In-depth tour and thoughts of our new boat | 2024 Supra SV 400

[@josephfleming6384]

How is the boat in rough water being a smaller boat? Does it slam down pretty hard?

[@haknslash]

@@josephfleming6384 our lake gets rough and the SV handles chop better than my previous boat (Moomba Max) which was slightly longer. I think the heavier weight helps a lot. Ride is not rough at all!

[@joshs4109]

How much before sales tax?

[@stephenjacobs259]

Hows the interior room for passengers feel versus the Max? We own a 2018 max and have started eyeing an upgrade. Very nice looking boat!

[@haknslash]

@@stephenjacobs259 it’s always just the wife and my daughter with me. We had all that room in the Max and never used it lol. The SV is smaller but it does not feel cramped. Obviously just the 3 of us but now my daughter enjoys the bow more than she did with the Max because the SV has cupholders (can’t believe the Max was made without them up there lol), arm rests, better grab handles so she felt safer etc. it’s not as wide in the bow as the Max is and tapers in as you can see. I never really say in the bow of the Max much but I’d say it’s obviously a little roomier side to side but about the same in front to back length along the middle if that makes sense. The cockpit on the SV vs the Max really only feels smaller on the side behind the driver seat because of the storage and integrated backrest there. My daughter always sits there and I’ve sat there just chilling. It’s perfectly comfortable to sit “lounge style” in the “short” corner facing front or back and angle your legs off, either on the floor facing forward. I actually have some footage showing body placement in some of those areas so people could gauge normal adult size for reference but I left it out for time since it was already 17 minutes long lol. The rest of the cockpit wrap around feels about the same as the Max in terms of size. There is a lot more room on the transom as well vs the Max. Basically the SV is a little smaller but feels much more user friendly and definitely more sporty. Give the SV a demo of you can and see what you think. It packs a hell of a punch and I loved my dialed in Max!

[@stephenjacobs259]

@haknslash thanks for the breakdown ! I'd say our reasons for looking our faster ballast fill times, more storage due to not need the wakemakers or other ballast and in floor cooler. Curious what your reasons for upgrading were? Can't wait to see some footage of you surfing that beast!

[@haknslash]

@@stephenjacobs259 my reasons to upgrade were more consistent surf wave, power seat, drop step, hinged cushions all around the kid goes on. Don’t get me wrong, I loved my Max, but after 5 years you certainly grow to know what you like, what you don’t and what you wished your next boat might have. Honestly it’s a lot of the little things that add up to why we upgraded. Yea the payment is certainly more than double lol but the boat truly feels at least 5x the boat. The only thing I’m having to adjust to is the less freeboard compared to the Max. It’s not close to the water or anything but the way it is shaped not being for the lack of a better word more brick or tank-like, the Max just deflected any spray and you rarely got spray. The SV is still tall and still has plenty of freeboard. It’s just not tall like the Max, Tykon, etc kind of boats they have massive freeboard. Just something I’m getting accustomed to and not a negative, just different is all. Ironically with it having less freeboard than the Max, I’m able to travel through rough water at higher speeds than I would have on the Max. Hull and overall boat just handles really nice and solid!

[@haknslash]

@@stephenjacobs259 oh and as for storage. I don’t feel I lost any from the Max to the SV due to the ballast all being subfloor. The only difference now is that yea sure I can’t stand chest deep on empty bags anymore lol (big deal after the cool factor goes away and you realize all that space turns into ballast space) but not I just don’t have to worry with bags at all and with any gear staying on top of the bags as they filled. It’s really nice in the newer Supras. Storage is all lit up too so you can see stuff at night. All hinged too which was a huge must-have with whatever our next boat was going to be.

[@Flienlow]

Haknslash, now that you upgraded, is this just an overpriced Max or is the wave much better?

[@haknslash]

@@Flienlow WAYYYY better wave, especially in terms of power and push!! Still playing around with lead placement to see what can be dialed in of course but this wave is definitely at least 3x better wave than my dialed Max with WM bags and lead. The SV weighs 6,000 lbs dry so 1,500 lbs more than the Max dry. SV comes with 3,800 lbs of ballast. 60 gallon fuel tank vs 65 in the Max. Rough estimate of dry weight plus full fuel, full ballast, 500 lbs of lead, and 230 lbs for myself that is around 10,670 lbs total displacement! That’s wild!!!! By comparison my Max with fuel fuel tank, 1200 lb rear WM bags, 540 lb WM midships, stock 1000 lb center bag, 500 lbs of lead, and 230 lbs for myself is a total displacement of 9,881 lbs. That means the SV is nearly 869 lbs heavier when fully ballasted vs my modded Max. Less fill and drains times too. I think on the SV it was just shy of 7 minutes to fill the boat up and you’re ready to go vs about 12-14 mins in my Max filling up the larger WM bags. Ride quality is another area the SV excels at vs my Max. Add in all the other Supra tech and I’d say no this is way more than just a rebranded Max lol. Even though it’s like twice the payment it feels and performance like 5x the boat overall. Demo one and if you don’t need a large crew I bet you come away blown away, especially if it’s a 450 or 550!! I will say it’s was a very expensive demo I did last year when I first demoed the SV. It never escaped my head once I rode the wave, that’s how impressed I was, and I’ve ridden on SA and SL (pre 2024 models) and this wave was much better than those stock for stock given same size crew.