknown Жыл бұрын
Playing mind games with them is all part of the "showing/having confidence" thing you mentioned.
@mobilegameadsdontdeserveto6010 Жыл бұрын
Hey, was watching this to expand my champ pool past onetricking Pyke and when you said Pyke is good into Thresh, as a relatively low elo (euw master), it had me very confused. I struggle against Thresh on Pyke very hard, whats the key to the matchup that makes it Pyke favored? I feel like Thresh is always able to completely stop Pyke from doing anything as he can very reliably cancel Pyke's E and Q and has a significantly stronger hook.
@mobilegameadsdontdeserveto6010 Жыл бұрын
Great guide btw, very insightful.
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Pyke Q shorter CD than Thresh's entire kit, investing your flash to set up a play will feel good, Thresh can't control the bushes due to Pyke's threat, stronger all-ins, sustain with passive, you should be able to overwhelm Thresh. Pyke Q should never get interrupted, stay out of his E range, or be in fog, or fast hook Q. Can't say much more outside of going over a game in a coaching session tbh
@mobilegameadsdontdeserveto6010 Жыл бұрын
@@CoachCupcake Alright, thanks boss! Will go vod review some games and look out for what you said.
@j_v_linden Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for that deep of a dive into Thresh! There is a lot of ground covered that really hard to find in a most of the videos about Thresh or supports in general. Especially that thing about souls not revealing you when Thresh out of enemy's vision. I only learned that in other video couple of days ago despite playing this champ for a few seasons. I also wondering: does Thresh ever need to buy magic resist items like Force of Nature? Obviously when enemy team are all heavy AP champs, but i just automaticly buying it whenever i see my pretty low MR stat and very fed Zyra&Zoe or something like that. Is health items like Knight's Vow really more effective?
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
I must've missed this comment sorry! No you shouldn't ever index into MR really. You won't be able to stack CDR effectively and you shouldn't be front-lining anyway. Stacking health and at most resistances from merc treads or locket should be enough with reasonable positioning.
@Lancelot2000Lps Жыл бұрын
Plz master Cupcake when comes the Karma guide?
@dragonaireleader Жыл бұрын
Any chance you're doing an Alistar guide in the near future?
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Unsure what the next champ guide will be following the near future enchanter champion.
@th3b0uld3rr Жыл бұрын
Hey coach, speaking as someone who is very low elo (silver) it seems to me that Thresh is too difficult a champion for a player like me given the precision and timing required to use his abilities correctly. Is Thresh worth learning still, or would it be better to focus on an easier champion?
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
If your primary goal is improvement, you should not play Thresh below minimum plat IMO.
@DKHurricane14 Жыл бұрын
Since the glacial nerfs would you change the keystone!? Or keep it as glacial?
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
Probably still glacial, I don't think the nerfs are enough to warrant swapping. The alternatives aren't great and there's a lot of utility still.
@DKHurricane14 Жыл бұрын
@@CoachCupcake Roger that thank you for the guide I didn’t say it in my last comment the guides you make always help me keep up the great work
@screwhead9387 Жыл бұрын
best skin to carry ?
@hidden7395 Жыл бұрын
can we get a Braum guide feels like there is no love for Big Boy Braum :((
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
I'd love to make one, if enough people would enjoy it!
@hidden7395 Жыл бұрын
@@CoachCupcake I'm sure many braum mains would. The current guides are nearing 1 years old or more. Not that they are bad, but I'm sure you will go more in-depth.
@giustomuh Жыл бұрын
all still viable nowadays?
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
The build is different since the mid-season update of course, it's much harder to stack CDR and we should avoid mandate with it giving 0 health now. We can try the 15 CDR items like knights vow and zeke's but it won't have the same perma cc as before. Redemption is a solid item but no CDR. Otherwise the rest of the guide applies!
@Andrew.Downing Жыл бұрын
Should a silver player avoid this champ? I read they should because hes too hard but is this true?
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
If your priority is to climb as smoothly as possible, yes. If you love the champ, understand you're complicating your journey by playing such a mechanically intensive champ where you need to learn the fundamentals of the game.
@brettreaves Жыл бұрын
I like tahm into thresh because tahm dumpsters him no further elaboration.
@brettreaves Жыл бұрын
Sorry I just love tahm kench.
@CoachCupcake Жыл бұрын
I also enjoy Tahm! I could've talked more about all 3 wardens probably.
@dtnv7324 Жыл бұрын
first❤️
@MistahUnknown Жыл бұрын
Why'd you used a Dirt tier matchup for making a support guide? LOL.