“Increase the pain Russians are suffering!” Francis Fukuyama, interview in Ukraine

[@EuroPravda]

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[@griparbelli]

Don't talk for Ukrainian people please. Ukrainians are sick and tired of people who impersonate them without consult them . We have a Zelensky who has not be elected and now is fishing like a dead fish. Let's people vote and not take their place.Matter is not "free Ukraine that nobody touches , that is a propaganda fake, . But if the Ukraniain mothers wont their young sons to die for Ukraine to belong to Biden or to that turnip green of Stoltenberg. P;ease be more honorable .

[@funyt7364]

So Russia has severe manpower shortages while Ukarine has endless population supply. This point is very ridiculous

[@user-yq2wk6yg8s]

Ukraine started with huge disadvantages but fortunately Zelensky was able to motivate his citizens to volunteer in huge numbers. With help from the west they have managed to bring things to a more equal fight by being given many opportunities to cut down the poor hapless frontline soldiers bribed and then forced into the meat grinder attacks, thus giving the Russians so many headaches that they hadn't been expecting.

[@carahiggs7157]

@@user-yq2wk6yg8s 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Hilarious

[@daniel8728]

@@user-yq2wk6yg8s You are full of crap! Ukrainians are hiding from conscription!

[@X9xredgkoa]

@@user-yq2wk6yg8s lol pf course, them lowiq nafo lunatics are funny asf

[@PapaDutch]

Observation: The vast majority of (us) Americans are unaware of anything beyond WALMART ~ the "Mommy and Daddy will take care of everything" mentality.... To this day, ask someone in America what they think about the war and they will ask: "What war?"

[@danpovey]

I had thought that Fukuyama was a serious thinker. I now see that in his original "End of history" essay he wasn't joking. (He tried to backpedal the stupidity of in the book treatment).

[@hannibalbarca4372]

“Increase the pain Russians are suffering!” : These are the true Western values, thankfully Russia kept some Nukes from the Soviet heritage, otherwise, it should has been "democratized" in the same way as Irak, Yugoslavia, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan & Ukraine....

[@aregranhaug8617]

7:30 "People are tired." I hear this a lot. Tired of what? How can somebody living safely in the West be tired from aiding Ukraine with tiny fractions of their wealth? It's pathetic.

[@MBPLLC]

I agree. Those "tired" people aren't even fighting on the battlefield. "Tiredness" is a russian talking point that was promoted by the kremlin.

[@JasonSpielberg]

Not everybody has wealth lol

[@romanz9342]

nobody owes anybody anything... your ambitions should be matching your capabilities.

[@aregranhaug8617]

@@romanz9342 the point is that our capabilities are enormous, our ambitions are feeble, and we aren't suffering at all. It's the Ukrainians who are suffering. They are the only ones who should allow themselves to say they are tired.

[@janvanrenesse2118]

I am tired from Ukraine. Because this war is not about Ukraine but about US worlddominance.

[@gregorydesleskine3413]

Few Americans living today know what WW2 was like, and few today know what it's like to live with a 9/11 tragedy happening every day in Ukraine, not being able to defend yourself adequately due to the snail pace of promised military aid.

[@hazelwray4184]

January 2022, Kiev/Kyiv was shelling Donbas daily and to the greatest extent in years. Russia amassed troops at the end of February 2022. Negotiations took place in Istanbul March 2022. Russia pulled back some of its forces. April 2022, a deal was outlined only to be abruptly dropped following Boris Johnson's hasty and impromptu intervention. Senior Ukrainian negotiators said that NATO was the key issue for Russia.

[@gregorydesleskine3413]

@@hazelwray4184 Ruzzia has been pushing its borders and taking over parts of sovereign nations for decades like cancer. It does so by stirring trouble and interfering in the governments of independent nations, paying large sums of money to puppets that do their bidding. They've done this in Chechnya, Moldova, Georgia, and Ukraine, all this while committing the most heinous crimes against humanity, countless war crimes, and going against the internationally recognized UN Charter. Ruzzia is a mafia-controlled terrorist state, believe what you will.

[@zacharylayne7569]

No, it wasn't. You want proof? Go read the daily reports of the Special Monitoring Mission that was monitoring the line for years prior to invasion. The number of civilians killed by BOTH sides from 2016 - 2022 were fewer than die EVERY DAY in Putin's was of choice.

[@Mika-1971]

​@@hazelwray4184 That's true it is much easier to invade countries that are not NATO members (article 5). That's why Finland and Sweden joint NATO. Putin will not try to invade them in the future.

[@MrPietjeBel]

@@Mika-1971 Why in godsname would Putin invaded Finland or Sweden?

[@Joe_Terra_Citizen]

Japan can have a hand in it by taking back its islands and northern territory

[@davereynolds3403]

how ?

[@Mad_Dog_of_the_Regime]

Only in it's wet dreams.

[@TorstenKnodt]

The problem is with a cease fire, Ukraine technically has a pending border conflict, which would block them from NATO membership. Or did I get something wrong?

[@Mopsisgone]

Thats not the problem. The problem is Russia keeps ATTACKING during cease fires. They declared a cease fire to evacuate civilians from Mariupol and then opened fire on the evacuation points!!

[@carahiggs7157]

@@Mopsisgone 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@etoiledenoundi]

With the West, The 'posts' can be shifted to fit the purpose. Not even rules written and signed in indelible ink need to be respected. Take note of that. Did they not negotiate the Minks 1 and 2 agreements, signed and guaranteed by The leaders of Franc and Germany? Did Ukraine respect their part of said agreement? What did those same leaders say a few years later? 'They negotiated and signed the agreements with no intention of having them implemented, but to buy enough time for Ukraine to be armed, and its soldiers trained for a fight with Russia in 'future'. That's how the West keeps agreements it signs! But they tell us it's Russia, which always lies!

[@Mopsisgone]

@@etoiledenoundi What a load of TOTAL NONSENSE! Ukraine went to broker a peace agreement in BELARUS and Russia POISONED the ENTIRE DELEGATION! Ukraine is not IN NATO and RUSSIA treacherously IGNORED the BORDER THEY THEMSELVES DREW and drove all the way to KYIV murdering and RAPING their way there! SHAME on you for a LIAR and supporter of GENOCIDE!

[@romailto9299]

​@@etoiledenoundiso who's the aggressor here?

[@ivandelei3062]

Yeah f*ckuyama was so accurate in his prediction of "the end of history" that it is very interesting to see how will this one end.

[@Burrburrcloud]

But he was right. The US is leading us to the brink of extinction in more ways then once.

[@thesceptic1018]

That book also laid out the alternatives, including exactly what is happening; you haven’t read it (or anything probably)

[@mavrom4537]

War is racket

[@SLF-o2w]

The Racket is a recent book by Matt Kennard, a young version of John Pilger. Follow him.

[@herbertvanlynden6629]

For the record: Fukuyama is not Japanese but as American as Biden or Trump or Harris.

[@mmmuwwwti2]

Very good Interview from both sides. Big thank you from a German from Munich.

[@tenzinnordron9836]

I think Fuku’s “pain points” need to,be more active as he enjoys fantasizing about the PAIN OF OTHERS! He is so ignorant ….

[@isokabooks3758]

Salary man writer

[@АндрейКаминский-г9в]

Fukuyama became famous for writing an article with a prophecy, and then became even more famous when his prophecy turned out to be nonsense. I don't know of any other such examples of scientific triumph. The guy is definitely a genius.

[@jpx1508]

Fukuyama's "end of history" concept has proven accurate. The media ran with a sloppy interpretation of the book's title, not with the book's thesis, and few people have taken the time to read his full statement.

[@jsaintr.i.r4018]

Путлер - твой БОГ 🫡🤡 Заходи ♠️

[@JasonSpielberg]

@@jsaintr.i.r4018 I can't read Chinese bro

[@АндрейКаминский-г9в]

@@jpx1508 being a world famous scientist who predicted something that people have no idea about is an even greater achievement!

[@GeorgeGzirishvili]

Fukuyama never argued that the history has already come or that democracy can't have setbacks.

[@escobeer3605]

A world order is needed that can prevent wars like these as they are so senseless and destructive with decades of bereavement on all sides.

[@WingkKong]

A order is meaningless The problem is the western power never respect other countries interest

[@user-yq2wk6yg8s]

That's what we all want but it's still a long way off and in the meantime we have to work with the reality on the ground.

[@jorgesanchez2118]

This man has no shame.

[@carahiggs7157]

...or brain

[@jpx1508]

Have to love Fukuyama - Russia needs more pain. Americans by far support Ukraine.... most Republicans (60%) and a large majority of Democrats (80%). Support is only slightly diminished and the amount diminished can easily be reversed. There are two current issues: First, Trump and his fanatical following will be discredited and done with in November. Second, Biden has been a weak and timid leader, both for Americans and for the world, and has continually backed down when threatened by Putin. After the election we will have Harris, and hopefully she will be less intimidated by Putin and will let the Ukrainians defend themselves and fight their war.

[@allydea]

Don't stop there! Tell us more about the future (just as Fukuyama did many years ago)!

[@hazelwray4184]

Ukrainians? - Ukraine was torn apart in 2014, following the violent pusch by US backed Ukrainian Ultranationalists. Right Sector played a key role along with Svoboda. Right Sector claim to have coordinated the Odessa Trade unions building massacre. Dmytro Yarosh, the former leader of Right Sector, was hired by commander in chief Zaluzhnyi in 2021. Yarosh had previously stated that Zelensky would be hung from a tree if he implemented the Minsk agreements.

[@RobertoEarnywho]

US backed exactly how did they back them? Rather the sitting Ukrainian president Yanukovych went back on the decision by Verkhovna Rada to sign an agreement to become closer to the EU. So of course the population came out to protest this sudden change by their elected official. Something the populsce wanted was refused by the government, the protestors had a right to do so. Only then did russian backed sepratists show up the donetsk to agitate. putin clearly behind the mess by Yanukovych.

[@johnm7267]

More pain on Russia will mean more pain on Europe. Hitler tried and look what happened. The Russians are tough the Americans are not, though they think they are because Hollywood tells them so

[@JasonSpielberg]

America doesn't lead the world bro, not anymore. They're too weak for that shit.

[@Rona_Rose]

incredible stupidity

[@ВладимирРебкало]

Русские могут сделать очень больно .

[@NickoOlimp]

дякую що публікуєте оригінальні версії

[@marinmarinov6663]

Is that the same guy who portrayed the end of the story? LOL

[@larrybrus6209]

This thinking has destroyed Ukraine and a generation of its young men. Peace with neutrality in Ukraine!!

[@Mika-1971]

@@larrybrus6209 Russian invasion without provocation is the reason. It is sad 😢

[@Joe._Biden]

@@Mika-1971 without provocation lol. Are you real?

[@larrybrus6209]

@Mika-1971 Get real... without provocation!

[@luminyam6145]

@@Joe._Biden Without provocation

[@joellee6142]

@@Joe._Biden there was no provocation, they took crimea in 2014, this is where things really started, and ukraine had no way to take it back.

[@littleboy437]

OMG is He lost Totally incompetent and deceived

[@christopheryellman533]

Agreed. Many irrational and false statements. He is still living on his ridiculous end of history. He says "ordinary Americans have no opinions about these things". Untrue and arrogant.

[@HetkiPieni]

I like that you are not capable of pointing out a single thing, but rather just get triggered and say that he is wrong

[@christopheryellman533]

@@HetkiPieni He is wrong in too many ways to mention. Let's start with the foolishness of his major book The End of History. He argued that when the Cold War ended, the world had reached the "end-point of mankind's ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government." Worse than just completely wrong, the argument is arrogant and naive.

[@socrateos]

@@christopheryellman533 No he did not. Better read his book!

[@christopheryellman533]

@@socrateosI did not read the book, however, I did listen to a debate he took part in about the arguments in the book. The quote was taken from the book. It is a foolish and arrogant statement any way you look at it, and its predictions are not being borne out.

[@jefferyshute6641]

I am an American Republican. I wholeheartedly support Ukraine. There are many Republicans that are not part of the MAGA extremists that also support Ukraine. Part of the problem is that many Americans are disengaged from the war in Ukraine and don't know or understand much about the situation. It really is not covered much by the mainstream media here. Which is very unfortunate. Hopefully, that will change. Slava Ukraine! 🇺🇦 🇺🇸

[@davereynolds3403]

why not support peace ?

[@romanz9342]

"don't know or understand much about the situation" If you would know anything about the situation you would never support this war.

[@jefferyshute6641]

​@@romanz9342I was not referring to myself. I do follow and understand the situation. The more I know, the more I support Ukraine.

[@SnkHetz]

You are not a republican, you are just a democrat

[@Mika-1971]

​@@davereynolds3403 There would be peace if Russian would stop the invasion. Why support Russian invasion?

[@X9xredgkoa]

this guy was wrong nearly on anything he wrote since that "the end of history" bs

[@AHille444]

When people were saying "why are we sending 60 billion to ukraine when we need it here" I suorted that, but I now know almost all of what was given wasnt actually money it was equipment. Alot of "outdated" and surplus equipment.

[@UndercoverPirate69]

Not sure if I agree with everything he says. Also not sure about how he looks at the world and it's inhabitants

[@TheErazar]

дякую відео в оригіналі

[@dka618]

thanks

[@felipe-vibor]

He's advocating targeting civilians. This world has no rules, you do what you call evil does

[@johnm7267]

Japanese atrocities during the war. It seems like advocates the same

[@baddoggie101]

No, he did not advocate targeting civilians. He is saying Ukraine should be allowed to strike military targets in Russia so Russian citizens aren't so smug and complacent.

[@war-painter]

I did not hear that. Russia is targeting civilians in Ukraine however! All Ukrainians want is to defend themselves against RU missiles targeting THEIR civilian population, which Storm Shadow would do. They are designed to hit hardened bunkers where Ru missiles are stored at greater distances from Ukraine. Thats MILITARY defense.

[@felipe-vibor]

Listen again

[@jossiesh7649]

@@war-painter Russian did no target civilians. you are lying.

[@tenzinnordron9836]

Also, they are so cruel,to5(3 innocent people of Ukraine. Russia has many more people, resources and much better philosophy and so when are these pro polish Nazism types gonna see that it is like a 116 pound woman trying to fight,against the best men in a ring.

[@dougcane4059]

NONSENSE - Russia arose out of Kiev - it did not 'take' anything that didn't belong to it in the first place.

[@marymarlow3646]

You don’t care that Ukrainians like most of the rest of the Soviet countries have rejected Russian tyranny and want to be a European western style democracy. What you say actually means that Russia belongs to Ukraine.

[@homayounshirazi9550]

Mr. Fukuyama, are you now talking in abstract when you say Ukraine could still win by loosing? You are now talking in tongues when Russia has proven you wrong. Yes, your idea is so WONDERFUL THAT EVERY COUNTRY SHOULD HOPE FOR LOSING JUST TO PROVE YOU ARE RIGHT ! HAVE YOU HAD A MENTAL EVALUATION RECENTLY ?

[@carahiggs7157]

Excellent comment 👍🏻👍🏻

[@LFPAnimations]

I think if we polled americans nationally on Ukraine the vast majority would support Ukraine. However, Fukuyama is correct that there is a small but powerful demographic of people who believe Russia should win or we shouldn't interfere. These people used to be called useful idiots, I think we should bring back that term.

[@Burrburrcloud]

Whaat does a victory for Ukraine look like?

[@janebishop5885]

Professor Fukuyama is a calm abd intelligent voice of reason. Wish we had more like him

[@etoiledenoundi]

Fukuyama's home country got 'more pain' even as they were getting defeated in WW2, and guess from whom? America, into whose ass he is crawling today!

[@AENEAS2222]

ПОСИЛЮЄМО ДОНАТИ НА ЗСУ ❤

[@klarinuskuipers8999]

Should any politician that amplifies propaganda of foreign adversaries be registered as foreign agent?

[@Norbert2470]

He seems to be very well informed, and he is spot on.

[@hazelwray4184]

He's 'on the spot' - Lol

[@hazelwray4184]

Jeffrey Sachs Glenn Diesen Col Lawrence Wilkerson Chas Freeman Sumantra Maitra Anatol Lieven Nicolai Petro Richard Sakwa Alfred-Maurice de Zayas John Mearsheimer Daniel Davis deep dive Neutrality Studies Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft Alexander Mercouris The New Atlas Judge Napolitano

[@Mad_Dog_of_the_Regime]

He seems to be a delued moron who's better watch behind his shoulder in the future.

[@user-yq2wk6yg8s]

Spot on, I think you mean. If so, I agree.

[@carahiggs7157]

@@user-yq2wk6yg8s how would you know anything ?

[@gitwindoixphog613]

Fukuyama continuing his unblemished record of being wrong. Its sad how far Western Academia has fallen.

[@jasonteem9917]

Yes, yes, yes! ❤ THIS is a smart man.

[@carahiggs7157]

Compared to you an ant is smart 🐣🐣🐣🚽

[@IrenESorius]

100% 🇸🇪💞🇺🇦

[@carahiggs7157]

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[@janvanrenesse2118]

“Increase the pain Russians are suffering!” Yes, but Ukranians feel a lot of more pain and they do not stop fighting either. So this is a stupid plan. And if NATO do pain to Russia then Russia will do pain to NATO. I thought Japenes were wise people after hit by two atomic bombs.

[@WingkKong]

What do you expect they are controlled by the Imperial American Empire

[@WingkKong]

The same as the European

[@janvanrenesse2118]

@@WingkKong Yes indeed, the European "leaders" are the lackeys of US.

[@АндрейКаминский-г9в]

Храбрый импортный чувак готов сражаться и победить! Готов заставить Россию страдать! Потрясающий героизм)

[@urmasalas]

Russia suffers from itself. In its present form it is a scourge on itself and its neighbours. The Russians cannot run a country without stealing, so they cling to power because they would be imprisoned if they gave it up, but one day the leader runs out of ideas and the country stagnates, and then they have to resort to the ammunition of fascism to maintain popularity: internal and external enemies. And the Wunderwaffe: war. Who cares about the loss of human lives when one's personal well-being is at stake? It is not for nothing that the presidential term in other countries is four and five years, and not more than twice: a man's ideas run out, and a lemon squeezed dry does not run the country.

[@ZaraPoeta]

THANK YOU..... THANK YOU! FINALLY A MAN AFTER MY HART!..... EXACTLY what I said since day 1....strangely you'll be amazed how soon the despoot dictator get the message!

[@carahiggs7157]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💩💩💩💩🧠🧠🧠🪠

[@patrickvernon4766]

He can threaten an entire group online and not be censored why?

[@TurfSurf]

Agree 💯, GOP = Guardians Of Putin!

[@davisoaresalves5179]

Most intelligent man alive.

[@keto0303]

Biggest joker. Only cares about money.

[@jsaintr.i.r4018]

​@@keto0303Нравится Путлер 🤡🫡♠️

[@keto0303]

@@jsaintr.i.r4018 Not at all. Thats here in the West. Only care about money and have no values. Liberalism is to do whatever one wants, so that everyone can make money, in every way possible. No morals. Putin the Great!

[@keto0303]

@@jsaintr.i.r4018 The West is all about money, no morals. Putin the Great!

[@keto0303]

@@jsaintr.i.r4018 Only about money in the West, no morals. Putin the Great.

[@gb-xo6nf]

This guy is delusional as always.

[@davidshapiro292]

He basically just repeats what the warhawks and the media is saying, its nonsense.

[@DacianRider]

ok ruzzbot - Joined Mar 12, 2023

[@nigellawson8610]

Would Fukuyama be willing to risk a civilizational ending nuclear for the sake of the Zelensky regime? I am so sick of billions of dollars being poured down this rat hole.

[@user-yq2wk6yg8s]

Every approach carries risk. There is no way to avoid it. Doing nothing carries even bigger risks. That is why most of us in the west support Ukraine.

[@carahiggs7157]

@@user-yq2wk6yg8s only the idiots mate

[@donnacollins1356]

🇺🇲❤️🇺🇦 How can you negotiate with Ukraine giving up land What about the Ukrainians who live there Do they become Russian What would happen if it was in the US and they want to keep NY This is crazy to even ask and you do For Ukraine to give land to the aggressor who broke laws and invaded Ukraine Ukraine keep taking more of Kursk region and don't give them nothing

[@davereynolds3403]

maybe the “ukrainians” living in these “occupied territories” are mostly russians anyway ?

[@michaelpound4738]

Interesting discussions. The issue of what is enough pain is a factor that no one debates. Do we mean Russias, Putin's, Russian soldiers, Russian civilians.... Russian TV says that they are winning and Ukraine is withdrawing from Kursk. Eventually the lies of the state mean that nothing is believed.. Russian soldiers may just go home when the Rusgvadia do not get paid

[@carahiggs7157]

Hahahahahah utter crap 💩💩💩🥜🥜🥜🐣🐣

[@joaoalcideolenski4340]

Bravo!!

[@Kajpaje]

It's not that trumpet boy does not like Ukraine. Instead, trumpet knows Putin has something on him.

[@ГлебВерховский-п2р]

Nothing that Russia has on him would hurt Trump because his followers would not believe it. Trump simply agrees with Putin who is a fascist dictaror.

[@davemccrillis1470]

🤯🙄🤣

[@allydea]

Question should be: If NATO is a defensive alliance, concerned only with ensuring the security of its current members and not interested in power projection, what would be the incentive for NATO to add Ukraine as a member? How is adding a highly volatile territory to its list of responsibilities going to improve the security of its members?

[@RobertoEarnywho]

" power protection " ?? NATO is not power projection , that is an incorrect assumption. Rather it is " power in any place " of sny geography a NATO member occupies

[@war-painter]

Russia does not invade NATO countries?

[@davereynolds3403]

NATO a “defensive organisation” … kosovo? iraq? afghanistan?

[@aloragreenteam2343]

Spot on !!!

[@bigglesharrumpher4139]

I can understand US citizens wanting to 'pull back' from assisting Ukraine, but to actually want Russia to win? Why would they want that?

[@ГлебВерховский-п2р]

Trumpists want Russia to win because they think Russia is a conservative Christian country. In reality. Russian Orthodoxy is not a religion but a propaganda tool of the government. Russia would arrest Jesus Christ if he criticized the government.

[@davereynolds3403]

it’s called peace ☮️ it’s hard for americans … america has been at war for over a hundred years 🙄

[@johncale1849]

Maybe they dont like the facists from western Ukraine - maybe they are turned off by folks who glorify Hitler and his henchman Bandera??

[@bigglesharrumpher4139]

@@davereynolds3403 Peace and surrender are not the same thing.

[@DacianRider]

great interview. making orcs screech in the comments. thank you !!

[@carahiggs7157]

Ukraine is toast as you are well aware 😅😅😅😅

[@DacianRider]

@@carahiggs7157 extract my protein with your mouth and seethe harder !

[@ninastevanovic6808]

Does this interviewer has

[@emilu1954]

Ukraine is causing more pain now to Russia . The lost too many soldiers , more than Ukraine. What do you mean.

[@konfunable]

What are those sandals?

[@ВЛАДИСЛАВБородулин-ч3я]

It's end of history, anyway.

[@b.kune.4073]

Everything back to Ukraine.

[@carahiggs7157]

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[@2Dylandog]

Francis Fukuyama is very easy to listen to, and for the most part with clear reasoned ideas. But is he not just a little pessimistic about the likely outcome of this war, suggesting a ceasefire with some NATO guarantees? While I would agree that an outright victory in the field is unlikely for Ukraine, the possibility of internal unrest in Russia as the cost in human lives and resources mounts up is quite high, and Putin would be lucky to survive it. What happens afterwards is anyone's guess, but the odds favour an optimistic view of the future.

[@carahiggs7157]

You are clearly delusional like him

[@apkidlafirm522]

good man

[@cheesybread9592]

Psycho

[@DanAber-v9c]

What would a Ukrainian victory look like? Perhaps South Korea provides the answer. Although the hope of one free and united Korean nation did not come to pass, South Korea did emerge from the Korean War as an independent country with their independence guaranteed by treaty obligation. Although no peace treaty was signed, the 1953 Armistice has held up rather nicely. So, what to do for Ukraine right now? Immediate NATO membership coupled with an immediate ceasefire and the opening of negotiations would be a realistic start. This provides Ukraine with a guarantee of their remaining independent going forward and spares them a demographic apocalypse. This also presents Putin with both a fait accompli and a face saving off ramp to end the war. Even if negotiations were to go nowhere and the world is left with a frozen conflict that is still preferable to an escalating hot war.

[@PLASMAMATE]

There won't be a NATO membership for Ukraine though, that is unacceptable for Russia so there won't be peace talks.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

The OECD say Russias economy is growing faster than the EU.

[@Lombardo.diVino.-sd2iv]

​@@jpx1508The fun part is that you are covered in other people's vomit. Contemplate!!!

[@Norbert2470]

The OECD is quoting russian numbers. The inflation rate in Russia is currently at 8%. The interest rate for loans in Russia is at 19%. Russia is currently borrowing money at 16.16% (bonds 2039). Even a credit card offers better conditions. The Russians have currently a severe labor shortage. To attract men signing up as a basic soldier for one year the russian state offers up to $ 60.000. The average anual salary in Russia is about $ 14.000 per year. Adjusted for purchasing power, that would be like the US military paying young soldiers $193,000 in their first year. They will have to offer more and more over time. Russian spending on internal security and defense has increased by 30-40% annually since the beginning of the war. It now accounts for 35% of total Russian government spending. When the warehouses for old Soviet equipment are empty in about two years, this figure could rise. Military spending is part of GDP but it is spending on entirely unproductive assets. Military good need to be stored and repaired and will finally be destroyed. This kind of spending does not provide long term returns (like a school or a road). Russian weapons sales are going to zero. BUT: Until you run out of money you don´t have problems, you just had costs.

[@war-painter]

@@Norbert2470 - It’s gonna go KAPUT

[@romanz9342]

Germany is facing a full blown economic crisis

[@anjafark]

😂

[@bhakti.exchange]

this what Japan does to people. Look at that putin go in the direction

[@albertroundtree8546]

No one would have every thought of that! No wonder Fuckiyama is such an idol of the West.

[@JaneSoole]

Fukuyama...spot on.

[@johnfenechdoe3148]

The Sandals though

[@ВЛАДИСЛАВБородулин-ч3я]

Must be hot in the studio

[@nostradamus9608]

7:58 *It's not psychology per se, it's rubles and renminbi, first and foremost!* Follow the money...

[@macher1223]

The opinion of this old man is not relevant. His stance is not wise.

[@jacqueline56stuivenberg20]

Please stay in Japan

[@BBme]

Nice money. Part of the tax money gone to him. Is he willing to join the frontline? I bet he will runaway first

[@war-painter]

Guy is a bit elderly for the frontline. Be realistic. Younger soldiers are more useful. Boomers not helpful in combat positions.

[@BBme]

@@war-painter if he is old, he should shut up. when he speaks, he need to responsible. Young or old, its the same. dont tell me boomers can murder or old can slap you.

[@KukharyshynOleh]

Great man, but the topic isn't covered, mb try other questions next time.

[@egosunpauper]

not really smart Professor, he has no clue about history and consequences his idealogy may cause.

[@andibpunkt-o8c]

I don't always wear sandals without socks, but when I do, I interview Francis Fukuyama.

[@vitorlima1092]

Não entendi se ele quer um cessar-fogo ou se ele quer atacar a Rússia

[@user-yq2wk6yg8s]

From my reading of what he said, he wants Ukraine to be given the support to force Russia into a weak position where they have to come to the negotiating table and give up an amount of land sufficient to persuade Ukraine into an agreement. There's no easy road ahead.

[@mikkaras6940]

A great parrot. Some people will never learn.

[@VisibleToAnyone42]

What if I challenge this. “Make Russians feel the pain of war”, but, what if “we are Russian people and we used to suffering, we can withstand everything like our grand parents did!”

[@moggadah]

This is my conclusion. Even though Russia isn't at an American standard, the standard of living has increased since world war 2, especially in the big cities. Just like in the rest of the modern world, parents aren't really interested in having their children killed in war. There have been polls, the majority don't want a mandatory conscription if it means a possibility of getting killed. So they're relying pn contract soldiers, convicts and whoever they can coax into doing military service. This is the reason Kremlin is pushing the narrative that this is an existential war when it isn't.

[@jsaintr.i.r4018]

😂

[@war-painter]

What, the grandparents that got lend/lease from the Americans in order to fight in WW2? And food or they would’ve starved?

[@VisibleToAnyone42]

@@war-painter Russian propaganda demolished any of this information.

[@marieelliott8368]

Glory To Ukraine 🇺🇦 Down with Putin. 👎

[@carahiggs7157]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Hilarious !!!

[@Odetofreedom21]

Mediocre professor.

[@pfrohwein]

Anyone still supporting Ukraine is 100% insane !

[@jsaintr.i.r4018]

🤡🤡🤡

[@pragmatist165]

The absolute opposite is the truth

[@NoelCox-f5f]

More misleading information

[@waynegore5291]

Fukuyama, you should focus on what you are good at it, that is wood working. Not the stuffs you are bad at it, waste of yours and other people's time.

[@7vlads]

Fukuyama is only a name, having a limited clue of the conflict. Прибежали в избу дети, впопыхах зовут отца: обманул нас Фукуяма - нет истории конца.

[@peterharma8937]

What’s your point?

[@7vlads]

@@peterharma8937 My point is that Fukuyama is too ignorant to discuss this topic, he has got a limited vision of what is going on, though he can sell it to the western audience and alike.

[@paddyneville1535]

Na too are a fn discraceful and need to brake away from from us influence.

[@vasudevcharan8329]

Only propoganda.

[@eltigre6218]

Mr. Fukuyama should sue his barber for not shaving his beard properly…

[@kennedyboateng9004]

The professor is Bookish but not pragmatic

[@walsterd7490]

Welcome to Propaganda TV! This conflict can only end in one way..sit down with Russia and discuss ways to end the hostilities! Unfortunately Ukraine is falling into a trap..there is no way to win against Russia a nuclear auto sufficient country with a much bigger population! Is unfortunate I agree..but just like Europe is subordinate to US, Ukraine is under the geopolitical sphere of Russia :(

[@etoiledenoundi]

@walsterd7490: Interesting that those not standing at the battlefront are the ones shouting loudest! If Fukuyama thinks war is so 'great', I wonder why his home country decided not to have a big army for several decades after their section of WW2 ended? Maybe he thinks the World has forgotten that his country carried out some of the gruesome and unnecessary invasions during WW2! If he understood the history of his country, he should be hiding in the cellars of his home, not babbling nonsense here!

[@tomparatube6506]

This end-of-history guy is full of hype and baloney. As a political "scientist", his prediction was COMPLETELY OFF. Folks, what's so "scientific" about that!

[@PLASMAMATE]

He's not doing predictions about Ukraine, he's just explaining the US to this Ukrainian journalist.

[@tomparatube6506]

@@PLASMAMATE Sorry, I was talking about his famed "end of history" prediction article in the past.

[@alfonsasgrinevicius7477]

This war will force Russia to disintegrate. The war in Afghanistan 1979----1989 exhausted the mighty super large USSR. It fell apart in 1991.

[@carahiggs7157]

You think it's 1990 ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥜🥜🥜🥜💩💩🧠🧠🧠

[@yttean98]

Fukuyama has now become a war hawk besides he is NOT a military man how can he know that his plan will work. Many brilliant military men had failed before him. He should stick with what he knows best even that his theory of the "End of History" did not work according to plan.

[@davereynolds3403]

no clue about military strategy …

[@rodneythur8754]

Francis should run for President. He is intelligent. Oops, intelligent, good reason not to run for political office.

[@glennvanhoecke7798]

Haha, talking about "idealists" when himself is a extremist....🤣😅

[@atomholigral]

How does he expect that to be done? There are no means from the west to revert battlelfield dominance without escalating into a Russia-NATO conflict.

[@bergerportillo4955]

El señor japones se ve que no aprendio de la historia de su propio pais.