Inmotion V13 Wrap-up

[@videoogler]

Thank you for the info Marty. I've got the V13 and the pedal softness vs speed thing I wasn't aware of. I appreciate the time you guys take to keep folks informed.

[@masterblasterofdisaster]

So jealous of your avocados!

[@floatypiet]

I was thinking the same😂

[@laurv8370]

It's an avocado! Thanks! m.kzbin.infowG2-y5Yf1Oo

[@kaygee1623]

Thanks to all you SoCal Riders for your testing and contribution to the Community.🙌🙌

[@Steve-tf1wv]

That avocado falling was awesome. Thanks for your insights on this crazy huge/heavy wheel. :D

[@thatguyjoel9885]

Used to live in Upland, before they put the 210 through. Used to romp around Mt Baldy, Ive explored a fair amount of that beautiful place, such a great spot. Almost everytime I watch you ride you make me miss living in the Inland Empire, never thought anything would make me miss living down there.( I moved back to the SF Bay area in 1999) Keep doing what you do Sir, it's very much appreciated! Would love to ride with ya someday!

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Let me know if you ever get down here for a ride

[@skipsmoto]

Definitely an impressive machine. I'm waiting for the tech to trickle down to the more compact trail wheels.

[@wutruriding1355]

Great overview and wrap-up.

[@user-cw3nb8rc9e]

Great review. Very unique in form. I like this.

[@martinsaunders2942]

Grazie Martino! Always good to hear an appraisal by a clearly intelligent engineer who actually sees the relevant stuff, not just the gung-ho..how fast aspect! That was a really good appraisal of the V13. It is a lovely thing, but I’m simply not interested in anything heavier than my V12. At the size and weight of the 13, they cease to be micro mobility completely , and in most cases must be a comple PITA to live with on a daily basis. Great video as all ways. …Many thanks !

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Many thanks!

[@huizdeeze1075]

Thank so much for your review awesome helped me alot

[@eugenecrawley881]

Thanks Marty! Great Job Everyone!

[@patrickmckowen2999]

Great update 👍 This one and Master Pro are selling for 5500 cdn here in Ontario Canada Smart Wheels. Cheers

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Nice price, for both wheels!

[@djwhiteflour]

Is that taxed, Patrick?

[@patrickmckowen2999]

@@djwhiteflour nope, 6215

[@arevee9429]

Thanks, Marty. This isn't the wheel for me, but it's fun to hear about your group's experiences with it.

[@markricharddavies]

Excellent effort Marty, appreciate all that went into your testing and sharing. I’m in when and if the upgrade the cells.

[@laurv8370]

Very good review. I am in kinda same trade like you, i.e. long rides, paved mountain roads, and love my Master Pro, the only thing I don't like for V13 is its range. I assume (read: hope) they will make a wider version in the future, with 36mm they could add a full sheet of batteries on each side and get to 4kWh, still less than Master Pro, and a paperclip heavier, but still narrower (MP is about 50mm wider), and of a much better quality. If they do so, and it is interchangeable, I would buy the upgrade battery packs for sure.

[@MomentumProductions1992]

Hey Marty, I'm your biggest fan

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Thanks Josh :-)

[@michaelcronin1487]

I loved all the test you guys did on the V 13 good job put that thing through the ringer's I am a little like-minded like that too with the range being a little short coming kind of a drag for something that cost so much But anyway a big thanks I am while

[@atsswing8256]

Nice unicycles

[@ecotransportation1670]

Thanks marty for info Wen say extremely safe V13 it did cout at 83kmh and no range $4150? Good luck definitely not for me

[@scottsum1319]

Great conclusions (awesome Mt Wilson dirt ride btw). I'm not in its targeted consumer grp (ex30 FTW 🤩) but I enjoyed your take on it. Good stuff Marty. Dealers should you more wheels to test as its almost a 3in1 deal!

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Thanks Scott 👍

[@kmg501]

I wonder if the motor design is not optimized enough. IE perhaps further optimization would extend the range.

[@okcrc]

I want an avocado tree!

[@KiwiMark67]

You said you weren't sure of what the V12 pedals were like, my V12HT came with grip tape pedals, mine are still new because I have NyloNove Pedals on the wheel. Range - my Sherman S gives me ~140km at decent speeds (~32kph rolling average, hitting speeds up to ~65kph). I've now got 740km on my Sherman S. The V13 looks good if it isn't your only wheel (if you have something else for longer range and something else for when you don't want to lift something so heavy). Price - problem to some, no issue to some, each rider just needs to decide if they are willing to pay whatever the wheel costs them.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Thanks for the V12 info and good observations 👊

[@2disbetter]

Update came out about a week ago for EUC World. Maybe you fimed this before that, but as of today it has been out for a while.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Good to know. Thanks!

[@josiahenyart]

I think if you hold the kill switch for two seconds it will put the wheel into a permanent kill switch mode until you hold the same button again. So you can keep the power on and lift the wheel without a full power off. Let’s say it’s mid ride and you don’t want to reset the single ride specs.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Hey, great info. Thanks.

[@cdrogers72]

Thanks for the video. When you mention overheat, what temp is too hot?? I have a Kingsong S22 and there is so little info. I’m flying blind/winging it. It would be nice to know where to set the alarms at least in EUC world app. I have just been sending it with no real alarms and no tilt back ever felt. I guess I’m lucky so far, but luck will only go so long. It would be nice to have a video on EUC world app alarms for temp, max current, etc.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

The S22 is a very cool running wheel. If you see temps in the 50's (Celsius) you know that the wheel is working really hard. Most of the time it should be in the 30's to 40's. It will overheat at 79° Celsius and tilt-back to force you off the wheel. If you want to set a warning temperature in EUC World I would use 70°

[@roadtrip6075]

About the kill switch, it should be a switch rather than a button. Any downsides if we make it a switch? 🤔

[@ElectricUnicycles]

No downsides. Begode uses a switch and it works great.

[@shalaqazaq58]

On my V13 I changed the 8 bolts M6 but its were cut off soon. Very weak a fastening to axle. Need install more mighty an axle. Were burned a motor and controller. By warranty Inmotion promice to send a new but.....

[@ElectricUnicycles]

🙁

[@micheleska9014]

u have compare the v13 and sherman s.... if i can ask u, during the summer when the temperature is 40°C (104°F) between v13 and sherman, what is the best euc regarding the heat dissipation (battery and motor)? one matter is during the winter and another in the summer. Given the difference of the sensors and the shell

[@唐人街快车]

If I ever build a custom EUC wheel, I'm going to name it "The Backe Avocado One." 10:12 🥑

[@ElectricUnicycles]

😁

[@jumpyjigglesnort2232]

Wow!

[@HumbolSkitso]

THANK YOU MARTY! My internal mind battle is over lol, im waiting till the end of the year to see what those two are. Being that the V13 carried its weight SO WELL, how much more battery weight/Watthour do you think they could add to the V13 while still having that good feeling of a safe and secure ride? If they add a good amount more battery, they can probably fix the over torque issue as well.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

More battery probably means a thicker wheel which will affect the ride quality. Hard to know if the diminished torque at the high end would be affected by a bigger battery.

[@vd853]

Where did you get that navy jacket/fleece?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

American Giant Full Moto Zip: www.american-giant.com/products/mens-moto-full-zip-iron

[@mikeh6286]

Hey Marty. I noticed with your wheel nose down, you can see that your pads are not symmetrically placed left/right. Was that just accidental or intentional? I'd be curious to hear your take on it. Thanks!

[@ElectricUnicycles]

The wheel was getting used by different people. They just weren't set perfectly :-)

[@djwhiteflour]

Great wrap-up review! No problem with the light not pointing far enough ahead at night?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

The light seems perfect for me

[@stevescott5858]

I have a Master Pro 2nd batch on the way! I know you have a MP already, so any advice, tips, thoughts are greatly appreciated!!

[@Wheel_fast_euc_rider]

Ride it fast, ride it hard... and put some pads on it asap... it doesn't like to stop.. :-)

[@vtran1082]

Don't break the rim

[@Wheel_fast_euc_rider]

@Begodecrashtestdummy new rim already ordered... 750 miles.. I had to go UP the stairs at least 1x... 🙄🙃

[@ihuliige6776]

I love everything about this wheel, but the range (inefficiency) is just frustrating.

[@updlate4756]

This is like the new tech going into the luxury class vehicle first before filtering down to the economy cars. The fire protection safeguards are a big plus. The smart BMS, passive cell balancing, and extra insulation around the cells means less stress on cells, hopefully knowing something is wrong before a cell starts on fire, and if a cell does start on fire, the other cells are protected against thermal runaway. Whether it actually works is a big question. Lack of fire safety may be restricting adoption rates of PEVs. I still wouldn't buy this wheel, way too heavy and expensive, but if they can shrink the tech and make it cheaper, I'd be all over a smaller 2-3 kWh wheel with minimal risk of burning down my house / office or smoking them out... For the price of this wheel and with all the tech they're touting, I'm hoping that means the life of the wheel will be extended beyond what other wheels have been able to accomplish.

[@CameronMassie]

Haha the avocado 😂

[@IamAManNotAMadHobo]

Would you say the Veteran Sherman S is a better cruiser, while the V13 is more performance oriented?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

When I think cruiser I think distance. The S would certainly be better and it absolutely has a more comfy ride

[@IamAManNotAMadHobo]

​@@ElectricUnicycles For the money which one would you prefer?

[@thatguyjoel9885]

Well, Marty is a cruiser, and he also said it has a more comfortable ride. If I was picking between the 2, I'd go with Sherman S. I don't need that top speed, ( I wouldn't mind it, but knowing myself, don't really need it, because then I'd become comfortable ripping around at 50 mph.) For the range and for the ride, Sherman takes the win. Or buy both. It's still cheaper than a car buying both. I forget who mentioned this, but what I want to see is a tire company( Toyo, Michelin) or any solid "fringe" sport company( Fox Racing, Leatt, Troy Lee Designs, Red Bull, Alpine Star, etc) do a collab or even a line of wheels with In-Motion, Leaperkim, or Knigsong . If it happened ,theoretically some big jumps in the safety of the rider and crash proofing of the wheel itself would occur, as any one of the companies I threw out there have a ton of experience with negating high speed crashes/injuries, and could also push the performance of the wheels themselves up into the mind-blowingly fast zone. While we are here today talking about the Challenger and it's groundbreaking (and bone) 55mph or the Gotway MasterPro and it's flimsiness, just think if some companies that had road racing/ off-road experience , and like decades of it, got involved with the production and design of their own entries into the EUC world. An entirely US designed and produced wheel that was top of the elite class as well as having a multitude of options in the beginner to Intermediate classes as well? Dare we dream like that?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

@@thatguyjoel9885 unfortunately I don't think we will ever see the collaboration that you suggest (which is a great idea) because of the safety liabilities of these chinese-made products. I doubt any Western company would want to tie themselves to that

[@jamesbarry2388]

I thought you were done talking about it

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Did I say that? If I did I must have phrased the comment wrong

[@jeffwalters2840]

Been waiting for my V13 since August, now e-wheels is claiming that they are waiting on some bolts. E-wheels is not communicating very well as they said they have been waiting for bolts since February 2nd. You had the problem with the setting for the suspension, what did you have to do to fix it.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I never fixed to. Seemed to work fine in the broken setting.

[@jeffwalters2840]

Thanks Marty, and thanks for vlogging

[@videoogler]

Hi Marty, I'm just wondering if you might know how to unlock the full speed potential on the V13? No matter what the pedal softness is set to the max speed doesnt go above 37.5 mph. Did you encounter this at all?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

How many miles have you ridden. I forget what the number is but you have to ride a certain distance before it's unlocked

[@videoogler]

@ElectricUnicycles I see. I've only put a little over 40 miles on it but I seem to recall it would unlock after 30km. It was a quick message that popped up but I havent been able to find any information pertaining to it. I'll continue riding and see if it opens up at some point soon. Once again, I appreciate your help.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

@@videoogler 40-miles should be enough but I don't know what the real number is. Might be an app checkbox somewhere too. I don't have the wheel with me anymore so I can't play with the numbers. Reach out to SquallLHeart (kzbin.infopFGwmI9Ak8U?feature=share). He's extremely knowledgeable about the V13 and has one of the very early pre-production models.

[@videoogler]

Thanks Marty, I'll do that. I appreciate it.

[@DarthEUC]

dont care about kilometers... that Jacket is FIRE though....

[@ElectricUnicycles]

:-)

[@Stan0619]

This has to be the most analyzed EUC of all time.😂 I guess this shows that EUC technology have come a long way. Marty, which of the new EUCs are best out of the box?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Best of out the box? Really hard to say. If the wheel works then they are all really nice out of the box.

[@laurv8370]

It really depends what do you mean by "out of the box". Take it out and ride it? Dream on! When I got my Master Pro, there wss everything in the box, including lost screws, and all. I just had to work two days to put it together... :D

[@landocycle]

Did you get a new camera?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

No new cameras

[@landocycle]

@@ElectricUnicycles weird, the a-roll looks crisp today!

[@ElectricUnicycles]

@@landocycle Probably because it was outside with better lighting. Thanks.

[@RajinderYadav]

Good summary, this wheel is a mix bag. I wanted it, yet I don't want it. For the price and lack of range it's money/power you're wasting. However I suppose the safety and build quality is a nice touch, but can't justify the cost.

[@busybody1474]

Dev guy you can't handle a big boy wheel little sissy.. get going to your fast food job 👑

[@robm425]

Range is the biggest disappointment. Inmotion beeps 1.beep every 5 seconds is the reason I ride with EUC world and their beeps. Far more obvious what is going on with wheel