HBK On Being Afraid To Speak To Undertaker The Day After Montreal

In this clip from our live show with the two time WWE Hall Of Famer Shawn Michaels, HBK speaks out to Kenny McIntosh about Raw the day after the Montreal Screwjob, and reveals that the person he was most afraid to talk to was The Undertaker, Shawn also opens up about the feelings he had directly after and how he never set out to be the most hated man in wrestling. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!
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In this clip from our live show with the two time WWE Hall Of Famer Shawn Michaels, HBK speaks out about Raw the day after the Montreal Screwjob, and reveals that the person he was most afraid to talk to was The Undertaker, Shawn also opens up about the feelings he had directly after and how he never set out to be the most hated man in wrestling. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too! This video is proudly sponsored by Beer 52! Claim Your FREE Case Of Beer from the UK's No. 1 Craft Beer Club today at beer52.com/insidetheropes - Selected By Experts - Delivered To You!

[@vipset87]

more hbk clips please!

[@babarazamsucks]

Yes please! More HBK clips indeed!

[@brianmcbride1975]

I remember watching that show when I was a child. Loved it. But acouple decade's later, Mark knew!! Wow

[@brianmcbride1975]

And I would love to have a case of beer, but just like the lottery, I'll never win..

[@wrestlingcommunity]

Interesting interview!

[@extremeking425]

I would pay to see a Table for Three with Bret, Vince, and Shawn. Oh boy

[@flowern6499]

There's a Jim Ross interview with both Shawn and Bret you should check out

[@markwherley7303]

i would rather it be taker, shawn, and bret.

[@joee95]

Mark Wherley table for 3 funaki gilberg and Michael hayes

[@thec0mmand026]

Cornette, Russo and Kevin Dunn. That i would like to see lol

[@jermainemartinez551]

Vince McMahon won't do table for 3, hell he won't even do Dark Side of the Ring

[@leesadler7144]

Now tell me there's been a more important superstar backstage than Taker

[@VLE-Grimace]

Never was and never will be

[@Sirprincy2]

Andre is the only guy who comes close

[@wordlifejohn1122]

Nope,never will be.

[@joaquin17171717]

Its fake, who cares.

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

Lee Sadler- Andre & Hogan ruled over the backstage for decades before Taker came-in.

[@charvelgtrs]

He's having trouble talking about this situation because of the guilt he has. Its common to lose yourself when trying to talk about something you regret.

[@91mercedez]

IU mean shawn was told that same day to do his job the main person at fault was Vince but Bret should of known like your dumb to sit there and keep the title and drop it the next day knowing your leaving for wcw

[@luisb84]

Facts

[@MoparMadness93]

He talks this way about everything. First time seeing a Shawn Michaels interview?

[@1776Sledge]

Now he has guilt. He showed no remorse for a long time.

[@91mercedez]

@@1776Sledge key word long time ago you do dumb shit when you are young and as you get older you learn from those mistakes that's being human shawn is damn near 50 you think he thinks the same way he thought at 22 no

[@Barfbagdontsag]

I appreciate that the Undertaker was so well respected not because he was the biggest, not because he was the most popular, not because he was the best, not because he was the toughest, but because how he handled himself in his early days and gained the respect of those that came before him. Truly a tale of giving respect gets respect.

[@JacobT-cw2vp]

Wait... take the "not" out your sentences. Fixed it! It's the accumulative of all those things is why he was the man.

[@mauriziocorradi1598]

Undertaker was boss of the roster...both on the ring and outside of it

[@leftyshredder9289]

That's right!! 6,10 300 pound boss!

[@joshuatinyboyutaker9716]

Imagine if taker had just went- “I know” and walked off when he talked to Shawn.

[@mahaffer71]

Taker probably knew, Vince probably told him that shawn was told to lie to everyone

[@Kevinc2828]

got to read between the lines dude , Taker saying we'r cool is not the same as saying im ok with what happened and you as a person and what you did it was just Taker saying ok ur not getting a beating

[@honestone1894]

BONE CHILLING for Shawn lol

[@BishopWalker-qx3il]

🤣😂🤣😂

[@tonyuluva9537]

@@Kevinc2828 Loool🤣

[@NickMichalak]

Taker did an interview earlier this year saying he told Vince that he needed to be in the loop if stuff like this was going to happen again. He also said he couldn't pull rank on a guy like Bret who had been around the company much longer than he had been. I think Taker was more upset that he was left in the dark and didn't know what was going down.

[@NickMichalak]

@Domo Jones If Vince had just forced Bret and Shawn to sit down with him for a couple of hours and hash all of their sordid business out, then, this could've all been avoided.

[@adwaithratnakaran8017]

@@NickMichalak Apparently Bret just wanted to make sure that HBK was willing to put an opponent before him before dropping the belt to him. What Taker suggested that couldve been done was (after this shit went down) to have Bret drop the belt to him, who Bret respects, and then he lose it to Shawn down the line. But Vince was too worried that Bret might leave the WWF for WCW the next day with the title.

[@anthonymichalski9015]

@nick michalek - do you know where I can find that interview? Would love to hear even another side to this story, Bret, Shawn, JR, Vince & now Taker

[@claytron3000]

Adwaith Ratnakaran That last part is a lie told by everyone. Bischoff confirmed that Bret’s contract with Vince ended in December, so they weren’t allowed to debut him then. The other part is, Vince won a huge settlement in court after the Madusa debut on Nitro in December of 95 (showing up with the WWF women’s title on Nitro). There was no way that Bischoff would try to do that again.

[@Vaultzero]

It wasn’t his deal, he took it upon himself to include himself in other people’s deals. Kind of gay.

[@NoOne-xe2qf]

The Undertaker is easily the highest respected WWF/WWE Superstar Of All Time. I saw him live in the late 90s. When he walked past us going to ring, it's not all gimmick. The Dead Man has a "presence"about him..

[@Reaper-cm4jr]

Taking absolutely nothing from Undertaker, I can't agree that Undertaker was more highly regarded than Sting, Hulk Hogan or HHH. All were great.

[@neptis3300]

@@Reaper-cm4jr You know nothing about wrestling if you think Hogan was a respected figure backstage.

[@Reaper-cm4jr]

@@neptis3300 Well keep believing that. If that is so then why wasn't he fired years ago and why was he one of the highest paid?

[@SwordsmanRyan]

I wouldn't want the dead man mad at me, either.

[@akhilnarayan5392]

​​@@Reaper-cm4jr as long as Hogan sells the seat they couldn't fire him even if the boss has differences with him....Undertaker has been the lockeroom leader for very long..almost everybody know big of a egomaniac Hulk was...and he has this habit of lying.

[@andreas798]

Bret knew that after him Taker will be the locker room leader. And he was not wrong.

[@drillosophy1012]

Taker was the locker room leader while Bret was there.

[@figo7ronaldo]

@@drillosophy1012 I think they both were. In 97 Bret was the longest serving WWF wrestler, being there before Taker and Shawn. I doubt Taker had a say in anything that involved Bret.

[@andreas798]

@@drillosophy1012 yes he was. But Bret had been for a more longer time. He saw taker settling a dispute between two wrestlers, and he saw a leader in taker.

[@cfhar080591]

@Shannon Legg Okay....😐

[@andreas798]

@Randy Orton **chewing sounds** Yeah Taker didn't back out when something wrongs happened in the locker room.

[@MastaVo]

I still haven't forgiven Shawn for putting Marty through the barbershop window 29 years ago.

[@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e]

Marty jumped through to escape from Shawn in an act of cowardice. The science & math don't lie.

[@bonou22008]

@@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e Bobby Heenan logic 😂

[@TheNotbadphonedaddy]

Or how that all came about because Shawn lied to Vince about the cereal commercial

[@revelation5208]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[@misophone]

😭😭😭

[@meladgoat]

it wasn't just the montreal screwjob that made everyone hate him. it was everything he did, from the stuff with vader, to trying to bury the rock, not wanting to lose the belt to stone cold, overselling for hogan, it's how he was as a person. with that being said he is one of the best of all time, no debating his skill that's for sure.

[@joshuacain9845]

The Hogan thing was pretty funny though to see him get his comeuppance

[@SlimShadyCypher]

Nah I don’t blame him for the Hogan thing at all. I don’t think the match would’ve been nearly as memorable without the over selling. Plus Hogan was being a dick.

[@stevenward920]

Fucking sunny behind candidos back prob made slot of the boys hate him

[@dfree1442]

@@stevenward920 Bret had "Sunny Days" first, so... 🙄

[@pointyhat5799]

Agreeing with everything but the Hogan part. He was an immense dick.

[@philharper1170]

All I could think of during that interview is when RVD was impersonating HBK

[@philharper1170]

@giftofgab247lol u were charming, funny and witty🤪

[@jayfresco2118]

The MOST classic shit EVER

[@Kpopboba]

@@philharper1170 loooool

[@Holybeast1234]

the lazy eye really sold it hahaha

[@ShaunRogue90]

@@philharper1170 "c'mon dude I know you think I'm retarded"

[@farlonmuentes6004]

Well apparently he is more afraid of taker. He even shrugged off Orton's punt. That's how you know the mere presence of taker is more dangerous than a literal kick to the head.

[@GUnSNRoSeSrOcKzz]

What?

[@gzzzboi7368]

I don’t think he’s afraid of him but he has so much respect for him that he wants his approval.

[@secretc222]

lol

[@fc-kt2vs]

@@secoTheSonicFan taker was the leader in the dressing room. I've seen podcast and they said he cried like a baby

[@lalegende2746]

Who wouldn’t be scared of Taker?

[@krisshafranski6658]

Never has anyone ever talked so much but said NOTHING

[@barfo281]

You've never watched a Trump or Biden speech?

[@MrAte-uo7yo]

You've never heard of Tommy Wiseau?

[@1ex1uger-prank-calls]

Listen to a typical politician.

[@MrBxberto]

Dave Meltzer has entered the chat.

[@gorkskoal9315]

well uh their is uh you know what I meen? Mmmmm smell those deep fried braincells.

[@JohnSmith-hs2dk]

You don't often hear someone of HBK's level... the top of his chosen profession... admit that when he would get home and look in the mirror he didn't like who he saw despite the image he portrayed on TV. Very awesome to see such humility and honesty from him. Mistakes don't need to define us, we can be remembered for how we bounced back rather than how we fell and he is a great example of that.

[@namikstudios]

It makes you realise just how unhealthy the working environment in the WWF was at the time. Vince was getting his employees to legit turn on each other and was causing enormous damage to their mental health in the process.

[@elisefincher4478]

Why does Shawn Michaels always look like he's doing a long division problem in his head when he talks 🤔

[@hamanu666]

Getting his lies straight.

[@shak3166]

He's struggling

[@Squeakypickles619]

Hes either choosing his words carefully Or it's because hes trying really hard not to say "you know" Lol

[@xtremejakes]

omg 😆😭🤣

[@KlitKommander]

🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️😂😂

[@maverickrhodes9892]

"leave that image, that of junk and go home and just be Shawn Hickenbottom sitting in front of the mirror and thinking "damn dude, your the most hated guy in wrestling" The most poignant statement ive ever heard from a professional athlete. The Power of Self Reflection is really underestimated

[@StealthMarmot_]

As Shawn said, it's probably why Bret was able to move on eventually and be okay with Shawn. Knowing someone felt the consequences of their actions can help you empathize and forgive.

[@craggylotus]

anyone else lose their smile about halfway through this "answer"?

[@everychoicewemakeechoesete6017]

Yes, but then I laughed reading your comment.😂

[@davidgraham8299]

I did trying to make sense of what he's saying.

[@misoshiru6969]

I blew both of my quads after watching this interview.

[@jamesdorward4501]

Considered becoming 'born again' too🤣 "pls lord let him get to the point" 🤣

[@greencm7142]

Brain damage from being in a very grueling profession for over 30 years, added with years of drug addiction.

[@MilMaska]

"Ding. Ding. Undertaker started to unwrapped his fists, change, got in the car and left. Because Undertaker cared about the business and provide everything to go the right way" - Jim Cornette

[@nellsun2521]

*Cuckette

[@cesasilva8478]

@@nellsun2521 😂😂

[@iamthatguyfromslipknot1137]

Yeah I always liked that story too..

[@f.t.p.offroadforgingthepat2775]

Yep. Taker respected the business much that he made sure shawn drop the belt that night. Then said nothing to Bret about him not wanting to business b4 the screw job.. Hell brock fucked him up at WM because of that stupid BS he did at the UFC event..

[@misterundead425]

@@f.t.p.offroadforgingthepat2775 Chill mark, wrestling is scripted.

[@beenontopdraftpick]

“There were two pillars, everything was sort of built around” He’s referring to himself & Taker and he couldn’t be more right. The two most loyal superstars Vince has ever signed.

[@JLRules]

Shawn asked for his contract release in 1997 so he could join WCW.

[@lucasrodriguez550]

@@JLRules he did not

[@SuperDuperHappyTime]

@@lucasrodriguez550 He did. It was after Bret attacked him.

[@DeathOnDrugs]

Nah. Take is defn there but I found Hunter more loyal than HBK

[@chrisdranfield3828]

Shawn asked for a release to WCW multiple times. Vince even had to keep paying him through his “back injury” to avoid him going to WCW. Once WCW was out of business and Shawn was going to be released he was healthy enough for a comeback.

[@gal4xyislost]

Don't forget your Free Case of Beer that was on screen forever

[@manbearpig7359]

Wait, what , there's free beer? I missed it. Must have o only been looking at the top half of the screen. 😃

[@NapoIeoneBuonaparte]

@@manbearpig7359 0:43 enjoy

[@strangulator42]

I went to that website... the "case" of beer is actually 8 beers... and you can only get it if you're in the UK... what a bunch of horseshit... this is almost as awful as the Montreal Screwj...oh...

[@tylerlynn3617]

haaaA fooled me

[@andreas798]

Straight edge XD

[@anonymousone9067]

Most influential person in the locker room was and is: Taker, undertaker, deadman, american badass and oh yeah mark calloway.. the GOAT!

[@The__Deadman]

Why does everyone misspell his last name. It's Calaway not Calloway.

[@gorkskoal9315]

lol and despite a age difference, and neither able to stay on topic well. One with the you know that you know gets to you know a you anecdote that you know has you know start you know middle and you know end. The other is like listening to a drunk dad or uncle that are now about 80. And wondering what the hell are they talking about. I got throught about 1 minute decided to hardpass.

[@felixpham4934]

Mark tryna pretend to be a fan of The Undertaker but couldn't spell his name right smh.

[@Hunter_VanderMatthews]

You forgot: The Phenom, Booger Red, Mean Mark Callous, Texas Red, Big Evil, The Lord of Darkness, The Prince of Darkness, The Minister of Darkness, The Demon of Death Valley, The Big Dog of the Yard, The Master of Mind Games, The Man Who Cannot Be Destroyed, Wendy, The Red Devil, The Last Outlaw, The Gunslinger, The Punisher, The Commando, Cain the Undertaker, Dice Morgan, That Sizable Ham Hock.

[@Hunter_VanderMatthews]

@Sack Sucker Yes, it was indeed. Good ol' Rowdy Roddy Piper.

[@vagrantsnvandals]

Fun Fact: The night before Survivor Series '97, WWF held a house show at Cobo Hall in Detroit. My family and I were in attendance and the fact that Bret was leaving for WCW was no secret to wrestling fans in the know. The Hart Foundation was in the main event and near the start of that match the crowd was chanting, "Why Bret, why?" Hitman put one foot on the bottom rope, hoisted himself up just slightly, and rubbed his thumb to his index and middle fingers to indicate it was for the money. It was such a heel move and the crowd ate it up!

[@liboud22]

No doubt it was about the money, but Bret didn't know that the price for that money was going to be his career!

[@angryretailbanker5103]

Honestly, listening to this, I think that Shawn's injury during the Casket Match at the 1998 Royal Rumble couldn't have come at a better time (not that I wrestlers to be injured). Rather than performing with a locker room and in front of a crowd with festering resentment, he disappeared practically right after the Montreal Screwjob, stayed out of sight and out of mind for four years and let time heal the wound, and returned to an immense wave of love and goodwill.

[@shepja87]

I always have to wonder how Sean's first run would've been like if the ego wasn't causing so much trouble. His second run was some of, if not his best work and he put over a lot of guys, helped to build up and legitimise people like Orton and Cena, two of, if not the biggest stars of the last two decades, his work in ring was near flawless.

[@jasonrunion614]

Ive always said the exact same thing. Imagine how amazing that first run could have been if he had been clean and humble. He came back from what was supposed to be a career ending back injury and wrestled what may have been any single performers greatest stretch of matches basically while starting to be past his prime at the time. It sounds funny to say this but HBK is kinda still underrated by so many people

[@RyanAustinDean]

Sean? He Irish now? 😂

[@BEEyonced]

Trash Millenial Outing! 🗑️ 💩 1st Run was WM 1996 to I think it was SS 1996 - just half a year 2nd Run was SS 1997 to RR 1998 and he had one more (loosing) match as public retirement Bowout at WM 1998. He didn't do much those 2 1/2 months. 1996 was way better Championship Reign, yet 1995 was his stellar epitome year! Suffering turmoil going through the shows 1996/1997 with a total bore bullshit roster! I was real happy for Shawn following his development since early 1992 climbing to the very top as 'small guy' with no nepotism, but the early 90s will always be my favorites on him and in general! WWF was greatest stuff on TV back then. 1998 I was glad I could step finally easy away when Shawn was that bad injured, he had to quit very young. It was more than enough growing adolescent! Fuck 21st Trash Millenial! 🤢 🤮

[@NinjapowerMS]

Thought foley was the one who made orton legit with the hardcore match

[@dr.floridamanphd]

Triple H made Orton out of respect for his lineage. If Randy didn’t have a father and grandfather in the business he’d have never made it. His personality and shitty ring work never would’ve gotten him a tryout let alone the career he had if he wasn’t the son and grandson of the Ortons.

[@mvpretenders9565]

I've never understood how someone with so much charisma and can deliver such a good promo can be so horrible during interviews. Every time I hear an HBK interview, I feel like I need a WWE crowd shouting, "WHAT?"

[@MrPenfold4]

It may be the case that wrestlers feel more exposed when speaking candidly out of character. Their own personal character is on display when discussing personal stuff so they cant hide behind the gimmick. Shawn hickenbottom was speaking here. It's like when actors appear shy compared to their characters when they get up on stage to deliver their oscar speech.

[@DSedits4fun]

Shawn Michaels has said it himself that no one's career was built on more bullshit than his.

[@TheMetalAllfather]

Because that's *not* Shawn Michaels speaking. That's Michael Hickenbottom talking about the Shawn Michaels persona, and his work as a pro wrestler. Big difference.

[@chickonwings5482]

@@MrPenfold4 Great answer. You also got to remember he's speaking on a subject that he doesn't feel comfortable talking about. He regrets it and carries a lot of guilt. He seemed very nervous and shy to speak about it. Which is okay of course and completely understandable. It takes a lot of guts to admit your mistakes and discuss further details about the matter

[@pkt02002]

simple "GUILT"

[@michaelfox933]

HBK is a true legend in the wrestling game!

[@cocainecat2740]

For those of you who are incompetent and don’t see Shawn saying anything, lemme translate it for you without the “ya know”: • Shawn came into Raw the next day to see what taker thought • Taker said “we’re cool” • Shawn then explains his guilt about the screwjob • Shawn then talks about what got him and Bret closure was basic empathy That wasn’t so hard

[@mohammedhussain6749]

The title feels like click bait

[@cocainecat2740]

@@mohammedhussain6749 also correct

[@vincentiusjordan4474]

still not finding the opinion that he was afraid to talk to Taker. He just explaining the whole time how's the reception of the screwjob from taker and vince, and how he accepts the truth that he did the controversial stunt. So, either he didn't understand the context, or the video title was simply misleading clickbait.

[@zackyp6152]

If you watched this whole thing. Shawn screwed us all.

[@facesoffearbrewing1229]

Shawn is a rattlesnake. Taker is down to earth and very loyal and honest

[@alexanderstalung9447]

@@facesoffearbrewing1229 so is shawn, he was a asshole in the 90's, everybody know that includet shawn, he later changed, but to say he is not loyal and diddent care about the business is just not true,nobody stays in any business for 23 years if they dont care about what they do

[@yoj312]

But what he did..change the industry for good...without his beinga boss backstage there will no people who will create 5 star matches

[@nellsun2521]

@@yoj312 "5 star matches" lol! You sound like a Meltzer fan.

[@jermainehenry5588]

Where can you watch full interviews?

[@docj7631]

Taker's legend just keeps on growing.

[@mr.whisper3338]

Amazing how much respect Shawn had for Taker, despite Taker hating Shawn's guts in the 90's.

[@Creatorfragments]

We all disliked Shawn he was ultimately the Greatest Heel at the time.His in Ring is Legendary

[@timyac]

How crazy is it that Taker was already *the* guy in 1997? Like it would be one thing if he was a rookie then and a legend now, but he has been the leader in the back for a quarter century.

[@jakelang806]

no he hadnt

[@GanzoHasashi1911]

He just had the right mentality for the role. Keep everybody in check, clear up the air if anything was going on and treat everyone like family. Can’t say no to him when he’s looked out for everyone in all his time in the company

[@Cthulhoop]

@@jakelang806 No he hadn't what? Finish your sentence.

[@hattorihanzo2275]

Not crazy at all. Was there anyone with more continuous time with WWF aside from Shawn after Bret left? Everyone hated Shawn.

[@timyac]

@@hattorihanzo2275 I just mean he had that stature then and he is still around 23 years later. His longevity is insane.

[@WCWThunderRosa]

Fun fact: Shawn didn’t publicly admit he knew about Montreal until May 2002

[@slyx133]

Cuz if he told Bret he knew he would’ve got his ass beat there’s a video of them backstage

[@nellsun2521]

@@slyx133 Last thing he wanted was *another* chunk of hair missing. (Couldn't very well come down the aisle as the "boy toy" w/ 50% hair loss aged 30!)

[@WCWThunderRosa]

noah crumpler yeah they did an interview with him when he returned for the nWo angle that lasted a month and he was just like Im tired of lying to everyone I’ll give you the full story

[@macdofglasgow772]

Just realised I never actually knew when the transition occurred. Nice bit of trivia. I would consider that a fun fact.

[@rickylyon3846]

Yup! First thing Shawn told Vince and the WWE office when he came back in 2002 was: Oh! By the way, I now believe in God and believe I should come clean about Montreal. I'm not lying about this anymore.

[@Metalmachine18]

So interesting how much respect Taker commanded even then, only 7 years being at WWE and he was the locker room king already

[@etienneismaelrodriguez7071]

I think Vince anointed him!

[@namikstudios]

It's because there was a vacuum of leadership. No real big stars. Taker just walked in and became the de facto leader by default.

[@rockerseven]

It's amazing when you hear inside stories and you realize how much of a General/moderator/de facto leader in the locker room. Almost like you could even argue with the Boss (Vince), but the one person you never disrespect or argue against is Taker.

[@kristirollins983]

Love heart break kid and under taker are two amazing legends

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

5 minutes of "I wasn't born an a-hole, I became one."

[@wrestlingisbullshit]

Not many are born, they fit the mold over time 😂

[@xSuperiorManx]

Also, five minutes of "y'know".

[@wrestlingisbullshit]

@TheWhiteWhale not all the time. I used to genuinely care about others more than myself. Nowadays I realized that that shit gets you nowhere

[@mr.a5117]

this is true for almost any industry its a dog eat dog world, Prison, School, Jobs they all have a structure where when you're first introduce you dont know the rules then your peers beat them into you

[@rawbee8932]

@@wrestlingisbullshit lol. Ain't that the story of my life. And I still am doing the same shit

[@idkmynametho8391]

For all of you that don't understand him, his overall point is he only cared about Takers opinion, somehow Vince got Taker to at least not beat up Shawn, and Shawn and Bret reconciled once they both humbled themselves enough to understand the other perspective which from Shawn Michaels was him coming to the realization that everyone hated him. Dude is inarticulate but he isn't that hard to understand people.

[@ADAMdinho1]

Shawn "You Know" Michaels

[@lukelaser5397]

Lolololol

[@banesbox]

This one clip changes my opinion of Shawn. Much respect for him to be so honest.

[@shoresy6927]

Its amazing the HBK of the 90s vs now. Just a whole different person. He has the voice of the undertaker now

[@coachcarter8238]

To this day, I still don't blame Shawn nearly as much as I blame Vince. This was all Vince's doing. Shawn was doing what he was told to do, and because he did what Vince wanted him to do, he became the most hated man in the business. Yeah, he had a bad reputation (and deservedly so), but this really put a target on his back when it didn't have to. On another token, Bret brought this on himself, too.

[@gorsching]

You're right. Brett shoulda left the WWE like an business either quiting before the match or losing the match to give Michael's a shove that he was better. Could been a nice shoot going to wcw wanting what he just lost, which is kinda what happened anyway. I'll never blame Shawn cuz had he said Vince would said ok well you just got injured and someone else will do what I pay them to, dismissed.

[@milotin2755]

Vince had no choice he couldn't risk Brett Hart showing up on nitro and desecrating the WWF title, Brett did not want to do business so business was done for him

[@milotin2755]

@Raul Ramirez it's a made up tv show mate, when you are an employee you do what your told. None of this entitled bullshit

[@davidkosiba624]

@Raul Ramirez Bret as great as he was he had problems with putting over people as well as Shawn had , but no matter what you do if Vince want you to do something then you will do it or you can leave , this is exactly what would have happened if Vince told Bret that he either drop the belt or he can go , but it would seriously hurt the reputation of WWF and their world title at that time so business wise it had to be done cause at those times WWF was losing hard to WcW , I agree that it was a shitty move but I have to say that Bret and Vince was the wrong one here , Shawn did what he was asked , if he said no then they would have asked someone else probably, Bret played a big part in this screwjob as well as Vince

[@chieflsah2474]

vince new shawn would have loved to one up bret and humiliate him

[@ponyboycurtis3795]

I still remember The Takers debut at that daytime Wrestle mania in the 80"s and I remember being literally scared of him as a young kid.. But I don't blame HBK for being scared of him as he is 6ft 9inch and 320lbs and a total legend.

[@herbjergens6350]

Very well said Shawn!!

[@iambornjustright]

gotta respect this transparency !

[@KarlSchoenefeld4]

I love the Heartbreak Kid, the wrestler, but I've been listening to Shawn Michaels interviews recently, and as a person, regardless of the subject or whether or not he's actually telling the truth, the guy just sounds like bullshit. Idk it's weird. It's like he's still lying even if he isn't actually lying.

[@luckycarter536]

Same thing here..lol. I was just tellin myself, "that's one of my favorites to watch since childhood. Still, he always gimme a vibe that he's bullshittin"

[@trevorrovert3103]

That’s what years of coke and getting your ass beat for decades can do. Guy can barely speak.

[@marcleon1513]

@@trevorrovert3103 Don't forget from his of screaming from when he was bending over for Vince & Pat Patterson.

[@iamthatguyfromslipknot1137]

Yeah he is full of it..lol..

[@trevorrovert3103]

Sonic No way. A lot of these guys can talk their asses off. Rock, Jericho, Cena, Hogan, HHH, Austin, etc, were allowed to give promos without a script.

[@kingjaydesiner443]

You ever think that 2020 Shawn kinda sounds like undertaker

[@fireblade2681]

Almost all wrestlers have that low raspy voice. It's one of the effects of the steroids that they take.

[@karnige5804]

hbk pissed off a lot of people back in the day. trying to bury the rock.....

[@nicholassealy251]

And look where the rock is and look at Shawn Michaels hate gets you no where

[@okreallynow6623]

@@nicholassealy251 yeah their both legends

[@aazmeerahmed1039]

@@okreallynow6623 Rock is light years ahead of Michaels

[@okreallynow6623]

@@aazmeerahmed1039 They are both well known and rich.

[@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225]

@Izaan ur rehman The Rock is waaaaaay more known and richer than HBK, lol. Rock certainly made a bigger impact.

[@diontaedaughtry974]

Shawn and Bret epic feud, Stone Cold ready for the takeover, everything that would make the Attitude era is being set in place. Witnessing this still gives me the best feeling in the world.

[@Ajs_1988]

I feel so sorry for the 13 - 18 year old of today, they dont know what they missed out on

[@namikstudios]

@@Ajs_1988 I feel so sorry for those of any age who were watching this garbage from the WWF back then. They were the ones who truly missed out on wrestling's greatest era - the Nitro era.

[@Ajs_1988]

@@namikstudios 🤣 Good one

[@Maniac_Matt]

Damn that was deep. Props to HBK. Well said..

[@soulofanerd9364]

Between this story and the HBK vs Austin Wrestlemania story where Taker was supposedly ready to "make sure" Shawn did the job for Austin, I gotta say Taker and Shawn have a fascinating dynamic between them. Throw in they had the first Hell in a Cell match and Shawn had the career sidelining injury in a casket match with Taker THEN Taker is the retirement match for Shawn. Lotta history between these guys.

[@Commander76]

I love me some HBK, but I can't believe a word he says. He's definitely "that" guy.

[@Costa4K]

''god as my witness, my hands are clean on this one''

[@rhombo323]

I seen that video like 5 minutes ago

[@lasombradelaluz8802]

I saw that footage. Bret: Did you know about it Shawn? Shawn:^^

[@mikecummings88]

🤣🤣

[@blastedcontroller]

What video

[@TylerDurden9LB]

@@blastedcontroller Brett had a documentary crew following him for a documentary called 'Wrestling with Shadows' for whole thing. And for the people who believe the screwjob was a work, having a camera crew shooting all-access behind the scenes leading up to and during a salacious bombshell, and then signing of on its release, doesn't help to change your mind. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmTai5t3athmoas

[@CoolTy23]

Get Vince, Shawn & Bret at a round table asap

[@TB-my4cu]

When Shawn talks, he lies.

[@brenegadde1278]

Ya know what I mean 😂😂😂,

[@metisonvic9755]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@papennypincher7287]

I like who Shawn has become. I hated him back in the day. And to his credit, that was his job. He was one of the best heels of all time. And I’ll NEVER say he wasn’t a great wrestler cuz even when I hated him I had to admit he was amazing in the ring. God bless him!!!

[@user-br9ov7qf1u]

love the voice of shawn michaels

[@Undertakerlover1306]

All I hear from Shawn is “you know” and he did know.

[@samuelstevens248]

The fact that undertaker was classed as a pillar 23 years before he retired says it all really

[@thaofficialdesh7261]

i’m so happy for shawn that he was able to find some kind of solice and peace post wrestling because jesus christ the man had a target the size of manhattan on his back

[@moneyatslander]

You still did it Shawn

[@MikeoxlongXL]

Why does everyone still thinks he's lying about this. He's literally came clean about being apart of it hundreds of times. Why would he need to lie about anything else unless it was a work all along

[@theprinceofdarkness3250]

Anybody would be afraid to speak to The Takerunder when he's pissed at you.

[@cjpockets]

Ignore what I’m about to say but he met the actual definition of undertaker.

[@MylesW304]

@Ignore what I’m about to say but he was a professional his entire career. Until he did what he did 🤷‍♂️

[@Waleedp1k]

@@MylesW304 stfu just stop... He is & always be a professional Legend...

[@bryonhenny1936]

This my favorite wrestler hands down

[@deadaccount7520]

Would never have guessed that has become what it is. Don't know how you would figure it out. But that has to be the most discussed wrestling topic ever

[@David.M._1979]

What happened in Montreal was all Vince fault. He could of taken the belt off Bret in Sept or Oct. To Taker, Kane or Shamrock. But didn't. Shawn and Bret's match would of been a final confrontation match. I think Vince wanted this to happen.

[@eddiesanchez551]

If you go to a guy and say I can't afford to pay you what I promised. The very next words out of your mouth should be I need my belt back

[@justmarcus33]

But why is it "bad" if other wrestlers refuse to lose...but its "ok" for Bret to refuse to lose? He was leaving the company anyway, if WWE wanted a big moment where HBK (who was the person they were building on for the future) won and got that rub and went on to carry the company while Bret went to WCW... why is it "ok" for Bret to decide he's too good for that? It's shitty when hogan and them decide they are going to set their terms never let anyone beat them unless they say so, it was shity when Bret did it. Why should WWE book their title around Bret Harts feelings?

[@David.M._1979]

Well Shawn did it to Vader. Refusing to drop the title at SummerSlam. Also refusing to lose the belt at Wrestlemania to Tatanka. So Shawn should never complain about people refusing to do jobs. Hogan is the only one to forcefully have Michaels do a job.

[@JohnnyLouis1145]

@@justmarcus33 But Shawn also refused to put Bret over, which is why Bret refused to lose to him.

[@justmarcus33]

@@JohnnyLouis1145 but the screw job was about the title... to me, the person most at fault for what happened that night is Bret hart - period. As a pro wrestler if you are leaving a company, drop the belt move on... leave whatever hard feelings you have behind, go on enjoy your career, but throwing a tanturm on your way out the door? refusing to drop the belt to who the company wanted you to? If any other wrestler did that today they've be called all kinds of names because no matter what you feel someone else did wrong - respecting the title, the industry and whatnot is paramount. Sasha Banks and Alexa Bliss don't like each other, but could you imagine if Sasha said "i refuse to lose to Alexa" or visa versa?

[@Edison720]

Can we get past this, it's been more than 20 years, sure Bret and Shawn are tired of being defined by it.

[@Avatar1977]

They both keep getting bookings because of it, they will be fine.

[@jakelang806]

people need to stop bringing it up then

[@GanzoHasashi1911]

As long as the whole thing’s behind them and the interviewers look at other aspects of their careers, let them speak about it.

[@kagemaru259]

I seriously don't think Bret will ever truly and fully get over it. Hell, it even contributed to his divorce because his wife at the time snapped at him about it.

[@JoshLavian]

@@kagemaru259 I'm pretty sure him fucking ring rats behind his wife's back for years and years had something to do with it -- a hell of a lot more than Montreal

[@shawnlannigan1798]

Holy s*** ... That would be absolutely amazing I never even thought of that

[@jeremylouis1479]

Shawn Michaels is my all time favorite wrestler of all time

[@jamesoncass4867]

All time if all time huh? Nice post, dummy.

[@chetmartin8930]

Shawn took the job. He knew that the Locker room was going to turn, but he created the situation when he told Bret that he wouldn’t put him over the same way Bret would be doing for him. He created the crap storm. Vince used him to create the villain that would be turning the title over to Stone Cold Steve Austin. He was just a holder for that moment

[@chieflsah2474]

vince manipulated everyone to his favour .. he’s a ruthless promoter

[@tonywilt4179]

I remember Macho Man talking about generals in the locker room and he clearly said it's Taker.

[@sarabjitbaidwan9658]

HBK n Undertaker r best of all time

[@johntuttle9012]

Shawn and Marty the Rockers were reportedly to have gave a woman a date rape drug and assaulted her but yet he is in HOF what a crock of shit should be removed from HOF

[@luvmenow33]

Its true tho. That's one thing that never really gets mentioned because of the way it's played off in character. I'm sure he would have much perfered brett losing to someone else and then him beating that person to avoid the heat. However , he may not have cared about the heat due to his closeness with Vince but it has to suck having the entire locker room hate and not trust you if you're susposed to be family and run the road 330 days a year.

[@brosephmcbrosephson2626]

Shawns eyes resemble how he's been throughout his whole career. Utterly bent. He only ever looked out for himself, he didn't care about anyone else. That being said, it worked for him and he created a hell of a career for himself.

[@jvac1129]

Same can be said about Hogan.

[@premium_chrome]

That’s just how the biz was back then. It was a dog eat dog world back then.

[@namikstudios]

Isn't capitalism grand? "Oh he may have been totally bent but hey it worked out for him". Or how about "oh Billionaire Vince may have screwed him over and totally exposed the horrific working environment at his company in the process, but it worked out for him alright." (I'm not having a go at you by the way just making a general point)

[@JWIZ92698]

He says "Ya know" more than anyone I've ever heard. I think at one point in one sentence he said it 4 times.

[@audiotyresup]

You know Shawn, when people ask a question about something they don't know about, they don't know the answer.

[@ek1046]

i dont think kids of today, that werent alive when this all went down... can really understand just how incredible these interviews are. For decades we wanted to hear their takes but never thought we would. I never in a million years expected fucking taker doing podcasts and shit, its so awesome. But its normal for active wrestlers today so its hard to appreciate the same i think.

[@filmcam7007]

2:17 the look all of us have as we try to understand what he's saying

[@namikstudios]

He's spinning because he feels bad about the fact that his boss got him to betray a coworker. Such an unhealthy working environment.

[@willglenn-bl9gm]

I aspire to turn my life around like Shawn did one day

[@marshalleriksen1056]

Just dont fuck it up as Bad in the first place ;-)

[@primegallow22]

Shawn is absolutely my favorite wrestler, of all time. But he is so damn scatter brained in real interviews. he cannot focus on one thing.

[@Taishawn24.7]

It literally stresses me out to hear him try and complete sentences

[@JB-xh5mc]

That's what happens when you constantly lie.

[@xemption]

"One of my favorites as well but I swear he always in interviews says "and again..." about 39 times or more every time he does one lol

[@rjgonzalez14]

We went “full gear “ I see what you did there Shawn

[@ericgilbert56]

And then there's Montreal... I think that city secretly loves HBK❤️!

[@Mark-99999]

The best of all time!!!

[@Zepwik]

Y'know cause it was like... y-y'know, "bleeeeh!" y'know what I mean? And like... y'know, we got all the... y'know stuff and whatever and, y'know, that sorta happened. Y'know? I mean YOU KNOOOOW.

[@dwoodstwin]

Nailed it

[@ILikeBongos]

Is there anywhere to watch the complete shows?

[@zlinedavid]

2:30 Damn if that isn’t Taker. No speeches, no lessons, no questions. The most controversial situation of that era and it’s…”We’re cool”. And done.

[@cappy2282]

Shawn the 🐐. Shawn's face when Bret spits in Vince face still makes me laugh

[@timothyosullivan222]

From all the interviews I've seen, it's clear that Taker had the respect of the majority backstage and was certainly an authority figure

[@Ethan-Entah]

At no point does he even imply that he was afraid to talk to taker. He just wanted to know what he thought.

[@martyn6692]

Bad clickbait. Immediately reported it as misleading and turned them off as a recommendation. Meltzer must run the show here.

[@proudtobeageordie9490]

*he needed to know where he (taker) was at on this......

[@wgoreaper9989]

Shawn. My favorite wrestler. The reason I got into watching it. Sweet chin music. Its all business bruh. I get it

[@ELH10622]

He feels bad about it. Hence all the nervous ticks

[@johnmorgan8232]

I think he was overwhelmed with the magnitude of reaction after the event, but going in to the Montreal, yeah, he was enjoying it, and sadistically so. Beating Bret in Canada for the title with his own (submission) move on the fast count, that would make Ric Flair sick.

[@seacbareid1985]

Watching this reminds me of the scene in the biopic Cobb. Ty Cobb was one of the greatest baseball players ever..if not the greatest. On and off the field, though, he was known as a mean, rotten, cold hearted S.O.B. Keep in mind the guy was born in the 1880's, so by the time of the inaugural year of the Baseball HOF, he was included. Unanamiously voted in and invited to the celebrations. After the dinner, there was a party with the old players and managers and Cobb wanted to join but wasnt let in. HBK reminds me of that. Sure hes on the list as one of the best ever, but now, he's older, and balding, and his eyes crossed over (not poking fun, just pointing out that he was always vain about his looks) and all the ppl he stepped on, or buried or kept down and he wants to be "one of the boys", but no one wants him around. Same with Nash. Yeah, an apology goes a long way, but when youre told for 20 years that youre a jerk and say only "I know", youre not going to be believed when you say that NOW you know you shouldnt have been.

[@davemcculloch6922]

Taker was andrea the giant of his Era respect

[@namikstudios]

No, the Giant (aka Big Show) was the Andre the Giant of his era.

[@davemcculloch6922]

@@namikstudios agree to disagree Paul white based off size sure closest you’ll get but as far as command in the ring respect level not saying he’s not respected for his body of work but taker all day long had that respect level in the locker room

[@facethebeast3826]

.... ive worked around dementia patients for years... and they way they respons was exactly like this..

[@HakunaMatata_TTP]

Possibly due to heavy drug use

[@eduardopina7786]

I love Shawn, but I understood nothing he said :v

[@MEEPxx]

“You know what I mean?”

[@swapnilthorat4648]

There will not be another such a great locker room leader and great ambassador of professional wrestling like Mark Caloway aka Undertaker.

[@user-nf6hm2bl3p]

Looking through these comments it's amazing to me how many of us all over the world all happened to see that barbershop promo all within the same week and we still discuss it with absolute strangers online every day. Wrestling truly connects ppl.🙏❤️💯

[@andersonhbk]

Be real... Bret Hart would have never carried WWE into the attitude era like HBK and Austin.

[@rickyhurtado]

Bret struck the match that kicked off the Attitude Era, WrestleMania 13. Looking back, I agree with you however.

[@thelost3rdroundofsurf407]

Shawn Missed majority of the attitude era tho. Yes that whole stable-thon time from 97-98 He was there but after the lost to Austin He was basically gone.

[@tomsc8024]

Bret got it all started. He made Stone Cold, HBK and the Mr McMahon character

[@johnathanhart2999]

@@tomsc8024 HBK is really an after though in the whole situation. Didnt realize it before but Bret might have the biggest hand in the attitude era and he wasnt even around in wwf for it lol. He made the Mr mc character the bad guy and stuck a rocket up Austin's ass to get him to the top. If one of those two things dont happen the attitude era never happens and WWF could damn well be out of business.

[@andersonhbk]

@Raul Ramirez It looks like you started watching wrestling when stone cold went over. HBK was there carrying the show years before Austin. I will agree though that Austin propelled WWE to heights that HBK couldn't.