The Most Important Trick for Perfect Casing & Crown Miters - ROLL IT!

[@InsiderCarpentry]

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[@csgamble]

That tiny wedge is $100 for what it is that seems a bit pricy

[@tissahewa1992]

One of the best trick i have leared today. thanks you lot.

[@claypool1085]

Aquarium⁷q 11th qq

[@Dave-ek2jx]

Question. But first, great video. You always produce fantastic content. After watching this video, it got me thinking. Have you ever seen a trim detail where the casings were meant to have these rolled miters? E.g., the window jambs are intentionally, say, 3/4" proud and you must use this technique because the designer/homeowner wanted the look that creates? It seems like if it were done tastefully it could look really good.

[@bmdman]

Immediately bought both tools!

[@royordway9157]

I've got 46 years as a carpenter under my belt and never thought of this and none of the people I have worked with brought it up. Thanks for the tip.

[@farrarmarc]

Same here. So simple!

[@Koitus36]

My mind is blown!

[@georgelutz8212]

Me 3

[@danbob1650]

It's a shame that the generation from 1970-80 worker they were given the wisdom they were taught by old timer. But had stick in there butt to not going help you make you better fu . Your not taking my job or I just don't care. I was taught this by guy 5 yrs ago he was his 70s

[@royordway9157]

@@danbob1650 I'm 66 and I hope to show a young carpenter this some day.

[@mjrwey]

20 years of finish carpentry and I've never seen this trick. Really appreciate you making these videos

[@jamesphillips9272]

Same here

[@casimirkotarba5186]

In my 20 yrs i always used my pencil under the trim,,,it back cuts it and the front always looks tight

[@bentonrp]

It's easier to just use a hacksaw and eyeball it. 🤪

[@shinnick22]

Old guy I worked with years ago showed me this trick but he used a shim and marked it. Game changer.

[@grannykatnewx7898]

Good idea on the shim idea. I had an issue finding something to add height on the saw fence side. Got lots of shims I can cannibalize 😅

[@Dave-nm3xc]

This kid is the best trim carpenter I've seen on YT. 💯

[@michaellatour9852]

Spencer you are truly a wizard. I'm so impressed by your work ethic,problem solving skills and overall aptitude for this trade. You have made me want to be a better trim carpenter and I appreciate you so much.

[@InsiderCarpentry]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@jimw6991]

Since we don't have apprentice programs in most places these videos go a long way to help the new guys learn the tricks of the trade. I think most folks can learn to do this and get good results BUT can they do it fast? That's where the experience comes in, thanks for sharing. I was doing it by bevel cutting the mitre on the flat ... too many sample cuts to​ figure out the correct angles and of course way too slow :). I don't know how long KZbin lets these be viewed, but 10 years from now this will still be a good video for diy or inexperienced carpenter like me.@InsiderCarpentry

[@gregstewart1895]

I am embarassed to say how many years I have been a carpenter and never have I seen someone with such a simple, reliable solution to problem of wonky extension jambs. I enjoy your orderly approach to the work ith details like your cut list holder.

[@leomannpictures]

I learned a new term and trick today: "nested position". This is a game changer for me. Thanks Spencer!

[@tonybrown7847]

It’s already been said but I’ll say it again. 30+ years as a carpenter and never seen this trick. Thanks Spencer. 👍🏻

[@robertwagner3033]

This carpenter is spot on. I’ve framed 1000 homes and trim them as well as a carpenter contractor. When the window jamb is protruding past the drywall we sometimes power planed the jamb flush. I learned the method of tipping the trim piece exactly the way it would sit on the wall. Thicker casing is harder to do if you don’t tip while cutting. The problem with today’s windows is the jamb is not as wide as the wall due to the added weather proof tape and Tavel paper. Also when the windows are installed they have tendency to compress against the sheathing plus or minus. His method works . I did it with the miller falls manual miter box back in the day 1970s. When the jamb is not out far enough you either beat the heck out of the drywall or add jamb extensions

[@axxeman2002]

I'm only a DIY'er but what a great video and just love the no nonsense presentation; no robot voices or stultifying "muzak". Simply brilliant and brilliantly simple. Great job. 10/10

[@oscarjaeger2361]

Been in home improvement 50 yrs. I learn something new everyday. Great video

[@andyfox5161]

I have over 35 years experience and this concept never entered my mind. I really appreciate the tips !

[@InsiderCarpentry]

Glad it was helpful!

[@kennethwills2913]

My older brother, who is a trim carpenter, showed me this concept years ago. One thing that is new to me is the drill bit trick. That is slick. Thanks for a great video. I have never subscribed to a KZbin channel before. You are the first. I just looked at the website for the step gauge and the price is awful. The same thing can be done with a marked shim or tapered piece of 1x. Slide it next to the proud jamb, mark it with a pencil, and use that to set the saw. Way cheaper, especially if you don't do it all the time.

[@blaster-zy7xx]

Me too. We used shims to do this and sometimes cut the shims to use as spacers on the chop saw, but never heard of using drill bits.

[@fredwehrhahn2162]

Plus you can add a couple bucks to the bill under consumables to pay for the shims or just eat the expense as the cost of doing business.

[@capt_bry]

i've got 128 years of being a Finnish carpenter, and something something never seen this before. Thanks for making this!

[@maxcore2023]

Oooh, rookie!😂

[@backmarkerbanshee1220]

I'm a Swedish carpenter.

[@shannonschneider8599]

Stupid

[@demonicsquid7217]

Hei siellä!

[@Drtyred313]

I’m just a DIY’er here and I have some hack work that happened because of me not having this information…As a mechanic, I understand nothing beats experience and a trained professional and I understand why it cost a pretty penny to have good work done at your home… Thank you sooooooo much for this video….🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾…I really can’t explain how valuable this video is to humanity….LITERALLY…

[@markhedquist9597]

I'm not even gonna read a single comment. I already know what they say. This is just plain carpentry gold here. I feel the same about looking back at how I fought these joints. Thanks so much for this!

[@MikeyBLial]

Dude. You are the man. Seriously…where has this channel been all my life?? You are incredibly wise and equally kind for sharing all of these tricks. Thank you, Spencer!

[@lanceleavitt7472]

What an amazingly simple idea. The only thing wrong, that I can see, is that I didn't think of it. Thanks you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

[@duaynenaugle4186]

I owned a trim company and over the years trimmed out about 1500 houses. I never thought of this. I tried setting the chop saw at a slight angle but found it in accurate. We all had very sharp block planes and used them to touch up any joints that were not the best. You get pretty good at it after a while. Wish I would have thought about this back then. Nice work your doing on the channel

[@awesometopics1988]

It really isn't amazing how long it took us to figure this out.. Thank you for that.. You just allowed me to learn this after twelve years of doing it

[@stevehammerich7121]

My grandfather always told my do your best learn something new every day . This is awesome tip. We do lot of remodeling this will be put in my bag of tricks.

[@StanSykes-o7e]

I literally used this trick today on a old bay window that had a proud jamb on one corner and it worked like a charm!! Thanks for the tip!

[@johnnyorbell4019]

Like an absolute mystic at 45 years of remodeling I guess I’ve been doing a lot of wiggling and padding out this technique is genius it’s so elementary duplicating the jamb situation at the saw thank you so very much for your knowledge and as always easy explanation of high quality content!

[@grannykatnewx7898]

This is the best video! It works! 45 yo home and no door is square. I struggled to get interior doors trimmed out. Now that I know this trick, I'm going to have to redo all the other wonky stuff. Happy and sad😂😅

[@robertmccully2792]

Finally a carpenter that knows what he is doing! I never thought of this, never heard of a clamp clamp either.

[@jarrodmeister4235]

Older video but I am great full for your knowledge and generosity to share it. I've been a carpenter for 28 years haven't done this and will try if this arises on the next job. Thank you for your contribution.

[@MJ-qt4dm]

Awesome! As you said, "all the headaches I could have avoided over the years". Thank you!

[@codydavis2009]

No words brother! In my circle of professionals I’m full of dark arts magic for carpentry… but I learn it all from you!! Thank you

[@InsiderCarpentry]

LOL That's funny!

[@Dave-nm3xc]

He's the real deal!

[@foreman3737]

Wow. After 20 years, you just changed my game. No more compound cuts. Thanks for pointing out something so simplistic.

[@jordangosse9609]

as an apprentice carpenter i really enjoy your videos you are a man of so much knowledge. keep up the great work

[@danstill1111]

Thank you sooooo much for your videos. I am a trim apprentice with 6 months on the job. Was fighting a proud door jam today of about 3/16. Spent longer than I will admit publicly rigging the compound miter to get a good tight fit. Stopped watched this video and put your technique into action and it worked perfectly. Not to sound over dramatic, but this is life changing for me. Thank you again. …is there some way to support this channel above subscribing and liking? You should offer paid classes!

[@InsiderCarpentry]

Glad it helped!

[@swooopg]

Most of us here had to learn these techniques the long hard way! He knows his stuff and you would be wise to learn everything you can from this channel. Use it as a guide and you will figure out how you like to do things your own way.

[@joelw6215]

I was hired to help set some Marvin French doors. And if you would do a video on setting doors with 3 way adjustments it probably would have saved me 3 hours of labor. It took me 1 hour to set the first door and I would be lying if I said I didn’t want to throw my drill through the glass

[@swooopg]

@@joelw6215 French doors can definitely be a pain! Especially if you have a floor out of level or walls that don’t line up! I Always check the opening thoroughly before I attempt to set double doors

[@rickyperkins232]

@@InsiderCarpentry bro bro super thank you very much

[@cmennenger]

Wow words can't describe how much this changes my work. Thank you

[@fmarku1125]

That’s very nicely explained, I’ve been doing carpentry for over 30 years and maybe It look stupid but never thought of this, never seen it before, best tip ever. Thanks. Really appreciate you making these videos and sharing this kind of tips, I have to say again that is BEST TIP EVER

[@CaresforAll]

I'm 67 so sad for me too! At least I've never done it as a profession but suffered through plenty. I would say this is probably one of the most if not the most valuable tricks I've seen. Now I have to find something to trim.

[@stephenhackley6479]

This was one of the most fascinating miter and casing videos I've ever watched. Thank you for this!!

[@derekrobertson1548]

Thanks for the great tip. I am just a diyer who is about to replace all doors and trim work in my house. This will help so much as nothing in this house has been put together the way I would like. My hallway is 5ft at one end and 6ft at the other and it is only 12ft in length. Thanks again.

[@jaredhasenauer]

I was this many years old!!!! 20 yrs!! 20 long years of teimming and i just learned this today. I've always back cut. I have it pretty much down, but I'll be doing this on the next house.

[@CookeSonsCarpentry]

This is why I love KZbin! Just learned something awesome

[@waynemiller6070]

I've learned so much from you Spencer. You and Richard from Finish Carpentry TV are my go to's.... I appreciate all your help.

[@DesmoProfundis]

This is a fantastic trick. I am a construction instructor at a technical college and just got done making crown molding simple for my students. This trick is the next thing I'm going to throw in their mental toolbox. Thanks!😮

[@InsiderCarpentry]

I wish I had known the trick earlier in my career. Good for you teaching it!

[@jtsloth]

Explained so well that I knew what you were going to do before you did it. Thank you!

[@ileanamorales1384]

Purchased - Uprimu Set Up Block Height Gauges Set,5 Piece Precision Aluminum Setup Bars for Router and Table Saw Accessories Woodworking Set Up, 1/8, 3/16, 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 Inches, All 4 Inches Long for 13.99. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Brilliant !!!

[@tomhughes4980]

We used to back plane the jamb leaving and 1/8 flat, most sheetrock was 3/8 and a jamb of 4-9/16, this way has made life easier, I like the step gauge, time to order one.

[@reddawgrup1779]

Yup...taking back wood off (in most cases) of miters...was taught this as an apprentice back in the early 80s during my first month of doing interior trim work. Thanks to the awesome teachers and ppl I worked with!! 🔨👌👍

[@steveedwards6753]

I have run lots of crown but never saw a crown fence. I love it! Last summer I was cutting aluminum cove with a lighting channel for up- lighting at a compound angle. Holding by hand (not a good idea), it came loose, hit my blade and I now have a wobble in the blade that I am now repairing. Had I known about a crown fence this would not have happened. 67 and still learning. Thank you!

[@Linman27]

Thanks for making me a better DIY carpenter. I have a lot of your videos saved in a specific category for my woodworking.

[@seankelly9998]

This is just absolutely SO HELPFUL. Between you, RR Builders’s, Awesome Framer, Framing Beast and Gary Katz just to name a few, your videos help me immensely. Keep them coming great content.

[@suzanneschristie]

Very Awesome! I'm a DIY mom who LOVES wood working and loves learning from a great teacher. I've had to learn everything about rebuilding my 89 year old house and it's been so amazing thanks to people like you who share their knowledge. Really learning how to do trim work has been a serious challenge. Most YT channels tell you a little bit about a subject but I want all the details I can get. You give such great information, it is deeply appreciated!

[@deangarner4]

I've watched this twice now, having consumed the information the first time. I just really like it. Great talk, bro

[@joehaney5482]

I have been running into this problem & never knew there was such a simple solution . THANK YOU!

[@lyleconway6795]

Awesome video!! A shim can do the same as the little step jig. Slide the shim along and put a pencil tick where it’s flush with the protruding jamb. At the chopsaw slide the shim in to the pencil mark under your piece of trim. Love your videos and knowledge man!

[@gagegr]

Great idea! I was going to 3D print a step gauge but this is easier

[@tonybrown7847]

I was thinking the same thing but then think about the time it will take. I’d buy the step gauge once and be done with it

[@dubmob151]

Could also just mark a shim at 1/16“ increments or to whatever accuracy is required. Could even have different shims with varying ramps to cover all ranges that might be encountered.

[@darrelstickler]

This is needed advice. When we ordered our Pella windows, the contractor said to get them with jamb installed. Big mistake in an early 60s California house. Trim wasn’t in window contractor scope so bad person to get advice from. If we had instead got a bunch of clean pine from Pella, could have just cut jambs to fit the drywall particulars in each room. Window guy installed the windows per Pella requirements, but the house was not pure. This video will help me finally finish the job.

[@RealTechSkills]

One of the best tips I've seen in a while. Thank you for such valuable content.

[@xaxzander4633]

Been doing similar for 36 years, however i can say i did learn something= the drill bit thing. I've been cutting shims for this. For crown I always try to cut my crown with the compound miter laying flat now days, unless I'm stuck with a saw that cannot do that. both methods work fine. the trick to laying it down is to find the correct angle for the bevel and miter. Most saws have a few marks for this but they can be off a bit depending on the crown. Very well explained and great vid.

[@dominioncrowntv5197]

I think you made a separate video a few years back showing this technique and I instantly subscribed! This is a great trick to add to your bag of tricks 🔥

[@jonathanwright4995]

That drill bit as a spacer is BRILLIANT! Useful idea for many things. Thanks for that one.

[@micheledumas-quesnel8964]

WOW.this has got to be the best video about window casing that I saw. THANK YOU! Not only is the « in the nesting position » trick completely simple but brilliant , but the quality of your video is A1. You speak slowly,clearly, you make sur the camera is properly placed so we see all the details of what you’re showing at Al, time, showing us from close but clear, and taking the time to explain every step of the way. I subscribed, and can’t wait to see what else you’ve be putting out there!

[@raveniskcrow]

This was one of the most detailed moldings. It was very well explained. WOW

[@joshuamatheron1]

I’ve used this a few time after I saw it in an old video of yours. Works a treat! Thanks again

[@TheLastPharm]

All I can say is I really enjoy watching and admire a master of his profession. And that you take the time to explain how the process works makes you a knowledgeable yet humble master. You're one of my favorite channels on KZbin, can't get enough of this!

[@thetmyers3881]

Spencer I am so grateful to have learned this from your video. i would dread walking into a job and seeing windows like the ones you've shown here in your video. I would even turn some of these jobs down because I knew I was going to spend all day (so to speak) doing one window . I now confidently take on any of these types of jobs what an awesome trick that works!

[@tdmjfountain]

One of the best channels on KZbin! You are a great teacher and I thank you for all your content.

[@5zwoodworks]

You just humbled a lot of people. Myself included. Thank you very much!

[@billtex150]

Your videos are amazing. I have learned so much from you. I love the way you go into detail explaining things and at a speed slow enough that I can follow. Thank you for what you do. You are a great teacher.

[@digitalselfimagevideophoto3788]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us, I have been struggling with miter cuts for several years and I just recently found your video and I tried it at work and it worked great, you literally saved my job and now I feel confident that I will improve the quality of my work. Thank you so much

[@jakeschmidt4320]

Fantastic tip...thank you sir! People like you are how we have gotten as far as we have.

[@SuperEddietv]

The inverse of this is a whole different ball game. Jambs that are shy create a ramp if the drywall is up against the jamb. Drill bit on the back, plus shaving the drywall down, with some trial and error is the only way I have found. Good stuff as always!

[@doofusmaguilacutee4998]

Great Tricks! I can't believe I didn't think of this before. Recently completed the rebuild/renovation of a residence built back in the 50's. I sure could have used these tricks to trim out the windows & case-out the doors.

[@kingrigidthedeplorable2720]

I do something similar by cutting each one a bit long and either reducing or increasing the miter. But, I will try your approach - it looks a little easier. The drill bit is also clever.

[@jecht34]

This is excellent instruction. Thank you for all the great tips and meticulous demonstration. Teaching is a lot of work- you do it well.

[@alphaomega7325]

WOW! Though I'm not into carpentry (just some woodworking), I admire how you explain complex geometry in such a clear and visual way. This is an art by itself. Greetings from Germany.

[@danm3988]

I've always used laminate samples - the little rectangular color/pattern chips that you can pick up at the kitchen design center, lumber yard, big box, etc. I stack them up until I get the right height. I've used the same technique to cut compound angles on the bottoms of newel posts to get them to stand plumb on unlevel floors - before I had a compound miter saw. I really like the drill technique. Thank you for all of the excellent videos..

[@bmdman]

Just amazingly simple. I’d never come across this tip before. Thanks so much.

[@Cimone90]

Thats a pretty neat way of tackling this. When you first showed the problem, my inital thought was to run the piece through a router table to recess the back edge of it.

[@Mike-dy8bq]

Thank you Spencer. God has richly blessed you for sure. You are years ahead of many 2-3 times your age in this craft.

[@marksteer8642]

Yep....in oz , we call that "under cutting the mitre" works for other crappy joins as well. Learnt that 50 years ago. Keep up the great work.

[@michaelnichols7669]

This came in handy for me a few weeks back. So simple, saves a lot of time.

[@davidjanis1997]

You are just as good if not better than Finish Carpentry TV. Keep up the good work!

[@robertromo4816]

This is great, I've been doing casing for a long time and this is the first time I've seen anything like this,,,,, Thanks.

[@kevinhoppenworth6708]

I just experienced this 2 weeks ago. I was cutting by hand every way possible to get it to match the 45's. I was working off a finished wall and the corner bead was higher. What a great tip. Will use it on the next job.

[@joeoverman3793]

Thx for sharing your tricks in trim work. Noone that I know does this or taught me this in my 23 yrs of miter cuts

[@howardlaunius7484]

What a great technique for a common problem. Thanks for sharing and demonstrating Spencer!

[@wayneyadams]

This is a great tip, just like all the tips you give. You can't beat professional carpenters for knowing the tricks to making work easier.

[@billmillar7234]

I've used drill bits and pencils to adjust the angles over the years....have also used a regular shim...most are 1/4"....slide the shim next to the casing and mark where it's flush..... simple...and you always have shims around

[@jakewrtt]

I’ve never used this technique but instantly thought to just use a shim. If a normal shim isn’t big enough well there’s bigger problems you need to take care before casing

[@robertwagner3033]

Again, this method works as when you tip the molding you are creating a compound miter . Cut it the way it sits on the wall.bravo to the young carpenter

[@howdog007]

12 years of carpentry and just learning this for the first time. Thank you!!

[@targetshooter3]

trimming for 30 years. Where the hell were you then? This is the best trick I have learned yet Thank you so much. Now I have a trick for you......Get some safety glasses. I harp on this every time I we talk. Its just a matter of time before you crash.....and you will! That is my gift to you Spenscer. Roger the 78 year old one eyed chippie.

[@InsiderCarpentry]

Thanks Roger, i am getting into the habit more and more of keeping them on.

[@MichaelCZUSA]

Great video as always, Spencer. The fact that you share your skills with others helps both, them and you, become better people. Now, let's talk about your on-site trim rack! It a different design than what you used previously....and of course, which I built for myself. This new one looks more compact. Thanks.

[@InsiderCarpentry]

Nope, its the same rack I've been using for years. Only rack I've ever built.

[@henryreinders3031]

Great tips. Been in the business a long time and learned a few tips with this video - thanks. As with most things, there is always something one can learn from other pros.

[@jackquigley7689]

That's a great tip and I'm sure it works well when it's all the same. I've almost never ruined a window or a door where the jamb was the sake all the way around. It's proud on one and inset on the other. The skill of the drywaller is critical.

[@mitchchabot4257]

Awesome tips. Been trimming for many years and I just learnt something new. Well not new…but the proper way to use it. I’ve been using a spacer block under trim for years but across the entire surface of the trim and not the front edge or the back edge. Thank you sir.

[@seanaball24]

This is a simple and incredible method. When I was a carpenter, I'd bash sheetrock, cut extensions for jambs, whatever was quick to get it done asap

[@brandongomez1842]

Man this is going to save me some time. No more compound cuts on the saw just you a depth gage thanks

[@patrickkelly8596]

Man what a great video! Your examples and applications really make it easy to understand what's going on. I really appreciate all of your hard work. GREAT JOB!!

[@peterfitzgerald2208]

I do a lot of renovation work so I run into jam issues almost every re-trim job. 25 years in carpentry but never seen this trick shows that you can learn something new everyday. Thanks Spencer!

[@joshbryant7363]

Really money tip! 20 year carpenter…never heard of this. Super slick.

[@norbgs07]

Amazing as always! I would have never thought about this. I probably would have used a router to make it flush to the wall 🤦🏽‍♂️ your technique seems easier and simpler with less mess

[@JuanSanchez-mk3ro]

I guess an old dog can learn a new trick….Spencer by far you have one of the best channels on KZbin. Keep up the good work!

[@joshrhoades7034]

That’s awesome that you shared that tip! I’ll be sure to pass it on too if the situation ever arises. Good on ya bro!