Indiana Jones And The Great Circle

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The Mighty Jingles

The Mighty Jingles

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@bearcatracing007
@bearcatracing007 20 сағат бұрын
Jingles belongs in a museum
@nedks11
@nedks11 20 сағат бұрын
Hahaha, he is not that old!
@TheInfidel_SlavaUA
@TheInfidel_SlavaUA 19 сағат бұрын
@@nedks11 hes like 2 months older than me so hes basically methusalem 😋😋
@RySLz
@RySLz 19 сағат бұрын
I love how unnecessary this was 😂😂
@jackcoates7198
@jackcoates7198 19 сағат бұрын
He’d get stolen!
@bearcatracing007
@bearcatracing007 18 сағат бұрын
@RySLz I mean in a national treasure way, honest...
@VincentNajger1
@VincentNajger1 19 сағат бұрын
Tony Todd passed away about a month ago or so. RIP to a dude that was in heaps of hugely relevant horror films as well as voicing many iconic characters in games and animations.
@Strykenine
@Strykenine 12 сағат бұрын
Also a big actor in Star Trek. He will be missed.
@twinshark429
@twinshark429 41 минут бұрын
@@Strykenine Wasn't he Worf's brother, Kern?
@ThunderGod9182
@ThunderGod9182 21 минут бұрын
​@twinshark429 Yes, he was.
@francischambless5919
@francischambless5919 15 сағат бұрын
In regards to the small boat at the beginning, in old expeditions in south America they would carry their boats with them across land to the points where they expected to need them again later on. Not sure how well that area was mapped out, but there are a ton of rivers and such in South America.
@richtea615
@richtea615 20 сағат бұрын
Temple of Doom is a prequel to Raiders.
@grahamross6397
@grahamross6397 7 сағат бұрын
Yep... Actually, Jingles...
@csdn4483
@csdn4483 6 сағат бұрын
Yep, Temple of Doom is from 1935 in the timeline whereas Raiders is from 1936 and Crusaders is 1939.
@tboneisgaming
@tboneisgaming 4 сағат бұрын
Spot on
@classicfrog80
@classicfrog80 15 сағат бұрын
Jingles, the hair colour change must be on your end. I haven't had such issue. Granted, I had other things, like a noise over white shiny surfaces, due to interference between DLSS and HDR, or weird eye textures in the tutorial. But there was nothing wrong with anyone's hair.
@GeirSandstad
@GeirSandstad 13 сағат бұрын
Same here. Running on a RTX 3070, and I didn't get the issue. Actually downloaded the game to specifically test this, and I have seen videos of it that didn't show the issue as well.
@tensaibr
@tensaibr 12 сағат бұрын
Same here. The lights inside the cave and university were also way up, the whole place was lit up to the point it almost looked like outside at daylight. That is not how I witnessed on my PC not how it's intended to look like.
@NotTheCIA1961
@NotTheCIA1961 18 сағат бұрын
That the voice of Indy ISN'T Harrison Ford is wild. It's bang on.
@tom184rex3
@tom184rex3 20 сағат бұрын
28:48 Actually Jingles The Temple of Doom was a prequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark, so this game is actually set before The Last Crusade. Jingles? 'BANG'
@jeanlongsden1696
@jeanlongsden1696 20 сағат бұрын
my mother had dinner with Harrison Ford in the mid seventy's, when he was filming Force 10 From Navarone in Jersey C.I. she was invited along to a meal with the whole cast, as one of her friends was dating one of the stuntmen.
@Fraxxxi
@Fraxxxi 19 сағат бұрын
2:09 "Restart Checkpoint - 1 minute ago" yeeeeeeeeesssssssss. more games need to start doing this. I don't notice a tiny flashing icon on screen for less than half a second when a game autosaves so when a game doesn't offer manual saves, only autosaves, I never have any idea if I quit now will I lose 20 seconds of progress or will I have to redo the last half hour when I get back. so much anxiety over the years, because devs couldn't be bothered.
@MrMannerable
@MrMannerable 20 сағат бұрын
These visual/lighting issues aren't due to direction though, you seem to be experiencing some pretty severe graphics bugs. On my setup and others I've seen stream these lighting issues aren't present.
@GexMax
@GexMax 17 сағат бұрын
same here and my system is a couple of years old as well now, running with a 3080 and drivers from early november. typical jingles luck i suppose :D
@ChainedPhantom
@ChainedPhantom 16 сағат бұрын
....so I play on PC, too, and I didn't experience those same lighting issues that I remember. I wonder if it might be something in the settings.
@MaximumFear666
@MaximumFear666 20 сағат бұрын
"You can't steal from the dead. That's called archeology."
@richarddyson4380
@richarddyson4380 3 сағат бұрын
Well actually Jingles, there are trees in Oz that have identical texture (Moreton Bay Figs) to those in the game. So from my perspective,they are spot-on for a tropical/sub-tropical tree trunk texture. TBH my jaw dropped at the quality of scenery as soon as it popped up. We’ve come a long way since playing asteroids….
@zoidcore6948
@zoidcore6948 20 сағат бұрын
seeing harrison ford as a special guest in the game awards gave me goose bumps, i expected the event to be a shit show. but shiiiii seeing my childhood hero brought sparkles on my eyes
@NotALot-xm6gz
@NotALot-xm6gz 20 сағат бұрын
Did he know where he was?
@TheInfidel_SlavaUA
@TheInfidel_SlavaUA 19 сағат бұрын
he was loaded like a pirate to make it through
@TehAlekzi
@TehAlekzi 19 сағат бұрын
He looked on stage like a grandpa who didn't know where he was.
@ecolvill
@ecolvill 7 сағат бұрын
I'll be looking forward to this series since it's very clear to me that I won't be able to afford a new computer anytime soon, so I'll just have to live vicariously through our Gnome Overlord 😊
@Bullet4MyEnemy
@Bullet4MyEnemy 19 сағат бұрын
Troy really did nail the voice
@Tigerric3
@Tigerric3 20 сағат бұрын
i'm running this game on a 6 year old rig with an i5 and a 2070 super. on 1440 with medium to high settings. getting 75 fps. it doesnt look bad at all imo but the game is very good so gameplay > graphics ... *edit, i did not have these issues at all ...
@francischambless5919
@francischambless5919 15 сағат бұрын
Something with his set up is not working right, whether it's drivers, the GPU itself or something else. May have to play with stuff until he figures it out but other videos don't show that happening.
@CarlWheatley-wi2cl
@CarlWheatley-wi2cl 3 сағат бұрын
Interesting. I might be able to run this thing after all.
@greg_mmm
@greg_mmm 20 сағат бұрын
I know Bethesda is the publisher not the developer but at 2:06 the guy with the back pack walks through the tree... Some things never change
@helixfalks
@helixfalks 19 сағат бұрын
I think he meant ZeniMax, which is pretty much Bethesda, or rather Beth is ZeniMax
@xcritic9671
@xcritic9671 10 сағат бұрын
I just scrolled down to see if anyone else pointed it out
@AniwayasSong
@AniwayasSong 20 сағат бұрын
As a child, I played with 'Etch-a-sketch' games. That pretty much sums-up MY knowledge on PC's and Graphics. ;-) As an 'Elder' who has been dabbling in these modern games for around a decade, I am forever astonished at how far graphics have come since the first Atari console arrived. I've spent countless hours in 'Open world' games, just exploring! Doubt I'll ever have the $$$ to invest in a modern, powerful PC. That's just not on my own radar of things I absolutely have to have to live. I sure's heck enjoy watching you and your videos Jingles! Happy Holidays and all the best in the New Year!
@TheStupidLama
@TheStupidLama 11 сағат бұрын
I watched the XCOM2 Series with Jingles. Full playthroughs with Jingles are really good. Looking forwards!
@chronostreamteknys704
@chronostreamteknys704 18 сағат бұрын
To be fair, he wasnt 30. He was 37 in Raiders. 38 in this and 39 in Last Crusade. Doom is the odd one at him being 36. Yes, Temple of Doom was a prequel. Probably explains his less than scholarly pursuit at Marshall. But I do hope they fix the aging issue. We don't need to be reminded of Crystal Skull anymore.
@heneagedundas
@heneagedundas 16 сағат бұрын
Interesting, so he was born in 1899, making Indiana Jones a Victorian character (kind of).
@Sasha-jk6wo
@Sasha-jk6wo 16 сағат бұрын
Hell yea! Let's do it! My only complaint is that this video isn't 1 or 2 hours longer. I demand at least two Indy videos a week... sir, i don't know what got into me.. yes sir, extra shift at the mines every day for the next month.. going right away sir!
@mrpmp5384
@mrpmp5384 17 сағат бұрын
This is such an awesome surprise! So glad you are playing this.
@tacitus6384
@tacitus6384 18 сағат бұрын
It's a shame the Empire of Japan aren't in the game. They'd have made great antagonists in Thailand, bayonet charging you.
@BenjaminEmm
@BenjaminEmm 9 сағат бұрын
A brand new lets play, oh yes! Can't wait to see this one Jingles!
@Redeyes0815
@Redeyes0815 12 сағат бұрын
ok good to hear that they didn't screw up the game, unlike the last movie
@splat003
@splat003 12 сағат бұрын
looking forward to it, it's like watching a good narrated docu
@Halkomahooli
@Halkomahooli 19 сағат бұрын
It's not just lighting. At some points it looks like Indy doesn't have any facial expressions at all. Otherwise I really like the look of it and the feel of being able to play as Indy. Such a legendary character.
@MatJan86
@MatJan86 17 сағат бұрын
This must be some bug or Jingles settings. I have seen other gameplay and lightning is just fine.
@TheLazyFinn
@TheLazyFinn 15 сағат бұрын
@@MatJan86 Yea, no complaints here. Some scenes might be a tad bright but nothing too major.
@duncan680
@duncan680 14 сағат бұрын
ONe thing im very happy about is the correct setup of the chessboards.
@VincentNajger1
@VincentNajger1 19 сағат бұрын
Any chance we could get some more 'Thank Goodness You're Here!'? It's ridiculously entertaining and if there was a game virtually custom made for Jingles, it's this one. Also, the personal anecdotes dredged up out of Jingles memory are awesome to hear and funny af. Plus, it's just a hilarious game and super entertaining to watch (but maybe Jingles should watch a walk through or guide first, to avoid lots of aimless wandering that necessitates editing out).
@lim-dulspaladin50
@lim-dulspaladin50 11 сағат бұрын
I lived in Hawaii for three years and the tree's texture looks exactly like the trees in HI. We called them paper trees because of how the bark sloughs off
@cptbfrank
@cptbfrank 12 сағат бұрын
New jingles play thru getting started, Lets goooo.
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 18 сағат бұрын
Stranger: (unintelligible Latin" Oh great, he's gonna summon a demon.
@DustyChapter
@DustyChapter 20 сағат бұрын
Oooh! i was *so* hoping you would play this! I was hesitantly exited seeing the trailer, as it seemed to capture the soul of the movies, so glad to hear its good!
@sillybean32
@sillybean32 20 сағат бұрын
He also has a black finger while holding the torch
@boysenbeary
@boysenbeary 13 сағат бұрын
This is the best Indy IP since the original films lol. Im really enjoying it
@Bigbatmatt
@Bigbatmatt 20 сағат бұрын
Jingles thank you so much for your honesty ❤
@reallightfield5314
@reallightfield5314 16 сағат бұрын
Why yes Jingles, I will stick around for this series
@Commando_history
@Commando_history 20 сағат бұрын
Oh I can't wait for a jingles playthrough of this
@Juansolous
@Juansolous 20 сағат бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the game, Me and my dad were fans of the movies..miss him. Hopefully I'll play it for myself one day but until then I'll enjoy your playthrough.
@Avalon304
@Avalon304 19 сағат бұрын
Ive watched other videos of this segment of the game... and not noticed the lighting issues that you were having... so it might not be entirely the games fault.
@AwexDerErste
@AwexDerErste 12 сағат бұрын
24:30 love how indy carelessy drops the priceless ancient relics on the floor
@MrMaffy96
@MrMaffy96 20 сағат бұрын
jingles we want Thanks goodness you are here!
@VincentNajger1
@VincentNajger1 19 сағат бұрын
Yes! Moaaar! It's ridiculously entertaining and if there was a game virtually custom made for Jingles, it's this one. Also, the personal anecdotes dredged up out of Jingles memory are awesome to hear and funny af
@LordRunolfrUlfsson
@LordRunolfrUlfsson 16 сағат бұрын
(6:30) Maybe the water was considerably higher when Forrestal and company arrived. (16:00) I saw another KZbinr play through this part, and I don't recall these lighting issues.
@RailsOfTheSouthProductions
@RailsOfTheSouthProductions 2 сағат бұрын
“You can’t just run away from your problems, Indiana” man if that doesn’t hit home.
@tboneisgaming
@tboneisgaming 4 сағат бұрын
One of my favourite movie series growing up in the 80s and 90s. As far as I'm concerned there are only 3 Indiana Jones movies. I'm looking forward to this series.
@fendelphi
@fendelphi 20 сағат бұрын
Seems like a cinematic experience. Like an interactive movie.Pretty good idea for an Indiana Jones game.
@kyleishere2433
@kyleishere2433 15 сағат бұрын
Looking forward to this series. I can't play it, but I will happily watch you stumble all the way to the end.
@cimitarthegrumpygamer3879
@cimitarthegrumpygamer3879 20 сағат бұрын
Ah I was hoping you were going to play this!
@tragicblue
@tragicblue 11 сағат бұрын
So many great nods to the movies, the voice acting is chefs kiss…
@csdn4483
@csdn4483 6 сағат бұрын
Indiana Jones movie timeline (for those interested and an _actually Jingles_ moment) Temple of Doom - 1935 Raiders of the Lost Ark - 1936 Last Crusade - 1939 we won't mention the other two... >.> So the game occurs between Raiders and Crusade.
@chefzilla314
@chefzilla314 19 сағат бұрын
Maybe Forrestal rowed that boat passed Jock Lindsey's biplane as he was fishing. Jingles need to watch the Indy trilogy again. Forgot about Jock and that Temple Of Doom precedes Raiders in the timeline. Which would be a perfect thing to do on his "break".
@ewfisher89
@ewfisher89 14 сағат бұрын
I seriously want to play this. I actually went to my high school senior prom dressed as Indiana Jones.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 11 сағат бұрын
Marcus is my favorite supporting character in the Indiana Jones franchise. "Does anyone here speak English? Or even ancient Greek? Water? No thank you, sir. Fish make love in it."
@locutus9956
@locutus9956 6 сағат бұрын
Side note as well this is set a year after raiders but before Last Crusade… however it’s still after Temple of Doom Jinglrs as that’s actually takes place before Raiders.
@wargamingsupernoob
@wargamingsupernoob 3 сағат бұрын
This will be so much fun since Jingles is playing. I always value his opinion on games.
@TweeterAndTheMunkyMan
@TweeterAndTheMunkyMan 15 сағат бұрын
Denholm Elliot should be a national treasure. He was in so many great movies. I loved The Cruel Sea about the Compass Rose a Corvette escort to the Atlantic convoys. I think he was a navigator for Bomber Command during WW2 also.
@MrRadialdrift
@MrRadialdrift 20 сағат бұрын
Thank goodness this on game pass.
@Roverswelsh
@Roverswelsh 20 сағат бұрын
That’s awesome! As soon as the opening scene came up I was back to being a 10 year old watching wide eyed at such an incredible film. Still my favourite! I can’t wait to see this series
@stalkingtiger777
@stalkingtiger777 14 сағат бұрын
The problem I have with ray tracing is the overemphasized shadows. There's no accounting for light scattering, which means that anything not in LOS to a light source is overly dark and looks terrible to my eyes. A tree in direct sunlight doesn't mean you can't see the nooks and crannies that are blocked from the sun by the tree's geometry. It makes the world look more fake, not more realistic.
@hecklepig
@hecklepig 16 сағат бұрын
Raiders was my Star Wars. Never had the money and was too young to actually get in to see Star Wars at the cinema, but I have seen Raiders at least eight time at the movies. Mostly because every other year one of the theatres would run a double or triple feature and we'd always go watch it.
@SecularFelinist
@SecularFelinist 18 сағат бұрын
His hair wasn't the only thing, he turned into Jeff Goldblum.
@ViktorAndy
@ViktorAndy 20 сағат бұрын
Almost hard to believe that Toad Howard had something to do with this game.
@MrRadialdrift
@MrRadialdrift 20 сағат бұрын
No its easy to believe. Play it and you will see how lazy the game design is. I had to stop half way, it just isn't fun and somehow I took out 500+ German solders. The story is ok, but nothing amazing.
@02091992able
@02091992able 13 сағат бұрын
Alfred Molina's first roll in a film was as Satipo in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
@leecoates3674
@leecoates3674 20 сағат бұрын
What a way to start the day!
@thesnazzycomet
@thesnazzycomet 18 сағат бұрын
If only the last movie was this good
@masondegaulle5731
@masondegaulle5731 17 сағат бұрын
Looks like a great series! Those glitchy intro scenes felt like last minute re-writes stitched in.
@Strykenine
@Strykenine 12 сағат бұрын
Indy doesn't just look 60 when the light is off, he looks like a different character.
@jimstanga6390
@jimstanga6390 11 сағат бұрын
9:41 Revolver is likely a Smith and Wesson U.S. M1917 model chambered for .45 acp on half-moon clips. They later made a .45 auto-rim round for this model.
@rickevans5140
@rickevans5140 2 сағат бұрын
I believe it was. My brother still has my Great grandfather's 1917 .45 ACP.
@theShermanator
@theShermanator 20 сағат бұрын
I love Indiana Jones, just gotta wait for it to come to PS5
@CarlWheatley-wi2cl
@CarlWheatley-wi2cl 3 сағат бұрын
Great stuff. They have absolutely nailed it. One of the most pleasant surprises of 2024 gaming. Yes, we have reached the point of incremental graphical fidelity as a lopsided tradeoff to major performance hits, even on Jingles strength rigs. I wouldn't be able to play this game as Ray Tracing isn't worth the tradeoff to 30fps with my set up. Shame, but a Jingles playthough comes a close second. Ps: I hope there's an opportunity to return to those University environments. There's always something so damn appealing with them as a game setting, especially with this lighting and detail.
@ZedFontaine
@ZedFontaine 18 сағат бұрын
Yes! Another amazing series! I shall watch with roze tinted glasses and enjoy each episode! XD
@MatJan86
@MatJan86 17 сағат бұрын
Jingles your issue is either a bug, your game settings or something else on your end. Other people footage is fine.
@zdenekbina6044
@zdenekbina6044 13 сағат бұрын
Its hularious as Indy is throwing artifacts when he picks another one :D
@ploopyfudgewink9207
@ploopyfudgewink9207 19 сағат бұрын
Somehow, somewhere, there is someone who’s played this game before seeing any of the films.
@ImperialCommander97
@ImperialCommander97 18 сағат бұрын
I'm going to buy this game in about 3 months time, once the bugs/minor issues have been ironed out. But I'm seriously looking forward to doing so!
@hopeless74
@hopeless74 19 сағат бұрын
I didn't have these issues... it's a great game
@WalterReimer
@WalterReimer 18 сағат бұрын
He just wanted his kitty back!
@ideki
@ideki 14 сағат бұрын
Jingles, i think the lighting issue is your settings/computer. In my gameplay I did not have such issue.
@02091992able
@02091992able 13 сағат бұрын
Troy Baker the man that was the voice of Kai Leng in Mass Effect 3 and Pagan Min in FarCry 4 and 6.
@raiznsisig
@raiznsisig 18 сағат бұрын
thanks for the video Jingles. Just gave me an idea what to watch.
@montarakid1943
@montarakid1943 10 сағат бұрын
Modern naval warfare...just a bunch of missiles flying back and forth. Frequently in the dark. Seen one missile fight...pretty much seen them all. Not a particular entertaining video to watch. However, this!? Oh, my. Back to doing what you do best. Really excited about this series.
@javierguillen3987
@javierguillen3987 14 сағат бұрын
Alright Jingles, you got me hooked.
@BlackOmega314
@BlackOmega314 16 сағат бұрын
Ray tracing is necessary for the Staff of Ra to work so that Indy can find the Well of Souls in Tanis...
@02091992able
@02091992able 13 сағат бұрын
Tony Todd was also in the Final Destination films as well as the voice of The Fallen in the Bay Transformer film Revenge of the Fallen.
@mr.r080t3
@mr.r080t3 13 сағат бұрын
“I keep my Glock at the Vatican.” -Dracula Flow
@JeKramxel
@JeKramxel 10 сағат бұрын
Path Tracing in that game, from what I've seen so far, is one of the better implementations. The second you turned it on, you went from having shadows block the whole character in front of you, to it having different levels of shadow. Always though RT was a bit of snake oil, given how it was 2/3 years ago, but now we're slowly seeing some titles with actual impactful implementations of it. Of course 9/10 gamers will still prefer smoother frames, to super sexy eye candy, but that's another discussion.
@heneagedundas
@heneagedundas 16 сағат бұрын
A pity they couldn't get Denholm Elliott's voice as accurately as they did Harrison Ford's.
@LordSlayer001
@LordSlayer001 18 сағат бұрын
I hate being 'that guy', but in regards to the lighting and 'blonde' Indy........ its on your end. I have seen a few others playing this game, one of which was doing so while running their avatar on the same computer (which did cause some frame issues initial until she turned her avatar off), and none of them had a 'blonde' Indy.
@gasteletzwane6603
@gasteletzwane6603 16 сағат бұрын
28:50 Temple of doom is actually a prequel to Raiders.
@NevadaMirage
@NevadaMirage 5 сағат бұрын
HDR turned on seems to have avoided the gray-hair lighting/contrast problem you were having
@blairrighton6270
@blairrighton6270 19 сағат бұрын
looking forward to this playthrough Paul
@fogrepairshipakashi5834
@fogrepairshipakashi5834 19 сағат бұрын
Actually Jingles, given that initial sequence is basically a nightmare/dream, perhaps the bad lighting is part of it. Kinda like how the mind breaches out certain details as you recall them. Or we have the classic issue of one team not quite doing their job right.
@augustinlefebvre865
@augustinlefebvre865 14 сағат бұрын
I'm not sure why but other youtubers I've watched didn't seem to have the same lightning issues. Maybe it has something to do with your settings. Or it's a bug.
@old_sentinel
@old_sentinel 3 сағат бұрын
Good show, Chap! You have definitely peaked my interest. See you the next time around! Cheerio!
@Rorr59
@Rorr59 2 сағат бұрын
Looking forward to the rest, looks awesome.
@deelkar
@deelkar 5 сағат бұрын
if you rely on raytracing alone for you lighting you can skip a whole lot of manual lighting setup in a game, so this is not surprising. If done correctly with raytracing, everything "just works" where when you don't have raytracing available you have to really tweak every scene so it looks "correct" how the light interacts with surfaces, where raytracing needs only attention to texturing and light sources.
@Enemy0fMine1415
@Enemy0fMine1415 20 сағат бұрын
Jingles, have you actually stopped to check other people's playthroughs to see if this is an issue for everyone? Because you know, it might just be you being crap blaming something that isn't the games fault, and it's actually your hardware or settings.
@mattd6931
@mattd6931 19 сағат бұрын
Came here to say the same thing, cause the other videos I've seen don't have that issue.
@Edawgpilot
@Edawgpilot 19 сағат бұрын
It’s definitely not that, because he doesn’t have these issues past the opening intro segment
@mattd6931
@mattd6931 19 сағат бұрын
@@Edawgpilot But none of the other videos have the issue either. So it's either a graphical glitch, or his settings causing it. And he hasn't progressed back to a Jungle scene (daytime) in the game yet.
@Edawgpilot
@Edawgpilot 12 сағат бұрын
@@mattd6931 so you’re saying it COULD be a glitch after all? Funny how that works…..
@mattd6931
@mattd6931 8 сағат бұрын
​@@Edawgpilot Yes, but the glitch seems to be just be impacting HIM. Cause other videos I've seen don't have that same issue. Therefore likely to be something to do with his setup, his settings, or his drivers, which brings us full-circle back to the OP's point about settings or hardware. Funny how that works.
@LeftistPope
@LeftistPope 7 сағат бұрын
i had to rewatch my video to confirm cause I didn't remember noticing this issue and yeah, it must be a ray traycing thing cause in my recording his hair is normal
@TheTVDL2000
@TheTVDL2000 16 сағат бұрын
the lighting environment in which you tried to showcase/test the difference in full pathtracing and less was not indicative of what full path tracing can achieve. it is more a matter of extra reflections i.e. path of the light. if the path is not influenced much i.e. matt/natural materials there is not much further that the light path goes..... try it again in a bit more urban environment or when there is water or other reflectrive materials and localised lightsources
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