Indian Scout Bobber engine and DC power inexplicably shuts off - solved

[@mikeh4686]

Very nicely done video. I have the standard scout (2021) and bike did unexpectedly shut off once. I figured it was me accidentally hitting kill button. It has never done it since. I believe many (including dealers) will find his video invaluable when trying to diagnose these gremlins.

[@raisingcane225]

At 2:27 where I explain reaching in to jostle what wires I could feel, and the short instantly clearing, that was reaching in and up from UNDERNEATH up by where the voltage regulator and ABS module and front center portion of the swing arm are, it was NOT fiddling with the wires up top by the fuse block and battery. When I jostled the wires, it moved the exposed black 2-pronged plug under the battery box slightly, causing the water droplet in it to fall out and thus cleared the short. UPDATE: The problem remains solved. I have soaked it another 3 times and no issues. My nephew has a 21 Scout with ABS (regular Scout, not the Bobber) and this past weekend we pulled the battery and battery box - less of a PITA now that I figured out how to separate it from the coolant reservoir - and his did NOT have the exposed plug at all anywhere that we could see in that area. He had not had an issue either with the bike shutting off like this. Hopefully it is a rare and isolated situation. If anyone else has this problem and it turns out to be the same issue, please comment here so we know. Thanks and good luck.

[@thechunkyhen]

This happened to me once several years ago, the dealer said it was probably a loose battery terminal. It hasn't ever happened to me since but will definitely look into this if it happens again. Thanks for sharing!

[@raisingcane225]

Do you remember if you had the clicking/resetting circuit breaker when the bike shut down and wouldn’t re-start? If so, it’s not likely it was just a loose terminal. I don’t think a loose terminal alone would cause a self-resetting fuse/breaker to trip like I describe, only a short should do that.

[@zeeman8765]

I'm having the same issue....thank you for the insight

[@raisingcane225]

Let me/us know if after you diagnose and hopefully solve it if it appeared to be same problem as mine. Good luck and thanks

[@nicopelle72]

You’re SUPER-PRO!!!!! 💪Compliments.😎

[@obiajulumaha412]

While watching this video, i realized that my 2021 scout bobber was intermittently shutting off during extremely humid days. I hope Im not just letting my imagination run away with me. But this is annoying when Im enjoying a beautiful ride and out of the blue... and while in slow traffic.

[@stephencummins7589]

You are brilliant man thank you.

[@stevehunt9703]

We had the same problem and in our case two issues caused the problem. The bar switches are open contact and can get water or humidity in them causing no starting and on the other bar inability to toggle the display. Second issue humidity in the speedometer causing complete engine computer meltdow with strange lighting faults and no start. Funny how Hondas from the seventies had no problems. Placement of connectors behind or in front of wheels or any weather exposed location is stupid. Not good enough.

[@allentraylor5659]

Verry sharp dude.

[@joshuared5173]

Thanks for the heads up man. I'm looking forward to getting my own SCOUT BOBBER soon. Please let us know if/when INDIAN contacts you and what happens after that.

[@sonnymolina8748]

Thank you so much for sharing this video

[@raisingcane225]

Hope it helped. Were you having the same or a similar issue?

[@sonnymolina8748]

@@raisingcane225 No I’m not having that issue it’s good information for all of us that have a Scout Bobber thank you so much for sharing your video

[@Txcowboy80]

Thanks for the post 💯

[@poppysadventures2020]

Thank you for sharing

[@TeamTaur]

I wanna hear that dual air horn... I have only 1 on my octane.. would love to hear that bad ass set up... I may have to upgrade lol.

[@raisingcane225]

The horn sounds exactly like my 2018 F-250 6.7 diesel. This is the horn, I painted the bracket black and turned the horns to face the way they are in the video. FIAMM 7201622 OEM Dual Horn Assembly, GM/Chrysler/Ford a.co/d/9An8u3u

[@joshuafreier1749]

Just curious where did you get the saddle bags? They look great. I've been looking for a set for my scout

[@raisingcane225]

They are from an Italian company called ENDS CUIO. The specific model is “Tomahawk”. I got it in the two tone dark color and got the extra option of the Quick Buckles (highly recommend the Quick Buckles). They are kind of small but fit the Bobber very well and are SUPER high quality, although they are expensive. I ordered from them last week a square yard of thinner leather - colored as best they could based on pictures of the saddlebags - so I can have a local upholstery shop redo my seat to better match the color of the bags. If you get these bags and think you might later try and re-cover your seat to match the bags, it’s best to order the extra leather colored at the same time they make the bags - it will be an exact match that way.

[@1969ajq]

@@raisingcane225 best bag for money, excellent quality (Italian)

[@Drengr1901]

Yes, Ends Cuoio is definitely worth the money and wait. I use the detachable mounts.

[@Visibly4D]

Damn I had the same idea to make the chieftain head a skull

[@raisingcane225]

That is a decal from Brave Wolf Customs. It’s been over a year and it’s still perfect.

[@zx7rkawa99]

Greetings, what is this module that is in the battery box for?

[@raisingcane225]

Hello, can you give me a time stamp for where the module you are talking about is? There are several things in there, amongst them the main fuse junction block

[@zx7rkawa99]

@@raisingcane225 I mean the module that is stuck to the bottom of the battery's box, at 3:09. An error showed up on my bike (520200-14) and my mechanic said it's that module that causes it.

[@raisingcane225]

@@zx7rkawa99 I believe it is a module that determines if the bike has tipped over and if so, shuts off power to the bike - it’s a safety device I. The even the bike has fallen over, for example in a crash. If you look up OEM Indian parts for a 2020 Scout Bobber it is in the subsection of “ELECTRICAL, COMPONENTS, ALL OPTIONS” and it is referenced as part 9 in the illustration; part number 4017165 “MODULE, LOAD/TIP OVER”. Listed at $204.99. The website I looked it up at is: www.indianpartsnation.com

[@raisingcane225]

@@zx7rkawa99 www.indianpartsnation.com/oemparts/a/ind/62bc71104375bb533de982c7/electrical-components-all-options It’s reference part number 9

[@zx7rkawa99]

@@raisingcane225 i see, thank you a lot!

[@lt9648]

Grazie!

[@Desordius]

Thanks for share

[@1969ajq]

thanks for the info

[@Joeyiswinning]

Got a 2016 that has the same issue, but when I took it apart I could not find the plug in this video, would there be any other location where I would find it?

[@raisingcane225]

@@Joeyiswinning I’m not even sure what that exposed plug is. I suspect but am not sure it is some kind of test or diagnostic plug for the engine or the ABS or some other subsystem on mine. Does your 2016 have ABS? Even if it doesn’t, or if doesn’t have the same plug anywhere, if your symptoms are the same there is almost certainly SOMEWHERE an exposed wire(s) or plug with both positive and negative wires part of it that is getting and retaining moiature and causing the circuit breaker to trip. You have to track down what and where that is. Sorry I can’t be of more help and I know this is an incredibly frustrating issue. For me at least it’s been I think now well over a year and my issue remains solved. Good luck to you and when you solve yours please post back here as it may help someone else.

[@Joeyiswinning]

@@raisingcane225 appreciate the advice man, unfortunately it looks like I’m gonna have to just track this issue down wire by wire 😵‍💫

[@raisingcane225]

@@Joeyiswinning if you can, get the bike completely covered and dry. Put as large a fan(s) as you have blowing on it until - hopefully - the issue clears as the water/moisture causing the short dries off and it resolves. Then try wetting one small area at a time - trying as best as possible to limit what gets wet -with a hose and see if the short comes back. If and when it does, then at least you can hopefully isolate to a more limited area where the problem might be. I know first hand what a PITA and frustrating problem something like this is, but once you properly find it and fix it, it’s a very satisfying thing. Again, good luck to you sir

[@raisingcane225]

@@Joeyiswinning you may also want to look at the turn signal switches, the horn switch and the start/stop switches. I doubt they are waterproof and if water gets inside it is quite possible to cause the same sort of short that trips the breaker. If and when you track this down please post back with brief info on the source and solution. Good luck!

[@MastaKeahi]

Mine is driving me nuts I was going down the highway and lost the front cylinder now I get error code 651 5 for the front injector and I’m getting code 520547 5 and 520548 5. These two are not in the service manual and I use my multimeter and can’t find a short. If I unplug the front injector and plug it back in it fixes itself for about a day. I’ve had this bike for a month and I’m not looking forward to the service bill.

[@raisingcane225]

Doesn’t sound like the cause of your issue is the same as mine. Good luck, hope you can solve it and its not a major issue

[@714TRAVLES]

Hello, I just rode my 2020 indian scout bobber sixty to the gas station. Shut it off and went inside. When I came back out and went to start it, it is doing exactly what your describing. Ture the key and headlight flickers a couple of time then nothing. Gauge won't illuminate at all and the there's just a clicking sound every couple of seconds. I'm hoping what you found to be the issue is mine as well. Going to pull it apart tomorrow after work.

[@raisingcane225]

Good luck and please reply back here if it turns out to be the same issue.

[@714TRAVLES]

Tonight I'm going to try what you did by removing the negative battery cable from the chassie along with the other ground wires clamped them together with plyersi and try the key and see if it lights up everything again. If it does then I need to look at that plug you're talking about a little more closely and really blow it out and clean it.

[@raisingcane225]

@@714TRAVLES If you are going to remove the battery and battery box to try and access where the plug that I had exposed is, first MAKE SURE to look at the forum thread I linked to in the video description of how to remove the battery box. Without knowing how to do it it is a royal pain in the ass and you’ll never get it out. My nephew has a 21 Scout with ABS. Over the weekend we pulled his battery and the box - not because he had the problem but to look and see he had the same exposed plug I did. His bike did NOT have it, so it is possible to be an uncommon problem. There are some other potential issues that can cause a short and circuit breakers to trip. You may also want to read this thread where I first had this problem before it was resolved. Alot of people posted suggestions as to what might be the cause: www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/help-20-bobber-died-inst-gauge-dead-w-clicking-chassis-fuse-battery-ok.329503/ Good luck and if you solve it please reply back with info on what it turned out to be.

[@714TRAVLES]

@@raisingcane225 Last night I took the battery and battery box out. I blew out the plug a little and hooked the battery up I tried to start it again but the minute I turned the key on it did the same thing. Maybe I didn't blow it out enough. We haven't had the best dry warm weather here in Missouri yet. I'm almost certain you and I have the same issue. Everything you went through is going on with mine.

[@raisingcane225]

So you had the same exposed plug as mine did? Aside from the plug I pointed out in the video, there were two more plugs dangling down just above the rear swing arm that were also exposed and not capped. I also filled those two with the same silicone die-electric grease just in case. But I know it was the plug below the battery box that had the water in/on it that caused my issue. I had previously jiggled the other two plugs and the problem had persisted, until I actually was able to jiggle the plug under the battery box and I felt water drip out. Hope you can resolve this!

[@allthekidsareright]

Is your bike abs?

[@raisingcane225]

Sorry for the late reply., missed the message previously. Yes, it is ABS