iNav for beginners 2020: 2. Flashing the flight controller and basic setup

[@asanterichard9498]

YOU are an excellent and a born teacher, you don't hide ideas from your students as compared to others, i salute you for your selfless time and ideas. much appreciate.

[@jamesgodley2065]

Another HUGE thanks, if it wasnt for your videos, I'd a given up. Just flashed my Speedybee F405 wing - using Zadig. It works! Unbelievable - you're a hobby saver, this has literally made my day!

[@NukularPower]

i cant believe there isnt a single "big" quad maker out there building something aroudn this. Guess that just means I have to build my own! Thank you for the helpful tutorials :D

[@beefybeef1326]

Your a legend. Thanks for this series - really appreciate your high quality content. Have learned alot from you

[@GRDwashere]

This and your other beginner's video series is absolutely fantastic. Thanks to you I have successfully installed the ZOHD kopilot in my trainer and successfully taught myself to fly. Now I'm getting into FPV with Inav and a MATEKSYS F722 WING (because that's what you're using) fc following along with this video series. Thank you for your contribution to our hobby, it's easily the very best on youtube for people like myself, I'm not sure where I'd be without it - probably still at the bench trying to decipher the kopilot documentation and not having flown yet I suspect.

[@fpvcrumudgeon4576]

It'b beginning to make sense. iNav "ports" are the OpenTX "inputs". Open Software is simply amazing. The principle object is to make something better; the product does!

[@rmooneyhan0624]

Lee, appreciate your putting these videos together. Especially your CLI settings. Looking forward to the next video.

[@pierstaylor7780]

Thank you, I’ve ordered a zohd 250g fpv so it comes with the kopilot. But this week I lost an expensive quad, so I really want to get into inav. Thank you for this series. Try to save money by spending money!!

[@AeroStuffFPV]

This is helping me so much! Thank you! I'm also taking my first step into INAV

[@NATGEOANDSTUFFPaulbrannan]

Great stuff lee as allways thankyou.

[@BMSWEB]

Awesome Series!! iNav is on our to do list!!

[@yardner7670]

Love this series...... Please...... add a quick setup for us SPEKTRUM users , Please !!! thanks

[@Painless360]

No difference in the setup. Just select TAER as the channel order when setting up the reciever in iNav... best of luck

[@glacian79]

There is a bug that will prevent telemetry from working if an expressLRS Rx gets plugged into UART2.

[@ab7rs]

ok, 3 modes...angle loiter and manual. what about return to home? thanks to you I'm finally getting away from stuff like Kopilot and moving to inav.

[@Painless360]

Keep watching. Those more advanced modes are good for when you've got the basics setup correctly... Best of luck

[@stevenhunter7619]

love the video and tried following your instructions. However my computer does not register the port on Inav when I connect the controller

[@Painless360]

See my video on Zadig. Best of luck

[@Bill-NM]

Hi Lee - can iNav be installed onto any of the Pixhawk family of flight controllers (the original Pixhawks, the Cubes, etc)? Thanks...

[@flymanjg]

Hello, can a Full size Spektrum receiver be connected to a Maytek f7HD flight controller through the receiver's SRXL port??

[@moneyhunster]

I can't get throttle to arm, it shows up on the receiver tab and i can get the motor to spin on the motor tab but nothing from the controller when i disconnect from the pc

[@Painless360]

This video may help.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3qyZXp5pLipjdk

[@universerc7045]

Dear avtor maybe you can help me ! What can be problem ! After like a 30 second after connection to PC, ( Every 10 seconds was reconect automatical) my F411 Wing just go OFF and i can see little RED LED Solid ! I Maybe i do some worng or this FC just got failed ?

[@jeffbluejets2626]

Trying to update a couple of OmnibusF4 pro controllers that have V2.1.0 to V2.6 and eventually the latest. Running on a v2.1.4 configurator as the later ones will not recognise the board until I update the board software first. Have checked "version" to find the board type and have saved both a "dump" txt and a "diff all" txt file. Currently trying to follow the instructions to first go from board software V2.1.0 to V2.6 as it recommends. It says to ....... " Now it's time to change your settings file so it becomes compatible with the latest INAV firmware. Follow your specific version instructions." So where is this "your settings" ?????? ....Cannot see any reference to lines they recommend to change in the "diff all"........ So is it in the "dump" text file I saved.............. or in the new download v2.6..??.......................rather confusing but sure there is a simple explanation. Any help greatly appreciated.

[@lowriderfpv8440]

Gday Lee All of your videos are so informative and I learn something from every single one. I seem to have nothing but trouble with this electronic stuff, I have a F722-wing i have soldered on all the pins, checked continuity and all seems to be ok, when I plug in my FC to iNav I am unable to connect, when I connect to the computer I only see the red light comes on solid at 3.3, No brief flashing lights at one and zero like on your video. I have installed the STM USB driver and the zadig and have ALSO run the Impulse driver fixer and also held down the DFU button on the F722 but nothing, except "failed to open port" and red light at 3.3 stays on also the FC unit gets warm? I have tried different combinations of trying to connect once"failed to open port " and then restarting iNav without "failed to open port" showing, and I have tried every USB cable in the house.I hope you have another idea, Thank You for any help!

[@Painless360]

Did it work before you soldered the pins on?

[@lowriderfpv8440]

@@Painless360 First of all THANK YOU for responding so quickly! Sorry Mate I did not check it before I soldered on the pins, now that I have I guess I could have done it incorrectly but all the soldering seem to go well only a few pointy solders the rest looked great, but I will never know because I did not check it first. So with all that does it seem to be a defective FC? I realize you have No way of knowing, I just thought you might have a hint of something else. Thank you again

[@nicholasn.2883]

@@lowriderfpv8440 I'm in the same situation. I think I might have shorted the board by laying the pins on some metal accidentally. Either its some weird firmware thing or I killed it :/

[@tortuguita357]

Thank you so much 😊😊

[@michaelkappas949]

At the beginning and end of the video the video shows a cable that connects the receiver to the flight controller. It is different on each end. At one end it connect to the receiver. And at the other end it connects with what looks like GPIO (General Purpose Input Output) pins. What is the name of the cable (or wiring) and the name of the ends (one appears white & the other black)? How does one order such an item? And how are the GPIOs attached to the flight controller? Thank you.

[@Painless360]

Most cables used to connect things in the hobby are Dupont 'servo' cables that are easy to buy in the length you need or get the parts to make them up yourself (see my video on Crimping). Some smaller receivers designed to be used with flight controllers and use SBUS or things like CRSF use different, smaller connectors and they usually come with a cable that you can solder onto to make up what you need. Check out my build series aimed at beginners to see more. Happy flying!

[@mister-t6890]

build my dart 250g and glued all together in the wing and made the inav configuration und now i know my fc is not working correctly

[@thomasb1205]

Amazing video, thanks

[@fpvcrumudgeon4576]

From your CLI file, it seems the rth_altitude=7000, seems to mean 7000'? If correct, isn't that rather high?

[@Painless360]

Nope, see what the value means in the docs. You can look any setting here - github.com/iNavFlight/inav/blob/master/docs/Settings.md. 7000 equals 70m or 229ft so is a decent starting height to fly back with. The files are supplied as a guide only. Edit them to your preference but check the units before you change anything. Best of luck!

[@flymanjg]

An F722-HD to be exact?? Thank you..

[@Painless360]

Possibly. The Matek website is fantastic and has clear wiring diagrams for all of the options.. Best of luck

[@lowriderfpv8440]

Gday Lee, Is the last part of the video about the CLI inputs related to the fact that the diagram for the F765 and INAV Target states that the "CLI default's after flashing" If not what does "CLI defaults after flashing" mean for us after flashing the board.

[@Painless360]

I don't understand the question. Can you explain?

[@lowriderfpv8440]

@@Painless360 Sorry, On the diagram for the wiring for the Maytek f765 in the upper left hand corner it has printed, "INAV Target: MAYTEKF765 ***CLI defaults after flashing". Does that just mean that the CLI returns to defaults after flashing? And the CLI commands that you recommend for a fix wing are improvements to the default settings, like, not having the aircraft land with the RTH function? Thank you so much for responding to my questions and all of your excellent videos. Cheers

[@Painless360]

Anything in that listing with a *** should be set automatically when flashed (bit I'd still check). That has nothing to do with how the model is setup or flown. That is what is in the linked files - you can see if you look in them.. Best of luck!

[@lowriderfpv8440]

@@Painless360 Lee, Thank you so much for answering my questions, Yes I can see how the linked files will change the setup for the model. I am still on the back side of the learning curve with all this computer stuff, but I am sure I will finally understand this stuff with all of your informative videos and answering all of your followers questions on KZbin. Cheers and Happy Flying Henry.

[@justinbarber4567]

Thanks for video. Can anyone please confirm if INav will cope with mixing a 6 servo F5J model inc crow braking? The controller I am considering is Matek 765-WSE.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic video, Lee! Thanks a lot! 😃 Let me ask you something... Do you think it's better to start flying manually (I mean an airplane without flight controller or anything) or I should start with iNav right away? I still couldn't build my first airplane. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@Painless360]

You do need to know the basics to setup iNav in a FW so some manual experience is handy. If you can get another pilot to help set it up then things like Angle mode can be a boon to help pilots learn to fly..

[@MCsCreations]

@@Painless360 Yeah, but here it's difficult. 😕 But thanks a lot! 😊

[@Painless360]

Check out those video from a few months ago on tips and tricks with maiden flights etc. Something like a Bixler or AXN is a fab place to start and having a friend to throw it for you in the beginning coupled with some solid time on the simulator will help you avoid a lot of the common mistakes early pilots make.. Happy to have a chat if you need to..

[@MCsCreations]

@@Painless360 Nice, I will! Thanks! 😃

[@revert2theStr8path]

I, I wish to use of these on an off the shelf flapping wing ornithopter. Basic purpose is to be able to fly it and then be able to analyze the flight data like accelerations rates etc. So which type of airplane do you think I should pick for an Ornithopter? And can I download the flight data or view the flight data live with this flight controller?

[@Painless360]

I don't think INAV supports that kind of model... best of luck

[@johncarold]

Hi Mr. P. I'm having a little problem, I just received my Maytek H743 wing, so I tried to use INAV for the first time with this F.C and it asked me to install INAV and I went into the CLI and typed version and I got. MaytekH743 (m743) 4.2.0 Jul 16 2020 , I then went to flash INAV and looked at the target I looked at the Maytek lines but no H743 ? I can't even find any 743 boards at all ??? I'm using INAV 2.6.0

[@Painless360]

H7 isn't supported in INAV yet. See my video on it..

[@johncarold]

Trying ARDUPILOT

[@rckeith]

Great video Lee as usual. Would you recommend the 405 or the controller in the video. Not sure what the difference are, apart from price😊

[@Painless360]

For a fixed wing I would use any of the Matek wing flight controllers. See my recent builds with F405-WING, F722-wing and F765-Wing. I cover the differences in my fixed wing flight controller comparison video... happy flying!

[@garytownsend6953]

I'm about to setup INAV for the 1st time... Just curious, but when did they change the image of the quad to a block in the calibration part of the setup?

[@garytownsend6953]

Lol, the block changed into a quad at some point 😃

[@MartinLadys]

hello, i wanted to ask do you have a video somewhere setting up your TRANIS for inav dark? Thank you. Your videos are illustrative and easy to grasp, thank you.

[@Painless360]

I'm guessing you are not a regular viewer. Check out the rest of this iNav for beginners 2020 series and the two Drak builds I did last year. I hope they help... Best of luck

[@enriquech4041]

Lee, is it possible to flash any of the new firmwares (iNav, Arduopilot, etc) in a flight controller HMXM2066 that belongs to a FORM 500 drone from Helimax? Regards

[@Painless360]

Check out the supported boards listed on those projects. Unless that flight controller is based on one of the supported hardware platforms you may struggle..

[@justin6125]

for some reason when i go to save after ports it does not save any of the settings what could be causing that?

[@Painless360]

If it's only happening on the ports tab then you are trying to setup an invalid port config.. Happy flying

[@colehallman9449]

You are awesome Thank you

[@fpvcrumudgeon4576]

Most receivers have 4 pins, power/ground and tx rx. How is that passed on via a 3pin JR plug?

[@Painless360]

Only recievers using a two wire connection for signals and telemetry have 4 pins.. SBUS doesn't but often needs a UART for the telemetry...

[@egtreadway4232]

I flashed my f405 awhile back with latest inav- mission planner,today try connecting to inav the way you did and every time it says failed, I opened mission planner and it connects no problem and i can select all the sensors, modes I guess anything i would need. It shows all the live telemetary. I guess question is this normal? Thanks for any help

[@SmallScaleSteam]

Hi. I'm hoping you can help. I managed the firmware flashing OK and after reconnecting the window that allowed me to select "airplane worked" OK. For a few seconds after that the display showed that the Heading, Pitch and Roll varied as I moved the flight controller and then suddenly all the angles dropped to zero. Since then the H,P & R angles have never shown anything other than zero even though I have tried disconnecting and reconnecting the flight controller to iNav and even re-flashed the firmware again.

[@Painless360]

Sounds like something has failed on the FC. Triple check you flashed it without the right firmware.. best of luck

[@SmallScaleSteam]

@@Painless360 The CLI DIFF file shows the Gyro as being OFF since I flashed the F405 and selected the Airplane mix. Any ideas about how to get the Gyro On again ?

[@jamesdecotiis7692]

Hi - I have been following the series and think it's really great. I used to fly RC as a kid back in the 70's and I'm trying to get back into the hobby. I just purchased the MATEK 411 WSE and I installed the INAV 4.0 Configurator. Is the INAV 4.0 the correct version of the Configurator for the MATEK 411 WSE or do I need an older version? Thanks Jim

[@Painless360]

That will work fine. I'm using the same flight controller with INAV here on my latest build... Happy flying

[@UncleTeddy314]

i get 'failed to flash to COM' after the serial port closes this is fresh out of the pack, am i doing something wrong?

[@Painless360]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jau3omiQjMmbiK8 cover it on the channel and there is discussion of that in the video and it is also the first link in the description. Sorry you missed it. Glad you're sorted - happy flying!

[@timwsac]

Great video Lee, but where do we get the settings that you just pasted in at the end of the video. Thanks for doing this content it really helps.

[@Painless360]

Link in description. Happy flying!

[@timwsac]

@@Painless360 Thanks Lee

[@cwwisk]

Is F-Port supported on iNAV 4.0+? Also is a Matek F405-Wing capable of supporting F-Port?

[@Painless360]

Yes it should be. I don't use it here so can't try it. www.mateksys.com/?p=4488 Best of luck!

[@DrohneschweizCh]

what is the difference using inav or betaflight for my wings? thanks for your answer

[@Painless360]

See the first video in the series... Happy flying

[@turboromy]

Thanks for the teachings and upload. I am having trouble even with Zadig to flash firmware. (just noticed impulseRC, so will try it as well) It keeps giving same error message. This same laptop can flash F7 drone FCs on Betaflight, so I thought it already has all the drivers (which I am assuming same for iNav). Question is, if I get this flashed with a friend's mac, will I be able to connect with my laptop and change settings ?

[@Painless360]

Yes, Zadig only replaces the driver for the DFU part..

[@turboromy]

@@Painless360 As a last resort I tried impulseRC driver fixer and it works flawlessly. Comments online and that driver say Google Chrome is the problem. Anyhow, I'll be watching rest of your series. Thanks.

[@OriginalGingaNinja]

Hi Lee, on the configuration page there is a warning saying you should increase the i2c speed if your hardware allows. Ive not been able to find any info on this. How do you know what speed to change it to? I usually just bump it up a bit and haven't had a problem but it would be really nice to set it properly? Thanks.

[@Painless360]

I always leave it at default. If you saw errors on the i2c counter (at the bottom of the screen) then you can reduce the speed. Correctly routed and managed cables in the model should mean you never have to worry about this. Hope that helps.

[@OriginalGingaNinja]

@@Painless360 Thanks a lot. Its the warning on the screen that made me feel like I should do something with it !🤣

[@egtreadway4232]

Thanks so much but im using windows 7 pro, I dont understand how i flashed inav and mission planner is working but wont connect to inav now

[@Painless360]

It's almost certainly a driver issue if you've tried another USB cable. Lots on that in the forums.. Best of luck!

[@egtreadway4232]

Thanks ill try that

[@edwinroper5458]

thanks lee for being the best. i did figure out my problem with the modes got everything working and ready to maiden but i did notice when i flip the switch to nav poshold it shows acro is there any way to change that

[@Painless360]

If that's in the OSD then that's normal.. Best of luck

[@beefybeef1326]

Hi Lee. I was wondering, does the dji system now show speed? On your mini drak maiden I remember you said speed wasn't shown...

[@Painless360]

It does. Happy flying

[@beefybeef1326]

@@Painless360 brilliant!. Thanks

[@coulsonrobert]

How did you find the Mini Drak preset PIFF values worked for the Nano Lee? Or are they basically irrelevant because you do an autotune?

[@Painless360]

Maiden video available in the playlist.. Worked well for a first flight.

[@minirotor9006]

Hi. Is it possible run Inav on a XP computer? I tried the windows 32bit version but get KERNEL32.DLL. can not find. I downloaded and put that dll in the folder-but still same message. Thanks.

[@Painless360]

I've never tried. Best of luck

[@ab7rs]

I see you are using a Tar anus. I'm running a Spektrum DX6 with Crossfire full size plugged into the trainer port, will this all work for me or should I buy and learn an open TX radio first?

[@Painless360]

If you can create a basic model type with the four main controls and two additional switches on Channel 5 and Channel 6 then you should be fine. Best of luck

[@kenschulz5138]

Hello Andrew Thank you for all your videos. I install my Inav on my laptop but when I hook up my F705 board Inav tells me I'm missing a port driver. Can you let me know where to go to get this driver for my window10. This is all new to me Andrew Thank you

[@Painless360]

Not sure, what is the *exact* error message?

[@kenschulz5138]

Opps Andrew this is what happens when your in the field working and your mind is building your wing. I ment to say F405 not F705 and the error code I get on Inav is=Failed to open serial port. Thank you for your reply back so fast

[@abidikar]

Can you flash Firmware of iNav on F4 or F7 Flight controllers instead of Betaflight.

[@Painless360]

You sure can. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZmZd5d4Zd9peqM best of luck

[@abidikar]

@@Painless360 Thanks a lot...

[@the_paranormal_factory1812]

Can I use inav for quadcopter drone?

[@Painless360]

Yep. See my videos on it

[@difand1]

Hello, first of all I'd like to thank you for very useful videos! May I ask for a peace of advice? I have brainfpv radix li, wired and configured everything according manual and your videos. However my FC doesn't see my spectrum receiver. The receiver serial output connected to Txe on FC PCB. I am using vertion 2.6 of INAV FM. What should I check/retune? Thanks!

[@Painless360]

There are two ways to connect the receiver depending on the type you have. see www.brainfpv.com/knowledgebase/radix-hardware-manual/ for details..

[@TobyMuirson]

Hi Lee, Great video. Do you have a link the sound pack? I Would love to have my radio voice the nav modes.

[@Painless360]

open-txu.org/home/version-2/v2-2-resources-2/

[@jeremiahulishney5322]

Hi your videos have been very helpful. Do you have any tips for changing the orientation of the Matek flight controllers? Most of the build I have been doing I have room for placing them with arrow facing forward but my upcoming builds I need to turn the board 90 degrees. I know some of these board have 2 gyros in them (f765) and wasn’t sure if you even could change the orientation because of this. Thank you

[@Painless360]

It should work the same as the top builds on the channel. You'll need to try it out and stop when the movement of the model is back to matching the virtual model in configurator.. best of luck

[@jeremiahulishney5322]

Painless360 Got to test the board orientation change and noticed in the configuration page the roll changes the pitch and pitch changes the roll if you make changes to the angle of the board alignment. This is in inav 5.0.0 using a Matek F405 wing FC.

[@jimmckeown2950]

No success, and have received a "failed to flush", response that was preceded by "failed to open serial port". While I have reinstalled Zadig and STM32 but don't appear as usb devices. I'll try ImpulseRC next. Maybe that's the answer. take care.

[@briancrick935]

can you have more than 3 flight modes in Inav?

[@Painless360]

Yes you can. See the later video in the series..

[@MsnNightingale]

Hey there! Thanks for tutorial. Can you advise how to tune external minimosd? Mine stopped working after I've updated to inav 2.6 from 1.9

[@Painless360]

I've not used an external OSD for years.. Best of luck with it

[@Mstom178]

do u have a crossfire setup w Inav ?

[@Painless360]

For how to setup Check out my Crossfire for biggin beginners series.. Happy flying

[@usarmyfl1]

Thanks for the video! When connecting ailerons to a flight controller, do you still use a Y cable and one connection, or does each aileron servo need to go on a separate pin of the FC?

[@Painless360]

You can do either.. Happy flying!

[@cwwisk]

I was trying to set up a Matek F405-Wing last night and it was not able to find/activate the serial port. My cable was a data-transfer capable micro USB cable. I tried booting the fc manually and restarting the configurator. I don't have internet at home yet and my computer is still running Windows 7. It is possible that I need to download drivers and stuff, or it is possible I need an internet connection to configure the flight controller. However, I have the latest FC firmware locally stored on my computer, so flashing should work offline. I have not been able to find anything about this issue because most people who are using something like iNAV do not live somewhere internet is unavailable. (Thankfully Elon Musk saved the day with Starlink, which will arrive tomorrow.) What do you think?

[@Painless360]

I've never tried to flash a flight controller from a PC that isn't connected to the internet so not sure. It is very possible that drivers are the problem as you should see the FC appear as a DFU device ready fro flashing if you power it on with the boot button pressed in.. Best of luck...

[@cwwisk]

@@Painless360 it is the driver. I have been talking with some folks on github about it. A quick Zadig fix later, and everything is golden!

[@jpicazio]

set max_angle_inclination_rll = 600 Set max_angle_inclination_pit = 600 set small_angle = 180 set nav_rth_allow_landing = NEVER set nav_rth_climb_first = ON set nav_rth_altitude = 7000 set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 0 set failsafe_procedure = RTH set inav_reset_home = FIRST_ARM set nav_extra_arming_safety = ON

[@Painless360]

That looks like a nice set of settjngs! Be aware that as of INAV 6.0 the extra_arming safety option has been removed. ..

[@attackfpv]

set max_angle_inclination_r11 = 600

[@attackfpv]

It says invalid name now. How can I change that

[@Painless360]

the last three letters are short for ROLL = RLL. Not R-eleven - R11. get max_angle_inclination_rll

[@attackfpv]

@@Painless360 got you haah thank you

[@jcjrdigital5570]

So I have a problem where I can flash Inav but can't get it to connect. It shows that the flash was successful but up top in the inav configurator it doesn't change and show the com port like yours did. I have tried flashing a few different times but I get the same results where I can not connect. I don't know what to do.

[@Painless360]

Recent windows updates can mess up the drivers. The download links are on the main page. Reinstall them, delete the device and try again.. best of luck

[@typxxilps]

Looks like a science ... first time I looked at matek website cause luckily I had bought matek 405 wing fc a year ago. I checked the wiring diagramm and inav mixer section and was asking myself if that what I saw could be right like those 6 gps cables for 12 pads on the board here is an example from matek website www.mateksys.com/?portfolio=f405-wing#tab-id-3

[@Painless360]

The cables are the GND, +5v, Tx and Rx for the GPS data and SCL/SDA pins for the compass. All have corresponding pads/pins on the flight controller shown in the wiring diagram. I don't use the compass in my wing builds as I don't fly in high winds (see my video on compasses that covers why). Happy flying!