Incredible Mistake During Takeoff - American Eagle and United Express Embraer

[@barneyquinn3657]

A good reminder that next time I go for a drive in my car - I'll try to remember to start the engine first.

[@bunglejoy3645]

That's made me giggle uou cheered me up today taa😊

[@frankfarago2825]

My boss calls me, asking why I failed to report for work, I said I tried to pull out the parking lot but the engine was dead. I did not tell her, of course, that I forgot the start the bloody ignition. I was busy gabbing on the phone. Who can think of everything?

[@wjatube]

Seeing as those engines are mandatory to actually getting off the ground, to call these incidents 'minor' is a great disservice to everyone entrusting their lives to these airlines.

[@dheyes803]

Oh, yeah we’ve got to remember to start that other dang engine. MINOR my cow’s britches? Heck I don’t even own a cow. I guess a second engine was never mentioned in the checklist for run-up.

[@davidquinn6161]

Actually, any twin engine aircraft is perfectly capable of taking off with only one engine. There are plenty of examples of engine failure right after lift off. It would require increased runway length to get to rotate speed. Not an excuse, off course.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@davidquinn6161no, you can’t take off on one engine starting at zero or low speed. You couldn’t keep the airplane tracking straight down the runway and end up next to the runway.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

The mistake is big, but the incident is indeed minor. The pilots know instantly that something is wrong. Nobody was in any danger.

[@davidquinn6161]

The Embraer in the clip has tail mounted engines that are very close to the centre line of the plane. I think it probably could track track straight. I'd agree with you if the plane had wing mounted engines that are farther from the centre of the plane. Maybe some Embraer pilot could speak to that issue.

[@ROGER2095]

Takeoff checklist: 1 - Did you close the doors? 2 - Are the engines running?

[@jimwinchester339]

3 - Flaps? 4 - Thrust reversers closed? 5 - Elevator & Rudder trim good? 6 - Cabin pressurization set to auto?

[@johnquillman785]

@@jimwinchester339 7-passengers seated ? 8- Karens identified and secured ? 9- Doors are closed ? 10- Wheels attached and ground crew aren't ?

[@robynzelickson6164]

My first thought was that they hadn't turned on the #2 engine, or that it might be the flaps as I've read quite a few cases of that happening. But it's kinda derpy to forget to turn on the second engine 🙄 good job saving the day though.👍

[@dexterpoindexter3583]

0 - Are both pilots on the flight deck?

[@xizang3815]

No mention that maybe their landing gear was still down.

[@kevinmoffatt]

Don't checklists include ensuring both engines on line? Really good that in both cases the automation warned them although the huge swing to starboard at full thrust would have been a clue that something was amiss.

[@gordonbryan8381]

No.

[@Milesco]

Yeah, well, as I said a moment ago in another comment, I suspect that operating (e.g., taxiing) the plane on only one engine is not an approved (or at least, expected) procedure by the manufacturer, so there's no checklist item to verify that both engines are running before takeoff.

[@sludge8506]

@@Milesco It’s possible they were near the lowest amount of fuel required for their flight.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@Milescoit’s approved and very common.

[@Milesco]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Well, I know it's common, but I don't know if it's approved by the manufacturer. Which is why I said I _suspect_ that it's not an approved procedure. If you say it is, I'll take your word for it. But then why isn't it on the checklist?

[@anthonycapanas2932]

Before takeoff, wouldn't you scan the engine instruments indicate oil pressures, and EGT readings are both indicating on both engines? It probably been obvious and caught why one set of engine gauges are reading zero.

[@gordonbryan8381]

Yes.

[@pascalcoole2725]

Yupp, agree, though you do this after setting TO-Power.. so the TO Already is initiated then.

[@saboabbas123]

I always did, but some other pilots I flew with did not. Just like I ALWAYS performed a preflight, but others did not. I developed many technique items over the years that were not checklist items or required by company policy, but they were good headwork items. In addition, fatigue will cloud the sharpest mind. In my experience, most line pilots, especially regional pilots, are chronically fatigued.

[@gerrycorbino66]

One would think that a quick scan of the engine instrument cluster would have revealed that one of the engines had not been started.

[@dheyes803]

It’s one of those “duh” instances.

[@xizang3815]

See what happens when one THINKS?

[@JLange642]

Exactly! No rpm, EGR cold, numerous indications yet they don't SEE it, even though they look right at it! Glad I never fly regional flights!

[@cll1639]

@@JLange642 EGT, Lange. :)

[@TheTrebbieFan]

When you have a multi-engine rating, always remember you have at least two engines!

[@gunwrencher1566]

Glad the warning systems worked.

[@romanshubin650]

In this case if it's not, the aircraft would not be able to reach V1 speed shortly so anyway they would have cancelled take off anyway

[@imwhitewolf]

glad no aircraft were on final.

[@bluemoon5662]

@@imwhitewolf Was thinking the same. That's the trouble with short spacing between take offs and landings. Something can go wrong.

[@JamesStreet-tp1vb]

Something so rudimentary as starting your engines, forgetting to start them for takeoff is tantamount to forgetting to open your mouth when you're eating.

[@sducoco74]

No because they have two engines , it's like opening your mouth while eating and forget that you will also have to open your ass hole a few moment later and then you say "oh shit" 😆

[@lindabarrett5631]

Good analogy.

[@merlin8537]

Or forgetting to breathe ...

[@rcstl8815]

Trying to walk with one leg.

[@antonbruce1241]

Or pulling down your pants when you take a dump....

[@jmy6050]

Don't have any confidence in pilots who overlook such a primary and glaringly obvious condition as one engine not running. TWO of them in the cockpit and they BOTH missed it? Unbelievable.

[@heidiholiday1879]

DEI.

[@scottbarron611]

Sounds like a classic case of Confirmation Bias…You start one engine and prepare to take off thinking everything is as it should be even after completing your taxi and preflight checklists and notice everything is normal on the instrument panel. Given the circumstances and frequency of this oversight and how easy it seems for not one but two pilots to forget they didn’t start the other engine, perhaps airline management simply should change the procedures, suck up the extra fuel costs (which comes out of management salaries and not through increase in ticket costs) and require the pilots to start both engines immediately!

[@iceebearhawaii1735]

Actually, unfuukenbelivable!

[@DD-wd7ku]

​​​@@scottbarron611- 1. Everything couldn't have been normal on the instrument panel, the indication instruments for one engine would have been showing zero for revs, oil pressure, etc. 2. One pilot's main task at that stage was to monitor the instruments. What was he doing? 3. Does the aborted take off, even without any damage or casualties, cost more than the fuel saved? Something more than minor is wrong here.

[@davidmccann9811]

They were too busy going through the checklist to check how many engines were started.

[@haiwatigere6202]

Too busy going through the checklist to go through The checklist.

[@sagesaith6354]

@@haiwatigere6202 the engine start-up is probably near the top of the checklist -- they need another entry just prior to advancing to full throttle for take-off: "did you forget to start the second engine again?"

[@randyporter3491]

I was thinking back and I can't remember ever attempting a takeoff without starting the engine on my 182.

[@mikedriggers3635]

If they overlooked a big something, what small ones are they missing. Scary to think about.

[@Alta719]

Exactly, the checklists are there to, hello, be checked and verified. What else are they skipping over in their haste, or are there needless items in the checklists that are not needed maybe?

[@PeterSmith-bj4ml]

Isn't that why the best pilots, those with decades of experience, say never ever take anything for granted? Do your checklist like it's your very first flight, every time. Complacency eventually can be fatal. But even 'they' say, no human being is perfect. That's why you have a top co-pilot double-checking everything you do and vice versa.

[@TheJclanton]

Person sitting by the dead engine must have had a real WTF moment.

[@michael.forkert]

_It’s not a matter of checklist. It’s a matter of incompetence._

[@cremebrulee4759]

That's why they have checklists, to counteract some of the incompetence.

[@lowellmcafee791]

DEI Hires?

[@pamc4217]

​@@lowellmcafee791, No. WHITE men. Now, you are informed and have correct FACTS. BTW, this was 2010.

[@lbowsk]

@@lowellmcafee791 You must be a hoot to hang with.

[@robertp330]

The FAA should mandate that airlines start all engines after push back. I realize they are trying to save fuel, but they can leave one at idle and use the other for taxi power. This is a no brainer.

[@jimwinchester339]

They can still save fuel - - they just need to train pilots to start the remaining engines at a certain point on their checklist, or during the taxi. This was a big issue when the 747 rolled out. The only issue there was whether the 2nd pair of engines would warm up enough in time.

[@j700jam4]

Normally you would advance throttles and check engines stabilised before applying take off power.

[@TheHaratashi]

Exactly. They actually missed a couple of checklist items.

[@jkelly1a]

American Eagle pilots covering and lying about the mistake makes it more serious.

[@jamesseabolt5915]

That's what I was thinking.

[@Tonystark-ey8oe]

MPC❤everytime this guy brings us master piece and we learn something from it even a small a tiny mistakes can make a big disaster….Well big fan of your work buddy 🇮🇳

[@MPCFlights]

Thanks Tony!

[@Tonystark-ey8oe]

@@MPCFlights i wish you get lots of subscribers and achieve all your goal’s never forget me buddy✨❤️🇮🇳

[@robynzelickson6164]

That's why I watch them. One time, our plane coming in from Miami was late, so I was waiting at the gate with the pilot. I guess he saw that I was looking him over as I always do. Too old? Too young? Too tired? Hung over? Stoned? He asked me if I was nervous and I said yes. He said, "well you don't need to worry about me, you need to worry about those guys down there", pointing at the mechanics on the tarmac, fiddling with the underbelly of the plane. Never forgot that.

[@georgelovelace602]

Mistakes bring the blood that safety rules are written with…

[@EllisonLowrimore-y8h]

I have always had a problem with the one engine taxi to save fuel! I want to know if all systems are running long before I taxi.

[@billspooks]

"Pilots, as good as they are, they are not as good as you think they are." said by a former airline captain.

[@helpful5539]

I don't care what people think and I understand running the engines as little as possible and fuel saving, but I would want to know both engines have been run a decent amount of time to make sure they are ready to go. Get them both online as you are taxiing out. Cure most of the likelyhood of this kind of mistake.

[@16vr6]

We're all human... which is why we have checklists.

[@Milesco]

Absolutely. But I suspect that operating (e.g., taxiing) the plane on only one engine is not an approved (or at least, expected) procedure by the manufacturer, so there's no checklist item to verify that both engines are running before takeoff.

[@geoh7777]

@@MilescoProvision of checklists apparently is an airline responsibility.

[@Milesco]

@@geoh7777 You're saying the manufacturer has nothing to do with the creation of checklists?

[@thud9797]

I bet you there was nothing on the checklist saying verify both engines are running. Might be that way now! 🤣

[@ROGER2095]

@@thud9797 That'll be right after, "Did you buy enough fuel? Are you sure?"

[@donaldwilson5693]

One of the first call-outs after getting cleared for takeoff is "check power". The non-flying pilot is supposed to check the engine power setting and confirm other engine parameters are in the green.

[@AG-qh9hc]

Sorry my friend I’ve been a pilot with the regionals and the major airlines for over 25 years, and have never heard that “call out”

[@donaldwilson5693]

@@AG-qh9hc You're right. I believe it was "power set". In any case, the PNF is supposed to check the engine power and other engine instruments.

[@rcstl8815]

Yo, cap'n, what's this dial with zeroes on it mean? The other one has numbers?

[@KyloRenRadio]

I hear this said by Tony Shaloub's VERY laid back character in Galaxy Quest.😂

[@toddkallenbach3904]

and all four pilots lived in infamy in their airlines for the rest of their careers

[@sludge8506]

“Hey, aren’t you the guy that forgot to activate the second engine on that Embraer?” 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

Not if they were women, trans, POC, or neurodivergent. Then, they're brave survivors.

[@DukeCannon]

Nah, they were immediately hired by PIA

[@robynzelickson6164]

🙄😄

[@robynzelickson6164]

Awwww. That's not nice. And you missed racist. 😡

[@ggeorge4144]

This is complancency. These pilots get into a rut doing the same thing over and over again. As a charter pilot, flight instructor, and aerobatic pilot there is no room for complacency. When your job becomes a rut it's time to get another.

[@chuckg2016]

The instrument panel doesn't have gauges for a each engine?

[@Moo2oob]

How much fuel did they save by taxing out on one engine?

[@nickcaci7238]

As a kid in the sixties to this day I’ve been a fan of flight with many airline flights with my nose to the window and an ear for sounds. Then as still now we as alert passengers find so many pre-takeoff differences in start up and taxi out operations. Airlines have long allowed long taxis to be conducted with just one engine running to conserve fuel, conduct their check lists on the roll. I’m not a white knuckle flyer, but it’s always made me nervous to finally see the flaps deployed at the last seconds or an engine start up just before turning onto the runway.

[@JEHOVYIREH]

Execelente información video y fotografía aéreas siempre sobrante Mauricio Pérez saludos cordiales 💯🇨🇴✈️🙏🙌 bendicione . !Cuando puedes hacer el vuelo 66 de airfrance en algunos de tu canales ?

[@claytonsanders508]

Number of crew and passengers unknown??

[@thedevilinthecircuit1414]

Unknown because the FAA and NTSB didn't investigate. Only internal airline reports.

[@usmale49]

Great video and such beautiful "birds"...too bad they have such "ill trained" pilots! Thank you for uploading and sharing! ✈✈😊

[@Ukarumpa2005]

what pilot does not monitor their engine power as they start increasing power for takeoff? There are much bigger issues at hand here.

[@ADAPTATION7]

This can happen when normal workflow is interrupted. However, those dials up front aren't there just to be pretty.

[@Jman531]

Sounds like they need to put, [start 2nd engine] in the taxi checklist, if they are going to wait until they get close to the runway. Either that or stop all pilots from doing it this way. To be safe, make it the final taxi checklist item.

[@gordonbryan8381]

You may not be aware that pilots taxi on less than all engines when able to save fuel costs for their airline. Many FAR part 121 airlines have less than all engine taxi as a company required standard procedure. Pilots do not get paid extra for the fuel they save

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

I just don't understand how a pilot can NOT look at his EPR gauge when taxiing for takeoff. Wouldn't that be an important thing to look at during the start, run-up, taxi and takeoff? It would be easier if they just lit both engines before or during pushback. Doesn't engine 2 also run the electronics?

[@gordonbryan8381]

EPR gauges generally don't indicate any EPR during taxi, only when the power is increased above ground idle

[@ctm8633]

if you leave an engine off while waiting to take off and there isn't a procedure to make sure both engines are ready before take off then there is a greater than 0 chance that you will forget. So, this should not be surprising that these type incidents take place.

[@Iflew727]

I don't know which is more shocking, the pilots not checking the gauges, or the FAA calling it a minor incident!

[@tdr2101]

THAT IS FOR FUEL LESS CONSUMPTION

[@gerardmoran9560]

It is. And the airlines save thousands of pounds of fuel per day. Over my career I've done countless "delayed start" operations. I've never attempted a takeoff with an engine shutdown. The problem isn't trying to save fuel- whether it's for the environment or for shareholder value, it's a problem of experience and training.

[@ligeiasinistra879]

I always turn off the engine while stuck waiting for the freight train to pass. One day I forgot to turned on... Wow! Un momentito... I don't have a car! Well, you get the idea.

[@brianwood5140]

Today the engines, tomorrow the flaps. How hard can it be to check the two most critical systems?

[@jefferytokarsky1930]

Some checklist. Isn’t there any check on engine gauges?

[@davidwheatcroft2797]

Today, all checklists MUST be short, and IF interrupted, MUST go back to the beginning.

[@cremebrulee4759]

I think they have changed them so that they have sections, rather than one long checklist.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

maybe better for airlines to get rid of racism first!

[@pascalcoole2725]

Thats a good solution !

[@davidwheatcroft2797]

@@RaptorFromWeegeeRacism is an easy abuse. It is over used, and now is meaningless. Is part of the whole silly trans women thing - one claims to be pregnant. I was raised by a black woman, Zena. Chap called Mikhail, a servant, would walk 2 miles to buy me condensed milk when we were being starved at our isolated school - whipped with heavy duty electric cable. Never asked to be paid!

[@davidwheatcroft2797]

@@pascalcoole2725This is SO important! Forgetting slots/slats/flaps will KILL everyone on board. In the RAF, we had to know our checks by memory, and I always said mine out loud to increase my chance of actually dong them - still tried to take off with fuel cock closed once when rushing! Big red flag in front of my face and still missed it. Engine stopped as I lined up. Phew! In flying you CANNOT be too careful.

[@mmayes9466]

Do you have any videos of credible mistakes during takeoff?

[@MorganBrown]

Thank god for the warning light

[@stevesayre9363]

Do these aircraft have takeoff configuration alarms, and if so, is this situation (one engine started) a condition that triggers it?

[@MatyasArby]

Yes, but they don't check the engines, only parking brake and flap setting

[@byronjaffe518]

How did you find out about this. Is there a link with any report?

[@joeglennaz]

This might be a little more conceivable if it was a 747 with four engines you could possibly see for getting one of them I guess but as another convent mentioned, a scan of the instruments would show one is not running

[@eugeneosegovic6260]

Those are the kinds of mistakes I like to see in aviation. No one was hurt, nobody died, and the aircraft were not damaged. If taxiing on one engine is standard operating procedure, starting the second engine should be in the pre-takeoff checklist.

[@williamgreen5893]

It is instinctive to visually check the engine instruments (RPM,TGT,OIL PRESSURE) during engine start and when applying power for the take-off roll. No excuse for these errors.

[@evanlinn5869]

Definitely the lowest marks ever for situational awareness that didn’t result in personal injury or property damage. These “airmen” really had to work at these incidents.

[@robertfencl4401]

Only the best & the brightest? God help us all!

[@arribaficationwineho32]

We depended on AE to get to small town airport. Hated those planes.

[@JohnHill-qo3hb]

So I hope the preflight checklist has the statement, "Prior to Takeoff roll, be sure both engines are running". I'm not a pilot but the view of the second AC, even I could see that engine #2 gauges were not moving, I would think someone on the flight deck would scan the instruments for normal indications.

[@johnglasgow83]

How inept can they be? In the take off phase of the flight, one pilot should be looking at the engine instruments to see if there is sufficient power to get airborne.

[@Nivola1953]

There is a question that the FAA should have investigated, to prevent more serious accidents, were these pilots fatigued, therefore more likely to forget important checks? We know from history that these small airlines are keen to squeeze their pilots, to make more bucks. This “natural trend” has produced severe crashes with many casualties in the USA. Refer to Colgan Air Flight 3407 crash report, for more insight into the issue of fatigue.

[@johnjones5354]

Please tell me that these flight crews were fired immediately upon landing.

[@thedevilinthecircuit1414]

"Engine failure on number two." [Scans instruments and sees #2 RPM and EGT are both zero] "DAMN, that engine failed and cooled off fast."

[@adammcdonald798]

It isn't like these are three or four engine aircraft, they are literally forgetting to start HALF of their powerplants!

[@MVPaneeVino]

There were stories during the fuel shortages of 727s taxing with their middle engine shut down to save fuel and forgetting to start it before the runway and rushing to get it lit. Are they true? Don't know....wasn't there but I can see it happening.

[@frankfarago2825]

No worries, absentminded pilot mates, your union is stong and will not let ANYTHING happen to you, no matter what.

[@zk9058]

I thought the embraer 135/145 has a TO config check?

[@skippymon]

Ironically the TO config doesn't check number of engines running.

[@khtlon]

No excuses please. In both cases an unacceptable error of judgement. Hundreds of lives at risk

[@pascalcoole2725]

Nonsens ! During takeoff * the crew would notice lack off power on the engines, * Would notice lack of acceleration of the aircraft * Would notice not having reached the required TO-Speed at the spefiied distance. All reasons to abort the TO but they where warned by the TO-Config disagree. No lives at risk here. Beside, lives are at risk as soon as you buy an airline ticket.

[@robynzelickson6164]

Does the plane make a funny noise if you didn't start both engines, or is that dumb? 🙄

[@pascalcoole2725]

@@robynzelickson6164 It does (modern planes at least). It's called a TakeOff Config warning. If your flaps are not set, your trim position is out of TakeOff range and such. The warning system is usualy activated if one off the trottles goes beyond beyond reasonable taxi power and warns if one of the named parameters are not met. It's not dumb ! It's a usefull system as it saves lives. Most warning systems are.

[@cll1639]

Bullshit. The aircraft's warning systems alerted them immediately to an engine failure which was quickly determined to be due to a no-start. For what it's worth, an ERJ145 holds 50 passengers. And it wasn't judgment - in neither case did the pilots simply make a decision to leave one of the engines cold.

[@cll1639]

@@robynzelickson6164 Not dumb, but no. Probably not even audible in the cockpit, anyway, other than the warning from the engine-fail alert system.

[@djytonly5653]

Well, humans don't forget things by importance, but also by the level of stress or distraction. So, there were warning systems installed to avoid this becoming dangerous and those worked out within seconds. They worked out the problem and were safe. So, apart from the one mistake, everything was fine. Planes and procedures are designed in a way that a single error normally doesn't cause a deadly situation. And this philosophy worked out here. The pilots may have learned an important lesson and I wish them all the best for future.

[@JamesEmery]

They blamed a similar incident in 2021 on lack of practice due to COVID. I guess you can blame COVID on just about anything.

[@jbenthere627]

Airlines worldwide should ensure that flight crews do not communicate with the tower while a checklist is being performed. More so with approach control if possible. I've watched too many recreation videos where there were fatal and preventable crashes due to interrupted checklists, resulting in flaps and slats not being deployed, etc. Distractions can kill.

[@gordonbryan8381]

Don't know which "there" you have been to, but it must have not been in the air flying a plane talking to ATC. If a pilot were to tell a controller "stand by, we are doing checklists", you would find yourself sent to the penalty box on the ground or given holding instructions or never ending radar vectors prior to landing. If you flew for a living or even pleasure you would have learned this the first few times you flew.

[@sludge8506]

@@gordonbryan8381 He’s a Cub fan, so he’s probably a little slow. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@malcolmwhite6588]

In my opinion this is a flaw in the aviation industry (to call this a minor incident ) my background is petrochemical industry in that industry event such as this which would have high potential and from decision-making perspective is a major ,so would be treated as if it had a serious outcome and fully investigated which would lead to more widespread recommendations potentially leading to prevention of a full blown accident :imagine what it happened if they continue to take off roll -the aircraft may have veered off at high-speed or they may have attempted to take off and had a Runway overrun. Despite alarms the configuration or other alarm may not sound -this would not be the first time two faults occurred at the same situation

[@alexanderdavidson7837]

Yeah a full takeoff roll would never have properly commenced. It is serious but the ultimate risk to life would have been very low

[@sludge8506]

These planes didn’t *come close* to taking off. Not even close, champ.

[@dougkenny6548]

If you're forgetting to start an engine what else are you forgetting.

[@garymahony2844]

I am blown away by this … one of the main flying components on an airplane and both pilots and co-pilots don’t realise that they only have 1 engine running .. did they all turn up to work in just their shirts but no trousers 👖 🤦‍♂️🙄 .. thank god the safety alarm worked on both occasions

[@RETlREDAVIATOR]

START ALL ENGINES AFTER PUSHBACK OR BEFORE TAXI! Taxiing requires a crews full attention and adding starting an engine(s) to the mix is a serious distraction!

[@pdalia100]

What ever happened to checking oil pressure and engine temps?

[@aliciamontefusco8633]

Neither of the pilots monitoring noticed something amiss with the cockpit instruments and screens? Very bizarre situations!?!?!

[@WWPlaysHoldem]

Pilot monitoring is the Captain, WTF was he monitoring?

[@thedevilinthecircuit1414]

Skirt length on the skywaitress.

[@TheHaratashi]

He was monitoring his smartphone like everyone else does nowadays.

[@johndormer9297]

These are the last pilots to skip checklist items ever again. If you are ever on their flights the check lists will be thoroughly followed. The humiliation alone has made them more professional and I believe that.Flying in todays world is fraught with distractions. Everyone and everything works against a safe outcome. Hence things like check lists. Good lessons learned here.

[@bobmillerick300]

I'd be scanning the engine EPR outputs to make sure both are running normally. But that's just me.

[@dcav448]

I have a hard time buying that one of the pilots was going through checklists. But hey, what do I know, maybe they don't actually have checks for that second engine on the takeoff check.

[@jamescain6414]

As the witch doctor said, "If you want your boomerang to come back, you first have to throw it."

[@robertfencl4401]

Time to shut down the Kmart School of Aviation!

[@cot5thorchid551]

The EICAS or engine gauges would have clearly shown you an anomaly, that is if you care to glimpse them before taking off. I like to see good oil pressure on any engine or car I use.

[@norbertdx]

7:53 The seasoned pilots blame COVID.

[@rogergeyer9851]

There are mandatory checklists for MANY things for virtually all commercial flights. The more problems I see (some of them including fatal crashes), where the flight crew ignored the checklists, the more pissed of I get that there aren't FAR more severe sanctions for this. It's one thing to have a surprise equipment failure or get confused by an emergency. It's quite another to not bother to do your job when you have the lives of many people in your hands.

[@megadavis5377]

There should be NO OTHER CHECKLISTS to perform until after all engines are started. How in the hell can you complete a “Taxi Checklist” when a needed engine hasn’t yet been started? Sheer madness!!

[@yabadabado7442]

Here's an idea. Make it mandatory that both engines must be on when leaving the gate. Oh, but we gotta save money on fuel. I guess gambling with people's lives in order to save money is worth the risk.😊

[@sdlcman1]

All the airlines go to extraordinary lengths to save fuel and prolong the lives of the jet engines. These kinds of planes make a lot take-offs and landings everyday.

[@gordorjohnson]

These are not isolated incidents . This has happened at every airline that taxis on one engine as a standard practice. It happens.

[@oneworldawakening]

Bad enough to forget, but why didn't they read the gauges??

[@wallacegrommet9343]

It doesn’t get better repeating the same mistake

[@jamesdermont5064]

Always make sure all engines are running.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

2:56 I dunno why people FLY between LAX and Lindberg. The DRIVE isn't a lot longer - perhaps 2 hours IF THAT - unless you hit a LA traffic jam. BTW - why is this video showing BOTH engines running?

[@billhillegass946]

Makes you wonder if when landing do they check for 3 green or assume all is good .

[@iamme453]

Isn't there some kind of indicator that only one engine is operational?

[@merlin8537]

At least they heeded the rnginr alarm...

[@rogerbixley6911]

This looks like an animated video...please correct me if I´m wrong.

[@duanebidoux6087]

Wow, I'm glad they didn't actually do it right the first time and make it into the air as a result. Hopefully they woke up after, but it's certainly apparent they weren't the first time. They literally could not have even looked at their engine gauges before roll. So, there's forgetting to start them, and then forgetting to do the ten other things along the way that would have instantly clued you in.

[@colinmccarthy7921]

Mistakes do happen.I was glad to see no loss of Life,Etc..

[@marksc1929]

38000 ft ……“ these engines are running great !! .. can’t even hear them !! “

[@Robert-fv3vn]

PreFlight checklist are written in blood

[@psalm2forliberty577]

Don't be hard on these guys. We ALL make mistakes right ? Like the other day, I tried to leave home and after 20 minutes in my driveway, the unchanging scenery reminded me, I forgot to start my engine. MY BAD !!!

[@johnwhitmore5408]

When you board a commercial airliner, who have no idea who is in the cockpit or how competent they are. A scary scenario.

[@davidmashburn717]

I have spent more hours than i care to think about flying as a passenger. That does not qualify me as a pilot, so I'm not speaking from experience. I'm sure the work load from push back to take off is pretty intensive, working through checklists and communicating with the tower. But, it would seem to me the pilot monitoring would immediately notice that one engine is doing nothing. After all, the PM is looking at his panel and ensuring everything is in norms, so how he overlooked this is puzzling to me. At the same time, it would be helpful if the checklist included a line to ensure all engines are running.

[@gagagoopy]

You've gotta be kidding me. You forgot to restart the other engine? I'd think that should have been 1# on your takeoff checklist.