Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Black Prince, Pt 2

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The Chieftain

The Chieftain

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@EnoshII
@EnoshII 4 жыл бұрын
"stowage for two machetes" best.tank.ever
@joe125ful
@joe125ful 4 жыл бұрын
Ahaaaha:)
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of post war British vehicles had machetes. Handy if you need to use foliage etc.
@Brusselpicker
@Brusselpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Machetes were supplied for the tank crew to cut firewood for brews.
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 4 жыл бұрын
DRIVE ME CLOSER
@Yvain-fn7ao
@Yvain-fn7ao 4 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, dual wield the machete to scare off your enemies.
@sketchesofpayne
@sketchesofpayne 4 жыл бұрын
A loader was obviously on the design committee.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 4 жыл бұрын
that or they planned to put the gunner on the left and someone missed the memo and put the gunner next to the useless parascope all of this might have been worked out if this had been a production vehicle I guess
@xordus
@xordus 4 жыл бұрын
seriously. I've never seen someone stand up inside a tank before.
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 3 жыл бұрын
Along with a bow gunner. It obviously paid to be left inclined for the Black Prince.
@bornagaingeek7279
@bornagaingeek7279 4 жыл бұрын
I had a machete on my ASV 436, in the early 2000's. They're there for work rather than warfare. If you want to camouflage your vehicle, they're excellent for hacking away at branches. Though I admit, in a divisional headquarters, they were mostly sat idle.
@AgentTasmania
@AgentTasmania 2 жыл бұрын
If one wanted to they could request to be driven closer
@kidmohair8151
@kidmohair8151 4 жыл бұрын
you'll have to imagine an enraged Black Prince driver who has been brewed up out of his tank, emerging fuming, with a machete in each hand
@MrCantStopTheRobot
@MrCantStopTheRobot 4 жыл бұрын
And then you realize the tank isn't on fire, all the smoke you saw is puffing out of his nostrils.
@Captain_Seafort
@Captain_Seafort 4 жыл бұрын
Or, worse, the storage isn't for machetes - it's for a pair of khukris.
@omegamanprivate7132
@omegamanprivate7132 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer to imagine that the driver could drive close enough to cut them with his machetes. Out the hatch holes.
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 4 жыл бұрын
Cowabunga! Cowabunga indeed
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
@@Captain_Seafort if I hear a tank screaming "Ayo Ghurkali!!!" I am going to pray they're on my side.
@darthcalanil5333
@darthcalanil5333 4 жыл бұрын
"to encourage zigzaging across the battlefield"... Yeah with all of those 10 miles per hour 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it's infantry tank. Show me a zigzagging at 10mph infantryman with full gear?
@billyclement5141
@billyclement5141 4 жыл бұрын
Meh, it was a prototype. If the Army still wanted infantry tanks it would have gotten a Meteor like everything else the Brits fielded from '46 on. It would have made about 20-22mph, just a couple of mph less than Centurion. The issue wasn't the big Vauxhall, it was the shiny new Leyland. Centurion had pretty much every tank in the World beat in terms of it's balance of mobility, firepower, protection, crew ergonomics- heck, it was even pretty reliable, which must have been a bit of a novelty for the war generation of Brit tankers. It made late war heavy and medium tanks obsolete overnight. The Brits didn't go back to heavy tanks until they needed to fit a 120mm gun a decade later. Even that was a temporary measure while they sorted out the L7 for Centurion...
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 4 жыл бұрын
@@billyclement5141 Every tank in the world _to the small amount of info available to brits_ T-44 was in production, early T-54 ready for it, Pershing was in production as well and advanced protypes tested. Not to mention Panther which would still be better then Centurion if allowed to undergo further modifications and to be produced with sufficient resources and time. Early Centurion wasn't the shiniest toy in the box, sorry.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 4 жыл бұрын
@@billyclement5141 But that is true, the only real future Black Prince would have had is if the bigger turret ring was part of technical requirements of ORIGINAL Churchill. Back then it had less armor thickness and thus it would have had less mass and bigger turret would have allowed to avoid 2 pounder and hull cannons. And maybe this way they would have chosen sloped front over frontal MG when they would have gotten to increasing the armor thickness. This way Meteor and 17 pounder would have just gotten onto it naturally in 1944 and britain would have had a tank that can duke it out with Tigers and Panthers in Normandy when it was needed.
@christopherreed4723
@christopherreed4723 4 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it. Any German A/T gunner who *can't* hit something the size of a tennis court moving at a breathtaking 10.5 miles per hour, zigzagging or not, on the first shot is probably either legally blind or blind drunk. Or both. Any German A/T gunner who misses said uncharacteristically mobile sports facility a second time gets handed a broken Kar98k and sent to the Eastern Front.
@johnnyzippo7109
@johnnyzippo7109 11 ай бұрын
The Black Prince is officially my favorite Tank dream of all time . The Tiger Beater that wasn’t ready for the Tiger Party , oh man , it’s just phenomenal , I luv it .
@blueboats7530
@blueboats7530 4 жыл бұрын
When an Irish-American says "the excellent British . . ." I straighten up and pay attention
@visi7754
@visi7754 4 жыл бұрын
Blue Boats. Smiles- What's your opinion on American gone Native in Uk with a wicked aka Dry/Warped sense of humour??? ¥ Xxx
@bismarckbismarck6352
@bismarckbismarck6352 4 жыл бұрын
He's not Irish American, he's Irish Greek. He moved to America later on.
@visi7754
@visi7754 4 жыл бұрын
Bismarck Bismarck. Basically Who gives a Flying Cluster Fuck in the end or Whatever their Ethnicity Is! Appreciate the Brilliant video and Excellent presentation¥ wishing You Well ~ Grins Xxx
@jame3shook
@jame3shook 4 жыл бұрын
@@bismarckbismarck6352 so, just plain American.
@bismarckbismarck6352
@bismarckbismarck6352 4 жыл бұрын
@@jame3shook Plain American would be if he was born there. If I move to Japan when I'm 20 I don't become Japanese do I. I would be a Swedish guy living in Japan.
@Mishn0
@Mishn0 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, the music level goes down while Nick is speaking! Good job, WoT, thanks!
@luksweam
@luksweam 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! That's an improvement. Now, could we just do without this generic anime style guitar?
@BrikkTopX
@BrikkTopX 4 жыл бұрын
The music is completely unnecessary. Its a stupid idea from Wargaming, since the beginning of the series.
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 4 жыл бұрын
I swear that the music went up in the middle segment while Nick was talking just to draw attention to it. And it continued for the remainder of the video.
@Mishn0
@Mishn0 4 жыл бұрын
@@markfryer9880 Yeah, it got a little loud during the gunner's seat portion, but over all, the level was a big improvement over that in the Black Prince part 1. I think they need to be given credit for that.
@Mishn0
@Mishn0 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrikkTopX But if they improve (lower the level of) the music, they should be given credit. Otherwise they won't know that we like the direction it's going. Better might not be best, but it's an improvement over worse.
@deathbynewports7745
@deathbynewports7745 4 жыл бұрын
I love suspension systems as much as the next guy... but i think the "omg the tank is on fire" entices me more lol
@roykliffen9674
@roykliffen9674 4 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong when you include some Monty Python
@RoBlackW
@RoBlackW 4 жыл бұрын
The man, who thought about fixing a sabre to his tanks gun barrel, doubts the usefulness of machetes... seriously? :D
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously, his concern was having them down by the driver precludes their easy employment in combat. Logically, they should be in a special case on the roof so the commander can swing them about shouting "Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my No. 1 Cutting Implement, Jungle!"
@RoBlackW
@RoBlackW 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the BP has Sideskirts. If not, I would have suggested to fix those machetes to the idler wheels... like those ancient persian chariots.
@xt6wagon
@xt6wagon 4 жыл бұрын
@@RoBlackW side skirts? Thats the hull side. Track goes around the hull like a very short WWI tank.
@RoBlackW
@RoBlackW 4 жыл бұрын
@@xt6wagon Yep, you're right. My bad...
@OzjishKahn
@OzjishKahn 4 жыл бұрын
"Sign off for your two machetes."
@Archimondeoo
@Archimondeoo 4 жыл бұрын
My theory on the periscope is that the loader has a lot more time for observation than the gunner does. The gun is already loaded and ready to engage, this vehicle is lying in ambush. The gunner is adjusting the shot off of the loader and commanders instructions when a target appears. Loader only has to stop observing when rounds start flying and the main sight is already on target.
@OHJUSTFORKU
@OHJUSTFORKU 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was...OH BUGGER the tank is on fire....
@danieltaylor5231
@danieltaylor5231 4 жыл бұрын
Well he did live in California for a while.
@sketchesofpayne
@sketchesofpayne 4 жыл бұрын
@@danieltaylor5231 Californian: "Ahmahgawd! The tank is, like, LITERALLY on fire!"
@robertscott2210
@robertscott2210 4 жыл бұрын
@@sketchesofpayne Totally!
@asdic888
@asdic888 4 жыл бұрын
@@sketchesofpayne Hella bummer, dude.
@philipbossy4834
@philipbossy4834 4 жыл бұрын
Dual wielding machete driver is an interesting surprise in the crew stats. Could be useful in a jungle warfare situation, or to give some melee options if the crew has to fight dismounted.
@ravenouself4181
@ravenouself4181 2 жыл бұрын
Or to settle any disputes of personal items ownership
@Surv1ve_Thrive
@Surv1ve_Thrive 7 ай бұрын
Cutting cam
@geebards
@geebards 4 жыл бұрын
Another great broadcast - I always enjoy these inside the hatch episodes. I was watching an old movie "Theirs is he Glory" filmed in 1945 last night and it makes me think that the Chieftain doesn't properly appreciate how small men were in Britain by 1945. They were much smaller framed as a whole due to two world wars worth of rationing with a period of depression poverty in between for good measure. Today we are all over-fed and battle with obesity and have done for at least three decades to the same extent Brtis fought hunger and malnourishment. I think they had more room inside the turret that you'd think.
@charlesadams1721
@charlesadams1721 4 жыл бұрын
The Chieftan refers almost exclusively in regards to height. In many tanks, a person of below-average height even in the 1930s and 1940s would find the headroom less than optimum. I don't think he has ever addressed the girth of a tank crewman other than the size of some tank door in some French and British tanks. As to the question of rank doors (hatches) he has spoken about the myth of the 'small hatch Shermans' and how the hatch size was more than sufficient for him.
@duncanhamilton5841
@duncanhamilton5841 4 жыл бұрын
Much of it is down to infant/child nutrition being hugely better now (or worse, depending on your view point). Also, Army fitness (and general fitness in athletic circles) was focused on stamina and endurance rather than absolute strength. My Grandfather was a pre-war regular in Coldstream Gds, eventually retiring in the 50s. He was tall at 6', but was not a broad man by modern standards. Interestingly, he commanded Churchills during 44-45 with Guards Armoured, and considered the Churchill a nice roomy tank.
@charlesadams1721
@charlesadams1721 4 жыл бұрын
@@duncanhamilton5841: Perhaps. I grew up in the 1960s and 1970s and knew quite a few men who were in various Armies during WWII (including my father and three uncles), a bunch of Germans and Austrians who emigrated to the US after the war as well as more than a few Brits who came to the US as well (I grew up in the Washington, DC area) and many of these men were at least 5'8" in height. They were not mostly heavily muscled me, but they weren't small men by any measure. Now, if you say that malnutrition was not a problem for people from America, but you couldn't tell the difference between the Americans and Europeans until they spoke. As to the Black Prince, I think people are taking umbrage over Nick's comments about the size of the turret, well, if you look at the room in the hull. where Nick has an insane amount of room when he is is the drivers and co-drivers seats. Please note how he has to reach way over to his left to open the emergency hatch. I think he was surprised by the relatively tight quarters of the tank commander and gunner.
@tlw4237
@tlw4237 4 жыл бұрын
​@@duncanhamilton5841 I had an uncle who was a Matilda II gunner in the desert campaign then transferred to Churchills. He once said he thought that compared to Matilda the later Churchill marks were positively luxurious. He died in the late 1970s and with hindsight there’s lots of questions I should have asked him but never did. It would have been interesting to know what he or other tankers of his generation made of modern MBTs’ ergonomics had he been able to see the Chieftain’s videos. As for the Guards, they always only recruited tall men - one of my wife’s grandfathers was in the Household Cavalry from 1917 to 1938. We’ve a photo of him in everyday dress (overalls, not the fancy stuff worn when on ceremonial duties) standing next to his horse. He was over 6 ‘ tall but not heavily built. He missed the First World War because by the time he was considered sufficiently trained it was already over. He tried to re-enlist in 1940 but was rejected on age grounds and because after leaving the army he’d immediately got a job on a farm (experience with big horses being very useful until tractors became ubiquitous post-war) and agricultural work was a reserved occupation.
@mbr5742
@mbr5742 2 жыл бұрын
It varies a lot. My grandfather (fathers side) and step-grandfather(mothers side) grew up during WW1 and they where both tall man (over 180cm, one a Westfalian, one a Pommerian). As are my father and his brothers (born 1934-1938) with my father at 182cm being the smallest and youngest. So genetics play a role (family on fathers side is larger than average by around 10cm compared to most neighbours. They all worked for the same company so food is not the main item)
@brucewestcott7839
@brucewestcott7839 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I have seen a picture of a German sailor (?) standing beside a knocked out Churchill on the beach at Dieppe and he is waving a machete. I took it to be a weird one-off but maybe not. Were Churchill’s also equipped with machetes?
@pdallen8355
@pdallen8355 4 жыл бұрын
They were standard issue.
@88porpoise
@88porpoise 4 жыл бұрын
They are very useful tools. Hacking up some foliage for camouflage or for moving dismounted in the jungle for various reasons, maybe cutting up some material for a fire. The machete is a tool not a weapon.
@rileyernst9086
@rileyernst9086 11 ай бұрын
All British tanks had machetes for cutting branches with to use to canoflague the vehicle. Although I have encountered an account where the unit's chaplain took it on himself to remove bodies from knocked out tanks(this was a duty the men were meant to fulfill, but the chaplain wanted to spare the men of the unpleasantness of this duty, and it was something he could do to help the men on top of his spiritual duties.) Now if you have ever asked yourself how exactly you would get a dead body our of a tank, well its basically impossible if the body is not dismembered and he used a tank machete for this purpose.
@kikufutaba1194
@kikufutaba1194 4 жыл бұрын
Major Moran, I really love your reviews. I have never seen a real AFV, as of yet but when I finish at university I will try to visit the Bovington tank museum. Your work demonstrating vehicles gives us who have no concept of what it requires to use these vehicles at least a bit of insight. Thank you so much for your efforts.
@lkchild
@lkchild 4 жыл бұрын
Heads up: That’s a wireless set 38 AFV on top of the 19 set.
@CatBroiler
@CatBroiler 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the machette would be to encourage the driver to awaken his inner 'Mad' Jack Churchill.
@alexandercrichton1779
@alexandercrichton1779 4 жыл бұрын
Or to awaken the hull gunner
@spazbauer
@spazbauer 4 жыл бұрын
The song was lovely
@rvail136
@rvail136 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always. Thanks for taking the time to produce this. Always wondered what the inside looked like.
@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214
@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 4 жыл бұрын
Americans: good ergonomics lead to better performance by the crews. British: what in the hell is an ergonomic?
@a_random_tank_152mm7
@a_random_tank_152mm7 4 жыл бұрын
Robb Omega Vulka Fenrika The russians would like to talk to you...
@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214
@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 4 жыл бұрын
@@a_random_tank_152mm7 Russians: fuck Ergonomics, we go for economic. Demetri, the Comrades, and myself have built fifty seven tanks in the last year, and only two had seats.
@keithlarsen7557
@keithlarsen7557 4 жыл бұрын
I think the machetes are for clearing brush... or cooking.
@asdic888
@asdic888 4 жыл бұрын
Hot knives?
@teresawright4454
@teresawright4454 4 жыл бұрын
Seems useful for acquiring materials for concealment
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like the driver and A.N.Other got the job of cutting foliage to camouflage the tank while the bow gunner stood guard with the tommy gun. 😁
@lkchild
@lkchild 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video - it’s great to see more of the British tanks :)
@lhkraut
@lhkraut 4 жыл бұрын
Now I have two reason to watch these videos. The amazing info, and Monty Python!
@Sturminfantrist
@Sturminfantrist 4 жыл бұрын
I remember i talking with the Tankcrew and playing in a FV432 during the autumn manouvre of the BAOR when i was a boy in early 70s and this vehicle had a Machete mounted on the Troop exit Door, i played with it too
@hallamhal
@hallamhal 4 жыл бұрын
This video features the greatest thing Britain created in the whole 20th Century! Monty Python of course!
@tomservo5347
@tomservo5347 4 жыл бұрын
Machetes are actually a good idea for cutting brush to camouflage the tank and clearing it away for an ambush or covered area to park.
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 8 ай бұрын
Machetes are for camouflage and other jungle work... given the size of this thing i wouldn't be surprised if a cutlass wasn't included..
@mungo7136
@mungo7136 4 жыл бұрын
Right hand drive - problem on the Continent? While plausible, I am absolutely sure that it is not 50-ton beast that sees any problem in it. It is always right :)
@tanall5959
@tanall5959 3 жыл бұрын
Once you get over about five tons ground pressure, the right of way goes to whoever has the most mass!
4 жыл бұрын
Watching this video and seeing how much sheer room the smoke launcher took up, I completely understand why modern tanks have them mounted on the outside and just have a small switch system inside. You could put another 6 or 8 boxes of coax ammo for the room that smoke launcher took up. Or another 8 rounds of main gun. Every inch of a tank interior is needed room.
@01ZombieMoses10
@01ZombieMoses10 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the MA-CHE-TEH. Keep your thomp son.
@howardchambers9679
@howardchambers9679 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he said "Firefry" at one point. Which seemed a little heartless
@Vtarngpb
@Vtarngpb 8 ай бұрын
Not sure if I was the only one who heard it, but when talking about the driver’s hatch, at first I heard “as long as the Gunner’s not depressed.” #tankcrewfeelings 😂
@ABrit-bt6ce
@ABrit-bt6ce 4 жыл бұрын
Found myself trying to stop whatever thing I had open that was making music noises. Nope, It's this.
@andrewphillips8341
@andrewphillips8341 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly they never will get rid of it.
@warci
@warci 4 жыл бұрын
finally I can understand what you're saying over that horrible music
@markhudson2088
@markhudson2088 4 жыл бұрын
Chieftain, nobody is here for the music. It's just distracting from the facts, feel free to delete it! :-/
@herman2959
@herman2959 4 жыл бұрын
You mean that awesome music
@aapelikahkonen
@aapelikahkonen 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Hudson it is not up to him. WG edits these videos. The ones Chieftain produces himself have no music.
@soulslaveone
@soulslaveone 4 жыл бұрын
@@johncarlaw8633 No. Its just annoying, and its 4 bars over and over and over.... Chieftain doesnt need it, we dont need it and its completely uncalled for. "I miss that 4-bar generic rock-loop" -nobody ever said.
@josephbaca9681
@josephbaca9681 4 жыл бұрын
l only lasted six minutes three seconds with that horrible music...
@bryonrbn
@bryonrbn 4 жыл бұрын
Love the rendition of the Philosopher's Song at the end!
@markcantemail8018
@markcantemail8018 4 жыл бұрын
Chieftain nice Exit . Thank you I was hoping that you would use that Hatch . Music was low enough that I could hear your voice . Great video .
@dofood7277
@dofood7277 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of revisiting some of the tanks from your first videos to give them an updated microphone and visual quality, the difference between your Comet video and this one is night and day
@VonRammsteyn
@VonRammsteyn 4 жыл бұрын
0:11 This will sound silly but, what is that cloth arround the main gun and what is its function? Anybody?
@Feiora
@Feiora 4 жыл бұрын
Environmental Cover, aka dust cover... It keeps the rain, dust and any other debris from entering the tank thru the gap between turret and mantle so basically its acting just like a tarp, but a tighter fit to cut down on any debris getting into the joints.
@VonRammsteyn
@VonRammsteyn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Feiora Thank you bro!
@mudcrab3420
@mudcrab3420 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, wasn't expecting to discover the Philosopher's Song at the end. (also wasn't expecting to discover I still knew all the words!)
@paulschauer6273
@paulschauer6273 4 жыл бұрын
That Monty Python reference is GOLD
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
Already audited this on WG's channel. But, since you have an existence independent of the gaming company and community, I am auditing it here, too. Liked and shared with ex-tankee friend (M60 and Bridge Tank driver)
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for WG to release your Panzer IV video. Too long in coming, IMHO.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if question from comments are accepted for Q&A or it is mostly done with Patreon, but here is one: There are a lot of discussions about alternate paths tank developement in various countries might have taken, most prominent being USA, USSR and Germany of course:( However, in line with those discussions as well as existence of Black Prince and suprisingly long career of Valentine, *was there an alternative route for Matilda to take?* Yes, Churchill was supposed to replace other infantry tanks, but we know that Valentine stayed and was upgraded up to being somewhat an analogue to early T-34-76 and T-34-57 in terms of armament and protection if not in mobility. Was it possible to expand the lifespan of Matilda by squeezing enough from it to make it a full equivalent of KV-1 tanks? And use that expansion of its line of duty to instead demand bigger turret ring on Churchill from the beginning? I know that there were attempts to put different turret on Matilda and put 6 pounder in it, there was russian attempt to upgun modified turret to 76mm gun and there were versions with 75mm very low velocity howitzers/launchers. So what stopped Matilda's modernization? Was there no mass reserve in suspension left? Would the turret of first Churchill allow enough space if put on Matilda? And what guns would Churchill 1 have if it would be created with bigger turret ring to begin with? Was it possible to use the naval AA guns that were used to make Gun Carriers, but in a turret? Or even put a renowned 25 pounder into it?
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault 4 жыл бұрын
The Matilda basically was deployed at its peak state. It lacked any real upgradablity. A major issue is it lacked size. There was a prototype with a 6pdr Cromwell turret, however it wasn't really worth the hassle. And the Russians tried shoving a 75mm into it, but again, no good, too small. The Churchill was a rather narrow tank and could not fit a 17pdr turret at all nor the 3inch 20cwt. It could have had a 25pdr howitzer, but it would be priest like with a big ol' turret.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 4 жыл бұрын
@@tisFrancesfault 1)Valentine also wasn't ideal, but it was told to soldier up. You should also consider the turret ring of Matilda and normal Churchill. Space CAN be made with new turret. But new turret ADDS weight. The question is if it was possible to squeeze some from suspension. 2)I mentioned those attempts. They were using "alien" turret as well as one that was simply extended. I however mean completly new one designed for the task. Once again, think of later Churchill turrets, but with less armor thickness ie weight. 3)that's why I talk about changing Churchill at drawing board to have turret ring of Black Prince. It would be wider and heavier, BUT this is long before Churchill started to fatten up with armor. It also means that we wouldn't have to worry about hull cannon as we wouldn't be using 2 pounder in the first place. Unless someone comes up with theidea to coax it with 25 pounder howitzer. Then maybe it'll make some sense. But that's still a mad idea and main point is to get rid of that gun. Both naval AA 3 incher and 25 pounder are big girls, but so is 17 pounder. Even more so in fact. And yet here it is in BP. We can also argue that due to weight constraints when uparmoring, they'd be more inclined to get rid of frontal MG and just slope the armor. As well as add more ammo to main gun. And obviously Meteor will end up on this tank naturally as it'll be in service for several years instead of competing with Centurion.
@IndianaDel1
@IndianaDel1 4 жыл бұрын
Contact Brin Symons on ARRSE. He was a (the?) gunner on the Black Prince test team. He even "forgot" to return the tank blue prints and has them as a PDF
@DarkRavin07
@DarkRavin07 4 жыл бұрын
Song at the end was awesome.
@JDARJISJ
@JDARJISJ 4 жыл бұрын
The philosophers song! Back in my misspent youth I would test how drunk I was by trying to sing it fast as I could without error.
@ThroneOfBhaal
@ThroneOfBhaal 4 жыл бұрын
Need those machetes. How else do you fight off boarding actions?
@tankolad
@tankolad 4 жыл бұрын
Nice scowl in the thumbnail there, Nick.
@charlesflint9048
@charlesflint9048 4 жыл бұрын
I love the little rhyme at the end.
@Imbeachedwhale
@Imbeachedwhale 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the oddly positioned roof sights and machine gun feed were based on an original plan to put the gunner and commander on the left a la Churchill. When that changed, they made some changes, but the turret has already been cut. On subsequent vehicles, they would have corrected this error.
@hart-of-gold
@hart-of-gold 4 жыл бұрын
Same for the loader's seat, let's install it here until someone finds a better, workable position.
@JohnDoe-vm5rb
@JohnDoe-vm5rb 4 жыл бұрын
The machine-gun feed is most likely costs and standardization: sure, you can make parts to feed it from the left but if you're familiar with production (and/or you watch Forgotten Weapons) the biggest cost for a project in terms of cost is *always* tooling. You can spend precious money your country doesn't really have (the uk was bankrupt and propped up on american loans at the end of the war) making specific bits that are only going to be used on a specific prototype/tank.... ...or you can slap a bit of metal on to make feed it from the 'correct' side for a fraction of the cost. This might just be wishful thinking, but I suspect having the box there perhaps makes it easier to change ammo.
@stuglife5514
@stuglife5514 4 жыл бұрын
“Just because I have to do it, Oh my God the tank is on fire” *smirks at camera* tankyou tank Jesus
@CthulhuInc
@CthulhuInc 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha the philosopher song - nice! rip terry jones
@iluvanielle
@iluvanielle 4 жыл бұрын
Stowage for two machetes. Danny Trejo would be proud. 😁
@hart-of-gold
@hart-of-gold 4 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure the gunner in the AC-1 Sentinel fought kneeling on the floor given the levels of the sights and controls. Also the gun was free in elevation like other British tanks the Australians had access to. Kneeling, the sights would still likely be too low for you as normal height was shorter then. Not saying it was a good design but fighting from the seat was impossible.
@uniball5667
@uniball5667 7 ай бұрын
2:55 Crazy to see a British military vehicle with Cyrillic as the secondary language.
@neilcameron2219
@neilcameron2219 3 жыл бұрын
Two machetes' " Incredibly useful on the modern battlefield". My service long post dates the Black Prince ( CVRT Scimitar 1980's, Cold Ware BAOR) but the machete is an incredibly useful tool: Cutting camouflage, disposing of roots in shell scrape, clearing mud from running gear (shovels too big to get into nooks and crannies). CQB mo'fo given how pish the SA80 bayonette was/is
@wazwulf2698
@wazwulf2698 5 ай бұрын
love to see MR hewes do this one next !!
@glynwelshkarelian3489
@glynwelshkarelian3489 4 жыл бұрын
Good to find a youtube channel so soaked in philosophy.
@Tuulos
@Tuulos Жыл бұрын
At least there was still a little hope for this one if the developers believed in it. My favourite must be the Valmet M82, parachute trooper prototype version of AK that nobody believed in, not even the people who ordered the development nor the people who developed it. It was pretty much done to have solid proof that it's a bad idea.
@easttennesseerailfan1057
@easttennesseerailfan1057 4 жыл бұрын
“... a Tiger beater, in a world where nobody cared about Tigers anymore...” Priceless! Lol
@ronmoore5827
@ronmoore5827 4 жыл бұрын
Did I hear the seat has a good range of emotion? Sad to happy perhaps?
@asdic888
@asdic888 4 жыл бұрын
A good range of emotion prepares you for significant emotional events.
@zachsmith1676
@zachsmith1676 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect the off centre periscopes for the driver are meant to aid when turning
@MadCatmkII
@MadCatmkII 4 жыл бұрын
I guess it would really help during the zigging and the zagging.
@lkchild
@lkchild 4 жыл бұрын
it stop it getting in the way while driving normally
@Blizzardmane
@Blizzardmane 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair the machetes were probably for use in cutting down bushes and branches to clear an area, an obstacle or create camouflage
@ssgtslick
@ssgtslick 4 жыл бұрын
What's with the cyrilic markings on that radio?
@saxtonhille8209
@saxtonhille8209 4 жыл бұрын
Did the UK buy russian radios? 2:55
@lkchild
@lkchild 4 жыл бұрын
No, the UK supplied tanks to Russia, hence dual language where needed.
@АндрейРыжаков-э5ч
@АндрейРыжаков-э5ч 4 жыл бұрын
That's radio from british vehicle, that was lend-leased to USSR and then came back.
@thecommissarshatisonfirege4193
@thecommissarshatisonfirege4193 4 жыл бұрын
Other way around
@charlesadams1721
@charlesadams1721 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecommissarshatisonfirege4193: are you saying that the Russians made a British designed radio and stenciled English language directions on the radio and then sent it back to the Tank Museum? The British and the Americans sent huge numbers of war materials to the Soviet Union via Lend-Lease, including tanks airplanes. The Americans sent absolutely huge numbers of food, fuel, and vehicles, even whole truck factories to the Soviet Union via various programs. Radios were a very common item to be sent by the Brits to the Soviets.
@axestal1
@axestal1 4 жыл бұрын
@@АндрейРыжаков-э5ч I think Britain have huge pile of this radios on both languages even after war, so why waste?
@keozer9556
@keozer9556 4 жыл бұрын
12:25 from my experience playing war thunder my gun is always depressed
@blazer19752003
@blazer19752003 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a review of the King Tiger tank
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 жыл бұрын
Not yet.
@americanexcursions3542
@americanexcursions3542 4 жыл бұрын
Any explanation why the radio also had Russian below English?
@Bochi42
@Bochi42 4 жыл бұрын
@The_Cheiftain or anyone who can reach him. I'd like to see a video about tanker head gear of WW2. Was looking at some photos of Soviet tankers with their padded ones & I know he's gone off on berets but seems like in addition to Oh my god the tank is on fire a bit about Oh my god this terrain is rough or I'm just trying to do my job here but banged my head & got myself a concussion would be fun. Well maybe fun isn't the word I'm looking for but you get my drift right?
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 жыл бұрын
Not one overall, but I do go over the US helmet in my Tanker Equipment video
@HoneyBadger--sl6wi
@HoneyBadger--sl6wi 4 жыл бұрын
You should visit this museum in my state the Arkansas national guard museum it has 1 of only 10 m247 sgt york ANTI AIR!! You would enjoy it
@CruelDwarf
@CruelDwarf 4 жыл бұрын
Why there were markings in Russian at radio set? Was the set salvaged from some lend-lease tanks?
@Hebdomad7
@Hebdomad7 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many churchill's had bicycle bells installed on the drivers handle bars ...
@Finwolven
@Finwolven 4 жыл бұрын
The machetes are there for the day Danny Trejo happens to be at Bovington when the Zombie Apocalypse happens. They were just thinking ahead.
@renngretsch
@renngretsch 4 жыл бұрын
"Centurion...With that tank in the works, what was the point of Black Prince??????" EASY!!!! The Chieftan!
@user-wf2lm3vi7o
@user-wf2lm3vi7o 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry. Thought of Richard Richard (Rik Mayall) saying “Ohh, err!” & having that expression...
@RonGardener4142
@RonGardener4142 4 жыл бұрын
Props for the Monty Python drinking song! "Heidegger Heidegger was a boozy beggar..."🍻🍺🐨
@billy4072
@billy4072 4 жыл бұрын
Commanders vain sight. A mirror.
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting if the Challenger 2 had instead been Black Prince. I think it's a fantastic name that's been underutilized.
@sketchesofpayne
@sketchesofpayne 4 жыл бұрын
Well, this tank was obviously cancelled because it did not adhere to the starts-with-a-"C" naming scheme.
@f14tomcata88
@f14tomcata88 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question if a tank from North African campaign went to the Italian front did they repaint it
@1967davethewave
@1967davethewave Жыл бұрын
It's cool that at least one survives.
@cpt_nordbart
@cpt_nordbart 4 жыл бұрын
Well... Now I feel bad I already watched it on WoTNA....
@mihaiserafim
@mihaiserafim 4 жыл бұрын
I will pretend this is the extended version.
@sketchesofpayne
@sketchesofpayne 4 жыл бұрын
You only watch these once? I queue them all up in a playlist and let them run in the background while I'm working on something.
@MrDgwphotos
@MrDgwphotos 4 жыл бұрын
I refuse to give them any views.
@richardvalens7989
@richardvalens7989 4 жыл бұрын
Chieftain!!!, ♥️
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 жыл бұрын
Richard!!!
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 4 жыл бұрын
Daddy
@richardvalens7989
@richardvalens7989 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch l adore the content. Back from the grave to watch!! 🙃
@soulslaveone
@soulslaveone 4 жыл бұрын
This show is the best there is on youtube. If it only wasnt for that awful background music. You dont need it, Chieftain. Please, stop it.
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the "Black Prince" and personally believe it is what the "Churchill" should have been to start with. That said 20/20 hindsight is no basis for academic critical engagement.
@DornishVintage
@DornishVintage 4 жыл бұрын
It's just that by the time the Churchill was designed, nobody ever thought you would need to fit a 17pdr inside a tank.
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 4 жыл бұрын
@@DornishVintage That was a failure of thinking or possibly espionage. I would think it should have been obvious that no matter what tanks you are facing now, they will be improved rapidly during war. EG the Panzer III going from 15mm of armour to 30mm in less than a year, The 37mm was upgraded to 50mm too.
@Max-hb9yu
@Max-hb9yu 4 жыл бұрын
Gordon Lawrence I’m pretty sure the panzer 3 was originally meant to use the 50mm gun but the gun wasn’t ready until after the fall of France.
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 4 жыл бұрын
@@Max-hb9yu There is a huge amount of debate on that. I'm not sure which side is correct.
@gavinhudson5251
@gavinhudson5251 4 жыл бұрын
Not a bad design really for a tank that nobody wanted. It should have had the Meteor, but they were obviously earmarked for the RAF.
@walt_man
@walt_man 4 жыл бұрын
Thought the steering bar was a safety rail for tall people! ;p
@jamesocker5235
@jamesocker5235 Жыл бұрын
Nice Monty python at the end
@chaswalker2038
@chaswalker2038 4 жыл бұрын
The machetes were supplied for cutting fresh camouflage.
@binaway
@binaway 4 жыл бұрын
This is a prototype. Protruding bolts and metal parts inside the Churchill caused many injuries and British tankers also lacked the helmets worn by US tank crew. Is this vehicle as bad.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 4 жыл бұрын
why would right hand or left hand drive matter for a tank though
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 4 жыл бұрын
At 2:55 why is it written in Russian?
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of radios were built for lend lease.
@simongee8928
@simongee8928 4 жыл бұрын
And I thought it was only the Germans who put the same engines in heavier tanks, then wondered why it was underpowered.
@mikehenthorn1778
@mikehenthorn1778 4 жыл бұрын
I think you got a bit scorched trying to get out. Lol
@beefstew6512
@beefstew6512 4 жыл бұрын
reuploaded?
@kclcmdrkai1085
@kclcmdrkai1085 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that the Primary site ; World of Tanks, NA; has first dibs to post & view and then The_Cheiftain can post to his own page, I think??? Oh, Bugger, The Tank Is On Fire!! 17:10
@N_Wheeler
@N_Wheeler 4 жыл бұрын
13:32 that is called a 'yoke'
@LeewardStudios
@LeewardStudios Жыл бұрын
So enjoy the philosophers drinking song!
@alexfish3120
@alexfish3120 4 жыл бұрын
That's quite an interesting tank TBH, like A British cousin of the Tiger
@sketchesofpayne
@sketchesofpayne 4 жыл бұрын
So, like a puma?
@wot1fan885
@wot1fan885 4 жыл бұрын
Chieftain you ever break anything that was VERY important or not fixable ?? Strange question I know . Next inside tanks batchat vive la France : ) . Next very important question how do you do number 2 in old tanks ?? Old casings ?? Escape hatch ?? Your buddies boots ??
@The_Ninedalorian
@The_Ninedalorian Жыл бұрын
World of Tanks Challenge: In Black Prince in a Tier IX battle, destroy ALL of the Enemy Heavy tanks, Get a Top Gun, Steel Wall and High Caliber. Good luck vuz you are gonna need it for this absolutely impossible Challenge
@Disbandeddeath1
@Disbandeddeath1 4 жыл бұрын
Will you do a history video on prinz eugen and please can you explain if german ships were hes or shes please trying too settle an argument
@Max-hb9yu
@Max-hb9yu 4 жыл бұрын
cody biersack I pretty sure that the only ship that was refers to as a male was the Bismarck and that was only by the captain. I could be wrong though.
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