Inside the Latter-day Saints' Washington D.C. Temple

[@HumanBeanbag]

I went in there a couple weeks back! It was like a never ending series of 5 star hotel lobbies. It went on and on but never really went anywhere.

[@michaeldenova4562]

I hope you took to opportunity to scan the QR codes and look at the write ups as you entered each room. Unfortunately, there just wasn't time to chat with the ushers. Thank you for going.

[@lara___3524]

Who likes windowless rooms? Not me for sure...

[@jasonaltig985]

Imagine if the Mormon cult did useful things with all that money.

[@ClamMan1989]

Imagine thinking æsthetics and mindfulness are not useful.

[@jasonaltig985]

@@ClamMan1989 mindfulness of what? Cult beliefs? This is just a cult flaunting their money. Never mind starving people when you can have a pretty building right?

[@DavidFilmore]

So, in the afterlife you get to spend all eternity with your family? But, what do you get if you've been good though?

[@kathywhitehead9414]

That really made me laugh!

[@DavidFilmore]

@@kathywhitehead9414 Glad you liked it :)

[@estherlewis7458]

@@Charalldredge God offers you forgiveness of sins, salvation, eternal life and exaltation for free, if you are interested. That is how much God loves you! ❤ Read the New Testament!

[@Charalldredge]

@@estherlewis7458 I’m quite aware of the Bible. I was born and raised Catholic. Thanks for the info though!

[@michaeldenova4562]

David, this really is funny and well said. On the serious side, I do know folks who are afraid they will be stuck with a spouse or family member who they don't like in this life. I don't know if we become more likeable in the next life. There really is so much that we don't know about the next life. We are told we will be happy and we just have to believe that this is true and that God will sort it all out.

[@JurisJoshua]

Growing up, riding along 495, we thought this was Disney world lol

[@Bobred1965]

I toured this in 1974, I was 9 years old. I never forgot it.

[@user-pw2bp2jq5g]

they are giving xanax vibes

[@tiadavenport5465]

Why are you promoting a cult?

[@jeffs4483]

@Happy Flowers LDS is a cult.

[@jlewis8145]

@Happy Flowers In a Christian context, the definition of a cult is, specifically, “a religious group that denies one or more of the fundamentals of biblical truth.” A cult is a group that teaches doctrines that, if believed, will cause a person to remain unsaved. A cult claims to be part of a religion, yet it denies essential truth(s) of that religion. Therefore, a Christian cult will deny one or more of the fundamental truths of Christianity while still claiming to be Christian. The two most common teachings of Christian cults are that Jesus was not God and that salvation is not by faith alone. A denial of the deity of Christ results in the view that Jesus’ death was insufficient to pay for our sins. A denial of salvation by faith alone results in the teaching that salvation is achieved by our own works. The two most well-known examples of cults today are the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons. Both groups claim to be Christian, yet both deny the deity of Christ and salvation by faith alone. Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons believe many things that are in agreement with or similar to what the Bible teaches. However, the fact that they deny the deity of Christ and preach a salvation by works qualifies them as cults.

[@tionalkcore]

As a kid, I always thought it was Disney World 🤣 My mom corrected me every time but I never believed her haha.

[@katiebarker8264]

I think all of us kids growing up in the MD/DC/VA area thought that!

[@jeffliles5478]

it is Disneyworld lol my Bible says that stuff is not going to work.

[@rebeccalarson7995]

It's better than Disney World. There is no joy on earth that represents or comes close to the Lord's joy that he gives us. I used to live in the DC area and I always got a joyful feeling when I saw this temple and more so when I entered it.

[@Mibs-Mibby]

My uncle actually tricked my mom that it was Disney World and she believed it for the longest time 😂

[@hyll6700]

@@rebeccalarson7995 You mormons are disgusting.

[@jovialbivouacker99]

What a waste of resources!

[@kandy5889]

what a joke!!!! feed the people NOT YOUR BUILDINGS !!!!! SHAME !!!!!

[@michaeldenova4562]

The Church does a lot of humanitarian work.

[@williamexmormon3792]

I'm an exmormon now

[@jlewis8145]

Jesus said, Follow me. John 10:27

[@williamexmormon3792]

Yeah I believe that that's what I learned at his house Christian Church I'm the ex Mormon now

[@aceuni-rider6921]

I pray that you may come back to the fold of God

[@williamexmormon3792]

Well it's not going to happen people being judgmental of my tourette's it's frustrating I'm never coming back I promise you that

[@jeronimogarcia8772]

I hope people of color are aware of their racist past and their obsession with white skin. It's even written in their so-called book of Mormon; 2 Nephi 5:21-23.

[@cohneh104fifita7]

After y’all read that scripture read this one, 2nd 26:33.

[@jlewis8145]

It's all good. Black skin can turn white. In fact, black skin can turn whiter than white people's skin. O my brethren, I fear that unless ye shall repent of your sins that their skins will be whiter than yours, when ye shall be brought with them before the throne of God. Wherefore, a commandment I give unto you, which is the word of God, that ye revile no more against them because of the darkness of their skins; neither shall ye revile against them because of their filthiness; but ye shall remember your own filthiness, and remember that their filthiness came because of their fathers. - Jacob 3:8-9 And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men. - Alma 3:6 And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites. - 3 Nephi 2:15

[@johnb5254]

It wasn't until their tax free status was threatened that they reversed their policies in 1978. How convenient.

[@DrVombatus216]

What strange ritual is performed to become a part of this cult?

[@paulburn1400]

using your feelings as absolute facts and giving away ten percent of your income

[@jeromefitzroy]

My grandparents have been fighting all their lives, even staying in separate rooms, they can’t even last a lifetime much less an eternity

[@michaeldenova4562]

All that will be resolved in the next life. You will not be forced to be with people you do not like, or love, or want to be with.

[@giuseppelogiurato5718]

@@michaeldenova4562 "Heaven" is not about being with "who you like" ... You don't "go to heaven" just to visit your dead relatives or your dead kitty cat, however much you "liked" them... Please reread The New Testament, and observe what it really says about "heaven" and what always has been, is now, and always will be going on there. It has nothing to do with your earthy preferences.

[@marlenearevalomartinez5373]

Jajajaja jajajaja

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@giuseppelogiurato5718 Oh, sorry. I left out a lot of details that would have clarified my answer. However, this is what is going on in heaven - 1 Peter 4:6. There are a lot of people who were not taught the gospel while in mortality. Now they are getting a chance to hear it and decide whether or not to accept it.

[@maurendenisecoelho1414]

😂

[@jeffs4483]

Scary and anti-Biblical.

[@michaeldenova4562]

Anti-Blblical---no; different than post Apostolic, creedal Christians---yes.

[@jeffs4483]

@@michaeldenova4562 LDS is not Christian.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@jeffs4483 Luckily, you don't get to decide that. But I know why you keep saying that: If the Church of Jesus Christ is accepted as Christian, then it legitimizes the Church; then the Church deserves a seat at the table with all other Christen religions; then the Church will have greater influence.

[@jeffs4483]

@@michaeldenova4562 God has decided that the LDS is not Christian because the LDS beliefs and doctrines directly contradict the teachings of Christ from the Bible. Nice try, troll.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@jeffs4483 I am sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to do that.

[@ki4gmb]

Cool let's legitimize more cults.

[@mikeb.7381]

Latter Day Yuck

[@TheDizzleHawke]

Is that where they get the magic underwear?

[@MichaelSmith-fq3pg]

Yes. You're given the Jesus jammies at the Initiatory. After that, they can just be bought at at Deseret book or at distribution centers.

[@marvelousmitch972]

Pure wickedness nothing biblical 2 Timothy 2:15 don’t be lead to the lake of fire follow the true and living Jesus of the bible

[@jamesbarry1673]

They are a fraud...................... No more need be said about them

[@ClamMan1989]

I'm not Mormon but Catholic, but I have to say that is a stunningly beautiful building inside and out. It seems incredibly tranquil in there.

[@MichaelOfHerndon]

Thank you for your kind comment.

[@ClamMan1989]

@MichaelOfHerndon Hopefully we all make it in the end, good luck.

[@bruhbruh7660]

not seeing it

[@MichaelOfHerndon]

@@bruhbruh7660 That's ok. But what you think doesn't invalidate what ClamMan and I think or believe.

[@MichaelOfHerndon]

@@amys_20 I am curious. Have you found something better that will withstand the same scrutiny that detractors of the Church of Jesus Christ face? Please share.

[@ChrisAnnasMom]

Glorifying a cult.

[@yourturn777]

JESUS WAS POOR. The amount of money spent on this display of spirituality, could be better spent. Some of us Pray in places not so shiney.

[@monocuco818]

Jesus also commanded that Solomon build an incredibly opulent temple in which to worship God. It is a test of faith of His people. We don't just build these cause we want to, but because God commanded us to do so. It is the reason the book of Revelation says that in the last days the saints would work day and night in the temple. It is a fulfillment of that prophecy. Jesus chose to live "poor," because he only focused on the reason He came to Earth; but that has nothing to do with why He commands us to build temples.

[@jeffs4483]

@@monocuco818 The New testament did away with that nonsense. Clearly you don't understand Christianity.

[@monocuco818]

​@@jeffs4483 The new Testament never did away with temples, clearly you don't understand the Bible... clearly "christianity" has fallen away from the real teachings of Christ and the importance of temples and in some ways have distorted, changed and perverted the teachings of Christ. You could say that they preach "another gospel." Including the fact that even after Christ's resurrection His apostles continued to preach in the temple. Not to mention that in the last days, in the book of Revelation, it mentions the saints working "night and day" in the temple. All of that is from the New Testament.

[@jeffs4483]

@@monocuco818 Jesus did away with physical temples. Read the Bible again.

[@monocuco818]

@@jeffs4483 Nope, why would He teach in them and call them 'My house?" Why are there saints in the temples in the last days? He never "did away" with the temple, in fact He commands us to build them now as part of His continuing work. He still has to gather Israel, He still has to redeem the world which includes the dead from the beginning, He still has to gather Israel and fulfill all of the final prophecies. He has already done many of them, such as restoring His church in the last days, establishing the temple in the mountains etc... etc...

[@beachbum1523]

People drive past this temple, and they think of the Wizard of Oz. .....And for good reason. When confronted by the scientific contradictions and lack of evidence to support The Book of Mormon, Mormon clergymen cry out, "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!"

[@jlewis8145]

We, and each of us, covenant and promise that we will not reveal any of the secrets of this, the first token of the Aaronic priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign or penalty. Should we do so; we agree that our throats be cut from ear to ear and our tongues torn out by their roots (Temple Mormonism, p. 18).

[@michaeldenova4562]

J Lewis. I have seen you post this several places. It is unnecessary.

[@jlewis8145]

@@michaeldenova4562 If this is essential to one's salvation, why wouldn't you want everyone to know about it?

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@jlewis8145 Then let us tell our own story without the half-truths, deceptions, and ill-will of detractors and critics.

[@jlewis8145]

@@michaeldenova4562 Joseph Smith and every LDS prophet since him have preached a gospel of “do,” negating the gospel of “done” that Jesus preached and was. The LDS church is all about what it and its members must still do and be if they want to live with God (and be a god) one day. The true church is all about proclaiming what Christ has DONE to make us right with God now for all eternity. It’s a certainty. Jesus Christ canceled the record of debt that was held against us. All you need to do is accept Christ by faith. It isn't because of who you are and what you must and can do for God. It is because of who He is and what He did for you in sending Jesus to be the sacrificial offering for your sins. To be your substitute on the cross and to satisfy the demands of God's law that stands against you. Christ has done the one work that was necessary to reconcile you to God. Christ has done the one act of righteousness that could bring justification and life to all men. All Christ is asking with open arms is for you to lay down your religiosity and works at the foot of the cross and allow Christ to take it. Salvation is quite simple. Luke 18 And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.’ 13 But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”

[@skyshea5779]

These people are horrible rotten human beings

[@johnb5254]

They are racist.

[@jeffs4483]

House of Lucifer.

[@marc2789]

LDS temples: the nicest versions of Freemasonry with the super profit older than the Nestlé factory.

[@elizabethcarpenter4313]

A rose by any other name..... These people need to WAKE UP and smell Christianity.

[@Yeyee23]

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:6-10) What is the true Gospel? The son of God sacrificed Himself to atone for all the sins of man. He fulfilled the law and through faith in Him we can be justified before God. "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."(Ephesians 2:8-9) We are completely saved and justified by faith in Christ and our faith and love and appreciation to Christ for this eternal salvation causes us to do good works- those are the evidence of our salvation not the basis of it. We are saved as a result of God's mercy and grace. "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them."(Hebrews 7:25) "But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."(Romans 3:21-28)

[@tonyknowlton]

Full on crazyville

[@jeffs4483]

A house of secret satanic rituals is not a house of the lord.

[@elias6570]

Hail Satan

[@Fabedog9]

Why don’t you use that big temple to house the homeless? Jesus would. Instead of using that money to build a big temple….use the money to feed the poor. Jesus would….Jesus was humble and would never construct a huge temple like that. Be more like Jesus.

[@SaturnLibra12]

Nonsense. Jesus knew the importance of the temple which is why he went there when he was twelve and drove out the moneychangers and others who were desecrating it when he was an adult. Obviously, you don't know him very well.

[@Fabedog9]

@Happy Flowers It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God. All Jesus needed was his sandals to walk around and preach the word. No expensive temples needed. 👍❤️🙏

[@SaturnLibra12]

@@Fabedog9 Then why did his father command the Jews to build temples? He followed his father's commands. Jesus had to fulfill his father's law. Your simplistic view of Jesus means you completely missed his message and his purpose.

[@Fabedog9]

@@SaturnLibra12 Heaven and God cannot be represented in a temple. God is bigger than that. The Holy Spirit does not need a temple to touch people’s lives. God is everywhere. You can call on the Holy Spirit anywhere in the world. 🙏❤️

[@jlewis8145]

@@SaturnLibra12 God commanded the Jews to build one temple. It must be in Jerusalem. There are no second chances. Marriage is not eternal. Christ never required a masonic Endowment Ceremony. You need to read your Bible.

[@mslaerik66]

I bet it has a wonderful Food bank and homeless shelter ! NAW its just a mansion that shows a movie That members have to pay 10% of their gross income to see

[@annettedeem8126]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a massive welfare system that helps people all over the world. LDS or not.

[@mslaerik66]

Ok hear that everyone ! If you are not a mormon and need help the Mormon will help you ! go and try and see if that works for you ! You will see this lady is lying

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@mslaerik66 The individual should first do all that she can do for herself. If that is not enough, the individual should reach out to her own family for help. Next, there are also national, state, and local programs to help people in need. And the Church does help its members if necessary.

[@mslaerik66]

@@michaeldenova4562 keep giving your billion dollar cult money Mr smart guy !

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@mslaerik66 I'm sorry. I thought you wanted to know the process members are asked to follow. Some people want to take the easiest path and go straight to the bishop and ask for help. However, that just creates a dependency. Helping people to become self-reliant is a better strategy. The Church has many programs to help members and friends become more financially stable.

[@EagleEye88]

I got to go in on the open tour. Very fascinating and beautiful place! I’m not Mormon but the Mormon people are very nice and welcoming.

[@jeffs4483]

Very naïve and uninformed.

[@EagleEye88]

@@jeffs4483 I’m not uninformed friendo. I know what the religion is and the fundamental belief system. Doesn’t mean I believe it.

[@michaeldenova4562]

Eagle Eye. Thank you for your kind remarks. I really appreciate you taking the time to post this.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@EagleEye88 Thanks for the remarks. Whether is it religion, politics, etc, people will disagree about a lot of things, and that OK. But we can always be respectful and kind. I appreciate your kindness.

[@BeyondOurSolarSystem]

Yes, because they train them to be nice in public. In private mormons are not nice people

[@jlewis8145]

Jesus divides people and families. Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law - a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’ (Mat 10:34-36) The God of truth (Isa. 65:16) is the God of the Bible. Since truth divides, then Jesus would naturally divide his followers away from those who reject and hate God’s truth, even one’s natural family members. Remember, Jesus divides families: Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” (Luke 12:51-53) Those same truth rejecters become enemies to the truth lovers as they resist and persecute the follower of Jesus. To be worthy of Jesus and eternal life, one must side with God’s truth even though it divides his own family.

[@jeffs4483]

The Church of Joseph Smith of Latter Day Swindle💲🤑💰

[@noahlantor9665]

Everyone in the DMV knows that’s Disney World

[@matthewcarey3148]

Religion sure is good for business!

[@sowingtruth715]

Well their wives don’t follow the teaching of the apostle Paul in the first half of 1 Corinthians 11 I see

[@keithjohnson5398]

Interesting to learn more about other religions.

[@jefffletcher7180]

Mormonism isn't a religion it's a Business generating one trillion tax free income .

[@irenemak1302]

I agree, but for whatever reason, I found it very creepy to watch.

[@DivinePeace1102]

How is it creepy? It is a very beautiful place, designed to make you feel like you're in the presence of God!

[@wendyjones195]

I actually had a very peaceful feeling watching this

[@jefffletcher7180]

@@wendyjones195 Until you see there rituals that are Cult false prophet worshipping that has nothing to do with Christ Jesus

[@DTMyles]

Where do they sell the magic underwear? 🤣😂🤣

[@dollsNcats]

The church website I think ? Or if your in Utah desert books .

[@annettedeem8126]

@@dollsNcats Neither Jennifer.

[@jlewis8145]

"We will not reveal any of the secrets of this, the first token of the Aaronic priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign or penalty. Should we do so; we agree that our throats be cut from ear to ear and our tongues torn out by their roots." ~ 1931

[@amandahernandez2958]

The first part is still rehearsed

[@michaeldenova4562]

You are way out of date!

[@jeffs4483]

A house of wickedness.

[@onekewlbraddah8460]

THey call themselves apostles appointed by whom? lol

[@Charalldredge]

Themselves! Lol.

[@Havaseet2]

If grandma's doilies were a building, this would be the result.

[@PaulHo]

Ew.

[@andrewiglinski148]

Yup… just what Jesus imagined while there are thousands of people without a home.

[@DennisAroundtheHouse]

I read this type of comment often on stories about Temples of the Church. I think that what is needed here is more understanding of the incredible humanitarian efforts that are the results of the free donations from the members of the church, in both time and money. Then I think, rather than being cynical about such money and attention going to structures like this, the response should be, “this must be a special church to build such structures that create a membership that is so freely giving of their time, talents and interests to helping others, non-member and member alike, all over the world.”

[@andrewiglinski148]

@@DennisAroundtheHouse These temples should be built the day everyone is fed and housed. Until then God is nowhere near that temple... he's under the bridge with the people they forgot about.

[@HelibearWomble]

Judas made a similar disapproving comment to Jesus, when Mary reverently poured a bottle of expensive oil (worth the same as an average annual salary at the time) on his feet. Jesus replied to Judas “leave her alone.”

[@andrewiglinski148]

@@HelibearWomble Because he was facking with his chick.

[@susanhogg5601]

@@andrewiglinski148 Actually, he's everywhere. And members all over the globe assist in the efforts of homeless, myself included.. helping at soup kitchens and with helping people be more self-reliant. It's quite beautiful.

[@redricochet]

This was a very respectful piece. Well done

[@happylatter-daysaint3503]

I agree

[@jeffsmith9420]

How about they talk about all the tax deductions used to pay for this.

[@flamingrobin5957]

too respectful. mormonism does not have a respectable history nor does it have its origins in the true Bible, the true JESUS and the true gospel of salvation. no one should repect a religion invented by a false prophet who used divination and magic to get his religious power to deceive people so he could satisfy his lust for power and for multiple wives some of whom were children

[@faizangopal]

Looks more like a fancy room for rich folks.

[@davekon5957]

Take the tax exemption away

[@ucacheer2213]

Ask about The 2nd anointing/Endowment …😂☕️

[@Dr.Pepper001]

The big cult.

[@knittingdoula]

As a Jew, I have experienced only mutual respect and caring from my Mormon friends and neighbors. They have never tried to evangelize me (unlike other Christians), and for that I’m deeply grateful. Whenever I see missionaries in my town, I always say hello and thank them for their service to the church. Thank you for highlighting this positive aspect of the church.

[@robbypauline720]

Bless you my brother. Thank you for your friendliness to our missionaries.

[@michaeldenova4562]

Thank you for your kind remarks.

[@williamcharles2117]

Evangelizing is illegal in Israel by anyone. The LDS church used to do proxy baptisms for victims of the Holocaust till they were told to stop (though they had to be told twice). Mormon missionaries go door to door to everyone else to tell them their religion is wrong (though they pretty much sugarcoat it these days). The fact that individual Mormons might be nice people doesn't change the fact that their dogma is without merit.

[@stevengaisford4743]

We are blessed to live among a vibrant Orthodox Jewish community. They are dear friends and we love their devotion to their faith.

[@uthinkiamhot]

Mormons taught me that I was Jewish. My nonexistent jewish heritage explain why I was born in the US with relative wealth, it was my Jewish birth rite. Glad they haven't tried to convert you. That would be awkward when they start teaching you about how they believe they are Israelites.

[@shama9279]

There is no marriage in heaven, for that is of the world. Very few will make into heaven, many will not.

[@albertmaldonado8443]

They have the nerve to call themselves apostles, doesn't God hate Golden idols

[@bo214]

Waiting for the day when instead the reporter says "...the apostles and their husbands..."

[@johnb5254]

It truly is a sexist organization.

[@seizuresalad91]

It's like the Disney World of heresy.

[@SkepticalChris]

all the more reason to tax these churches

[@shogun0127]

Satanic

[@Single.White.Female]

The Mormon "religion" is just about one of the richest businesses in the world. What a shocker 💰 Everytime i go to Washington D.C. this temple is a striking reminder of that. It is beautiful. Money can bring happiness and beauty, obviously and if you don't have it, you're not in.

[@MichaelOfHerndon]

Why do others criticize the Church for good financial stewardship? Part of the reason the church has the money is because they do not have a paid clergy at most levels in the church. This allows the church to give over $1 BILLION a year to world-wide humanitarian projects.

[@isocarboxazid]

@@MichaelOfHerndonHow about that secret 100+ billion dollar slush fund? Evil people hoarding money: Mormonism is about as American as it gets. Meant in the worst possible ways.

[@jeffsmith9420]

I would love to see how much this cost. All built with 100% tax deductible money.

[@jeffsmith9420]

@@maisies1750 I don't care what you call it they need to be paying taxes on this.

[@danielstansberry5417]

Nope

[@YoureMyBlueSky2022]

According to Wikipedia, it was about $15 million in 1968. Adjusted for inflation, $15,000,000 in 1968 is equal to $131,326,106 in 2023.

[@jeffsmith9420]

@@YoureMyBlueSky2022 Again all tax exempt. Its time to tax these parasites.

[@vitalykartavykh1003]

They paid VAT on all the materials and labor, I think.

[@luluzyz]

All the money they get from members go to building the churches

[@michaeldenova4562]

Not only churches, but temples, universities, programs for the youth and members, manuals and magazines, world's largest genealogy research system (than anyone can use for free), and worldwide humanitarian relief to name just a few other programs. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ, I willingly and gladly financially support the church.

[@jlewis8145]

@@michaeldenova4562 Do you know for sure, if you were to die today, that you have forgiveness of sins and eternal life? Have you done all that you can do?

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@jlewis8145 Yes! I am doing the best I can to be a follower of Jesus Christ in word, in deed, in following His commandments, and in blessing others...and in belonging to His re-established church.

[@jlewis8145]

@@michaeldenova4562 Christ requires perfection to get into heaven. You need the righteousness of God. Matthew 5:48 Be ye perfect. The best you can will never be enough. James 2:10 For whosever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@jlewis8145 We are not perfect. That is why we have Jesus Christ as our savior, redeemer, and advocate before our Father.

[@rachelvictor3380]

The outside of the temple is stunning but the inside pales in comparison....the celestial room of straight back couches?????? Why do they not use the same grand architecture on the inside? I have dear LDS friends. I'll ask them. Unfortunately not all LDS are granted "worthy" to enter. If marriages are "sealed" for eternity in the temple, how then do allow and grant so many divorces?

[@michaeldenova4562]

Why so many divorces? Because we are human and imperfect! Sealings only work if both partners keep the promises, commandments, and the covenants they make with God and each other.

[@zachgarver7922]

I have a better answer. I don't know if temple sealed mormons have a higher divorce rate than other faiths or the general population. I do know that the stresses in a typical LDS marriage are quite often unique. One has to understand the LDS culture, but in short, at 18 and 19 year old young people are strongly encouraged, today not unfair to say "obligated" to go on a two year mission, at least for young men, where they are under extraordinary supervision and control. You then immediately get married, certainly within a year, and promptly start making babies. So think about it. Eternity is a space time concept that humans can't fully even comprehend, but the culture has you marrying someone...anyone so long as they are a returned missionary and otherwise fit the temple bill but typically were acquainted with for only a relatively short time, for eternity. When you come to understand how cultishly controlling this religion is, it actually makes perfect sense. Get the young people committed before they go off and start exploring their youth and sexuality, and keep them committed.

[@KB-hx3px]

It’s a cult that makes you wear magical underwear

[@astrangerhere]

Utter nonsense -- Intentional use of shock-words to spread misinformation. How about trying to engage in an actual discussion with intelligent communications?

[@jeffs4483]

Yup. Magic undies with masonic symbols.

[@KB-hx3px]

@@astrangerhere Oh please. We all know it. Why do you think people are leaving? It’s all utter nonsense.

[@astrangerhere]

​@@KB-hx3px I see you didn't take my invitation to have a logical discussion. "We all know it" is a worthless statement. Who is "we?" Either way, it's a fallacy of logic called appeal to popularity and is irrelevant. Groups of people, large or small, can (and do) believe lots of things but that does not necessarily make their position correct. If everyone in the world believed the world was flat it would still be round. People can do whatever they want. I don't pay attention to who is leaving or staying. (I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you got your "people are leaving" statement from either (again) "everybody" or from a source that is less than unbiased. I haven't been to the temple in years. My spiritual beliefs are something of a soup, filled with material from multiple sources. But when I see people call the church a cult, likely with little to no understanding of what the word even means or the fact that by popular definition it could be applied to just about any religion or organization, I can't help but ask where they got their information. And, 99% of the time I get responses similar to yours. "Everybody knows," "Because they do this or that ceremony," "It's been said for years," or other things. Just once I would like to talk to someone who uses the label "cult," who knows the definition of the word, to logically tell me why the church/temple qualifies for that label. I think I'm going to be waiting a while.

[@dollsNcats]

@@astrangerhere I mean my friend literally told me the only reason she’s Alive was because she had on her garments when she had a close to death work accident. She said if she hadn’t been wearing the garments she knows for a fact she would be dead . While at the time I said “wow that makes sense “ now I look back and go “wait so would I be dead because I would have been standing there in my normal underclothes that 99 % of people wear”

[@robmullin1128]

After the open house they will rip up and replace all carpeting.

[@Charmcity199]

I wish they had asked about the secret meetings held on weekday mornings between the church elders and the pre-pubescent boys. There is a lot of secrecy in this religion and knowing what I know, it borders on cult

[@michaeldenova4562]

Are you talking about early morning seminary that the youth attend before going to high school classes each day?

[@TheSailin]

I am available to help Mormons leave the LDS church. I have had a lot of experience of sharing the true gospel with many elders and sisters and they can ever defend this religion. So sad!

[@storminmormn6283]

A Cult as rich as the Mormon Church would have such a huge monument dedicated to their mythical god.

[@clavel89]

So they weirdos 🤣

[@techdadnyc]

Why is Christ still depicted in paintings with Nordic facial features rather than middle eastern ones?

[@estherlewis7458]

Obviously, Christ was a white man since dark skin is a curse.

[@jeffs4483]

Good question.

[@maclectic]

Because God is White. The Sun only appears yellow because of an atmospheric effect. It is actually pure White.

[@littlemaridee]

Great, but did they explain why they preached Black people are cursed and they wouldn't allow them to be in the clergy.

[@estherlewis7458]

The skin of black people can turn white. 3 Nephi 2:15

[@cohneh104fifita7]

WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN THAT NOR TEACH THAT. Read-> 2nd NEPHi 26:33

[@jlewis8145]

@@cohneh104fifita7 Blacks were denied the priesthood until 1978. Meanwhile in the New Testament, both men and women are priests and have been priests for 2,000 years now. I Peter 2:5; Rev. 1:6; Rev. 5:10

[@jlewis8145]

@@cohneh104fifita7 I'm glad you don't teach that black skin can turn white. Unfortunately it is the Book of Mormon the most correct book on earth. Also, blacks were denied the priesthood for over 100 years. Bruce R. McConkie As a result of his rebellion, Cain was cursed with a dark skin; he became the father of the Negroes, and those spirits who are not worthy to receive the priesthood are born through this lineage... *** When this woman discovered the land it was under water, who afterward settled her sons in it; and thus, from Ham, sprang that race which preserved the curse in the land... Now, Pharaoh being of that lineage by which he could not have the right of Priesthood, notwithstanding the Pharaohs would fain claim it from Noah, through Ham, therefore my father was led away by their idolatry. - Abraham 1:21-24,27 **************** Opposition to interracial marriage. Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so. Brigham Young - Mormon prophet Journal of Discourses 10:110 *** And if any man mingle his seed with the seed of Cain the only way he could get rid of it or have Salvation would be to come forward and have his head cut off and spill his blood upon the ground-it would also take the life of his children Wilford Woodruff - Mormon prophet Personal diary 4:97 What did a true apostle say 2,000 years ago? Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@jlewis8145 J Lewis, are you saying that women were ordained as ministers in Christ original church?

[@cullenmitvalsky1516]

Ah yes, a giant gold and white marble temple is exactly what Jesus (a poor carpenter) had in mind for his newly established faith. So ostentatious…

[@brianbrimhall6287]

It's true. Jesus was regularly in the trenches with the poor, the lepers, and the despised of society. On the other hand, it appears that spending time in the temple was also very important to Jesus as he spent significant time in the temple teaching both before and after his resurrection. He defended the sacredness of the temple with unusual, shocking zeal by overturning the tables of the money changers and driving out the "den of thieves" with a whip. He seemed to have a great balance between his time with the poor and time in sacred places.

[@jlewis8145]

@@brianbrimhall6287 Heavenly Father has already told us that there is to be only one temple and it must be in Jerusalem. Christ also claimed to be God in the flesh. That is why he was crucified. It was called blasphemy and punishable by death. Christ was not crucified because he was walking around claiming to be a created being the brother of Lucifer. That's not blasphemy and punishable by death. When you deny the teachings of Christ, you have no chance of ever getting into heaven. I urge you to read your Bible Nothing is more important than where you spend eternity.

[@brianbrimhall6287]

@@jlewis8145 Thank you, John, for your reply! I embrace the teachings of Christ. I love the Bible and Jesus, and I study every day. I sincerely pray to God to help me follow the Holy Spirit as I strive to help me keep the two great commandments. You indicated that there is only one temple, and that is in Jerusalem. I agree that God loves his temple, and Jesus defended it with shocking zeal, as I said. Would you consider the tabernacle another temple? The Jerusalem temple was patterned after it, after all. Right?

[@jlewis8145]

@@brianbrimhall6287 Jesus Christ claimed to be God in the flesh. Is that the Christ that you embrace? The tabernacle and the temple did not coexist. The Bible contradicts everything that the LDS teaches. You have a Bible. You are responsible. The true and living God is not an 'exalted man' from another planet, with a body of flesh and bone, that had to work his way to godhood, lives near a star named Kolob, is out sleeping with other women, had sex with his own spirit daughter Mary to conceive 'Christ,' damns people who deny the 'eternal principle of polygamy,' threatened to destroy Emma Smith if she didn't go along with her husbands gross immorality D&C 132:54, forces women to serve as sex objects for all eternity to some LDS man who happens to make it to the 'celestial level' of heaven, etc.. Such vile and obscene blasphemies should shock and appall you. If I said these things about your mother you would never let me into your home. You need to repent and believe the gospel. Eternity is a long time to be wrong.

[@mariheroma3698]

The whistle blower guy said you guys invested untaxed money to money making investment, that's cheating....goodluck on eternity in heaven.

[@nodnodwinkwinkV]

Yet another ridiculous behemoth of a building for a super weird cult. I bet the majority of those hotel lobby looking rooms they toured around are exclusively available for the use of these special elders as well.

[@franklesser5655]

Looks like a hotel lobby.

[@scottcharney1091]

And even more profitable.

[@dollsNcats]

What fancy hotels do you go to 🤣🤣

[@jeffs4483]

All that money for real estate development on opulent buildings, yet nothing for actual charitable causes. Why are they not taxed?

[@katebautista4673]

actually, the lds church has given over $2.5 billion in charitable funds

[@jeffs4483]

@@katebautista4673 Lol sure.

[@jeffs4483]

A house of secrets is not the house of the Lord.

[@NsTheName]

Secrets and sacred are very different. I would invite you to go to an open house someday, if you find one in your area, and see the inside of the temple yourself. As a form of respect to God, there are certain things we don't discuss outside the temple, like covenants we make with God, because we hold them sacred in our hearts.

[@charlesmendeley9823]

@@NsTheName I rather assume you do not discuss it because you are embarrassed the ordinances are copied from Freemasonry.

[@NsTheName]

@@charlesmendeley9823 That's been debunked many times. :) But no, I don't discuss it because it really is sacred to me. Would you share something sacred to you that you knew others would mock and scorn purely because they choose not to understand? As humans, we're not going to agree on everything and that really is ok. I take my covenants very seriously, though, and as such I speak about them with reverence and respect.

[@charlesmendeley9823]

@@NsTheName In what way has it been debunked? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXfampt4lrB5nrM

[@tmrossi2899]

The Bible teaches quite different doctrine than these. First, God is Spirit not just flesh & bone. (Luke 24:39) Once we pass we are spirit we will not be inheriting another physical body. (2 Corinthians 4:16, 5:1-10, 12:2-4) Man can never progress to Godhead!! Numbers 23:19, Isaiah 55:8-9, Malachi 3:6 The Garden of Eden is not in Independence MO - It is written in Genesis 2:10-14 where the garden is.!!! May others open their hearts to truth, Amen

[@CulbsDC]

Hey CBS, Washington, DC has many memorials (Lincoln, FDR, Vietnam, Jefferson, etc.) but only one monument (the 555 foot obelisk that honors #1). 🧐

[@RaDHeyward]

I'm embarrassed to have actually believed the Mormon Corporation as long as I did. Jesus won't be happy the way Mormons and others are manipulating and distorting his teachings.

[@jakeolthof]

I met many Mormons in 2012 that told me the spirit of God told them that mitt Romney would be the next president and that that same Spirit also told them that the Mormon church was true.

[@sonyfusion1994]

There are 14 million members not everyone thinks the same.

[@jeffs4483]

@@sonyfusion1994 3-4 tops for active members. Nice way to inflate numbers.

[@mjrybread]

Ya instead of believing what the Bible says

[@jakeolthof]

@@mjrybread I didn't know that Romney was in the Bible but there's a lot of names in the genealogical parts and I just recently became aware of the part where Jesus says he's not coming to bring peace but a sword. So I don't doubt you are right 👍.

[@jimoconnor6382]

I sent complaint letters to Mitt about how it was dumb to put a 4 cylinder in to a big Matador

[@atravismoore]

Respectfully and tastefully done! Thank you from members of the Church everywhere :)

[@scottcharney1091]

Why respect an obvious fraud full of anachronisms, homophobia, etc.?

[@irishcowgirl21]

I agree. I'm getting sick and tired of the church being bashed and disrespected

[@scottcharney1091]

@@irishcowgirl21 We shouldn't be expected to respect nonsense.

[@MichaelSmith-fq3pg]

​@@irishcowgirl21It's bashed and disrespected for many reasons. Though your programming won't let you learn about them. You see only what you want to see and ignore or disregard anything else.

[@joem80003]

I remember someone saying they throw away all the carpet and other thing after the open house it was defiled.

[@michaeldenova4562]

More likely because it was worn out! Now you wear throwaway booties during the open house to lessen the wear and tear on the carpet.

[@annettedeem8126]

No Joe they don't. When the tours are conducted, the people going through put paper slippers over their shoes to protect the carpeting. After the tours are completed, the carpets are cleaned again before the Temple is rededicated. When we attend the Temple everyone has their own slippers.

[@michaeldenova4562]

I was a volunteer usher in the DC temple this week and we all put on throwaway booties.

[@charlielinville1384]

It just a building with fancy ornate material. It's based on masonic rites. God Yahweh never said go build a temple and do masonic rites.

[@latetodagame1892]

Weird!

[@johnb5254]

If you thought El Ron Hubbard, the creator of Scientology was crazy, wait until you read up on Joseph Smith.

[@bunnypoop4508]

Ron is con artist and so is Joseph Smith

[@MultiPetercool]

Or watch an episode of South Park! Dum, Dum, Dum, Dum-Dumb! 😜

[@bunnypoop4508]

@@MultiPetercool 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩

[@refosco1993]

Wait this isn’t Disney World?

[@jeffs4483]

The Church of Joseph Smith of Latter Day Swindle.

[@dollsNcats]

🤣🤣🤣

[@alexandrakeesecker909]

Weird how videos for Under the Banner of Heaven brought me here lmfao

[@josepeixoto3384]

Holly smokes, what in the world is that, God can+t hear them through that thick roof, i advise them to maybe come out in the open looking up if they want to be heard by the heavens when sealed together,that is an important event.

[@sowingtruth715]

4:00 Jesus said in the resurrection we are not given in marriage so that’s false

[@monocuco818]

You misunderstand that scripture. It was a warning to the Saducees who did not believe in the resurrection. Christ's statement is simply that no new marriages will be made in the resurrection, so He warned them that no new marriages would be made, He never mentions anything regarding those who were already married. It is a warning to them regarding the resurrection, which they didn't believe in, but a further warning that they need to marry now, otherwise they would not have the chance after this life, in the resurrection.

[@Medevicerep]

I’m a Catholic myself but you definitely want neighbors who are LDS. Great people, prepared for any emergency and always willing to lend a hand. I served in the Marine Corps with a couple of LDS guys and they were outstanding. Down to earth, great sense of humor who fit in with everyone. The Department of Defense actually has an approved “garment” for them (we call it underwear) so they can stay observant and still serve our country.

[@matthewpitts3212]

Thank you for your service Steve in the Marine Corps and your kind words.

[@scottcharney1091]

That doesn't make it any less of a fraud: all the nonsense like great walled cities in what would be the US, horses and swords and chariots in that same era, "Reformed Egyptian," etc.

[@michaeldenova4562]

Thanks for your kind words and your service.

[@cohneh104fifita7]

Thanks 4 ur service 🤙🏽

[@Donnie-Lee-Gringo]

No tours of the Endowment room where church members make vows of obedience to the 12 Apostles and the three First Presidency. Promises to give “all” to the church. Spiritually and economically. No views of the Anointing rooms where in your secret sacred Mormon underwear only you are touched with oil by male only high priests and non ordained women to receive blessings of numerous children, among other things.

[@astrangerhere]

The in-person tour does include views of the endowment rooms (at least it has in all the open houses I've been to in Utah, so I'm sure it will here.) The word "economically" is not used in the ceremony. Members do covenant to give "all" to build up the kingdom of God, establish Zion, and support the church of which they are a part. All of this has biblical references. Jesus referenced building up his church, he constantly talked about the "kingdom of God" and the idea of Zion as "New Jerusalem" is found heavily in the book of Revelation. Hence, the covenant is to do as he commanded (but it does not specify precisely how the individual is to do this in their own life, and zero reference is made to giving any money. It's between the individual and God.) If we eliminate your intentional use of shock-words, it can be explained that it's actually NO "secret" that Mormons are given a special garment to wear as underclothing throughout their life. Might it interest you to know that our English word "atonement" is derived from the ancient Hebrew word "kaphar," which means "to cover?" Thinking about that in relation to the atonement of Jesus Christ shouldn't take one very long to get the idea the the garment is yet another symbol of him. There is no mention in the ceremony of the First Presidency or Twelve Apostles or obedience to them. A covenant of obedience to GOD is made, but that covenant was actually already made at baptism. And another topic Jesus had a lot to say about. No one exemplified this covenant more than he did. How beautiful it is to be anointed before God. References to this can be found all throughout the Bible. Your phraseology is obviously intended to imply that there is something dubious going on, but nothing could be further from the truth. Over 20 years I performed these ordinances in 20+ temples all over the US and everything was ALWAYS done in good taste, with respect and reverence for the individual, the one for whom the work was being done, and the person's body. There is so, so much that can be learned from the temple experience but without a desire for such some people will continue to not understand it, and instead of trying to learn, coming back again, asking questions (you can talk to the President of the temple if you are concerned about something -- I did so on several occasions,) they will intentionally misrepresent or exaggerate things to give the impression it is something it is not.

[@Donnie-Lee-Gringo]

@@astrangerhere in 1977 when I was anointed in the Oakland California USA temple, an elderly high priest touched my groin going so far to cup my testicles. I was a naive 19 year old Mormon convert and deeply closeted gay teen. At that time the washing and anointing was done completely nude except for the “shield” (poncho) covering. I was traumatized and confused. I nearly left Mormonism after “ taking out my endowment” since it was so foreign to my previous 4 years of Mormon ward and stake experiences. Also at that time the vow and covenant was to give “all” to the Kingdom of God on earth as defined as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It was commonly understood and taught over the pulpit to be a financial matter. As in right now we pay tithes and offerings, (minimal 10% of income) but if asked by the prophets and apostles the law of consecration (giving all income to the church, as they tried in 1830s Ohio and Missouri). You may not be aware of all of the temple ceremonies alterations done in the 1990s and previously. It’s worth researching. At the time I vowed and covenanted in the Oakland temple in 1977, there were punishments attached to the vows and punishments (that my throat would be sliced, that my bowels would be cut open if I did not live up to the promises, or if I shared the secrets of the temple to others, even other members). So again, quite traumatic for a naive teen. You could research the number of young women and men who had horrible negative experiences with the Mormon temple endowment and sealing ceremonies, especially before, but not exclusively, the 1990s. It’s all been altered to be more acceptable to most people. Just as the CBS fluff piece was made acceptable to most people by the PR department of the LdS church corporation (Bonneville Communications).

[@lizeta8404]

This is not true, I wasn’t touched by any male in just my underwear. Pfff!!!

[@jeffs4483]

@@astrangerhere Not Christian.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@astrangerhere Thank you for your kind comment.

[@niddyblancoatschool7107]

In Deuteronomy 4:2 Moses declares, “You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commands of the Lord your God which I command you.” The only way in which we can rightly “keep” God's commands is to not add or subtract from his word. Hense why this is a false religion

[@michaeldenova4562]

Niddy. That scripture is from the Old Testament. If we use your interpretation, then we must ignore the New Testament. I think you meant we should not add or subtract or interpret differently from what God revels to mankind. Unfortunately and sadly, historical Christianity has done that.

[@jeffs4483]

@@michaeldenova4562 Wrong again. Jesus in the New testament declared not to add to his word.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@jeffs4483 I know that scripture (Revelation 22:18). The New Testament wasn't even compiled when John wrote Revelations. In fact, it is believed other books in the New Testament may have been written after John's Revelation. "This book" that John says not to "add unto these things" probably refers to his book of Revelation. And now the bigger picture: God spoke to mankind in the Old Testament; God spoke to mankind in the New Testament; and Latter-day Saints say that God is speaking to man again in these the last days. Man cannot add or subtract to what God says, but God is able to speak to mankind as often as he wants. The canon of scripture and revelation has reopened. The Bible tells us that in the last days Elijah must return (Malachi 4:5,6) and also, people will be inspired by the Holy Ghost to prophecy, dream dreams, and have visions (Joel 2:28, 29). The "restitution of all things" (Acts 3:20,21), the "dispensation of the fulness of times" (Ephesians 1:10) and the "marvellous work and a wonder" (Isaiah 29:14) have all begun. Thanks for mentioning this.

[@estherlewis7458]

@@michaeldenova4562 The restitution of Acts 3 refers back to Acts 1:6 where the disciples wanted to know when the kingdom of Israel would be restored. Christ had already said that the church would never need to be restored. Mt. 16 Where does the 'original gospel' say that we should worship an 'exalted man' with a body of flesh and bone, that came from another planet, that had to work his way to godhood, lives near a star named Kolob, had sex with his own spirit daughter Mary to conceive 'Jesus,' is out sleeping with other women, damns people who deny the eternal principle of polygamy D&C 132 and forces women to be sex objects as part of some LDS man's harem for all eternity? The true and living God of the Bible is love. ❤️ He is the first, uncaused cause of everything you see. He does not need sex, sleep, shelter, clothing, food, air, water or anything else a mere created being might need. He spoke the planets and stars including Kolob into existence. He is transcendent and lives outside of the universe. He is eternal- has always been God and never had to work his way to godhood. Where does the 'original gospel' say that Christ is a created being the brother of Lucifer? Where does the 'original gospel' say that one must join the LDS church, believe the Book of Mormon is true, believe that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God, tithe to the LDS church, go through a worthiness interview, get a temple recommend, go through a masonic Endowment Ceremony, put on Lucifer's power and priesthoods, learn secret passwords, signs, grips, tokens and handshakes, wear temple garments, etc. to maybe get into heaven? Latter day Saints have no chance of ever getting into heaven. You need to read your Bible. Eternity is a long time to be wrong.

[@Erik-ct1kh]

Until you have truly and sincerely read the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants, and asked of God if those things are true with a sincere heart, you will have no idea what you’re missing out on.

[@agma19]

Baptism of the dead? This is one more thing not found in the Holy Bible...this and many other things make LDS nothing like biblical Christianity.

[@michaeldenova4562]

Actually it is mentioned in the Bible as a reason why the ancient Saints believed in the resurrection. See 1 Cor 15:29. Also look up "Baptism for the Dead in Early Christianity" by David L. Paulsen. It's a scholarly essay and very interesting.

[@estherlewis7458]

@@michaeldenova4562 "It is appointed unto man once to die and after that the judgment." There will be no second chances.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@estherlewis7458 I would partially agree with that. How do you respond to the 90% of the Earth's inhabitants past, present and future who never have or will never hear of Jesus Christ or at least the version that you may consider the correct version of christianity? In other words most of the world has never heard of Christ the first time. How would they be given the opportunity to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior?

[@noremorse6898]

Nice propaganda piece promoting the Mormon church. Before rushing off to join the Latter Day Saints, you might want to view a few YT videos by non-Mormons explaining the roots of the church and the many fallacies it's based on for which LDS promoters have no explanation. The LDS church uses much of the same vocabulary as Christian churches, but it is in no way Christian in a Biblical sense. The "gospel" of the LDS church is not the gospel of the Bible.

[@michaeldenova4562]

Hi NoRemorse, if you know of a long standing Christian Church that doesn’t have a questionable past, or doesn’t have a strange doctrine, or hasn’t changed over time, or hasn’t had a member or members violate their churches teachings or Biblical teaching, I would like to know which church that is. In other words, which church should I join? This was the very question Joseph Smith wanted to know when he went to pray in the woods in 1820. I think the question is as relevant today.

[@noremorse6898]

@@michaeldenova4562 My point is that LDS doctrine changes the entire message of the Christian gospel; it isn't just a few minor doctrinal disagreements. The very idea that men can become gods and rule over their own planets is totally foreign to the Bible, which teaches that there is one God and no other who is to be served and worshipped by all mankind. Then there is the Book of Mormon fabrication of vast civilizations in the Americas descended from supposed Israelites, when DNA analysis proves there is no connection between the native inhabitants of the Americas and Semitic peoples. There is also no archeological evidence that these fantasy civilizations ever existed. That's just two examples of the twisted ideas that sprang from the fertile imagination of Joseph Smith.

[@jlewis8145]

@@michaeldenova4562 There is no salvation in any church. Christ never said to join a church. The true, original church is spoken of in the New Testament. There was no masonic Endowment Ceremony, no mandatory tithing, no worthiness interviews, they did not worship a god that came from another planet, they did not mock Jesus Christ and say he was the brother of Lucifer, no restored priesthood (Jesus is our High Priest forever after the order of Melchizedek), no baptizing for the dead (I Cor. 15 speaks of pagans baptizing for the dead.), no secret handshakes, signs, grips or token, no temple garments, no temple recommend, no temple (they met in homes), no salvation by grace after all you can do, no veil was put back up that God had torn in two, they did not believe they would become a god someday, the women were not hoping to share their husbands with other women and be pregnant for all eternity populating a planet, etc..

[@michaeldenova4562]

​@@jlewis8145 John, let's flip this around and say positive things. Tell me all the characteristics, practices, and spiritual gifts of the original apostolic church. By the way, the word "church" is used 115 times in the King James Version of the New Testament.

[@Turboy65]

Mormons tend to be solid, patriotic Americans, hard working, educated, sensible people who live good lives and treat their family, friends, and neighbors with respect and kindness. I will never join any organized religion but if I did, Mormonism would not be much of a stretch for me to fit into. Their values are my values.

[@JackSonOfJohn]

What are you waiting for?

[@Turboy65]

@@JackSonOfJohn I don't DO organized religion.

[@stephenjackson5065]

@@Turboy65 why not? I’ve heard others say this and I’m curious what steers you away from organized religion

[@Turboy65]

@@stephenjackson5065 Because any time you are dealing with organized religion, you are dealing with someone who does not have altruistic motives. Somebody is getting paid to preach, and derives his living from being the preacher. It's a business, and people get paid in it. I say, take your money into your back yard on a calm day, throw the money into the air, and what god wants, god will take. The rest belongs to you. Never tithe, never donate to the collection basket, never give a dime to those who pander their "only through this donation shall you receive eternal life!" lies to you. I trust no MAN who claims to speak for god, ESPECIALLY when he has his hand out. And neither should you. Beware the rich man who speaks of being a poor and humble servant. HE LIES TO YOU. I need nobody else to define my personal relationship with god. Sometimes I pray. Maybe he listens. I am good to my family and friends and live by the principles of honesty and integrity. I need no charlatan to tell me I'm doing it wrong.

[@khibbard2]

@@Turboy65 we agree. That’s why we have no paid ministry.

[@Yesica1993]

3:29 "Today, church members avoid calling themselves Mormons, emphasizing instead what they share with other Christian faiths, a reverence for Christ. What "other Christian faiths"? There's ONE Christian faith, as taught in the Bible. LDS is not biblical. It's an entirely different religion. That's why Joseph Smith founded it. From the official LDS site, under the section, JOSEPH SMITH-HISTORY: 18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)-and which I should join. 19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

[@dctalk30]

Book and chapter would have been nice😃

[@Yesica1993]

@@dctalk30 Book and chapter of what? I just gave you the statement from the official LDS website.

[@dctalk30]

@@Yesica1993 book chapter and verse that shows the mormon church in the Bible. Its not there. Never has been never will be.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@dctalk30 Actually, the Church of Jesus Christ does have quite a few: Daniel 2: 44,45: The kingdom that will be set up in the last days. Isaiah 2:2: The Lord's house to be established in the mountains in the last days. Act 3: 20, 21: The restitution of all things. The Book of Mormon: Ezekiel 37:15-19; Isaiah 29: 11, 12, 18. Elijah returns: Mal 4: 5,6; see also D&C 110: 13-15. The gathering of Israel: Isa 5:26; 11:12; 49:22. Now, could you show me in the Bible where the Protestant Reformation fulfills Biblical scriptures?

[@michaeldenova4562]

"What other Christian faith?" Hmmm. How about Roman Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, Calvinism, Lutheran Anglican, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Church of England, Methodists, Episcopal, Presbyterianism, non-denominational, etc. All these Christian religions have some doctrine in common, but they also have many differences.

[@alwaysbewhoyouare9592]

It should be illegal to do baptisms for the dead. It is wrong.

[@MichaelOfHerndon]

It's a Biblical teaching. See 1 Corinthians 15:29.

[@Hellothere123-bi6ou]

waterboarding

[@JYDIVISN]

A modern roadside religion along the freeway.

[@melregissings]

ironically there won't be any temples in heaven according to Revelation

[@jlewis8145]

🙂