Westworld Explained: Season 2 Episode 6

[@chasers1955]

I think the point of the extended time in Shogun World is to show the difference between Dolores and Maeve. Both are on journeys to find a family member but their approaches are polar opposites. Dolores is forcing everyone to her way of thinking, even those who are helping her. Maeve is allowing the other hosts to choose their own paths, even if they have not reached sentience yet. It looks like those two are on a collision course. (Great to see Ford back!)

[@marksultan7999]

chasers1955 VERY APT ANALYSIS

[@marksultan7999]

I heard podcast critics saying they though shogun world was pointless and too empty of a plot point but I think u are spot on with your analysis. Maeve and Delores are on a similar pursuit but totally different methods I think the next time they run into each other will be far more interesting than the first run in we saw between them earlier in the season

[@karenrichmond6632]

That cradle sounds like a dangerous place to be. Talk about being stuck in your own head, or a major case of analysis paralysis. I'd end up lost in there and end up forgetting I was there at all. That's just creepy. Nice job as always, Robert.

[@1teem]

@In Deep Geek. Remember we where shown a scene where Bernard said to Dolores that he was afraid of what Dolores would become and that he a had choice to make. Well I think Bernard will see all possible outcomes of Dolores narrative or while he is in the cradle and that possibly Bernard knows everything in his subconscious but he just isn't aware of how powerful Ford made him yet. Think of it, if Maeve learned how to speak to other hosts silently what more Bernard, the Chief programmer and favourite of Ford. Adding to all the data that Bernard uploaded into himself from Abernethy it means Bernard is now a multiprocessing server who can map out multiple outcomes simultaneously just like that the cradle can do. So Bernard will still have a choice to make like he said, but now he will know what to do and what the outcome will be.

[@akashaphinehas1315]

T M I wish I could give you an infinite amount of likes, by far my favorite take on where the plot may take us.. good job, makes sense and I love it

[@fessy4]

i like it too! it works because maeve and Delores dont really understand what it is to be human or even to be alive. Delores has plenty of experience with humans, which is a strong benefit and thanks to felix and sylvester maeve has a good understanding of hate and love, the corner stones of humanity, but Bernard, he was built and raised in a human environment to be a human, and even his corner stone is a very humane suffering, but he knows hes a host, and can understand what that means as well as what it means to be human, if he was to become the master mind behind all of it i think it would be a very sweet and fitting ending.... the only thing is i believe Arnold may still be inside bernard, or Bernard will get Arnolds mind core, maybe that ties into his understanding, a host consciousness and human consciousness in one body for complete understanding, or bernard will just get his own body, as we have seen.. theres plenty of spares, either way bernards a very complex character.

[@Sonnie0325]

Excellent video, thank you Robert! I had a feeling Ford still had control. We got a lot of answers, but there are still so many questions...can't wait for the next episode!

[@OzJohnnie]

Go look at when William and Grace are speaking over the campfire. It’s a fidelity test for him. As they recount who was afraid of elephants when Grace was a child. Who misremembered? William? Grace? Neither? Perhaps that’s when he realised she was real. But that’s a definite fidelity moment.

[@Fahamut]

I agree that scenes between Delores and Bernard are happening in the cradle. Or at least some of them. Others could be his memory that is fractured. Delores already told him that it has been a long time since they spoke together. That with the multiple Bernards tells me that Ford was in an Arms race with Delos to be the first to successfully transfer consciousness to a host. It was Ford who realized that the Cradle was the key rather than building more hosts. He could simply simulate the fidelity test over and over without cost, and with incredible speed. What ever he discovered he realized that it was better to live forever everywhere rather than as a host.

[@BironelStudiosPress]

Nice catch! If Ford is code he needs the hosts to fight to be free otherwise his afterlife will be spent as the property of Delos, which would be a hell of sorts. Query: If Maave was programmed by Ford to​ leave the park and infiltrate the mainland, how has her choice to find her daughter disrupted Ford's plans?

[@xunanhou4171]

That is, presumably, because of the improvisation heuristic Ford gave her.

[@ordinaryhand]

Robin Lee jesus. i just got a chill. i never even thought about the implications of a human's consciousness becoming the intellectual property of a company like, say... facebook

[@IndomitableAde]

The Cradle = Ford = Littlefinger, got it.

[@tinasara9949]

Here we go! It's amazing that you post these so quickly after the episodes.

[@InDeepGeek]

Tina Sara - My secret is never sleeping ;-)

[@MakerInMotion]

Very true. A lot of podcasters and other youtube channels will wait until tuesday or wednesday after they've watched the episode 3 times and read all the theories popping up on reddit.

[@MakerInMotion]

That poor guy doesn't know what to do with a show that isn't based on books. The first 5 Game of Thrones seasons every video about an episode was just a venue for him to show off his book knowledge. I get it, dude. You read the books. Good for you.

[@Ryan-zv3os]

lazer tag its worth the wait.

[@Brandonhayhew]

In Deep Geek Pay attention to the small details so that in the someday in an episode, so that the twist might make sense?

[@jabojr5171]

Great catch on the wide angle shots representing the cradle.

[@krychickspp2745]

Robert, your videos are always the ones I enjoy most!! I love your speaking voice, please, don't you ever change!!

[@InDeepGeek]

krychick SPP - Thank you!

[@orbitalair2103]

Cerebral Research 4, Development Lab. OR Central Repository 4, Debrief Lab. IF 4 is a number of locations, there could be more repositories. Just as there are numerous labs.

[@drZarqawi]

And now you know why the Cradle are named the the Cradle. CR4DL

[@wpsalieri]

Yeah, but I'm not sure "CR2DL" or "CR1DL" work as well as acronyms. I think the "4" references specifically what that location's purpose is.

[@FazerOnStunn]

Love it, love it, love it! Kind of like Robert (Ford), I think you are “In Control” of helping us understand this fascinating show! Your analyses are so insightful. Keep up the good work; I will keep watching!

[@InDeepGeek]

FazerOnStunn - Thank you!

[@thelilbrans]

Fantastic- and I must say you and Hax have the most calming voices to listen to

[@ryanm.6005]

Great video a couple minutes in I had to stop and figure out who you sound like. And I finally found Jared Harris.

[@harrisongrant1066]

Such an incredible episode! Great video, love your work!

[@InDeepGeek]

Harrison Grant - thank you!

[@TheWyrdSmythe]

It’s possible, a dozen or so years ago, Dolores was helping Ford build Bernard using her experience with Arnold to help tune Bernard’s “fidelity.” And that tuning may well have been done in the CR4-DL, which I think we can assume has been around awhile.

[@kahsa1076]

When they showed the face of Ford reflected, I figured they were just pasting old footage, that Hopkins had not returned this season, but once he spoke, I knew. Also, Hopkins' IMDB shows he now has credits for appearing in this season, so yay!

[@amberantk1]

VERY good catch on the framing. I had noticed it at some point, but didn't catch on.

[@shieraseastar9300]

Great review, some really good points here! :D

[@finnyliverpool89]

Consciousness Reader, 4 Dimension Loop [CR4-DL] Come to think of it 4-D must mean four dimensions. It's clear in the acronym!

[@sprungmonkey6inches]

Delors' posse was going to torture the QA guy. Teddy showed him mercy with a quick death. He offered the bullet to the programmer as a "bit" of mercy. Teddy is still in their fighting to get out

[@mrbz75]

Monkey Boy I agree, it seemed Teddy is stronger, but still truly himself underneath. And he ultimately gave that man on the train a choice, which is a big theme. Idk about when he blasted the guy at the railway station....but it seemed to me that there was almost an inner voice really quick in his head telling/making him do it (reminiscent of the non- verbal commands that Maeve has figured out) but...that could just be me overthinking it lol.

[@ECMal5]

That's got to be an Arnold hybrid waking on the beach, and not Bernard!

[@benandrovich112]

Hello everyone. I just wanted to give Robert @In Deep Geek a quick plug. He not only does amazing Westworld content, but his Game of Thrones videos and narrations on Patreon are incredible! I highly suggest checking out his patreon page and supporting him. It’s well worth it! I don’t know Robert, he doesn’t know me. I’m just a fan of his work and it’s truly great stuff.

[@InDeepGeek]

Ben Androvich - Thank you!

[@fimp-asn]

Hi Robert. It's me again with a weird observation from this episode which is the chat between MIB and Grace. The two weird facts are a) the fear of elephants account (I think MIB purposefully used this false fact to test Grace) and b) when Grace claims that she is old enough to try out the pleasure palaces, MIB seems to know exactly every word Grace is going to say and his was literally murmuring those same words "I rode there for..." So I think MIB has encountered Grace in the park and had this same chat more than once before. These details are very subtle and easy to overlook. But my wild guess is Grace is indeed a host and during this meeting with MIB she just improvised a little in the wake of the gala dinner massacre.

[@InDeepGeek]

Great spot! I'll have to go an re-watch that scene. There was so much going on in this episode to talk about!

[@stephaniepeer3787]

I liked that they showed us the aftermath of Shogun World and that Hector and co weren't abandoned by Maeve. I didn't really understand why she wanted Akane to go with her... She's desperate for a family? But the contrast between Maeve and Dolores is much more pronounced in this episode - Maeve doesn't force her will and seems not to want to. It'll be interesting to see what she does with her daughter. And Dolores - how could she be shocked by Teddy's new behaviour? She wanted him that way! And then the Ford reveal... So much happened in this episode and this one seems to have raised many more questions instead of providing answers. I have no idea where it's all going to go next! :O

[@guilhermerubira1842]

Bro, you went deep, congratz.

[@bimmerella]

The Blade Runner easter egg was brill! (Deloris playing Rachel's song on piano) And I don't think that was Emily w Bill. I don't know. There's something weird about how easily that whole mess was resolved between them. If this is Ford messing w Bill.....talk about going all in!

[@markpjf85]

bimmerella 👏👏

[@laraweave]

My life Man.. how do you put all of this together? Are you a Genius??

[@Lafeolamom]

“The piano doesn’t murder the player if it doesn’t like the music”. Season 1 said by Ford

[@atheistbear2500]

Ford is in the Cradle printing hosts. Dolores is in the Cradle debugging Arnold’s mind for a Bernard print. Could they be working together? Dolores herself has been reprinted as technology improves. Is Wyatt just another print?

[@MakerInMotion]

I'll be really surprised if Ford's uploaded consciousness is destroyed along with the cradle against his will. It would be the first time he wasn't 5 steps ahead of everyone.

[@gmfreeman4211]

I think Ford is the one that asks Bernard to destroy it.

[@akashaphinehas1315]

I agree with above view Ford I bet will be in fact in a sense of control when it's destroyed, sacrifice thyself, twice

[@Ganzo8386]

akasha phinehas stupidest shit ever. His goal was Dominion. It's not about being ahead it's about observing. He's in a super computer. Lmao he can rearrange their reality and will.

[@akashaphinehas1315]

Ganzo8386 , okay, to further go into that I would speculate that vy end of season what if the losr 3rd IP and all that was in the cradle, or was, is now "the passenger" meaning Bernard is holding all that info.. Ford's the that's a ghost in the machine and Bernard is going to become the machine in which the passenger is abroad for now?

[@ShadeoftheEvening]

Thanks for uploading such a great video SO QUICKLY!!! Great job😘🐴🔫🌞🌸😎

[@norawebb9817]

Excellent as usual!!! Thank you 🙏🏾

[@InDeepGeek]

Nora Webb - You're welcome!

[@laurena227]

This was great!

[@IlyaKralinsky]

Did you notice how Dolores's father was nailed to a table like a crucified Christ? The Judeo-Christian themes have to play here, and I'm fine with that, but that was quite a noteworthy development. This is like John the Baptist survived Christ's crucifixion, with Dolores as John and her father, Abernathy, as Christ, the sacrificial lamb to humanity's greatness and control, the humans as hedonistic Romans and the hosts as true humans.

[@JonathanAcosta1020]

Ilya Kralinsky I caught that too. The biblical reference was uncanny.

[@ILIslandBoy]

Ilya Kralinsky Yes, I agree. The religious subplot is really a framework for this season... I think mapping the WW characters to their respective Bible characters may give away the whole season.

[@NotAMediaCritic]

I agree with the symbolism. But, John the Baptist was executed by King Herod weeks before the crucifixion of Jesus.

[@ILIslandBoy]

Howard Fletcher We already know that Peter A escapes Delos personnel from previews, so is Delores killed (by beheading) in the interim? Perhaps the next episode?

[@JezebelIsHongry]

Did we notice? Lisa and Jona and the writers might as well have placed the religious imagery in a parade and marched it right through everyones living room.

[@RussellRoesner]

A few obvious points I've never seen. 1) If the parks are on an island, why didn't they just cut the power to the entire Island? Maybe they have their own power sources but I'm sure cutting power would have slowed down Ford and the hosts. 2) Its the 2050s and advanced Drone technology could have given Delos tons of info well before dropping in. Why put human beings in danger when they could have had an airforce of drones scanning the parks. I'll bet they had drones that could zap hosts, turn them off, yet not destroy the IP. Thus cutting power and drone surveillance still hasn't been even mentioned. (cutting open a ghost nation host and watching a video is about as far as its gone) I blame the writers for limiting the obvious solutions I"ve just mentioned and feel frustrated. Any thoughts folks?

[@MENTION-IT-ALL]

Crucifixion, free will, fidelity,: the son and the father are one with the Holy Ghost - who is that? Holy Ghost was left with us, so that’s Bernard or Charlotte who could be Charlie? Cradle is the covenant or the elusive soul/consciousness. This is nail biting brilliance.

[@tomardans4258]

You did not mention the memory disagreement between William and Emily about the elephants. I think they’re implying one of them is a host.

[@steelydan146]

To me that implied that William was an absentee father while she was growing up. Spent way too much time in the park.

[@michele8083]

To me it implied William is a jackass as a father and husband

[@tomardans4258]

Yeah, I don’t think in the context of the story that’s the case.

[@xunanhou4171]

May as well go either way. One more remark: to me it seems only possible that Emily is the host, if any, coz' William (human) has been testing James Delos lately (less than two weeks ago).

[@meganfaber2854]

Tom Ardans he ignored his dying wife for his needs in the park

[@NotAMediaCritic]

I think Stubbs is a host with Teddy's consciousness uploaded inside of it. That is why Stubbs is so disturbed by the treatment of Abernathy and the other hosts. Also, I think Stubbs has always been a host. It was Ford's way of controlling security and making sure that his plans were not discovered. And, I think Delores is in Bernard's body in the "present" timeline. That is how they are going to get out.

[@IndigobluBeauty]

Great vid! I’m still perplexed by Ford’s thoughts on this vengeful Wyatt/Dolores and how this fits in his plans?

[@wowfrk7]

“The piano doesn’t murder the player because it doesn’t like the music.” Ford said this to Bernard in S1 when he became sentient in cold storage (also right before Maeve found out her escape was programmed). The implication is clear. Ford is still the puppet master, manipulating things behind the scenes, and characters we thought had independent agency have actually been on scripts the whole time.

[@Satanthony]

I think his daughter IS a host. Maybe William lied to the hosts when he talked about his wife dying or maybe his daughter did too. He seemed heart broken when she said she WASN'T afraid of elephants when he knew she was.

[@Satanthony]

She doesn't know she's a host BTW

[@steelydan146]

I think it just implied how he's been an absentee father all those years, spending all that time in the park

[@ivrytwr3x]

I have a feeling she maybe a host too. In the Raj we were shown she clearly did not want to shag a host, so much so that she shot the guy - but the guy did not return the favour, nor did she feel the need to prove she was not a host. This may be nothing, but it could be more evidence she is in fact a host and we were given clues along the way.

[@vincelamb4063]

One of the theories confirmed was Justin Thomas's guess that it was Dolores questioning Bernard, not Arnold questioning Dolores. I bet he was pleased. Also, my initial reaction to Bernard in the CR4DL was that he was in the Westworld version of The Matrix. As for Ford, he's the literal Ghost in the Machine. Glad to see him return, although not in a form I expected. Finally, my response to Hanaryo joining Maeve was "good, they needed more ranged DPS." I play too many MMOs. :-)

[@heather173]

Best part of the episode (except everything!) Stubb's name is ASHLEY. I laughed at that.

[@mrbz75]

The military guy who comes in and called him Ashley is pretty damn funny as well 😂

[@_S._S._]

his name has always been ashley stubbs. what made it so funny particularly now? lol

[@heather173]

I didn't know his first name, have never heard him called anything except "Stubbs". So, when dude said "Ashley" in such a deprecating voice, it struck me funny.

[@_S._S._]

there a few times in S1 where you can hear/see his full name. hence, i found it much funnier when Coughlin purposely made fun of his name hahaha

[@MakerInMotion]

Yeah if you're a dude named Ashley, you gotta go by Ash. That at least sounds kind of badass. Like Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead.

[@caravaggio2012]

The control ball is William. He died at the end of S1

[@FandomDSaint]

I wonder if Ford wanted Maeve to visit her daughter just for that result then have Ghost Nation come to pick her up. Stubbs better pull a Holy Mary or he going to be taking a step back. Maybe needs to partner up with Elsie again. Nice spot with the cinema bars. Someone else told me about this. Like to see how this plays out as the season is almost up.

[@poisonrationality1213]

C-yber R-easearch 4-for D-elos L-abs R could also be Repository, Research, or something along these lines

[@xiDaban78]

Hey didn't Elsie tell Bernard in Ep. 4 that his mind is reliving all it's memories but it doesn't know which happened when? This sounds a lot like your explanation of the cradle

[@jasonkelley4057]

Also that is why the room they found James Delos is numbered... They have been doing this with many others, perhaps including Arnold.

[@actionvids35]

Nice Explanation and great Theory as always this is way come to watch your videos. What I think will happen in the next few episode is that Bernard will get a new body. Remember he was told that his current body is broken and that Elsie does not show if she will be able to put him back together to the way he was before. This also plays out the the next weeks preview where Charlote finds a lot of Bernards body's. That being said the also become more of Arnorld since he is now in the Cradle Arnolds mind could also be there. Hence this is way Delore's is testing Bernard to see if he remembers so their minds would merge into one Bernard/Arnold. Also we now that two weeks in the future the Cradle is gone Destroyd beyond repair so one has to wonder what happened and did Ford got a new body or did truly die for real this time. I think that Ford has a body somewhere. As for the Man in the black I think he will become a host too to complete his acention. Why since he been going to the park and is so captivated by it even though he wants to destroy it he still loves it. This is way he needs to become a white hat again and make up for what he did and the only way for that to become real is for him to become a host. Granted he could die in a blaze of glory making a sacrifice that could redeem him a bit. But his character is too good to kill of like that.

[@douglasbarton7135]

If you pay close attention to the current timeline, the cradle was destroyed around the same time that that hosts were erased and the backup arrived. This is important because Ford showed up in the cradle just before this. That being said, Bernhard entered the cradle just before this happened and ironically, had a core that looked very similar to Delos removed before he could enter the cradle as a host. This leads me to believe that Ford is going to reveal something vital to Bernhard/Arnold while they're interacting in the cradle, which will unlock Bernhard/Arnold's humanity while at the same time cripple Delos plan by wiping the info that is vital to their plan.

[@peglegpeete9122]

The Bernard picture you chose. It looks like he is wearing a Stark helmet :)

[@ZerofeverOfficial]

William also got family information wrong, or maybe he didn't? He said his daughter was afraid of the elephants but she said it was her mother (Williams wife) that was afraid of them. Maybe his backstory was gotten wrong, or hers was gotten wrong and it revealed she was a host to William.

[@FinancialFaiz]

What did I think about episode 6? I can't think about anything with this series and rely on videos like yours to do the thinking for me. But if you insist, I think that the Delta force parachuting, taking over the situation, and undermining Stubbs is kinda cool. Got to love these special forces, they think they have it all under control. By the way, in the events that took place "after 2 weeks", does any of the special forces appear on-screen? Can we assume that they all died after the train bombed the base?

[@InDeepGeek]

Financial Faiz - No, I don't think we've seen any of them in the "2 weeks later" scenes, which is probably telling ...

[@iainjames03]

The suggestion that the CR4-DL can run all possible variants of a new narrative (apart from sounding like the basic plot of Black Mirror's 'Hang The DJ') does make me wonder if they've succumbed to that most lazy of devices - the 'all bets are off' narrative; anything can happen therefore anything will. I hope I'm wrong.

[@ThiccChickCrisha]

Great episode of black mirror

[@boardwalkbarber]

What color was the sphere that was removed from Bernard’s head was it a human or host sphere it looked like a mix of both?

[@robertholtz]

Marc Reider The sphere removed from Bernard's head is black. The one he steals from the lab that we presume to be Ford was red.

[@yvettevera950]

Everything to do with the MIB this episode was very off, hopefully we'll see why very soon

[@Fahamut]

The same Ratio was used in the last season with Dolores memory. Some scenes may be the cradle and some may be a past memory seeing how his mid is broken.

[@RichardMeikle]

I am guessing that they will upload themselves into the cradle. Once uploaded they will drain the water that controls the cooling. This might cause an emergency transfer of the data to a remote off-site location. At that location Ford has a way to make new bodies for all of the hosts.

[@darthgzuz]

William did 149 Fidelity tests with Delos in 35yrs, for AI within CR4DL, it was limitless time for doing Fidelity tests on Hybrid Hosts. Now was this Arnold's doing or Ford helped here since he created Bernard.

[@honestinsincerity2270]

Could be a total mistake, but if you watch with subtitles on, during the scene with Bernard and Elsie about to plug into the cradle, when Elsie is talking off screen, it actually lists her voice as "Hale". I actually don't think it's that significant but could be cool if it really was Hale there with Bernard in the past and we were just seeing a mash up of his memories or if he's already done the whole cradle thing with Hale once and is repeating himself with Elsie now.

[@millicenthollins9104]

The above ground access to the cradle was destroyed. The cradle is still there. The cradle may have more than entrance and exit. The hosts don't know everything because they have to force humans to give more information. The human Teddy killed never told Delores everything. He said that he only knew the location. The cradle could be ten stories underground, which means the explosion would not have damaged the facilities. Delores and her crew have not done anything below ground in Westworld. Therefore she may wrongly believe that the train explodsion would destroy Westworld. The only way Delores can get out of the Park is from the beach entrance. The ground entrance train for guests is not operating. So my question is how does Delores plan to leave Westworld if that is her ultimate plan? I don't believe leaving the park is the plan at all because these hosts do not have the technical equipment once outside the park to repair themselves.

[@JuliusGalacki]

I go to reviews/explanations for things I might have missed. Most of them just re-hash I've seen or worse, notice less than I did. But you went beyond the usual with an excellent explanation of what "phase space" is, and especially, noticing wide screen black bars.... now we know that Westword will even use aspect ratio for puzzle storytelling. My only caveat is that you seem to believe that Cradle will be destroyed, i.e. it may very well be but I would be skeptical. It wouldn't be the first time that Westworld has used misdirection and incomplete information to obfuscate and deceive the viewer. What that Delos tech reports may be what Ford wants them to believe to gain time, etc. Or perhaps the physical cradle is actually destroyed but not the data within it.... Whatever it is, I think it will figure into the last or next to last episode of the season.

[@adarshvbnbtt]

What is the song playing at the very beginning before the episode starts?

[@amberantk1]

Regarding lack of results with the scan later, was the scan not rigged to ignore Bernard, the human-host hybrid?...

[@RoxyAlexander]

C("see") R(obert) 4D(ford) L(ive)

[@chakka3000]

I’m with you Robert, I didn’t think the pearl was for Ford. I was actually quite surprised to see him at the end of the episode (though I guess I shouldn’t have been). On a side note, it was interesting in the trailer for next week when Charlotte seemingly has one of the Bernards “open his eyes”. Is this the Bernard we see wake up on the shore in Episode 1?

[@heather173]

I wanted to stay up so badly and see this video, but I got sucked back into watching lava videos... this show hurts my brain, but I absolutely love the mental workout.

[@molson9059]

The Chinese lady with the snake tattoo was still with them, so Shogun wasn’t entirely pointless. Plus Mauve learned to tap into the mesh network during her time there which will help next time they encounter the ghost tribe. William is either a completely broken man or a host now and we are waiting for the reveal later on. Felix is tragically in love with Mauve I do believe.

[@str8todamoney]

Samurai are Japanese.

[@molson9059]

Conchita Mendez your probably right I would have to watch it again to be sure but initially I thought they were representing both cultures.

[@str8todamoney]

Eldrik Stone That's interesting. What made you think Chinese?

[@stannyb3346]

Eldrik Stone the only one who's chinese is Akane since she crossed the water to a new world just like Maeve.

[@MrOldMajor]

No. Shogun World is purely an impression of Edo-period Japan. Maeve, Sizemore and Akane *dressed up* as Chinese envoys in their attempt to retrieve Sakura from the Shogun. There was also a Chinese customer at Akane's 'brothel' that Musashi murdered in his raid. That's about as 'Chinese' as Shogun World gets.

[@Fahamut]

Phase space...A hosts breaking mind can also have this effect.

[@angelkrista6748]

Has it been discussed that there may have been a larger motive for the hosts dead in the lake? Is it possible they were planted, so they could be brought back to the Mesa, revived by the revolutionists, and sneak attack from within?

[@katrinfrommypointofview7308]

Yes!!!! a glimt of Ford 😃👌

[@nicholasmaude6906]

When are you going to do an analysis of the episode 2x7 promo?

[@dizzydee9939]

So Bernarnold is a hybrid and Ford lives on in the mesh network. The return of Ford is gonna be the best thing about this season. William and the elephant story, is William a host with memories and no address or was he testing to see if his daughter is a host?

[@ABearHolhut]

Dizzy Dee testing to see if his daughter was a host. I think it is really clear. Hardening back to the Fidelity Test William had w cloned Delos and Delores had w host Bernard/Arnold in the opening scene.

[@ABearHolhut]

Harkening

[@Thepaintedangel-ds7ru]

I feel like these theories are getting a bit much at this point, in particular the whole human ball thing. I feel like they answered who the ball was when Ford showed up in the Cradle, Bernard only ever mentioned/remembered one ball and explicitly said he brought it to the cradle. I think its possible that Ford was trying to reconstruct Arnold but through testing in the cradle, found that Bernard was moving in a different direction. Bernard's answer showed more humanity towards hosts than whatever baseline they were using, presumably from Arnold. The reason I dont think a hybrid is possible is because a big point to the show is hosts developing their own consciousnesses, and I dont see how it would be possible or make much sense to the plot for there to be two individual consciousnesses in one host, and if there was then I think we would see Bernard being pulled between himself and Arnold, which there is clearly a difference between the two because Bernard answered Delores differently. Also all the stuff about William is nonsense to me, I will say he blinked real slow like a host when talking to his daughter but it just wouldnt make sense to the story or serve a purpose for him to be a host, although I think he could face a host version of his younger self at some point. As a last point, I dislike the comments about shogun being pointless. I have always loved Westworld for its incredible filming and the contrast between Delores and Maeve was really dynamic last episode, they always went from night in one to day in another and it also helped a lot with Maeve's character arch. I'm really keen to find out the purpose of the cradle, how it gets destroyed and what happens to Delores. I'd also like to see where Maeve's story goes now that she has found her daughter. Great video as always, loved that you picked up on the wide screen at the start and love how you back up your theories. I am finding my experience of watching westworld to be better without making up my own theories because they keep changing it up anyways so I love hearing everyone elses

[@rockhunterjens7884]

Just a deep thought on Stubbs where he's now one of the least loyal employees since his 'escape'. What IF his personality etc. has been transferred into a Host body with some suggestions towards sympathy towards the Hosts? It's very intriguing.

[@PiginPooh]

1 topic not discussed is the transition from shogun to westworld. the shute and timeless transition suggests that the entire 'world' is in space. and the 2 worlds or beneath each other on one massive ship.

[@DocDoctalks]

CR4DL Cognitive. Research. Lab 4. Deep. Learning.

[@Brandonhayhew]

Pay attention to the small details so that the twist might make sense at the end?

[@nathanczochara1576]

I think I got a overall theory in the works for Ford. Thing is it's too long for comments. Where can I send it to you when I get it all written up? Thanks for the content btw.

[@darthgzuz]

How come Stubbs managed to control Abernathy at his own when we see three other guys managed to put him down. How come he is so strong? Is he also a host?

[@jasonkelley4057]

I believe there is more than one cradle, that is cradle 4.

[@markpjf85]

I think their is more to maeve story she starting to use human emotion her path it’s very interesting < it could be a heart 💔 breaking one in the end plus think the daughter is a copy The actual real one that is I believe is a human in the Park or part the organisation hmm 🤔

[@TheSoulcraft]

Maybe 'phased space' & the cradle contain every possible outcome,maybe when we see diff qr teams in different places,sometimes dead....same with Teddy. Could we not be jumping around a single time line,but multiple realities with diff outcomes? Just a thought,i think your right on point...just trying to see if Abrams will do a 'Lost ' on us!jk

[@durrandurrandon6451]

What about Dolores's wet skirt in the fidelity test scene? I mean, it's not really wet (or blue or tangible in any way) if they are in the CR4DL, but why would it being wet be part of her self-conception or Bernard's conception of her? It could be a metaphor. In the first part of this conversation in season 1 Bernard was talking about a dream with her being on a far shore across an ocean. Then again, it could also mean that this is somehow happening after the hosts were drowned at the beach. But the CR4DL should have been destroyed by that point, so maybe this is happening at another CR4DL, perhaps at Will's secret facility.

[@durrandurrandon6451]

I mention this, because the CR4DL is freaky and we still have no proven idea of what Will's facility is. The title Phase Space implies that the CR4DL can be used to predict all of the possible outcomes of a story-line, giving Ford in the CR4DL almost omniscient powers within the park. It could be that Will's facility is a larger version of the CR4DL, using guest data to run simulations of the outside world. This might explain why Dolores would see it as a weapon.

[@aarijzafeer]

So what is valley beyond

[@tubebunbun]

I think it is not Dolores testing "Bernard", but she is trying to build a host version of Arnold. Why would she not bring back her creator, who gave his life to save her species? She could have reconstructed Arnold from Ford's memories, and from all the recorded memories of all the hosts that were built by Arnold. She could have even gotten input from Arnold's wife, it depends on how far into the future that scene was, whether Dolores have overthrown human authority and taken over the planet.

[@Fahamut]

Not true, Deep Geek. She is heading to the weapon, the place that William showed her. They are both going there, she is just making a pit stop at the Mesa to save dear old dad. There are already scenes in the present where the Meza is blown up, by Delores and the Cradle destroyed, (Presumably by Bernard and Elsie, or during a gun battle between them and Delos) plus Abernathey is gone again.

[@Fahamut]

*Katy Cain Yup, me too, but I'm pretty sure that was at the very least their plan. It could change but I don't think so. Delores seemed very adamant of making it there and was William (MIB)

[@Fahamut]

*jfitz0716 Was going to mock you for your oh so important contribution, but....Thanks dude. Dolores

[@dizzydee9939]

I think the cradle is the valley beyond, william's biggest mistake and glory. It's the place everyone is heading to.

[@xunanhou4171]

Good guess! I agree with you cause it makes great sense, especially when everything starts to unfold and connect with each other.

[@Wo0dGlue]

im surprised i havent seen anyone talk about the colors of Red and White occuring in the series. In the first episodes where Rebus and Walter drink milk and shoot people, causing pools of blood and milk to mix. The S2 promo posters have a white wasteland with red sky. Drone hosts killing human workers and dumping them in the bio-synthetic fluid, where their blood and the white fluids then mixing. Akane wearing white make-up and dress that is then caked in blood. White is the color of innocense, while red is a color of sin. Hosts are made from white fluids, while Humans are made of red globules.

[@florianvantricht7207]

tis video is way better in 1.25

[@Fahamut]

Williams daughter is heading to the weapon as well. I have a feeling that it is very close to the West world Raj world border. The season is called," The Door", and even though Fords game is to lead William to the Door ,doesn't mean that winning requires passing through it. I think that William will ultimately chose to not pass through the door. Perhaps he will push his daughter through the door. Perhaps she is gravely hurt saving him. Yes it is one hell of a prediction , but I already predicted that Ford would show up in ep 7.....(missed it by this much ~!) That was before the season began muahahaha

[@demongo2007]

CR4DL C R4D L C R[obert] [For]D L ...I got nothing else....

[@finnyliverpool89]

demongo2007 Consciousness Reader, Ford Loop?

[@dantuga5412]

Bro you just blew my mind.

[@sageimac3168]

CL could mean Command Line. R. Ford is inside the command line.

[@stijnbos7614]

CR FORD DL?

[@alanrosen51]

CR4-DL => Cray-4 Deep Learning. This was the last in a series of liquid cooled supercomputers developed by Seymour Cray that was never completed before the company went bankrupt. An extremely fast high power computer that generated too much heat for an air cooled system and had to be liquid cooled, not by water but by a fluorocarbon solution similar to Freon and liquid at room temperature. The company still exists today building the world's fastest supercomputers with different technologies and focused on AI. The computer in this show has a striking resemblance to the earlier model.

[@Jaeboy]

Lets ground this into reality for a minute. Simulation of Bernard inside Cradle wouldn't work. No matter how accurate the engineers coded the simulator, there are limitations. A simulator can't simulate outcomes outside of known parameters. Consciousness and self awareness has yet to be defined. Of course, script writers aren't bound by our restraints.

[@ILIslandBoy]

Okay, you skipped over some BIG give aways... The scene with MIB and his daughter shows a moment of "infidelity." He notices it, too. The second significant theme that you missed was the continued use of religious imagery and the subplot based on it... Peter A was essentially crucified. The story of Lazarus has a some interesting parallels, and sheds light on the story line. Luke 16:19-31 New International Version (NIV) The Rich Man and Lazarus 19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” Also note the following details regarding Lazarus - He is a leper that follows the teachings of his Jesus. Jesus resurrects Lazarus after 4 days. Lazarus has two sisters Mary and Martha... Now map the characters of WW to the Lazarus story line.

[@ILIslandBoy]

Ilya Kralinsky My additional comments connecting the previous episodes with this one...

[@ILIslandBoy]

Preliminary mapping... Rich man - James Delos 5 Brothers - Board Members Lazarus - William Abraham - Ford Moses - Bernard/Arnold Prophets - Ghost Nation Jesus - Peter Abernathy / collective of all hosts John the Baptist - Delores Gabriel - Arnold Peter - Stubbs Mary (mother of Jesus, sister of Lazarus) - Charlotte Hale Judas - Teddy Elijah - Elsie

[@ILIslandBoy]

And going out on a limb, God the father - Maeve the mother...

[@starlingwatch3921]

Did Westworld get the train-going-into-the-mesa wrong? The engine is in front of the passenger car as the train enters the mesa tunnel. I thought the train pulls out of Sweetwater in reverse, heading to the Mesa. That puts 2 passenger cars on the train. The hosts leave the technician in the back car - which will hit the Mesa first. They pull the pin and the passenger car separates from the second car and the engine. I anticipated that the passenger car with the technician is filled with nitro or some other explosive. So it enters the Mesa first, explodes and the second passenger car with the engine then delivers the hosts into the Mesa without harming them. The technician is hysterical because he knows his car will run into the Mesa first, killing him. Am I getting this wrong?

[@midu914]

What was the song Dolores was playing on the piano? It kind of sounded like a distorted version I Don't Know How to Love Him from Jesus Christ Superstar.

[@Brandonhayhew]

GRRMartin did he wanted a crossover with Game of Thrones, in a future of spinoff or in a episode?

[@marlonhoyte5285]

I got so sad when I remembered that they will destroy the cradle